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Subject: 2009 Baseball draft discussion thread

Posted by: Seattle Zen - [17252811] Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 00:02

I'm going to be on the road Monday and Tuesday. Hopefully the hotel I'm stay at will have internet access. I will bring my lists with me, though, truth is, I'm sure I'll get my top guys cause y'all are a bunch of baseball morons! HA

I've asked Biliruben to call me when it is my turn, however, he may be indisposed at times. So I am going to leave my wife's cell phone number here so someone could call and bring me up to speed, then I'll tell them who the next NL or AL MVP will be. Here's the number Three 60- Five 62-117Two.

I'll be back Tuesday night, afterwhich I can be reached at TwoOh6-Six32-924Oh.

biliruben
Leader
ID: 589301110
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 00:13

I'm going to be pretty busy tomorrow, but I vaguely recall giving away my first rounder unnecessarily last year, just to give you guys some small hope of competing. Of course, I don't think I had my first rounder last year either. I usually just waste in on Eric Hinske, so I'm better off without it.

My I-phone gives me a small jolt of affection whenever someone emails me, so that should be sufficient to get my attention if I don't have time to keep my finger on the pulse of the draft. My new job keeps me pretty busy.

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 00:33

There's also the que available feature on Kafenated for everyone. If it's close to your turn, you like your next few picks and you are going to be busy, you can allow the league to pick the first person available in your que. They only see the first pick.

This is a great way to keep the draft moving.

Just a general reminder to the league.

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 00:37

Hopeully Tree will draw one of his patented draft charts showing picks that have been traded so we can keep it straight?

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 00:41

By the way Kafe isn't open yet and just a friendly reminder to set the draft pics that have been traded into Kafe.

Boldwin
ID: 581202816
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 00:47

I will be away from the computer for 3 hours tomorrow morning but available for expediting purposes later.

I need someone to send me a test email to...

baldwin61354@yahoo.com

The kafenatid league and pass would be nice too.

Myboyjack
Dude
ID: 014826271
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 01:13

B-email with Kafe sign-up info sent.

I'll be away much of tomorrow-in a muddy field -please email if my turn come up and I'll do what I can.

Perm Dude
ID: 34223612
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 01:16

Will delete the other thread in a sec. But here's the list of traded picks. Check my work!

Traded picks:

First Round:

C1 get's bili's pick
Pancho gets Building 7's pick
Building 7 gets Pancho's pick

Second Round:

Nerve gets PD's pick
Pancho gets Building 7's pick
Building 7 gets Pancho's pick
Building 7 gets Baldwin's pick

Third Round:

Action Figures gets Zen's pick

Fourth Round:

Nerve get's coldwater's pick

Fifth Round: none

Sixth Round: PD gets Nerve's pick

Seventh Round: none

Eighth Round: none

Ninth Round: coldwater gets nerve's pick

Tenth Round: none

Eleventh Round: none

Twelfth Round: none

Thirteenth Round: none

Fourteenth Round:

Nerve picks Curtis Maybin off his own prospect roster with his pick

Baldwin gets Building 7's pick

Action Figures gets Zen's pick

Seattle Zen
ID: 17252811
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 01:26

Third Round

Zen gets Action Figures' pick

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 01:55

Baldwin email was sent

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 02:00

I may have screwed up with my prospects and I want to be fair. Trying to remember this from last year because it happened then also.

I announced Maybin as my last pic and kept 3 prospects besides him. Is that OK? or does he have to be one of the three and then when he moves to my team with the last pick I only have 2 players as prospects going into the final round?

If I have one too many let me know and I can drop someone.

Seattle Zen
ID: 17252811
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 02:09

My recollection of the past allowed for what you have done.

Perm Dude
ID: 34223612
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 02:13

Since Maybin is not over the limit, this appears to be fine.

If he was over the prospect limit you'd have to declare him or put him back in the pool.

Baldwin: It will get extremely difficult to put in the keepers and start the OTC draft in any kind of timely manner if you aren't signup up on OTC as soon as possible. In reality, the cutoff will have to be about noon or so my time in order to make it happen. I don't mind losing the $10 if we end up scrapping the OTC drafting but it is a big inconvenience to the other managers when you signup at the last minute, and a huge hassle to me as well.

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 03:14

We need the OTC it is an important tool for leaving ques open, especially for me being in Dubai and sleeping while you are drafting.

I would go so far as asking to postpone the draft until Baldwin gets his act together and we get it up and running because it is that valuable a tool.

Baldwin PD has been asking you for weeks to get it together. This really is unreasonable of you, please get it together Brah. (That's southern for Bro)

biliruben
Leader
ID: 589301110
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 05:14

I get C1's 4th round pick

Boldwin
ID: 581202816
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 05:20

I'm in the league draft at OTC and ready to expedite.

I will need your updated contact information sent to baldwin61354@yahoo.com in order to do that for you.

Boldwin
ID: 581202816
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 05:25

In my defense I signed up within several hours of my first receiving the kafenatid league and pass. Unless I missed it in a poliboard post. I have been checking ALL emails in my history from Fred every couple days for this info.

Tree
ID: 61411921
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 08:02

i'm not so sure about the way the Maybin pick is being handled.

i don't believe it's been done this way before, although if it has, we should correct it for next year.

i am pretty certain myself - or someone else - would have spoken up previously on it.

i'm going to research it further, but as it currently stands, this basically gives Nerve FOUR prospect keepers, with an essential "hold" on one of those four for the entire draft.

it is my recollection that prospects have been added as final KEEPERS, not final draft picks, or, as the first draft pick.

but, again, i could be wrong. still, this doesn't seem right or fair at all.

Tree
ID: 61411921
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 08:08

as a follow up:

i believe post 187 in this thread shows what we've done here before....

with a final draft pick, SZ called up Phil Hughes from his prospect keeper list - thusly giving him more room on his prospect keeper list when the prospect draft came along.

so, that looks to be it.

thusly, i do believe Nerve has to choose THREE keepers from his list of four.

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 08:14

Tree there is no way to tell from 187 if Zen had 3 other keepers, or 3 others he liked.

I am not saying you are wrong, but I don't think 187 is conclusive.

For some reason I do think this has come up before which is why I brought it up even though no one had complained about my keeper list.

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 08:38

I do think Trees explanation makes sense.

I will only keep 3 prospects,

Colby Rasmus, OF

Mike Moustakes, 3B

Cameron Maybin, OF

I will make a decision before the end of draft whether to use last pick for Maybin therefore giving me an extra prospect pick during that portion of the draft.

More then likely, unless he breaks a leg during spring training, I will.

biliruben
Leader
ID: 589301110
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 09:46

No, this is what I complained about when it was first done. It essentially gives someone an extra keeper. But I believe it was you, Tree, who argued so vociferously in the "rule's" defense. I was poo-pooed and shouted down, and lost the argument.

The only difference here is that we are doing it all at once because the prospect draft is abutting the regular draft, instead of two steps, so it's more bloody obvious how an extra keeper is being kept.

biliruben
Leader
ID: 589301110
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 09:48

How do we find the archived threads again?

Perm Dude
ID: 2625091
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 10:13

housecleaning thread

Didn't see it. I think a rule proposal sounds to be in order here.

Will set the OTC order in a sec.

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 10:14

But Billi I just posted I would drop the fourth player. I am only keeping 3 prospects.

We've always been allowed to put a prospect on our team with our last draft pic and then get an additional prospect pic. We've done that many times.

Why would anyone bring up a prospect with your last draft pic if it wasn't to free up a prospect draft slot? It wouldn't make any sense. It would be more beneficial to just wait until the season started in case of injury.

PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 10:15

Before it had been you can keep 3 and then calling up one from the list as your last draft pick, giving you and extra spot to draft in the prospect round, not being able to keep an extra prospect.

Perm Dude
ID: 2625091
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 10:27

Have sec the OTC draft order, and started entering keepers, but it'll be a bit--have to run out on errands. Sorry for the delay.

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 10:29

As you pointed out last year Bili...

From Draft discussion thread 1...

I don't get to reuse that slot in this yars draft anyway as much as I'd like to. - Boldwin

why wouldn't you, you called him up before the prospect draft started?

That has always opened a slot...as long as you did it before the first prospect draft pick.

This year I think if you did it by Thursday though you should be OK since that's when the commish said the draft would start and MITH just decided to pick early. - Nerveclinic

How did Nerve change his mind 180 degrees like this? I was ok with the idea till he got me thinkin I was good to go.

biliruben
ID: 33258140
Thu, Mar 27, 2008, 17:40

Hmm... You may have a case if you are saying you brought him up before what was supposed to be the stated start of the prospect draft. Did you do that?

It's always been the rule.

There's a whole discussion here link on whether or not Baldwin would get an extra pick because he didn't call the player up until the morning of the draft.

biliruben
Leader
ID: 589301110
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 10:35

You are right. I was thinking about the eventual keepers.

I think I may be adding more confusion than is necessary. Carry on.

Perm Dude
ID: 2625091
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 10:36

I'm going to be tied up for a couple of hours it seems. If anyone wants to appoint themselves deputy commish and can input keepers & trades into OTC, let me know and I'll send over my signup info.

Action Figure
ID: 1525398
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 10:57

Third Round:

Action Figures gets Zen's pick

Strike that reverse it.

Zen gets Action Figure's pick.

Seattle Zen
ID: 2921499
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 11:28

Why haven't we started? Punk, you don't have to wait for OTC, our draft is conducted here on the boards.

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 11:57

It's already 8PM at night here and I would like to get at least one pick in before bed.

If OTC ain't up it's harder to leave a que since I will have to expose so many picks.

So if we could get this moving it would be nice.

C1-NRB
ID: 2911103011
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 13:27

Kafenatid keepers are complete. Punk, get us started!

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 13:29

If kafenated keepers are complete can you start the draft there so I can input my que before I crash?

Nerve

Perm Dude
ID: 2625091
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 13:30

Just finished entering the keepers and trades. Will start in a sec, but lemme know, ASAP, if anything looks screwy.

pd

Action Figures
ID: 52122817
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 14:04

And They're Off!...

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 14:09

What have I been preaching all along?

The first two picks come from the former roster of the "clinic".

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 14:10

PD you are up in the other draft.

Dude you have your hands full.

Thanks for getting Kafe up and running we know you are busy.

Perm Dude
ID: 2625091
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 14:13

Yeah, I'm doublechecking some players in that draft. Some really good players have slipped through the keeper list and first few rounds over thre.

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 14:23

slipped through the keeper list and first few rounds over there.

Well it's funny looking at who is available here compared to there because of course we are a 14 team league and there is only 11. A lot less to pick through here.

Pancho Villa
ID: 51546319
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 14:44

The first two picks come from the former roster of the "clinic".

Yeah, I had McLouth targeted as my 1st pick.

I made my 1st pick, but I think PD needs to make the proper swithch between me and B7 on Kafe.

Building 7
ID: 471052128
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 14:59

baldwin needs to pick in Kafenatid. I'm ready to pick but I can't enter it.

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 15:02

PD does the 6 hour clock mean we are using a clock this year? I've been against it but would change my vote to yes at this point to make people create ques and turn them on when gone.

Perm Dude
ID: 2625091
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 15:03

Hadn't realized the clock was on. I'll turn it off.

Pancho--did I miss a trade?

Pancho Villa
ID: 51546319
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 15:03

B7 - You can make your pick here and PD can get Kafe up to speed when he gets a chance.

Perm Dude
ID: 2625091
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 15:10

I added Baldwin's OTC pick.

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 15:43

Nice pick PD I'm sure Tree is as depressed as I am.

biliruben
ID: 461142511
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 15:45

You guys are picking too well.

Anyone call Zen yet?

biliruben
ID: 461142511
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 15:50

Message left.

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 15:59

I have to say, lots of great draft picks so far IMHO.

Perm Dude
ID: 2625091
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 16:07

I was a little surprised to see Davis fall to me, frankly. The others so far are pretty good, but Liriano is an inspired pick this early. I think he'll really do well this year.

Boldwin
ID: 581202816
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 16:34

I had no idea if I needed to trade up to pick even earlier to get him or if I could afford to trade down and he'd still be there. All I knew was that I wanted him. If I had managed to pick up another 1'st rounder I'd have snagged Tulowitski as well but you can't have them all.

Liriano's story is a litle too similar to Kerry Wood for my comfort but every sign I see tells me he is far ahead of the batters he faces even without going to the slider so much. If he recovers a couple mph on his fastball, even better than the tail end of last year then.

Boldwin
ID: 581202816
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 16:37

But they are all plums so far this round. Traditionally we don't start the closer run quite that early, B7, but we are often unusually early IMO.

Boldwin
ID: 581202816
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 16:38

Nice ringer, SZ. 8]

RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 16:39

Unofficial transcript for call from Zen:

RSF "and Perm Dude picked up Chris Davis"
Zen "ah ##$%@#@!#@$$!!!!"

biliruben
ID: 461142511
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 16:43

Thanks, RSF!

Perm Dude
ID: 2625091
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 16:48

Heh.

Boldwin
ID: 581202816
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 16:59

Nice to see SZ with some passion for the poliboard league. Sometimes I question his commitment to sparkle motion.

coldwater coyotes
ID: 451159910
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 17:01

We have just finished a sequel to DD... s.darko.

biliruben
ID: 461142511
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 17:03

Sweet. Son of...?

biliruben
ID: 461142511
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 17:07

...Sam.

coldwater coyotes
ID: 451159910
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 17:09

Samantha

coldwater coyotes
ID: 451159910
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 17:12

It is so bad that I have taken my name off the credits.

biliruben
ID: 461142511
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 17:13

Bummer.

Perm Dude
ID: 2625091
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 17:15

I was just looking for your company on the listing for this movie on IMDB.

Ugh. One to miss, it sounds like.

coldwater coyotes
ID: 451159910
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 17:17

If you look under company credits you will see Newmarket as
Production company.

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 17:20

Billi thanks I forgot to post in the draft thread just did OTC.

I am headed to bed. Will make que available to league.

I have 2 picks in round 2. I am not ready for round 3 (Even though que will be on) so hopefully that is a reasonable stopping point for the first day.

Boldwin
ID: 581202816
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 17:32

Nerve

Now that we know you were not able to move Mclouth and Mauer, would you say that my three player/pick trade was still too expensive?

Boldwin
ID: 581202816
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 17:36

CC

You are gonna tell us why you took your name off the credits?

coldwater coyotes
ID: 451159910
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 17:54

Up front I didn't like the script, Richard Kelly was not supportive
and I didn't like the Director.
I didn't see the project as worthy of being associated with
Donnie Darko (or with Newmarket Films).

However as a business venture it seemed like a safe bet. The
budget was low enough that we we would not need to release it
theatrically to recoup. World wide DVD sales would have put us
in profit.
So I agreed to put up the production money subject to being
able to take Newmarket Films and my name off the final film.

Perm Dude
ID: 2625091
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 17:56

Sounds like a win-win.

Except for the viewing public, of course.

:)

Boldwin
ID: 581202816
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 19:02

Well the biggest loss was to the 'franchise'. Perhaps the story didn't lend itself well to sequels.

What a great great classic tho. You could retire satisfied after any association with a film that great.

Tree
ID: 61411921
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 19:44

it killed me to not keep Chris Davis. i am so high on that kid, i was willing to move Teixeira....ugh...

good luck with him PD - he's gonna hit some bombs.

i'm still catching up on my cheat sheet, so it'll be a bit before i pick...

Perm Dude
ID: 31245917
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 19:46

You're going to lose some Cincinnati cred, MBJ, with that pick.

SZ on the road
ID: 27220918
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 20:33

I was a little surprised to see Davis fall to me, frankly. The others so far are pretty good, but Liriano is an inspired pick this early. I think he'll really do well this year.

