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- [29121518] Thu, Oct 24, 2002, 23:07
Let's get back to basketball for some fine tuning of rosters.
I've made a few injury related changes. I'm dropping Webber for Duncan, and Giricek for Ginobili. Here's my roster:
Kobe
TMac
Jaric
Ginobili
Duncan
Garnett
Gooden
Radmanovic
Woods
McCoy
Still don't know about Ginoboli. I'm thinking about changing Radman. for M. Bradley, so I can upgrade from Gino to Palacio (is that's an upgrade?) and have a little flexibility cash. What do you guys think? |
| | | 1 | grEEr
ID: 15901611
Thu, Oct 24, 2002, 23:24
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yeah, why are people so high on GINO, he as proved nothing.
Gooden may not be such a great pick as he will be heavily drafted.
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| | | 2 | grEEr
ID: 15901611
Thu, Oct 24, 2002, 23:28
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more of a balanced apprach, WHAT DO U GUYS THINK???
G Jackson, Bobby SAC $4,040,000
G Hudson, Troy ORL $3,880,000
FG Maggette, Corey $3,030,000
G Alexander, Courtney $2,420,000
F Duncan, Tim SA $12,100,000
F Garnett, Kevin MIN $11,100,000
F Miles, Darius CLE $5,610,000
F Brown, Kwame WAS $2,320,000
CF Clark, Keon SAC $4,420,000
C McCoy, Jelani LAL $500,000
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| | | 3 | qwert
ID: 29121518
Thu, Oct 24, 2002, 23:41
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If the wolves sign strickland, hudson becomes pretty expensive for split time, at best.
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| | | 4 | Ender
ID: 13443221
Thu, Oct 24, 2002, 23:44
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The flip side of the heavily drafted argument is that he could just as easily (or actually, appears more likely to be) an underpriced player that you can not do without (think Gasol last year, you know you wish you had drafted him on ALL teams last year). You are more likely to have to burn a trade to pick him up at a higher price than to burn one to sell him at a lower price.
I won't tell you what to do, but I'll be putting him on my teams.
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| | | 5 | grEEr
ID: 15901611
Fri, Oct 25, 2002, 00:02
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yeah, hudson is a little risky now.
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| | | 6 | qwert
ID: 29121518
Fri, Oct 25, 2002, 00:03
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There are a few guys on my team that I'm sure of and Gooden is one of them. These guys will be on my team to start, for sure.
Duncan
Garnett
Gooden
McCoy
I'm pretty sure about Kobe and T Mac, but I may do without one of them in order to get some balance.
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| | | 7 | grEEr
ID: 15901611
Fri, Oct 25, 2002, 00:13
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McCoy is the old good option at center, save WOODS but that's a risk.
If webber is out this roster will be good:
-extremly good chance of making huge $$$ gains and well as points.
G Arenas, Gilbert $4,940,000
G Jackson, Bobby $4,040,000
FG Maggette, Corey $3,030,000
G Palacio, Milt CLE $1,110,000
F Duncan, Tim $12,100,000
F Garnett, Kevin $11,100,000
F Miles, Darius $5,610,000
F Brown, Kwame $2,320,000
CF Clark, Keon SAC $4,420,000
C McCoy, Jelani LAL $500,000
of WEBBER IS HEALTHY it will change. I hope he is healthy becasue i have a killer roster taht involves him. Duncan is so expensive damn, it's hard to BARBELL with him and still remain effective at the other PO's
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| | | 8 | grEEr
ID: 15901611
Fri, Oct 25, 2002, 00:14
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note: $830 in the bank (kwame > gooden) is available.
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| | | 9 | grEEr
ID: 15901611
Fri, Oct 25, 2002, 00:17
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If Webber is around this will be good:
G Kidd, Jason NJ $10,260,000
G McGrady, Tracy $9,750,000
G Palacio, Milt $1,110,000
G Jaric, Marko $500,000
F Garnett, Kevin $11,100,000
F Webber, Chris $10,660,000
F Radmanovic, Vladimir $2,420,000
F Brown, Kwame WAS $2,320,000
C Woods, Loren MIN $860,000
C McCoy, Jelani $500,000
What do u guy's think of my roster...???
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| | | 10 | TwoPumps
ID: 21058102
Fri, Oct 25, 2002, 04:00
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Hey great night for the cheapies!
Palacio: 11pts 7 asssists 2 steals
T.Murphy 15pts 13 boards 3 steals(second solid start...for some reason I feel its just a matter time before people start calling him T-MURF...kinda like a SMURF...ok I'm loosing it!)
Arenas: 6pts, 5 boards, 11 assists, 3 steals, 2 blocks
Satterfield: 17pts, 6 assists, 2 steals
McCoy 10 pts 9 boards 2 blocks 2 steals
Gadzuric: 8pts 13 rebounds 3 blocks (I hear he might start in Milaukee with Pryzbilla out, could be a good cheapie option outside of Blount, McCoy and Woods if he lands the starting nod)
even Glen Rice: 15pts and 4 Rebounds
Its nice having all these good cheapie options!
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| | | 11 | TwoPumps
ID: 21058102
Fri, Oct 25, 2002, 04:18
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Hey just looking at some of Gadzuric last few games...when this guy has gotten the minutes he has really produced. He is actually averaging more points on average then McCoy. Does anyone know more about this guy and the center situation in Milwaukee?
Also anyone know what the deal is with Danny Fortson?. This guy was a monster on the boards a few years back? Just wondering where he is and if there is any chance he will cut into T-Murf's(lets see if the nickname sticks :) )minutes
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| | | 12 | TwoPumps
ID: 21058102
Fri, Oct 25, 2002, 04:24
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Last thought before I hit the sack....
What are people deciding to do with Miles?. His overall schedule to start the year is great, making him a good long term hold...but does his 1 in 5 during the first week, keep him off most opening day roster?...
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| | | 13 | The Velvet Smog
ID: 5285182
Fri, Oct 25, 2002, 04:27
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I was looking at miles, then davis...thought it was all to hard and went else where..!!!
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| | | 14 | Micheal
ID: 11935222
Fri, Oct 25, 2002, 04:51
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I've seen some people have soured on McCoy because of his 2 sub par games but seem to be high on Woods. Over the last 5 games Woods has outscored him 108 - 100. 360K for an extra 1.5 points a game. I guess people see a 6 and 13 and want to bail, but for 500K your not exactly buying consistency.
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| | | 15 | Smellcheese
ID: 1544485
Fri, Oct 25, 2002, 05:47
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Hey is anyone looking at Jamison as an option, I know he is coming off a terrible year but he is Golden States's no. 1 guy and their schedule is great. His performance in the preseason hasn't been too bad either. Or would it be safer to go with Hill or Miles?
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| | | 16 | Micheal
ID: 11935222
Fri, Oct 25, 2002, 06:39
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I don't think Jamison will be on anyones opening day roster. If he is I think it will only be because of GS schedule. He is 13th in snp/g, but he will have to have a serious run for me to even consider him. He has the game to just blow up every night, but for some reason he doesn't. To streaky for me. I expect that from 500k, not almost 7M.
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| | | 17 | Doug
Sustainer
ID: 3411223
Fri, Oct 25, 2002, 07:58
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McGrady, Tracy G ORL $9,750,000
Jackson, Bobby G SAC $4,040,000
Maggette, Corey F G LAC $3,030,000
Satterfield, Kenny G DEN $1,020,000
Garnett, Kevin F MIN $11,100,000
Miles, Darius F CLE $5,610,000
Gooden, Drew F MEM $3,000,000
Radmanovic, Vladimir F SEA $2,420,000
Wallace, Ben F C DET $8,870,000
McCoy, Jelani C TOR $500,000
Cash Remaining: $660,000
Other guys on my radar screen to possibly swap in:
Alexander, Courtney G NOH $2,420,000
Palacio, Milt G CLE $1,110,000
Murphy, Troy F GSW $2,680,000
Nowitzki, Dirk F C DAL $9,170,000
Ilgauskas, Zydrunas C CLE $4,850,000
Nowitzki could be swapped in for Wallace, but Wallace
has a slightly better opening schedule and keeps more
cash free.
Another option is to put in Ilgauskas instead of Miles
and move Wallace (or Nowitzki) to the F.
Finally, I had a roster with Palacio/Nowitzki in place of
Jackson/Miles which was nice because it gave me 2
F/Cs to work with... the only problem was that with
$30,000 cash there's extremely little wiggle room...
though I could also swap the heavily drafted Gooden
for Murphy and free up an additional $320k in that
case.
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| | | 18 | Hamid Toliyat
ID: 3893549
Fri, Oct 25, 2002, 09:07
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Doug- I think Maggette is hurt.
Anyone considering Pau?
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| | | 19 | smartone
Donor
ID: 29135714
Fri, Oct 25, 2002, 16:36
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does anyone have a statistic that shows McGrady's production when Grant Hill plays? (not that many games...)
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| | | 20 | MK
ID: 293452016
Fri, Oct 25, 2002, 17:07
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Hey guys-
A few of you seem to be high on Troy Murphy as a sleeper. Just realize that a lot of playing time at forward will be going to Jamison and Dunleavy. Plus, add Fortson (who they might be shopping around) to the mix and it looks doubtful for Murphy to get much pt. Here's my roster so far:
Jason Williams
Derek Anderson
Szcerbiak
Bobby Jackson
Abdur-Rahim
Rasheed Wallace
Jermaine O'Neal
Gooden
Marc Jackson
M Blount
with 1.23 million left over...
Alright, good luck y'all! MIKE
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| | | 21 | Micheal
ID: 12744225
Fri, Oct 25, 2002, 18:14
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Too many damn Mikes around here.
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| | | 22 | Doug
Sustainer
ID: 3411223
Fri, Oct 25, 2002, 20:18
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Not considering Pau, and from what I heard on the radio sports show yesterday it sounded like Maggette's injury (sprained shoulder) was not at all serious and he should be good to go for the season opener... has anyone heard otherwise? Anyway, that's why I included my list of alternates... I can still swap one of those guys for Maggette if it turns out to be necessary.
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| | | 23 | TaRhEElKiD
ID: 42109719
Fri, Oct 25, 2002, 21:20
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Hudson looks good tonight. Have they signed Rod yet, and anybody know when it will happen?
Areanas also looks good, but dear lord...is he not too expensive?
THK
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| | | 25 | p...
ID: 1545375
Fri, Oct 25, 2002, 21:58
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I dont think Arenas is too expensive. I have already picked him up on one of my teams. I think he is one of the better mid-range guards available.
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| | | 26 | Micheal
ID: 12744225
Fri, Oct 25, 2002, 22:24
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I don't think Arenas is too exspesive either. I have him on 2 of 3 teams and am expecting a nice season from him.
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| | | 27 | TaRhEElKiD
ID: 42109719
Fri, Oct 25, 2002, 22:30
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All...I posted this in the other thread also:
Billups or Arenas (I saw how much $$$ I had after the changes I made, and re-thought)?
I have 2 teams...split the difference. Or double up on 1 of them for both teams...? I believe Billups is solid and a better pick, but Arenas has a 5 wk the first wk and could really come back to bite me.
THK
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| | | 28 | waterboy
ID: 189102520
Fri, Oct 25, 2002, 22:48
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Does anyone have an update on Webber's fitness?
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| | | 29 | TaRhEElKiD
ID: 42109719
Fri, Oct 25, 2002, 22:54
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They just said they expect to have him on Opening Day. I am sure he will be fine, but the risk is up to you.
THK
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| | | 30 | waterboy
ID: 189102520
Fri, Oct 25, 2002, 22:59
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In that case do you thing Keon Clark is a good option?
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| | | 31 | Smellcheese
ID: 1544485
Fri, Oct 25, 2002, 23:12
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In trying to sort out which cheepie center is the best i ran a few stats:
Gadzuric - 6 games, 144.5 pts in 135 mins, 24 pts/g in 22.5 mins/g, 1.07 pts/min
Woods - 7 games, 153 pts in 163 mins, 21.9 pts/g in 23.3 mins/g, .94 pts/min
McCoy - 8 games, 160 pts in 187 mins, 20 pts/g in 23.4 mins/g, .86 pts/min
Jackson - 7 games, 118 pts in 150 mins, 16.9 pts/g in 21.4 mins/g, .79 pts/min
Now in the first 20 days MIN play 11 gms, MIL and TOR play 9 gms.
Based on these averages after 20 days we have Woods 241 pts, Gadzuric 216, Jackson 186 and McCoy 180.
Gadzuric should start over Johnson based on his preseason perfromance and is a steal at 500K. Woods sems to be the best C to start with but keep in mind that Joe Smith and Przybilla will return early in the season and take mins away, which leaves McCoy as the safe option.
