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Subject: Post rosters here.

  Posted by: Mecca - [389542719] Sat, Oct 27, 2001, 20:08
The old message was getting kind of long and many of the rosters have long since been changed. I'm interested in people's latest roster(s). Feel free to post. In case you were wondering:
G Steve Francis 9.7
G Speedy Claxton 2.00
G Brent Barry 4.49
G Adrian Griffin .5 (very well could change)

F Al Harrington 3.59
F Tom Gugliotta 3.55
F Antoine Walker 9.8 (walker->peja on the 2nd)
F Rashard Lewis 6.66

C Nazr Mohammed 4.04
C Jeff Foster 2.57

Value: 46.87
Left: 3.13

Your comments are appreciated.
 
1CableKC
      ID: 208571910
      Sat, Oct 27, 2001, 21:32 		I decided on this roster:

G - Jason Richardson - GSW - 4.83M
G - Speedy Claxton - PHI - 2.00M
G - Jamaal Tinsley - IND - 2.25M
G - Andre Miller - CLE - 8.72

F - Andrei Kirilenko - UTH - .50M
F - Rashard Lewis - SEA - 6.66M
F - Al Harrington - IND - 3.59M
F - Dirk Nowiztki - DAL - 9.43M

C - Jermaine O'Neal - IND - 7.77M
C - Chris Mihm - CLE - 2.67M

I am currently considering using Brent Barry instead of Jason Richardson. Both SEA and GSW has a decent schedule for the next 2 weeks.

I don't know...any thoughts?
 
2SweetGP20.
      ID: 499302219
      Sat, Oct 27, 2001, 21:57 		Team A:

Guards: McGrady/ Marbury/ Abdul-Wahad/ House
Forwards: Wallace/ Lewis/ Turkoglu/ Jermaine Jones
Centers: J.Oneal/Mihm


I don't plan to make any trades until I have 8 of them in the bank. I figured there's no point jumping on any banwagon in the first week since none of us will have seen them play enough to base our decisions upon. Since I'm not making any trades in the first week, I thought I might as well go with some big name players to ensure myself some SWP's. So I drated a few cheapies to go along with some studs (with decent schedules) who, with one good game, can earn +50 SWP & catch everyone's attention. I picked Tmac over Francis because Tmac is a better rebounder & a better shot blocker. And Francis isnt like those typical PG's who look to pass first & his assist number isn't high enough. I checked some fantasy hoop stats that I recorded down last season, Tmac had more +55 SWP games & while Francis has some nice +50 swp games, he also had quite a few -30 SWP ones.

I'll appreciate any opinions or comments on my team. Thanks!
 
3TaRhEElKiD
      ID: 6917619
      Sat, Oct 27, 2001, 21:59 		TaR HeeLs:

Gary Payton-Seattle-10.11
Steve Francis-Houston-9.7
Jamaal Tinsley-Indiana-2.25
Speedy Claxton-Philly-2.0

*Dirk N.-Dallas-9.43*
Rashard Lewis-Seattle-6.66
*Al Harrington-Indiana-3.59*
Kirilenko-Utah-.5

*Doleac-Cleveland-2.7*
MacCulloch-Philly-2.75

My thoughts...
*I had Peja instead of Dirk, but I upgrade anyway, and now have $310,000.*

*Harrington may be a move, because now that Tinsley is starting he isn't; he will be coming off the bench even though he got 37 minutes last night coming off the bench. He will probably move Foster to the bench and move baby O'neal to C and him to PF.*

*I have Doleac instead of Mihm because sportingnews thinks Skinner will take some minutes at PF, and Cleveland has no good backup C.*

What do you think?

The rosters above look pretty good also.

Only 3 days guys!
 
4SweetGP20.
      ID: 499302219
      Sat, Oct 27, 2001, 22:00 		And this is my second team:

Payton/ Terry/ Tinsley/ Abdul-Wahad
Lewis/ Marshall/ Al Harrington/ Jumaine Jones
J.Oneal/ Mihm


 
5DR Stars
      ID: 4211161321
      Sun, Oct 28, 2001, 00:25 		Here's one:
Payton, Gary
Francis, Steve
Barry, Brent
Tinsley, Jamal
Lewis, Rashard
Kemp, Shawn
Mason, Desmond
Jones, Jumaine
O'neal, Jermaine
Mihm, Chris

30k in the bank
 
6APerfect10
      ID: 209562716
      Sun, Oct 28, 2001, 00:45 		Re Post 3 :

Todd MacCulloch doesnt play for Philly anymore, he signed with NJ over the summer and should be their starting Center unlike in Philly where he backed up Mutombo.
 