Yeah, as RSF quoted, I was sure hoping for him to drop just two more spots...

I also agree that Liriano sure has star potential, and that's not just the Twins fan in me talking.

Guess who is excited Javy Vazquez came to town? Did he move next door, AF? Has he come over to borrow your tools? I was hoping to draft him... with the pick you traded me, but wow, he went off the board fast.

Thanks for the call, Bili, I think I was in the mountain pass when you called, white knuckling through the snow. For anyone who calls tonight or tomorrow, please leave your call back number. For some reason, our phone is not recording the incoming call number.

And thanks to RSF, he is The Man!

Taxman
ID: 3985420
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 20:43

My last years roster had too many players in the top 100 and too few in the top twenty. There has been 4 of my non keepers drafted in the first round: Broxton, Tulowski, Atkins and I redrafted Lidge.

The worst part is that I was unable to package several of my keepers and/or droppers to acquire a stud.

life is so unfair

Tree
ID: 61411921
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 21:33

and i had three of my cast-offs taken in the first round. between me and tax, that's half the first round right there.

and like him, i couldn't put together a deal either.

Taxman
ID: 3985420
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 21:50

Difference being that Pujols, Wright and Reyes were three of my top 5 rated players. According to my rankings (takes into account reliability/last three yrs) my top three players were Halliday @ 4th, Sizemore/Ervin Santana @ 18th. Top hitters seem to be more stable than top pitchers. Guess we will see. This system got me a last place in RIBC last year about 80 points behind Coldwater.

But kudos, Tree. Like me, I'm sure you enjoyed populating our competitors rosters.

Action Figures
ID: 52122817
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 23:34

I'm on it...in about 10 minutes.

Baldwin
ID: 10258919
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 23:42

My pick this round went to B7 so he should be warming up.

SZ on the road
ID: 27220918
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 00:49

Damn, I feel like a moron. I didn't realize that Figgins qualified at second in Yahoo. That's huge. Nice pick, B7.

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 01:05

and i had three of my cast-offs taken in the first round. between me and tax, that's half the first round right there.

I think I can beat that...

I had the first 2 picks in the draft taken, Mauer and Mclouth and I did manage to trade Joe Nathan and King Felix (both likely first rounders) for draft picks.

I offered Baldwin McLouth and Mauer (Did I mention they were the first 2 picks of the draft?) as a package for his first round draft pick but he declined. Of course he did well with the Liriano pick.

Had Baldwin taken the trade I would have taken Davis with my first pick leaving PD holding a bag of dust.

I am not happy with my first round pic in that virtually everyone taken before him was on my draft sheet ahead of him. Are we all using the same cheat sheet?

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 01:11

Picking in a minute.

SZ on the road
ID: 27220918
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 01:34

So Nerve, you figured out that those "P's" stand for "pitcher". Good job!

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 01:35

A couple people in front of me are not posting their draft picks here (Just using otc) and with all the trades I couldn't make heads or tails of what's what.

I also have no idea who a team that choose to call himself BJClinton0 is. Cute in a grade school kind of way (and very last millenium) but makes it difficult to know who is who.

So please go back and add your draft picks to the draft thread.

I made the same mistake first round and Bili caught it for me.

Nerve

SZ on the road
ID: 27220918
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 02:09

I have left a two person Q for my next pick. I have C1NRB's third round pick. Please don't use the Q for that, I'll make a selection in the morning.

SZ on the road
ID: 27220918
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 02:19

I offered Baldwin McLouth and Mauer (Did I mention they were the first 2 picks of the draft?) as a package for his first round draft pick but he declined. Of course he did well with the Liriano pick.

Even if he had not made the Granderson/Young trade, your trade isn't a good fit for Baldy as he has Wieters. However, with Mauer going for an MRI on his back, coming off kidney surgery this winter, maybe C1NRB ought to draft a back up as well. As a Twin fan, I hope he won't be needed.

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 02:19

So Nerve, you figured out that those "P's" stand for "pitcher". Good job!

Not sure what this is referencing. Are you impressed I drafted a pitcher before the 15th round?

SZ on the road
ID: 27220918
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 02:23

I thought you may have forgotten that we have pitching catagories, as well.

Just to give y'all an idea how completely wrapped up in this draft I am, I am sitting in an ugly "business suite" of a Red Lion hotel with country music blaring out of the bar, drowning out the Carpenters muzak from the lobby, at 11:30pm, hoping CC isn't asleep.

I've got to go to bed.

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 04:43

I've made my que available. Please only take my first pick, I will be back by about 10 AM EST to make a second pick if by some miracle the pick comes up.

Tree
ID: 61411921
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 07:42

is there a mod who can fix, in the draft thread:

1. Figgins first name. :o)
2. NC's draft pick number. :o)

Tree
ID: 61411921
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 09:55

so WTF is going on...

can we get some order on the last 3 picks? :o)

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 10:05

My draft number is correct.

The problem is the 2 picks before me only picked on OTC.

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 10:05

Zen said he had a pick ready on OTC can someone who is his designated picker check?

biliruben
Leader
ID: 589301110
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 10:19

I'm not. My guess is no one is.

Perm Dude
ID: 31245917
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 10:20

Yeah--I'll take him.

Tree
ID: 61411921
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 10:40

My draft number is correct.

no, it's not. it's only the second round of the draft, not the 9th...

Perm Dude
ID: 31245917
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 10:42

It is the ninth round on OTC, because the first 7 rounds were keepers.

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 10:45

Hey Zen, I took 2 pitchers in a row, and I was chewing gum at the same time.

100

SZ on the road
ID: 27220918
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 11:12

Re 86 - I have Action Figures' pick, not C1's.

I have made everyone a designated picker on Kafe. I've created a one-man Q, sure hope he is around. If not, please give me a call so I can cry.

On Kafe, it says that Baldwin had B7's second round pick and it was he was drafted Figgins. Is that correct? I didn't think Baldy had that pick.

101

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 11:20

zen you can make a bigger que but only allow the league to see the first name at the top when your turn comes.

Or do you know that already?

102

SZ on the road
ID: 27220918
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 11:22

Yeah, I know that. I just haven't thought that far ahead.

103

Pancho Villa
ID: 51546319
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 11:41

I left a large que with a bunch of DPs.
If it's empty when it gets to me, I'll be amazed....and pissed!

104

Taxman
ID: 3985420
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 11:48

Sorry for hold up. I just looked at last draft pick in draft pick thread @ 45 minutes ago which was Nerve @ 2.09. I didn't see I was up @ 2.12 until I rechecked OTC. I'll try to keep up with this thread as well as OTC and the Draft Pick thread ;o)

105

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 11:53

Yeah, I know that. I just haven't thought that far ahead.

I currently have 18 picks in my que, but then that is the luxury of not sitting in the internet room at the Red Lion Inn listening to country western music.

I am sitting in my own living room listening to the call to prayer 5 times a day.

106

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 11:55

It seems like as a league we are voting to put the most importance on OTC this year so I am watching that before the draft thread at this point.

In fact if there was a draft pick entered on the thread that wasn't put into OTC I wouldn't know it was my turn.

107

biliruben
ID: 461142511
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 12:09

I'm the opposite. It's a pain for me to check otc from work, because I have to log in every time.

108

biliruben
ID: 461142511
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 12:16

I'll be back in 10...

109

Baldwin
ID: 10258919
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 12:35

SZ

In Kafenatid, red means someone else used that pick and got that player.

110

biliruben
ID: 461142511
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 13:03

Somebody drop me an email when tree picks.

111

C1-NRB
ID: 2911103011
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 13:32

Somebody drop me an email when tree picks.

Dogpile!

112

Baldwin
ID: 10258919
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 14:52

What a value pick that was.

113

Baldwin
ID: 10258919
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 14:55

I am not in expedite mode. I hope someone else is e-mailing C1. If I could lever my wife away from her e-mail I might be able to find a contact list worth of addys in that manager recruitment e-mail discussion but I am blind atm.

114

C1-NRB
ID: 2911103011
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 15:38

I was at lunch when it happened; so even though I called for the dogpile, I was unable to participate if it occurred.

115

C1-NRB
ID: 2911103011
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 17:03

I'm headed out of town for the rest of the day in 30-45 minutes. I set PuNk as a designee since he goes right before me.

Two-man queue available, so I'm covered.

116

Baldwin
ID: 10258919
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 17:14

I have a queue set up and B7 and a few others have access to it.

117

Perm Dude
ID: 31245917
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 17:22

So does Obama. Just in case you make a bad choice, he can correct it before the whole draft goes to hell.

118

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 17:29

C1

maybe set a couple more people to pick for you just in case Punk doesn't notice.

You can set it up so only the first pick is shown.

Is it time to ask what we can do to speed things up?

Is it too much to ask that if someone is going to be away for a few hours they leave a que so we can get this moving?

119

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 17:49

is there a mod who can fix, in the draft thread:

1. Figgins first name. :o)

Oh he one of those guys who spells his name Shaun instead of Shawn?

8-}

120

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 17:52

Headed to bed, 17 player que left.

Hopefully just one pick before I wake up 6 hours from now.

Nerve

121

Building 7
ID: 70243116
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 18:41

I didn't think that Figgins looked right. I knew it wasn't Sean Figgins. He's the only Figgins in the league, so I don't see the need to correct it. He's usually on one of my teams every season, too.

122

Taxman
ID: 3985420
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 19:44

Nerve's question is timely

Is it time to ask what we can do to speed things up?

Is it too much to ask that if someone is going to be away for a few hours they leave a que so we can get this moving?

For that matter, could you just tell us if you are going to be away a few hours so we don't sit at the computer waiting to see if our next pick has been stolen out from under us??

123

Baldwin
ID: 10258919
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 19:59

If everyone e-mails me their contact info including phone numbers we can prevent this.

124

Seattle Zen
ID: 422151018
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 20:18

Back at home. Where the hell is Punk?

125

Pancho Villa
ID: 51546319
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 20:27

We can also prevent this by taking advantage of the Kafenatid Que system, which is excellent.

I don't understand why we don't utilize a clock. Six hours is not an unreasonable amount of time to expect someone to pick.

126

Seattle Zen
ID: 422151018
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 20:39

Sent my contact info to Baldwin. Again, disregard the 360 number and use the 206 number for here on out.

SZ

127

Pancho Villa
ID: 51546319
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 20:42

Geez, Punk, that's twice in 3 rounds you've taken the guy at the top of my que.

128

PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 20:50

I do what I can. :')

129

Seattle Zen
ID: 422151018
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 20:53

YES!

130

Seattle Zen
ID: 422151018
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 20:54

There is no one healthier, sturdier, more resilient than Mr. Harden. It's true, Easter Bunny!

131

Seattle Zen
ID: 422151018
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 20:59

And, it's true, I did say to MITH just last year as he was shopping Mr. Harden:

"I will NEVER have Rich Harden on my team".

Well, on the road to Damascus, I saw this light.. it was Rich Harden's ERA and WHIP. All I could say was, "wow, dude".

132

Nerveclinic
ID: 480171611
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 22:34

Are we supposed to pick for Baldwin. I didn't see a note.

133

Pancho Villa
ID: 51546319
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 22:42

B says he has a que set up(#116). If you're a DP, pick away.

134

Perm Dude
ID: 272131017
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 22:48

Picked for him.

You guys sound like a bunch of wives. We've got lots of time.

135

Nerveclinic
ID: 480171611
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 22:51

My que is off I will be awake in 1.5 hour max.

136

Taxman
ID: 3985420
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 22:52

I give. I'm down and out 'till @9 CST Wednesday.
12 hours of watching paint dry and 1 pick is about all I can devote my life to for this day.

137

biliruben
Leader
ID: 589301110
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 23:13

Used my first round pick for Harden in the stretch run last year. Admittedly, he pitched very well for me, but I am just not sure I needed him. Better safe than sorry. When you are in a dogfight, bring a gun, as I learned on my first 2nd-place finish in this league (by 1/2 a pt).

138

Baldwin
ID: 10258919
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 23:24

Are we supposed to pick for Baldwin. I didn't see a note.

Dude, you were a designated picker. Isn't it working?

139

Nerveclinic
ID: 480171611
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 00:03

Is Pd about to pick?

140

Perm Dude
ID: 272131017
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 00:06

Yeah--looking over two guys right now. Just gimme 5 mins.

141

Nerveclinic
ID: 480171611
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 00:15

Ok I have CC,s pick then Zen then me again so we should keep
moving.

Stand by Zen.

142

Tree
ID: 61411921
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 00:18

i'm going to bed soon. going to leave a small queue.

it is for this round only....

thanks!

144

Perm Dude
ID: 272131017
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 00:26

His queue is empty in OTC. Go ahead and post it in the draft thread, and I'll pick him up in OTC for CC.

145

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 00:26

Ignore what I said about CC. I have his pick next round.

Nerve

So are we done for the night or is CC around?

146

C1-NRB
ID: 31050820
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 01:30

Thanks for the pick-up, whoever did it (Punk or Tree.)

Geez, Punk, that's twice in 3 rounds you've taken the guy at the top of my que.

For what it's worth, PV, Heath Bell was the second player in my two-man queue.

147

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 01:45

Zen if you leave a one person que and assign me as picker I can grab it for you. It's daytime here.

Nerve

148

Seattle Zen
ID: 422151018
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 02:00

I've let everyone see my Q. It is a one person Q and if CC picks before I wake up tomorrow, please go ahead and post my pick, Nerve.

How's the weather? Traffic still eased up? What do you think Dubai will be like this summer?

149

Nerveclinic
ID: 480171611
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 05:35

Weather is just warming up. Traffic is lighter then the past. Lots
more leaving town once school is through. This place is toast.

Nervous in Dubai

150

biliruben
Leader
ID: 589301110
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 06:00

Any new plans?

Is your girlfriend staying long-term?

151

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 08:44

No new plans, just rolling with the punches.

Work is still keeping busy enough, just don't know how long it will last.

Girlfriend is day to day.

152

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 08:44

My que is open to the league for my next pick.

Nerve

153

Taxman
ID: 3985420
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 08:50

BILI...I'm confused. Shouldn't the most recent post you picked for Pauncho be 3.07

154

Pancho Villa
ID: 16237115
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 09:34

Pauncho?

I'm just big boned, but not in a porno way.

155

Taxman
ID: 3985420
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 11:07

Those that can proof read do.

Those that can't can't

156

Baldwin
ID: 10258919
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 11:24

Phone contact info for expediting received to date only for:

SZ
_____________________________________________

That is the extent of my contact list. You are already getting kafenatid e-mail notifications so no point in collecting that.

157

Pancho Villa
ID: 16237115
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 11:24

Can't believe Volquez fell so far.
Can't believe Baldwin didn't keep him. If I hadn't been so flush in SP, he'd have been my 1st pick.

MBJ must be giddy.

I'm away most all day. Que is set.

158

biliruben
Leader
ID: 589301110
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 11:25

Frackin' frackity frack. There goes my top 3 off my list.

159

Pancho Villa
ID: 16237115
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 11:31

Just in case we really haul ass, my que is for round 11 only.

160

Myboyjack
Dude
ID: 014826271
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 11:32

I think there are still questions about Volquez and the workload Dusty put on him last year-but at this point in the draft he has value. His chnge-up is special

161

Biliruben
ID: 52052916
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 11:38

Yeah, the he needs to cut down on bb.

162

Baldwin
ID: 10258919
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 11:46

I did not enjoy releasing him. I can tell you that. The tail end of last season wasn't so special but I put that down to his age.

163

biliruben
ID: 461142511
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 12:09

here.

164

biliruben
ID: 461142511
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 12:20

I repeat:

I HAVE C1's 4th ROUND PICK!!!!

That's two picks away. Could you fix that up for me PD?

Thanks!!!