Tell us what you all think
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| | | 32 | KnicksFan
Donor
ID: 439341814
Fri, Oct 25, 2002, 23:24
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I don't know if this type of roster has been discussed yet, but tell me what you guys think of it.
Guards- Kobe or McGrady, 3-4 million guard (arenas?), two cheapies
Forwards- Gooden, Murphy, Hill, Miles
Center- Wallace, Nowitzki
I figured that those 4 forwards are all likely to be money trains (even if gooden is on many rosters, if he plays well, the rest of the people will pick him up), plus if they produce at the levels they are capable of, you could be looking at 150 tsnp from the forward spot.
Then, you have 2 solid centers who can give you about 80-90 tsnp and you won't have to worry about which cheapies pan out.
At guard is the main problem. I would be happy with a total of 100 tsnp from the 4 of them.
That adds up to 100+90+150= 340 tsnp for your ten guys. I know this is optimistic for an opening roster but I really believe in those forwards and think that they are also the most likely money gainers early on. The main difficulty with this roster is that the centers do not have the greatest schedules to start...but, i dont mind because i plan on holding them for a while.
The other type of roster that I was considering was the one that most of you guys seem to prefer.
Guard-Kobe, Wells, Two Cheapies
Forward- Garnett, Webber, Gooden (or Murphy), Stoudemire
Center-Two Cheap Bastards.
Guards I expect to get about 100tsnp from. Forwards should provide 160tsnp, and Center 40tsnp. That only adds to 300tsnp.
Obviously I am basically using my own judgement for these projections, and most likely I am being too optimistic. However, if I am right...
CMIIW
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| | | 33 | p...
ID: 1545375
Fri, Oct 25, 2002, 23:27
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I think that McCoy is the best option and as of now he is on my opening day roster. If one of the other ones develops into a train I may jump aboard, granted I dont need to spend many trades elswhere.
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| | | 34 | TaRhEElKiD
ID: 42109719
Fri, Oct 25, 2002, 23:29
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For my centers:
Kurt and Mccoy
Kurt and Gadzuric
Gadzuric and Mccoy
This will change I am sure...C is tough this year I think. Last year I had an automatic Tmac2 and Nesto.
THK
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| | | 35 | TwoPumps
ID: 21058102
Fri, Oct 25, 2002, 23:30
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Hmmmmm Christie's suspension might give Bobby J even more minutes....he is becoming a very interesting option.
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| | | 36 | TaRhEElKiD
ID: 42109719
Fri, Oct 25, 2002, 23:31
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I happen to have him on 3 teams. Of course I had him on all 3 teams before Christie beat some ass...lol
THK
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| | | 37 | jedman
Sustainer
ID: 40746414
Sat, Oct 26, 2002, 00:05
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If I decide to go cheap at center, it will be cheap, Gadzuric and McCoy.
The nice thing about Ben Wallace is that you could draft him as a forward and if a money train develops at a cheap forward slot, you could move him to center and pick up the cheap forward.
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| | | 38 | TaRhEElKiD
ID: 42109719
Sat, Oct 26, 2002, 00:58
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I just took Gadzuric off all my teams. I just realized his schedule sucks, lol.
I am having C problems as is everyone...
Jedman-
I had Wallace, but then I wanted to upgrade at G...so I went with Kurt. I ended up liking the idea and did it on another team, lol. I think Kurt will have to be pulling down at least 10-12 boards and night and should easily tack on 10 points a game. I like his chances to play well the first 2 wks...and...he is a KNICK!
THK
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| | | 39 | TwoPumps
ID: 21058102
Sat, Oct 26, 2002, 01:18
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Yup that is the thing with Gadzuric he has back to back 3 game weeks...its such a shame cause he be a great option...by the time his schedule gets good Pryzibila should be back
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| | | 40 | jedman
Sustainer
ID: 40746414
Sat, Oct 26, 2002, 11:20
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With cheapies like Gadzuric, I'm not as concerned about schedule. Toronto's schedule is not great either, but it seems a lot are going to McCoy. I think you plan on holding your cheapies for awhile unless they take a big spike in $$ and you want to cash in.
What is the final word on PT for Jaric from anybody in Clipper land? He seems to be the best 500K option at guard.
Is Palacio going to be decent? I see his numbers have been ok, is he the for sure starting PG in Cleveland?
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| | | 41 | jedman
Sustainer
ID: 40746414
Sat, Oct 26, 2002, 11:25
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Additionally, according to the SF Chronicle, it looks like Murphy has the nod as starting PF for the Warriors. Fortson has been out due to personal reasons for awhile now and will join the team Sunday for practice. Dunleavy's shooting has been horrible in the pre-season and Murphy is bulked up over the summer and rebounding much better. Hey, maybe the W's can win 25 games this year!!
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| | | 42 | rafi
ID: 269251618
Sat, Oct 26, 2002, 12:05
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ok boys I could really use some help right now
Which team is better
first team Guard
tmac, B.JACKSON, giniboli, jaric
Forwards
duncan, garnett, MILES, gooden
Centers
mccoy, woods
Second team
Guards
Tmac, BRYANT, ginioboli, jaric
Forwards
Duncan, garnett, gooden, BROWN
Centers
Mccoy, woods
So basically I wanna know which is better, kobe and brown, or jackson and miles? But the nice thing about going miles and jackson is that I will have some money freed up and I could use that.
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| | | 43 | TaRhEElKiD
ID: 42109719
Sat, Oct 26, 2002, 12:45
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Murphy could be the first $$$ train this year.
THK
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| | | 44 | joe suspect
Donor
ID: 298531714
Sat, Oct 26, 2002, 12:50
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Rafi, do you really expect ALL of your Ginolbi, Jaric, McCoy, Woods combination to pan out? At best two of them would be worth keeping, so then you have to burn 2 trades to go to someone else...but who? Not many options open, so you will have to trade a stud and a 500K player to go to two decent mid-ranged players.
But, if you decide to go tnat way, I would take Miles and Jackson.
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| | | 45 | TwoPumps
ID: 21058102
Sat, Oct 26, 2002, 16:28
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Is Murphy a safer option then Gooden...since he might get more minutes?..both are solid rebounders...Gooden has the better scoring touch, but its pretty hard to score from the bench
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| | | 46 | Blooki
ID: 6838118
Sat, Oct 26, 2002, 16:42
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I'd place Murphy and Gooden at approximately the same level. Gooden will probably be one of the first few guys off of the bench and Murphy will probably be one of the first starters off of the court. I see them getting similar minutes and TSNP. Their value will probably be most dependent on Dunleavy and Battier sucking.
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| | | 47 | grEEr
ID: 15901611
Sat, Oct 26, 2002, 17:12
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NE one have an update on webber??? it's damn hard to make a 'perfect' roster with out a final answer about his health.
*been trying to find info, but can't get anything that says when he'll be back.
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| | | 48 | qwert
ID: 29121518
Sat, Oct 26, 2002, 20:05
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rafi, your second team is the exact same as mine, except you have kwame where i have radman. i think it's a pretty solid roster and don't plan on changing it.
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| | | 49 | Memphis Fan
ID: 36851518
Sat, Oct 26, 2002, 20:15
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Murphy and Goods being compared! What the.. =X
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| | | 50 | Smellcheese
ID: 1544485
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 04:40
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Bad news for McCoy owners, I just read this on Yahoo:
Raptors' head coach Lenny Wilkins has moved forward Antonio Davis back to center, inserted Jerome Williams as power forward, and put Jelani McCoy on the bench, the Toronto Star reported. "I think [Davis is] comfortable at any position," Wilkens said. "We have to have players on the court who know what we want to do. That lineup knew the offense and knew the defensive schemes." McCoy had been starting at center, with Williams out nursing a sore hamstring. Last night was Williams' first preseason game.
Davis, Williams, Morris Peterson, Vince Carter, and Alvin Williams is now the project opening day lineup, with McCoy and Lamond Murray being the first two players off of the bench.
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| | | 51 | Micheal
ID: 12744225
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 05:23
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That's not good.
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| | | 52 | highlander
ID: 179512520
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 06:57
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jedman in reply to #40
Jaric will back up Miller at point=>~12 min/game based on Miller's average of 37 min/game last season.
In other words 8.8 TSNP/game based on Jaric's preseaon production of 0.734 TSNP/min .
Damn!..now I have to change my roster once again :)
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| | | 53 | Tree
ID: 14957244
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 07:26
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in regards to the raptors - despite the fact he's had a super pre-season, is michael bradley simply not an option?
peace,
Tree
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| | | 54 | p...
ID: 1545375
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 07:42
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Well now the question is, do i still draft McCoy or look elshwere?
Im leaning on keeping him just because I dont want to change any of my other players.
highlander,
I think Jaric will get more than 12 minutes per game if he is able to back up the SG slot also.
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| | | 55 | Blooki
ID: 6838118
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 08:23
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Bradley's listed at F.
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| | | 56 | grEEr
ID: 15901611
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 12:39
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Yes, McCoy is still a good choie to draft. He'll see 20-25minutes a game. (i'm from toronto) and the report u read must be old becasue Murry is hurt, and will therefore not be comming of the bench 2nd.
As far a Jaric goes he's a great option. L.Odom is out so he'll be seeing alot of time. C.Magette is alos hurt, or at least questionable.
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| | | 57 | Veracity
ID: 58822619
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 14:57
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I'm pretty close to settling on my opening day roster. So I'm revealing my hand in order to contribute to and benefit from the collective wisdom of the rotoguru community.
Stud PG: I have enough money to grab any guard; haven't decided between Kobe, Kidd
GILBERT ARENAS, GS, $4,940, 32.6 preseason.
Starter, fills the stat line with assists, blocks, rebounds, steal, points and free throws.
RON MERCER, IND, $2,050, 19.4 preseason.
INSIDEHOOPS: "Reggie Miller, who severely twisted his right ankle August 25 in an
exhibition game against Germany and hasn't been himself since, may be sidelined for the
first few weeks of the season, maybe a lot longer if it's determined an arthroscopy is
needed to clean up the problem, The Post has learned."
ESPN: The injury to Reggie Miller opens the door for Mercer to start the season opener at
shooting guard, the Indianapolis Star reports.
MILT PALACIO, CLE, $1,110, 20.3 preseason.
Starting PG, assists probably good enough to keep starting job until someone else develops.
TIM DUNCAN, SA, $12,100, 38.9 preseason.
Duncan could be a necessity this season, the way Shaq was three years ago. I'll be swapping
back and forth between Duncan and Shawn Marion early. Their scheds are complimentary.
KEVIN GARNETT, MIN, $11,100, 36.5 preseason.
50 TSNP in 25 minutes his last preseason game, good opening shedule.
DARIUS MILES, CLE, $5,610, 35.7 preseason.
An absolute steal at this price, good opening sched.
RYAN HUMPHRIES, ORL, $650, 14.3 preseason.
ESPN: Humphrey followed up a 12-point, nine-rebound game against Memphis on Tuesday with
another strong game Thursday. Humphrey was the first player off the bench and immediately
went about scoring nine points and grabbing five rebounds.
I'll be swapping in Malik Allen ($500) when the Heat's sched. picks up. Allen was named the
Heat's starting SF, according to the Miami Herald.
LOREN WOODS, MIN, $860, 21.9 preseason.
Good preseason, Joe Smith hobbled. A bit of a question mark. Might not make opening roster.
DAN GADZURIC, MIL, $500, 24.1 preseason.
Saw him play on TNT; not spectacular, but hustles and seems to know his job is to grab
rebounds with occassional putbacks. He's starting while Palacio is out (not for long I
hear), so this gives me time to observe other cheapie centers while getting points for my
team.
$2 million in the bank.
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| | | 58 | Veracity
ID: 58822619
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 15:02
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Dur, I meant Pryzbilla out for a while at center.
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| | | 59 | grEEr
ID: 15901611
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 16:13
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I saw that game too.
Woods is a great pick but i am stuck between McCoy and Gadz..... I geuss Gadz has the starting spot, making him the better option.
although McCoy will see mega minuts for a bench palayer (JYD is sorta hurt), he could possibly start.
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| | | 60 | jshrauner
ID: 457412218
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 17:03
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I am looking at two possible combinations:
Combo 1:
Payton with McCoy
or
Bryant/McGrady with Woods
I am worried about the money drop expected with McGrady and Bryant after there hot start. I feel it is more important to pick up the extra money now and sacrifice points. What do some of you more experienced players feel about the money/points equilibrium? I feel Woods has a better earning potential because of his schedule, but McCoy could easily soar with a couple of big games.
