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Subject: Gurupie 20: 2023-24 Preseason Discussion


  Posted by: Bean - [12552510] Mon, Sep 11, 2023, 15:36

Constitution

I Site / Stat Source / League Fees

All game, roster and scoring rules will be governed by Yahoo. There is no fee for using Yahoo.

II Draft
The Supplemental Draft consists of a slow draft and held on the Draftime.com website. Time limits will be three hours for individual picks and 8 hours cumulative clock. You may draft until your picks run out or you have reached twelve (12) players. The clock will be stopped from midnight to 8 AM ET but picks may be made during that time. If you time out, you will be skipped and may select at any time. If you have been skipped and have not made up that pick and it becomes your turn again, you will be skipped for that pick as well. If you leave a Q and that person is available to post your pick, you will not be charged any time on your cumulative clock.

The draft order will be reverse of last year's regular season finish and it will NOT snake. Only players currently in the NBA database are eligible to be drafted. Waivers Priority will begin in the same order as the basic draft order (lottery excluded). Please note: The bottom 14 teams will be in the lottery similar to the actual NBA draft. Top three picks for next year will be selected via lottery. 4th-14th picks will be selected based on inverse order of standings.

III League Settings:
Draft Type: Offline Draft and E-mail draft
Max Teams: 20
Scoring Type: Rotisserie
Max Moves: No maximum
Max Trades: No maximum
Trade Review: League Votes (7 needed to veto)
Post Draft Players: Follow Waiver Rules
Max Games Played: 720 (enforced by position)
Roster Positions: G, G, F, F, C, Util, Util, Util, BN, BN, BN, BN, IL (a 2nd IL slot will be added for the 2023-24 season and beyond)
Stat Categories: FG%, FT%, 3PTM, PTS, OREB, REB, AST, ST, BLK

IV Minimum Games Played / Penalties
A team must accumulate a minimum of 656 GP (82 GP/pos) over the course of a season. For each 8 games of shortfall (1 GP/pos), a team is assigned one demerit. Demerits will be integer values only. Thus, a team with 1-8 games of shortfall will receive one demerit, 9-16 will receive 2 demerits, etc.

If a team finishes in the money for prize pool purposes (ranked 1-6), then demerits will be ignored.

For lottery teams, the following penalties will be applied to every pick in the next year's supplement draft:

If a team accumulates more than 10 demerits, then it will be removed from the lottery and assigned the 14th pick in all rounds (i.e., behind all lottery teams, but ahead of any prize pool teams.)

For teams with less than 10 demerits, that team is pushed forward one place in the supplemental draft rankings for each demerit. For example, if a team finishes in last place (20th) and has 5 demerits, then that team will be treated in the draft rankings as though it finished in 15th place (and the teams actually finishing in places 16-20 will each move down one place.)

If more than one lottery team has a demerit, then the lottery rankings will be successively applied starting with the worst finisher and then moving up to the next worst finisher, etc.

Note: While the maximum number of games is measured on a GP/pos (enforced by the Yahoo site), the minimum number of games is NOT. For minimum games, all measurements are based on total games played without regard for position.

V Trades
All trades during the season must be submitted via the website's offer trade feature to the league for review. If there is a draft pick it needs to be posted in our thread at rotoguru.com and needs to be confirmed by both parties. You might want to rationalize your trade as it takes just 7 members to reject the trade. You have one day to reject it so please check the site at LEAST once per day (many will have the email feature that emails all accepted trades). Remember with a Keeper league there may be draft picks involved so take the time to check those before rejecting it. Please only reject a trade based on the trade and not the teams involved. A trade by its very nature should help both teams either now, the future or both. All off-season/preseason trades will be governed by a commish.

VI Keepers
Returning owners will have a deadline to declare what players from their team they wish to keep. Each owner may keep up to 6.

You may keep less than six. You may trade keepers after you have declared, but you may not go over six until all 20 teams have officially declared at the Keeper deadline. At that point you may go up to 12 players.

If you keep less than six, the only way you can add a sixth keeper is via trade. You may not drop a player until after the draft is complete.

If you do not name your Keepers by the deadline, the commish(s) will choose those for you and they will be final. If you post your Keepers after the deadline but before the commish posts, your Keepers will be honored. Typically, the commish(s) will start figuring out uncommitted Keepers as soon as the deadline has passed.

All un-kept players will go into the draft. A player MUST be in the NBA database in order to be kept.

The only off-season transactions that will be allowed are trades. No free agents may be picked up after the end of the season. Trades of a player for a draft pick are allowed.

VII Prizes
A fine plaque will be engraved and shipped to the winner courtesy of the previous year's winner. The trophy will be yours to proudly display with your other cherished mementos for 1 year. It will be the winner's responsibility to engrave it and ship it to the winner. There will be an added nominal fee to help cover expenses related to the engraving and shipping of the plaque.

A separate cash prize pool has also been established. It is strictly voluntary. Only those who participate will be eligible for this prize. $15 USD entry must be paid by the season opener. The exact method of prize distribution will vary from year to year depending on participation. We focus payouts so it will NOT be winner take all. Six owners will have a chance to win something. Prize pool funds are due by Opening Night.

If any of the non-participants qualify, the prizes will be reallocated by the commissioners. Managers will move up payout position(s) and any remaining funds will go into the trophy fund.

Treasurer will announce payouts and non-participants.

VIII Owners
As commissioners, we reserve the right NOT to extend an invitation to or remove any owner for any reason. Primary reason for being excluded would be abusive behavior (beyond friendly trash talk, harassment), purposeful rules violations (i.e. colluding on a trade), inactivity (i.e. leaving injured players in as starters repeatedly), unresponsive to other owners or commish(s), missing deadlines (i.e. keepers, draft picks, etc.). If an owner is NOT invited back next year. A new owner will be recruited to take over the vacated team in its exact state.