165

Perm Dude
ID: 31255118
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 12:26

Done

166

Baldwin
ID: 10258919
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 12:27

Alright, who hacked my kafenatid queue and stole all my players?

167

biliruben
ID: 461142511
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 12:27

Thanks, man.

168

biliruben
ID: 461142511
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 12:28

I had the same feeling, Baldwin. Except I didn't leave a q. At 3 am I had 4 solid pitchers in mind, and 6 picks until I was up.

I was forced to take a SS.

Pitching is for losers anyway. Who needs 'em.

169

biliruben
ID: 461142511
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 12:30

Fortunately, however, since Punk is up, I'll have all night to research pitching before my next pick.

I'll check back at 3am.

170

biliruben
ID: 461142511
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 12:31

Strike that!

Yay, PUNK!!

171

Perm Dude
ID: 31255118
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 12:36

It's strange for me to be waiting so long in each round...typically I get my pick out of the way in the first few selections!

172

C1-NRB
ID: 2911103011
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 12:40

biliruben 168:
I was forced to take a SS.
Between you and Punk leaving none for me.

biliruben 169:
I'll have all night to research pitching before my next pick.
Yes. Yes I will. Pitching and now Shortstops.

173

biliruben
ID: 461142511
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 13:24

re: Tax 153

BILI...I'm confused. Shouldn't the most recent post you picked for Pauncho be 3.07

No - PD's Wang is 3.07 (not inches, feet. And yes, in a porno sort of way).

He just left Pauncho's chad hanging before inserting his wang.

174

Building 7
ID: 471052128
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 13:47

PD's Wang is 3.07

I'd have just left it that.

175

biliruben
ID: 461142511
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 13:49

Right. TMI.

I just can't count on you folks to jump on the openings if I play the straight man anymore!

Plus, it's always good to make Baldwin uncomfortable.

176

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 14:23

Zen's que is open but I don't see a note to pick. Do I pick?

177

Seattle Zen
ID: 7271110
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 14:23

Hey, B7, I know you are new, but we did give you the rules. It may be too late now, but you should realize that "holds" are not a category.

You see, Brian Wilson had 41 SAVES, and that, my friend, is a category!

178

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 14:25

Picking momentarily

179

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 14:26

Wait what am I talking about... I'm not picking momentarily, that guy is all washed up.

180

Building 7
ID: 471052128
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 14:40

I don't know anyone on my roster that is currently in line to get a bunch of holds. Plus I thought we were going by the stats they accumulate this year, and not last year. It may not appear so, but I have actually played this fantasy baseball game before.

181

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 14:45

B7 don't pay any attention to the man behind the curtain known as Zen. He likes to smoke out and then jump in here and ridicule people for no apparent reason...you'll get used to it.

182

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 15:10

Zen

observe since your snarky "no pitcher" comment

Pitcher Greinke
Pitcher Jenks
Pitcher Gallardo

Head Fake OF Milledge

Pitcher Garza

Any more comments?

and be assured this was all part of the master plan.

183

Seattle Zen
ID: 7271110
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 15:13

More like, "blow to the head" Milledge.

Hey, I like the Gallardo and Garza picks. You won't finish last.

184

Taxman
ID: 3985420
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 15:25

I'm here. Will pick after updating cheat sheets.

185

biliruben
ID: 461142511
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 15:26

I have already taken one pitcher, and I already regret it.

I have to go now to give all my money away to escrow so I can watch it evaporate into an abode.

I have left a one person q. I'm nearly certain that no one will be interested in him/her.

186

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 16:03

More like, "blow to the head" Milledge.

Blow? Head?

Do you have a man crush on Milledge you want to tell us about?

187

Tree
ID: 61411921
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 16:43

You see, Brian Wilson had 41 SAVES, and that, my friend, is a category!

he also had a 4.62 ERA and a 1.44 WHIP, and that, my friend, is TWO categories...

188

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 16:56

he also had a 4.62 ERA and a 1.44 WHIP, and that, my friend, is TWO categories...

Yeah but at least he doesn't have any holds...

189

Seattle Zen
ID: 7271110
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 17:07

Just as sure as the sun rises in the East and sets in the West, Biliruben settles for Adrian Beltre at third. Hey, it's a contract year.

Nerve, simply because your sex life involves blunt trauma and violence does not mean that you have to drag us into it. Leave that between you and your victims. ;)

And when you finally get caught, give me a ring, you'll need me!

190

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 17:13

15 player que set and I only have 1 pick in the next 2 rounds.

Headed to bed.

191

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 17:15

For Zen via queue:

2.08 Francisco Cordero, RP, Cin

Cordero has allowed eight runs and 11 hits in three one-inning appearances this spring. It seems like the right time to start getting concerned.

and your snickering about holds Brah?

192

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 17:16

Nerve, simply because your sex life involves blunt trauma and violence

I I told you as my lawyer you are never to discuss that here...

193

biliruben
ID: 461142511
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 18:17

Just as sure as the sun rises in the East and sets in the West, Biliruben settles for Adrian Beltre at third. Hey, it's a contract year.

Well... Ryan Braun wasn't too shabby at the position last year. Offensively, that is.

194

Seattle Zen
ID: 7271110
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 18:45

We're making good time today. I hope we can get to CC before he goes to bed.

You are up, B7.

195

Seattle Zen
ID: 7271110
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 19:54

Come on, Perm. Do you need a heads-up phone call?

196

Perm Dude
ID: 302101113
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 19:57

No, just still stunned that Mike Aviles went off the board already.

197

Pancho Villa
ID: 16237115
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 20:00

still stunned that Mike Aviles went off the board already.

Teamed with Ian Stewart that's a solid middle infield?

198

Perm Dude
ID: 302101113
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 20:08

No, I'm not making fun of the pick--Aviles is a solid pick and flying under the radar of most managers. There really aren't a lot of SS who will hit over .310 or so, who don't suck in other areas.

199

Myboyjack
Dude
ID: 014826271
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 20:28

Geez did my Q get devastated - Young and Burnett were steals compared with what's left

200

Tree
ID: 61411921
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 22:03

wow. my queue got destroyed too.

i'll re-tool, and pick shortly.

201

C1-NRB
ID: 31050820
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 22:42

wow. my queue got destroyed too.

i'll re-tool, and pick shortly.

It's not re-tooling if you look at someone else's queue; dang it.

Now I've got to "re-tool."

202

PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 22:56

Umm which one was the pick?

203

Taxman
ID: 3985420
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 22:58

I goofed. Looked at OTC and picked the player in the window for Bili...different player than he posted in draft thread.

PD or someone needs to fix the OTC selection, as I understand it, the draft thread rules and OTC is just for housekeeping purposes.

204

Pancho Villa
ID: 16237115
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 23:07

PD or someone needs to fix the OTC selection, as I understand it, the draft thread rules and OTC is just for housekeeping purposes

Under normal circumstances we should fix it.

However, since it's the two time defending champ, we should all do devious and underhanded things to sabotage him.

Good job, Tax.

206

Taxman
ID: 3985420
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 23:17

:o)
I'm done for the night anything else needs fixin, leave me a note

207

C1-NRB
ID: 31050820
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 23:18

Umm which one was the pick?
Wainwright

209

PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 23:31

No C1 I was referring to the 6.14 pick, not the Wainwright one

210

Action Figures
ID: 52122817
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 23:32

HELP!

I just drafted a player on KAFENATID because he was there.

Joel Hanrahan, RP, WAS

I don't know if he is available. Did I screw something up?...standing by.

211

Action Figures
ID: 52122817
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 23:33

Is Hanrahan a legal pick for me?

212

Perm Dude
ID: 302101113
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 23:33

No, you'll have to re-pick. I corrected it on OTC at about the same moment you picked.

213

Action Figures
ID: 52122817
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 23:35

It's not my pick anymore.

214

Perm Dude
ID: 302101113
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 23:35

Click on your team name, then on the player's name. You should be able to make another selection from the pull-down menu that comes up.

215

Action Figures
ID: 52122817
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 23:35

BALDWIN DON'T PICK

216

Tree
ID: 61411921
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 23:36

how was Hanrahan allowed to be picked twice? i thought kafenatid didn't allow that...

217

Action Figures
ID: 52122817
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 23:37

I need to remove Hanrahan.

218

Action Figures
ID: 52122817
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 23:38

<---The monkey in the wrench

219

Action Figures
ID: 52122817
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 23:42

I'll pick on the Draft thread and we can correct KAFENATID later.

Right?

220

Perm Dude
ID: 302101113
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 23:42

Just go ahead and post your pick in the draft thread and I'll stop the draft in the meantime and do the cleanup.

pd

221

Tree
ID: 61411921
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 23:43

i'm just trying to figure out how it happened?

222

Action Figures
ID: 52122817
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 23:45

i'm just trying to figure out how it happened?

You and me both.

223

Perm Dude
ID: 302101113
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 23:48

Clearly, one is the evil twin and one the good twin.

224

Action Figures
ID: 52122817
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 23:49

Off to bed...

225

Myboyjack
Dude
ID: 014826271
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 23:53

OTC-LOL

226

Perm Dude
ID: 302101113
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 23:54

No no no--not off to bed! Make your pick. It isn't Hanrahan since he was selected already.

227

Myboyjack
Dude
ID: 014826271
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 23:56

I thought he was going to post the correct pick in the draft thread....

228

Action Figures
ID: 52122817
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 23:57

j/k

229

Perm Dude
ID: 302101113
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 23:57

I thought so too.

230

Tree
ID: 61411921
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 23:57

lol. you're kidding me, right? he went to bed without picking?

PD - is Hanrahan in the database twice or something?

231

Perm Dude
ID: 302101113
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 23:58

OK, we're back in bidness.

232

Biliruben
ID: 52052916
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 01:00

sorry about the trouble. Out drinkn and couldn't access the
espresso stand to override and take hany which my boy claimed
to far superior to X.

233

Seattle Zen
ID: 7271110
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 01:15

I've left a queue, feel free to use it.

234

PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 02:23

No it wasn't a Database issue. Bili picked Han on here, but someone used OTC and picked someone else on his queue. When AF made the pick of Han on OTC he hadn't been choses yet, i'm assuming it was typed in when PD was making the change so the system didn't look and see if he was taken since he wasn't when AF put the name in.

235

Tree
ID: 61411921
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 09:20

thanks Punk.

which begs the question - why exactly are we using BOTH the board and kafenatid still?

if i recollect, the original argument was to keep the drafts archived on the boards.

now however, those archives are more and more difficult to access, while the archived drafts on kafenatid are literally a click away.

using both just seems like a time-waster, and obviously, lends for confusion.

236

biliruben
Leader
ID: 589301110
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 09:38

If we just using Kafinatid, I would have gotten a player I didn't want last night. If we weren't using it at all, there wouldn't have been any confusion at all. Kafinatid is was makes things confusing (as well as filling my email with useful messages and annoying me while getting my drink on).

I have rarely found it useful, and usually found it annoying and confusing.

237

Seattle Zen
ID: 51229127
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 09:43

which begs the question - why exactly are we using BOTH the board and kafenatid still?

I mean, it's nice that K has a good Q system, but the Boards do no wrong, just as Biliruben just pointed out.

I must commend the Commish for his Soloman-like decision to use both, it was his finest hour when he made that call.

238

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 09:47

Love OTC. Can't imagine going back to not using it, as long as we have this wise Commish at the helm to straighten out the occasional sewage.

239

biliruben
Leader
ID: 589301110
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 09:49

I agree. PD has been at the top of his game. You are doing a great job, Commish!!!

240

Tree
ID: 61411921
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 10:13

you'd don't need a DRAFT thread in both. Kaf for the draft, the boards for the discussion.

i've used Kaf for about 30 drafts now, and sometimes, the active queue/oh, somebody picked for me issue pops up, and it is discussed on the rotoguru board for that league, and fixed.

never a problem.

there's just no need for a DRAFT thread on both.

and if you don't want emails from Kaf, use a fake email address. :o)

241

Perm Dude
ID: 4213128
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 10:15

Thanks. OTC has a lot of very good things, despite the yearly blip or two: great queing, a (relatively) full list of players in one handy pull-down menu, the abilty to make changes such as trades on the fly, in-draft roster peeks, automatic next-pick emails, etc.

242

Tree
ID: 61411921
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 10:56

SZ - you drafted Kelly Johnson as an OF.

he doesn't play OF...well, at least he's not eligible on Yahoo to play OF.

243

Perm Dude
ID: 25219128
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 11:08

Will pick in a few. I need an OF who isn't Kelly Johnson.

244

biliruben
ID: 461142511
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 11:17

That was my bad. Stupid Kapitadid is a bit clunky on the iphone, and selecting from drop downs is hard, even when not jostling on a bus.

245

Baldwin
ID: 10258919
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 11:37

I really like Punk's draft so far.

246

Baldwin
ID: 10258919
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 11:39

And Kafenatid is not a problem. Just input your pick there first. I like Kafenatid better every time I use it.

247

Seattle Zen
ID: 51229127
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 13:25

What happened to Taxman? All this love for Kafinated, yet most people don't bother to leave a Q...

We were cooking yesterday, things have come to a grinding halt today. The weekend is usually terrible. Let's get moving!

248

PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 14:34

Yeah cause the season is right around the corner...

249

Seattle Zen
ID: 51229127
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 14:42

Yeah cause the season is right around the corner...

You must not have heard, we are counting WBC stats this year, so we have already started! :) That's why I'm taking Karim Garcia next - if Perm Dude doesn't ;)

I, like most of you, I'm sure, don't like waiting by the computer. The sooner this is done, the better.

250

Taxman
ID: 3985420
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 14:47

My bad...before I left to spend 30 minutes at office, draft has been @ 2 hrs at 5 picks before me. Stupid me. Office was upside down with people out resulting in me having to ferry van to mechanic. 30 minutes became 3 hours. I'll try to reduce my visits to office for the remainder of draft. Work and money continue to interfere with my fantasy games.

Guess Pancho, PD and I are the only three that understands how the screw up on Hanrahan occurred. Glad to see more people into the benefits of OTC and yes PD has been (continues) to be SUPERB

251

Seattle Zen
ID: 51229127
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 14:52

I'll try to reduce my visits to office for the remainder of draft.

That's the kind of thinking that I want to hear! Obviously, Taxman has his thinking cap on, money and employment pale in comparison to Jason Bartlett.

252

PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 14:57

I've got a 3 person Queue setup, gotta work 4-12, please only take one of the same position. I really doubt we'll get to me twice though.

253

biliruben
ID: 461142511
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 15:01

Feel free to select liberally from my Q.

254

Baldwin
ID: 10258919
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 15:08

Five guys still without 2 closers. Is this just a wierd year for available closers or is our league turning over a new leaf on closer runs?

255

Baldwin
ID: 10258919
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 15:10

Tree is deliberately stealing my players. I am convinced of it.

256

biliruben
ID: 461142511
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 15:20

Did you check TREEGOALS2009 ??!

4b) Put high priority to drafting ancient, over-the-hill sluggers in order to frustrate Baldwin, but at the same time save him from himself.

257

PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 15:32

This is the first year I actually had a closer that was good. Or the first year I ever had 2!

258

biliruben
ID: 461142511
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 15:34

You spelled it wrong, It's C-loser.

259

Tree
ID: 61411921
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 15:36

i think it's been the kind of year where a lot of people are reaching.

there are a TON of sleeper picks that have gone too early. guys i am high on, but not willing to take in the first half of the draft, like Devine, Milledge, Cruz, Aviles, Span, and Dukes...and maybe even Sandoval, but with his C-eligibility, it's harder to ignore him.

not dissing any of the above players. i'm pretty sure that i have most of them on one team or another - i just think it was too early to take them.

then there are other guys - and i won't list them - that i think were terrible picks, because they could have been gotten 6 or 7 rounds later, IMHO...

260

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 15:40

Zen Let's get moving!

