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| Posted by: Chuck
- [542531619] Thu, Mar 18, 2004, 12:25
This is my favorite fantasy sport that I'm involved in. I think it has something to do with my success.
In 2002, I finished 7th
In 2003, I finished 6th
In 2004, I finished ???
Anyway, I figured with the first game up, this would be a good thread to track progress. |
| | | 1 | StLCards
Leader
ID: 31010716
Thu, Mar 18, 2004, 12:47
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Guess I should try running the simulator first. The way I filled in the bracket does and the resulting scores doesn't match my longs and shorts too well. No wonder I do so poorly. Yeah, that must be it!
I didn't play last year, which is probably my best finish yet ;)
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| | | 2 | Gmoney
Donor
ID: 5810561615
Thu, Mar 18, 2004, 13:06
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I wasn't going to play but I kept thinking as I read the rules that my name was appearing over and over and over.
As a result I just had to give this a try:
* (The units themselves have no residual value once the tournament is over, so the only thing of lasting value will be your stash of G$.)
* Your units plus any residual G$ are your contest portfolio
* then the #8 seeded team will win G$16
Eerie,
G$
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| | | 3 | Deadeyes
ID: 18115269
Thu, Mar 18, 2004, 13:12
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Gmoney,
Wnat to bet i will beat you. I did a very simple strategy.
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| | | 5 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Mar 18, 2004, 13:52
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I posted a sortable tally of all units, showing the actual number of longs and shorts for this year's contest. UConn was the most popular long, and St. Joe's the most popular short.
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| | | 6 | StLCards
Leader
ID: 31010716
Thu, Mar 18, 2004, 13:57
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FL is down by 10 to Manhattan with about 9min to go. 1st upset?
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| | | 7 | StLCards
Leader
ID: 31010716
Thu, Mar 18, 2004, 14:42
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194 shorts on FL must have known something
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| | | 8 | Tree
Donor
ID: 599393013
Thu, Mar 18, 2004, 15:13
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wow. i have no clue what i'm doing, and i'm in the top 10 after 3 games LOL...
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| | | 9 | Gmoney
Donor
ID: 5810561615
Thu, Mar 18, 2004, 15:27
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Tree,
I have no idea either. I only picked teams. Didn't even touch the seeds or the conference. Who knows what that means. I just read Guru's post and through in a last minute team just to see how things play out.
GL,
G$
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| | | 10 | biliruben
ID: 441182916
Thu, Mar 18, 2004, 15:45
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Come on Salukis! Baby needs a new pair of shoes!
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| | | 11 | StLCards
Leader
ID: 31010716
Thu, Mar 18, 2004, 17:16
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sorry about the shoes bili
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| | | 12 | biliruben
ID: 441182916
Thu, Mar 18, 2004, 17:40
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s'alright. I don't actually have a baby, and if I did, shoes wouldn't be needed for a while.
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| | | 13 | Sludge
Leader
ID: 25919714
Thu, Mar 18, 2004, 19:36
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s'alright. I don't actually have a baby, and if I did, shoes wouldn't be needed for a while.
Yeah, that's what you think.
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| | | 14 | culdeus
ID: 5515619
Thu, Mar 18, 2004, 20:25
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I LOVE the 2 seed basket. Those guys could sweep the final four this year. Two legit national champ teams Ok State and UConn.
I wish I had a group of people who I could explain this enough to get them on it.
I wanted to short Florida, just didn't net enough IMO vs. the risk since their pod is pretty spare.
Still 8-0 in conventional yahoo bracket. The Mrs. is not particpating this year, she has had some success with this game in the past and with conventional brackets also.
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| | | 15 | culdeus
ID: 5515619
Thu, Mar 18, 2004, 20:25
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BTW gotta love TIVO for cheerleader footage. BBALL Cheerleaders are the best.
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| | | 16 | Species
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ID: 7724916
Thu, Mar 18, 2004, 23:05
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I won the 2nd ever Market Madness......haven't been in the top 5 since those damned baskets! Those suck, Guru!
It's a cool game. So unique and a great challenge.
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| | | 17 | Sludge
Leader
ID: 25919714
Thu, Mar 18, 2004, 23:49
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Species -
That's about the same way I feel about bonus points in Pickoff. Those took away a BIG edge.