7TaRhEElKiD
      ID: 6917619
      Sun, Oct 28, 2001, 01:06 		I know, I realized my mistake, knowing that people would know what I was talking about...sorry.

LOL, I know who he plays for.
 
8Senator Urine
      ID: 139332713
      Sun, Oct 28, 2001, 21:11 		I'm debating between two rosters right now, but I think I'm going with:

Francis, McGrady, Barry, Claxton
Lewis, Harrington, Coleman, Turkoglu
Wright, MacCullah

Or I could substitute Payton, Kirilenko, and Foster for Barry, Harrington, and Wright. I'm leaning towards the first one because it has much more chance to make money, but also a chance to lose more. But giving up Payton with that schedule always sucks. Any thoughts?
 
9Veracity
      ID: 2842102
      Sun, Oct 28, 2001, 23:08 		G Michael Jordan (prediction: HUGE opening day vs NY, fast price surge)
G Rod Strickland (I have two cheap bad-boy point-guards starting honeymoons with new teams, here's the other:)
G Jason Williams (Memphis needs to build a fan base and will encourage JW to play hotshot)
G Raja Bell (is producing well for beat-up Sixers, and is super-cheap)

F Danny Fortsen (crossing my fingers he starts this season like last season, pulling down 15 board a night, and that he stays healthy)
F Derrick Coleman (starting forward now, in good shape, looking to prove he's still an all-star; and only 3 million)
Hidayet Torkoglu (has the desire and talent to make an impact while Webber is out)
F Andrei Kirilenko (so many people on these boards are high on him; for 500 Gs I'll take a purchase a ticket on the money train)

C Jermaine O'Neal (he's good, and not as overpriced as most centers)
C Lorenzen Wright (great preseason, great price, great situation for him in Memphis).

5.5 million wait in the bank for the right moment to spring into action.
 
10mr g
      ID: 15311150
      Sun, Oct 28, 2001, 23:57 		put dc back in philly he's just going to piss on himself again, which is good it piss him off when he's not drunk, don't let him drive, he might kill someone, if u want a killer go to FL and grap OJ.
 
11rage_22
      ID: 159572414
      Mon, Oct 29, 2001, 02:00 		mr g-
Brilliant.
 
12DR Stars
      ID: 162592010
      Mon, Oct 29, 2001, 07:22 		Veracity, I just want to make sure you know your memphis players only have 9 games the first 3 weeks, when other teams have 12-13 games.
 
13havenbros
      Donor
      ID: 54930129
      Mon, Oct 29, 2001, 08:56 		One team, using cheap centers and a couple of $500Kers:

Payton, A. Griffin, Daniels, MJ
Gugliotta, Bender, A. Harrington, Jamison
Booth, Mihm

$3.5 left

still thinking about the IND forward situation and the Mihm/Doleac/Booth/MacCulloch choice
 
14culdeus
      Donor
      ID: 19232414
      Mon, Oct 29, 2001, 09:25 		At the start of the season do you start w/ 4 trades and get four more wed. making 8 at wednesday?
 
15Ender
      ID: 52438315
      Mon, Oct 29, 2001, 09:43 		8 trades as of post freeze next Tuesday, Nov. 6 the way I understand it.
 
16culdeus
      Donor
      ID: 19232414
      Mon, Oct 29, 2001, 10:03 		Ok, I get it. The basis for the schedule being broke out on a Wed. rotation is because the trades get handed out AFTER the Tue. Freeze, not because they hand out trades ON Wed.

Anyway, While I'm here

Payton/Francis/Tinsley/Claxton
Lewis/Gugli/JJ/Turkey
JOneal/Mihm
1.05M

I am content to sit tight here pending a switchup in Indy over Tinsley/AlH
 
17AllNatural
      ID: 439152410
      Mon, Oct 29, 2001, 13:30 		What do you guys think about the team below:

Payton, Gary
Jordan, Michael
Tinsley, Jamaal
Francis, Steve

Jones, Jumaine
Harrington, Al
Kemp, Shawn
Kirilenko, Andrei

MacCulloch, Todd
O'Neal, Jermaine
 
18havenbros
      Donor
      ID: 54930129
      Mon, Oct 29, 2001, 14:29 		AllNatural: same structural problem as was noted with several of the lineups in the earlier thread -- if you want to move into a big $$ forward you'll have to use 2 trades because you'll have to dump one of your big $$ guards to afford it. Better to balance things a little and convert one of the 3 stud guards into a stud forward to start.
 
19jshrauner
      ID: 50924281
      Mon, Oct 29, 2001, 15:08 		How many minutes do you think Stromile Swift will be getting this season. Looking at his numbers and Shane Battier's numbers, both are impressive per minute. Swift is averaging a TSNP/min. On the Grizzlies, there aren't many offensive players other than Jason Williams, and I struggle to call him a offensive player.

