Forum: pol
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Subject: Baseball Transactions 2006 and beyond

  Posted by: Tree - [1411442914] Fri, Mar 10, 2006, 12:23
not for discussing deals, just for posting ANY deals that are finalized, and involve draft picks.

they are to be discussed, confirmed, etc etc, the discussion thread., not here.

myself (or someone else, as needed) will post the trade here, once it is confirmed.
 
1Tree
      ID: 1411442914
      Fri, Mar 10, 2006, 17:03 		all of the below listed draft choices are for the 2006 draft:

1. Toral trades Chris Carpenter and Toral's 10th round draft choice
FOR
nerveclinic's 1st round draft choice.

2. Tree trades Josh Beckett and his 12th round pick
for
PermDude's second round draft pick.


3. PV's 2nd round pick
for
Ryan Howard and MITH's 9th round pick


4. RFS trades Pujols, Loretta, Figgins, and 3rd rounder
FOR
Rolen, Sexon, Roberts, and Tree's 1st rounder

5. Baldwin trades Sanders and 4th rounder
for
RFS' 2nd rounder and Figgins
 
2biliruben
      Leader
      ID: 589301110
      Fri, Mar 10, 2006, 17:08 		... and I have Toral's 2nd and he has my 5th.
 
3Boldwin
      ID: 49626249
      Sun, Mar 12, 2006, 07:49 		I don't thing you have my trades right, Tree. I'll have to do the homework tho. I know after the last time I tried to reconstruct the trades, that we did a horrible job of documenting them at the time in some cases. I remember my first trade with RFS was kind of a rip, didn't get as high of a pick as I wanted and then I got a first rounder the next trade which I felt was good enuff to be considered a make-up for the first one. I did my best to only make trades that only included draft upgrades because that was the only point of trading for me by that time.
 
7Tree
      ID: 50248126
      Sun, Mar 12, 2006, 10:10 		please guys, can we delete the above posts, and move this to a discussion thread? we need to keep this as clean as possible to make it easier to track.

264 to 269 are VERY confusing.

in 264 and 265, we have an offer and acceptance of Baldwin trading Sanders and a 4th rounder
for
RFS' 2nd rounder and (a mystery player who i presumably thought was Figgins)

in 266 to 269 we have RFS trading Sanchez and his number 1 pick for Figgins.

so, it appears that it was incorrect in reading all of the above initially, and it appears to be sorted out (thanks Toral, for pinpointing that second deal..
-------------------------------

so, we have the following deals to add/alter:

5. Baldwin trades Sanders and 4th rounder
for
RFS' 2nd rounder and unknown player

6. Bili trades his 5th rounder for Toral's second rounder (presumably, some players were involved here too)

7. Deepsnap gets Toral's 4th rounder for Deepsnap's last rounder (a lot of players were involved in this one i believe)

8. RFS trades Sanchez and a 1st round pick to Baldwin for Figgins.

---------------------------
i'm going to build an excel grid detailing this stuff. how many rounds is our draft scheduled for? that would help me a lot in doing this grid.
 
8Perm Dude in Austin
      ID: 14255716
      Sun, Mar 12, 2006, 11:41 		21 roster spots - 7 keepers = 14 draft positions.

(we have some DL spots, but players must start in an active/bench spot--no drafting straight to the DL)
 
9Boldwin
      ID: 49626249
      Sun, Mar 12, 2006, 13:29 		Figgins was traded for Nomar Garciapara in a third deal.
 
10biliruben
      ID: 531202411
      Mon, Mar 13, 2006, 23:45 		All hail the delicious and sacred kumquat!

I'm trading my 2006 3rd round pick for "The Real Chad Tracy(tm)" and Nerve's 6th rounder.
 
11nerveclinic
      ID: 19730619
      Mon, Mar 13, 2006, 23:57 		All hail the delicious and sacred kumquat!

confirmed nerve
 
12Boldwin
      ID: 49626249
      Tue, Mar 14, 2006, 04:16 		See other thread, as Tree has my trades wrong in the list above.
 
13Tree
      ID: 52255145
      Tue, Mar 14, 2006, 06:59 		Baldwin - which trade do i have wrong? in comparing them, it appears the draft picks part, which is what is really crucial here, is correct.

it would be a LOT easier if you were to post the trades here, so we don't have to flip back and forth.
 
