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| Posted by: rockafellerskank
- [2511552911] Fri, Mar 20, 2009, 14:45
I have never been to Seattle and am looking forward tio a trip this year for a conference which is from 6/14 to 6/17. I will be taking a few days of personal time to arrive 6/11. I have to stay near the conference hotel for that portion (Hyatt near the convention center), but am looking for some ideas of things to do, see and where to stay for the 6/11 to 6/13 portion. FYI -- I will have the gf and a 15 year old daughter (hers) in tow.
Anyone from the great NW who wants to share some ideas with me; it would be much appreciated.
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| | | 2 | Pancho Villa
ID: 352162012
Fri, Mar 20, 2009, 16:08
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Why just marvel at it from a distance?
Paradise Inn at Mt Rainier is not that far a drive from SeaTac.
The mountain wildflowers are in full bloom in June, the fields of purple lupin and Indian paint brush, interweaved between the glaciers and snowfields are a once in a lifetime experience.
Like most everywhere in the NW, though, the weather can suck, even in June.
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| | | 4 | Seattle Zen
ID: 38256219
Sat, Mar 21, 2009, 21:14
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The W Hotel is pretty sheik, my 15 year old oohed and ahhed. It's near the Library, a must stop on any walking tour. I'd recommend the observation deck of the Bank of America tower, the huge, black one overlooking Safeco.
Pike Place Market is a popular tourist attraction. There is a Half-Priced Tickets booth at the entrance that may have tickets for some event or water tour you would want to do. Down at the bottom of the stairs to Alaska Way - another pedestrian tourist destination, there are a few African immigrants who hawk knockoff handbags, my daughter has purchased six of them from these guys - she swears it's her favorite place in Seattle.
I recommend picking up both the Seattle Weekly and The Stranger, free weekly newspapers you find on every corner, to decide on what you would like to do in the evening. They will have a list of "All Ages" shows that you could bring the 15 year old to. There is excellent theater at the Seattle Rep or Initiman Theater. My 15 year old loves the theater. Benaroya Hall is the symphony.
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| | | 5 | rockafellerskank
ID: 2511552911
Tue, May 26, 2009, 18:39
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Thanks for the advice on Paradise Inn. It sounds great to me, but one thought (problem). the GF gets extremely car sick on long windy curvy roads. May I assume that the road to the inn is fairly twisty? If so, we need a more suitable location. We'll be in Seattle plenty, so we still want some "nature" and experience othe rparts of Washington. Still open to ideas.
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| | | 6 | biliruben
Leader
ID: 589301110
Tue, May 26, 2009, 21:01
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Yes, very twisty.
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| | | 7 | nerveclinic
ID: 04202715
Wed, May 27, 2009, 16:20
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The aquarium is worth a trip. Easy to get in and out in 2 hours.
Oh and make sure you eat some wild Salmon. Even if you "think" you don't like Salmon. June is prime season.
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| | | 8 | rockafellerskank
ID: 2511552911
Thu, May 28, 2009, 17:27
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So, the latest is we want to spend 1-2 days outside Seattle. Any good spots in Olympia or Tacoma?
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| | | 9 | biliruben
ID: 461142511
Thu, May 28, 2009, 17:51
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Nope.
I would get outside. Either get over to the Olympic Peninsula (Port Townsend is supposed to be a nice little town, go camping, or go to the coast), out onto the San Juan Islands (I prefer Orcas, but went to Lopez last year and it was beautiful and incredibly relaxing. Friday Harbor is recommended if you need a bit more civilization.), or into the Cascades (camping and hiking is all I have ever done, but there are lodges).
Seattle is nice enough, but the natural surroundings are what make it special. Visit them.
If you are dead-set on visiting another city, I would make it either Vancouver (CAN), or Portland. They are only another hour compared to Olympia, and much nicer cities.
It's freakin' beautiful here right now, BTW. Mountains crystal clear, sun shimmering off the lakes, a hot 70, but not too hot.
Paradise. Can't wait to get out of this office building and bike home.
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| | | 10 | Tosh
Leader
ID: 057721710
Thu, May 28, 2009, 18:09
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Only go to Tacoma or Olympia if you have to. No highlights there.
Re: Salmon - It is "Copper River Salmon" season right now. You'll pay more than regular salmon, but you will not find a tastier piece of fish.
Biliruben - It's starting to get too warm (mid-70s), but I now declare today the official opening day of "Sun Dress Season" for the ladies. Always a great day, especially after the crappiest winter I can remember in awhile. Lot's of pasty white skin showing today!