IX 2023 Draft Pick Trades:
# YYYY-MM-DD Sends-Rd For-Rd #Thread
01 2022-10-06 DaveR-1 WWCBD-4 #55 pre-season
02 2022-12-08 GO-1 RMoney-6 #Debated
03 2022-12-17 GO-2 PermDude-6 #none
04 2023-01-08 WG-1 Tosh-6 #41
05 2023-01-12 WG-4 KnicksFan-6 #39
06 2023-01-20 ttucowboy-2 WWBCD-6 #49
07 2023-01-24 WG-5 Bean-6 #none
08 2023-01-29 RSF-1&2 PhillyBusters-3&4 #72
09 2023-02-12 WG-2 Duff-5 #89
10 2023-02-13 Tree-2 BBtheBall-6 #88
11 2023-02-25 Duff-2(from ttucowboy) Tree-6 #none
12 2023-03-04 WG-3 Fosten-6 #93

X League Champions:
2003 Peter N
2004 A Perfect 10
2005 Twarpy
2006 RecycledSpinalFluid
2007 beastiemiked
2008 beastiemiked
2009 Ref
2010 Pete N.
2011 Pacers Rule
2012 beastiemiked
2013 Great One
2014 WG
2015 Species
2016 Pete N.
2017 RecycledSpinalFluid
2018 RecycledSpinalFluid
2019 RecycledSpinalFluid
2020 RecycledSpinalFluid
2021 WG
2022 skinneej
2023 skineej
 
1Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Mon, Sep 11, 2023, 15:49
STANDINGS

PL PTS TEAM

01 143.0 Skinnee J's
02 133.0 RSF's Midwest All-Stars
03 131.5 Wazaaap Guy
04 129.0 Bean's Buckeyes
05 125.5 #DemBoyz Pour 1 out for Jamin
06 118.0 GO Sixers
07 113.0 SANFORDORS
08 112.0 Munson Mobsters
09 105.5 Philly Busters
10 097.0 Spida
11 089.0 BB the Ball
12 088.0 youngroman's Luschen
13 086.0 KnicksFan
14 083.0 Air Tosh
15 073.5 Roto Guru20
16 070.0 ttucowboy
17 068.0 PT's Pleasant Team
18 056.0 Fred's Team
19 037.0 Weekend Over
20 032.0 WWCBD
 
2Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Mon, Sep 11, 2023, 15:56
Here is a link to Draft Matrix 2023. It reflects standings, lottery results, and pick trades through the end of last season. Let me know if you see any issues.
 
3Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Mon, Sep 11, 2023, 16:19
PROPOSED SCHEDULE

FRI 06 OCT Team Owners Locked
FRI 13 OCT 11:59 PM EDT Keeper Deadline
SUN 15 OCT Draft Turned ON
MON 16 OCT Clock Turned ON
TUE 24 OCT Regular Season Starts
 
4Fosten
      ID: 398201115
      Mon, Sep 11, 2023, 16:24
In!
 
5Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Mon, Sep 11, 2023, 16:24
I've renewed the Yahoo League and will renew at Draft Time when basketball becomes available. I need ALL previous owners to let me know if they are returning. Please do not assume that if you are in Yahoo, I know your plan...SOUND OFF HERE.
 
6Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Mon, Sep 11, 2023, 16:25
I am IN.
 
7WG
      ID: 89402220
      Mon, Sep 11, 2023, 16:28
In
 
8WWCBD
      ID: 37841411
      Mon, Sep 11, 2023, 16:32
In
 
9R-Money
      ID: 32122023
      Mon, Sep 11, 2023, 16:43
In
 
10KnicksFan
      ID: 29851116
      Mon, Sep 11, 2023, 17:05
I’m in
 
11GO
      ID: 288332716
      Mon, Sep 11, 2023, 17:22
I'm in
 
12BB the Ball
      ID: 118181117
      Mon, Sep 11, 2023, 18:18
I'm in!!
 
13ttucowboy
      ID: 28191121
      Mon, Sep 11, 2023, 22:19
In
 
14youngroman
      ID: 515013
      Tue, Sep 12, 2023, 04:49
I am in
 
15Tosh
      Dude
      ID: 057721710
      Tue, Sep 12, 2023, 13:55
In
 
16Philly Busters
      ID: 311122313
      Tue, Sep 12, 2023, 14:09
I'm in
 
17Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Thu, Sep 14, 2023, 11:48
12/20 returning. Still waiting to hear from:

01 Skinnee J's
02 RSF's Midwest All-Stars
05 #DemBoyz Pour 1 out for Jamin
07 SANFORDORS
10 Spida
15 Roto Guru20
17 PT's Pleasant Team
18 Fred's Team

Ping them if you know them
 
18artofmonk
      ID: 23651310
      Thu, Sep 14, 2023, 14:37
aka spida is in.
 
19artofmonk
      ID: 23651310
      Thu, Sep 14, 2023, 14:54
I am looking trade one or two of these players:
Bradley Beal
Keldon Johnson
Brandon Ingram
I need REB.
 
20RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 45103890
      Thu, Sep 14, 2023, 22:35
In
 
21Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Fri, Sep 15, 2023, 22:06
14/20 returning. Still waiting to hear from:

01 Skinnee J's
05 #DemBoyz Pour 1 out for Jamin
07 SANFORDORS
15 Roto Guru20
17 PT's Pleasant Team
18 Fred's Team

Ping them if you know them
 
22Skinneej
      ID: 428201521
      Fri, Sep 15, 2023, 22:22
IN
 
23Guru
      ID: 556321410
      Sat, Sep 16, 2023, 08:41
In.
 
24Tree
      ID: 35831168
      Sat, Sep 16, 2023, 09:31
in, but mostly off this site.

I'd like to suggest we join many other leagues in updating to a place like Discord, which makes for more active leagues in both general conversation and trade activity.
 
25Perm Dude
      ID: 8755259
      Sat, Sep 16, 2023, 10:13
In
 
26 Dave R
      SuperDude
      ID: 3010361110
      Sat, Sep 16, 2023, 22:56
I'll be in
 
28Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Sun, Sep 17, 2023, 18:32
19/20 returning.

Twolves (PT's Pleasant team) is only one who hasn't checked in yet. If you know him, please tell him that we are waiting for him.

Meanwhile, if you know someone who is interested in taking over his team, let me know. I'll give him another week to check in, before replacing him.
 
29twolves
      ID: 37322512
      Sun, Sep 17, 2023, 21:15
I am in.
sorry about late reply--been on vacation

twolves
 
30Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Sun, Sep 17, 2023, 22:02
OK, looks like we have everyone returning this year. So I will lock the teams at Yahoo. Here is the remaining schedule:

FRI 13 OCT 11:59 PM EDT Keeper Deadline
SUN 15 OCT Draft Turned ON
MON 16 OCT Clock Turned ON
TUE 24 OCT Regular Season Starts

Here is a link to Draft Matrix 2023. It reflects standings, lottery results, and pick trades through the end of last season. Let me know if you see any issues.

I'll set up a keeper declaration thread before the end of September. Let the dealing begin.
 
31twolves
      ID: 37322512
      Mon, Sep 18, 2023, 20:12
Am I reading the rules right that after 6 keepers are set for everyone that you could add up to 6 more keepers from your squad before the draft (ie would not be available in draft)?? You would have potentially up to 12 players from last year?? If that is the case, it that something new as I have never done that before although it would have been nice to do.

twolves
 
32Philly Busters
      ID: 311122313
      Mon, Sep 18, 2023, 23:39
According to the Set Keeper page on the league website:

"Your commissioner has set Monday, October 16, 2023, as your league's deadline for declaring your keepers. You can make and edit your selections until 11:59pm PT on Sunday, October 15, 2023."