Jamal Tinsley: to buy or not. I believe he will be a money train if he puts up the numbers, but the question is will he get the minutes necassary for a rookie to get comfortable?
 
20DR Stars
      ID: 162592010
      Mon, Oct 29, 2001, 15:13 		I'll be looking at memphis players in about two weeks, when their schedule is about to get better, JWill, Shane Battier and Wright seem to be perfect candidates for a roster spot.

With tinsley you have to roll the dice and hope for the better, or go with Speedy claxton, and it's the same thing, but with less games to prove his worth. I'll probably go with both, to upgrade other positions.
 
21jshrauner
      ID: 50924281
      Mon, Oct 29, 2001, 15:23 		Thanks DR Stars...

I am playing the free version since this is my first year, and I would rather get my kicks the first year without spending any money. Here is my team.

Tinsley
McGrady

R. Wallace
Lewis

Mihm

What do you think. I really would like to catch a couple of money trains early to get a head start. Let me check my understanding. Do the prices change at freeze on Wend. or Wend. morning?

Thanks
 
22Memphis Fan
      ID: 539322613
      Mon, Oct 29, 2001, 15:38 		Is it me or are there way too many sleepers!

I dont know where to invest the extra cash!

.. gRRR! Anyone know of an expensive early
schedule "must have"?

btw. id wait on Memphis players, even tho Wright
is very sexy =)
 
23DR Stars
      ID: 162592010
      Mon, Oct 29, 2001, 15:56 		Memphis Fan, you have Payton, Vinsanity, Rasheed, Franchise, TMac, Grant Hill, Rose, Starbury, Dirk, Peja, Rashard Lewis, and similar mid to high priced players.
 
24Mecca
      ID: 389542719
      Mon, Oct 29, 2001, 16:35 		Here's my latest:

G Steve Francis 9.70
G Brent Barry 4.49
G Jamal Tinsley 2.25
G Speedy Claxton 2.00

F Antoine Walker 9.8
F Rashard Lewis 6.66
F Hidayet Turkoglu 2.60
F Jumaine Jones 1.66

C Jermaine O'Neal 7.77
C Doleac/Mihm *anyone know which to go with?*
 
25Peter N.
      Donor
      ID: 129402013
      Mon, Oct 29, 2001, 16:46 		Here's 1 of my 2:

Guards
Payton
Carter
Tinsley
Claxton


Jamison
Stojakovic
Kemp
Mason

Centers
Doleac
Tsakalidis

I have 750k in the bank and am pondering on downgrading Tsakalidis and upgrading Kemp or Mason before tomorrow's deadline.
 
26DR Stars
      ID: 162592010
      Mon, Oct 29, 2001, 16:55 		Mecca, I have Mihm before Doleac but it's debatable either way, what's your plan with Employee #8, when and to whom will you trade?

Peter N. Kemp and Mason are both solid picks, unlike my situation where I had Patterson thinking he was going to be great, and today I find out he's got to serve a 5 game suspension.
 
27SweetGP20
      ID: 3893224
      Mon, Oct 29, 2001, 16:56 		Peter N., personally I wouldn't draft Jamison 'cause I think he's a terrible fantasy hoop player.
 
28El Shagon
      ID: 299242814
      Mon, Oct 29, 2001, 17:11 		Free league:
Payton
Claxton
Lewis
Mason
J O'neal
 
29SweetGP20
      ID: 3893224
      Mon, Oct 29, 2001, 17:13 		unlike my situation where I had Patterson thinking he was going to be great, and today I find out he's got to serve a 5 game suspension.

LOL! =)
 
30Peter N.
      Donor
      ID: 129402013
      Mon, Oct 29, 2001, 17:16 		SweetGP20 - I agree, he wasn't the best fantasy forward out there, but he did get better as the season went on. I really see him stepping up this year for Golden State.(or maybe my Tar Heel Blue Pride is blinding me ;-)

Either way, you can't argue his schedule to start(4-4-4)
 
31 Ewing Oil
      ID: 449111715
      Mon, Oct 29, 2001, 17:18 		Just finished it today:

Glove (Good sched, points)
Jordan (Good points, possibly great..money train?)
Alvin Williams (Strong finish...good value)
Claxton (PT = production = $$$)

Al Harrington (Good prod. Cheap)
Turkey Glue (No C-Web = High Prod.)
Jumaine Jones (Great prod. for price.)
Kirilenko ($$$$)

Baby O'Neal (Great sched...points.)
Mihm ($$$$)
$4.41 Million left over.

ps - Any Guru divisions open. I'm a 3 year player, with Roster values consistently finishing over 93 Million?
 