Punk Yeah cause the season is right around the corner...

Actually that's not the point Punk.

Do you know what the point is? Probably not, or you wouldn't take 5 hours for your pick and then just shrug it off.

The point is, the people drafting after you are checking in, to see if you've picked, because they don't want to be rude to the person after them, and it's really annoying to be chained to the computer waiting for your turn if you don't want to leave a que.

So the issue isn't "when the season starts" it's that most of us don't want to keep coming back to the computer every 15 minutes to see if the person in front of has picked yet.

Now there are 2 ways to solve it. One you can leave a que if you think you will be away for a while. Two, you can say "hey, I don't want to leave a que but I won't be picking for 5 hours so don't hang around waiting".

If everyday life gets in the way and you can't avoid holding up the draft without warning, it's at least nice to come back on and say "sorry guys, the dog ate my homework paper".

So you see, it has nothing to do with when the season starts.

8-}

261

biliruben
ID: 461142511
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 15:50

No doubt, Tree.

It's just the nature of this league. 7 keepers is just a massive amount of talent to be able to transferring year to year, so if you want to have a shot of contending, you have to take chances.

So people like you and I, with a decent stable of 1st and 2nd-tier keeper talent can take the Derrick Lees and Jermaine Dyes, and not hurt ourselves too much long-term. People with really on 3-4 keeper level players have to take chances on to Devines and Spans, in the hope they turn into keeper material. They know that Dye will never be a keeper again, so why bother unless you think you can legitimately play for this year.

262

Pancho Villa
ID: 30230125
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 16:09

OK, off to pick up my son from(cue evil sounding music)school, and we're off to spend a couple hours pissing off the commie pinkos by playing golf. He got some new clubs for his 11th birthday last week, time we put em to use.

Loooooong que set.

263

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 16:27

there are a TON of sleeper picks that have gone too early....Millege

OK well you are scratching your head so let me run my logic by you.

I took Milledge with the 162nd pick of the draft.

A keeper league draft.

Now the only way I know to analyze how "early" that is, aside from each of our opinions, would be to take a random look at cheat sheets.

Milledge picked 162

Rotowire 125

Rotoworld 106

ESPN 142

Yahoo Bigger Board 99

Those were honestly the only 4 I looked at.

Oh and did I mention this was a keeper league?

SO since my 162 pick was much later then any of the 4 above cheat sheets recommended, can we surmise it was "too early" or did I deduce someone like Tree thought Milledge was a"Sleeper" and might be close to grabbing him 57 slots LATER then Rotoworld suggested.

I actually didn't think Milledge was a "sleeper" until after getting him as late as the 162 pick of a draft. I was surprised he fell that far.

Anyway I'm not trying to win, I am just trying to get enough good players to use as trade bait for draft slots next year. 8:}

264

Baldwin
ID: 10258919
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 16:31

I was sooo picking Cruz the round he went...but no. I was lined up for Kendrick...but no. Same for Nolasco. It's been frustrating. These are players that could easily have gone a round later in many drafts.

265

Baldwin
ID: 10258919
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 16:34

Phew...I finally got someone I had been holding my breath over.

266

Action Figure
ID: 481117213
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 16:36

then there are other guys - and i won't list them - that i think were terrible picks, because they could have been gotten 6 or 7 rounds later, IMHO...

6.03 Kenshin Kawakami, SP, ATL

If you want a guy cause you believe he can help you why chance it? Why wait for someone to grab him right before your pick.

Isn't everything/everyone a gamble anyway?

267

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 16:39

Five guys still without 2 closers. Is this just a wierd year for available closers or is our league turning over a new leaf on closer runs?

Last year I left the draft with one closer, my keeper Joe Nathan.

I finished saves in 4th place with 5 full time closers Nathan, Mike Gonzalez, Jensen Lewis, Salmon Torres and Chris Perez.

Why pay for something that will be handed out for free later?

I think this league over pays for saves personally.

268

Baldwin
ID: 10258919
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 16:39

I really liked that Kenshin pick and he was on my radar. I think that will work out real well. I feel safer with Kuroda one pick later tho. Had you taken Kuroda I'd have Kendrick. So it goes.

269

Baldwin
ID: 10258919
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 16:41

Ziegler was outstanding too.

270

Baldwin
ID: 10258919
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 16:42

Has anyone ever won this league by punting saves? I am sure they have not.

271

Baldwin
ID: 10258919
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 16:45

BTW what is the average time between a player being named closer and him being snapped up? About negative three weeks to one month. Occupying a crucial bench slot in painfully short supply.

272

Seattle Zen
ID: 51229127
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 16:49

6.03 Kenshin Kawakami, SP, ATL

Yeah, I wanted to thank Action Figures for taking him... I didn't have to cross anyone off any list I had.

And I have some DEEP lists! :)

273

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 16:55

Has anyone ever won this league by punting saves? I am sure they have not.

I've never seen anyone in this league punt saves period let alone win the league doing it.

I think the "punt saves" theorists have been resoundingly quieted at this point.

274

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 17:02

BTW what is the average time between a player being named closer and him being snapped up? About negative three weeks to one month. Occupying a crucial bench slot in painfully short supply.

I can only speak for myself. Gonzalez I put on the DL as a long shot.

Torres, Perez and Lewis spent a short time on my bench, I grabbed them close to the anointment. I also grabbed 10 other people and dropped them who never made it to the end game.

Gotta be nimble. But then ask Bili because he's the king of RP hot potatoes.

275

Baldwin
ID: 10258919
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 17:05

SZ

I swear you have taken on the mantle of board crank, from Toral.

276

Baldwin
ID: 10258919
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 17:11

So next you will tell me Delmon Young bites. I have actually seen one account that he may not even start, while the majority of accounts say he is raking in preseason.

He's one guy I don't think I took too early.

277

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 17:19

SZ I didn't have to cross anyone off any list I had.

A dude, maybe the reason you didn't have him on your "deep list" is because you didn't realize he is an Atlanta Braves Pitcher.

278

Seattle Zen
ID: 51229127
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 17:22

I swear you have taken on the mantle of board crank

Oh, please, give me a break. I'm ribbing, joshing, teasing, all sorts of lighthearted verbs. Have you ever done a fantasy draft in person? What I'm doing is mild in comparison to most drafts.

Toral was a cranky, mean old man and he let it show.

Delmond Young was a great pick. He is still very young and I, for one, am certainly pulling for this pick to pay off in spades.

I'm really mad at B7 for taking Dempster, I had my sights on him, damn!

279

C1-NRB
ID: 559392411
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 17:41

I'm really mad at B7 for taking Dempster, I had my sights on him, damn!

I, too, thought he might last a little longer.

280

Perm Dude
ID: 25219128
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 17:45

I wished I'd taken Sherrill--it was between him and Choo, and I didn't think Choo would last long either.

281

Building 7
ID: 471052128
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 17:45

Sorry. It says Dempster was the 55th best player last year. I think as long as he gets away with that illegal delivery, he'll be OK. Twisting his glove at the batter while they're trying to concentrate. A complete distraction. Brilliant. You won't find this analysis anywhere else.

282

Perm Dude
ID: 25219128
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 17:48

Great pickup there, Zen.

283

Seattle Zen
ID: 51229127
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 17:54

Thanks, PD. Tree is right, this has been a strange draft. I like the Cubs chances this year. Lilly has been steady, should get some wins.

Lots of rounds left to go, will there be any young upside left?

284

Myboyjack
Dude
ID: 014826271
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 18:10

I am such a damned homer - I just can't help myself.

Ziegler and Perez being picked in this round really killed me - they were 1 and 2 in my Q

285

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 18:12

I had more young upside at the top of my list but Baldwin made me paranoid and I decided I needed a closer.

286

Action Figure
ID: 152151216
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 18:16

Yeah, I wanted to thank Action Figures for taking him... I didn't have to cross anyone off any list I had.

Yea I didn't even see him on a list.

Happy to save you some ink my friend.

287

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 18:59

Headed to bed. 16 player que left. Feel free to pick.

nerve

288

Taxman
ID: 3985420
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 20:01

Good catch Zen

Jeesh Tree...pay attention!!!

if you want to steal somebody's keepers grab 'em at the end of the season (like I did with Teagarden) and then claim you obtained for your last draft pick. This way is far too flagrant

289

Tree
ID: 61411921
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 20:03

SZ just posed that Maybin is NC's...where?

i don't see this anywhere..according to the draft thread, his keepers are: Lance Berkman, Nick Markakis, Alexei Rameriz, Jimmy Rollins, Jacob Ellsbury, Carlos Quentin, Kevin Youkilis, Colby Rasmus, Mike Moustakas, Andrew McCuthen

290

Seattle Zen
ID: 51229127
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 20:05

You pull a stunt like this at a live draft, Tree, and we'd make you take a shot of the nastiest, bottom shelf bathtub gin we could find!

You've found enough bargains already, dude.

291

Pancho Villa
ID: 30230125
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 20:07

post #31 keeper thread

Prospects

Will call up Cameron Maybin, OF, FL with my last pick of draft and keep...

Colby Rasmus, OF, St L
Mike Moustakas, SS, KC
Andrew McCuthen OF, Pit

292

Seattle Zen
ID: 51229127
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 20:09

Re 289

Ah, Perm failed to list Maybin in Nerve's list of Prospects in post zero of the draft thread. Look in post 7 of this thread, where Perm calls him Curtis Maybin. You address this issue in post 17 and Nerve straightens everything out in post 20.

293

Baldwin
ID: 10258919
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 20:09

In Tree's defense it was missing from the header listing the keepers.

294

Baldwin
ID: 10258919
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 20:12

And it was available on Kafenatid. I can imagine getting pretty excited discovering both facts. I still wouldn't have believed my eyes buuuuut...

295

Tree
ID: 61411921
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 20:13

SZ - i was just going by the listed keepers in the draft thread.

PV - as discussed in this thread, that was against rules.

however, it looks like he kept Maybin over McCuthen, so it's back to the drawing board for me.

we should correct Nerve's keeper list in the draft thread, and put a stop on the draft until i can find someone to pick in Maybin's stead. took a long time for me to dig up that faux-diamond.

296

Baldwin
ID: 10258919
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 20:14

If Tree worked at hard at the Poliboard as he does at the Poliboard league he'd be Spachalagu.

297

Seattle Zen
ID: 51229127
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 20:15

SZ - i was just going by the listed keepers in the draft thread.

I know, fair enough... here's your shot.

298

Baldwin
ID: 10258919
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 20:24

It may be a while before I defend you again, Tree. Store that feeling up.

299

Perm Dude
ID: 25219128
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 20:50

Sorry about that guys. OTC lists everyone, including prospect keepers. I should have kept him on the draft page to keep it clear.

I've stopped the draft on OTC. Lemme know who you want.

300

Baldwin
ID: 10258919
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 21:03

You don't have an edit function?

301

Perm Dude
ID: 25219128
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 21:07

Oops--didn't realize he already made his replacement pick. Give me two shakes and we'll be back up.

302

Taxman
ID: 3985420
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 21:51

I'm down...but left a queue if it cycles back to me before tomorrow

303

Action Figures
ID: 52122817
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 22:09

Holding off posting on the draft thread.

304

Action Figures
ID: 52122817
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 22:47

I didn't know we were able to keep 3 prospects and bring one up in the regular draft so I need to adjust my prospect keepers.

My last pick of the regular draft will be a call up from my prospect list. Elvis is in the building.

I would like my threee prospect keepers to be Gorkys Hernandez, Kyle Blanks and Carlos Triunfel

305

Action Figures
ID: 52122817
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 22:58

Is there anybody out there?

306

Baldwin
ID: 10258919
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 22:59

Some may call that too late, AF.

Some great value picks this round. If Bili wins it, it will be further vindication of the 'rag arm' theory.

307

Action Figures
ID: 52122817
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 23:08

I hope it's not too late.

I misunderstood the rule or didn't know the rule or there is no rule. I ran out of gas. I, I had a flat tire. I didn't have enough money for cab fare. My tux didn't come back from the cleaners. An old friend came in from out of town. Someone stole my car. There was an earthquake. A terrible flood. Locusts. IT WASN'T MY FAULT, I SWEAR TO GOD.

All my prospects are undraftable in this draft and the prospect draft didn't start yet so it shouldn't be a problem.

308

biliruben
Leader
ID: 589301110
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 23:12

Locusts?!? Why didn't you say so. Sign 'em up.

Rag arms. RAG ARMS!

He didn't mean it fellers.

309

Tree
ID: 61411921
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 23:19

ok. stop.

you cannot do what AF is proposing. it is against the rules.

we ultimately didn't allow Nerve to do it either.

he did not keep three prospects, PLUS name someone as his last round pick.

he ultimately had to keep three prospects, period.

what you are allowed to do is call up one of your THREE prospects for your last pick of the draft, thusly giving you an extra prospect slot for the prospect draft.

we went over this in the other thread.

310

Action Figures
ID: 52122817
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 23:21

Show me a rule.

311

Tree
ID: 61411921
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 23:44

the rule is you get to keep three prospects, not four. that's always been a rule, and it's a well established one.

312

Action Figures
ID: 52122817
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 23:49

Correct me if I'm wrong.

I don't think we have ever named prospect keepers before the regular draft.

313

Tree
ID: 61411921
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 23:53

yes we have. i know we did last year. it's easy enough to go back and check.

i don't think the threads before that are still active, so it's harder to go look.

314

Seattle Zen
ID: 51229127
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 23:57

Tree is right, AF. If you want to "call up" Elvis, that will give you an extra slot in which you may draft a player.

Show me a rule

That doesn't work here as we have not ever actually put our rules in writing.

315

Baldwin
ID: 10258919
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 00:21

Rules? We don't need no stinking rules. We got precedents and consensus.

316

C1-NRB
ID: 31050820
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 00:21

I ran out of gas. I, I had a flat tire. I didn't have enough money for cab fare. My tux didn't come back from the cleaners. An old friend came in from out of town. Someone stole my car. There was an earthquake. A terrible flood. Locusts. IT WASN'T MY FAULT, I SWEAR TO GOD.
That is so great.

That doesn't work here as we have not ever actually put our rules in writing.
If I'd know we were playing TEGWAR I'd have put on my blue hat this morning to get an extra pick between odd numbered rounds, what with it being an even-numbered Thursday and all.

317

Baldwin
ID: 10258919
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 00:22

Um, is the commish allowed to go to sleep before midnight? Who unplugged him from Obama?

318

Baldwin
ID: 10258919
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 00:23

Extra points for Calvin hair.

319

Perm Dude
ID: 25219128
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 00:40

Watched a couple of shows with my wife, worked on my new Facebook group page (thanks, MITH, for joining), and otherwise kept busy.

Here's the thing on prospects & drafting: nerve posted three prospect keepers, plus his intention to draft another prospect in the regular draft. This has been done in years past as well. Without the precedent being set, I would say that it shouldn't be allowed, but we're like the Catholic Church: Some things exist simply because we've done it for some time rather than whether it is right or wrong.

I believe in the other discussion thread I suggested a rule be proposed to clarify this, either codifying the process or banning it. In the meantime the practice is allowed.

320

Tree
ID: 61411921
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 00:51

oh, i see how it is. thank MITH for joining, but not me...mmmhmmm....

hmm, i wonder if i can create a facebook page for my takeout food column i write...interesting...

Here's the thing on prospects & drafting: nerve posted three prospect keepers, plus his intention to draft another prospect in the regular draft. This has been done in years past as well.

no. no. no. and again, no.

this has NEVER been done in the past.

i'm going to explain it again, for at least the third time. :o)

you get to name three prospect keepers. period. not three, plus announce you're going to draft one guy. THREE. 1.2.3. THREE.

Three is a magic number,
Yes it is, it's a magic number.
Somewhere in the ancient, mystic trinity
You get three as a magic number.