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| | | 18 | Tree
ID: 522501718
Fri, Mar 19, 2004, 06:51
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while i certainly don't expect anything to stay this way, the fact i'm in the top 5 after the first day of games pleases me to no end. i'm gradually getting the hang of it, to the point where i wish this game happened more often! :o)
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| | | 19 | Deadeyes
ID: 18115269
Fri, Mar 19, 2004, 09:06
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Tree if you didnt pick any baskets you are NOT goign to win. I will be cruising to the top soon. ONce kentucky and St Joes lose.
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| | | 20 | Tree
Donor
ID: 599393013
Fri, Mar 19, 2004, 10:08
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i shorted the #1, #4, and #5 baskets, plus the SEC and ACC.
i longed the #12 basket, which has already paid off a little bit, and i'm banking on Pacific today to help me out.
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| | | 21 | Slowhand
SuperDude
ID: 56744223
Fri, Mar 19, 2004, 11:18
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RE: 16 & 17....some of us slackers need every edge we can get ;-)
RE: 19 I believe Guru has a prize for the winning team EXCLUDING baskets.
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| | | 22 | Chuck
ID: 72541920
Sat, Mar 20, 2004, 00:06
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There have been a lot of close games so far, but not a ton of upsets. I wonder, though, if this leads to top seed domination in the next few rounds, with many of the 3-8 seeds in close match-ups.
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| | | 23 | culdeus
Leader
ID: 43105818
Sat, Mar 20, 2004, 00:54
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This has to have the most chalk of any first round i can remember. And Manhattan doesn't count, everyone who looked at anything had that one.
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| | | 24 | smallwhirled
ID: 471461310
Sat, Mar 20, 2004, 05:50
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Lots of chalk, but it's all about how many you have in the Elite 8. That is the place where you look for how well you are doing......
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| | | 25 | Chuck
ID: 72541920
Sat, Mar 20, 2004, 12:09
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I know there's a lot of time to go until things really get sorted out, but my current top entry is totally relying upon the 4 seeds cleaning up.
Among others, I'm long on:
-Kansas
-Wake Forest
-Maryland
-4 Seed Basket
-ACC
However, I remember one year my team was top 10 after 2 rounds, and the other team was out of the top 100 and they managed to switch places by the finals. Until the first 2 rounds are over, I just root for upsets, and pay no attention to the entry for my rooting interests. After that, I start caring about specific teams.
I currently have the #18 basket-free entry, but have already lost 3 longs. Valpo and Louisville were slightly expected, but Michigan State I think burned me on all 3 teams. I thought they had a shot at the Elite 8.
I am guessing Gonzaga is making a lot of its "shorters" nervous now, too. Upsets can happen, but they might get a really free ride today vs. Nevada. If they're in a blow-out and can rest up some guys, that puts them in a good position. Here's hoping Nevada can pull one off today. (OK, so if a team's loss can help all 3 teams, I will root against them even in early rounds :-).
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| | | 26 | Chuck
ID: 72541920
Sat, Mar 20, 2004, 17:21
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Uhhh... under 2 minutes left in potentially the biggest upset so far in the tourney, and CBS cuts away to the Manhattan/Wake game with 14+ minutes left???
What a horrible decision. Sure that game is closer, but don't they realize that seeing upsets happen is bigger news than watching upsets develop? There is plenty of time to cut over later after the Gonzaga game is done. I want to see the #2 seed lose. I can't believe they chose to do that.
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| | | 27 | Chuck
ID: 72541920
Sat, Mar 20, 2004, 17:25
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Amazing... they don't even cut back to show the end of the game. Not even a mention by the announcers in the Wake game. Way to blow the biggest interest in the tournament, so far, CBS.
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| | | 28 | Sludge
Leader
ID: 25919714
Sat, Mar 20, 2004, 17:26
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JKP as my witness, I kinda figured that Gonzaga was gonna lose early. Of course, had they not lost early, you never would have heard from me. :)
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| | | 29 | TaRhEElKiD
ID: 150521415
Sat, Mar 20, 2004, 17:37
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Not really a mistake IMO. It was evident that Nevada was going to pull off the upset which is great for ratings, however a Manhattan upset would be another great game. EVERYONE is interested to see how Manhattan will do since they are the highest seed remaining along with Pacific who doesn't have a chance in KC as far as I am concerned.
Go TaR HeeLs tonight vs Texas!
I didn't get to play the game since I was on Spring Break when the brackets came out. Had Zaga in the Elite 8 however, but oh well. I will post my FF for fun.