14nerveclinic
      ID: 19730619
      Tue, Mar 14, 2006, 10:23
Tree I traded my first rd pick to toral for chris carpenter.

I gained rfs first round pick from baldwin for konerko.

I traded chad tracey and my sixth rd pick for billiburns 3rd rd pick.



 
15Boldwin
      ID: 49626249
      Tue, Mar 14, 2006, 10:48 		Per Tree's request:
MBJ traded me Nomar for Clemens.

RFS traded me Ibanez for Sanders and an upgrade of my fourth for his second.

Then RFS traded me his top pick for Figgins.
 
16Tree
      ID: 1411442914
      Tue, Mar 14, 2006, 12:42
RFS traded me Ibanez for Sanders and an upgrade of my fourth for his second.

Then RFS traded me his top pick for Figgins.
for all intents and purposes, that's what i said, at least in regards to getting the picks right. so, we're saying the same thing, which is good...
 
17Tree
      ID: 1411442914
      Tue, Mar 14, 2006, 13:37
Round PD DeepSnap Bili Action Fig Baldwin Mark L NC SZ PV Sox MBJ Tree MITH Toral
1 1 2 3 4 5 6 8 9 11 13 14
1a 10 12 7
2 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 26 27 28
2a 28 24 15 25
3 29 30 32 33 34 35 36 37 39 40 41 42
3a 31 38
4 43 44 45 46 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55
4a 56 47
5 57 58 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70
5a 59
6 71 72 73 74 75 76 78 79 80 81 82 83 84
6a 77
7 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98
8 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112
9 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 126
9a 125
10 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139
10a 140
11 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154
12 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 167 168
12a 166
13 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182
14 183 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196
14a 184
that's what i have so far, with the PV/Sox tie not broken...any questions?
 
18Myboyjack
      ID: 27651610
      Tue, Mar 14, 2006, 13:42 		Why does MITH have the 25th pick? Did I trade it?
 
19Tree
      ID: 1411442914
      Tue, Mar 14, 2006, 13:46 		oops sorry. forgot to correct that.

for some reason, i thought psychobilly cadillac was PV. i'll fix, and repost when other people comment...
 
20Myboyjack
      ID: 27651610
      Tue, Mar 14, 2006, 13:52 		Gotcha. I shouldn't have pick #125 either, I guess. Thanks.
 
21Perm Dude
      Dude
      ID: 030792616
      Tue, Mar 14, 2006, 13:57 		Great job tree. Very appreciated.

About the tie, I've been digging through old threads about tiebreaking schemes but haven't come up with anything yet. It was yacked about via email here and there, but I haven't yet found anything in the rules (or even proposed as a rule). We might have to have a new rule for 2007 and do a coin flip this year.
 
22biliruben
      Leader
      ID: 589301110
      Tue, Mar 14, 2006, 14:01 		Yes. Very nice job, Tree.
 
23Tree
      ID: 1411442914
      Tue, Mar 14, 2006, 14:02 		i say screw the coin flip, and let PV pick first, since that's how i set the grid up. ;o)

anyway, i'm thinking we oughta give people time to review, and then have a "speak now or forever hold your piece" type of moratorium, and when it's posted, that is how it stands.

and ultimately, i will start another thread, with less clutter, for trade announcements...
 
24Toral
      ID: 541029611
      Tue, Mar 14, 2006, 14:05 		My "28" should be removed; Bili's 28 is already in the right place.
 
25Myboyjack
      ID: 27651610
      Tue, Mar 14, 2006, 14:06 		I think we had a tie onc before, though I'm not sure how it was settled.
 
26Perm Dude
      Dude
      ID: 030792616
      Tue, Mar 14, 2006, 14:08 		We had a tie a couple of years ago, but it occurred because I had picked up a prospect in error who got me a dinger the last day or two of the season, so I was moved down a slot. Damn Choi!

The current tie looks to be legit.
 
27Mattinglyinthehall
      ID: 428299
      Wed, Mar 15, 2006, 14:38 		Trade announcement

Mith trades Morgan Ensber and his 11th round draft pick to Mark L for his 4th round pick.