The past and the present and the future.
Faith and Hope and Charity,
The heart and the brain and the body
Give you three as a magic number.

It takes three legs to make a tri-pod
Or to make a table stand.
It takes three wheels to make a ve-hicle
Called a tricycle.

Every triangle has three corners,
Every triangle has three sides,
No more, no less.
You don't have to guess.
When it's three you can see
It's a magic number.

A man and a woman had a little baby,
Yes, they did.
They had three in the family,
And that's a magic number.

3-6-9, 12-15-18, 21-24-27, 30.
3-6-9, 12-15-18, 21-24-27, 30.
Multiply backwards from three times ten:

Three time ten is (30), three times nine is (27),
Three times eight is (24), three times seven is (21),
Three times six is (18), three times five is (15),
Three times four is twelve,
And three times three is nine, and three times two is six,
And three times one is three of course.

Now take the pattern once more:
Three! . . .3-6-9
Twelve! . . .12-15-18
Twenty-one!. . .21-24-27. . .30

Now multiply from 10 backwards:
Three time ten is (30 - Keep going), three times nine is (27),
Three times eight is (24), three times seven is (21),
Three times six is (18), three times five is (15),
Three times four is twelve,
And three times three is nine, and three times two is six,
And three times one...
What is it?!
Three!
Yeah, That's a magic number.

A man and a woman had a little baby.
Yes, they did.
They had three in the family.
That's a magic number.

ok. sorry. i really felt the need to drive that point home.

now, before the start of the PROSPECT draft, you can announce you are moving one of your THREE prospects up to your roster (or, presumably, two prospects, or all three if you want), and then you have open spots on your prospect roster for the prospect draft.

the part where the confusion comes from is that usually what people have done is announced they are calling up such and such prospect from their prospect keepers list, and they'll just use their last draft pick for that person.

then they have an "extra" spot on their prospect keeper list, so when the prospect draft starts, they can fill that slot.

321

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 01:01

nerve posted three prospect keepers, plus his intention to draft another prospect in the regular draft. This has been done in years past as well

I did but then realised the mistake and dropped McCutchen So I was only keeping 3, Maybin, Moustakes and Rasmus.

I believe I was prevented from doing it one other year also.

322

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 01:01

I just picked for CC.

323

Perm Dude
ID: 25219128
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 01:01

Ah yes, you did join. Thanks. Now send me a check.

") [Picasso smile]

Actually, I think you are right on this. Last year Zen did it, but he called up one of his three prospect keepers.

I think, in this case, nerve will have to drop one of his 4 prospects. Hopefully he'll keep Maybin--otherwise we'll see a real sh!tfest on the boards.

324

Perm Dude
ID: 25219128
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 01:02

Was writing when NC was posting. Good--sounds clear, then.

325

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 01:05

Is Zen still around to pick?

326

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 01:08

now, before the start of the PROSPECT draft, you can announce you are moving one of your THREE prospects up to your roster (or, presumably, two prospects, or all three if you want), and then you have open spots on your prospect roster for the prospect draft.

This is what we agreed to in a nut shell and I know because it's now affected me twice.

327

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 01:09

I just realized Zen Left a que and I drafted for him. I will pick momentarily.

328

Baldwin
ID: 10258919
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 09:37

I'm stepping out briefly. My queue is good to go. Use it immediately.

329

Taxman
ID: 3985420
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 10:08

B-7 & alphabet...Welcome to my world. Bet your invite ommitted the standing rule:""we don't need no stinking rules".

'Twas omitted from mine as well. I think they just do it to Texicans for entertainment. I entered the fray several centuries ago, at least it seems more than just a season and 1/2. May not be any rules, but no shortage of opinions. It's a joy to watch things mesh themselves out in light of no rules. You see all these political activists are not registered to vote on proposed poli rules; or maybe they just don't care enough to vote, or, most likely, none can agree on the time of day.

btw, not a bad fantasy group

330

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 10:36

Tax

Some would say the problem is that thre are actually too many rules, not that there aren't enough... (that would be the anarchist contingent)

331

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 11:29

Coldwater Coyotes don't forget you have two picks almost in a row sandwhiching Zen's pick.

332

coldwater coyotes
ID: 451159910
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 11:46

Tks ...I did forget

333

Seattle Zen
ID: 33255138
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 12:34

Trade announcement

MBJ gives me his draft picks 9.11 and 14.11

SZ gives MBJ picks 10.09 & 11.09

334

biliruben
Leader
ID: 589301110
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 12:37

...and the player Zen so desperately wants is...

335

Seattle Zen
ID: 33255138
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 12:47

I would wait for MBJ's confirmation, but I have to run, so.. the player is...

336

Baldwin
ID: 10258919
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 12:56

Bah, you don't really want Thome. He's ooooold.

337

Biliruben
ID: 52052916
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 13:03

Admitedly that's a pretty good pick...

338

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 13:04

wait I am confused.

It's zen's turn?

339

Biliruben
ID: 52052916
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 13:08

See 333

340

Perm Dude
ID: 1520138
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 13:13

He was in my queue as well. If he had some positional eligibility I'd had snagged him. But he'll be clogging up a UT spot everytime he's out there.

341

Tree
ID: 61411921
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 13:28

sonuva bitch. really?

damnit. he was at the top of my queue because at this late juncture, MB is a steal...

342

biliruben
ID: 461142511
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 14:25

I wonder if Tax knows he's up...

Stupid Konstipatid.

343

Taxman
ID: 3985420
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 14:25

I can't figure out who we are waiting on. Gotta go. I'm gone for 3-4 hrs but have an OTC queue for round 16 pick

344

biliruben
ID: 461142511
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 14:28

Wait! Stop! We are waiting on you, Tax!

Pay no mind to KanBeHated. Focus here!

Especially in these late rounds, ignore the machine. It will grind you up.

345

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 14:28

I thought it was Zen's pick because he traded with MBJ.

346

biliruben
ID: 461142511
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 14:30

He DID pick. Over an hour ago. We've been waiting around because people have become sheep to the machine.

Crap.

347

Tree
ID: 61411921
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 14:33

because the machine, emails me when i'm up to pick. so that's what *I* wait for.

probably what Tax is waiting for too. much easier than sitting around checking a message board.

348

biliruben
ID: 461142511
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 14:35

Worked marvelously, didn't it. 5 hours down the tubes.

349

Perm Dude
ID: 1520138
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 14:36

Waiting for me, apparently. The trade on OTC didn't "take" and so MBJ was shown as still being up.

Just made the trade and picked up Zen's player.

350

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 14:38

That's why I was asking. I showed MBJ (Zen) up also.

351

Baldwin
ID: 10258919
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 14:38

I was all set to pick MB last pick but then I remembered just how irritating he is with the phantom injuries.

352

Perm Dude
ID: 1520138
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 14:38

tree's up.

Looks like we'll probably finish Tuesday or Wednesday. Plenty of time.

353

biliruben
ID: 461142511
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 14:40

In these late rounds, people can't just mindlessly rely on KastiGated. There are trades being made, and there are players available that haven't been ground into the machine.

The draft thread here is the primary. If you have any doubts just peek in.

354

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 14:40

Don't blame Kafe Bili it's a machine. The delay revolved around a trade made minutes before a pick that involved human input and confusion.

I'm in the 25th round of a "normal" draft on Kafe in another league with Tree and PD and it's going without a hitch and is at round 24.

355

biliruben
ID: 461142511
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 14:44

I'm not, Nerve. I'm blaming the sheep that have become slaves to it, and can't be bothered to simply look at the draft thread to find out where we are.

356

biliruben
ID: 461142511
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 14:52

Tree - you around?

I need to get out of here, but my player's not in KrapInfested.

Anybody take a Q?

357

Myboyjack
Dude
ID: 014826271
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 14:57

358

biliruben
ID: 461142511
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 14:57

I'll try and check in via I-phone.

Be aware that my spot on KatHated will not go forward until PD kicks it somehow, but we will be in a new round nonetheless.

359

biliruben
ID: 461142511
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 14:58

Cool. Sent.

360

Perm Dude
ID: 1520138
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 14:59

here.

361

Myboyjack
Dude
ID: 014826271
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 15:04

Until this year, I believed I was Chief of the Anti-Kafe Tribe; but, I have to take off my crown to you, bili :)

362

Taxman
ID: 3985420
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 15:05

didn't leave yet...had to leave boldy a response

So I was waiting on me. That is just ludicrous. I've got to stop looking at OTC and pay attention to draft thread.

be back in a few hours.

363

Seattle Zen
ID: 33255138
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 15:21

Wow, I have loved the picks this round. I think we'll look back on the draft and say there were more bargains in this round than any other.

The list of good players rapidly flying off the board got me concerned, so I made my proposal to MBJ and I am thrilled that I landed Milton. As the 19th player added to my team, I think it was a risk worth taking.

364

Tree
ID: 61411921
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 15:22

bili - if we used kaf, and not this thread also, the draft would be much smoother.

i was aware the minute i came up to pick, because it emailed me. i'm just torn between a few players since SZ stole the Gamemaster from me.

365

Myboyjack
Dude
ID: 014826271
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 15:28

bili pick is Pedro Martinez, former pitcher, Red Sox, et al.. I'll post it in dradt thread, but PD will need to fix Kafe..

366

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 15:34

So what happens to Kafe if Bili's pick isn't there? Will it still move forward?

367

C1-NRB
ID: 559392411
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 15:40

PD can fix it or if bili comes back he can free-form Pedro into his spot.

A designated picker can't free-form; only the player and commish can.

368

Perm Dude
ID: 1520138
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 15:43

I'll put a spacer in, then swap out when Pedro is added.

pd

369

Perm Dude
ID: 1520138
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 16:27

Corrected in OTC--KKB added him right away.

370

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 17:00

MBJ are you around? Hoping to pick and go to bed.

371

Seattle Zen
ID: 33255138
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 17:42

Great pick in Reynolds. It hurt me to see he was still available with the pick I sent to MBJ.

372

Taxman
ID: 3985420
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 18:02

PD ....please fix OTC, you hit my queue which I thought I turned off when I got back 20 minutes ago.

373

Baldwin
ID: 10258919
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 18:15

Travis Snider, a prospect keeper is available on kafenatid. How many prospect keepers slipped thru?

374

biliruben
ID: 461142511
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 18:34

I've noticed a few. I didn't realize we even made an attempt to exclude them.

375

Tree
ID: 61411921
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 18:36

i didnt even know you could exclude them.

376

Perm Dude
ID: 1520138
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 19:29

You can't exclude them. KKB uses the Yahoo player database.

377

Taxman
ID: 3985420
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 20:33

If punk working same schedule as yesterday, see #252, he's not off 'till 12 (EST, PST??). Thus I'm crawling into a bottle.

buenos noches

378

Tree
ID: 61411921
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 21:02

Punk has left a queue. i just need to scroll up and make sure it's for this round.

379

Tree
ID: 61411921
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 21:05

ok. reading up, he said he left a three person queue, and not take anyone of the same position.

the person in the queue is a different position, so i'm gonna go ahead and use the queue.

380

Action Figures
ID: 52122817
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 23:12

picking

381

Baldwin
ID: 10258919
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 23:26

Present.

382

Action Figures
ID: 52122817
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 23:40

I guess I need to add a player in kafenatid.

Jr. is not there.

383

Perm Dude
ID: 1520138
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 23:42

that's weird.

I'll put a placeholder in OTC for you, then email KKB.

384

Action Figures
ID: 52122817
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 23:46

I was going to pick Billy Wagner as a placeholder.

Nippert was in my queue.

385

PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Sat, Mar 14, 2009, 00:40

#379ok. reading up, he said he left a three person queue, and not take anyone of the same position.

the person in the queue is a different position, so i'm gonna go ahead and use the queue.

Obviously that part didn't make sense to whoever made my pick in the morning.

386

Perm Dude
ID: 1520138
Sat, Mar 14, 2009, 00:42

you've got time. Swap him out.

387

PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Sat, Mar 14, 2009, 00:52

Ehh whichever, it was long ago.

388

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Sat, Mar 14, 2009, 01:04

Punk I made the pick but the way I read you post you made it at 2:57PM on Mar 12th. You said you were working until 12 AM that night.

I made the pick the next morning at 8AM so you would have been home for 8 hours and logically had time to update the list.

Your only concern expressed in the note was until 12AM the night before.

389

Baldwin
ID: 10258919
Sat, Mar 14, 2009, 09:38

I really can't make heads or tails out of who is up in the draft. MBJ? CC? Someone who traded for that spot?

390

biliruben
Leader
ID: 589301110
Sat, Mar 14, 2009, 09:41

It looks to be the real MBJ. I'll update Nerve's pick in case he is looking at the draft thread.

391

Baldwin
ID: 10258919
Sat, Mar 14, 2009, 09:43

Looks like MBJ traded for this spot.

392

biliruben
Leader
ID: 589301110
Sat, Mar 14, 2009, 09:48

Yes.

393

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Sat, Mar 14, 2009, 09:53

Bili that was my last round pick

I go after MBJ he has Zen's pick before me. Reynolds was last round.

394

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Sat, Mar 14, 2009, 09:53

Zen traded the pick for MBJ's last round pick to get Milton B.

395

biliruben
Leader
ID: 589301110
Sat, Mar 14, 2009, 10:01

Huh. Okay. So we are still 11.09 and waiting for MBJ, Kostipated just claims we are down at 11.11 why?

Anyway, I think we are right in the draft thread now.

396

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Sat, Mar 14, 2009, 10:06

Kostipated just claims we are down at 11.11 why?

The word blond comes to mind.

It doesn't claim that Bili, you are just continuing to show how technologically challenged you are. It is showing the 9TH pick...18.09 but it has moved down to MBJ for the pick because Zen traded the spot to him.

If MBJ goes to Kafe he will see his pick is up.

I am going out to eat, left a que, pick away.

397

Tree
ID: 61411921
Sat, Mar 14, 2009, 10:16

man. i'm going to say it again. and i'm going to suggest as a trial - maybe for football next year, or baseball - we go to a Kaf only draft.

this is the one league where Kaf has any problems, and it's because we're basically doing double work, and having to keep track of two different things.

bili - don't fear the new.

398

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Sat, Mar 14, 2009, 10:17

MBJ is up again

399

Tree
ID: 61411921
Sat, Mar 14, 2009, 10:24

Tax has left a queue. i'm gonna give him 30 or so to pick on his own, and if he hasn't picked by then, i'll pick for him, and then for myself.

400

Myboyjack
Dude
ID: 014826271
Sat, Mar 14, 2009, 10:28

tree-we did several drafts with kafe only-PD move to both was a reaction to the problems there.

I haven't seen any big problems this year, so I'm not sure what the issue is. This has been one of faster, though most boring drafts.

401

Baldwin
ID: 10258919
Sat, Mar 14, 2009, 10:49

Bili left a queue but he's around...should I use it?

402

Baldwin
ID: 10258919
Sat, Mar 14, 2009, 10:50

We are going to have a prospect keeper draft before the season starts, yes?

403

Myboyjack
Dude
ID: 014826271
Sat, Mar 14, 2009, 10:50

I'd wait 5 before - unless Punk is around with his finger on the trigger....

404

biliruben
Leader
ID: 589301110
Sat, Mar 14, 2009, 10:55

I don't fear the new. I've used Krapstained several times now. It has it's uses.

I'm simply disappointed that people, including you Tree, tend to rely on it too much. This causes problems that outweigh it's modest usefulness. It also decreases anything other than autonomic response, making the draft bland and boring, and frankly more work than fun.

