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| Posted by: nerveclinic
- Leader [05047110] Sun, Feb 22, 2009, 12:09
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| | | 1 | nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Sun, Feb 22, 2009, 12:09
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I found this one...
Biliruben for trades his 1st round pick in 2009 and Hong-Chih Kuo to Mith for Rich Harden and his 4th round pick.
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| | | 2 | nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Sun, Feb 22, 2009, 12:10
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Trade announcement
PD gets Nathan and my (Nerve) 6th rd pick for his 2nd round pick.
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| | | 3 | Seattle Zen
ID: 431262211
Sun, Feb 22, 2009, 13:43
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Nice find, Nerve.
The league must gang up on Biliruben, if need be, to prevent a three peat. First order of business, don't let a decent prospect go undrafted since he will have the first waiver priority.
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| | | 4 | Perm Dude
ID: 231262119
Sun, Feb 22, 2009, 13:54
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Confirming #2.
And #3, come to think of it.
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| | | 5 | Seattle Zen
ID: 431262211
Sun, Feb 22, 2009, 13:56
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And #3, come to think of it.
:)
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| | | 6 | nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Mon, Feb 23, 2009, 12:40
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Trade announcement
Nerve trades Felix Hernandez and his 9th round pick for CC's 4th round pick.
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| | | 7 | Pancho Villa
ID: 51546319
Mon, Feb 23, 2009, 12:48
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I'll move this over here for clarity.
Pancho Padre trades Steven Drew and his 1st and 2nd round picks
for Building 7's(formerly wiggs) 1st and 2nd round picks.
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| | | 8 | coldwater coyotes
ID: 451159910
Mon, Feb 23, 2009, 13:11
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Confirming the Felix trade in #6
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| | | 9 | Building 7
ID: 471052128
Tue, Feb 24, 2009, 16:31
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Trade announcement:
Building 7 trades Curtis Granderson, Michael Young, his last draft pick (14.5?), and a copy of the Ann Coulter book - "Slander" for
Baldwin's: 2nd round pick (2.4).
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| | | 10 | Baldwin
ID: 9123198
Tue, Feb 24, 2009, 17:44
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Confirmed #9.
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| | | 11 | Baldwin
ID: 9123198
Tue, Feb 24, 2009, 17:45
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Now see, B7 knows how to get the trigger pulled. 8>
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| | | 12 | Seattle Zen
ID: 541502410
Tue, Feb 24, 2009, 18:39
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I consider the Coulter book to be the biggest asset Baldwin pulled out of that trade, so that should give you a good idea what I think of those players. :)
Man, B7, wheelin' and dealin'!
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| | | 13 | Pancho Villa
ID: 51546319
Tue, Feb 24, 2009, 20:04
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SZ,
That's only because it was an earlier book that actually sold some copies. Her latest fell out of the Amazon.com top 100 after 5 weeks. Major bomb.
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| | | 14 | Tree
ID: 61411921
Tue, Feb 24, 2009, 20:24
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wow, big trade.
and i'm still shut out of the Hot Stove League.
bummer.
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| | | 15 | Baldwin
ID: 9123198
Wed, Feb 25, 2009, 07:48
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Never never trust a liberal meme.
Here is the alleged bomb currently listed #8 on the New York Times ® Best Sellers: Hardcover Nonfiction.
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| | | 16 | Baldwin
ID: 9123198
Wed, Feb 25, 2009, 07:52
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...pushed one slot down by the book:
A Slobbering Love Affair: The True (And Pathetic) Story of the Torrid Romance Between Barack Obama and the Mainstream Media.
Recrudescent liberalism not otherwise represented anywhere above her.
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| | | 17 | Baldwin
ID: 9123198
Wed, Feb 25, 2009, 08:04
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Oh sure, there are a few Obama souvenirs selling. Dunno if Al Franken's last book is in the fiction section. It's not ahead of Coulter tho.
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| | | 18 | Pancho Villa
ID: 51546319
Wed, Feb 25, 2009, 09:24
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Rather than respond to Baldwin in a baseball thread, I'll move the discussion here.
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| | | 19 | Tree
ID: 61411921
Wed, Feb 25, 2009, 09:29
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Baldwin - the coulter book is well out of the top 100 on Amazon, as PV correctly pointed out. #130, in fact, as this is typed.
Also, to compare the ranking of Franken's last book - which came out 3 1/2 years ago - to Coulter's, which came out last month, is, well, stupid.
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| | | 20 | nerveclinic
ID: 27132251
Wed, Feb 25, 2009, 11:11
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Zen you don't like Granderson? You don't like Felix?
Are you sure you're not playing fantasy football still?