32SweetGP20
      ID: 3893224
      Mon, Oct 29, 2001, 17:24 		Speaking of Tar Heel Blue Pride.....how about Rasheed Wallace? :)

He has a better schedule than Jamison in the first 2 weeks (5-4-3). With the new rule change it should benefit the big men that can shoot, although I'm not sure how big of an effect it's gonna have. But Sheed put up quite a few +50 SWP games last season and at 8.5 mil I'd say he's underpriced.

I'd also go with Kemp since Patterson is going to serve the 5-game suspension to start off the season.
 
33Burnettsville
      Donor
      ID: 319362319
      Mon, Oct 29, 2001, 17:30 		DR Stars, I have employee #8. I plan on trading him on 11/2 (pm) for Peja. One trade for two extra games.
 
34smallwhirled
      ID: 157582113
      Mon, Oct 29, 2001, 17:41 		I think that I'm gonna go with one symmetrical and one asymmetrical.

The asymetrical one will be stacked with guards.....Payton, T-Mac, Rose possibility with fowards that are much cheaper.

BTW Kukoc is gonna be my weapon early on, and he will be an early mainstay on both teams.

The other one will try to be more symmetrical, but it will be tough b/c the "big" F's have unfavorable sked's. Would probably throw Jamison/Peja and probably Duncan.

Can I get a favor from some of the Shelby-villianites?

Which would you prefer from me to be represented:
asymmetrical or symmetrical???
Thanks a bunch.

smallwhirled
 
35Sandlot
      Donor
      ID: 59832108
      Mon, Oct 29, 2001, 17:59 		$10.11 Gary Payton
$ 9.70 Tracy McGrady
$ 2.00 Speedy Claxton
$ 2.25 Jamaal Tinsley

$ 6.66 Rashard Lewis
$ 3.59 Al Harrington
$ 3.55 Tom Gugliotta
$ 1.64 Jumaine Jones

$ 7.77 Jermaine O'Neal
$ 2.67 Chris Mihm

almost spent every nickle - only .06 left over
 
36Mecca
      ID: 389542719
      Mon, Oct 29, 2001, 18:44 		Burnettsville: DITTO. AWalker is tooo good to pass up on for the first few games.
 
37BoNkA
      Donor
      ID: 46314305
      Mon, Oct 29, 2001, 19:02 		smallwhired: I don't think there is a reason to do either one. You can't look at drafting a roster like that, you just take the best players available by looking at their schedules and depending on how much money you have to spend and what kind of production you will get out of it.

So really...the gaurd scheme looks better right now, but I'm just trying to say to not look at stacking guards vs stacking forwards (hopefully you aren't thinking of it like that), just go after the most production.

I think I can say almost anyone here can tell you that very easily :)
 
38Peter N.
      Donor
      ID: 129402013
      Mon, Oct 29, 2001, 19:19 		SweetGP20 - I took a hard look at 'Sheed, but decided to go with Jamison largely due to already having Kemp. Definitely considering him on my other team though....
 
39Hi
      ID: 439152410
      Mon, Oct 29, 2001, 20:55 		how about

Todd MacCullach
Chris Mihm
Rasheed Wallace
Andre Kirlienko
Shawn Kemp
Dirk Nowitzki
Jamaal Tinsley
Speedy Claxton
Steve Francis
Tracy McGrady

 
40TaRhEElKiD
      ID: 6917619
      Mon, Oct 29, 2001, 21:12 		Guys, as mentioned before in posts #'s 30 and 32 let's talk some more about the baby blue and Carolina pride!

Tar Heel born, Tar Heels bred, and when I die I will be a Tar Heel dead!

One team...TaR HeeLs!

G-Payton, Francis, Barry, and Claxton
F-Peja, Lewis, Harrington, and Kirilenko
C-MacCulloch and Mihm

1 more day! Good luck to all, and here is to a great season!
 
41absolut_cdi
      ID: 219421020
      Mon, Oct 29, 2001, 22:37 		francis jordan tinsley griffin/bell
walker harrington kirilenko gugliotta
oneal foster

francis mcgrady barry williams
wallace turkaglu jones kirilenko
wright mihm
 
42YOUNGBUCK
      ID: 89202922
      Mon, Oct 29, 2001, 22:43 		most people seem to be going with expensive guards and cheap forwards. why is this? Walker, Duncan etc.
 