Should be Oct 14.
 
33Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Tue, Sep 19, 2023, 09:06
<31> We have six keepers, not sure where you are reading otherwise.

<32> We will have a keeper declaration thread. Though you may find it useful to set your keepers at Yahoo, I ignore those.
 
34WWCBD
      ID: 37841411
      Tue, Sep 19, 2023, 12:08
<33> I think he is referring to this sentence:

"You may keep less than six. You may trade keepers after you have declared, but you may not go over six until all 20 teams have officially declared at the Keeper deadline. AT THAT POINT YOU MAY GO UP TO 12 PLAYERS."

^ I assume this is in regards to multi-player trades before the season begins after keepers are declared.
 
35Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Tue, Sep 19, 2023, 13:34
<34><31> Agreed, we allow to trade FOR someone else's keepers after the deadline. However, we do not allow to add additional keepers from your own squad.
 
36 Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Sat, Sep 23, 2023, 12:03
I started a keeper thread, post your keepers there. I encourage you to post a preliminary list. You can simply modify and repost it, if you change your mind.

I also posted my keepers. If you have interest in any of my keepers, let me know. I also considered keeping Jordan Clarkson, Alex Caruso and Kevin Porter Jr., so if those interest you, maybe we can work out some kind of deal.
 
37WWCBD
      ID: 37841411
      Sat, Sep 23, 2023, 18:46
Posted.

Deciding between 2/3 of VanVleet/Simons/Sharpe so I'm open to offers there.

Also have Sochan/Jalen Johnson/Dyson Daniels/Peyton Watson available if anyone is looking for cheaper upside guys.
 
38Perm Dude
      ID: 8755259
      Wed, Sep 27, 2023, 20:30
trade announcement:

GO trades:

Steven Adams
2023 3rd round draft pick

Perm Dude trades:

Trey Lyles
2023 1st round draft pick
 
39GO
      ID: 568122720
      Wed, Sep 27, 2023, 21:12
Confirmed
 
40Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Tue, Oct 03, 2023, 21:20
I renewed the league at Draft Time. You don't need to do anything to enroll, you are automagically enrolled. Please check to make sure that this G20 league is in your list of active leagues now, and make sure you can actually log on to Draft Time.
 
41BB the Ball
      ID: 118181117
      Tue, Oct 03, 2023, 22:37
Trade Announcement:

BBthe Ball trades
Miles Bridges
2023 Round 5 Draft pick


TTUCowboy trades
2023 Round 3 Draft pick
 
42ttucowboy
      ID: 28191121
      Tue, Oct 03, 2023, 22:54
Confirmed
 
43GO
      ID: 288332716
      Wed, Oct 04, 2023, 09:04
FYI - Draftime looking good for me
 
44GO
      ID: 288332716
      Wed, Oct 04, 2023, 10:59
Conversely... link the draft matrix above does not work for me. Anybody else?
 
45Guru
      ID: 556321410
      Wed, Oct 04, 2023, 11:31
The draft matrix link works for me.
 
46 artofmonk
      ID: 23651310
      Wed, Oct 04, 2023, 11:33
anyone interested in B. Beal or B. Ingram.

shoot me an email
 
47Guru
      ID: 556321410
      Wed, Oct 04, 2023, 11:35
(also emailed to all managers through the Yahoo site)

Prize pool dues for the coming season are $15. There is no assessment for a trophy fund again this year, as that continues to be amply funded.

As background, we have an optional prize pool. All participating managers contribute $15 at the start of the season, and the pool is distributed at the end to the top six finishers. The actual award amounts are subject to the total amount in the pool, but generally range from about $90-$100 to the winner down to $15 for the #6 team.

New managers do not need to opt into the pool in their first year. But by the second year, they must decide to be in or out. Once you opt in, you must remain in the pool each year to continue in the pool. If you should ever opt out after the first year, then you can never opt back in.

Three managers have opted out: Perm Dude, BB the Ball, and ArtofMonk.

Six managers have sufficient funds on account to cover the dues for 2023:
Bean, RSF, GO, WG, Tree, and Skinneej.

Everyone else owes $15, according to my records. If you think I have missed any funds on account for you, please let me know.

Payments can be sent in any of the following ways:
1. Paypal: please send to davehall@rotoguru.net. (note: this is not my usual email address.) Designate this as “send money to friends and family”, and mark the payment only as "G20 hoops". Do not say "prize" or "pool". Those words are red flags for Paypal.

2. I can also accept payment via Venmo. If this is your preference, let me know your Venmo username and I can send you a Venmo request for payment.

3. Snail mail: check can be sent to the address listed at the bottom of this page:
http://rotoguru2.com/gurupatron-info.html. If you do mail a check, please let me know when you mail it, so I can expect it.

 
48Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Thu, Oct 05, 2023, 11:34
One week to keeper deadline and 14/20 managers have submitted keepers in the keeper thread. Still awaiting keepers for:

01 143.0 Skinnee J's
05 125.5 #DemBoyz Pour 1 out for Jamin
07 113.0 SANFORDORS
12 088.0 youngroman's Luschen
13 086.0 KnicksFan
19 037.0 Weekend Over
 
49 WG
      ID: 89402220
      Thu, Oct 05, 2023, 11:51
With both Draymond and Gafford getting hurt, I'm open to explore a trade for an extra keeper. Jordan Poole for two guys I can keep? Poole 24yr.
 
50Tree
      ID: 35831168
      Fri, Oct 06, 2023, 12:27
i have traveled back in time to 2008 to use a message board. very weird. checking out myspace and friendster next.

Kyle Kuzma, Austin Reaves, and D'Angelo Russell all on the block.

looking for picks, or if you wanna blockbuster video it up, i might find the right 2 or 3 for your 1....
 
51Tree
      ID: 35831168
      Fri, Oct 06, 2023, 12:53
oh yea, reach out via email at treesham at gmail dot com, or if you have my number, text me.
 
52Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Mon, Oct 09, 2023, 21:42
I've updated the Draft Matrix to include the two trades above. Here is the LINK.
 
53R-Money wknd ovr
      ID: 32122023
      Mon, Oct 09, 2023, 22:24
Will listen to any offers on keeper trades, non keeper trades, Draft pick trades - including the first overall. Any offers no matter how crazy will be considered and if need be countered.