Combo 2:
Duncan with Courtney Alexander
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Webber with Arenas
I feel that if Webber is healthy, the second team is much better. Duncan, more than likly, will have to be moved after week 1. Arenas has the best schedule for the first couple weeks, and the King's schedule is awesome. I think this will come down to the health of Webber.
Thanks for any insight....
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| | | 61 | The Collenium
ID: 38922223
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 17:06
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It seems like everyone is dumping Duncan for the second week (if they have him at all for the first week). Am I the only one planning on taking a small hit to save two trades?
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| | | 62 | Blooki
ID: 6838118
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 17:08
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I'm taking the hit.
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| | | 63 | penngray
Donor
ID: 453492921
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 17:22
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here is my one of 5 teams, I suspect this will be a very common roster ;)
Cash Left: 280,000 TSND Roster Value: 49,720,000 TSND
Trades Remaining: Unlimited until 7pm EST on Tuesday, 10/29
Buy Players
Position Price Sort By
All playersGuardsForwardsCenters at any price10M or less9M or less8M or less7M or less6M or less5M or less4M or less3M or less2M or less1M or less sorted by pricesorted by total TSNPsorted by TSNP/G
OR find a player by last name:
Your Team | Financial Report | Trade History TSNP
Pos Guards Team Next Gm PPG RPG APG Last Total Sell For:
G McGrady, Tracy ORL 10/29 @ PHI 25.6 7.9 5.3 0 3369 $9,750,000
G Arenas, Gilbert GS 10/30 @ SA 10.9 2.8 3.7 0 1019 $4,940,000
G Jackson, Bobby SAC 10/29 @ CLE 11.1 3.1 2.0 0 1473 $4,040,000
G Palacio, Milt CLE 10/30 SEA 3.3 1.1 1.2 0 466 $1,110,000
Pos Forwards Team Next Gm PPG RPG APG Last Total Sell For:
F Duncan, Tim SA 10/29 LAL 25.5 12.7 3.7 0 4152 $12,100,000
F Garnett, Kevin MIN 10/30 @ DEN 21.2 12.1 5.2 0 3896 $11,100,000
F Gooden, Drew MEM 10/30 @ DAL .0 .0 .0 0 0 $3,000,000
F Brown, Kwame WAS 10/30 TOR 4.5 3.5 .8 0 600 $2,320,000
Pos Centers Team Next Gm PPG RPG APG Last Total Sell For:
C Woods, Loren MIN 10/30 @ DEN 1.8 2.0 .4 0 381 $860,000
C McCoy, Jelani TOR 10/29 @ SA 1.2 1.2 .3 0 72 $500,000
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| | | 64 | penngray
Donor
ID: 453492921
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 17:34
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Is anyone considering Payton ??
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| | | 65 | gibby88
ID: 50451220
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 17:47
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From Ultimate Hoops Roster III:
attn: SKIP TO MY LOU:
re post #155
Been busy...
As to your question on Randolph. I figured with Kemp gone he would receive some of those minutes...but most likely not. Reports here say he will sit again. His defensive skills still need work as well as his shot selection. (though he can score on almost anyone)
I hope Maurice Cheeks let's him play more and more as the season goes...I would hate to see another O'neal "get away!" (But remember Portland drafted Bowie over Jordan too! Hold on, I need to pause for a moment and shake that off for the millionth time!)
As for Stoudamire, he gets the starting knod, but you are correct, McCinnis is breathing down his neck. Old Mighty Mouse was in HOT WATER this summer, and I suspect with replace another OREGON boy at PG in MINN before the season is half over. I do, though, think MIGHTY MOUSE will get 28+ minutes a game to start the season.
My thoughts, gibby88
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| | | 66 | grEEr
ID: 15901611
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 17:54
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penngray, there are better ways of posting your roster....look at the way others have done it.
besides that it is almost idetical to my #2 team's line up. With the only difference (T-Murf instead of Gooden) who i feel will be a disappointment, if your looking for his preseason production to continue.
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| | | 67 | penngray
Donor
ID: 453492921
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 17:57
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G, cut/paste is easy. Been doing it here for years. dont need a newbie telling me what to do ;)
Yes, Gooden is only on that team so far but Im not convinced Murphy will do anything in the regular season.
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| | | 68 | AHSbball05
ID: 34992216
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 18:08
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oooh...he called you newbie! thats harsh.....
dude for real though, all you need to do is type TEN words....just do it like other people
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| | | 69 | grEEr
ID: 15901611
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 18:11
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Heh, i'm no newbie (5th year)
Gooden is probably gonna be drafted heavy making him more of a risk. It will be better to go with (Murphy, Brown or Radmanovic) then move to Gooden if he keeps up his preseason pace.
Note: all i was saying it is better to cut and past (just the roster portion)
:) good luck with the season.
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| | | 70 | penngray
Donor
ID: 453492921
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 18:13
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lets not waste space and posts on how to post rosters. I have seen 5 different ways to post them so far here so its no biggie on how we do it.
I highlight my team and I posted it. It is the FASTEST way to do it. You can read it so I dont see a problem. I never had comments in previous years.
Anyways, arent we here to discuss basketball not critique each others means and methods?
Newbie, was just a little poking fun at GrEEr since in other threads they gave him a hard time too. Not harsh at all...
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| | | 71 | penngray
Donor
ID: 453492921
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 18:16
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Thats cool GrEEr!
I agree on the Gooden risk but since I have 5 teams I can put him on a couple to maybe ride is possible stud numbers ie. Gasol last year.
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| | | 72 | Gary
ID: 26930716
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 18:45
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who do you all think is a better choice, palacio or charlie ward?
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| | | 73 | Blooki
ID: 6838118
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 18:52
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Ward. Miles will be running the offense for the Cavs IIRC.
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| | | 74 | penngray
Donor
ID: 453492921
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 19:05
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Ward has never done much in the way of TSN points.
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| | | 75 | Blooki
ID: 6838118
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 19:08
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And Palacio has? New year, new players.
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| | | 76 | grEEr
ID: 15901611
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 19:10
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palico all the way, and if he strugles move on to Satterfield. (chris Witney) is junk and also hurt. So kenny will be runnin the show.
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| | | 77 | Micheal
ID: 12744225
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 19:20
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Looks like 15,000 other rosters.
Kidd, Jason NJ 10/30 @ ATL 14.7 7.3 9.9 0 3606 $10,260,000
G Arenas, Gilbert GS 10/30 @ SA 10.9 2.8 3.7 0 1019 $4,940,000
G Palacio, Milt CLE 10/30 SEA 3.3 1.1 1.2 0 466 $1,110,000
G Jaric, Marko LAC 10/30 @ CLE .0 .0 .0 0 0 $500,000
Pos Forwards Team Next Gm PPG RPG APG Last Total Sell For:
F Duncan, Tim SA 10/29 LAL 25.5 12.7 3.7 0 4152 $12,100,000
F Garnett, Kevin MIN 10/30 @ DEN 21.2 12.1 5.2 0 3896 $11,100,000
F Miles, Darius CLE 10/29 SAC 9.5 5.5 2.2 0 1838 $5,610,000
F Murphy, Troy GS 10/30 @ SA 5.9 3.9 .9 0 1004 $2,680,000
Pos Centers Team Next Gm PPG RPG APG Last Total Sell For:
C Woods, Loren MIN 10/30 @ DEN 1.8 2.0 .4 0 381 $860,000
C McCoy, Jelani TOR 10/29 @ SA 1.2 1.2 .3 0 72 $500,000
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| | | 78 | Hang Time
ID: 27922621
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 19:26
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grEEr: i have only ever gon by to names "grEEr" and "6th Man". This is my first year in Ultmaite Hoops.
I guess "newbie" is warranted. Huh?
grEEr: i'm a little touchy because of some of the ROTOGURU dick heads. Micheal and a few otheres, ahhh they were pissin me off and it had something to with mistaking me for someone else as well.....
Hey! That's not nice!
Link? Here you go.
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| | | 79 | Blooki
ID: 6838118
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 19:34
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Saw him in my division too. His manager profile says he's only been a member since March 2002. Anyhoo, take what he says with a grain of salt. When he decides to give it to us straight, maybe I'll start listening.
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| | | 80 | penngray
Donor
ID: 453492921
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 19:38
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lol! I always thought Canadians were more laid back. Must be those high interest rates getting to GrEEr ;)
Lets just move on and talk about Basketball because Im going crazy trying to decide if I should go with more of these .5 mil unproven most likely to fail pics!
Penngray
Canadian but move to a place with lower interest rates ;)
GrEEr, I hung out at the "Maddy" for years!!!!
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| | | 81 | penngray
Donor
ID: 453492921
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 19:41
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Jaric seems to be a big ? for me.
I cant see him getting more than 10 points/gm and even at .5 mil it doesnt seem worth it.
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| | | 82 | Hang Time
ID: 27922621
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 19:42
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penngray: I only have one 500k player and that's Jaric. I don't trust anyone else (and I don't really trust Jaric for that matter). Good luck.
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| | | 83 | Micheal
ID: 12744225
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 19:47
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If you're going to have studs, you're going to have to go with some 500K players, so pick the best one(s) and hope you get something out of them.
Are you guys just now realizing that grEEr is fulla doo-doo?
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| | | 84 | KnicksFan
Donor
ID: 439341814
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 19:50
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LOL at Micheal post 77...I know you posted the roster like that just to piss off grEEr. HAHA
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| | | 85 | penngray
Donor
ID: 453492921
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 19:52
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Is anyone looking at Portland?
like Davis, Wallace or Bonzi... Anyone thinking about 2 of these guys for the first 2 weeks?
and then maybe moving them into a cheapy and Duncan?
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| | | 86 | grEEr
ID: 15901611
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 20:03
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I've been doing Basic for 4-5 years now...It was run with the same FORMAT as ULTMAITE IS NOW.
So i'm not a newbie....Don't talk about me NE more stick to basketball.
Hey HANG TIME u just made that list "YOU DICK HEAD"
I"M TRYING TO FOLLOW THE RULES OF THE FORUMS AND CONTRIBUTE TO BASEKETBALL STUFF..... SO GET OFF MY BACK.
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| | | 87 | grEEr
ID: 15901611
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 20:07
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I bet Micheal will use that roster because he's stupid and needs a so called "newbie" to help him.
I'm gonna woop your sorry ass this year Micheal. I stoped this stuff but seems you wanna bring it back up.
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| | | 88 | Dave R
Leader
ID: 12441623
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 20:09
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grEEr, you have posted some insightful stuff.
Drop the attitiude
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| | | 89 | penngray
Donor
ID: 453492921
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 20:10
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it always been an interesting forum full of great debates and awesome information. lots of us lurkers post once in awhile.
If you are new and post lots, questions, opinions or whatever the regular posters will come hard you.
Like it or not around its better to be passive and quiet than to have a LOUD opinion. Its almost like you have to earn your dues before you speak up.
This is my opinion.
Oh by the way No SWEARING!!!
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| | | 90 | grEEr
ID: 15901611
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 20:10
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i'm off to watch the BaseBall game... I'll be on later to see Micheal's response because i know he will reply and disobey the rules of the forums set by Dave.
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| | | 91 | penngray
Donor
ID: 453492921
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 20:11
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By the way grEEr I was WWR of 3rd in the Basic legue last year so bring it on!
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| | | 92 | grEEr
ID: 15901611
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 20:13
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Dave, thanx
I'm trying to be a good contributer and a nice guy. Apperently i remind some people of a guy called "Chris" so they keep making posts about me.
I thought these boards were monitored...??? I only have an attitude when people make persona attacks on me.
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| | | 93 | Dave R
Leader
ID: 12441623
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 20:16
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grEEr, people only attack you if you give them a reason to, I like some of the stuff you've posted, makes some sense, leave it to hoops.
If you give people a reason to attack you, they will. Ignore it
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| | | 94 | grEEr
ID: 15901611
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 20:16
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penn i welcome the challenge...but please don't act like micheal. and try to start fights with me.
You admitted it "i only picked on him because i saw others were doing it"
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| | | 95 | grEEr
ID: 15901611
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 20:18
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Yup, starting now i'll be ignoring NE thing morans like Micheal. post.
In my mind i've done nothing to warrant these attacks...all i said to micheal was it isant proper to lure Newbies in to a divsion with him (a GURU) jsut so he could make money.
BACK TO BASKETBALL...
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| | | 96 | Dave R
Leader
ID: 12441623
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 20:20
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see there you go, calling michael a moron. He's a worthwhile contributor here.
give it a rest
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| | | 97 | penngray
Donor
ID: 453492921
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 20:22
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Easy GrEEr,
I was making light of the whole situation and not picking on you.
A person must have a thick skin when posting on the boards because it is too easy to misinterpret typed words.