Kentucky, WF, UNC, UConn
Kentucky over UConn in the finals.
Good luck all...
THK
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| | | 30 | Chuck
ID: 72541920
Sat, Mar 20, 2004, 17:46
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Not really a mistake IMO. It was evident that Nevada was going to pull off the upset which is great for ratings,
Since when is televised sports about anything other than ratings?
however a Manhattan upset would be another great game.
I agree, but there was no need to switch over at that juncture. As I type, there are still 5 minutes left in the game. To me, part of the fun of watching the games is seeing the reaction of teams like Nevada, when they realize they pulled it off.
I'm not questioning whether the game was in hand or not. If it's round 1, and a 16 seed is up by 15 with a minute left, I guarantee you they don't cut away. While this is not as big of an example as that, there is no way that Manhattan was a priority in the minds of the average person watching CBS. I put in my time watching that game and rooting Nevada on, and I didn't even get to see the end result. Meanwhile, I'm still watching Manhattan, waiting to see if Nevada actually one, as they haven't cut away to tell me yet...
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| | | 31 | RebelFan42
Sustainer
ID: 14833716
Sat, Mar 20, 2004, 17:53
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As if they're earlier play wasn't bad enough now they cut away from the wake game, to take me to a stanford game that hasn't even started yet. I said it during football season, and I will say it again, I hate my cbs affiliate
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| | | 32 | TaRhEElKiD
ID: 150521415
Sat, Mar 20, 2004, 17:54
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Yea. Agreed. Yesterday was the worst. They kept switching from the East Tennessee game yesterday with under 2 minutes. I was about to cry! They haven't done a great job of switching over thus far IMO. Although the Nevada one wasn't as bad as some others I have seen.
Chris Paul with an outstanding preformance thus far. The O/U on his Pts + Assists was 25.
Manhattan within 2 pts. Could upset my FF pick! ;-(
TT had a 9 pts lead on St. Joes only for it to be taken back by 3. Should be another good game.
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| | | 33 | TaRhEElKiD
ID: 150521415
Sat, Mar 20, 2004, 17:55
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Chuck-
Did you have Nevada winning? What are you final four picks for curiosity since you have done well at this game before. I love March Madness!!!!
THK
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| | | 34 | Chuck
ID: 72541920
Sat, Mar 20, 2004, 17:56
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Rebel-- I feel bad for you. Luckily they've stayed w/ Wake so far with me. Do they realize that regional affiliation doesn't matter when it comes to close games with under 2 minutes left?
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| | | 35 | TaRhEElKiD
ID: 150521415
Sat, Mar 20, 2004, 17:57
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WF fouls a Manhattan 3 pt shooter with under 50 ticks left!!!!
SHEESH
THK
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| | | 36 | TaRhEElKiD
ID: 150521415
Sat, Mar 20, 2004, 18:00
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2 of 3 for Holmes...
WF goes down and almost loses the ball.
13 ticks left. If WF hits a bucket it is over, if not...it will be an very exciting and nail biting finish for my FF pick.
THK
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| | | 37 | TaRhEElKiD
ID: 150521415
Sat, Mar 20, 2004, 18:02
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Manhattan with terrible D and leaves a player wide open for a dunk. Vialant effort for Manhattan but Wake moves on!
ACC 8-0! Hopefully it is 10-0 after today.
THK
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| | | 38 | Tree
ID: 522501718
Sat, Mar 20, 2004, 18:03
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Manhattan and Gonzaga losing were killers for my bracket. ouch. damn....28 of the first 32 right, and now i stink up the joint...
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| | | 39 | TaRhEElKiD
ID: 150521415
Sat, Mar 20, 2004, 18:04
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St Joes was down 12-21. The score is now 32-23 St Joes. Amazing run...
Go Hawks!
THK
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| | | 40 | Chuck
ID: 72541920
Sat, Mar 20, 2004, 18:12
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My main care in above was having Gonzaga shorted 5 times on 3 teams. As Gonzaga 3 times and as 2 seed basket twice. I actually had Nevada out in the first round (was planning on Michigan State making a run to the elite 8). Can't win everything, I guess.
My "real" bracket has:
Kansas (over Mich. St.)
Pitt (over Wake)
Duke (over UNC)
Maryland (over UConn)
With Duke over Pitt in the championship.