Weekend Over Keepers as of 10/9
Donovan Mitchell CLE - G
Jabari Smith JR HOU - F,C
Tyrese Maxey PHI - G
John Collins UTA - F
Tre Jones SAS - G
Donte DiVincenzo NYK - G,F
 
54 ttucowboy
      ID: 28191121
      Mon, Oct 09, 2023, 22:25
Steph Curry otb for a 2 for 1 with Steph being the 1.
 
55WWCBD
      ID: 37841411
      Tue, Oct 10, 2023, 17:14
Trade

WWCBD gives:

Fred VanVleet
Anfernee Simons

ttucowboy gives:

Steph Curry
 
56ttucowboy
      ID: 28191121
      Tue, Oct 10, 2023, 17:34
55 confirmed
 
57Dave R
      SuperDude
      ID: 3010361110
      Tue, Oct 10, 2023, 21:31
Any one interested in Anthony Davis, Paul George or Rudy Gobert?

Reach out
 
58 Skinneej
      ID: 428201521
      Wed, Oct 11, 2023, 02:13
Brooks Lopez available for anyone needing 3s and Blocks. Could also pair him in a 2 for 1 along with one of my keepers like Derozan or Siakam for an upgrade preferably a big.
 
59 ttucowboy
      ID: 28191121
      Wed, Oct 11, 2023, 06:53
PJ Washington or Gary Trent Jr for a pick swap upgrade if someone is looking for a keeper to round out their list.
 
60Dave R
      SuperDude
      ID: 3010361110
      Wed, Oct 11, 2023, 07:25
I'm not a real fan of the new Yahoo set up, at least it looks different to me.
Anyone know how to access last years full standings with the categories?
 
61Perm Dude
      ID: 8755259
      Wed, Oct 11, 2023, 09:27
It isn't easy.

Go to the standings page, then go to the "2022 Season" in the pull down menu.

Go to Full standings in the pull down menu on that page.

It'll take you to a Live Standings page. Click on "Turn off Live Standings"

Boom. There you are. Last year's full standings.
 
62 Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Wed, Oct 11, 2023, 13:48
Here's the schedule from above:

FRI 13 OCT 11:59 PM EDT Keeper Deadline
SUN 15 OCT Draft Turned ON
MON 16 OCT Clock Turned ON
TUE 24 OCT Regular Season Starts

I am going to be out of town when the deadline hits and wont be back until after the draft has begun. As a result, I need to do as much as possible in the next two days to prep the draft. Having your keepers in ASAP would certainly help that effort.

The following is a list of people who still need to do something, I have asked them to do repeatedly:

01 143.0 Skinnee J's
05 125.5 #DemBoyz Pour 1 out for Jamin
13 086.0 KnicksFan
 
63ttucowboy
      ID: 28191121
      Wed, Oct 11, 2023, 21:58
Bridges couldn’t even make it to the keeper deadline. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
 
64RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 45103890
      Thu, Oct 12, 2023, 02:37
Trade:

WWCBD trades:
Shaedon Sharpe
2023.6th Rounder (6.16)

RecycledSpinalFluid trades:
Klay Thompson
2023.3rd Rounder (3.19)


Klay, it was was a short stay with us, but I am sure you will appreciate your new teammate Stephen.

Now I get a local PDX guy to root for in fantasy. Yeah!
 
65WWCBD
      ID: 37841411
      Thu, Oct 12, 2023, 02:47
Confirmed, go Blazers
 
66 Tree
      ID: 35831168
      Thu, Oct 12, 2023, 13:44
Kyle Kuzma, Austin Reaves, and D'Angelo Russell all on the block. great assets to own!
 
67Tree
      ID: 35831168
      Thu, Oct 12, 2023, 15:55
i have been instructed that it's mandatory to post preliminary keepers, which is a first for me -

they are as follows:

Austin Reaves LAL - G,F
Corey Kispert WAS - G,F
D'Angelo Russell LAL - G
Deandre Ayton POR - C 
Dejounte Murray ATL - G 
Jalen Brunson NYK - G 
Jordan Nwora IND - F
Kyle Kuzma WAS - F 
Malcolm Brogdon POR - G
O.G. Anunoby TOR - G,F 
Quentin Grimes NYK - G,F
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander OKC - G 
Trendon Watford BKN - F

my final keepers will be posted by the deadline.


 
68Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Thu, Oct 12, 2023, 16:32
Welcome to the league Tree.
 
69 Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Thu, Oct 12, 2023, 18:18
I've loaded your keepers in Yahoo, you can check them by looking at draft results. I had to guess at Tree's keepers. Let me know if you see an issue. I'll try to update them if someone submits a keeper change today.

You can now look at the Yahoo players tab to see who might be available for your first round pick. During the draft, I will try to add your picks as the draft progresses. It should make the player tab a useful tool.

I have updated the DRAFT MATRIX to reflect the trade in #55 above.

I entered the Draft Matrix into Draft Time, and am now loading keepers into Draft Time.

I made Guru and GO co-commish in both Yahoo and Draft Time. For you two, if you find time, please check my work and just correct it if you find an error. Send me an e-mail afterward if you think of it.

I am going to be driving tomorrow, and hope to get the un-timed draft started some time on Saturday morning, if I can get my PC set up with no hitches. I have pretty full days planned for Saturday and Sunday, then I drive back on Monday.
I will do my best to make it transparent for you all. My e-mail is in the blue link. If a draft emergency occurs during the draft, text me at 719-638-0337. At a minimum I will try to stop the draft until it can be fixed.

 
70WWCBD
      ID: 559271217
      Thu, Oct 12, 2023, 18:27
Still undecided on my 6th keeper now that I traded Sharpe but I'll have my decision by the deadline. The other 5 are locked. Thanks Bean
 
71WG
      ID: 89402220
      Thu, Oct 12, 2023, 18:51
Duff, isn't Klay your 6th now??
 
72Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Thu, Oct 12, 2023, 18:52
It is what I assumed
 
73WWCBD
      ID: 37841411
      Thu, Oct 12, 2023, 18:55
He may be, still debating between Klay/Sochan/Jalen Johnson tbh. I'm going check out rotations during the next day of games.
 
74Tree
      ID: 35831168
      Fri, Oct 13, 2023, 08:28
Welcome to the league Tree.

I've been in the league. remember last season, when you allowed people to tank in order to get a good draft pick? I was here for that.
 
75Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Fri, Oct 13, 2023, 10:35
NOBODY wants this job, Tree; including me. Step up or shut up.
 
76Guru
      ID: 0531518
      Fri, Oct 13, 2023, 22:33
I'm traveling overseas until Wednesday. I will do my best to keep the draft moving. Do not count on me to assume any co-commish duties until I return
 
77Fosten
      ID: 10031913
      Fri, Oct 13, 2023, 22:39
Can't believe y'all are letting Tobias Harris go back into the draft. I'll be sitting by the email machine until 11:59pm. Send me a trade offer and he's yours!
 