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| | | 11 | biliruben
ID: 461142511
Thu, May 28, 2009, 18:31
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$30 a lb is a too much, even for fish that melts in your mouth. I'll wait until it drops to the teens.
Sun dresses. True dat. Took a stumble up to Capital Hill for lunch, and there were sights to be seen.
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| | | 12 | Seattle Zen
ID: 554572910
Fri, May 29, 2009, 13:46
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If you want to get out of Seattle for a night or two and not have to drive, I strongly recommend taking the Victoria Clipper up to Victoria.
You catch a high speed ferry downtown and it takes you up to Victoria in a couple of hours. If you buy a package deal with one of the many hotels, there will be a cab waiting for you to take you and your baggage to your hotel. Everything is within walking distance, except the Butchart Gardens, but a bus can take you there.
Victoria is the most British of all North American cities, I can think of no woman who would not love it in June.
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| | | 13 | boikin
ID: 532592112
Fri, May 29, 2009, 14:28
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SZ thanks for link on victoria clipper, i might have to check that out the next time i am in seattle. I assume it is quite pretty on the ride up and down?
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| | | 14 | nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Fri, May 29, 2009, 14:35
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So, the latest is we want to spend 1-2 days outside Seattle. Any good spots in Olympia or Tacoma?
Tacoma?
Dude are you serious.
Yeah I know they named a lame ass car after it but unless you are into trailer parks and paper factories that smell it makes no sense.
Rock
You are visiting one of the best cities in the world. For a couple days?
Keep your pants on. Seattle is plenty.
OK Vancouver is great but not when you have a couple days.
Tacoma? That's like a punch line of a joke.
Sorry, just wanted to be emphatic after having lived in such a great place for 8 years.
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| | | 15 | Great One
ID: 17459269
Fri, May 29, 2009, 15:14
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There really seemed like a lot of homeless in Seattle and Vancouver both in the touristy areas anyway, any thoughts on that from those that have or still do live there? Is it always like that? only where tourists (crowds, money) are? only when it warms up?
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| | | 16 | Seattle Zen
ID: 554572910
Fri, May 29, 2009, 15:18
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paper factories that smell
Hey, they closed the paper mill years ago. No more "Tacoma Aroma".
But, yeah, avoid it.
boikin: yes, it is a beautiful ride, but I must say that the high speed ferry is really, really LOUD, like an airplane. Unlike all of the WA State ferries, which are slow but it's wonderful to stand on the deck and look across the water to the mountains, on the Clipper it's best to view everything from the windows inside.
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| | | 17 | nerveclinic
ID: 64212914
Fri, May 29, 2009, 15:21
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Bili a hot 70, but not too hot.
Smirk
bastard
have to rub it in?
we hit 111 a few days ago. It's 10PM and 93 right now.
In a girlish voice... "it's 70, but not too hot"
maybe you should get your umbrella out bili to protect your delicate skin from the sun?
Nerve
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| | | 18 | blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Fri, May 29, 2009, 15:35
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Ha, Tacoma. I was only there twice. Both times to see he Tacoma Rainiers. Skip it.
One of the reasons for the high homeless population is the weather: it never gets too cold or to hot. In the winter, it gets down into the low 40s, except for this year. In the summer, it'll top out in the 80s, at best. People wear long pants to the "beaches."
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| | | 19 | Great One
ID: 17459269
Fri, May 29, 2009, 16:07
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That sounds like my kind of weather. Those homeless are smart!
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| | | 20 | Biliruben
ID: 52052916
Fri, May 29, 2009, 16:31
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It's gonna touch 80 today.
I'm melting!
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| | | 21 | Perm Dude
ID: 154552311
Fri, May 29, 2009, 16:34
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Yeah--you even got capitalized!
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| | | 22 | nerveclinic
ID: 24462915
Fri, May 29, 2009, 16:46
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There really seemed like a lot of homeless in Seattle and Vancouver both in the touristy areas anyway, any thoughts on that from those that have or still do live there?
Generally mild climate. Never really cold, never really hot.
Liberal mentality that is tolerant of homeless.
Panhandling has a reasonable degree of success.
Even the homeless transfer cities for their career.
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| | | 23 | biliruben
ID: 461142511
Fri, May 29, 2009, 19:11
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It's freakin' expensive to live here.
One major illness or job loss, and you are out in the streets, unless you have a job where you can prepare for the worst and do more than live hand to mouth.