I have asked Mark L to post his confirmation.
 
28nerveclinic
      ID: 19730619
      Thu, Mar 16, 2006, 02:25 		I believe Baldwin gets 175 from me. I got a first round pick from him (RFS 1st rd) and Baldwin got Konerko and my second to last rd pick.

confused?

 
29Tree
      ID: 1411442914
      Thu, Mar 16, 2006, 09:53
Round PD DeepSnap Bili Action Fig Baldwin Mark L NC SZ PV Sox MBJ Tree MITH Toral
1 1 2 3 4 5 6 8 9 11 13 14
1a 10 12 7
2 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 25 26 27
2a 28 24 15 23
3 29 30 32 33 34 35 36 37 39 40 41 42
3a 31 38
4 43 44 45 46 49 50 51 52 53 54 55
4a 56 47 48
5 57 58 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70
5a 59
6 71 72 73 74 75 76 78 79 80 81 82 83 84
6a 77
7 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98
8 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112
9 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 126
9a 125
10 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139
10a 140
11 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154
11a
12 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 168
12a 166 167
13 169 170 171 172 173 174 176 177 178 179 180 181 182
13a 175
14 183 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196
14a 184
this is the latest, and hopefully corrected version...
 
30biliruben
      ID: 531202411
      Mon, Mar 20, 2006, 11:36 		butt
 
31Perm Dude
      Dude
      ID: 030792616
      Tue, Mar 21, 2006, 13:17 		Trade announcement:

Perm Dude trades Edgar Renteria, SS to MITH for Ryan Freel, 2B.
 
32Mattinglyinthehall
      Leader
      ID: 01629107
      Tue, Mar 21, 2006, 13:19 		Confirmed.
 
33Tree
      ID: 24556214
      Wed, Jun 21, 2006, 06:51 		per MITH's announcement in this thread...

Note regarding the Soxzeitgeist/Mattinglyinthehall trade:

Soxzeitgeist will receive Mith's 4th round draft pick in the 2007 primary draft. Mith will get Sox' 7th round pick.

are there others we forgot to post here?
 
36Mattinglyinthehall
      ID: 374522815
      Wed, Jun 21, 2006, 07:08 		The two deleted posts are mine. The first deletion after reworking a post to include all trades I've made this year, the second after I realized that this thread is only for trades that included exchanges of draft picks. Sorry for any confusion.
 
37biliruben
      Leader
      ID: 589301110
      Wed, Jun 21, 2006, 09:02 		I traded my 2007 2nd rounder and Kenny Lofton to AF for Bob Wickman.

I guess I get AFs last draft pick in return. AF?
 
38Tree
      ID: 36772617
      Sat, Aug 26, 2006, 18:28 		today's trade:
Gonzalez/Ordonez/my second round pick/player to be named later
for
Clemens/Wickman/and presumably bili's last round pick (although i guess since you have two, bili, we need to figure out which one)?
 
39biliruben
      ID: 535193010
      Sat, Aug 26, 2006, 18:47 		mine.
 
40Seattle Zen
      ID: 46315247
      Thu, Jan 11, 2007, 00:36 		Brenda's got a big ol' BUTT.
 
41Tree
      ID: 31048115
      Thu, Jan 11, 2007, 06:55 		BTW, i believe the player to be named later in post 38 was Edwin Encarnacion.

we have a transactions thread, right? i wonder if i mentioned it there,

man, spring training is only 6 weeks away!!!
 
42Seattle Zen
      ID: 46315247
      Fri, Jan 12, 2007, 17:55 		Trade Announcement

Seattle Zen trades the rights to Michael Cuddyer and Jonathan Papelbon to Soxzitegeist (Schantenfreude) for his first round draft pick this year.

 
43Tree
      ID: 210551218
      Fri, Jan 12, 2007, 20:02 		whoa whoa whoa.

while i'm all for some wheelin' and dealing, i think there was a presumption that it was on hold until we had a complete league.

this really shouldn't be going on until all teams have owners.
 
44Seattle Zen
      ID: 46315247
      Fri, Jan 12, 2007, 20:54 		We are two established teams who are going to have the same owners. There is has never been a trade black-out period before and there is not one now.
 