78Dave R
      SuperDude
      ID: 3010361110
      Sat, Oct 14, 2023, 10:12
Now that the draft has started, when will Yahoo and Draftime be updated to reflect taken players. Pre-ranking in draftime reflects the entire player pool. Unless I'm doing it wrong
 
79Guru
      ID: 562241622
      Sat, Oct 14, 2023, 10:52
I'm not seeing anything on Yahoo that reflects keepers.
 
80GO
      ID: 568122720
      Sat, Oct 14, 2023, 11:32
Trade!
1.03
GO 2024 1st
For
1.04
WWCBD 2024 1st

I am just going to pick whoever Duff tells me to to move this along unless someone sees this right away
 
81WWCBD
      ID: 37841411
      Sat, Oct 14, 2023, 11:41
Confirmed
 
82Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Sat, Oct 14, 2023, 12:07
<78> and <79> If you navigate to Draft results in Yahoo, you should see your keepers. In Draft Time, if you click on the link with your name on any pick, you will arrive at a page with your roster so far and what picks you have left in Draft Time.

If you want to see what players are left, along with stats, you can go to the players tab in Yahoo. Otherwise Draft Time removes them from available as players are picked up. Yahoo will only be current within a round or so, depending on how well I keep up with the draft.

I don't know what else to tell you guys. Maybe I don't understand the question (s).

 
83Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Sat, Oct 14, 2023, 12:19
<80> GO & WWCBD, I do not understand this trade you are announcing for your 2024 picks. 2024 picks? Did you mean 2023?

What is the rationale for this being a fair trade, if its for 2023? Should there not be some throw in? It seems like a gift.
 
84WWCBD
      ID: 37841411
      Sat, Oct 14, 2023, 12:32
I assume GO sees 2 players as equal at 3/4 and believes he will finish higher in the standings next year, gaining a pick advantage in 2024.
 
85WWCBD
      ID: 37841411
      Sat, Oct 14, 2023, 12:34
Higher in standings *this year/season (phrasing)
 
86GO
      ID: 568122720
      Sat, Oct 14, 2023, 12:36
Yep, I'm good with 2 different guys.
Just glad to not have my own pick next year.

So simply we have each other's 1st next year.
 
87Dave R
      SuperDude
      ID: 3010361110
      Sat, Oct 14, 2023, 13:28
I think I got it. You prerank the players, then you need to import them, and it eliminates picked players.

At least it looks right. Odd to see Brook as their highest ranked player available
 
88RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 45103890
      Sat, Oct 14, 2023, 13:38
Wake me up in a couple of days when its my pick...
 
89Guru
      ID: 562241622
      Sat, Oct 14, 2023, 14:05
[82] When I go to the players tab in Yahoo, I don't see any initially rostered player who was not kept. For example, I did not keep Dillon Brooks. But in the players tab, he is still listed as being on my roster, so he is not included with free agents.

I guess I'll have to use the draftime screen for the time being.
 
91Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Sat, Oct 14, 2023, 14:53
<89> OK Guru, I see now, things changed since last five years or more. Guess its no longer useful, sorry bout that. I could start the season in Yahoo and just do adds for all the players, that might work. Will let you all know.
 
92Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Sat, Oct 14, 2023, 15:10
OK, I started the season, so you can NOW use the Player Tab as I intended you to. I will do Commissioner adds for the six rounds.
 
93Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Sat, Oct 14, 2023, 15:17
<80> <87> Yeah I think someone taught that you click on "Pre-rank Players" at the top on the Draft Time Home Page. Then in the specific draft, you click on "General Queue" followed by "Import Pre-Ranked Players" That gives you a list to draft from.

Brook Lopez is at the top.
 
94Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Sat, Oct 14, 2023, 15:26
<83><84> Sorry had to get up at 3 AM for my non-hoops activities here. Did not get enough sleep. I think I understand the trade now. You all are trading both 2023 AND 2024 first round picks. Just for clarification, I am guessing that GO did the pick/player swap in Draft Time already, and that your Draft Time rosters are correct now. (i.e. Duff gets Thompson and GO gets Miller).
 
95WWCBD
      ID: 559271217
      Sat, Oct 14, 2023, 15:57
Yup you got it
 
96Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Sat, Oct 14, 2023, 16:49
BTW, I assume WWCBD is What would "CB" do. Who is the CB in this acronym? Chris Bosh? Charles Barkley? Inquiring minds want to know.
 
97WWCBD
      ID: 559271217
      Sat, Oct 14, 2023, 18:07
Charles Barkley you got it. My pic(s) on yahoo have been headshots of Charles.
 
98RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 45103890
      Sat, Oct 14, 2023, 18:20
I just assumed he was really into CBD...
 
99WWCBD
      ID: 559271217
      Sat, Oct 14, 2023, 19:20
I tried my best. Still not convinced it's not a placebo.
 
100Philly Busters
      ID: 311122313
      Sat, Oct 14, 2023, 23:41
I'm filled with self-loathing for drafting Ben Simmons but felt I needed to swing for the fences to contend. It will be painful to root for him, that's for sure. Unless he's back to anything even remotely resembling his former level of play.
 
101WWCBD
      ID: 37841411
      Sun, Oct 15, 2023, 00:44
I mean, worst case you just trade him and a middling PF for Tatum.

Too soon? :)
 
102Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Mon, Oct 16, 2023, 09:40
We are making great progress. I set the clock to four hour picks, it will likely remain there for the remainder of the draft.

We have 2 IL positions this year. Some of you will want to fill immediately after the draft. Normally the undrafted would go on waivers for a day after the draft is over. Because of the way I loaded the players, that wont happen. So, if you want to pick up a guy on waivers, you will have to make a claim by telling me. I will give details of that process near the end of the draft.
 
103GO
      ID: 288332716
      Mon, Oct 16, 2023, 10:34
Thanks Bean, I'm back from vacation and working from home this week if any trades or anything happen I am glad to help process them on Draftime.
 
104 GO
      ID: 288332716
      Mon, Oct 16, 2023, 10:37
Anyone looking to get bigger, I am looking to add another Guard eligible player... this can really be at any caliber of player -- just looking for a similarly ranked option.
F/Cs available... Embiid, Banchero, Valanciunas, Brandon Miller or Christian Wood.
 
105 Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Thu, Oct 19, 2023, 11:16
We are done drafting. Started the draft clock Monday morning and we are done on Thursday. Might be a record, congratulations everyone, and thanks for using queues and timely picks.

I reset the waiver priority to reverse of draft order (i.e. standings order). I believe I have done that consistently each year. I will make a note in the rules to reflect that for future seasons.