The reality is that most of Americans don't have anything to fall back on when disaster strikes. If they don't have friends and family to support them, they are Nickelsville bound.
Plus, I think we have more than our share of mentally ill.
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| | | 24 | Great One
ID: 17459269
Tue, Jun 09, 2009, 12:15
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When I was there, there were a lot of homeless on that one bus route thats free too. That has to make the daily commuter types annoyed. I'd think they'd almost rather pay a dollar or whatever. I wonder if that being free is more of a negative than a positive for that reason. Is that line always free?
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| | | 25 | biliruben
ID: 461142511
Tue, Jun 09, 2009, 12:21
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All buses downtown are free. As soon as you leave the city core, you have to pay when you get off the bus.
Ride Free Zone.
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| | | 26 | biliruben
ID: 461142511
Tue, Jun 09, 2009, 12:28
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But I agree with you. There are certain routes I avoid for this reason.
Part of the problem is that they banned malt liquor sales and such on the end of town where the homeless services are (Pioneer Square), so they hop on a free bus to get to the other side of town where the cheap booze is. Brilliant. No-rent booze-cruisin'
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| | | 27 | Great One
ID: 17459269
Tue, Jun 09, 2009, 14:21
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Yeah, I saw a couple of "notable" homeless folks down by the Market, and later the same day saw them up at Seattle Center.
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| | | 28 | Great One
ID: 17459269
Tue, Jun 09, 2009, 14:23
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Follow up -- I loved the city, had a lot of fun. My favorite random restaurant was the Icon Grill (sp?)... loved that place. I am sure there are 100 other places just as good or better, but that was a nice "tip of the iceberg" on the cuisine. Like when people are in Charleston, I tell them to try Vickery's.
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| | | 29 | biliruben
ID: 461142511
Tue, Jun 09, 2009, 14:54
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Huh.
I used to live around the corner from what is now the downtown Vickery's. I lived first at an apartment at 21 Archdale and then later at 1 Smith, and used to walk passed that intersection probably twice a day. It was a gas station or something.
The Shem Creek location used be called something else, I think. I remember there were two restaurants there, one that was a fixture for ever (loved their hush puppies), and the other which seemed to change names annually. Not sure which spot Vickery's took.
Man, I gotta go back and visit. Sounds like a lot of changes have taken place.
I was only at the Icon Grill once. Had a fun lunch, but haven't eaten there for dinner. It actually lost it's facade in the last earthquake.
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| | | 30 | Great One
ID: 17459269
Tue, Jun 09, 2009, 15:01
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I lived at 50 Smith in '98 by the little grocery store, then 75 Wentworth over 52.5 Records for like 4 years.
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| | | 31 | biliruben
ID: 461142511
Tue, Jun 09, 2009, 15:27
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Small world.
My Charleston was the Charleston of the early 80s, before the convention center. It was a party town for a teen. When most of your friends were driving at 14, that gave you a lot of freedom to get is serious trouble!
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| | | 32 | Tree
ID: 41371322
Sun, Jul 19, 2009, 22:13
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looks like i'll have a day or two in Seattle myself. my brother in BC decided i needed a vacation, so i'm going up there for a couple days, then he's dragging me to see Phish at the Gorge for a couple nights.
I'll be in Seattle potentially the night of Sunday, August 9 and definitely the night of Monday, August 10.
anyone around then?
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| | | 33 | Razor
ID: 385371019
Sun, Jul 19, 2009, 22:25
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I visited Seattle for the first time last weekend. Cool city, beautiful in the summertime when you can see the mountains. Did Space Needle, Pike's, salmon ladder, etc. Ate at Dahlia Lounge, Tilth, and Shiro's. Love the fish in Seattle. Thought Tilth was maybe the best of the bunch - really cozy atmosphere.
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| | | 34 | Tree
ID: 41371322
Sun, Jul 19, 2009, 22:29
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it's been a few years since i was there. the last time, I had beers with Bili and Zen, and nearly missed my flight because of it....
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| | | 35 | Seattle Zen
ID: 42622201
Mon, Jul 20, 2009, 02:23
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I'll be in Seattle potentially the night of Sunday, August 9 and definitely the night of Monday, August 10.
I'll be here in Longview and my daughter will be visiting, so I can't join you this time, Tree.
Tilth, man, I've never heard of it, oh, it hurts to be away from Seattle. Tell me about it, Razor.