45Toral
      ID: 52621719
      Sat, Jan 20, 2007, 04:30 		There is has never been a trade black-out period before...

(1) I contest this claim as a matter of fact. For my first 3 years in the league, no official trades could be made until the Commissioner declared the trading period open. The off-season was black for trading.

Toral
 
46Seattle Zen
      ID: 46315247
      Sat, Jan 20, 2007, 12:55 		That's simply not true. I've been here the whole time and never has the commish said, "you may now begin to trade."
 
47Seattle Zen
      ID: 46315247
      Sat, Jan 20, 2007, 13:02 		Furthermore, the past is irrelevant, there is no prohibition against trading in January.
 
48Perm Dude
      ID: 9025208
      Sat, Jan 20, 2007, 13:19 		Re #43: I tend to agree. Not because the teams involved are both established, but because we always give managers an opportunity to protest a trade. And we have two managers not yet signed up.
 
49Seattle Zen
      ID: 46315247
      Sat, Jan 20, 2007, 13:44 		Everyone will be given an opportunity to weigh in on any trade made in the offseason. This trade and any other involving keepers/prospects do not have effect until the draft.
 
50Toral
      ID: 52621719
      Sat, Jan 20, 2007, 14:03 		That's simply not true. I've been here the whole time and never has the commish said, "you may now begin to trade."

If I produce irrefutable evidence that I am correct, how much will you give me? $1000? A free ticket to visit you in Hicksville?

SZ, I was going to do a rantier post on this, but the fact is you have never paid much attention to league rules. Even when you made them youraelf.

Toral
 
51nerveclinic
      ID: 27051103
      Tue, Jan 23, 2007, 02:00
Just so this is in the transaction thread Billi traded me Howie Kendrick, for Joel Guzman last season. This was a prospect list trade.

 
52Tree
      ID: 321481913
      Mon, Feb 19, 2007, 15:47 		confirming this deal by putting it here:

Tree and PD agree to a trade:

Tree gives up Robinson Cano, Chone Figgins, and his 10th and 11th round picks

Perm Dude gives up his 1st and 5th round picks, plus a ham sandwich. No cheese involved.

Confirm when you can, Tree.
 
53Tree
      ID: 29082512
      Wed, Feb 21, 2007, 13:01 		Trade Announcement

Tree trades:
Bob Wickman

to

Action Figures for his second round pick. (if he has more than one second round pick, then Tree gets the earliest pick)

 
54Tree
      ID: 29082512
      Wed, Feb 21, 2007, 13:10 		to consolidate, below appears to be all trades involving 2007 draft picks, so far. if i missed anything, please alert here.

1. Bili traded his 2007 second rounder to AF for Bob Wickman and AF's final round pick. (post 37)

2. Tree traded Gonzalez/Ordonez/Encarnacion and his second round pick to Bili for Clemens/Wickman and his original final round pick. (post 38)

3. Seattle Zen trades Michael Cuddyer and Jonathan Papelbon to Soxzitegeist (Schantenfreude) for his first round draft pick. (post 42)

4. Tree trades Robinson Cano, Chone Figgins, and his 10th and 11th round picks to Perm Dude for his first and 5th round draft picks, plus a ham sandwich, sans cheese. (post 52)

5. Tree trades Bob Wickman to AF for AF's original second round pick. (post 53)

i'll work on a grid later on, and post it.

Bob Wickman was involved in three trades last season, all involving second round picks. and, he ended up on the team that started with him.
 
55Action Figure
      ID: 20910
      Wed, Feb 21, 2007, 13:55 		My earliest 2nd round pick for Wickman confirmed.

On a scale from 1 to 10

1 being early and 10 being later than 1.

 
57Seattle Zen
      ID: 46315247
      Sun, Feb 25, 2007, 16:02 		Trade announcement

Seattle Zen trades Michael Young and Scott Kazmir to

Wiggs for Matt Holliday
 
58wiggs
      ID: 481432414
      Sun, Feb 25, 2007, 16:06 		agreed to trade.
 
59wiggs
      ID: 481432414
      Sun, Feb 25, 2007, 16:15 		when are keepers due again?
 