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| | | 21 | Baldwin
ID: 9123198
Wed, Feb 25, 2009, 15:54
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Does anyone else think I should not have accepted that deal? The more I let that deal sink in the more I like it.
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| | | 22 | biliruben
ID: 461142511
Wed, Feb 25, 2009, 16:13
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I think it's a great trade, depending on how much it upgrades your infield and outfield keepers. A stinkin' 2nd rounder? I waste my 2nd rounder on Adrian Beltre pretty much every year.
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| | | 23 | nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Wed, Feb 25, 2009, 16:19
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I don't like Young but I think Granderson is worth a second round pick by himself.
That's a ninth round pick in a 14 team league, he's going much sooner then that and we know you aren't dropping anyone to speak of.
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| | | 24 | Baldwin
ID: 9123198
Wed, Feb 25, 2009, 23:02
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The question isn't whether Young is the same Young of a few years back. The question is where does he stack up against the SS that will be available to me.
Frankly Young has some not inconsiderable potential to return to form for a year or two and Granderson unquestionably has upside. I'll almost certainly be keeping Weiters next year so it's hard to see how my keepers haven't gotten healthier finally.
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| | | 25 | Seattle Zen
ID: 501202711
Fri, Feb 27, 2009, 15:38
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Trade announcement
Seattle Zen trades Chipper Jones and his 14th round pick to Action Figures for his 3rd round pick.
Baldwin - I didn't say I didn't like your trade, it was fair in my opinion, I just have never liked Granderson.
I thought of you when I read the Michael Young blurb in Baseball Prospectus this year. His "Comparables" include Dave Concepcion, a great shortstop, and Jeff Cirillo, an unspeakably bad third baseman. Where is Young starting this year? Hmm...
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| | | 26 | nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Fri, Feb 27, 2009, 16:24
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Where is Young starting this year? Hmm...
but he's ss eligible in yahoo which is all that matters ...until next year.
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| | | 27 | Action Figures
ID: 52122817
Fri, Feb 27, 2009, 19:42
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Seattle Zen trades Chipper Jones and his 14th round pick to Action Figures for his 3rd round pick.
VALIDATED
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| | | 28 | biliruben
Leader
ID: 589301110
Sat, Feb 28, 2009, 10:42
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Biliruben trades Soria to Pancho for Prospect Pedro Alvarez.
Confirm, Pancho?
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| | | 29 | Pancho Villa
ID: 51546319
Sat, Feb 28, 2009, 11:43
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#28 - confirm
Now watch Alvarez become the next A-Rod.
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| | | 30 | nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Sat, Feb 28, 2009, 12:24
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Bili which of your 5 current prospects are you dropping to make room for Pedro. (like it really matters a week before the draft but hey, let's do it by the books)
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| | | 31 | biliruben
Leader
ID: 589301110
Sat, Feb 28, 2009, 15:34
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Pie
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| | | 32 | nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Sat, Feb 28, 2009, 22:07
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Your dropping Pie?
Isn't he a "toolsy" guy? How can you drop a "toolsy" guy???
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| | | 33 | Boldwin
ID: 581202816
Sat, Feb 28, 2009, 23:47
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I once dropped Pie.
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| | | 34 | Seattle Zen
ID: 29434517
Wed, May 06, 2009, 02:36
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I just have never liked Granderson.
I obviously don't like home runs.
Just call me Nostradumbass. Both Young and Curtis have looked pretty good so far.
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| | | 35 | Boldwin
ID: 133532810
Wed, May 06, 2009, 02:51
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So the question left unresolved is when are you going to get over the shock of me picking Meche when Burnett was sitting there waiting to be plucked?
Meche 2 30 4.13 1.32
Burnett 2 25 5.40 1.33
When he gets his yearly season ending injury, I am guessing.
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| | | 36 | Seattle Zen
ID: 30454610
Wed, May 06, 2009, 11:57
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Umm, that's "tomato - tomahto" there Baldy. I'm not sure why you are so insistently patting yourself on the back.
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| | | 37 | Boldwin
ID: 133532810
Wed, May 06, 2009, 12:18
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During the draft you had a cow over that pick passing over Burnett. Then you put on your Yahoo comments, 'Boldwin chose who?'
Otherwise I wouldn't bring it up.
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| | | 38 | Tree
ID: 41371322
Mon, Jul 06, 2009, 15:45
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the deal between c1nrb and me also includes the following draft pick swaps:
Conditional Prospect draft pick swap - Tree's 1st round prospect pick for C1NRB's 2nd round prospect pick (if he keeps three prospects), or his 3rd round prospect pick (if he keeps less than three)
Conditional Regular draft pick - Tree's 2nd round pick for C1NRB's 4th round pick, if Tree finishes in the top 3.
