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Subject: Gurupie 20: 2024-25 Preseason Discussion


  Posted by: Bean - [12552510] Wed, Sep 11, 2024, 10:08

Constitution

I Site / Stat Source / League Fees

All game, roster and scoring rules will be governed by Yahoo. There is no fee for using Yahoo.

II Draft
The Supplemental Draft consists of a slow draft and held on the Draftime.com website. Time limits will be three hours for individual picks and 8 hours cumulative clock. You may draft until your picks run out or you have reached twelve (12) players. The clock will be stopped from midnight to 8 AM ET but picks may be made during that time. If you time out, you will be skipped and may select at any time. If you have been skipped and have not made up that pick and it becomes your turn again, you will be skipped for that pick as well. If you leave a Q and that person is available to post your pick, you will not be charged any time on your cumulative clock.

The draft order will be reverse of last year's regular season finish and it will NOT snake. Only players currently in the NBA database are eligible to be drafted. Waivers Priority will begin in the same order as the basic draft order (lottery excluded). Please note: The bottom 14 teams will be in the lottery similar to the actual NBA draft. Top three picks for next year will be selected via lottery. 4th-14th picks will be selected based on inverse order of standings.

III League Settings:
Draft Type: Offline Draft and E-mail draft
Max Teams: 20
Scoring Type: Rotisserie
Max Moves: No maximum
Max Trades: No maximum
Trade Review: League Votes (7 needed to veto)
Post Draft Players: Follow Waiver Rules
Max Games Played: 720 (enforced by position)
Roster Positions: G, G, F, F, C, Util, Util, Util, BN, BN, BN, BN, IL, IL
Stat Categories: FG%, FT%, 3PTM, PTS, OREB, REB, AST, ST, BLK

IV Minimum Games Played / Penalties
A team must accumulate a minimum of 656 GP (82 GP/pos) over the course of a season. For each 8 games of shortfall (1 GP/pos), a team is assigned one demerit. Demerits will be integer values only. Thus, a team with 1-8 games of shortfall will receive one demerit, 9-16 will receive 2 demerits, etc.

If a team finishes in the money for prize pool purposes (ranked 1-6), then demerits will be ignored.

For lottery teams, the following penalties will be applied to every pick in the next year's supplement draft:

If a team accumulates more than 10 demerits, then it will be removed from the lottery and assigned the 14th pick in all rounds (i.e., behind all lottery teams, but ahead of any prize pool teams.)

For teams with less than 10 demerits, that team is pushed forward one place in the supplemental draft rankings for each demerit. For example, if a team finishes in last place (20th) and has 5 demerits, then that team will be treated in the draft rankings as though it finished in 15th place (and the teams actually finishing in places 16-20 will each move down one place.)

If more than one lottery team has a demerit, then the lottery rankings will be successively applied starting with the worst finisher and then moving up to the next worst finisher, etc.

Note: While the maximum number of games is measured on a GP/pos (enforced by the Yahoo site), the minimum number of games is NOT. For minimum games, all measurements are based on total games played without regard for position.

V Trades
All trades during the season must be submitted via the website's offer trade feature to the league for review. If there is a draft pick it needs to be posted in our thread at rotoguru.com and needs to be confirmed by both parties. You might want to rationalize your trade as it takes just 7 members to reject the trade. You have one day to reject it so please check the site at LEAST once per day (many will have the email feature that emails all accepted trades). Remember with a Keeper league there may be draft picks involved so take the time to check those before rejecting it. Please only reject a trade based on the trade and not the teams involved. A trade by its very nature should help both teams either now, the future or both. All off-season/preseason trades will be governed by a commish.

VI Keepers
Returning owners will have a deadline to declare what players from their team they wish to keep. Each owner may keep up to 6.

You may keep less than six. You may trade keepers after you have declared, but you may not go over six until all 20 teams have officially declared at the Keeper deadline. At that point you may go up to 12 players.

If you keep less than six, the only way you can add a sixth keeper is via trade. You may not drop a player until after the draft is complete.

If you do not name your Keepers by the deadline, the commish(s) will choose those for you and they will be final. If you post your Keepers after the deadline but before the commish posts, your Keepers will be honored. Typically, the commish(s) will start figuring out uncommitted Keepers as soon as the deadline has passed.

All un-kept players will go into the draft. A player MUST be in the NBA database in order to be kept.

The only off-season transactions that will be allowed are trades. No free agents may be picked up after the end of the season. Trades of a player for a draft pick are allowed.

VII Prizes
A fine plaque will be engraved and shipped to the winner courtesy of the previous year's winner. The trophy will be yours to proudly display with your other cherished mementos for 1 year. It will be the winner's responsibility to engrave it and ship it to the winner. There will be an added nominal fee to help cover expenses related to the engraving and shipping of the plaque.

A separate cash prize pool has also been established. It is strictly voluntary. Only those who participate will be eligible for this prize. $15 USD entry must be paid by the season opener. The exact method of prize distribution will vary from year to year depending on participation. We focus payouts so it will NOT be winner take all. Six owners will have a chance to win something. Prize pool funds are due by Opening Night.