405

Myboyjack
Dude
ID: 014826271
Sat, Mar 14, 2009, 10:59

kafe v. board draft = slot machines v. black jack

406

Tree
ID: 61411921
Sat, Mar 14, 2009, 11:15

dont know what you're talking about bili - i rely on it, because it emails me. the board doesn't. i don't have to continually check in.

in regards to response, i disagree. i come here regularly, so it's easy to comment on the draft. but there's a difference between coming here to comment, and coming here to check in.

407

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Sat, Mar 14, 2009, 11:20

We are going to have a prospect keeper draft before the season starts, yes?

We agreed the prospect draft is starting immediately after the regular draft so to me that means we just keep plowing through without a pause.

No kafe for prospect.

408

biliruben
Leader
ID: 589301110
Sat, Mar 14, 2009, 11:47

Tree -

As far as I can tell, you have made exactly two comments not related to defending or fixing K throughout the whole draft.

That compares to dozens and dozens I recall you made in previous years.

You are far more disengaged, and we have had to wait far longer for you to pick than last year.

409

Seattle Zen
ID: 20259149
Sat, Mar 14, 2009, 11:59

Here's a comment:

Trading away two draft picks so that there are 38 players and quite possibly 48 hours between picks... sucks. As you might imagine, queues get decimated.

Bili is right, Tree, you haven't left a single Q in Krapcontained. All it has done for you is send you an email, yipee!

410

Seattle Zen
ID: 20259149
Sat, Mar 14, 2009, 12:07

Action Figures

I don't think the phone number you left on the Yahoo site works. I've called it three times and I get some message. You are up.

411

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Sat, Mar 14, 2009, 13:06

AF's number is correct I tried calling to with no luck.

Nerve

412

Tree
ID: 61411921
Sat, Mar 14, 2009, 13:55

the reason you've waited longer for me - with one exception when i was nowhere near a computer - is because it's taking me a lot longer to pick someone. the majority of my picks have seen me at my computer, for over an hour at a time, going back and forth over who i want.

a queue won't help there.

413

PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Sat, Mar 14, 2009, 14:07

The queue only means your choice is made if you aren't there. How many times do we second guess who we're going to go with after we see other picks gone?

414

Baldwin
ID: 10258919
Sat, Mar 14, 2009, 14:16

What I just hate is picking the guy on my want list I think will be picked first over the guy I really want who I expect will last a couple more rounds.

415

C1-NRB
ID: 31050820
Sat, Mar 14, 2009, 14:19

PuNk42AE: The queue only means your choice is made if you aren't there. How many times do we second guess who we're going to go with after we see other picks gone?

Um, almost every time?

416

Seattle Zen
ID: 20259149
Sat, Mar 14, 2009, 14:20

Political Board Fantasy Baseball

We put the SLOW in Slow Drafts.

417

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Sat, Mar 14, 2009, 14:31

Another frustrating paint dry, let's get this thing over with.

418

Baldwin
ID: 10258919
Sat, Mar 14, 2009, 14:45

My queue is good to go. I am going to crash. Use Queue immediately.

419

PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Sat, Mar 14, 2009, 15:06

That is exactly my point. You change your pick all the time, a queue changes that drastically.

420

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Sat, Mar 14, 2009, 15:30

Well I give up I am headed to bed.

My que is set. Please only make one pick for me. I will bring the computer to bed and try to groggily check up on it.

My pick is still 7 away and then it would have to get all the way back around for a second pick.

421

Seattle Zen
ID: 20259149
Sat, Mar 14, 2009, 16:11

Congratulations are in order for Biliruben as his alma mater just made its way to the Big Dance for the very first time!

The jewel of that part of New York just above PA, SUNY Binghampton is going to the Dance

I don't think they call themselves SUNY anymore.

422

biliruben
Leader
ID: 589301110
Sat, Mar 14, 2009, 16:31

Heh. Yeah I was walking around Seattle Center with the boy on my shoulders and I saw the score it a sportsbar while waiting for the light to change.

Wahoo!

423

Action Figures
ID: 52122817
Sat, Mar 14, 2009, 16:36

How many more picks?

424

Action Figures
ID: 52122817
Sat, Mar 14, 2009, 16:40

Lost my phone. Lucky some stranger didn't find it and make a pick for me.

Go to league page for a temp/backup phone number.

Sorry about the delay but it's almost over.

Right?

425

biliruben
Leader
ID: 589301110
Sat, Mar 14, 2009, 16:40

2 more for you, I think.

426

Tree
ID: 61411921
Sat, Mar 14, 2009, 18:20

heading out for a few hours.

left a queue for my next pick only. round 19.

427

Seattle Zen
ID: 20259149
Sat, Mar 14, 2009, 19:02

I assumed MBJ wanted us to use his Q.

I may need to call my team the Janitors as I have so many guys batting clean-up. I like Mark Reynolds and think Nerve made a wise pick, but I think I'm liking the Kouz even more because I read he will be batting behind Adrian Gonzalez at clean up. Yes, the Pads' offense is anemic, but this Russian can CRUSH.

"Clean up in aisle four!"

428

Perm Dude
ID: 29211415
Sat, Mar 14, 2009, 19:52

Dammit, tree took my sleeper!

429

Action Figures
ID: 52122817
Sat, Mar 14, 2009, 20:56

Dammit, tree took my sleeper!

Who's sleeper did I take?

430

Seattle Zen
ID: 20259149
Sat, Mar 14, 2009, 21:09

How could a 10 wins and a 1.64 ERA guy be considered "sleepy"?

431

Perm Dude
ID: 29211415
Sat, Mar 14, 2009, 21:32

55Ks in 61 innings. Fuentes with back problems means this guy (who already has closer stuff) has the potential to be the closer on a team that won 100 games last year.

Second last round of the draft = sleeper to me.

432

Tree
ID: 61411921
Sat, Mar 14, 2009, 21:54

yea, he's a sleeper.

trade him for Chris Davis, PD...

433

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Sat, Mar 14, 2009, 22:08

As promised, reset my que in middle of night. Feel free to take my next pick. Going back to sleep.

434

C1-NRB
ID: 31050820
Sat, Mar 14, 2009, 22:38

My queue is on and I'm out.

435

biliruben
Leader
ID: 589301110
Sat, Mar 14, 2009, 22:42

Who's sleeper did I take?

Actually, 3 of your last 4 were folks I had my eye on. Might not have taken them, but in the realm.

436

Action Figures
ID: 52122817
Sat, Mar 14, 2009, 22:53

"Who's sleeper did I take?"

"Actually, 3 of your last 4 were folks I had my eye on. Might not have taken them, but in the realm."

That's not quite the same as "Dammit AF took my sleeper" but thanks anyway.

437

Tree
ID: 61411921
Sat, Mar 14, 2009, 23:18

i picked from Punk's queue, as it was a different position than last round.

438

Building 7
ID: 70243116
Sun, Mar 15, 2009, 00:18

I'm done. Baldwin has my last pick. Good luck to everyone.

439

Baldwin
ID: 10258919
Sun, Mar 15, 2009, 02:52

Note to PD.

Please note #438.

440

Baldwin
ID: 10258919
Sun, Mar 15, 2009, 02:56

Also, before my last pick rolls around, I will need to know whether we are having our prospect keeper draft before the season commences.

441

biliruben
Leader
ID: 589301110
Sun, Mar 15, 2009, 08:20

The regular draft rolls right into the prospect draft.

442

Pancho Villa
ID: 12291420
Sun, Mar 15, 2009, 11:12

Most pressing question!!

When can we officially start calling Charlie Longview/Kelso Zen?

443

Seattle Zen
ID: 29224159
Sun, Mar 15, 2009, 11:24

NEVER!

444

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Sun, Mar 15, 2009, 11:30

Cameron Maybin is the only player in my que and the que is turned on.

That means I am done peeps.

445

Pancho Villa
ID: 12291420
Sun, Mar 15, 2009, 11:39

Three player que is available. If it runs out, you'll have to wait until I finish embarrassing myself on the golf course.

446

Seattle Zen
ID: 29224159
Sun, Mar 15, 2009, 11:44

Isn't this right about the time that Baldwin starts bellyaching about how short our bench is? It sounds just like, and is just as predictable, as a cow who hasn't been milked in two days.

447

Seattle Zen
ID: 29224159
Sun, Mar 15, 2009, 11:46

Just a reminder to Action Figures. You have your own pick 14.03 and my 14.09.

I have MBJ's 14.11.

448

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Sun, Mar 15, 2009, 12:46

As we wind down the draft, can we take a moment to celebrate what we have here?

This league started 5-6-7? years ago.

We have a fairly animated discussion during the draft. The fact we have liberals and conservatives and conspiracy disciples all competing and taking good natured jabs at each other...it's really a cool thing.

I joined a new league this year with Tree and PD (gurukeepers) I am very excited about the new challenge, and apprecate the opportunity, but go look at their draft thread, 1-2-3 posts a day, barely a grunt.

So a toast to everyone at the start of a new season.

I just wanted to take a moment to reflect on the political gurupie baseball league phenomenon.

449

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Sun, Mar 15, 2009, 12:47

Bili has a que, is that for the taking?

450

biliruben
ID: 461142511
Sun, Mar 15, 2009, 12:52

Agreed, Nerve!

451

Tree
ID: 61411921
Sun, Mar 15, 2009, 13:04

there is no doubt this is my favorite league to play in. i hate the attrition that happens every year, but still, i find it a very competitive league, filled with smack talking and players who are keenly aware of what they are doing.

452

PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Sun, Mar 15, 2009, 13:06

After two series of coin flips my final pick is in. Had a Best of 3 between 2 Pitchers, and then a best of 5 between a Pitcher and Hitter.

453

Baldwin
ID: 10258919
Sun, Mar 15, 2009, 13:47

Queue is good to go. Use it immediately.

454

Seattle Zen
ID: 29224159
Sun, Mar 15, 2009, 15:13

Left a message for Action Figures

455

Perm Dude
ID: 29211415
Sun, Mar 15, 2009, 15:29

He's got a guy in his queue--I dunno if he wants me to use it. A SS.

456

Seattle Zen
ID: 29224159
Sun, Mar 15, 2009, 15:37

I was just on the phone with AF. Yes, PD, please pick the SS he has in his queue.

457

Seattle Zen
ID: 29224159
Sun, Mar 15, 2009, 16:20

PD, AF wants to "call up" Elvis Andrus with this pick. Could you make it happen on Kaf?

Then Nerve wants to "call up" Cameron Maybin with 14.10

I have 14.11

458

Perm Dude
ID: 29211415
Sun, Mar 15, 2009, 16:32

Done. I'm busy plugging players into Yahoo--can you post these on the draft thread?

thanks

459

Seattle Zen
ID: 29224159
Sun, Mar 15, 2009, 16:52

We're DONE!

460

Tree
ID: 61411921
Sun, Mar 15, 2009, 17:04

i'm in the market for a catcher. :o)

461

Perm Dude
ID: 29211415
Sun, Mar 15, 2009, 18:41

Late tonight I'll start the prospect draft thread and so on. Family time right now.

462

Perm Dude
ID: 29211415
Sun, Mar 15, 2009, 21:32

Players are entered into Yahoo (Go to Player List, then sort by your team name). I spot-checked each roster but let me know if any errors crept in. Yahoo makes it really easy to enter offline results so I might have been too quick to add a player or two.

Will set up the prospect draft in just a bit. We moved through the regular draft a few days earlier than I expected--nice work, everyone.

463

biliruben
Leader
ID: 589301110
Sun, Mar 15, 2009, 22:12

Well... Brignac was a reject, but such is life. Forgot to turn off the q, and he was the last man standing. I'll probably cut him, unless something miraculous happens. Can't afford two dead roster spots.

GREAT JOB, PD! YOU ROCK! HERE'S HOPING FOR A 2ND PLACE FINISH FOR YOU THIS YEAR! YOU EARNED IT.

464

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Mon, Mar 16, 2009, 00:14

PD I can't believe you got the rosters up already. You are nothing short of amazing this year. Big thanks it's a lot of hard, time consuming work.

465

Perm Dude
ID: 29211415
Mon, Mar 16, 2009, 00:25

I don't know how this'll come out, but here are the OTC results:

Rd.Pk Player Name Pos Team Manager Traded From

Punk

1.01 Geovany Soto C CHC Punk42AE
2.01 Dustin Pedroia 2B BOS Punk42AE
3.01 Aramis Ramirez 3B CHC Punk42AE
4.01 Matt Cain SP SFO Punk42AE
5.01 Clayton Kershaw SP LAD Punk42AE
6.01 CC Sabathia SP NYY Punk42AE
7.01 Carlos Marmol RP CHC Punk42AE
8.01 Nate McLouth OF PIT Punk42AE
9.01 Matt Capps RP PIT Punk42AE
10.01 Heath Bell RP SDG Punk42AE
11.01 J.J. Hardy SS MIL Punk42AE
12.01 Nelson Cruz OF TEX Punk42AE
13.01 Carlos Zambrano SP CHC Punk42AE
14.01 Coco Crisp OF KAN Punk42AE
15.01 Billy Butler 1B KAN Punk42AE
16.01 Casey Kotchman 1B ATL Punk42AE
17.01 Mike Fontenot 2B CHC Punk42AE
18.01 John Baker C FLA Punk42AE
19.01 J.D. Drew OF BOS Punk42AE
20.01 Chris Volstad SP FLA Punk42AE
21.01 Mike Pelfrey SP NYM Punk42AE

C1-NRB

1.02 Adrian Gonzalez 1B SDG C1-NRB
2.02 Joey Votto OF CIN C1-NRB
3.02 Ian Stewart 3B COL C1-NRB
4.02 Bobby Abreu OF LAA C1-NRB
5.02 Carlos Beltran OF NYM C1-NRB
6.02 B.J. Ryan RP TOR C1-NRB
7.02 Chris Young SP SDG C1-NRB
8.02 Joe Mauer C MIN C1-NRB
8.14 Cliff Lee SP CLE C1-NRB biliruben
9.02 Carlos Pena UTL TAM C1-NRB
10.02 Placido Polanco 2B DET C1-NRB
12.02 Mike Aviles SS KAN C1-NRB
13.02 John Danks SP CWS C1-NRB
14.02 Brad Ziegler RP OAK C1-NRB
15.02 Ryan Theriot SS CHC C1-NRB
16.02 Jon Rauch RP ARI C1-NRB
17.02 Casey Blake 3B LAD C1-NRB
18.02 Marlon Byrd OF TEX C1-NRB
19.02 Brandon McCarthy SP TEX C1-NRB
20.02 Josh Willingham OF WAS C1-NRB
21.02 Cla Meredith RP SDG C1-NRB

Action Figure

1.03 James Loney 1B LAD Action Figure
2.03 Brian McCann C ATL Action Figure
3.03 Hunter Pence OF HOU Action Figure
4.03 Ichiro Suzuki OF SEA Action Figure
5.03 Dan Uggla 2B FLA Action Figure
6.03 Jose Valverde RP HOU Action Figure
7.03 Chipper Jones 3B ATL Action Figure
8.03 Javier Vazquez SP ATL Action Figure
9.03 Scott Baker SP MIN Action Figure
11.03 Derek Lowe SP ATL Action Figure
12.03 Brad Hawpe OF COL Action Figure
13.03 Kenshin Kawakami SP ATL Action Figure
14.03 Huston Street RP COL Action Figure
15.03 Troy Percival RP TAM Action Figure
16.03 Pat Burrell UTL TAM Action Figure
17.03 Jason Kubel OF MIN Action Figure
18.03 Ken Griffey, Jr UTL SEA Action Figure
19.03 Rafael Soriano RP ATL Action Figure
20.03 David Aardsma RP SEA Action Figure
21.03 Luis Rodriguez SS SDG Action Figure
21.09 Elvis Andrus SS TEX Action Figure Seattle Zen