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| | | 39 | nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Mon, Jul 06, 2009, 15:52
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C1NRB WHEELIN AND DEALIN'
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| | | 40 | C1-NRB
ID: 2911103011
Mon, Jul 06, 2009, 16:12
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Oops. Posted the details in the main thread.
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| | | 41 | Tree
ID: 41371322
Mon, Jul 06, 2009, 16:34
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went ahead and copied all the details here:
Today’s trading action: A breakdown.
I may be the one that had a breakdown. Here are the dirty details of the two trades that hit the pipeline today:
Necro Butcher’s Ear sends the following to DustStorm Troopers:
OF Adam Dunn
OF Shin-Soo Choo
C Jorge Posada
SP Johnny Cueto
First pick in Prospect Draft
Conditional Regular Draft pick:
Second Round pick if Necro Butcher’s Ear (Tree) finishes in the Top 3.
DustStorm Troopers sends the following to Necro Butcher’s Ear:
C Joe Mauer
OF Bobby Abreu
RP Brad Ziegler
Conditional Prospect pick:
If DustStorm Troopers keeps 3 prospects, a Second Round Prospect pick. If DustStorm Troopers keeps less than 3 prospects, a Third Round Prospect pick.
Conditional Regular Draft pick:
Fourth Round Draft of if Necro Butcher’s Ear finishes in Top 3.
Dubai Camel Jockeys sends the following to DustStorm Troopers:
SP Yovani Gallardo
Conditional Regular Draft pick:
If Dubai Camel Jockeys (nerveclinic) finishes in Top 3:
Third round draft pick.
DustStorm Troopers sends the following to Dubai Camel Jockeys:
1B Adrian Gonzalez
Conditional Regular Draft pick:
If Dubai Camel Jockeys (nerveclinic) finishes in Top 3:
Fifth round draft pick.
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| | | 42 | Building 7
ID: 471052128
Tue, Jul 14, 2009, 15:20
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Trade Announcement:
Building 7 trades Shawonn Figgins, Matt Lindstrom, and his 14th pick next year to Seattle Zen for Jake Peavy, Juan Pierre, and his 3rd round pick next year.
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| | | 43 | biliruben
ID: 461142511
Tue, Jul 14, 2009, 16:03
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Don't call me Chone...
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| | | 44 | nerveclinic
ID: 576231415
Tue, Jul 14, 2009, 16:23
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Nice Trade Zen.
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| | | 45 | biliruben
ID: 461142511
Tue, Jul 14, 2009, 16:28
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I think B7 got the best of it.
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| | | 46 | Building 7
ID: 475442619
Tue, Jul 14, 2009, 18:44
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A lot of unknowns in that trade. Could break many ways. Looks like Manager Zen got the better of it for this year. Hopefully I get the better of it for next year. Just what we were both trying to do.
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| | | 47 | Tree
ID: 41371322
Tue, Jul 14, 2009, 19:23
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i think the deal has a good chance to boost Zen this year, but it's a nice deal for a team building for next season.
some big trades going on around the ASB. love it!
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| | | 48 | Myboyjack
Dude
ID: 014826271
Thu, Aug 13, 2009, 18:06
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Trade: Cameron Maybin and bili's 2010 4th rounder for Kerry Wood and my 2010 8th round pick.
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| | | 49 | biliruben
ID: 461142511
Thu, Aug 13, 2009, 18:12
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Cool.
No idea why I have trouble trading with most folks in this league, but not you. I seem to offer them similar deals to what we end up trading, but I usually get rejections without counters and no explanation. Or worse, absurd, borderline-insulting counters.
Maybe we just value players similarly. Dunno.
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| | | 50 | Perm Dude
ID: 154552311
Thu, Aug 13, 2009, 18:38
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Nice trade, MBJ.
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| | | 51 | Myboyjack
Dude
ID: 014826271
Thu, Aug 13, 2009, 19:27
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bili-our trades have generally worked out pretty well.
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| | | 52 | biliruben
ID: 461142511
Thu, Aug 13, 2009, 19:33
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Agreed. I miss Kinsler and Adrian Gonzalez and who ever else I've tossed your way, but I've got 2 rings, so no complaints.
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| | | 53 | Tree
ID: 41371322
Thu, Aug 13, 2009, 23:40
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in the deal between AF and myself, Luke Scott and Brad Ziegler are basically just place holders, not that it matters.
the deal is Aardsma, Valverde, and AF's 3rd round pick
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Tree's 1st round pick.
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| | | 54 | C1-NRB
ID: 47441322
Thu, Aug 13, 2009, 23:44
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I miss Kinsler and Adrian Gonzalez and who ever else I've tossed your way...