Speaking of visits, I met MITH and his lovely wife on Tuesday in Portland. We were going to go to the zoo, but the Zoo was a ZOO, so we chose the much more mellow Japanese garden and rose garden. Much to my surprise, my own beard was thicker than MITH's. MITH has lost SEVENTY pounds this year, hats off! It was a real pleasure to meet him and add him to my long list of y'all I've seen in person.
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| | | 36 | Mith
ID: 2894309
Mon, Jul 20, 2009, 09:01
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Thanks, SZ, and meeting you and your family was also terrific. Thanks for making the time to hang out with us.
It's always a fun experience, meeting people you've communicated with for years but never before seen face to face. And given how easy it is to casually release insults and overly harsh criticism into the ether, it helps to get an occasional reminder that we are addressing real people here.
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| | | 37 | biliruben
ID: 461142511
Mon, Jul 20, 2009, 14:32
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Glad to hear you had fun, Razor.
Congrats on the weight, MITH! I always knew you were a loser. ;)
Tree - Given my toddler, probably can't escape for an evening, but maybe I can catch you for lunch on Monday, as I work downtown.
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| | | 38 | Tree
ID: 41371322
Wed, Jul 29, 2009, 12:21
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while i still dont know my exact plans, i know i'm staying in Seattle the night of Monday, August 10...possibly the night of the 9th too.
im currently booked at a hotel near Sea-Tac, for the simple reason it'll be easier for me to catch my flight Tuesday afternoon.
is there an easy way to get from Sea-Tac to, well, where in Seattle i might want to spend the day, and where would that place be? lol
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| | | 39 | Great One
ID: 065867
Wed, Jul 29, 2009, 12:33
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There was a bus at the airport that runs right downtown, thats how we got to our hotel. It was only a couple bucks. A local could tell you more, but I never even ride buses and I thought it was pretty easy.
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| | | 40 | blue hen
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ID: 710321114
Wed, Jul 29, 2009, 12:37
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Ah, Seattle. I'll be out there soon enough.
Honestly, Seattle might be your best chance to get a limo ride from the airport to your hotel. The shuttle was 21 bucks (also highly recommended) and the limo was 30 bucks. You have to go out into the parking area for it, but it could be worth it, especially if you have more than one person.
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| | | 41 | biliruben
ID: 461142511
Wed, Jul 29, 2009, 13:11
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There are a couple options I would recommend, and neither is a limo ( geez, bh. The dude's unemployed).
The first is what I used to take before the tyke and carseats:
The 194. Quick, easy, convenient. (The 174 is the local, if you are looking for ho's on pac-highway, and adds 15 minutes, $30 bucks and an STD.)
The second choice is to take Our new Link Light Rail. We have finally entered the 19th century here in Seattle. Pretty much the only use for this train for now is to go from downtown to the airport. And even that isn't fully functional, as the final link the airport won't be up and running until Christmas. There is a shuttle to where is currently ends in Tukwila, however.
The second option is the more of the adventure, but if you ever wanted to see to poorest neighborhoods in Seattle, this is your chance! Its a nice train, for what it does. Not worth 10 billion, however, and I have a transit fetish.
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| | | 42 | Tree
ID: 41371322
Wed, Jul 29, 2009, 13:18
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yea, no limo rides for me. and even if i was employed, it probably goes against a lot of what i believe in, so i don't think i woulda done it anyway.
thanks for the links bili - i'd seen the light rail thing - but it definitely was a big confusing as it's up and running, but, not the part that matters. lol
is downtown where i wanna be? i'm not looking to do much other than wander, see things cheap or free, and eat something "local", that again, is cheap. lol.
keep in mind, i write a food column on take out food in NYC, so if it's off a cart or a truck or some hole in the wall in the back of a mexican grocery store, i'm down with it!
suggestions? (and normally i do go the guidebook route, but for only 1 or 2 nights, not worth it. i will, however, check yelp)
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| | | 43 | biliruben
ID: 461142511
Wed, Jul 29, 2009, 13:35
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Hmmm.. Cheap food. We have a lot of Taco trucks. Most are hard to get to except by car, however. I've eaten at a few, and can vouch for the bus in Burien, which is about 5 minutes from the airport. Delicious. I suppose you could take a cab and expense it. ;)
My guess is there are many cheap places to eat along the new light rail line, but I haven't yet explored any.
Downtown is not particularly cheap, as a general rule. There is Market House Corned Beef near where I work, that has been around for 50 years, sells wholesale, provides quantity, but New Yorkers would be disappointed.