43rockafellerskank
      Donor
      ID: 4911539
      Mon, Oct 29, 2001, 22:53 		Walker & Duncan have poor schedules to begin the season:

Boston (Walker): 1-3-2-2
SaS (Duncan): 1-4-3-1-3

Other expensive F's:

Webber: IR
Garnett: 1-3-3-3-3-3-3
Pierce: see Walker
Dirk: 1-4-2-4-4 (Dirk is a possibility IMO)
Jamison: 0-4-4-4 (ditto)
Odom: 1-3-3
Robinson/Mason: 1-2-2-2
Martin/VanHorn: 1-3-3-3
Grant Hill: 1-4-3-3 (maybe OK, but ankle concerns)
Marion: 1-4-3-3 (maybe OK)
R Wallace: 1-4-4-3 (I think the best F possibilty)
Malone: 1-4-3-3-3


As you can see, there aren't alot of atractive L/T holds at F.

rfs








 
44absolut_cdi
      ID: 219421020
      Mon, Oct 29, 2001, 22:54 		early off the schedule has me rotating stud guards and holding midranged forwards
 
45KevinL
      Donor
      ID: 48721523
      Mon, Oct 29, 2001, 23:36 		Payton, $10110
Francis, $9700
B Barry, $4490
Tinsley, $2250

Nowitzki, $9430
A Harrington, $3590
J Jones, $1640
Kirilenko, $500

Cato, $3800
Mihm, $2670
 
46Hi
      ID: 439152410
      Tue, Oct 30, 2001, 02:30 		how about

Todd MacCullach
Chris Mihm
Rasheed Wallace
Andre Kirlienko
Shawn Kemp
Dirk Nowitzki
Jamaal Tinsley
Speedy Claxton
Steve Francis
Tracy McGrady

 
47DR Stars
      ID: 162592010
      Tue, Oct 30, 2001, 07:43 		By the look of things, not many are concerned with TMac's bad back, I have shied away from him, but will pick him up later in the season.
 
48J
      Sustainer
      ID: 47937310
      Tue, Oct 30, 2001, 09:48 		no one is starting with Shaq???????

What's wrong with you people? Don't you know the first rule of SW? (Never miss a Pedro or Randy start)

How about the 2nd rule of SW? Never miss a Shaq game!
 
49DR Stars
      ID: 162592010
      Tue, Oct 30, 2001, 10:25 		J feel free to draft Shaq, we'll see you there later.
 
50Wally
      ID: 25963010
      Tue, Oct 30, 2001, 10:31 		has anyone checked out Quentin Richardson from the LA Clippers. He looks like a good pick to me.
 
51Erik B.
      ID: 239592612
      Tue, Oct 30, 2001, 10:41 		I'm taking Shaq from the get-go in one of my teams. I need all the help I can get going up against the Gurupies.

-ESB
 
52Blooki
      ID: 359321514
      Tue, Oct 30, 2001, 10:45 		Wally
Q looked good in the preseason, but he's going to be fighting for minutes (Pike, Maggette, and even Odom will see time at the 2) early on in the season methinks and will be unable to match the production that we see now. Later on in the season, his performance will probably earn him more PT and that's when I'll take a look at him. Right now, I think Gentry wants Pike in there because he's a 3-point specialist. If Q or Maggette develop their shot from beyond the arc, their natural talent and athleticism should give them the edge for more time.

Just my 2 cents.
 
53absolut_cdi
      ID: 219421020
      Tue, Oct 30, 2001, 10:46 		i'm thinking shaq by the 15th on one team

more games and his price should be down a little i would think
 
54smallwhirled
      ID: 157582113
      Tue, Oct 30, 2001, 10:54 		Alright, I've got two with two different strategies.

A:
G Team Next Game Last Total Sell For:
Payton, Gary SEA 10/30 @ SAC 0 3326 10,110,000
Williams, Alvin TOR 10/30 @ ORL 0 1959 5,710,000
Tinsley, Jamaal IND 10/30 @ NJN 0 0 2,250,000
Claxton, Speedy PHI 10/30 @ MIN 0 0 2,000,000
F
Wallace, Rasheed POR 10/30 @ LAL 0 2839.5 8,580,000
Stojakovic, Predrag SAC 10/30 SEA 0 2262 6,750,000
Kukoc, Toni ATL 10/30 @ HOU 0 1351.5 4,790,000
Jones, Jumaine CLE 10/30 BOS 0 635.5 1,640,000
C
Mohammed, Nazr ATL 10/30 @ HOU 0 902 4,040,000
MacCulloch, Todd NJN 10/30 IND 0 508 2,750,000

Trying to be symmetric, and ended up choosing Wallace to be my stud F out of the bunch. Should be easy for me to grab an early train or two, if need be.