As I said earlier, we have two IL positions this year, so I expect a few of you will be picking up players via FA or waiver. You cannot add/drop players right now, I have frozen that capability. Due to the way I entered players in Yahoo, so that you could use the player tabs during the draft, you will have to submit waiver claims via e-mail to me.

You will have until 11:59 PM EDT on Friday, 20 OCT to submit waiver claims to me via e-mail (use the blue link). I will remove the ADD/DROP roster restriction around 10:00 AM EDT on Saturday, 21 OCT.

Again, thanks for being attentive during the draft, and good luck this year.

 
106BB the Ball
      ID: 118181117
      Thu, Oct 19, 2023, 19:36
Fantastic fun fast moving draft-- thanks for coordinating Bean--- draft time is one of my favorite times of the year -- now the work of the season! Good luck to all
 
107GO
      ID: 288332716
      Fri, Oct 20, 2023, 12:17
Thank you Bean, great work.
 
108Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Sat, Oct 21, 2023, 00:26
Knicksfan picked up Jalen Smith via waivers as an injury replacement. Our only waiver add.
 
109Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Sat, Oct 21, 2023, 09:57
You should be able to add/drop now.
 
110Perm Dude
      ID: 8755259
      Tue, Oct 24, 2023, 16:41
Well, nice trade for Steven Adams. Not.
 
111Tree
      ID: 35831168
      Mon, Oct 30, 2023, 17:16
Well, nice trade for Steven Adams. Not.

candidly speaking, it wasn't a nice trade before he got injured.
 
112RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 45103890
      Mon, Oct 30, 2023, 18:37
Piling on...it was an unnecessary trade. You could have kept Time Lord and then just selected anyone, including Adams, with the 3rd pick. Adams would have easily been around until the teens picks, if not significantly later, I'd bet. Oh well.
 
113RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 45103890
      Mon, Oct 30, 2023, 18:38
*assuming he wasn't traded elsewhere pre-draft.
 
114RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 45103890
      Tue, Oct 31, 2023, 02:54
Damn, Harden was just traded for a paper bag full of mismatched holey socks and a few draft picks...
 
115Skinneej
      ID: 428201521
      Tue, Oct 31, 2023, 19:22
I saw an article that said it was similar to a fantasy manager trading him for 2 bench players and another guy that was going to be dropped to the waiver wire anyway. Going to be interesting to see how LAC makes it work with 4 type A guys.
 
116Perm Dude
      ID: 8755259
      Tue, Nov 14, 2023, 11:34
Wiggins just isn't doing it this year. If anyone feels like they would have more patience with him than I do, shoot me an offer.
 
117Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Mon, Nov 20, 2023, 14:43
Are there any picks in the Poole/Butler trade?
 
118Perm Dude
      ID: 8755259
      Mon, Nov 20, 2023, 14:50
No. Straight up.
 
119GO
      ID: 568122720
      Fri, Dec 08, 2023, 21:26
Some combo of my young Forwards for a equally ranked young guard?
Banchero + Brandon Miller + Jaquez Jr
 
120RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 45103890
      Sun, Dec 17, 2023, 01:48
Trade:

To Tosh:
Dyson Daniels
RSF 2024.2nd Rounder

To RSF:
Grant Williams
Tosh 2024.4th Rounder
 
121Tosh
      ID: 69302312
      Sun, Dec 17, 2023, 21:53
confirmed
 
122RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 45103890
      Fri, Dec 29, 2023, 03:05
Was really hoping Andre Drummond would make it 3 consecutive days with a 20+ rebounder (Drummond then Allen), but alas he came up a bit short at 16. But he did continue to show he is one of the All Time Great offensive rebounders (should move into 14th place soon).
 
123WWCBD
      ID: 331149292
      Fri, Dec 29, 2023, 03:49
Respect for hanging onto his generally lifeless corpse for the glorious week when he gets you 100 rebounds ;)

I was genuinely shocked to see you have had him the entire year but in this format it makes sense.
 
124RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 45103890
      Fri, Dec 29, 2023, 18:26
Ha. That speaks volumes to the state of my rostered centers. Actually, he was rostered as a specialist for those offensive rebounds. His "Per-36" numbers are just off the wall ridiculous, but when you average around 14-15 minutes per game, that's not a hugely meaningful stat.

Funny thing, Vucevic, who he's filling for, also had one of the few 20 rebound games so far. Something in the Chicago River water.
 
125RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 45103890
      Mon, Jan 01, 2024, 22:21
I was just looking at this Spida-WWCBD trade:

WWCBD trades
Cam Whitmore
2024 1st Rounder

to Spida for
Isaiah Hartenstein
2024 6th Rounder

The problem isn't the trade, just that WWCBD already traded "his" 1st to GO during the draft. (see post 80)

So, it should be
Spida has GO's 1st
GO has WWCBD's 1st

That of course is true, unless the GO - WWCBD thing is a "swap rights" type thing (which it probably should be).

Just trying to keep the picks straight. And any order that can help me get higher, I'm for that to...although this isn't that.
 
126WWCBD
      ID: 331149292
      Tue, Jan 02, 2024, 13:31
The first round swap before Go and I isn't showing in Yahoo, so when I went to trade my first rounder, it only showed my own team first.

But yeah, the 1st I traded to Spida is technically Go Sixers first next year. Go currently owns my original first.
 
127WWCBD
      ID: 331149292
      Tue, Jan 02, 2024, 13:31
Between* not before
 
128Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Tue, Jan 02, 2024, 14:12
thanks for confirming what we all assumed WWCBD. And thanks for bringing it up RSF. At least we have the issue documented, so when i set up draft next year, we have a record of it.
 
130WG
      ID: 89402220
      Thu, Jan 04, 2024, 10:00
Yahoo says a 3 instead of 2?
 
131GO
      ID: 201138119
      Thu, Jan 04, 2024, 13:32
yeah, thanks sir... perils of typing on a phone.

Tosh acquires
Killian Hayes
WWCBD's 1st round (via GO)
GO 3rd round

GO acquires
Aaron Gordon
Tosh 5th
Tosh 6th
 
132 WG
      ID: 89402220
      Thu, Jan 04, 2024, 14:32
My 2 and 3 separately otb for any help now, preferably in 3s, Pts, Stls.
 
133Tosh
      ID: 69302312
      Thu, Jan 04, 2024, 16:58
131 - confirm
 
134WG
      ID: 89402220
      Thu, Jan 04, 2024, 17:15
TRADE

Tree gets WG's 24-1, Goga Bitadze, Ayo Dosunmu
WG gets Kyle Kuzma and Tree's 24-6
 
135RecycledSpinalFluidi
      ID: 45103890
      Thu, Jan 04, 2024, 17:55
I'd like to invoke the little known league by-law known as "give-backsies", where I am allowed to rescind a "less than optimal" trade.