I do believe you are a newbie at this (nothing wrong with that at all). You must take every post with a grain of salt. There are lots of EGOs around here and people are sometimes defensive and quick to start flame wars. Dont fall for it and just move on.
In the end sorry if I have offend you! I hope to hear more about your Basketball opinions so I can steal your ideas ;)
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| | | 98 | Micheal
ID: 12744225
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 21:19
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Let's talk ball. My roster is stupid? Explain why.
Kidd - No explanation necessary.
Arenas - Starting PG on a team with a great schedule and a run and gun style of play. Plus the kid can ball.
Palacio - Starting PG. Plus he's cheap.
Jaric - Everyone seems high on him. Haven't seen him play personally. Plus he's cheap.
Duncan - Don't need to explain this pick.
Garnett - or this one.
Miles - or this one. His short schedule is not the greatest, but everyone will have him soon.
Murphy - Great pre-season plus he's starting. He's cheap and has a great schedule.
Centers - They're cheap. Center is kinda thin this year. I'll have Wallace as soon as I see what cheap forwards pan out.
With all the cheap players there are 100 different variations of this roster. So, now tell me why it's stupid. It's the same as yours except for 3 players.
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| | | 99 | penngray
Donor
ID: 453492921
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 21:27
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One of my rosters is very similar.
On the Center issue, have you consider Davis, Por or Ilgauskas,Cle?
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| | | 100 | The Collenium
ID: 38922223
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 21:27
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Less than 48 hours to go...
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| | | 101 | penngray
Donor
ID: 453492921
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 21:32
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dont remind me!
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| | | 102 | qwert
ID: 29121518
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 21:32
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I like your roster Michael. I have the same one, but with TMac/Gooden instead of
Kidd/Murphy.
I think barbelling is a must this year. In past years, there just hasn't been the good cheapies that there are this year. By good, I mean consistently staying over 15 swp, often getting 20-25. If I can get 15-20 from my 4 cheapies, i'll be extremely happy because it allows me to get 40-50 from 3 guys on my roster EVERY night.
I've seen a lot of people jumping off of guys like McCoy and Woods because of one or two poor showings. There's a reason these guys cost so little. You have to take the good with the bad.
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| | | 103 | penngray
Donor
ID: 453492921
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 21:36
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Every year is seems like there are going to be 3-5 good sub mil players that we think will average 15-20 but in the end there are usually 1 or none. Preseason is not the regular season, I just hope I dont get caught up in all the hype.
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| | | 104 | Skip to My Lou
ID: 479251320
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 21:37
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Gibby,
Thanks for checking in as well as for the info on Portland. With their early schedule, I am very interested in what is going on up in your neck of the woods. Presently, I have Sheed and Bonzi on a team. I am hopeful that Mo will give those guys enough minutes early to exploit their schedules.
This is part of a strategy that concentrates on the best early schedules (including GS' Murphy and Arenas) along with long term studs Garnett and Webber along with a few non-schedule dependent cheapies (Palacio and Gadzuric).
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| | | 105 | Rand al'Thor
ID: 83231216
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 21:44
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Micheal, I like your roster but I'm not sure if I'd pick Darius Miles to open the season. At 5.6 mil he's chewing up alot of cash and I doubt he'll make any money the first week. After his first few games, he has sat/sun/mon. off (as you know). Even if he starts big, no one will move into him until those 3 days off have passed. I agree that he will be great this year, but it would drive me crazy to have that much money tied up in a guy who has 3 days off over the first weekend of the season.
I would downgrade Miles to a cheaper forward (you know who they are), and upgrade Palacio to Bobby Jackson. Yeah, it's basically penngray's team, which is also basically my team, but I really think that's the way to go. Of course, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. Not like you need any encouragement though:)
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| | | 106 | penngray
Donor
ID: 453492921
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 21:45
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lol! How can I stick to such a *COMMON* strategy?
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| | | 107 | Rand al'Thor
ID: 83231216
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 21:51
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lol. I'm hoping that what is "common" in this forum would be perceived as "unique" everywhere else.
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| | | 108 | grEEr
ID: 15901611
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 21:59
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Ron Mercer should also be looked at....Miller will be out a few weeks so he should be starting. (I was watching a replay of game 5 IND vs NJ in last years playoffs, reminded me of how good mercer can be when given the chance)
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| | | 109 | qwert
ID: 29121518
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 22:04
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By the time Indiana's schedule picks up, Miller will most likey be back. I can't see Isaih giving Mercer time ahead of Tinsley, Artest, Miller or even Jones
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| | | 110 | The Collenium
ID: 38922223
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 22:05
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Much to my frustration, I put Mercer on my team last year when he was Chicago's first option. He is alot like Alan Houston. He'll score 20 a night, and have zip across the rest of the score sheet.
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| | | 111 | Micheal
ID: 12744225
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 22:05
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Rand al'Thor
I agree with eveything that you said. In fact, that's what my other teams look like. They both have the 2 cheap forwards and B. Jackson. I think 1 even has Bradley. This roster I tried to do something different. If you look long term (each persons long term is differrent) his schedule is better than most.
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| | | 112 | The Collenium
ID: 38922223
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 22:06
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That's even assuming he gets the minutes and touches needed to put up 20 points.
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| | | 113 | grEEr
ID: 15901611
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 22:10
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Here is my other roster. Any suggestions???
G Kidd, Jason $10,260,000
G Jackson, Bobby $4,040,000
FG Mercer, Ron $2,050,000
G Palacio, Milt $1,110,000
F Duncan, Tim $12,100,000
F Garnett, Kevin $11,100,000
F Miles, Darius $5,610,000
F Brown, Kwame $2,320,000
C Woods, Loren $860,000
C Gadzuric, Dan $500,000
* was thinking (brown > radmanovic) or (palico > satterfield)
Note: i have another roster very similar to the ones being crituqed at the moment.
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| | | 114 | smartone
Donor
ID: 29135714
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 22:24
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OT...
hey, what is going on?!?!?
I just turned on the TV and found out that they are still playing ball... I thought that the season ended on the first week of October when Nick Johnson flied out in Anaheim... :-)
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| | | 115 | Micheal
ID: 12744225
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 22:25
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Please pick up Mercer. They have a total of 9 games in the first 3 weeks or 7 in the first 2. Plus he sucks. He averaged 1 rebound and 1 assist last year. Like Collenium said he's another Allan Houston.
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| | | 116 | grEEr
ID: 15901611
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 22:28
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u may be right, But i think he'll produce way better. Miller, Crosher and Arest will be out. (pretty sure)
Indaian starts off with (4-3) then it gets bad. I'll trade out of him then.
This move is to diversify my team and to get some point that no one in my division will get, as many feel the way u do about mercer.
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| | | 117 | penngray
Donor
ID: 453492921
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 22:29
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Shhhh....
dont give out that little secret
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| | | 118 | grEEr
ID: 15901611
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 22:31
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Mabye i'll go (mercer > satterfield) that will have some insurance $$$ in the bank, in case i need to make a switch some where else.
Note: Mercer is also a G/F makes him a little more valuable.
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| | | 119 | Micheal
ID: 12744225
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 22:40
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Dion Glover is a G,F and he averaged 3 rebounds last year. He looks pretty valuable too.
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| | | 120 | grEEr
ID: 15901611
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 22:41
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great pick Micheal. He'll help you out i'm sure!
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| | | 121 | jedman
Sustainer
ID: 40746414
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 22:47
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Are Michael and GrEEr going to dominate every thread the rest of the year with their bickering?
Just wondering if when the season starts we'll get down to just basketball talk and leave all the garbage someplace else. Or better yet, why don't you guys just start your own thread and you can talk smack to each other there and leave the rest of us to discussing things. The season hasn't even started and I'm already disgusted with this. Thank goodness for AIM!!
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| | | 122 | Smackdown
ID: 51054300
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 22:47
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92 grEEr
HEY! Listen to me...Don't bring me into this! You swore so don't blame anyone but yourself and you are contributing to them by replying to their critical reply's to you. I will not allow myself to get into this crap this year. My new motto is if someone post bad mouthing against me then I will simply skip over it and continue to look and reply to post that apply to my interest in the NBA.
Chris
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| | | 123 | Ender
ID: 13443221
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 22:50
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What Michael's trying to say is Mercer is nearly 1 dimensional. Mercer's a tease IMO. Draft him at your own risk. He's pretty much a scorer only.
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| | | 124 | AHSbball05
ID: 34992216
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 22:53
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Chris is so tight you guys, you dont even understand
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| | | 125 | Smackdown
ID: 51054300
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 23:00
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102 qwert
"I've seen a lot of people jumping off of guys like McCoy and Woods because of one or two poor showings. There's a reason these guys cost so little. You have to take the good with the bad.
"
I AGREE! You are right on with this one. I look at soemone at 500k as a fill in so I do not have to deal with an invalid roster! LOL When I see a great buy in that position then I will apply the funds to it but until then I will just fill in the position with the little amout of funds possible and that is 500k!
Thank You for your most sensible post.
Chris Again
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| | | 126 | Micheal
ID: 12744225
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 23:04
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jedman
I don't know what brought that on. Where in this whole thread have I not talked about basketball?
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| | | 127 | Smackdown
ID: 51054300
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 23:05
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Mercer? My feelings...WHY? You want to diversify? There are hundreds of players you can diversify to and you want Mercer? You will be lucky if he gets 20 minuets.
Just my opinion! I like C Ward as a sleeper?
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| | | 128 | Micheal
ID: 12744225
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 23:06
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Smackdown
That sounds like post #14.
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| | | 129 | Smackdown
ID: 51054300
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 23:09
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121 jedman
For the most part I can read over it and at times it reminds me of interviews on SportCenter between the Lakers and SAC Queens as the Diesel said.
BUT..Not in the Injury Thread. I hate reading through all of the crap in their just to see what trouble Webber has gotten into now.
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| | | 130 | SweetGP20
ID: 298372916
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 23:10
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I haven't seen Woods play much. But last year he was a rookie and thus far he has been impressive this preseason and gotten a lot of PT. As for McCoy, he had 3 years to prove himself in Seattle, was even given the starting job over Baker, and he didnt do jack*. So I'm not expecting him to do any better either. I'm not taking any chance on him, not even at 500K.
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| | | 131 | Smackdown
ID: 51054300
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 23:15
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Micheal
I will give one up for you as well then!
Here... I was thinking...I want to start as many Sensible starting roster picks from teams that play the first night. I want in on that first dumping session. I have at F TD, C Webb, G Hill and Miles....One to go for KG the next day. Who ever disappoints me will get the boot! I am either going to save the extra 6 mil on the bench or upgrade a guard to a stud and then wait till I see after the fist night how some of the 500k players fair. Then dump some cash at G for one of them and get KG.
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| | | 132 | jedman
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ID: 40746414
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 23:31
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The only 500K guy I have right now is Gadzuric. It seems every year I get burned with those kind of guys starting out. Pre-season minutes seem to evaporate when the real season starts and all of a sudden you have a totally wasted space on your roster. I will be so glad when the season starts and I don't have to come up with an initial team. After a few days hopefully some things become clearer and we will use our precious first few trades to fill in our holes.
I agree with Ender on Mercer, seems very one dimensional to me.
I'm watching Billups to see how he does running the Detroit offense and I'm also interested to see how Kirilenko does with increased PT in Utah.
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| | | 133 | Smackdown
ID: 51054300
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 23:34
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jedman
I agree I am from MI and I want to see if Billips is up for the job? And Kirk had a price increase that will go with his PT increase. That is my problem on him.
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| | | 134 | jedman
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Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 23:36
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I also thought I'd have Richard Jefferson on some teams to start, but his less than stellar pre-season moved me away, but then again I don't know how many minutes he was really playing.
I read somewhere that Donyell Marshall is doing pretty well in Chicago and will force Cartwright to give hime some PT. He has proven he can put up the TSNP when he plays. Anybody have more word out of Chicago?
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| | | 135 | Dave R
Leader
ID: 12441623
Sun, Oct 27, 2002, 23:44
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I thought Jefferson was a sure bet early on, but his price tag threw me. No doubt he's gonna be solid for NJ, but I'm not sure worth the price
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| | | 136 | joe suspect
Donor
ID: 298531714
Mon, Oct 28, 2002, 00:03
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Oh no, not the BOOT!!
The Boot
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| | | 137 | p...
ID: 1545375
Mon, Oct 28, 2002, 03:00
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I just checked over the schedule and int he first 10 days, both McCoy and Gadzuric have 5 games.
I might go with Gadzuric and see who develops from there, possible sleepers or trains at center.