My Market Madness Picks don't mirror this exactly, though, as I take a few more risks in this game than I do on my bracket. My big killer is that I had all #9 seeds over #8 seeds, and all #1 seeds losing early (other than Duke). Thus, I think I'm rooting for the #1 seeds to beat the 8 seeds today, and the #1 seeds to go out next round. I think...
In case you care:
Currently #9
Currenly #61 (but may be stronger as it's more diverse)
Currently #5 in basket-free standings
Those #'s are through 34 games (pre-Wake finish). All should hold or move up as I am consistantly long on #4 seeds/Wake/ACC in various forms (long 6 times on Wake on 3 teams).
However, big things will change in the standings come next weekend. I've been on top, fallen and come back to the top. I think I'll need at least 2 #4 seeds to make the final 4 to have any shot at top overall this year.
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| | | 41 | TaRhEElKiD
ID: 150521415
Sat, Mar 20, 2004, 18:34
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I have Pitt losing tomorrow to Wisconsin in my bracket! ;-)
Would love to see Maryland in the FF (or at least beat the Cuse) because I think WF and Duke/UNC go. Go ACC!
THK
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| | | 42 | Chuck
ID: 72541920
Sat, Mar 20, 2004, 18:40
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Everybody has Pitt losing tomorrow. :-)
To me, there are a few over-hyped upsets, and the Wisc-Pitt was one I wasn't going to follow the crowd on.
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| | | 43 | TaRhEElKiD
ID: 150521415
Sat, Mar 20, 2004, 19:00
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See in our pool around here only a few have Wisconsin over Pitts. Should be a very good game. St. Joes knocking down endless 3s it seems.
THK
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| | | 44 | Chuck
ID: 72541920
Sat, Mar 20, 2004, 19:34
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Ouch... it's looking like I'm going to lose $65 if Maryland can't stage a major comeback. (Though they are now within 10...)
I have Maryland long x3 and Syracuse short x2 on my top team.
On my #2 team, Maryland is long twice, Syracuse is long once and short once. I still prefer a Maryland victory there, but it will only cost $26 there.
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| | | 45 | TaRhEElKiD
ID: 150521415
Sat, Mar 20, 2004, 19:45
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I really wish Maryland would come back because it looks like Bama may pull off a huge upset over Stanford! I want 4 ACC Final Four teams! ;-)
Come on Maryland!!
THK
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| | | 46 | Chuck
ID: 72541920
Sat, Mar 20, 2004, 19:55
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I'm glad the standings got updated before the double whammy of Standford/Maryland losses. Note to self: Next year, don't short the #8 seeds.
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| | | 47 | TaRhEElKiD
ID: 150521415
Sat, Mar 20, 2004, 20:03
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WOOOOW! Bama misses 2 to make it very close. Almost a tie from Stanford.
Then Maryland almost brings it back with 2 very good chances to tie before the buzzer sounds.
Cuse vs Bama...who picked it?
THK
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| | | 48 | kev
ID: 3155515
Sat, Mar 20, 2004, 20:35
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Im actually doing good this year...even though the last minute choices do still hurt a bit.
I shorted the ACC, but longed Wake and UNC just for experimental purposes.
Shorting the 1's and 2's paying off!
My final 4
Pitt (over KU)
GTech (over Wake)
Duke (over UNC)
UCONN (over, um, Stanford)
I think if Pitt survives a stupid game in Wisconsin, they can take that region. Actually, I like the winner of tommorows game to win the whole tourney.
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| | | 49 | Tree
ID: 522501718
Sat, Mar 20, 2004, 20:51
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my real bracket has been brutalized today...i had 28 out of 32 in the first round...
but now i've lost Gonzaga and Stanford (elite 8) and Manhattan (sweet 16)...
i've missed 4 of the 6 games so far today...
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| | | 50 | TaRhEElKiD
ID: 150521415
Sat, Mar 20, 2004, 21:27
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kev-
I think you meant GTech over KU and Pitt over WF.
THK
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| | | 51 | TaRhEElKiD
ID: 150521415
Sat, Mar 20, 2004, 22:05
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Carolina playing like f*cking sh*t. May sucks. Carolina can't play any d*mn defense. If they don't pick their sh*t up they will be sitting at home next weekend watching Duke go to the d*mn Final Four.
THK
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| | | 52 | Tree
ID: 572492021
Sat, Mar 20, 2004, 23:02
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Hook 'em Horns baby...