If any of the non-participants qualify, the prizes will be reallocated by the commissioners. Managers will move up payout position(s) and any remaining funds will go into the trophy fund.

Treasurer will announce payouts and non-participants.

VIII Owners
As commissioners, we reserve the right NOT to extend an invitation to or remove any owner for any reason. Primary reason for being excluded would be abusive behavior (beyond friendly trash talk, harassment), purposeful rules violations (i.e. colluding on a trade), inactivity (i.e. leaving injured players in as starters repeatedly), unresponsive to other owners or commish(s), missing deadlines (i.e. keepers, draft picks, etc.). If an owner is NOT invited back next year. A new owner will be recruited to take over the vacated team in its exact state.

IX 2024 Draft Pick Trades:
# YYYY-MM-DD Sends-Rd For-Rd #Post

01 2023-10-14 GO-1 WWCBD-1 #80
02 2023-12-18 RSF-2 Tosh-4 #120
03 2023-12-25 WWCBD-(GO-1) Spida-6 #125
04 2023-12-28 Sanforders- 2 WWCBD-6 #none
05 2024-01-04 PermDude-5 RSF-3 #none
06 2024-01-05 Tosh-5&6 GO-3&(WWCBD-1) #131
07 2024-01-06 Tree-6 WG-1 #none
08 2024-01-08 BBtheBall-6 WG-2 #138
09 2024-01-11 GO-2 KnicksFan-6 #none
10 2024-01-30 skineej-2 ttucowboy-6 #none
11 2024-02-03 Rotoguru-6 WG-3 #none
12 2024-02-04 Bean-3 RSF-1 #none
13 2024-03-02 Bean-6 WG-4 #none

X League Champions:
2003 Peter N
2004 A Perfect 10
2005 Twarpy
2006 RecycledSpinalFluid
2007 beastiemiked
2008 beastiemiked
2009 Ref
2010 Pete N.
2011 Pacers Rule
2012 beastiemiked
2013 Great One
2014 WG
2015 Species
2016 Pete N.
2017 RecycledSpinalFluid
2018 RecycledSpinalFluid
2019 RecycledSpinalFluid
2020 RecycledSpinalFluid
2021 WG
2022 skinneej
2023 skinneej
2024 WG
 
1Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Wed, Sep 11, 2024, 10:10
2024 Final Standings:

Rank Points Team

01 150.0 Wazaaap Guy
02 142.0 WWCBD (tied)
02 142.0 Skinnee J's (tied)
04 134.0 RSF's Dead men walking
05 124.0 SANFORDORS
06 119.0 GO Sixers
07 112.0 Bean's Buckeyes
08 109.5 BB the Ball
09 107.5 youngroman's Luschen
10 098.0 Weekend Over
11 097.0 Philly Busters
12 087.0 Munson Mobsters
13 086.5 #DemBoyz Pour 1 out for Jamin
14 076.0 Spida
15 065.0 ttucowboy
16 061.0 KnicksFan
17 050.0 PT's Pleasant Team
18 049.0 Air Tosh
19 041.5 Fred's Team
20 039.0 Roto Guru20
 
2Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Wed, Sep 11, 2024, 10:16
Here is a Link to 2024-25 Draft Matrix. It reflects standings, lottery results,and pick trades through the end of last season. Let me know if you see any issues.
 
3Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Wed, Sep 11, 2024, 10:28
PROPOSED SCHEDULE

FRI 04 OCT Team Owners Locked
FRI 11 OCT 11:59 PM EDT Keeper Deadline
SUN 13 OCT Draft Turned ON
MON 14 OCT Clock Turned ON
TUE 22 OCT Regular Season Starts
 
4Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Wed, Sep 11, 2024, 10:32
I've renewed the league at Yahoo and will renew at Draft Time when basketball becomes available. I need all previous owners to let me know if they are returning. Please do not assume that if you are in Yahoo, I know your plan...SOUND OFF HERE.
 
5Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Wed, Sep 11, 2024, 10:33
I am IN.
 
6Perm Dude
      ID: 150252913
      Wed, Sep 11, 2024, 10:38
In
 
7KnicksFan
      ID: 568151110
      Wed, Sep 11, 2024, 11:15
In
 
8Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Sep 11, 2024, 11:40
In
 
9youngroman
      ID: 515013
      Wed, Sep 11, 2024, 14:02
In
 
10Fosten
      ID: 42831113
      Wed, Sep 11, 2024, 14:04
In
 
11Philly Busters
      ID: 82499
      Wed, Sep 11, 2024, 14:10
I'm in!
 
12RecycledSpinalFluid
      ID: 45103890
      Thu, Sep 12, 2024, 01:46
In
 
14BB the Ball
      ID: 528201215
      Thu, Sep 12, 2024, 16:20
I am in
 
15GO
      ID: 326121610
      Fri, Sep 13, 2024, 10:06
Ready to go.

Do we want to consider creating a Dischord like the other G20 leagues? I'm happy to organize it. I feel like its been a great success with those leagues. Easier for people to get alerts on their phones etc.
 
16Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Fri, Sep 13, 2024, 10:11
Does anyone not have access to Discord?
 
17WG
      ID: 587481812
      Fri, Sep 13, 2024, 11:28
In
 
18BB the Ball
      ID: 88141410
      Sat, Sep 14, 2024, 11:14
I don't currently have Discord but will figure it out if we want to go that route
 
19Tosh
      ID: 69302312
      Sun, Sep 15, 2024, 16:53
In
 
20Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Sun, Sep 15, 2024, 18:42
12/20 are returning so far:

Duff (aka WWCBD) told us last season he wasn't returning. I have a friend, who is a Nuggets season ticket holder, that is interested in taking over Duff's team.

We still need to hear from these seven owners:

02 142.0 Skinnee J's
05 124.0 SANFORDORS (aka DaveR)
10 098.0 Weekend Over (aka R-Money)
13 086.5 #DemBoyz Pour 1 out for Jamin (aka Tree)
14 076.0 Spida (aka Morgan, artofmonk)
15 065.0 ttucowboy (aka PeteN)
17 050.0 PT's Pleasant Team (aka twolves)

I'll try to reach out to them again. If you know them, ping them.
 
21R-Money
      ID: 32122023
      Sun, Sep 15, 2024, 18:43
I am back ty.
 
22Dave R
      ID: 268381519
      Sun, Sep 15, 2024, 20:38
I’m in
No idea what discord is
 
23Skinneej
      ID: 25851520
      Sun, Sep 15, 2024, 21:05
I’m back and ready for hoops!
 
24ttucowboy
      ID: 38852167
      Mon, Sep 16, 2024, 08:52
In
 
25 Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Mon, Sep 16, 2024, 09:30
16/20 returning now.

I am assuming my friend is the 17th, and nobody objects. He's a long time sports nut, but new to fantasy sports. If you have concerns, let me know.

So, just three left to confirm:
13 086.5 #DemBoyz Pour 1 out for Jamin (aka Tree)
14 076.0 Spida (aka Morgan, artofmonk)
17 050.0 PT's Pleasant Team (aka twolves)

Feel free to start wheeling and dealing.
 
26Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Mon, Sep 16, 2024, 09:41
<22>DaveR,

Discord is a very popular social media platform that has its origin amongst gamers. I've used the voice conferencing capability while raiding in Everquest, that feature was great. But the text and attachment capabilities are pretty good too. Most video games have a presence on Discord, that the game companies set up and possibly monitor.

If you are a news junky, you may have heard of Discord as the place where young military blabbermouths, spies and mass shooting braggarts are outing themselves.

Despite it's bad press, Discord would be a great place for someone to reproduce Guru's legacy, but a separate forum for each and every league will eventually lead to a loss of community we have here, I fear. Not sure people would find us if we were looking to grow the community on Discord, maybe someone else can speak to that.
 
27Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Sep 16, 2024, 11:29
I'm certainly willing to migrate to Discord. Frankly, this forum uses antiquated technology, and I will not be surprised if someday it simply ceases to function. So migrating to a supported platform with better functionality seems like a good idea.
 
28GO
      ID: 326121610
      Mon, Sep 16, 2024, 12:21
Just sent the email through the Yahoo channel to check in here + check out the Dischord outline i just created.
 
29BB the Ball
      ID: 338231612
      Mon, Sep 16, 2024, 13:23
Signed up for Discord no issues. I can’t seem to post however. “Different servers..” as the error?
 
30Tree
      ID: 328511613
      Mon, Sep 16, 2024, 14:51
I'm in.

and i'm all in on Discord...let's GOOOOOOOOOOO
 
31artofmonk
      ID: 247362016
      Mon, Sep 16, 2024, 16:55
i am in. Sorry for the hold up.
 
32twolves
      ID: 1863977
      Mon, Sep 16, 2024, 17:51
I am in for G20
 
33Tosh
      ID: 26881717
      Tue, Sep 17, 2024, 18:08
[27] - Guru --

Please try to give a heads up if you think that this old forum will be mothballed. I have 25 years of fantasy results on my 'forum registry' page I would need to save.

THANKS!
 
34Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Sep 23, 2024, 12:54
Tosh - I have no imminent plans to mothball the forum.

But if you have 25 years of data that you want to retain, I suggest that you at least copy it somewhere now, rather than waiting for an unexpected failure.

 
35 Bean
      ID: 12552510
      Wed, Sep 25, 2024, 09:50
I have renewed the draft at Draft Time. Please take the time to make sure you can log on there and that Gurupie 20 Hoops is in your list of active drafts.

Also, if you haven't already, join us in our new Discord channel. This is the link GO sent us via Yahoo League e-mail. We will be leaving this forum. Let me know if you are having issues joining us at Discord.

 
36GO
      ID: 326121610
      Mon, Sep 30, 2024, 09:34
Thanks Bean - Anyone not on Dischord yet, please let me know and i'll get you a fresh invite link.
 
37 Perm Dude
      ID: 150252913
      Thu, Oct 10, 2024, 16:38
Can you send me the link? I'm on the football one but not hoops, it seems. email above.