As far as vaguely unique Seattle things go, most are generally not too cheap. We are known for our fish and our Asian food. I prefer the Thai and the Pho. The local burrito chain, Taco Del Mar, as a fish taco some people like. I'm not one of them.
There are a bunch of little shops and stands at Pike Place that can be pretty good. I kinda like the Three Girl's Bakery, for a sandwich.
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| | | 44 | biliruben
ID: 461142511
Wed, Jul 29, 2009, 13:50
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If you are interested in Asian food, get off at the International District Station (both the 194 and the light rail will stop there), and walk up hill, away for the water. There are hundreds of small restaurants - Chinese, Thai, Vietnamese, etc... that have good food. I don't go over that way very often, so I can't give you specific recs.
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| | | 45 | biliruben
ID: 461142511
Thu, Jul 30, 2009, 17:58
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Until yesterday, it had never gotten over 100 degrees in Seattle.
Yesterday, we blew past the record, officially hitting 103, though I heard readings as high as 108 around the sound.
Sweet shot, near where I live:
My guess is, they only programmed it to register 99, and started over at -200 when it went over 100.
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| | | 46 | Tree
ID: 41371322
Thu, Jul 30, 2009, 19:02
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same thing up here in BC, Bili..the last few days have set records...my sister-in-law has never felt anything like it, having been born and raised here.
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| | | 47 | astade
Sustainer
ID: 214361313
Thu, Jul 30, 2009, 23:48
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must be that global warming.
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| | | 48 | visitor
ID: 266151914
Mon, Jul 19, 2010, 15:15
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I'm driving from Seattle to Mt Rainer tomorrow, but need to stay in cell phone range for work. Anyone know if it's likely i can keep a signal (Verizon) all the way?
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| | | 49 | biliruben
ID: 34435239
Mon, Jul 19, 2010, 23:58
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I don't know about Verizon. I would guess yes, but I'm not sure.
I can get AT&T coverage up at Crystal (spur of Rainier), IIRC.
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| | | 50 | Seattle Zen
ID: 10732616
Fri, Jan 28, 2011, 12:56
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Fremont Universe
BBC recommends you check out biliruben and my old neighborhood Fremont.
“De Liberta Quirkas”, meaning ”Freedom to be Peculiar”, is the Fremont neighbourhood motto. This declaration is blazoned on a giant 1950s Cold War-era rocket fuselage, fully equipped with laser lights and a smoke machine, on the corner of N 35th Street and Evanston Ave North. In league with the rocket is the 17-foot hideous-yet-endearing troll under the Aurora Bridge, as is the raucous Summer Solstice Parade in all its stilted, puppet bearing, naked cyclist glory that drums to the beat of its own whacked-out marching band.
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| | | 52 | Pancho Villa
ID: 597172916
Sat, Sep 10, 2011, 11:57
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Seattle area residents and visitors might be interested in my brother Dan's current ventures, Pacific Northwest Underwater Photographic Society, which lists as one of its 4 central goals to share the beauty of our underwater environment with the non-diving public. Dan is the publisher/editor of Pacific Northwest Diver, which focuses on Oregon, Washington and British Columbia.
I post this for several reasons. As some of you may remember, Dan lost his elder son 5 years ago in a tragic and senseless crime, and his diving and underwater photography has become theraputic in moving on with his life. No one knows how they would react to such a tragedy, but rather than immerse himself in bitterness and sorrow, he has found a passion to excel in his retirement.
Perhaps, after perusing Pacific Northwest Diver, one can understand why I find the term "enviroweenie" so insulting. Unless you've dived in Puget Sound waters ranging around 40 degrees burdened with high tech photography equipment, or gone on a shark dive, you have no place calling someone a weenie. Beyond that, the spiritual aspects of exploring beneath the seas, and sharing these experiences, should be obvious to anyone who seriously considers themself a spiritual person. Part of interacting with the environment, be it the seas, forests, rivers, lakes, deserts and prairie, is the interest in preserving and protecting these environs from the onslaught of mankind, and the relentless obsession for economic growth.
We often hear the refrain that our current economic direction will saddle future generations with unmanageable debt, yet few of those leading the refrain seem to mention what kind of planet future generations will inherit with an explosive world population that encroaches into the ever-shrinking areas that haven't been negatively affected by man's footprint. To them, these concerns are met with scorn, derision and immature characterizations of their manhood.
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| | | 53 | Seattle Zen
Leader
ID: 055343019
Sat, Sep 10, 2011, 12:12
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Great post, Pancho. I certainly haven't forgotten your brother's loss.