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| | | 53 | TaRhEElKiD
ID: 150521415
Sat, Mar 20, 2004, 23:14
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| | | 54 | Deadeyes
ID: 441532522
Sat, Mar 20, 2004, 23:28
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guess who moved up 300 spots today. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA. Guess who strategy on the picks was solid. Now i only need Kentucky and St Joe's to lose... and i will be WAY up at the top. Guess who shorted Gonzaga??? that's right I did. Props for those who shorted Stanford. I couldn't decide who to short ST Joseph's or Stanford. Now i know to short stanford every year because they suck.
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| | | 55 | TaRhEElKiD
ID: 150521415
Sat, Mar 20, 2004, 23:41
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3 years and it still burns just as bad. If Rashad stays for 1 more year...at least we will be preseason top 2.
THK
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| | | 56 | Tree
ID: 572492021
Sat, Mar 20, 2004, 23:43
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guess who moved up 300 spots today. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA.
wow. i bet you get your ass kicked a lot in the real world.
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| | | 57 | Deadeyes
ID: 441532522
Sat, Mar 20, 2004, 23:46
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Tree you such a backstabber. GTH.
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| | | 58 | Chuck
ID: 542492022
Sun, Mar 21, 2004, 00:00
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Deadeyes- care to link to your team or give a team name so we can follow along with you?
Today was an up and down day for me.
My top team went from #33 up to #5 and back down to #43.
My second team moved up to #81. I think this team is actually going to pass my first team sometime next week. It has a lot more variety and upside. My top team is banking on 4 seeds. Whoops.
My third team (basketfree) is #140. It is #14 in the basket-free standings.
UNC and Maryland really killed me today.
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| | | 59 | kev
ID: 3155515
Sun, Mar 21, 2004, 00:27
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My strategy really didnt kill me that much. Maryland and UNC help me in shorting the ACC, and UNC hurts me longing them...not bad.
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| | | 60 | TaRhEElKiD
ID: 150521415
Sun, Mar 21, 2004, 01:00
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kev-
Shorting the ACC is never a good idea. Especially this year. GT has a legit chance to the FF and I have seen them picked more than I thought. Duke is always a threat to win it all and they are clicking right now. WF is still my pick to get out of that region with Chris Paul leading the way.
THK
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| | | 61 | kev
ID: 3155515
Sun, Mar 21, 2004, 02:35
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THK...
I really did this last minute. The thing is, I longed Wake, because I believe, like you, they are the best team in that region. I shorted them, because I don't think GTech or Duke will come out of their respective divisions. I figure the shorts I make on #1 Seeds, Duke, and Maryland, along with my long of Wake will make a difference.
It's sort of like middling I guess. We will see if it pans out.
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| | | 62 | Tree
ID: 572492021
Sun, Mar 21, 2004, 08:05
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i shorted the ACC too.. hooray! :o)
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| | | 63 | TaRhEElKiD
ID: 150521415
Sun, Mar 21, 2004, 17:59
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Well I didn't expect the bad calls and an NCST loss! ;-(
GT, WF and Duke are still legit Final Four options.
THK
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| | | 64 | TaRhEElKiD
ID: 150521415
Sun, Mar 21, 2004, 19:21
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UAB was one of my upset teams but they recieved a higher seed than I expected. STILL KNOCKED OF UK! This tournament was shaping up to be very boring after the first round IMO but it got very fun very fast in the 2nd round.
Who still has a decent looking bracket?!?
NCST got a terrible call today to take away my DREAM of an All ACC Final Four.
I think UAB can beat KU and GT will take it to Nevada IMO.
WF will still beat St. Joes in a good game and Pitts vs. OSU I have no idea...should be a great defensive battle.
A rolling Duke will beat a rolling Illini IMO and Texas will end Xaviers dream run.
I really want Bama to beat Cuse, but for some reason I have a feeling Cuse will advance again even though I don't feel they have a good ball club. UConn has a cake walk to the Final Four IMO.
I would like to see GT, WF, Duke and UConn Final Four and I think it is very do-able. It should be a fun next weekend.
THK
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| | | 65 | kev
ID: 3155515
Sun, Mar 21, 2004, 19:27
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My bracket isn't too bad. I was one of the few to take Pitt over Wisconsin, and I really feel Pitt will carry Momentum and beat Okie St. Wake really should beat St Joes.
My final 4 still has a shot with Pitt, GTech, UCONN, and Duke.