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ID: 13443221
Mon, Oct 28, 2002, 08:26
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I assume you want to hold whichever cheap center you draft for a full week. If that is indeed the case, McCoy would give you an extra game (4 as opposed to 3) to evaluate him. Woods would gets 5 games in that stretch if it makes a difference. However, if you want to hold through 11/9 (somewhat arbitrary, but perhaps the fairest early date) then McCoy and Gadzuric each play 6 while Woods plays 7.
I can't see swapping them any soone than 4 or 5 games because you simply won't know enough about who to move to.
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| | | 140 | WeBeJammin
ID: 315461412
Mon, Oct 28, 2002, 09:07
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Don't remember the site, but I read somewhere that Saunders will stay with Hudson as the starter. Said Strickland is for depth and experience, since they have a lot of injuries at G. He said Hudson played great in preseason, that he worked hard, and deserves a lot of PT.
That said, I won't have Hudson. A bad game or two and Saunders will "Flip" on his words.
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| | | 141 | Micheal
ID: 27938177
Mon, Oct 28, 2002, 09:47
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All these sites with different projected starters, who knows which ones are right. I don't.
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| | | 142 | Ref
ID: 28045169
Mon, Oct 28, 2002, 10:38
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Re: 121
Amen
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| | | 143 | Dunkenstein
ID: 249534
Mon, Oct 28, 2002, 11:50
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Michael, I find the RealGM depth charts to be consistently the most accurate and most regularly updated.
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| | | 144 | grEEr
ID: 189212811
Mon, Oct 28, 2002, 12:36
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McCoy will be a better long term hold. (HE IS STARTING. It was conmirmed in a major Toronto news parper today. Gadz will be out when Priz comes back.
I got 2 teams do this to be safe.
Woods, Gadz
Woods, McCoy
However it u had to pick 1 i say McCoy
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| | | 145 | Dunkenstein
ID: 249534
Mon, Oct 28, 2002, 14:21
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Greer, could you post a link to the article on McCoy. I looked in three Toronto papers and couldn't find it. Thanks
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| | | 146 | Memphis Fan
ID: 36851518
Mon, Oct 28, 2002, 15:12
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Dunkenstein:
Your correct about RealGM. I use them as well. Ive yet to see anything about McCoy starting, they would bench Junk Yard for him?
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| | | 147 | Dunkenstein
ID: 249534
Mon, Oct 28, 2002, 15:35
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I did read in a Toronto paper that JYD may not be fit to play opening night. In that case, McCoy could start. But I suspect that as soon as he is healthy, JYD becomes a starter, Davis moves to center and McCoy moves to the bench.
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| | | 148 | Micheal
ID: 12744225
Mon, Oct 28, 2002, 15:38
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Re: 126
That's a good question.
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| | | 149 | Stevo
ID: 26930716
Mon, Oct 28, 2002, 15:53
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Michael you are one annoying @$$hole, Just shut the hell up, and talk about basketball. You are ruining these message boards.
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| | | 151 | Veracity
ID: 58822619
Mon, Oct 28, 2002, 16:01
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Am I just feeling overwhelmed by the permutations? I'm starting to think it might be wise to keep things simple and not double up on studs at any one position at the beginning. Studs require care and maintenance, otherwise you're taking money hits every time their schedules dip.
I'm thinking of getting Ben Wallace for my top center position. That way I have one less cheapie slot to worry about and only one stud at guard and center to maximize playing time for.
I won't be making as many points right off the bat, but my roster will be lower-maintenance and a little less risky so I should be able to save some trades.
Does anyone have any comments on this idea?
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| | | 152 | Micheal
ID: 12744225
Mon, Oct 28, 2002, 16:02
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RE:
14, 16, 26, 51, 77, 83, 98, 111, 115, 119, 138, 141.
Which one hasn't been about basketball?
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| | | 153 | Veracity
ID: 58822619
Mon, Oct 28, 2002, 16:17
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152 ... D'oh, now you've got me doing it! ;-)
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| | | 154 | C.C. SOLDIERS
ID: 467393122
Mon, Oct 28, 2002, 18:52
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I know I'm late but has anyone have any inside info or insight on the following player:
Rasheed Wallace
Ben Wallace
Karl Malone
Any injuries or inside info on these 3 would be appreciated. I'm leanin toward choosing Rasheed out of these 3. All 3 have good schedules.
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| | | 155 | AHSbball05
ID: 34992216
Mon, Oct 28, 2002, 18:58
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BEN BEN BEN BEN BEN BEN BEN BEN BEN
hes awesome, consistent, and a player....get him!!!!
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| | | 156 | qwert
ID: 29121518
Mon, Oct 28, 2002, 19:14
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I agree. Of the three, Ben is the best choice. Defence is more consistent than offence and Ben is always going to get 12+ rebounds and 2+ blocks and steals. He also has the C/F versatility. That being said, none of these three are on my team. If you're going stud forward, there's really only 3 guys to look at. Ben is a stud C though and the best option of the 3.
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| | | 157 | grEEr
ID: 15901611
Mon, Oct 28, 2002, 19:36
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RE #145
I found this in a (hard copy paper), i live in toronto. I couldn't find the article on the net.
look at www.waymoresports.com (if it's on th net it will be there)
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| | | 158 | Micheal
ID: 12744225
Mon, Oct 28, 2002, 19:48
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While Rasheeds schedule is nice, he is too eratic for me. His price is cheaper than in past years, but his temper and sporadic play make me shy away from him. I remember last year when I had him he was ejected twice. I went with Ben on 2 teams.
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| | | 159 | Picadilly
ID: 249492816
Mon, Oct 28, 2002, 20:20
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any comments are welcome... which team is better?
team a:
G: arenas, b. jackson, jaric, palacio
F: KG, CWeb, Duncan, Gooden
C: Gadzuric, Mccoy
team b:
G: kobe, arenas, b. jackson, jaric
F: KG, CWeb, miles, radmanovic (or k.brown)
C: woods, mccoy (or gadzuric)
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| | | 160 | KnicksFan
Donor
ID: 3974252
Mon, Oct 28, 2002, 20:52
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After reading some local papers and checking out the stats for the one thousandth time, I have decided to avoid T. Murphy to start the season. Danny Fortson has been away from the team for personal reasons since October 19th. When Fortson returns (probably for opening night), even if Murphy starts, he will probably limit Troy to less than 30 minutes per game. I am sure Murphy can have some great games, but his average tsnp will probably end up being in the mid-twenties.
My forwards were going to be: Hill, Miles, Murphy, and Gooden.
Now they are tentatively: Duncan, Miles, Gooden, Stoudemire
At guard, I am thinking of throwing in Corey Maggette since I have to downgrade Gilbert Arenas to afford my new forwards. The LA Times says that Maggette will probably start in Odom's place, but did not mention whether his injury had healed. Is there any word on his status? Can I assume he is better?
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| | | 161 | Veracity
ID: 58822619
Mon, Oct 28, 2002, 21:15
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So am I the only one using Ben Wallace at center?
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| | | 162 | R
ID: 38426220
Mon, Oct 28, 2002, 21:23
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Veracity-
I got wallace too, now be quiet, before everyone grabs him.
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| | | 163 | Veracity
ID: 58822619
Mon, Oct 28, 2002, 21:29
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Picadilly: we're all going to have Duncan, Garnett, Webber ... just not all three at the same time. I don't know. That strategy could rocket you to the forefront in points, but it could also hurt you. You can't keep all their schedules optimized all the time without using a lot of trades. So you'll be riding out all their ups and downs in price instead of surfing their price gains and making money. It's daring. And tempting. But it's also like putting all your eggs in the stud forward basket.
I like vertical trading, i.e., where each roster slot is a price range and you trade into and out of players in their allotted range. Horizontal trading is where you shuffle money out of one slot and into another, requiring more than one trade. I hope you don't end up having to use a lot of trades re-balancing your team two weeks into the season.
My 2 cents.
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| | | 164 | Veracity
ID: 58822619
Mon, Oct 28, 2002, 21:31
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R: wink wink, nudge nudge, say no more, say no more.
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| | | 165 | Picadilly
ID: 249492816
Mon, Oct 28, 2002, 21:47
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Thanks Veracity, appreciate it.
I think you made very good points. Investing all 3 stud Fs will not allowed me to utilize their different schedules and benefit from price swings. And it's hard to substitute for them in price and production wise, a 2 trade swap seems inevitable down the road somewhere.
So it's down to this:
G: kobe, arenas, b.jackson, jaric
F: cweb, kg, gooden, miles
C: mccoy, gadzuric
$70,000 left
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| | | 166 | Micheal
ID: 12744225
Mon, Oct 28, 2002, 22:12
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KnicksFan
Regarding Maggette, not much out there. Gentry said this about him:
"Corey? Sure, we'll have him,'' Gentry said. "He's not dead. They didn't put him in the ground did they? Then we'll have him."
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| | | 167 | TwoPumps
ID: 21058102
Mon, Oct 28, 2002, 22:22
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Anyone here anyword on Stoudemire's playing time...personally I think he will outscore the 500k G...now the question is will a mid range G ie.Arenas out score mid range F ie.Gooden, Murphy
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| | | 168 | TaRhEElKiD
ID: 42109719
Mon, Oct 28, 2002, 22:22
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On 2 of my teams I guess I went with quite a bit of a sleeper.
I had Ben Wallace because he is a tremendous player that is very consistent, but due to the lack of $$$ for other moves I went to Kurt Thomas. I realize he isn't a long term hold, but 2 wks looks good to me to start the season. I am head of the trade-a-holic chapter of OK (everyone knows that), and if I hold 1 spot for 2 wks hopefully that will give me trades to hop on $$$ trains.
THK
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| | | 169 | grEEr
ID: 15901611
Mon, Oct 28, 2002, 22:27
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what's a better combo...
Mercer and Brown
or
Hudson and Staudmire
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| | | 170 | TwoPumps
ID: 21058102
Mon, Oct 28, 2002, 22:30
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Ok its down to these two choices....
G:Bobby J,Jaric, Kobe, Hudson
F:TD, KG, Miles, Murphy
C:Gadzuric, McCoy
or
G:Bobby J, Milt P, Arenas, Kobe
F:TD,KG, Stoudemire, Miles,
C:Woods,Gazuric or McCoy
Would love to hear opinions on which team is better
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| | | 171 | Micheal
ID: 12744225
Mon, Oct 28, 2002, 22:30
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Gridden and Neiter.
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| | | 172 | Toronto s Finest
ID: 528511117
Mon, Oct 28, 2002, 22:34
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Can someone confirm if Cweb is playing. Will he start the season on the bench or the floor. The reason I ask is cause the last game against the LAL he didn't play.
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| | | 173 | Micheal
ID: 12744225
Mon, Oct 28, 2002, 22:38
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I like #2.
Stoudemire over Murphy, Palacio over Jaric and definately Arenas over Hudson. Are you holding Miles and TD? What about their sched's?
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| | | 174 | Ender
ID: 13443221
Mon, Oct 28, 2002, 22:40
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I agree with Michael. I like #2 better.
For the record I will be waiting on Duncan until 11/9. I will use the extra money to have Wallace as 1 of my centers. This gives me 1 stud slot at G, F, and C. I feel pretty flexible with that lineup.
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| | | 175 | KnicksFan
Donor
ID: 3974252
Mon, Oct 28, 2002, 22:46
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Wallace is one of my centers...Gadzuric is the other...
Micheal, thanks for the news on Maggette. I think I will take my chances with him. His first 4 or 5 preseason games before the injury were excellent.
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| | | 176 | Ender
ID: 13443221
Mon, Oct 28, 2002, 22:47
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I will ask this though: How do you Amare Stoudemire drafters reconcile his 2 in 10 starting 11/9? I won't tolerate that from any spot no matter how productive he may be in the 2 games.
I can see him racing off to a huge start and people burning trades to get into him only to burn another to get out for that putrid stretch. I guess drafting him saves you the trade in, but you simply HAVE to move him post freeze 11/8 IMO.
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| | | 177 | grEEr
ID: 15901611
Mon, Oct 28, 2002, 22:50
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It will be better to go with 2 cheap centers.
There is alot to pick from, they will $$$ move and produce great points relative to the price. Why spent the money on one of the Walace's when u could have some other studs and leave the centers to cheap players
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| | | 178 | grEEr
ID: 15901611
Mon, Oct 28, 2002, 22:52
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Ne one have feed back on my post (169)???
my thoughs:
Staudimire is comming from High School so he is suspect for a bad season (curry, chalander, brown, kobe, kg)
Hudson is starting but will have a shot rope to work wiht wiht strickland there.
Brown should be great
Mercer he is the one i worrie about, i'll have to trade him off after a week or 2, but i think he could surprize.
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| | | 179 | longhorn4life
ID: 36917172
Mon, Oct 28, 2002, 22:53
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"This gives me 1 stud slot at G, F, and C. I feel pretty flexible with that lineup. "
I believe that is what he meant.