B:
G Team Next Game Last Total Sell For:
Payton, Gary SEA 10/30 @ SAC 0 3326 10,110,000
McGrady, Tracy ORL 10/30 TOR 0 3401 9,700,000
Rose, Jalen IND 10/30 @ NJN 0 2549 8,190,000
Claxton, Speedy PHI 10/30 @ MIN 0 0 2,000,000
F
Davis, Dale POR 10/30 @ LAL 0 1749.5 5,050,000
Kukoc, Toni ATL 10/30 @ HOU 0 1351.5 4,790,000
Harrington, Al IND 10/30 @ NJN 0 1267 3,590,000
Kirilenko, Andrei UTA 10/30 MIL 0 0 500,000
C
MacCulloch, Todd NJN 10/30 IND 0 508 2,750,000
Mihm, Chris CLE 10/30 BOS 0 865.5 2,670,000

Stacking the studs at guard. Gonna try to do some racking up with Payton, T-Mac, and Rose. Will be a little tougher though to make a transition to a stud F/C.

Good Luck, and I wish everyone a great season!
 
55mIST
      ID: 389452315
      Tue, Oct 30, 2001, 12:09 		My teams:

Mistesota Sparklehorses (Spaghetti, Pizza and Hoops)

Steve Francis (Hou), 9.700
Brent Barry (Sea), 4.490
Adrian Griffin (Dal), 0.500
Jamaal Tinsley (Ind), 2.250

Rashard Lewis (Sea), 6.660
Shawn Kemp (Por), 2.420
Antoine Walker (Bos), 9.800
Tom Gugliotta (Pho), 3.550

Jermaine O'neal (Ind) 7.770
Chris Mihm (Cle), 2.670

(190.000 left)


Mistwaukee Strokes (rotoguru.com)

Gary Payton (Sea), 10.110
Anfernee Hardaway (Pho), 5.900
Kobe Bryant (Lal), 10.250
Wesley Person (Cle), 2.150

Rasheed Wallace (Por), 8.580
Jumaine Jones (Cle), 1.640
Al Harrington (Ind), 3.590
Andrei Kirilenko (Uta), 0.500

Todd MacCulloch (Njn), 2.750
Calvin Booth (Sea), 3.480

(1.050.000 left)

 
56mIST
      ID: 389452315
      Tue, Oct 30, 2001, 12:24 		Oops...just read of Griffin's injury, god bless that roster freeze delay :)
So, on team #1 I have Raja Bell instead of Griffin and Paul Pierce instead of Walker, 600k remaining.
 
57Janitor
      ID: 489143011
      Tue, Oct 30, 2001, 12:31 		I'm having trouble deciding on my last forward spot: I have almost 4 mil to spend. I'm considering:

1. Al Harrington: good schedule, good upside, lost starting job
2. Jumaine Jones: cheap, did well in preseason, not a starter
3. Kirilenko: very cheap, upside, scores in many statistical catagories, playing time unknown
4. Shawn Kemp: played well in preseason, good schedule
5. Tom Googs: starter, former all star
6. Derrick Coleman: poor schedule, will get alot of minutes, used to be good

If you don't mind helping, who out of these players would you choose on your roster? Thanks.
 
58rockafellerskank
      Donor
      ID: 36910309
      Tue, Oct 30, 2001, 12:46 		Janitor:

F Hidayet Turkoglu 2.60


I know he's not only your list, but that would be my choice w/o knowing any more about your team. He is starting until Webber returns.

rfs
 
59Skip to My Lou
      ID: 23942316
      Tue, Oct 30, 2001, 13:16 		I know this sounds crazy, but with all the uncertainty at the back-up center position, is anyone thinking of drafting Felton Spencer?

I'm nuts, right?

But check this out. Spencer is the starting center on a team with a decent schedule to start out (not great, but decent). He's also $500k or about $1.5 less than any other viable alternative. And he's playing on a team with only one other player taller than 6'10" and that player is, horror of horrors, Travis Knight.

Bottom line: Spencer has to play 25-30 minutes a night. During the preseason, he scored 81.5 SWP in 112 minutes. If you extrapalate that number over his projected playing time, he should get between 18 to 21 per night, which, at $500k, is more than enough production to cover the slot.

The left over money comes in handy, too. I would be able to upgrade Al Harrington to Rashard Lewis with the savings, if I go the Spencer route.

Thoughts?
 
60Blooki
      ID: 359321514
      Tue, Oct 30, 2001, 13:36 		Skip
Othella Harrington is projected to see a great deal of time at the 5.
 
61DR Stars
      ID: 162592010
      Tue, Oct 30, 2001, 13:39 		Skip to my Lou, I was thinking the same thing, but the Knicks allways score low, will probably go small-ball for a while, and I am not comfortable with FS on my team. i'll keep an eye out for him anyways.
 