Baldwin

1.04 Alfonso Soriano OF CHC Baldwin
2.04 Curtis Granderson OF DET Baldwin
3.04 Dan Haren SP ARI Baldwin
4.04 Michael Young SS TEX Baldwin
5.04 Shane Victorino OF PHI Baldwin
6.04 Ryan Zimmerman 3B WAS Baldwin
7.04 Brian Fuentes RP LAA Baldwin
8.04 Francisco Liriano SP MIN Baldwin
10.04 Trevor Hoffman RP MIL Baldwin
11.04 Kevin Slowey SP MIN Baldwin
12.04 Gil Meche SP KAN Baldwin
13.04 Hiroki Kuroda SP LAD Baldwin
14.04 Delmon Young UTL MIN Baldwin
15.04 Manuel Corpas RP COL Baldwin
16.04 Paul Konerko 1B CWS Baldwin
17.04 Clint Barmes 2B COL Baldwin
18.04 Todd Helton UTL COL Baldwin
19.04 Alexi Casilla 2B MIN Baldwin
20.04 Aaron Rowand UTL SFO Baldwin
21.04 Ivan Rodriguez C NYY Baldwin
21.05 Billy Wagner RP NYM Baldwin bjclinton0

Building 7

1.05 Evan Longoria 3B TAM bjclinton0
2.05 Magglio Ordonez OF DET bjclinton0
3.05 B.J. Upton OF TAM bjclinton0
4.05 Josh Beckett SP BOS bjclinton0
5.05 Scott Kazmir SP TAM bjclinton0
6.05 Mariano Rivera RP NYY bjclinton0
7.05 Stephen Drew SS ARI bjclinton0
8.06 Jonathan Broxton RP LAD bjclinton0 Pancho Villa
9.04 Chone Figgins 2B LAA bjclinton0 Baldwin
9.06 Carlos Delgado 1B NYM bjclinton0 Pancho Villa
10.05 Mike Gonzalez RP ATL bjclinton0
11.05 Matt Lindstrom RP FLA bjclinton0
12.05 Pablo Sandoval C SFO bjclinton0
13.05 Willy Taveras OF CIN bjclinton0
14.05 Ryan Dempster SP CHC bjclinton0
15.05 Randy Johnson SP SFO bjclinton0
16.05 Rick Ankiel UTL STL bjclinton0
17.05 Adam LaRoche UTL PIT bjclinton0
18.05 John Smoltz SP BOS bjclinton0
19.05 Jason Giambi UTL OAK bjclinton0
20.05 Brandon Morrow SP SEA bjclinton0

Pancho

1.06 Cole Hamels SP PHI Pancho Villa
2.06 Roy Oswalt SP HOU Pancho Villa
3.06 Jon Lester SP BOS Pancho Villa
4.06 Joakim Soria RP KAN Pancho Villa
5.06 Justin Morneau 1B MIN Pancho Villa
6.06 Rafael Furcal SS LAD Pancho Villa
7.06 Jorge Cantu 3B FLA Pancho Villa
8.05 Corey Hart OF MIL Pancho Villa bjclinton0
9.05 Raul Ibanez OF PHI Pancho Villa bjclinton0
10.06 Chad Qualls RP ARI Pancho Villa
11.06 Vernon Wells OF TOR Pancho Villa
12.06 Mark DeRosa 2B CLE Pancho Villa
13.06 Denard Span OF MIN Pancho Villa
14.06 Armando Galarraga SP DET Pancho Villa
15.06 Chris Carpenter SP STL Pancho Villa
16.06 Rickie Weeks 2B MIL Pancho Villa
17.06 Chris Ray RP BAL Pancho Villa
18.06 Michael Bourn OF HOU Pancho Villa
19.06 Edgar Renteria SS SFO Pancho Villa
20.06 Chris Snyder C ARI Pancho Villa
21.06 Jose Guillen OF KAN Pancho Villa

Perm Dude

1.07 Aubrey Huff 1B BAL PermDude
2.07 Joe Nathan RP MIN PermDude
3.07 Ryan Ludwick OF STL PermDude
4.07 Victor Martinez C CLE PermDude
5.07 Manny Ramirez OF LAD PermDude
6.07 Fausto Carmona SP CLE PermDude
7.07 Daisuke Matsuzaka SP BOS PermDude
8.07 Chris Davis 3B TEX PermDude
10.07 Chien-Ming Wang SP NYY PermDude
11.07 Jose Lopez 2B SEA PermDude
12.07 Orlando Cabrera SS OAK PermDude
13.07 Mark Buehrle SP CWS PermDude
13.10 Randy Winn OF SFO PermDude nerveclinic
14.07 Shin-Soo Choo OF CLE PermDude
15.07 Jorge Posada C NYY PermDude
16.07 Mike Cameron OF MIL PermDude
17.07 Kazuo Matsui 2B HOU PermDude
18.07 Cristian Guzman SS WAS PermDude
19.07 Chris Dickerson OF CIN PermDude
20.07 Bronson Arroyo SP CIN PermDude
21.07 Bill Hall OF MIL PermDude

coldwater

1.08 Alex Rodriguez 3B NYY coldwater coyotes
2.08 Alex Rios OF TOR coldwater coyotes
3.08 Chase Utley 2B PHI coldwater coyotes
4.08 Erik Bedard SP SEA coldwater coyotes
5.08 Felix Hernandez SP SEA coldwater coyotes
6.08 John Lackey SP LAA coldwater coyotes
7.08 Jayson Werth OF PHI coldwater coyotes
8.08 Troy Tulowitzki SS COL coldwater coyotes
9.08 Joba Chamberlain RP NYY coldwater coyotes
10.08 Frank Francisco RP TEX coldwater coyotes
12.08 Chris Young OF ARI coldwater coyotes
13.08 Conor Jackson 1B ARI coldwater coyotes
14.08 George Sherrill RP BAL coldwater coyotes
15.08 Adam Jones OF BAL coldwater coyotes
16.08 Chris Iannetta C COL coldwater coyotes
16.10 Edwin Encarnacion 3B CIN coldwater coyotes nerveclinic
17.08 J.J. Putz RP NYM coldwater coyotes
18.08 Hong-Chih Kuo RP LAD coldwater coyotes
19.08 Fred Lewis OF SFO coldwater coyotes
20.08 Kelvim Escobar SP LAA coldwater coyotes
21.08 Kendry Morales 1B LAA coldwater coyotes

Seattle Zen

1.09 Matt Holliday OF OAK Seattle Zen
2.09 Ryan Howard 1B PHI Seattle Zen
3.09 Carlos Lee OF HOU Seattle Zen
4.09 Hanley Ramirez SS FLA Seattle Zen
5.09 Justin Upton OF ARI Seattle Zen
6.09 Jake Peavy SP SDG Seattle Zen
7.09 James Shields SP TAM Seattle Zen
8.09 Garrett Atkins 3B COL Seattle Zen
9.09 Francisco Cordero RP CIN Seattle Zen
10.03 Rich Harden SP CHC Seattle Zen Action Figure
10.09 Torii Hunter OF LAA Seattle Zen
11.09 Brian Wilson RP SFO Seattle Zen
12.09 A.J. Burnett SP NYY Seattle Zen
13.09 Kelly Johnson OF ATL Seattle Zen
14.09 Ted Lilly SP CHC Seattle Zen
15.09 Bengie Molina C SFO Seattle Zen
16.09 Jim Thome UTL CWS Seattle Zen
16.11 Milton Bradley OF CHC Seattle Zen Myboyjack
19.09 Kevin Kouzmanoff 3B SDG Seattle Zen
20.09 Damaso Marte RP NYY Seattle Zen
21.11 Jody Gerut OF SDG Seattle Zen Myboyjack

nerveclinic

1.10 Lance Berkman 1B HOU nerveclinic
2.10 Nick Markakis OF BAL nerveclinic
3.10 Alexei Ramirez 2B CWS nerveclinic
4.10 Jimmy Rollins SS PHI nerveclinic
5.10 Jacoby Ellsbury OF BOS nerveclinic
6.10 Carlos Quentin OF CWS nerveclinic
7.10 Kevin Youkilis 3B BOS nerveclinic
8.10 Robinson Cano UTL NYY nerveclinic
9.07 Zack Greinke SP KAN nerveclinic PermDude
9.10 Bobby Jenks RP CWS nerveclinic
10.10 Yovani Gallardo SP MIL nerveclinic
11.08 Lastings Milledge OF WAS nerveclinic coldwater coyotes
11.10 Matt Garza SP TAM nerveclinic
12.10 Justin Verlander SP DET nerveclinic
14.10 Chris Perez RP STL nerveclinic
15.10 Josh Johnson SP FLA nerveclinic
17.10 Mark Reynolds 3B ARI nerveclinic
18.10 Tommy Hanson SP ATL nerveclinic
19.10 Mike Napoli C LAA nerveclinic
20.10 Juan Rivera OF LAA nerveclinic
21.10 Cameron Maybin OF FLA nerveclinic

Myboyjack

1.11 Miguel Cabrera 1B DET Myboyjack
2.11 Josh Hamilton OF TEX Myboyjack
3.11 Derek Jeter SS NYY Myboyjack
4.11 Ian Kinsler 2B TEX Myboyjack
5.11 Brandon Webb SP ARI Myboyjack
6.11 Jason Bay OF BOS Myboyjack
7.11 Jay Bruce OF CIN Myboyjack
8.11 Kerry Wood RP CLE Myboyjack
9.11 Joey Devine RP OAK Myboyjack
10.11 Edinson Volquez SP CIN Myboyjack
11.11 Alex Gordon 3B KAN Myboyjack
12.11 Jason Motte RP STL Myboyjack
13.11 David DeJesus OF KAN Myboyjack
14.11 Aaron Harang SP CIN Myboyjack
15.11 Jeff Francoeur OF ATL Myboyjack
17.09 Jeremy Hermida OF FLA Myboyjack Seattle Zen
17.11 Grant Balfour RP TAM Myboyjack
18.09 Jair Jurrjens SP ATL Myboyjack Seattle Zen
18.11 Kevin Gregg RP CHC Myboyjack
19.11 Ramon Hernandez C CIN Myboyjack
20.11 Josh Anderson OF ATL Myboyjack

Taxman

1.12 Matt Kemp OF LAD Taxman
2.12 David Ortiz 1B BOS Taxman
3.12 Brian Roberts 2B BAL Taxman
4.12 Grady Sizemore OF CLE Taxman
5.12 Chad Billingsley SP LAD Taxman
6.12 Roy Halladay SP TOR Taxman
7.12 Ervin Santana SP LAA Taxman
8.12 Brad Lidge RP PHI Taxman
9.12 Andre Ethier OF LAD Taxman
10.12 Ryan Doumit C PIT Taxman
11.12 Carlos Guillen 3B DET Taxman
12.12 Mike Jacobs UTL KAN Taxman
13.12 Jason Bartlett SS TAM Taxman
14.12 Brett Myers SP PHI Taxman
15.12 Dan Wheeler RP TAM Taxman
16.12 Jered Weaver SP LAA Taxman
17.12 Manny Parra SP MIL Taxman
18.12 Andy Sonnanstine SP TAM Taxman
19.12 Matt Thornton RP CWS Taxman
20.12 Adam Lind OF TOR Taxman
21.12 David Murphy OF TEX Taxman

Tree

1.13 Albert Pujols 1B STL Tree
2.13 Jose Reyes SS NYM Tree
3.13 Mark Teixeira 1B NYY Tree
4.13 David Wright 3B NYM Tree
5.13 Tim Lincecum SP SFO Tree
6.13 Jonathan Papelbon RP BOS Tree
7.13 Francisco Rodriguez RP NYM Tree
8.13 Adam Dunn OF WAS Tree
9.13 Jermaine Dye OF CWS Tree
10.13 Ricky Nolasco SP FLA Tree
11.13 Johnny Damon OF NYY Tree
12.13 Adam Wainwright SP STL Tree
13.13 Howie Kendrick 2B LAA Tree
14.13 Hank Blalock 3B TEX Tree
15.13 Ubaldo Jimenez SP COL Tree
16.13 Xavier Nady OF NYY Tree
17.13 Johnny Cueto SP CIN Tree
18.13 Carlos Gomez OF MIN Tree
19.13 Jose Arredondo RP LAA Tree
20.13 Jonathan Sanchez SP SFO Tree
21.13 Kevin Frandsen 2B SFO Tree

biliruben

1.14 Vladimir Guerrero OF LAA biliruben
2.14 Ryan Braun OF MIL biliruben
3.14 Carl Crawford OF TAM biliruben
4.14 Prince Fielder 1B MIL biliruben
5.14 Russell Martin C LAD biliruben
6.14 Johan Santana SP NYM biliruben
7.14 Brandon Phillips 2B CIN biliruben
9.14 Derrek Lee 1B CHC biliruben
10.14 Jhonny Peralta SS CLE biliruben
11.02 Max Scherzer SP ARI biliruben C1-NRB
11.14 Adrian Beltre 3B SEA biliruben
12.14 Joel Hanrahan RP WAS biliruben
13.14 Elijah Dukes OF WAS biliruben
14.14 Brandon Lyon RP DET biliruben
15.14 Ryan Franklin RP STL biliruben
16.14 Pedro Martinez SP NYM biliruben
17.14 Gary Sheffield OF DET biliruben
18.14 Fernando Rodney RP DET biliruben
19.14 Oliver Perez SP NYM biliruben
20.14 Nick Swisher 1B NYY biliruben
21.14 Reid Brignac UTL TAM biliruben

466

Seattle Zen
ID: 402241610
Mon, Mar 16, 2009, 16:06

Just got off the phone with AF, he will be picking shortly.

467

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Mon, Mar 16, 2009, 16:25

I am headed to bed and will make my prospect pick when I wake up about midnight EST.

469

Taxman
ID: 3985420
Mon, Mar 16, 2009, 18:36

Standing Trade Offer:

If my target prospect is available when it is your turn to pick...I will trade my 2010 3rd for your 5th and a swap of 1st round prospect choices.

no response to e-mail sent C1

offer now to Boldy, B7 then Pancho

470

PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Mon, Mar 16, 2009, 19:28

Damn B, I was hoping that he would fall a round.

471

Seattle Zen
ID: 402241610
Mon, Mar 16, 2009, 19:38

No way, Punk. If you knew about him, you really should have taken him. I'm so pissed off at Baldwin, that's the last time I give you a heads up!

Let's talk trade, Baldy.

472

Building 7
ID: 70243116
Mon, Mar 16, 2009, 19:58

What's with this trade offer Tax. Is your guy still out there? Do you mean 3rd for 5th in the regular draft? Let me know. I'm up.

473

biliruben
Leader
ID: 589301110
Mon, Mar 16, 2009, 20:33

You enjoy that pitcher, Baldy. I'll let you know the secret of my success in this league after the prospect draft. ;)

474

C1-NRB
ID: 31050820
Mon, Mar 16, 2009, 20:59

Taxman-I hope I dodn't miss out on the deal of the century.

My home computer refuses to allow me to access my gmail account and I'm out of the office all week this week. (Don't judge me or act like I'm the only person in the world who looks at this type of thing during their "down time.")

475

Building 7
ID: 70243116
Mon, Mar 16, 2009, 21:15

I don't want to hold things up, so I'm picking. If I pick Taxman's guy , we can still work out a trade if we want.

476

Taxman
ID: 3985420
Mon, Mar 16, 2009, 21:18

B-7 yes in the regular draft and yes my guy is available is available. Say yes to this extaordinary opportunity.

?????

sorry about computer glitch C-1 there is mucho time for you to screw me in the future.

477

C1-NRB
ID: 31050820
Mon, Mar 16, 2009, 21:24

I'll make a note of it.

478

Taxman
ID: 3985420
Mon, Mar 16, 2009, 21:42

sh!t...II keep getting wk p/c's at home...made me miss posting re-offer before BS even drafted

479

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Tue, Mar 17, 2009, 00:05

Punk why would he fall a round he's been the most hyped prospect the last couple weeks?