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| | | 66 | Deadeyes
ID: 262272117
Sun, Mar 21, 2004, 19:28
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shorted Kentucky here. I should be close to the #1 spot soon enough.
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| | | 67 | Deadeyes
ID: 262272117
Sun, Mar 21, 2004, 19:29
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wow i picked kentucky and #1 seeded bracket on the shorts and I drop 20 spots.. What the F????
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| | | 68 | kev
ID: 3155515
Sun, Mar 21, 2004, 19:30
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Deadeyes, what do you have longed?
I shorted #1's and the SEC, and longed CONF USA
Some people probably passed you with that sort of thing.
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| | | 69 | Deadeyes
ID: 262272117
Sun, Mar 21, 2004, 19:32
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Georgia Tech [3] -10 3 11 14 4
Providence [5] -6 -12 -12 -18
Washington [8] -1 -9 -9 -10
UConn [2] -15 2 10 12 -3
#2 seed basket
( Gonz, Okla St, Miss St, UConn ) -59 8 -10 -2 -61
#3 seed basket
( Ga Tech, Pitt, Tex, NC St ) -40 12 19 31 -9
#5 seed basket
( Prov, Fla, Ill, Syr ) -24 -14 26 12 -12
#7 seed basket
( Mich St, Memph, Xav, DePaul ) -12 11 15 26 14
#8 seed basket
( Wash, Tex Tech, Seton, Ala ) -4 15 16 31 27
SEC (6 teams)
( Ky, Miss St, Fla, Vandy, Ala, So Car )
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| | | 70 | Deadeyes
ID: 262272117
Sun, Mar 21, 2004, 19:35
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I am not doing too well on the longs. I wish i just had shorts. I figured my longs would be very minimal if my shorts did well and my short gains would be minimal if my longs were good. They kind of contradict but I figured it would work out to positive numbers on both ends. GO UCONN, Oklahoma st, Georgia Tech, syracuse, xavier, texas tech, alabama, and Vandy.
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| | | 71 | kev
ID: 3155515
Sun, Mar 21, 2004, 19:37
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I dont know if I will win, but I feel pretty happy to be in the top 10. I have never been in the top 50 before this year, not once during the whole time.
A Kanas, Pitt, UCONN, Texas final 4 would do me fine.
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| | | 72 | Sludge
Leader
ID: 25919714
Sun, Mar 21, 2004, 19:37
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TTU is already toast. Scratch them off your list.
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| | | 73 | Tree
ID: 572492021
Sun, Mar 21, 2004, 19:59
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how am i doing?
this is the first time i've played, and i'm still trying to grasp things.
i've been floating around the top 10 since the onset, and i'm #7 now with the Sweet 16 filled in...
but i really don't quite know how to compare what i still have left and what other people still have left and so on.
is there any way to discern this? someone who comprehends better than me take a peak? i'm #7 - Tree. :o)
thanks!
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| | | 74 | TaRhEElKiD
ID: 150521415
Sun, Mar 21, 2004, 21:25
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Tree-
You have both WF and St. Joes shorted so no matter the outcome of the game it hurts you twice (you also have the #4 and #1 seed baskets shorted). Duke will hurt you shorting them I feel which also hurts with the ACC...GT and WF could also hurt you there...
OSU could be solid if they play like they did today but have a tough road. UAB I feel has another upset in them while Nevada is done with the payouts IMO.
GL
THK
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| | | 75 | kev
ID: 3155515
Sun, Mar 21, 2004, 23:39
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Tree, I don't have tons of experience, but looking around, an Okie St Championship looks very important to you.
Also, it seems like your best bet is a 2 seed on the other side to go far...obviously, that would be UCONN.
For me, I think my only chance at winning is a Pitt/UCONN final.
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| | | 76 | Jazz Dreamers
ID: 31813510
Mon, Mar 22, 2004, 14:41
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I don't know if anyone has mentioned this already, but this year's tournament reminds me a lot of 2000 so far. In that year, there were also only a couple of first-round upsets, but lots of second-round shockers. In the first round, there were only three upsets (2 #10's and a #11). In the second round, 2 #1's and 3 #2's were knocked off. Also, there were 3 #6's beating #3's in the second round.
That was the year Wisconsin and North Carolina made the Final Four as #8 seeds, while Florida made it as a #5. Of course, some sanity prevailed with Michigan State, a solid #1 seed, being crowned champion. Also in the elite 8 were #7 seeded Tulsa and #6 seeded Purdue.