60Perm Dude
      ID: 131402513
      Sun, Feb 25, 2007, 16:30 		March 9th, 5pm EST.
 
61Punk42AE
      Donor
      ID: 036635522
      Fri, Mar 02, 2007, 03:32 		Are we just posting keepers in here or need to email them to someone or what's the plan?
 
62nerveclinic
      ID: 105222
      Fri, Mar 02, 2007, 04:13

Are we just posting keepers in here or need to email them to someone or what's the plan?

There will be a keeper thread started a couple days before they are due, probably by PD.


 
63soxzeitgeist
      ID: 2922649
      Sun, Mar 04, 2007, 10:41 		RE:42

I never rubber stamped that transaction, so here's my approval:


APPROVED
 
64coldwater coyotes
      SuperDude
      ID: 229272412
      Thu, Mar 08, 2007, 14:15 		Tree...can you email me your proposed keepers and rejects.
 
65 Tree
      ID: 29082512
      Thu, Mar 08, 2007, 14:44 		what's your email? :o)
 
66coldwater coyotes
      SuperDude
      ID: 229272412
      Thu, Mar 08, 2007, 15:01 		will@newmarketcap.com
 
67Tree
      ID: 29082512
      Fri, Mar 09, 2007, 12:05 		to consolidate, below appears to be all trades involving 2007 draft picks, so far. if i missed anything, please alert here.

1. Bili traded his 2007 second rounder to AF for Bob Wickman and AF's final round pick. (post 37)

2. Tree traded Gonzalez/Ordonez/Encarnacion and his second round pick to Bili for Clemens/Wickman and his original final round pick. (post 38)

3. Seattle Zen trades Michael Cuddyer and Jonathan Papelbon to Soxzitegeist (Schantenfreude) for his first round draft pick. (post 42)

4. Tree trades Robinson Cano, Chone Figgins, and his 10th and 11th round picks to Perm Dude for his first and 5th round draft picks, plus a ham sandwich, sans cheese. (post 52)

5. Tree trades Bob Wickman to AF for AF's original second round pick. (post 53)

6. Toral trades Brian McCann and his 12th round pick to Action Figures for his later 2nd round pick.
 
68Tree
      ID: 216577
      Sat, Jul 07, 2007, 08:50 		forgot to put this deal in here, from post 233 in this thread...

Tree trades:
JJ Hardy, Mark Reynolds, Kenny Rogers, and his 5th round draft pick

to

Sox for:
Eric Byrnes, Jon Papelbon, and his 4th round draft pick...

 
69Seattle Zen
      ID: 49112418
      Tue, Jul 24, 2007, 11:50 		I give Action Figures my first round draft pick for 2008 as a part of the Damon - Pierre deal.

SZ
 
70Tree
      ID: 131531518
      Fri, Feb 15, 2008, 20:05 		two TRADE announcements:

Tree trades Carl Crawford and Brandon Phillips
to
Bili for David Wright, Nick Markakis, and the rights to Carlos Gomez.

(i do not know what the rules are regarding currently having six prospects. my presumption is that in the off season regular rosters can go over limits, so prospect rosters can as well, as long we only keep 3 or less. if i'm wrong, let me know)

Tree trades Manny Ramire, Eric Byrnes, and his last round pick
to
Perm Dude for Robinson Cano and his second round pick
 
71Seattle Zen
      ID: 529121611
      Fri, Feb 15, 2008, 20:30 		Trader Tree is back at it. Nice trades for all.

I don't remember what we have done in the past when we've traded prospects, to be honest. I think your assumption that rosters can go over limits in the offseason sounds correct.
 
72Tree
      ID: 131531518
      Fri, Feb 15, 2008, 21:48 		one of the reasons i like this league more than any other one i'm in is because it's an active trading league. i think almost anyone would be amenable to a deal.

heck, bili and i could have sat on our rosters and just re-played last year, but we started talking and both wanted to shake things up.

i've got plenty of players left...lol
 
73Boldwin
      ID: 3013265
      Fri, Feb 15, 2008, 22:55 		The one thing I hate about this league is that I ALWAYS like Tree's side of the trade.
 