62 Ceelo
      ID: 159182613
      Tue, Oct 30, 2001, 13:40 		I currently have:
The Glove
Speedy C.
Rainman
R. Lewis
Little O'Neal

Who is (or was) a better initial pick...Rainman or TurkeyGlu...
 
63Ref
      ID: 1442849
      Tue, Oct 30, 2001, 13:49 		Rafer, errrr Skip, Unless Spencer is going to step up on defense like a Camby--he won't do much offensively. I'm not betting he does much on either with the exception of a few boards. OF course I don't bet at all so who knows right ? ;)
 
64Big Shots
      ID: 567412915
      Tue, Oct 30, 2001, 13:54 		Skip,

Felton is risky. Take a look at Boumje Boumje in Portland. He wont start, but he may get you the same production as Spencer.
 
65warriors
      ID: 32914319
      Tue, Oct 30, 2001, 13:55 		why would anyone pick up claxton over tinsley? claxton's schedule is not even decent (1-3-3-3-3) compared to tinsley (1-4-4-4-4).
 
66Tree
      ID: 599393013
      Tue, Oct 30, 2001, 14:02 		my two teams...
RVD's Splash!

G
McGrady, Tracy ORL 9,700,000
Carter, Vince TOR 9,510,000
Alexander, Courtney WAS 3,390,000
Bell, Raja PHI 840,000
F
Brand, Elton LAC 8,600,000
Peterson, Morris TOR 3,380,000
Bender, Jonathan IND 500,000
Kirilenko, Andrei UTA 500,000
C
Mutombo, Dikembe PHI 8,060,000
Battie, Tony BOS 2,970,000


RVD's Spudfest!
G
Nash, Steve DAL 7,150,000
Kittles, Kerry NJN 4,810,000
Delk, Tony PHO 4,380,000
Anderson, Kenny BOS 3,800,000
F
Walker, Antoine BOS 9,800,000
Pierce, Paul BOS 9,050,000
Peterson, Morris TOR 3,380,000
Bender, Jonathan IND 500,000
C
Battie, Tony BOS 2,970,000
Eschmeyer, Evan DAL 2,700,000


ok, i know there are some overlaps, and no, i'm definitely NOT a Celtic fan, that's just how these lineups worked out...

Tree

 
68rockafellerskank
      Donor
      ID: 36910309
      Tue, Oct 30, 2001, 14:07 		Tree- BOS? You may be forced to sell 4 players after their opening 4 in 5 days.

Just FYI

rfs
 
69CanEHdian Pride
      ID: 426351415
      Tue, Oct 30, 2001, 14:08 		I posted somewhere that I wasn't going to be starting the season with Shaq but upon some discussion with an esteemed Gurupie I have realized that you gotta hit up Shaq for the first week. After some roster tweakin' I'm ready to go. Feel free to freeze things up anytime fellas!
 
70Mikel @ school
      ID: 239253012
      Tue, Oct 30, 2001, 14:16 		warriors...the reason why people are taking Claxton over Jaamal is because Clax has

A. been scoring more TSNP then Tinsley in preseason.

B. He should play alot more...Tinsley has Travis Best coming off the bench who in the end will probably see more playing time then tinsley will.

C. Dare i say, Costs less. Yes i know its only .25 mil but that still can be a factor for some.

Just my thoughts
 
71Janitor
      ID: 549233014
      Tue, Oct 30, 2001, 14:26 		thanks rfs, but i already have him. how about the players i listed who would you take? thanks.
 
72J
      Sustainer
      ID: 47937310
      Tue, Oct 30, 2001, 14:29 		I'd take Googs.
 
73warriors
      ID: 32914319
      Tue, Oct 30, 2001, 14:30 		hm... so it comes down to whether you think tinsley's 4 games production could or could not match with claxton's 3 games production...
 
74DR Stars
      ID: 162592010
      Tue, Oct 30, 2001, 14:31 		Janitor, I like Kirilenko and Jones, if nothing else they're cheaper. More upside.

Tree, stay away from 3 Boston playeras, I can understand if you want 1, but not 3... too many wasted trades IMO. Also, J. Oneal is a better choice than Mutombo.
 