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| | | 77 | BigCheney
ID: 52462214
Mon, Mar 22, 2004, 15:46
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If you have the time, can someone please break down where I stand? How I'm doin? This is my first year doing the March Madness, and as you can imagine it is quite overwhelming for a rook. I'm currently in 89th. Thanks ahead of time.
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| | | 78 | TaRhEElKiD
ID: 150521415
Tue, Mar 23, 2004, 00:25
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RE: 76-
I have heard the same comments on ESPN quite a few times after the 1st round.
THK
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| | | 79 | Razor
ID: 451181621
Tue, Mar 23, 2004, 19:59
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"UAB I feel has another upset in them..."
Silly Tarheel, early exits are a trademark of Roy, not Kansas. I love the fact that we lost two All-Americans and our supposedly amazing coach and got farther than UNC who got everything they wanted. Serves ya'll right.
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| | | 80 | TaRhEElKiD
ID: 150521415
Wed, Mar 24, 2004, 23:25
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LOL...
We will see how it ends up. If you would like to put a Guru bet or something (UAB +4.5 last I saw) on it just let me know before Friday's game.
THK
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| | | 81 | biscuits7
ID: 3610582217
Thu, Mar 25, 2004, 11:32
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I have Uconn, Oklahoma St., #2 seed, Big East, Big 12 and # 4 seed long and St. Joe’s short (also #1 seed and Atlantic 10 short). I figure I’m either going to catapult from WWR 135 to top 10 or plummet; although I like my chances of a 4 game sweep tonight (Uconn, Oklahoma St., Syracuse and Wake). It’s been a great tourney so far. MARKET MADNESS is better than any office pool. Guru, you’re a GENIUS!
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| | | 82 | Chuck
ID: 302372313
Thu, Mar 25, 2004, 13:08
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I haven't updated my teams standings, so, in the very least for my personal knowledge next year, here they are:
My #1 team is now in 51st place. (7:7)
My #2 team is now in 77th place. (6:8)
I am expecting a flip flop of these two teams by the end of the weekend. I haven't played everything out yet (that's no fun...), but my focus has now gone to the basket-free team (for now...)
My basket-free team is in 90th place overall, but has taken over #1 in the basket-free standings. That one is short on:
St. Joe's/OK State/Texas
and long on:
Kansas/Pitt/Wake Forest/Duke/Vanderbilt
Of course now I want my final four to be:
Kansas/Wake Forest/Duke/Vanderbilt... at least for that team. :D
(though I see no way Vandy can make it that far, a man can hope).
By this weekend, I will pick my best team and start all-out rooting for them. Even now though, with so many shorts and longs alive on each team, many of the results are neutral to me. The only place that's not true is the basket-free team. So by default, I'm rooting for those teams, and will see how everything else shakes out later.
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| | | 83 | TaRhEElKiD
ID: 150521415
Thu, Mar 25, 2004, 17:07
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Hm...I am suddenly anit-OSU. Go Pittsburgh!!!
WF W
UConn W
Cuse -1.5
Pitts +2
Hope these 4 win tonight! ;-)
THK
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| | | 84 | culdeus
ID: 5515619
Thu, Mar 25, 2004, 17:59
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I think in general I am learning that shorting baskets and longing seeds can leave you with a zero-sum game.
I think in the future I'll stick to longing seeds, they are easier to evaluate IMO.
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| | | 85 | culdeus
ID: 5515619
Thu, Mar 25, 2004, 18:00
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er, shorting conferences.
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| | | 86 | Deadeyes
ID: 262272117
Thu, Mar 25, 2004, 21:26
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Pitt's Point guard is HORRIBLE. Thinks he can do everything himself. Pitt WILL LOSE
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| | | 87 | kev
ID: 3155515
Fri, Mar 26, 2004, 00:42
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Well, there goes my chances....oh well.
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| | | 88 | Tree
Donor
ID: 599393013
Fri, Mar 26, 2004, 06:43
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i *think* i'm still doing well...although OSU upsetting St. Joe's would be HUGE for me....
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| | | 89 | Chuck
ID: 302372313
Fri, Mar 26, 2004, 10:43
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Yup, all 3 of my teams died last night. I'm sure if all the right things happen I could still snag a GuruPatron prize, but I don't have enough teams alive versus my liabilities. Ah well... now I just get to root for whomever I wish.