74Taxman
      SuperDude
      ID: 029463114
      Sat, Feb 16, 2008, 12:52 		Trade announcement:

Pancho Villa receives: Tori Hunter

Taxman receives: CWS closer Jenks
 
75nerveclinic
      ID: 105222
      Sat, Feb 16, 2008, 14:41
i do not know what the rules are regarding currently having six prospects. my presumption is that in the off season regular rosters can go over limits, so prospect rosters can as well, as long we only keep 3 or less. if i'm wrong, let me know

Yeah I don't really think it makes a diff Tree, as long as you pick 3 when we whittle down, I can't see the advantage to holding 6 now other then seeing if one breaks a leg the next month.

I'm not sure it's ever come up before.

I knew I should have pushed you harder for Eric Byrnes...oh well.

 
76Seattle Zen
      ID: 529121611
      Sat, Feb 23, 2008, 15:29 		Trade announcement

Seattle Zen trades Jose Valverde and his 14th rounder to

Action Figures for his second round pick.
 
78Action Figure
      ID: 22148145
      Sat, Feb 23, 2008, 17:29 		Trade announcement

Seattle Zen trades Jose Valverde and his 14th rounder to

Action Figures for his second round pick.


CONFIRMED but don't you want to short me a draft pick and you have an extra one...?
 
79Mattinglyinthehall
      Leader
      ID: 01629107
      Sun, Feb 24, 2008, 17:55 		Trade Announcement:

MBJ trades Corey Hart, Adrian Gonzalez and the prospect rights to Joey Votto

to Mith for Brandon Webb.
 
80coldwater coyotes
      ID: 570432817
      Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 08:52 		How do you accumulate six prospects?
 
81Perm Dude
      ID: 56159258
      Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 10:12 		In the offseason, we're allowed to temporarily (until keeper declaration) go over roster limits, including prospect rosters.
 
82Tree
      ID: 3533298
      Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 10:44 		CC - sent you a trade offer a few days ago. did you get it?
 
83 Tree
      ID: 3533298
      Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 10:59 		Baldwin - are you on email yet?
 
84 Mattinglyinthehall
      ID: 454491514
      Mon, Feb 25, 2008, 14:56 		I've been trying to contact Coldwater Coyotes as well.
 
85Mattinglyinthehall
      ID: 454491514
      Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 08:58 		Trade announcement:

Wiggs trades his 8th round draft pick, Chris Young (AZ OF) and Pedro Martinez to Mattinglyinthehall for Mith's 5th round pick.
 
86wiggs
      ID: 6825712
      Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 09:06 		confirmed
 
87Boldwin
      ID: 3013265
      Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 09:21 		Tree

No, not yet.
 
88tree on the treo
      ID: 40842210
      Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 09:27 		well hurry it up. lol. we're in the hot stove league and looking to make trades!
 
89Boldwin
      ID: 3013265
      Thu, Feb 28, 2008, 10:06 		Uhm, since judging the winning sides of trades is the only thing in the universe we agree on, there is precious little chance you and I will come up with a trade but I agree the time has come today to pull a wire or two and fix my e-mail computer.
 
90nerveclinic
      ID: 105222
      Fri, Feb 29, 2008, 11:37

Nerve gives MITH Kevin Kouzmanoff and his 12th rd pick for MITH's 8th round pick.

 
91Mattinglyinthehall
      ID: 454491514
      Fri, Feb 29, 2008, 11:39 		Confirmed.

Specifically, that's my 8th round pick (the 1st pick of the round) and not the 8th rounder I obtained from Wiggs.
 
92Boldwin
      ID: 3013265
      Fri, Feb 29, 2008, 11:45 		MITH I have done little else but worry about keeper declaration deadlines and dead computers the last 48 hours. The Minitti deadline is 12 PM and I will meet it. I'll certainly post a provisional keeper list here today also. Not sure I'll be reading e-mails in time to trade but you know me and trading.
 
93Mattinglyinthehall
      ID: 454491514
      Fri, Feb 29, 2008, 11:58 		B
The deadline in that league is 11:59PM ET tonight, in case that isn't what you thought. You have 12 hours from the time stamp on this post.
 
94nerveclinic
      ID: 105222
      Fri, Feb 29, 2008, 12:08

I'm giving Tree my first round pick for Nick Markakis and his 10th round pick.
 