In this case, Grant Williams would like to return to Tosh. I think when you look up the term "Consistency", you will see this example of its use in a sentence:

"Grant Williams exemplifies consistency in his extreme inconsistency."
 
136 WG
      ID: 89402220
      Thu, Jan 04, 2024, 18:20
Kevon Looney otb for anyone looking for OREB (16th most) or REB. Swap for 3/Pts/Stl guy.
 
137Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Sat, Jan 06, 2024, 09:53
Did not intend to drop Nesmith, clicked on wrong player. Added him back.
 
138BB The Ball
      ID: 7034610
      Sat, Jan 06, 2024, 11:34
Accepted Trade: between WG and BB the Ball

BB the ball gets : Christian Wood and 2024 Round 2

WG gets Bogdan Bogdanovic and 2024 Round 6

 
139WG
      ID: 89402220
      Sat, Jan 06, 2024, 11:41
Confirmed.
 
140RecycledSpinalFluidi
      ID: 45103890
      Sat, Jan 06, 2024, 19:34
So bean enacted the "give-backsies" rule, sorta. lol.
 
141WWCBD
      ID: 331149292
      Sat, Jan 06, 2024, 20:44
This is why you don't drink and drop.
 
143ttucowboy
      ID: 28191121
      Sat, Jan 06, 2024, 22:00
G20 Baseball is looking for two (maybe 3?) new owners. It will be a 3-person draft of vacated players and prospects which is a fun wrinkle.

Please see Post 173 of this thread for details:

G20 Baseball

And contact Species if interested:

gmrobinson1@yahoo.com
 
144RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 45103890
      Tue, Jan 09, 2024, 11:12
GO, you suck. Grumble grumble Brook Lopez grumble...
 
145RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 45103890
      Tue, Jan 09, 2024, 11:15
If I only had a stud like Clint Capela...
 
146GO
      ID: 201138119
      Tue, Jan 09, 2024, 18:06
Thank god for JJJ... did he go undrafted or did someone give up on him way too early?

I don't typically move younger guys - especially with that much early success and opportunity - but worth a shot to wrinkle feathers of the elite teams.
 
147 ttucowboy
      ID: 28191121
      Fri, Jan 12, 2024, 08:43
Clint Capela and Fred VanVleet otb. Looking to shake things up. Open to ideas.
 
148RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 45103890
      Fri, Jan 19, 2024, 02:37
Like clockwork, in Marvin Bagley's first game for my team, he drops a 0 for 5 on free throws.

On my team, FT% means Forget-That-Percentage (the clean version, that is...)
 
149Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Sat, Jan 20, 2024, 10:32
;)
 
150Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Mon, Jan 29, 2024, 11:47
Reminder, we have a trade deadline. From the league settings:

Trade End Date: February 29, 2024

Leap day! Don't forget.
 
151 ttucowboy
      ID: 28191121
      Fri, Feb 02, 2024, 10:38
Pascal Siakam otb. Open to ideas.
 
152GO
      ID: 43119212
      Mon, Feb 05, 2024, 10:56
Feel like I'm forced to explore moving my favorite player Embiid to take a shot at this thing. Inquire within.
 
153RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 45103890
      Mon, Feb 05, 2024, 15:38
BBall Paul for Embiid, straight up!
 
154GO
      ID: 43119212
      Mon, Feb 05, 2024, 16:37
I do love him too! :)
 
155RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 45103890
      Tue, Feb 13, 2024, 11:10
I need a prize for how terrible my FT% is.
 
156WWCBD
      ID: 331149292
      Fri, Feb 23, 2024, 02:33
I have full confidence in a H2H 9-cat you'd be a heavy favorite RSF, but the times of punting FT% may be over for now. Not sure anyone can win this league with any category beneath maybe an 8?
 
157RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 38142232
      Fri, Feb 23, 2024, 03:42
I’d love to claim to intentionally punting the cat, but this is just more a misconstructed team more than anything. When Harden was popping out 10+ FT a game, sprinkling some Gallinari at 5+, it could mask the one man FT% death squad that is Giannis. Love the dude, but man…try it left hand maybe?
 
158RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 45103890
      Sat, Feb 24, 2024, 14:50
Couple of Cs on the block.

Need all around game:
BBall Paul Reed - As starter:
10 pts, 8 boards (with 3 YES 3! Offensive Rebounds) 2.2 Stocks. Sillyass 37% on 3pt% (hardly any attempts, but still.) Top 30/80 ranking over last 30 days.
Would like a nice pick swap upgrade or a decent young guard who pops some threes.

Andre Drummond - Starting numbers are ridiculous 14-17(6.2) with nearly 3 Stocks...but hes not starting right now, so we'll take the uber solid line of 8-8(3.4 WHAT?! Oreb) with 1.9 Stocks. FT% sucks, but limited attempts.
Moderate pick swap upgrade (or more if you want to).

OK, I'm done with used car salesman routine.
 
159GO
      ID: 43119212
      Tue, Feb 27, 2024, 15:53
Trae Young anyone? Embiid? #10 and #11 on Hashtag Dynasty ranks and nobody even cracked an offer when they went down?
 
160Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Tue, Feb 27, 2024, 20:45
Reminder, we have a trade deadline. From the league settings:

Trade End Date: February 29, 2024

Leap day! Don't forget.
 
161 WG
      ID: 89402220
      Wed, Feb 28, 2024, 20:23
4-6 swap for help now, anyone??
 
162Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Sat, Mar 02, 2024, 15:13
Summary of all the Pick trades this year. If I have something wrong, or I missed something, let me know.

IX 2024 Draft Pick Trades:
# YYYY-MM-DD Sends-Rd For-Rd #Post

01 2023-10-14 GO-1 WWCBD-1 #80
02 2023-12-18 RSF-2 Tosh-4 #120
03 2023-12-25 WWCBD-(GO-1) Spida-6 #125
04 2023-12-28 Sanforders- 2 WWCBD-6 #none
05 2024-01-04 PermDude-5 RSF-3 #none
06 2024-01-05 Tosh-5&6 GO-3&(WWCBD-1) #131
07 2024-01-06 Tree-6 WG-1 #none
08 2024-01-08 BBtheBall-6 WG-2 #138
09 2024-01-11 GO-2 KnicksFan-6 #none
10 2024-01-30 skineej-2 ttucowboy-6 #none
11 2024-02-03 Rotoguru-6 WG-3 #none
12 2024-02-04 Bean-3 RSF-1 #none
13 2024-03-02 Bean-6 WG-4 #none
 
163Tosh
      Dude
      ID: 057721710
      Sat, Mar 23, 2024, 18:20
I have 5 current keepers on my roster (traded one away) ...