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| | | 180 | The Collenium
ID: 38922223
Mon, Oct 28, 2002, 23:02
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Palacio, Jaric, Gino, and Satterfield
Gooden, T-Murph, Kwame, Radmonovic
McCoy, Gazuric
All for the low, low price of 14.3 million. I say pocket the other 35 million and take the Mrs. dancing.
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| | | 181 | grEEr
ID: 15901611
Mon, Oct 28, 2002, 23:16
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lol
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| | | 182 | qwert
ID: 29121518
Mon, Oct 28, 2002, 23:16
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re 180
i refuse to write lol, but that was funny.
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| | | 183 | Rand al'Thor
ID: 364152215
Mon, Oct 28, 2002, 23:18
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rotflmao!
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| | | 184 | Ender
ID: 13443221
Mon, Oct 28, 2002, 23:47
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grEEr, I think you need to learn relative value. By having Wallace I will be getting guaranteed points at a position that other people will have a 500K 20 TSNp/g (if you're lucky). Wallace should average close to twice that. Sure he's more expensive, but I can find cheap productive forwards much easier than I can find cheap productive centers. I have played that game and I despise it.
What I'm saying is I will be making points at Center that you will be chasing with your cheapies. I can also find a cheap forward that is closer to stud production than your cheap center will be relative to Wallace. Essentially, Wallace (39 TSNP/g last year) and Drew Gooden (25-30 TSNP/G) should be about 10 TSNP/g better than a combo of a stud forward and a cheap center. This is of course my opinion and you can feel free to disagree, but I say it is not as simple as you make it sound. You seem to firmly believe that the McCoy's of the world will post better than 20 TSNP/g when history has shown that they will almost never do that.
Another advantage that Wallace gives me is that I can slide him to F to replace whichever forward (gooden? brown? murphy?) busts and pickup a cheap center if they are that darn good.
Early flexibility will be key. Having players at a variety of prices and who can play multiple positions (when possible) and some left over cash will be extremely beneficial. I will be able to adjust on the fly and maintain efficency.
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| | | 185 | grEEr
ID: 15901611
Mon, Oct 28, 2002, 23:53
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you make a strong point, I should probably do that on one of my rosters. It's just hard to pick a guy that scores less than 10pts...lol
Your way Point production may be better, but i'll probably make more $$$.
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| | | 186 | grEEr
ID: 15901611
Mon, Oct 28, 2002, 23:53
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you make a strong point, I should probably do that on one of my rosters. It's just hard to pick a guy that scores less than 10pts...lol
Your way Point production may be better, but i'll probably make more $$$.
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| | | 187 | Ender
ID: 13443221
Mon, Oct 28, 2002, 23:57
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Why do you think you would make more money? If even one of the cheap centers is productive and turns into a mony maker I will miss out on 100K or 200K at most. I'll make that up without any trouble at all.
Money is important, and the sooner you make the money, the longer it will pay off. However, points count the same all year long. More points now are worth just as much as more points later.
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| | | 188 | grEEr
ID: 15901611
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 00:08
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How does your roster look??? Other than Walace, who supports the rest of your team.
I can't say for certain, i'll make more $$$ then u with out knowing your other players. I seems tons of people will be relying on cheap centers, so there gonna move in price alot.
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| | | 189 | longhorn4life
ID: 36917172
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 00:13
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I agree with you greer that the cheapie centers might move some money, but that doesn't change the fact that it would require trades in order to rotate trains with busts, and it would be negligible affect point wise. Forwards on the other hand will make money as well but the points gained will be more significant (in theory).
CMIIW
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| | | 190 | TaRhEElKiD
ID: 42109719
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 00:15
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Re: 184
Very well said. Cheap C's is NOT the way to go. I went with Kurt Thomas (had Wallace at one point); and I think he could produce 35 TSNP with McDyess out and the Knicks with a decent schedule in the first 2 wks.
Any thoughts on Kurt? I think he is a solid sleeper, but nobody is saying much about him.
BTW-I have Woods as my other C, but I guess you almost have to have 1 cheap C to begin unless you have Dirk, Wallace, Kurt (IMO), Shaq (in years before or later on)...
THK
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| | | 191 | grEEr
ID: 15901611
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 00:16
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I see it like this....forget gaurds for the moment.
My team:
My KG-TD combo will score a ton, and i'l also have 2 other price moving fowards SAY (Miles and Brwon), while my center will have some big nights ans some weak ones.
Walace is good no question, but with my roster i have a potential HUGE BUST OUT potential from eitehr of my big guys, $$$ and great play from my cheap fowards and $$$ and decent production fomr my cheap centers.
As i said it hard ot gaduge weather my strat is better becasue i don;t know your team.
However u make a strong case and i might adopt this strat on one of my teams...
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| | | 192 | Ender
ID: 13443221
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 00:18
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Here's an imalgum of my various rosters, that is as a whole they look something like this:
G: TMac, Arenas, B. Jackson, Palacio
F: KG, Gooden, Brown, Murphy
C: Wallace, cheapy
I don't necessarily expect those players to make money themselves (though some will). What is key IMO is that I can easily swap to the players who ARE making money. I can flip Wallace to F and pick up another cheap C if necessary. I can upgrade or downgrade Pilacio with leftover funds if he busts and a different cheap guard emerges. I simply can't predict what will happen, but I can create a roster that allows me to shift to what is happening.
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| | | 193 | TaRhEElKiD
ID: 42109719
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 00:18
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Cheap C's will move...A LOT...the key is, which WAY?!?
UP ONE DAY
DOWN THE NEXT
UP ONE DAY
UP ANOTHER DAY
OH CRAP, DOWN THE NEXT
DOWN
DOWN
ROCK BOTTOM
WHO, 40 tsnp! UP
UP
UP
3.5 tsnp! wtf!?! DOWN
DOWN
DOWN
Obviously this isn't exactly what happens!...but those of you who have played many times before...am I not close? lol
I.E. - You can't rely on C's to make your $$$...they are too inconsistent.
THK
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| | | 194 | TaRhEElKiD
ID: 42109719
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 00:21
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Ender-
Our teams look similar. But no more looking at it for me. I will be back on tomorrow afternoon at 5 EST, make final adjustments and decisions...sit back, and WATCH!
Good luck for a great season everyone! I am excited and can't wait to enjoy another season here...
THK
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| | | 195 | Ender
ID: 13443221
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 00:24
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THK makes another good point. A cheap center may gain 120K the second day because of a big game, but it's a roller coaster ride. The tide will shift and you'll be chasing the next one.
I do concede that in order to have the studs you are almost forced to go 500K somewhere and surely 1 of those 3 will emerge as a viable 20 TSNP/g option. I just don't claim to know who it will be.
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| | | 196 | jedman
Sustainer
ID: 40746414
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 00:33
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Certainly looks like the backcourt of choice is:
T-Mac,Arenas,Jackson,Palacio.
I have Kobe on a team and I'm getting Andre Miller on a team, just to stop the boredom.
There always has been and will continue to be more whining about cheapie centers than anything else. That's what makes this game so fun.
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| | | 197 | grEEr
ID: 15901611
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 00:33
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Endure i like your roster, as was pondering something similar...but....
I just can't stand leaving out TD and Miles (great early scheduls) i think there both gonna be amazing...
With my approach i'll be able ot save trades (hoping the centers will stick). Your roster will need changes becasue not all those guys will all pan out.
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| | | 198 | TaRhEElKiD
ID: 42109719
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 00:34
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I believe waiting to jump on "the 500k option" that turns into a decent pt producer is the better way to go I believe. That way you won't have to be riding 2-3 of them and waiting to see which one pans out. I can move into the 1st $$$ train easily without worrying which one to move out of at the same time.
THK
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| | | 199 | Blooki
ID: 6838118
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 00:36
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grEEr,
Exactly what makes Ender's choices more likely to pan out than your choices? I think he has pretty safe bets there.
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| | | 200 | Blooki
ID: 6838118
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 00:37
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Safe being used as a relative term in the sense that they are just as safe as any others that I see right now.
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| | | 201 | Dunkenstein
ID: 249534
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 00:37
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After much serious consideration (perhaps too much) I decided upon the following strategy and resulting line-up.
Strategy: One stud and at least one cheapy at each position. This gives me the most flexibility in trading down the road.
Studs: Kobe, KG and Wallace. Wallace gives me the additional flexibility of being movable to forward, should more than one of the cheap centers pan out.
Cheap Guard: Palacio. Like all of us, I toyed with Jaric and Gino, but I see both of them as back-ups playing 15-20 minutes per game. I was intrigued by Giricek, but his hip injury and the return of Dickerson, as well as the possibility that the Grizzlies' overload at forward could send Battier back to SG, turned me off of him. I settled on Palacio--he'll start for the Cavs and doesn't seem to have serious competition for minutes at present.
Cheap Forwards: Kwame and Murphy. They've both emerged in the pre-season as starters and should get good TSN points for the money with their respectable opening schedules. I considered Gooden long and hard, but I think Memphis' depth could possibly keep him from starting, which would result in limiting his playing time.
Cheap Center: Woods. I looked at McCoy and Gadzuric, but I think once JYD and Przybilla get healthy, they might not see the playing time they got in the pre-season. Plus neither has a very good opening schedule. Unless Flip decides to start Peeler, move Wally to the 3 and KG to the 4, Woods should get the starting nod at the 4 and decent playing time. Plus he's got a very nice opening schedule.
Mid-priced guards: B. Jackson and Hudson. In truth, I like Arenas better than Hudson. I just couldn't fit him under the cap. With Bibby's injury, Jackson will put up some nice numbers. And even though the Wolves have signed Rod Strickland, I believe Flip when he says Hudson is his starter and will get good minutes. Until such time as Hudson fails to prove worthy of starting, I think Rod will get 15-20 minutes coming off the bench.
Mid-priced Forward: Miles. I think Darius will be the Most Improved Player in the league and will be considered a stud before the season ends.
My only real concern with this line-up is that there are three players from Minnesota, but I can't figure a way around it.
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| | | 202 | KnicksFan
Donor
ID: 3974252
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 00:39
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Ender, Re: 176
I have Bonzi Wells at guard, so when Stoudemire's schedule goes south, I can swing Bonzi to Forward and pick up whichever cheap guard is leaving the station. I can also do this earlier if Amare is not panning out and there looks to be a solid guard to switch into.
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| | | 203 | grEEr
ID: 15901611
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 00:39
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Well, seeing as i bought more than one team i might as well gamble and go with two completly different strats.
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| | | 204 | KnicksFan
Donor
ID: 3974252
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 00:41
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greer, I am sorta wishing I had bought more than one team this season because right now I am pulling my hair out about which way to go. Usually I have 2 or more teams, of which one becomes my main focus. Now I need to be lucky.
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| | | 205 | TwoPumps
ID: 21058102
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 00:43
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I like A-Stoudamire chances....I mean who does he really have to battle PT with... Googs...LANGHLI?...Casey Jacobsen?...Voshkul?...I mean these are not guys that are going ot be tearing it up...Stodamire has every chance to get to see a lot of PT...with very little of quality NBA players to steal that playing time. Every other 500K guy whether it be Jaric and Dre,Q-Rich,Magette,Piatkowski or Ginobilli..with Parker and Speedy...or Gireck with Dickerson and Person..the other have established NBA talent stealing minutes...For Stoudemire the door is wide open for him to grab hold as at least the first or second option at F for the Suns...cause honestly what the Suns have a t Forward right now is down right ugly!...
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| | | 206 | Ender
ID: 13443221
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 00:47
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The beauty of 5 teams :)
Please understand that I don't think my roster is THE roster to have. I simply have learned that I will draft some solid players and I WILL have at least 1 bust. I am prepared to handle it with a flexible roster, that's all.
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| | | 207 | Blooki
ID: 6838118
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 00:51
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Dunkenstein, RE: 201
3 players from Minny ain't all bad. Last year, I drafted Payton, Lewis, Barry, and Mason on one team and, other than the unfortunate (and totally unforeseeable) injury to Rashard Lewis, my team turned out alright. I eventually had to move Mason because $2mil for 20 TSNP wasn't cutting it when other options became more attractive, but I think you get the idea. If Rashard hadn't gotten hurt, 3-4 Sonics could've produced fine for their respective prices given their awesome schedule.
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| | | 208 | KnicksFan
Donor
ID: 3974252
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 01:00
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Oh I also have Maggette as a GF that I can switch with Stoudemire.
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| | | 209 | Ender
ID: 13443221
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 01:01
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Makes sense to me, Knicksfan.
I have said for awhile that multiple positions will be huge for flexibility purposes.