95Tree
      ID: 9153299
      Fri, Feb 29, 2008, 12:33 		confirmed.
 
96Mattinglyinthehall
      ID: 37838313
      Sat, Mar 01, 2008, 13:08 		Trade Announcement:

Seattle Zen trades Chris Young (SD SP) and his 13th round pick to Mattinglyinthehall for Mith's 7th round pick.
 
97Seattle Zen
      ID: 44122722
      Sat, Mar 01, 2008, 13:11 		Yeah, MITH drives a hard bargain.

Confirmed
 
98Mattinglyinthehall
      ID: 37838313
      Sat, Mar 01, 2008, 15:48 		Trade Announcement

Mattinglyinthehall trades Daisuke Matsuzaka and the 12th round pick Mith obtained from Nerveclinic in the Kouzmanoff deal

to Perm Dude for PD's 7th round pick
 
99Perm Dude
      ID: 5023819
      Sat, Mar 01, 2008, 15:55 		Confirmed.
 
100Tree
      ID: 3533298
      Mon, Mar 03, 2008, 16:43 		ok, this is what i'm seeing:

1. AF owns SZ's 1st and 14th rounder.
2. MITH owns Tree's 5th, PD's 7th, Wiggs' 8th, and SZ's 13th rounders.
3. NC owns MITH's 8th rounder.
4. PD owns NC's 12th (via a trade with MITH), Tree's 10th, and Tree's last rounder (not sure what pick that is)
5. SZ owns AF's second and MITH's 7th rounders.
6. Tree owns PD's first, PD's second, and MITH's 4th rounders
7. Wiggs owns MITH's 5th rounder.

there does appear to be one "orphan" pick. When SZ traded his first rounder to AF, there doesn't appear to have been a pick traded in return.
 
101Seattle Zen
      ID: 49112418
      Mon, Mar 03, 2008, 17:20 		I think I got AF's 14th rounder, he didn't get my 14th, in the Damon-Pierre deal.
 
102nerveclinic
      ID: 105222
      Mon, Mar 03, 2008, 18:18

Tree you forgot one, if you can't remember, I ain't tellin' ya.

 
103Tree
      ID: 37232319
      Mon, Mar 03, 2008, 20:51 		actually, i think it's a typo on my part. looks like i typed PD regarding his first and my 10th, when i meant NC. i don't think i have PD's first rounder...

1. AF owns SZ's 1st and 14th rounder.
2. MITH owns Tree's 5th, PD's 7th, Wiggs' 8th, and SZ's 13th rounders.
3. NC owns Tree's 10th and MITH's 8th rounder.
4. PD owns NC's 12th (via a trade with MITH), and Tree's last rounder (not sure what pick that is)
5. SZ owns AF's second and MITH's 7th rounders.
6. Tree owns NC's first, PD's second, and MITH's 4th rounders
7. Wiggs owns MITH's 5th rounder.

there does appear to be one "orphan" pick. When SZ traded his first rounder to AF, there doesn't appear to have been a pick traded in return.
 
104Tree
      ID: 3533298
      Tue, Mar 04, 2008, 10:13 		regarding the "orphan" pick. i could be mistaken, because lord knows that we have had about a zillion rule change proposals that tapered off, that we decided picks have to be even - you have to give up what you get, in terms of number of picks.

i think this was due to a trade i made actually. lol.

someone wanna help me out here, and let me know if AF's last round pick must go to SZ in regards to #1 in the previous post?
 
105Tree
      ID: 3533298
      Tue, Mar 04, 2008, 10:29 		oops. missed post 101, as well as PD's comment in the other thread.

i'll follow through and see if there are an other orphan trades, and fix them as well.
 
106nerveclinic
      ID: 105222
      Tue, Mar 04, 2008, 11:38

Thanks for your efforts Tree...looking forward to one of your patented draft charts.
 