Out indefinitely due to Hamstring
Out indefinitely due to Back
Out indefinitely due to Shoulder
Out indefinitely due to Shoulder
Out indefinitely due to Knee

Talk about just playing out the last 22 days!
 
164RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 45103890
      Wed, Apr 03, 2024, 02:15
Only 18 points back...I got this!
 
165RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 45103890
      Fri, Apr 05, 2024, 01:07
RE: Post 135. Tosh & RSF announce the completion of the "give-backsies" rule, finally completing the Daniels/Williams trade reversal. While I do incur a 2 round penalty for the swap back, I look forward to what the future with Dyson brings.
 
166Tosh
      ID: 69302312
      Fri, Apr 05, 2024, 13:46
Grant Williams has enjoyed his time back on the roster. Thanks for returning him to the mothership.
 
167 BB the Ball
      ID: 10381417
      Sun, Apr 14, 2024, 18:08
Congrats WG
 
168WWCBD
      ID: 15301421
      Sun, Apr 14, 2024, 22:00
Congrats to the winner. Bean, you can go ahead and shoot my winnings to Eric (skinnee) and my team is available. I'm tapping out on fantasy bball.

Gluck all!
 
169Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Mon, Apr 15, 2024, 00:20
Grats WG as well as all those finishing in the money. Hope everyone had fun this year. Will wrap this up with prizes, demerits, lottery and a draft matrix.

Thanks for the early heads up on your departure plans WWCBD. If someone has a friend looking for a team, have them check in at roll call in the fall.
 
170Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Mon, Apr 15, 2024, 13:12
Final Strandings:

Rank Points Team

01 150.0  Wazaaap Guy
02 142.0  WWCBD (tied)
02 142.0  Skinnee J's (tied)
04 134.0  RSF's Dead men walking
05 124.0  SANFORDORS
06 119.0 GO Sixers
07 112.0  Bean's Buckeyes
08 109.5  BB the Ball
09 107.5  youngroman's Luschen
10 098.0  Weekend Over
11 097.0  Philly Busters
12 087.0  Munson Mobsters
13 086.5  #DemBoyz Pour 1 out for Jamin
14 076.0  Spida
15 065.0  ttucowboy
16 061.0  KnicksFan
17 050.0  PT's Pleasant Team
18 049.0  Air Tosh
19 041.5  Fred's Team
20 039.0  Roto Guru20
 
171Tosh
      ID: 69302312
      Mon, Apr 15, 2024, 14:48
Congrats WG!
 
172Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Apr 15, 2024, 15:36
Prize winners have been notified by email. (I did not email WWCBD per his comments in [168].)

I'll plan to run the lottery later this week. I will send out notice in advance.
 
173Skinneej
      ID: 253531516
      Mon, Apr 15, 2024, 17:53
Congrats WG! We couldn’t catch you at the end after you built the late lead. Even though my team was only 1 point off of last year which was good enough to win, you managed to cruise with an 8 point margin this year which is impressive.
 
174Skinneej
      ID: 253531516
      Mon, Apr 15, 2024, 17:57
Sorry to see you go Duff. It was fun talking hoops with u long distance, and I’ll get back out to Portland next year to catch another game with you. Thanks for the extra funds you threw me, I’ll owe u a few beers when I see u next!
 
175RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 45103890
      Mon, Apr 15, 2024, 19:36
Congrats WG on ring #3!
 
176Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Apr 16, 2024, 12:43
I will plan to run the draft lottery at approx. 12 noon ET on Friday, April 19.

The first step is to generate multiple sets of random numbers from 1-14. The first four numbers from each set will map to a specific team. As there are 1001 possible combination of four numbers pulled from 1-14, one specific combination results in a "do over" and the other 1000 are all assigned to lottery teams in proportion to their respective odds. 140 of those combinations are assigned to the bottom team, 140 to the second to bottom team, and so forth. Only 5 are assigned to the top ranked lottery team. This is exactly the same numerical process used by the NBA.

The first set of random numbers determines the team that gets the first pick. The second set determines the second pick (unless it's a duplicate, in which case we have a "do over"). The process continues until we have the top three draft picks assigned. Thereafter, teams follow in sequence according to their draft ranking.

For audit transparency, the random numbers are pulled from a routine at random.org, and I will have the results simultaneously emailed to several other league managers, including all 5 of the bottom teams. Note that, because this email originates onfrom my server, some email providers (including gmail) sometimes block it. I will also retain a copy of the original random number output, if needed for verification.

Once I apply the random numbers to determine the picks, I will post the results in this rotoguru forum thread. I will also upload and link the underlying spreadsheet with all of the details.
 
177Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Apr 16, 2024, 12:49
Here are the odds of each team being selected for each of the top three picks:

7th place Bean's Buckeyes 0.5%
8th place BB the Ball 1.0%
9th place youngroman's Luschen 1.7%
10th place Weekend Over 1.8%
11th place Philly Busters 4.5%
12th place Munson Mobsters 4.5%
13th place #DemBoyz Pour 1 out for Jamin 4.5%
14th place Spida 7.5%
15th place ttucowboy 9.0%
17th(*) place PT's Pleasant Team 10.5%
16th place KnicksFan 12.5%
18th place Air Tosh 14.0%
19th place Fred's Team 14.0%
20th place Roto Guru20 14.0%

(*)Note that PT's Pleasant Team was bumped back one slot due to failure to meet the minimum GP threshold for the past season (650 GP vs minimum required of 656 = one demerit)
 
178WG
      ID: 89402220
      Wed, Apr 17, 2024, 15:35
Thanks all for another fun and challenging year. Duff and Skineej definitely made it close toward the end, and I was constantly tracking the different categories down the stretch to see how they could and would change. Was fortunate to get good health from my keepers and guys traded for. Thanks Bean and Guru for your efforts. Looking forward to defending!
 
179Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Fri, Apr 19, 2024, 12:02
Results of draft lottery:

Pick #1: ttucowboy
Pick #2: PT's Pleasant team
Pick #3: Spida

The bottom three teams get shut out this year.
 
180Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Fri, Apr 19, 2024, 12:39
Underlying draft lottery spreadsheet, for audit:
http://rotoguru1.com/hoop/G20/G20-Apr24-14x4_balls.xlsx
 
181R-Money
      ID: 32122023
      Fri, Apr 19, 2024, 14:28
Bean, Guru, everyone. Thanks for the season. Congrats everyone.
 
182 Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Sat, Apr 20, 2024, 01:11
Draft Matrix for 2024 Draft

Let me know if you find an error.