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| | | 210 | goraiders
ID: 41103993
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 02:46
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every depth chart i've seen recently has bimbo coles starting over palacio in cleveland. is that true? if so, why is everyone so high on palacio when coles is cheaper?
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| | | 211 | Micheal
ID: 27938177
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 03:06
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This one has Palacio starting.
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| | | 212 | goraiders
ID: 41103993
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 03:08
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thanks micheal.
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| | | 213 | G-MAN
ID: 28758304
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 05:10
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ok, i have to make a decision between these two combos in the backcourt (Arenas and bjackson are fixed):
Wells/Maggette
or
Stockton/Ward
I don't wanna go with a 500 buck guard (Giricek, Jaric, Ginobili) and Palacio seems to be one of three point guards in Cle with Coles as a starter an S.Parker pushing in for playing time):
"The starting lineup will be Bimbo Coles, Darius Miles and Ricky Davis with big men Diop and Tyrone Hill." (http://www.ohio.com/mld/ohio/sports/basketball/nba/cleveland_cavaliers/4393587.htm)
The other question is how many minutes will Bonzi and corey receive in their teams. I hope for 31 min. for bonzi and 33 min. for corey. What do you think? And have you other guard-combos under 9$..?
Thank you for your opinions!
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| | | 214 | albo222
Donor
ID: 541025107
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 06:46
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My 27th "final" roster
arenas
stoudamire
b jackson
giricek
garnett
hill
miles
gooden
wallace
woods
Any comments?
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| | | 215 | Micheal
ID: 27938177
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 07:52
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Only 27?
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| | | 216 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 07:53
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According to today's Akron Beacon Journal, Bimbo Coles will start at PG for the Cavs, not Palacio.
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| | | 217 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 07:56
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Today's Cleveland Plain Dealer also says that Coles will start.
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| | | 218 | Micheal
ID: 27938177
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 07:58
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G-MAN
Wells / Maggette
Stockton will still produce, but I just don't see Ward as having any TSN fantasy value.
Wells has a great schedule and will produe almost 30 a game and I think Maggette will get 25.
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| | | 219 | twopumps
ID: 4492915
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 08:33
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Wow...this Coles starting sure throws a wrench into a whole bunch of teams...does Coles become the cheap option now...will people hop over to Satterfield....let the mad scrabbling begin!!...4 hours!
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| | | 220 | Myboyjack
Leader
ID: 14826271
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 08:39
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G Tracy McGrady
G Kobe Bryant
G Charlie Ward
G Jammal Crawford
F Tim Duncan
F Darius Miles
F Troy Murphy
F Drew Gooden
C Eddy Curry
C Jelanie McCoy
Any of these guys in jail, in the hospital or waived?
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| | | 221 | deepsnapper
Sustainer
ID: 321115310
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 08:45
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RE: 219 - From the website: roster freeze
Every day during the regular season at 12pm EST. Exception: On Opening Day, Tuesday, October 29, the roster freeze will be at 7pm EST
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| | | 222 | jshrauner
ID: 457412218
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 09:07
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A couple of useful blurbs to help some people:
"After practice, coach Bill Cartwright announced Jay Williams had won the starting point guard position over Jamal Crawford, that Trenton Hassell had beaten out Eddie Robinson at small forward and that Jalen Rose, Tyson Chandler and Eddy Curry also will start Wednesday in Boston." Chicago Tribune
RE: 220
I wouldn't go with Crawford. If you can't afford a guard like Palicao or Coles(not sure what the situation is) or go with one of the 500K guards like Jaric.
"Timberwolves forward Joe Smith, projected to be a starter before he injured his groin four days into training camp, will begin the regular season on the injured list. Under NBA rules, he must be inactive for at least five games, but coach Flip Saunders said Smith might not be ready to play for another month. "He didn't come into camp in great shape, (and) he hasn't gone through any camp," Saunders said. "He'll be two weeks away (from playing) when he really starts practicing." St Paul Pioneer Press
This makes me feel a little more comfortable with Woods at center, knowing that Smith could be out until next month.
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| | | 223 | Crunk
ID: 24943117
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 09:08
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This article on today's Plains Dealer says Palacio will start....who knows???
So will guard Milt Palacio. Palacio, acquired by the Cavs from Phoenix for a future second-round pick, survived as the starting point guard during a fierce battle during training camp. He'll be backed up by veteran Bimbo Coles and surprise rookie free-agent Smush Parker.
Palacio starting
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| | | 224 | jshrauner
ID: 457412218
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 09:08
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Sorry, I forgot the link.
NBA Rumors
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| | | 225 | p...
ID: 1545375
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 09:14
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Actually, twopumps, the freeze isnt until 7. I plan on sticking by Palacio because he is bound to see significant minutes. And none of the others seem to appeal to me.
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| | | 226 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 09:14
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Swell - so there are two articles in today's Plain Dealer. One says Coles will start, and the other says Palacio will start.
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| | | 227 | Dunkenstein
ID: 249534
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 09:19
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With the Cleveland papers reporting that Palacio didn't get the starting nod, I decided to trade him for Giricek who has returned from his hip injury, according to the Memphis paper. This also allows me to move from Hudson to Arenas.
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| | | 228 | Micheal
ID: 27938177
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 09:20
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Apparently someone screwed up and the freeze is 7AM. That stupid am/pm button musta got 'em.
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| | | 229 | The Collenium
ID: 38922223
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 09:22
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So much for "plain dealing"...
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| | | 230 | jenson
ID: 54917297
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 09:22
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i'm thinking about starting hill, this is what my line up looks like, any suggestions are more than welcome:
guards: T-Mac, kobe, bobby jackson and troy hudson
forwards: hill, miles, gooden and k. brown
centers: curry and woods
with this roster i have 1.3mil cash left so it's flexible and i can jump on early money trains, let me know what you think
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| | | 231 | GolfFreak
Donor
ID: 559171412
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 09:25
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Dunkenstein
what memphis paper?????
GF
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| | | 232 | p...
ID: 1545375
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 09:26
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Meanwhile, Danny Fortson, whom Musselman said Friday was due back Sunday, remains out of town for personal reasons. Fortson, who has not been with the team since Oct. 19, is said to be attending to a family illness in Pennsylvania. His agent, Raymond Brothers, did not return calls seeking comment.
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| | | 233 | p...
ID: 1545375
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 09:27
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This article was written on Oct. 28th meaning Fortson, as of now is still out of town and has not practiced with the team for a long time now.
link
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| | | 234 | Dunkenstein
ID: 249534
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 09:28
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From the Akron Beacon-Journal:
Lucas goes with Coles instead of Palacio at start. One of the more entertaining battles for the Cavaliers during the preseason was between veteran point guards Bimbo Coles and Milt Palacio.
Coach John Lucas gave the starting nod to Coles, a 13-year NBA veteran, on Monday.``You could take either one, but I just decided that Bimbo has been here the longest,'' Lucas said. ``They both played well during camp.''
I tend to believe this article because it includes a quote from Lucas.
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| | | 235 | jenson
ID: 54917297
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 09:29
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i'm considering trading hudson for arenas, but then, i'll only have 280k left what do you guys think?
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| | | 236 | Dan L
ID: 47920298
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 09:30
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OK guys....If you were going with just one, who would it be: Webber, Duncan, or KG???
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| | | 237 | p...
ID: 1545375
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 09:30
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Do it!
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| | | 238 | WeBeJammin
ID: 315461412
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 09:34
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Coles starts over Palacio, according to Rotoworld
For some reason, the link won't work. But got to Guru's "player lookup", pull up Palacio, and then click on Rotoworld at the top.
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| | | 239 | Dunkenstein
ID: 249534
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 09:35
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Grizzlie Camp Report:
Although the Griz have nursed nagging injuries, there was nearly a full complement of players on the court for Monday's practice. Notable was the return of Croatian swingman Gordan Giricek (sore hip), rookie Robert Archibald (sore ankle) and Lorenzen Wright (sore knee). Forward Stromile Swift did not practice because of the flu.
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| | | 240 | twopumps
ID: 4492915
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 09:36
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Nobody is entertaining the thought of switching from Milt P to Satterfield?
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| | | 241 | Dunkenstein
ID: 249534
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 09:37
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Dan, I went with KG.
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| | | 242 | Micheal
ID: 27938177
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 09:37
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Not with that 3 in 10.
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| | | 244 | Bernard
ID: 34922298
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 09:40
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anybody looking at cherokee parks as a cheapie? any suggestions between parks and rooks?
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| | | 245 | SweetGP20
ID: 589372821
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 09:45
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If that's indeed the case, it just goes to show what a moron Lucas is as a coach. It just doesnt make any sense at all. Palacio played a lot of minutes in the preseason and played well and really earned the starting job. Now on the opening day Lucas just flat out decided to give that job to someone who has 8 assists in 6 games.
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| | | 246 | JCS
ID: 2393814
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 09:46
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Re 222 jshrauner : another thing to keep in mind about Woods is, since Joe Smith will miss at least the first 5 games, and considering Woods was the starter at PF in the last preseason games, we can reasonably assume that he'll continue to start at PF until Joe Smith comes back. What that means for us is that Loren Woods should normally be eligible at F too after his first 5 games if the guys at TSN do their job correctly.
I thought this was interesting and this hasn't been mentioned on the forum yet.
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| | | 247 | grEEr.
ID: 29918298
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 09:49
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with the news reguarding CLE gaurds, it makes them a risky option. Mabey going with Satterfield is better (chris witney is hurt, pretty sure).
CLE has that great sch. though NE more news???
Personally i don't see how they would give the point to coles, who was brutal in the preseason. While Palacio actually did some decent work.
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| | | 248 | Bernard
ID: 34922298
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 09:51
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hey, anybody have any thoughts on radmanovic vs. devean george? With Fox out, he may get some quality minutes at the 3 to start the season.
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| | | 249 | SweetGP20
ID: 589372821
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 09:56
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I'd probably pick Radmanovic. Even though he's not gonna be a starter, he'd still get 35 minutes per game (10 min at SF, and 25 min at PF). He'll certainly be involved in the Sonics offensense a lot. The guy plays tough defense too.
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| | | 250 | GolfFreak
Donor
ID: 559171412
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 09:58
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thanks DUNK
GF
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| | | 251 | twopumps
ID: 4492915
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 09:58
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I hear Tracey Murray will probably start at SF with George off the bench. I would definatly go with Vlad Rad.
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| | | 252 | twopumps
ID: 4492915
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 09:59
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Is there another option to consider besider Satterfield, Coles, Palacio at the 1 million range?
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| | | 253 | Micheal
ID: 27938177
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 10:00
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What are you going to do with Satterfield during his 3 in 10?
And it's "maybe",dammit.
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| | | 254 | Hamid Toliyat
ID: 3893549
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 10:09
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Looking like Milt and Bimbo will both get 20-25 minutes.
I'm sticking with Milt and letting it pan out.
CMIIW
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| | | 255 | twopumps
ID: 4492915
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 10:16
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Who's backing up Ricky Davis?...might it be possible to see a Palacio Coles back court at times...I still think Palacio will get more PT especially in lop sided games like the game tonight might be. But the news today makes him a riskier pick.
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| | | 256 | penngray
Donor
ID: 453492921
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 10:42
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Dajuan Wagner is backup to Ricky Davis.
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| | | 257 | twopumps
ID: 4492915
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 10:45
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But Wagner..is hurt right now
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| | | 258 | penngray
Donor
ID: 453492921
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 10:57
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Is he? It says he is questionable for the opener. Blood clots is the problem so it might be longer.
Not that it matters to me ;)
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| | | 259 | twopumps
ID: 4492915
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 11:04
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Not that it matters to me either but I think he is starting on IL...which could mean a few more minutes for Palacio and Coles
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| | | 260 | Bernard
ID: 34922298
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 11:08
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I'm sticking with Palacio, if coles plays like he did in the preseason, which he will, it will take about a quarter and a half before palacio is seeing most of the minutes
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| | | 261 | C.C. SOLDIERS@work
ID: 23936299
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 11:12
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Alright guys. So youu tink i should go with Ben Wallace over Rasheed and Karl Malone. Any new word on the point guard position in Cleveland?
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| | | 262 | Bernard
ID: 34922298
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 11:13
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anybody know if eddy curry is going to get minutes, I know he's listed as the starter, but I have a hard time believeing he'll play much
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| | | 263 | Memphis Fan
ID: 36851518
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 11:14
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Wagner is out a couple months last I read. But yeah, he's not suited to run the point. (yet)
Uck. I just don't know, im debating between Milt and Bimbo. I can just see Bimbo getting the load of minutes. They were resting him in preseason, and becoming the #1 mover from people switching from Milt.
Whats everyone think? I mean, there HAS to be a reason Bimbo is starting, he has to be better.