I *think* i'm still doing well...although OSU upsetting St. Joe's would be HUGE for me....
Granted that would be an "upset" in seeding, but head to head, I think OSU is the stronger team. I think there's a pretty good chance of that happening.
Truth be told, the biggest development in this game will be if UAB/Nevada/Alabama make it to the Final Four. Their bonuses will be huge. Anyone with multi-long exposure on them will get huge boosts. That will also sort out the basket-frees if they make it that far.
It's very tough to know who is in contention until the Final Four are set.
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| | | 90 | Chuck
ID: 302372313
Fri, Mar 26, 2004, 10:44
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Oh yeah, Xavier is another major player in all this, too. If they hit the Final Four, things will be shaken up big time.
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| | | 91 | Deadeyes
ID: 18115269
Fri, Mar 26, 2004, 10:50
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Hey look at my team it's #88 Bannedcarpets.
Do i have any chance to win? In short, what is my best case scenario?
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| | | 92 | TaRhEElKiD
ID: 150521415
Fri, Mar 26, 2004, 20:37
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Razor...I am feeling my words now. UAB can't handle KU thus far in the ball game. Xavier and Texas shaping up to be a good ball game.
THK
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| | | 93 | Razor
ID: 20222616
Mon, Mar 29, 2004, 09:13
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Ok, so KU is out, but I still wanted to respond...did you really think UAB would be able to hang with KU? KU had a week to prepare, had way too much beef inside, and most importantly, had an awesome PG who destroyed the press. Kentucky had none of these things, which is why they lost and why we won by 25.
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| | | 94 | Species
Leader
ID: 7724916
Thu, Apr 01, 2004, 14:56
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If it's OSU vs. UConn in the finals, I win. End of story.
Go Huskies and Cowboys!
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| | | 95 | Deadeyes
ID: 18115269
Thu, Apr 01, 2004, 15:02
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i am going for a GT vs UCONN with GT winning it to make top 10. I won't win i saw someone with the same picks ahead of me.
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| | | 96 | Richard
Dude
ID: 204252420
Thu, Apr 01, 2004, 18:40
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I have three teams in the final four (Georgia Tech, Ok St and Duke). Any scenario that includes UConn surviving the next game, wrecks my plans. Go Blue Devils!
Richard
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| | | 97 | Species
Leader
ID: 7724916
Thu, Apr 01, 2004, 18:57
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It's kind of funny. I have the ACC shorted, but have GA Tech and the #3 basket longed.....but I have OSU, the #2 basket AND the Big 12 longed, so I have to see OSU to win.
I have Duke shorted x 3, so if they make it I am toast.
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| | | 98 | biscuits7
ID: 3610582217
Fri, Apr 02, 2004, 18:14
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Species: I'm riding your coattails. UConn, Okla St. #2 seed, Big East, Big 12 long, #1 seed short. Storrs, CT is the Mecca of college basketball. Duke?? Isn't that a bible school?
GO HUSKIES!!
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| | | 99 | kev
ID: 3155515
Sat, Apr 03, 2004, 20:19
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shorted the ACC, longed the 3 seed, and Georgia Tech, shorted the 2 seed.
Worked out not bad....
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| | | 100 | Deadeyes
ID: 262272117
Sat, Apr 03, 2004, 21:10
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everyone in the top all did the same exact thing??? what does this tell us? that the tournament was very very very predictable this year.
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| | | 101 | FRICK
ID: 441551913
Tue, Apr 06, 2004, 11:59
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Guru, was the best possible score this year 728. So the highest possible score would have just missed the 500 dollar prize by 4 points. What is the closest anyone has come before?
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| | | 102 | StLCards
Leader
ID: 31010716
Tue, Apr 06, 2004, 12:02
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After shorting GA Tech and taking KY, Gonzaga, and Stanford long, I still managed a +1! woo hoo, that might be my best score yet!
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| | | 103 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Apr 06, 2004, 12:48
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I have the best possible score calculated as $891:
All unit returns sorted from best to worst
Longs: (cost $226, total return $518)
UConn
Big East
Ga. Tech
#2 seeds
#3 seeds
#8 seeds
Big 12
Alabama
Xavier
Okla. St.
Shorts: (shorted for $299, total return $373)
#1 seeds
Pac 10
SEC
Kentucky
Stanford
Miss. St.
Gonzaga
#5 seeds
#4 seeds
NC State
The winning score of $652 was 73% of the best possible.
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