75Next Level
      ID: 39123014
      Tue, Oct 30, 2001, 14:31 		I currently have (free game):

Jamaal TInsley
Eddie House

Antoine Walker
Al Harrington

Chris Mihm

with 11.19 mil TSN/SWD left over...
dunno what to do about my guards...
any thoughts?? ^^;
 
76Kings Fan
      ID: 89352914
      Tue, Oct 30, 2001, 14:35 		After changing my roster a million times, I ended up with the following (free teams):

Rose, Jalen IND
Claxton, Speedy PHI
Peterson, Morris TOR
Jamison, Antawn GSW
Wright, Lorenzen MEM

Terry, Jason ATL
Claxton, Speedy PHI
Wallace, Rasheed POR
Gugliotta, Tom PHO
O'Neal, Jermaine IND

I didn't pull the trigger on Tinsley because he probably won't get enough minutes to justify the slot. As soon as he throws up a few TO's, Best will be back in the starting slot.
 
77Janitor
      ID: 549233014
      Tue, Oct 30, 2001, 14:37 		J and DR Stars thanks for the input. Googs, Kirilenko, and Jones are intriguing but I'd probably have to trade out of them after a week or so. I could keep Harrington and save a trade. I'm leaning towards doing that, but I don't want to miss out on any $ trains either as Kirilenko and Jones could prove to be.

???
 
78Ref
      ID: 1442849
      Tue, Oct 30, 2001, 14:44 		I just read on cbs sportsline that rodney rogers will likely get the starting nod over Googs unless Skiles changes his mind and goes w/o a center and plays them both.
 
79warriors
      ID: 32914319
      Tue, Oct 30, 2001, 14:53 		thanks for the input.

I ended up with the following for the free team:

Glove SEA
Claxton PHI
Patterson POR
Jones CLE
O'neal IND
 
80Blooki
      ID: 359321514
      Tue, Oct 30, 2001, 15:01 		warriors,
Just FYI. Patterson is serving a 5 game suspension. I recommend against drafting him.
 
81Y2JS
      ID: 48312723
      Tue, Oct 30, 2001, 15:01 		Patterson starts off with a 5 game suspension no? TRADE TRADE TRADE! LOL
 
82warriors
      ID: 32914319
      Tue, Oct 30, 2001, 15:03 		thanks...
patterson --> Lewis (SEA)
 
83El Shagon
      ID: 299242814
      Tue, Oct 30, 2001, 15:15 		Free league now looks like this:
Claxton (phi)
Glove (Sea)
Walker (Bos)-->Peja on Sat.
Jones (Cle)
MacCulloch (Njn)-->J O'neal on Sat.
3.7 million in da bank...
 
84warriors
      ID: 32914319
      Tue, Oct 30, 2001, 15:50 		no one seems to pick up Fortson who has a good schedule (0-4-4-4).

 
85smallwhirled
      ID: 119491116
      Tue, Oct 30, 2001, 15:51 		BoNkA post #37:

I just wanted to get a little insight on which team you guys thought that I should put into the division.

I ended up throwing the more balanced team there. If your team is unbalanced then your options become much slimmer. Just like some guys getting stcuk with Cloutier in Hockey with trades, but no one worth moving into.

Yes, I look at skeds.
Yes, I look for production.
and most of all I think that everyone will be surprised about the steal that Shelby-villian got at #41.

That's my $.02 on that subject.
 
86Knightmare
      ID: 74342318
      Tue, Oct 30, 2001, 15:57 		Hey Ref,
Could you post the link about Gugliotta?
 
87rockafellerskank
      Donor
      ID: 4911539
      Tue, Oct 30, 2001, 16:09

CAMP BATTLE

Rogers has made the battle up front interesting. It's apparent that Gugliotta will be the starter at power forward, although coach Scott Skiles has yet to make it official. He started all eight preseason games.

But Rogers has shot the ball more as he did two years ago when he was the league's top reserve, hitting more than 50 percent of his three-point shots. Jake Tsakalidis, meanwhile, missed time because of a death in his wife's family, then missed two of the last three preseason games after complaining of chest pains. Tests were negative, and he was cleared to play but didn't get into a game against Golden State and didn't start in the preseason finale.

It's possible, according to Skiles, that he will change his lineup according to matchups, starting three forwards in some situations and starting Tsakalidis in others. Rogers' ability to shoot from the perimeter can pull opposing big men out from under the basket, and he's quick enough to take them off the dribble if they play him too tightly.

stuff about Gugs & rogers and the Suns from TSN

rfs
 
88Senator Urine
      ID: 139332713
      Tue, Oct 30, 2001, 16:54 		Just changed my roster right at the end.

Gary payton
Tracy mcgrady
Brent barry
Speedy claxton
Rashard lewis
Al harrington
Derrick coleman
Hidayet turkoglu
Lorenzen wright
Chris mihm

Switched Francis and Mac for Payton and Mihm. Hopefully I don't regret this, you know Francis is going off for a triple double tonight.
 
89Ender
      ID: 13443221
      Tue, Oct 30, 2001, 20:42 		I hope he does, I have him x3, thanks in advance :)