Has Adrian Gonzalez moved that much in this league? I inherited him on my team this season.
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| | | 55 | biliruben
Leader
ID: 589301110
Thu, Aug 13, 2009, 23:52
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I traded him for some parts on my stretch run 2 yrs ago, I believe. I don't recall who MBJ got from MITH? in return.
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| | | 56 | Tree
ID: 41371322
Fri, Aug 14, 2009, 00:10
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i was looking back at some trades.
it's interesting that in the 2006 season, Bob Wickman was involved in three trades, all involving second round picks to the team that swapped him, and he ultimately ended up being traded back to the team that originally traded him away.
back to A-Gon -
one of the deals was:
MBJ trades Corey Hart, Adrian Gonzalez and the prospect rights to Joey Votto
to Mith for Brandon Webb.
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| | | 57 | biliruben
Leader
ID: 589301110
Fri, Aug 14, 2009, 00:20
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I looked it up. I got Schilling, Saito and a 3rd round pick in exchange for A Gon. Rodney and a 1st rounder in June 2007.
Saito was a stud. Schilling was mediocre.
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| | | 58 | Boldwin
ID: 49733144
Fri, Aug 14, 2009, 05:33
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OMG
Tree manages to move a marginal batter currently hitting .151 for the month but I can't get a nibble for Alphonso Soriano hitting 5 HR/.283 for the month. Not even for a measley draft upgrade I'm askin.
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| | | 59 | Tree
ID: 41371322
Fri, Aug 14, 2009, 09:47
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no, i didn't move any hitters.
i moved a first round draft pick.
the players i traded are completely meaningless - it's just that Yahoo won't let you draft players for draft picks.
as for not being able to trade Soriano - i think you've got him significantly overvalued if you want a first rounder for him.
he's 33 years old and in the midst of his worst season as a major leaguer - by far - and historically slumps at season's end.
there's also several players ON THE WAIVER WIRE who have better numbers than Soriano.
To me, it's a simple case of a player who was worth the asking price a couple season's ago, but now, not so much.
a rebuilding team won't take a player of that age for a first rounder, and just scanning the top 4 contending teams - and presuming 20 available slots over those teams (3 OF/2 UT per team) - i see *maybe* one slot of those 20 where Soriano might be an upgrade, but certainly not worth giving up a first rounder for.
i think you have him over-valued.
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| | | 60 | Boldwin
ID: 137211413
Fri, Aug 14, 2009, 14:21
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Tree
I was not aware of the draft pick involved in your trade. I'm sure he's worth more than someone's seventh keeper but we'll agree to disgree.
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| | | 61 | Tree
ID: 41371322
Fri, Aug 14, 2009, 14:27
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He's 33 years old, and hitting .244 with 19 homers, 50 ribbies, and 8 stolen bases.
he might very well be better than someone's 7th keeper. But he's not better than someone's 1st round pick next year.
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| | | 62 | Boldwin
ID: 447311413
Fri, Aug 14, 2009, 14:31
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I bet he's better than half of them.
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| | | 63 | biliruben
ID: 461142511
Fri, Aug 14, 2009, 14:37
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Trade for alphi-plays-so-poor
And you'll have one less from your store
On on top that losing that loot
you'll have no 1st rounder to boot!
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| | | 64 | Boldwin
ID: 457391413
Fri, Aug 14, 2009, 14:39
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Tree was trying to trade for Soriano 3 years ago. He still owns considerable skill despite one bad half-year.
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| | | 65 | Myboyjack
Dude
ID: 014826271
Fri, Aug 14, 2009, 16:40
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I have traded kevin Gregg and my 9th round pick to Zen for Joe Blanton, a bag of smokes and his 4th round pick.
(for my memory bank) I have bili's 3rd round pick and Zen's 4th round pick...
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| | | 66 | biliruben
ID: 461142511
Fri, Aug 14, 2009, 16:43
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MBJ - You have my 4th, I have your 8th.
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| | | 67 | biliruben
ID: 461142511
Fri, Aug 14, 2009, 16:44
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You are going to be busy in the 4th!
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| | | 68 | Myboyjack
Dude
ID: 014826271
Fri, Aug 14, 2009, 16:56
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sorry-just wishful thinking, I guess.
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| | | 69 | biliruben
ID: 461142511
Fri, Aug 14, 2009, 17:04
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Admittedly, I didn't toss in a "Bag" of smokes, so I probably owed you a 3rd.
Hopefully Maybin works out as a reasonable substitute. He's mashing in the minors, though the cheapskates want another year of eligibility before arbitration, so he may not get another chance to prove he can hit in the bigs.
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