107Tree
      ID: 3533298
      Tue, Mar 04, 2008, 12:45 		how's this look?
Round MITH PD Punk Baldwin MBJ AF NC Pancho Wiggs Tax CC Tree SZ Bili
1 1 2 3 4 5 6   8 9 10 11 7   14
            13           12    
2 15   17 18 19   21 22 23 24 25 16 20  
                        26 27 28
3 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42
4   44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 43 55 56
                        54    
5   58 59 60 61 62 63 64 57 66 67   69 70
  68               65          
6 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84
7 86   87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 85 98
                          97  
8 107 100 101 102 103 104 99 106   108 109 110 111 112
              105              
9 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126
10 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137   139 140
              138              
11 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154
12 155 156 157 158 159 160   162 163 164 165 166 167 168
    161                        
13 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180   182
  181                          
14 183 184 185 186 187 195 189 190 191 192 193   188 196
    194                        
 
108Myboyjack
      ID: 56039812
      Tue, Mar 04, 2008, 12:46 		yes, thank you, tree. it's appreciated.
 
109Tree
      ID: 3533298
      Tue, Mar 04, 2008, 13:24 		please check for errors, etc.
 
110Seattle Zen
      ID: 49112418
      Tue, Mar 04, 2008, 14:46 		I think pick 86 is PD's, not MITH's.

You pick three times before I do, that can't be right ;)
 
111Tree
      ID: 3533298
      Tue, Mar 04, 2008, 15:42 		I think pick 86 is PD's, not MITH's.

from the above trade:

Mattinglyinthehall trades Daisuke Matsuzaka and the 12th round pick Mith obtained from Nerveclinic in the Kouzmanoff deal

to Perm Dude for PD's 7th round pick
 
112Mattinglyinthehall
      ID: 37838313
      Sat, Mar 08, 2008, 11:35 		Trade Announcement
Mattinglyinthehall trades his 1st round pick (#1 overall) and the 5th round pick he obtained from Tree (#68 overall) to Punk42AE for his 1st round (#3) and 5th round (#59) picks.
 
113PuNk42AE
      Donor
      ID: 036635522
      Sat, Mar 08, 2008, 11:37 		Confirmed.
 
114Tree
      ID: 3125986
      Sat, Mar 08, 2008, 12:53 		updating the grid now, but i won't be able to delete the other one until i get back to work on Monday...
 
115Perm Dude
      ID: 402191010
      Mon, Mar 10, 2008, 14:10 		I'm setting up the trades in OTC now:

1. AF owns SZ's 1st and 14th rounder.

With Zen's confirmation (#101), this means AF has Zen's 1st and Zen has AF's 2nd and 14th, yes?
 
116Seattle Zen
      ID: 49112418
      Mon, Mar 10, 2008, 14:20 		I think what happened in the end is: AF has my first and I have his second. Our 14th rounders were swapped back to each other.
 
117Perm Dude
      ID: 402191010
      Mon, Mar 10, 2008, 14:21 		So you each now have back your 14th rounders?
 
118biliruben
      ID: 5610442715
      Mon, Mar 10, 2008, 14:23 		Shiznit.

That's going to screw up my whole strategy. I needed AF to have the penultimate pick, not Zen.

The only thing to do now is to concede.
 
119Seattle Zen
      ID: 49112418
      Mon, Mar 10, 2008, 14:25 		Yeah.
 
120Tree
      ID: 3533298
      Thu, Mar 13, 2008, 10:17 		TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT:

Tree trades:
his 11th, 12th, and 13th round picks (152, 166, 180)
to
PD for his 11th, 13th, and latter 14th round pick (142, 170, 194)
 
121Perm Dude
      ID: 6253135
      Thu, Mar 13, 2008, 10:19 		Confirmed.

BTW, tree, I'm making up some Starbucks French Roast Bold right now...mmmmm!
 
122nerveclinic
      ID: 105222
      Thu, Mar 13, 2008, 10:33

I'll pick in a second
 
123Mattinglyinthehall
      Dude
      ID: 01629107
      Thu, Jul 10, 2008, 13:57 		Trade Announcement:

Biliruben for trades his 1st round pick in 2009 and Hong-Chih Kuo to Mith for Rich Harden and his 4th round pick.
 
124biliruben
      ID: 52561217
      Thu, Jul 10, 2008, 14:02 		Gol darnit, MITH! I wanted to hear the outrage. You ruined the fun. );

Without the outrage he's only worth a 2nd rounder.