480

PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Tue, Mar 17, 2009, 00:13

Ya never know

481

biliruben
Leader
ID: 589301110
Tue, Mar 17, 2009, 03:19

Carl Crawford, David Wright, Prince Fielder, Mark Teixeira, Ian Kinsler, Ryan Braun.

Comparing this list of former bili basher farm hands to my current keepers, I think maybe I should trade less.

482

Baldwin
ID: 10258919
Tue, Mar 17, 2009, 07:56

Punk

You already drafted too well in the regular draft. Bout time you passed on someone I wanted.

483

Baldwin
ID: 10258919
Tue, Mar 17, 2009, 08:25

Check your yahoo e-mail SZ.

That wild trade-a-holic Boldwin, with a another crazy trade offer, dangling the Strasburg.

484

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Tue, Mar 17, 2009, 09:56

I have to go out for about 2 hours. I will draft when I return if Zen is done.

485

Tree
ID: 61411921
Tue, Mar 17, 2009, 10:43

btw...i wont be able to pick until about 3 pm east coast time if i come up. ran to my apartment this morning to do some work, and of course, left all my baseball stuff at the girlfriend's...oops...sorry...

487

Taxman
ID: 3985420
Tue, Mar 17, 2009, 11:29

PD...shouldn't the settings at Yahoo reflect NONE on "No Cut List". I believe you have selected to use Yahoo "No Cut List", which imposes outside forces on the poli league.

488

Taxman
ID: 3985420
Tue, Mar 17, 2009, 11:55

Pancho...I e-mailed you a trade offer yesterday...but your server kicked my e-mail, because:

:
65.54.245.72 does not like recipient.

can this be fixed...or can you provide me with a phone/cell number??

489

Seattle Zen
ID: 36255179
Tue, Mar 17, 2009, 12:11

I had to take Gordon Beckham simply to counter the possibility that by taking Tim Beckham last year, I could be haunted by the old, "you took the wrong Beckham" curse. Snipped that in the bud.

Baldwin - Even if you came to visit me accompanied by two Gumbas with bats would I agree to that preposterous "trade" offer.

There's a reason you have made about three trades in seven years.

490

biliruben
ID: 461142511
Tue, Mar 17, 2009, 12:17

Are you sure you don't want to take Tim's younger Jeremy instead? You might be making a big mistake!

Or a pitcher? I nice, injury-prone pitcher? With 100 mph heat and a shoulder made of Play-Dough?

Or anyone besides Gordon?

491

Seattle Zen
ID: 36255179
Tue, Mar 17, 2009, 12:23

Get Strasburg and his Play Dough arm out of Baldwin and Gordon is yours.

492

biliruben
ID: 461142511
Tue, Mar 17, 2009, 12:29

Lessee... who's my oldest player....

Ah! Think he'll take Pedro for him?

Wait! Perfect! Sheffield.

493

biliruben
ID: 461142511
Tue, Mar 17, 2009, 14:40

Crapity crap. I should have known Smoak wouldn't fall. Dangit, Tax.

Picking 14th sucks.

494

Taxman
ID: 3985420
Tue, Mar 17, 2009, 14:42

OK..so I tried to give draft picks away and failing to do so, target dropped to me anyway. IMHO, Smoak will be Teixeira reincarnated. We'll see.

My given first name being Donovan, I graciously accept the league's St Paddy's day gift.

495

biliruben
ID: 461142511
Tue, Mar 17, 2009, 15:05

Tree - Nerve already has that prospect.

Pick again.

496

biliruben
ID: 461142511
Tue, Mar 17, 2009, 15:12

Or is he? Didn't Nerve need to drop him because he was holding onto Maybin for promotion?

If so, that's unfair to anyone who picked prior to Tree's pick, who might have considered him.

497

C1-NRB
ID: 31050820
Tue, Mar 17, 2009, 15:17

Crapity crap. I should have known Smoak wouldn't fall.

And here I was hoping he'd make it back to the second round.

498

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Tue, Mar 17, 2009, 15:17

I definitely had to drop him, it was all over the draft thread. I didn't notice that PD had included him on the list and was actually trying to decide between McCutchen and Anderson (who I took) for my pick.

499

biliruben
ID: 461142511
Tue, Mar 17, 2009, 15:21

Okay. I'll move on then. I guess it's user beware on the draft list, and such is life.

Now that my actual hitter is gone, it's time to choose between toolsy guy and homer pick.

Toolsy guy or homer pick.

Toolsy guy or homer pick.

Already have a toolsy guy.

Homer pick it is.

500

Tree
ID: 61411921
Tue, Mar 17, 2009, 15:23

yea. it was discussed in a couple threads. i'm surprised he fell to me.

501

biliruben
ID: 461142511
Tue, Mar 17, 2009, 15:23

I'm not.

I assumed, as I'm sure others did, he was already taken.

502

Tree
ID: 61411921
Tue, Mar 17, 2009, 15:24

from the draft thread:

I'll let others hurl indignities at Tree, if there is any hurling due.

here's one for ya bili -

with all the grief about ME picking somebody on the list, you just picked a guy who was drafted earlier this round.

nice job.

pick again. :oD

503

biliruben
ID: 461142511
Tue, Mar 17, 2009, 15:25

Dangit!

Toolsy guy it is.

504

Baldwin
ID: 10258919
Tue, Mar 17, 2009, 15:35

SZ

Funny, it always seems to me that you overstimate the likelihood of a prospect actually living up to the hype, and underestimate the production of anyone older than 27. That said, Hanley is only a few short years away from useless by your formula...heh.

505

Baldwin
ID: 10258919
Tue, Mar 17, 2009, 15:40

You just be sure to tell me when you feel he is about to fall off the table.

506

Taxman
ID: 3985420
Tue, Mar 17, 2009, 15:42

bili..you will make me feel silly...if Schafer works out. I chose to drop him from my prospect keeper list due to lack of tools.

507

Seattle Zen
ID: 36255179
Tue, Mar 17, 2009, 15:44

I'll send you a holographic e-mail in 2020, Baldy. You'll have to wait for your wife to get off the computer to see it, though :)

508

Seattle Zen
ID: 36255179
Tue, Mar 17, 2009, 15:46

If I had known your offer was still on the table, Tax, I probably would have taken you up on it.

Nerve, did you have designs on Gordon Beckham, or would you have taken Anderson anyway?

I probably would have still landed Gordon had I made the trade, damn.

509

Biliruben
ID: 52052916
Tue, Mar 17, 2009, 16:02

heh. Shows what I know tax. 4th choice and least researched.

510

Biliruben
ID: 52052916
Tue, Mar 17, 2009, 16:02

heh. Shows what I know tax. 4th choice and least researched.

511

Baldwin
ID: 10258919
Tue, Mar 17, 2009, 17:04

You'll keep him till he's 37, eh? We'll see who has the oldest average keeper list then, heh. 8]

512

Baldwin
ID: 10258919
Tue, Mar 17, 2009, 17:10

Advertising agency creative staffs are prolly drooling at the thot of what they can do with the name Justin Smoak.

"Git yer tickets ta Ranger's Ballpark in Arlington, whar it's Smoa...kin."

513

Taxman
ID: 3985420
Tue, Mar 17, 2009, 18:01

"Git yer tickets ta Ranger's Ballpark in Arlington, whar it's still not legal to be Just Smoa...kin your home grown."

514

Perm Dude
ID: 192191712
Tue, Mar 17, 2009, 19:23

tree: Did you receive my trade offer?

515

Tree
ID: 61411921
Tue, Mar 17, 2009, 19:31

um. i don't think so PD. send again?

516

Baldwin
ID: 10258919
Tue, Mar 17, 2009, 21:32

Punk does it to me again.

517

Action Figures
ID: 52122817
Tue, Mar 17, 2009, 21:49

Call me on either one of the two numbers I left on the Yahoo league page when I'm up.

518

PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Tue, Mar 17, 2009, 21:58

How you like them apples.

519

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Wed, Mar 18, 2009, 00:48

Tax
ID: 3985420
Tue, Mar 17, 2009, 18:01 "Git yer tickets ta Ranger's Ballpark in Arlington, whar it's still not legal to be Just Smoa...kin your home grown."

Tax stick with accounting...

520

Seattle Zen
ID: 36255179
Wed, Mar 18, 2009, 01:17

These damn internets seem to have educated the masses about who the high quality prospects are. I was accustomed to watching y'all pick clown after clown, now there are no secrets.

Damn, who extended invitations to these smart people?

521

Seattle Zen
ID: 54258180
Wed, Mar 18, 2009, 02:58

For instance, just look at 2007.

I picked sixth and had my eye on obviously the best young arm on the horizon. Here are the clowns taken before him:

Yovani Gallardo
Matt Kemp
Andrew Miller
Hunter Pence
Evan Longoria

Whatever, guys, how could you pass on Phillip Hughes? Fools!

That anecdote and countless more to come is the reason why we draft on this board, son.

522

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Wed, Mar 18, 2009, 12:59

Got back from the gym. Still had the old prospect thread open. Flipped to a second tab, saw zen had picked.

Looked through my study materials for 20minutes.

Came up with my pick, went to the still open thread. Did the search and saw he was free.

Updated the thread to enter my pick and low and behold Zen had just inked him. Had to go back to the drawing board.

523

Tree
ID: 61411921
Wed, Mar 18, 2009, 13:11

well crap. my entire queue wiped out in the last 3 picks. lol

524

biliruben
ID: 461142511
Wed, Mar 18, 2009, 14:23

I'm outta here in a couple of minutes. My guess is it will take Tree a couple of hours to ponder, flip coins, call his wrestling buds and talk it over.

I'll check in at 1:30 pst, if not sooner.

525

Action Figures
ID: 52122817
Wed, Mar 18, 2009, 16:25

Who's up? Me?

526

Perm Dude
ID: 192191712
Wed, Mar 18, 2009, 17:11

Last picks:

Round 3:

C1
Action Figures
Pancho
Perm Dude
Coldwater Coyotes
nerveclinic
myboyjack
taxman
tree

Round 4:

Pancho
Coldwater Coyotes

527

Baldwin
ID: 10258919
Wed, Mar 18, 2009, 19:28

Commish ruling:

At this late date could I drop Antonelli from my prospect keepers and pick another? Not a big deal. Prolly not, no harm askin.

528

Tree
ID: 61411921
Wed, Mar 18, 2009, 19:58

you already named him a keeper. you can't drop a keeper in mid-draft.

529

Perm Dude
ID: 17271821
Wed, Mar 18, 2009, 23:07

Yup. I don't even know if you can drop a player from your prospect list except through a callup or when prospect keepers are declared.

530

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Thu, Mar 19, 2009, 01:44

PAncho you are up because people in front of you have no more picks.

531

Seattle Zen
ID: 17238190
Thu, Mar 19, 2009, 02:38

Woo Hoo! I'm going to The Dance tomorrow in Portland, getting to see my Dawgs take on Miss St. and the Purdue v. No. Iowa game as well. How did the SEC Conference tourney winner end up a 13 seed? Ugh, I can't bear the thought of witnessing an upset. Bite'em DAWGS!

532

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Thu, Mar 19, 2009, 10:12

Coldwater is up in prospect draft.

533

Perm Dude
ID: 2223197
Thu, Mar 19, 2009, 10:15

He's on the west coast so it might be just a bit. I'll drop him a note.

534

coldwater coyotes
ID: 451159910
Thu, Mar 19, 2009, 10:37

I am up and ready to go to Vegas to win $100,000 at the National
Baseball Championship.

535

Perm Dude
ID: 2223197
Thu, Mar 19, 2009, 10:38

Literally as I'm typing out your address you pick.

Good luck in the tourney.

536

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Thu, Mar 19, 2009, 11:37

I am here and will pick in a few minutes.

537

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Thu, Mar 19, 2009, 11:52

Do I have the option of putting Cameron Maybin back onto my prospect list?

The season hasn't started. There's no advantage I've gained by moving him off and back on again.

I still only kept three prospects.

The only thing it did was give me one less pick in the draft.

Seriously the list is so picked through I would just assume take my two picks and hold maybin onto the list and I can't think of a reason that would be a problem.

The only reason I had to add him at the end of the draft is to free up a slot but if I now chose not to use the slot...

What say King Solomen?

538

Perm Dude
ID: 2223197
Thu, Mar 19, 2009, 11:55

We don't have a callup/send down process for prospects. I think once you use a draft pick for him you've put him on your regular roster and that's that.

539

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Thu, Mar 19, 2009, 11:58

OK fair enough

540

coldwater coyotes
ID: 451159910
Thu, Mar 19, 2009, 13:28

my last pick queue:
carlos santana,cle
kyle blanks sd
mat gamel

541

Perm Dude
ID: 32291914
Thu, Mar 19, 2009, 16:50

Pancho's up, then we can plug in coldwater's pick. Then we're done.

542

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Thu, Mar 19, 2009, 16:53

when ya gonna pull the trigger PD?

543

Perm Dude
ID: 32291914
Thu, Mar 19, 2009, 17:01

As soon as Pancho picks, if I'm at the computer.

544

Baldwin
ID: 10258919
Thu, Mar 19, 2009, 18:21

And they're off, PD.

545

Perm Dude
ID: 32291914
Thu, Mar 19, 2009, 18:23

OK. Looks like I can't change the waiver order until after I start the season, so gimme 15 minutes before you all start with the land grab.

546

Perm Dude
ID: 32291914
Thu, Mar 19, 2009, 18:45

Have at it, fellas. Prospects are listed in the Commish Note (reprinted below). Waiver wire seems fine (reverse order of the draft).

Now prepare to eat some Perm Dude dust.

Prospect keepers:

Punk: Jeff Clement, Travis Snider, Jake McGee, Lars Anderson, Jordan Zimmerman

C1: Shelley Duncan, Brent Lillibridge, Trevor Cahill, Jholys Chacin, Michael Bowden,

Action Figures: Gorkys Hernandez, Kyle Blanks, Carlos Triunfel, Aaron Hicks, Dan Grovatt

Baldwin: Koji Uehara, Matt Antonelli, Matt Wieters, Stephen Strasburg, Brett Gardner

Building 7: Josh Vitters, Jerrod Parker, Jason Heyward, Madison K. Bumgarner, Mike Stanton

Pancho: Blake Beaven, Dayan Viciedo, Logan Morrison, Kyle Gibson, Tyler Matzek

Perm Dude: Taylor Teagarden, Carlos Carrasco, Neftali Feliz, Brett Wallace, Freddie Freeman

Coldwater Coyotes: Jose Tabata, Matt LaPorta, Buster Posey, Jose Ceda, Carlos Santana

Seattle Zen: David Price, Tim Beckham, Brian Matusz, Gordon Beckham, Eric Hosmer

nerveclinic: Colby Rasmus, Mike Moustakas, Brett Anderson, Alcides Escobar, Chris Tillman

myboyjack: Homer Bailey, Jed Lowrie, Yonder Alonso, Ben Revere, Michel Inoa

taxman: Fernando Martinez, Dexter Fowler, Justin Smoak, Bret Cecil, Derek Holland

tree: Nick Adenhart, Rick Porcello, Andrew McCuthen, Jesus Montero, James McDonald

bilirubin: Pedro Alvarez, Angel Villalona, Desmond Jennings, Jordan Schafer, Cale Iorg

547

Taxman
ID: 3985420
Thu, Apr 02, 2009, 12:30

butt

548

Perm Dude
ID: 30335216
Thu, Apr 02, 2009, 18:36

Payment (plus bribe) received from Taxman. Thanks!

549

biliruben
ID: 461142511
Fri, Apr 03, 2009, 13:07

Frack. I forgot the bribe. That seals my fate this season.

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