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| | | 264 | Bernard
ID: 34922298
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 11:15
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I would take rasheed and malone over ben wallace and a cheapie, karl is a consistent 22 and 10, and rasheed, although you never know, can have a lot of big nights
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| | | 265 | penngray
Donor
ID: 453492921
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 11:19
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The reason according to the coach was that Bimbo has more experience.
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| | | 266 | penngray
Donor
ID: 453492921
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 11:20
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I think Milt and Bimbo are both going to SUCK! but since I can only spend around 1 mil on my G position. I am stuck with one of them.
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| | | 267 | penngray
Donor
ID: 453492921
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 11:23
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CC. Rasheed plays 9 games in the next 2 weeks (1 the week after).
If you want the max # games go with Rasheed, maybe we will become more consistent also remember Pippen is hurt so Rasheed might get more touches.
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| | | 268 | penngray
Donor
ID: 453492921
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 11:26
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some chicago stuff
"After practice, coach Bill Cartwright announced Jay Williams had won the starting point guard position over Jamal Crawford, that Trenton Hassell had beaten out Eddie Robinson at small forward and that Jalen Rose, Tyson Chandler and Eddy Curry also will start Wednesday in Boston." Chicago Tribune
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| | | 269 | Mattinglyinthehall
ID: 1832399
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 11:38
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Surprised there hasn't been much talk about Stromile Swift. F/C making the most of his preseason minutes and reasonably priced. I guess the consensus is that his PT will drop off in the regular season? This is my second year playing any fantasy basketball game, last year's basic game being my first. Here's my roster.
Payton, Gary SEA $10,240,000
G Stoudamire, Damon POR $4,750,000
G Jackson, Bobby SAC $4,040,000
G Giricek, Gordan MEM $500,000
F Garnett, Kevin MIN $11,100,000
F Webber, Chris SAC $10,660,000
F Gooden, Drew MEM $3,000,000
F Murphy, Troy GS $2,680,000
C Samake, Soumaila LAL $990,000
C McCoy, Jelani TOR $500,000
I've got $1.54m left.
The plan is to play it safe, sticking strictly to teams with strong opening schedules. Toying with the idea of downgrading a guard so as to move Murphy or Gooden for Swift.
Critiques welcome.
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| | | 270 | Memphis Fan
ID: 36851518
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 11:41
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Mattinglyinthehall:
Swift is hurt, and also the 5th forward/center option. (Battier/Gasol/Gooden/Wright)
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| | | 271 | C.C. SOLDIERS@work
ID: 23936299
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 11:45
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Beware of that Center for the Lakers. I read somewhere that the 3rd string guy would also get minutes. Thats gonna be a wait and see project. Is C-Webb gonna play in the opener?
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| | | 272 | Mattinglyinthehall
ID: 1832399
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 11:47
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Thanks guys. I thought Swift was just with flu symptoms and I read yesterday that CWebb is expected to play in the opener. I do think I rememeber getting burned last year on Webber not coming back from injury when expected.
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| | | 273 | Bernard
ID: 34922298
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 11:52
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Even if webber plays tonight, I'm passing on him until he has a few games under his belt since there are other studs that are good options
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| | | 274 | Jazz Dreamers
Sustainer
ID: 38948228
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 12:27
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Have just found time to put a roster together (nothing like waiting 'til the last minute), but it probably looks very similar to ones already posted. For what it's worth:
G - Bryant, Arenas, Jackson, Maggette
F - Duncan, G. Hill, Miles, Murphy (or Gooden)
C - Samake (or Gadzuric), Woods
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| | | 275 | Bob
ID: 478422620
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 12:38
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CC and Pennygray, regarding Rasheed Wallace:
I know that preseason isn't a real gauge of regular season performance...but have you checked out Rasheed's preseason stats? He had mediocre stats and was inconsistent at best.....at least not good enough for a Forward that costs $7.77 mil.
I was considering Rasheed...but then backed off because of his preseason performance. The only consistent performer that I see on Portland is Bonzi Wells. For now, I have picked Bonzi up on my initial roster and the good thing about Bonzi is that he is a G/F.
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| | | 276 | Bernie Slim
ID: 418102120
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 12:43
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Roster A:
Kobe
T-Mac
Arenas
Palacio
Garnett
Miles
Hill
Stoudemire
Woods
McCoy
Roster B:
Kobe
Ward
Coles
Arenas
Duncan
Webber
Hill
Radmanovic
Blount
McCoy
Simple Question, which one do you like more, A or B
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| | | 277 | pt
ID: 599472911
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 12:51
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C!
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| | | 278 | WeBeJammin
ID: 315461412
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 12:52
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I'm set with one of my two teams:
G: McGrady, Arenas, Jackson, Maggette
F: Garnett, Miles, Gooden, Murphy
C: Clark, Woods
$.57 left
Maggette (G/F), Clark (F/C), and Woods (soon to be F/C) give me a lot of flexibility.
McGrady starts with 4 in 5. Since there are mostly long term holds on this team, I can then move him into a cheapie G who takes off early and then pick up Wallace if one of the Fs or Cs start poorly. Only 2 studs, but lots of mid range guys who can take off. And lots of options.
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| | | 279 | The Collenium
ID: 38922223
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 12:52
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Hey Guys, just a quick favor...
Could alot of you out there with Arenas, Miles, and Woods on you teams drop them until after the roster freeze and then move right back into them? I would really appreciate it.
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| | | 280 | Rand al Thor
ID: 83231216
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 13:14
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Bernie Slim, I would say A team is better. I look at your B team and immediately I see alot of players with question marks. Go with the safest bets to start the season. And your A team comes closer in my eyes. I wouldn't start the season with both TMac and Hill though. Next week they will probably both take a big RV hit at the same time. Of course, my chance of being right is slim to none. And Slim's out of town.
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| | | 281 | Tree
ID: 599393013
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 13:24
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unless something happens, i'm looking at these opening day rosters...thoughts?
RVD team:
g: Kobe, Hamilton, Knight, Giricek
f: Garnett, Nowitzki, Gooden, Humphrey
c: Divac, S. Bradley
Low-Ki team:
g: Stockton, J. Williams (MEM), Welsch, Giricek
f: Nowitzki, G. Hill, Gooden, K. Brown
c: J. O'Neal, Divac
Guapo Shocker team:
g: Kobe, J. Williams (MEM), Welsch, Giricek
f: Nowitzki, J. O'Neal, Gooden, K. Brown
c: Wallace, S. Bradley...
thoughts?
Peace,
Tree
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| | | 282 | cmav
ID: 9913298
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 14:04
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Alright, it scares me that i have a couple players no one has mentioned, but i'll try to explain them and I welcome any thoughts.
G- T-MAC
G- Ginobili
G- Mercer
G- Arenas
F- Ben Wallace
F- Miles
F- Murphy
F- Brown
C- Ratliff
C- Olowakandi
Now, while everyone is taking cheap centers, I really think these two c's are going to blow up and will gain value as well as rack up major points. What does everybody think about Yao anyways? I opted for Brown instead of Gooden because I don't like to start out with too many rookies, since it's almost a crap shoot who's going to crash. But Gino should pan out and I think he's a solid option at Guard for SA. Mercer may be one dimensional, but he always bursts out points and should increase in value for a little bit.
I didn't get KG or TD just yet because they seem to initially drop in price because everyone drops them when they're not consistently having monster 80tsnp games. Some of my mid-range players should increase in value, which will allow me to shift up to C-Webb (I like to see how his health is after a couple weeks in) TD, or KG.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
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| | | 283 | Bob
ID: 478422620
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 14:28
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Joe Smith appears to be out for a month ( Duh ):
http://www.twincities.com/mld/pioneerpress/sports/basketball/nba/minnesota_timberwolves/4391780.htm
Although this means that Loren Woods will get the nod at PF ( which is a plus ), this translates into the much needed consistent 20+ minutes for Marc Jackson.....another cheapie Center option ( which I view as a better option then Jelani McCoy ).
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| | | 284 | Bob
ID: 478422620
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 14:52
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Sorry...to clarify the last point....Marc Jackson's schedule ( 5-3-4 )is alot better then Jelani McCoy's schedule ( 4-3-3 ).
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| | | 285 | G-MAN
ID: 28758304
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 15:36
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I still can't decide between my last two guards. Should i go with
Wells/Maggette
Ward/Stockton
Hughes/Derek Anderson
I have $ 9.26 to spent for these two positions (and i'm already have bjackson and arenas). My problem is that my feelings tell me that Maggette will not see so many TSN with guards and sf like Richardson, Jaric, Piatkowski and Miller around. And i have the same problems with the Portland guards. What Do you think?
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| | | 286 | Blooki
ID: 6838118
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 15:38
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I'd go Maggette/Wells. Maggette can average upper 20s as a starting SF and the versatility you have w/ their G/F eligibility is a nice bonus.
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| | | 287 | DR Stars
ID: 449201814
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 15:55
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I´m going Maggete/Wells in one or two of my teams as well...
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| | | 288 | G-MAN
ID: 28758304
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 17:36
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OK. Thanks. I will take them.....
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| | | 289 | grEEr
ID: 15901611
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 17:37
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Is Baron Davis out....??? i might
might go Alexander instead od Coles on one team.
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| | | 290 | penngray
Donor
ID: 453492921
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 17:40
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Mccoy will be the 6th man of the year ;)
I remember when Keon came off the bench he was awesome.
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| | | 291 | Picadilly
ID: 249492816
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 17:45
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it has come down to this:
Option A: palacio and mccoy
Option B: 500k G and woods
if it's B than it's likely to be Jaric
pls do a quick vote! thanks
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| | | 292 | KnicksFan
Donor
ID: 439341814
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 17:47
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b
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| | | 293 | Samuli
ID: 3296416
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 17:48
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#291:
At this point, both options are equally bad/good... It really comes down to these mythical "guts" I reckon. Good luck.
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| | | 294 | penngray
Donor
ID: 453492921
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 17:49
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I agree and I will wait 4 days to make my pick.
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| | | 295 | grEEr
ID: 15901611
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 17:55
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with the cash left o can go
(mercer or alexander) which one is hte best option???
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| | | 296 | TwoPumps
ID: 21058102
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 17:55
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Oh come on we are not comparing McCoy and Keon...
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| | | 297 | bd
Donor
ID: 261033715
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 17:57
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Picadilly, I don't know how much (if at all) it effects your situation, but Jerome Williams was added to the NBA injury report today (hamstring) out indefinately. Mccoy may get more playing time. http://www.jimfeist.com/Corner/Injuries.asp?Sport=NBA
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| | | 298 | penngray
Donor
ID: 453492921
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 17:58
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its not a far stretch. Keon wasnt that good before either.
I still think McCoy will be a top .50 mil player ;)
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| | | 299 | grEEr
ID: 15901611
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 18:02
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guys, Mercer or Alexander??? (assumiong u had to pick one)!!!
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| | | 300 | TwoPumps
ID: 21058102
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 18:05
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Keon had some raw skill...but no oppurtuinty...McCoy has been given chances to start and fallen flat on his face. He will be a good 500k option but he is no Keon.
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| | | 301 | Picadilly
ID: 249492816
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 18:06
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Mercer at least he's a sure starter til reggie comes back. Alexander might not start afterall
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| | | 302 | grEEr
ID: 15901611
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 18:12
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Yeah, Mercer is a safer bet. I can see Alexander breaking out and having a huge season (taking the starting role.
Mercer will score, If he chipes in a few (stl with the odd reb or ast) he'll be a nice pick and could get 25tsnp a game.
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| | | 303 | Picadilly
ID: 249492816
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 18:14
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greer: which paper you found out mccoy will start? i have the star and it didn't say and what is jyd's condition?
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| | | 304 | penngray
Donor
ID: 453492921
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 18:33
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McCoy is not starting.
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| | | 305 | AHSbball05
ID: 34992216
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 18:55
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would you rather have mccoy, kg and brown or webber, woods, murphy? hurry! thanx
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| | | 306 | Bob
ID: 478422620
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 18:57
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Webber woods murphy
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| | | 307 | KnicksFan
Donor
ID: 439341814
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 18:57
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you shouldnt risk it this close before freeze..just stick with what you have
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| | | 308 | Micheal
ID: 12744225
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 19:00
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That's it. Roster freeze. Does everyone like what they have?
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| | | 309 | KnicksFan
Donor
ID: 439341814
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 19:03
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still won't let me see the frozen rosters in my division.
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| | | 310 | Bob
ID: 478422620
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 19:08
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For those that haven't picked up Bonzi...anyone planning on picking him up tomorrow?
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| | | 311 | Micheal
ID: 12744225
Tue, Oct 29, 2002, 19:13
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You can see rosters now.
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