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| | | 54 | Boldwin
ID: 35615181
Sat, Sep 10, 2011, 13:52
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I spent about half a decade pouring over every photo in Reef & Marine Aquarium Magazine and kept a Philipines reef biotope running for a couple years.
If you marxists hadn't taken over the environmental movement and infused your lack of respect for individual rights into it, you wouldn't have driven off half the population interested in preserving the environment.
But when you go bulldozing over people with your takings, it really isn't about the environment anymore. It's just one more toehold for the power obsessed.
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| | | 55 | sarge33rd
ID: 16881011
Sat, Sep 10, 2011, 14:19
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B...just once...can you respect someone elses opinion and post and NOT turn it into your personal diatribe of bile filled bullsh*t?
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| | | 56 | Boldwin
ID: 35615181
Sat, Sep 10, 2011, 14:27
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He brought me into it when he brought up the term enviroweenie. No, I won't let it rest.
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| | | 57 | sarge33rd
ID: 16881011
Sat, Sep 10, 2011, 14:40
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why am I not surprised?
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| | | 58 | Tree
ID: 41512710
Sat, Sep 10, 2011, 20:54
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PV - i don't believe any of us here have forgotten your family's loss, and that was a great post. it's too bad the bigger meaning of the post is obviously lost on the idiots it's most directed toward.
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| | | 59 | DWetzel
ID: 33337117
Sat, Sep 10, 2011, 21:30
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Pv, sorry (again) for your family's loss. Don't let the fact that Boldwin is a piece of garbage distract from that message.
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| | | 60 | Pancho Villa
ID: 597172916
Fri, Nov 18, 2011, 18:50
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For those interested in what the Marxists and UN lackeys are up to(or down to in this case), here's my brother's November edition of Pacific Northwest Diver
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ID: 432501512
Wed, Jul 03, 2013, 08:33
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To be fair, the LAPD probably would have fired a couple of hundred shots at it and hit is 1 or 2 times before they realized it wasn't a human body.
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| | | 63 | biliruben
ID: 59551120
Wed, Jul 03, 2013, 10:38
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For some reason, those tweets just struck me as can't-stop-giggling-like-a-school-girl (CSGLASR?) funny.
I woke my wife up at 5am because I was just laughing, while not realizing it.
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| | | 65 | Seattle Zen
ID: 3310162612
Tue, Jul 16, 2013, 18:17
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Never call Elma "Seattle", again, Tree. The same distinction as between Paris, France and Paris, Texas.
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| | | 66 | Tree
ID: 6629169
Tue, Jul 16, 2013, 18:23
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which one is which?
Paris, Texas likely has less dog poop in the sidewalks than Paris, France. (well, and less sidewalks too)
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| | | 67 | biliruben
ID: 41431323
Wed, Jul 17, 2013, 02:19
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Nerve goes to Dubai, and Dubai comes to Seattle. Replaced my local soccer store, dangit.
https://www.facebook.com/Dubaiseattle?ref=stream
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| | | 68 | biliruben
ID: 41431323
Wed, Jul 17, 2013, 02:21
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And Zen's hempfest opens up kitty-corner. There goes the neighborhood.
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| | | 69 | biliruben
ID: 21841115
Sat, Jul 27, 2013, 10:41
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All that pot, yet we are apparently the hardest working city.
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| | | 70 | Tree
ID: 246462711
Sat, Jul 27, 2013, 12:46
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the city i work in is #2. the city i live, #3.
weird.
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| | | 71 | biliruben
ID: 41431323
Sun, Jul 28, 2013, 13:01
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Seattle manages to do it with jobs and volunteering. We get decent sleep and don't go crazy on the extra hours.
http://www.movoto.com/blog/top-ten/the-50-hardest-working-cities-in-america/
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| | | 72 | rockafellerskank
ID: 256463120
Wed, Jul 31, 2013, 21:46
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Odd to see a thread started years ago under my handle. Been away from rotoguru.com for years as I gave up fantasy sports. Odd thing happened the past 3-4 years as I became very politically aware of my environment; well not odd, about time. Good to see all the familiar names posting recently. I hope to contribute from time to time....but for now it looks like I have about 10,000 posts to read. I don't suppose any of the lefties/righties have changes sides? That will make it easer to summarize.
As for me, I've moved from mid-right to mid- left after becoming informed and seeking reason, logic, and truth. See you all on the boards.
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| | | 73 | Biliruben
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Wed, Jul 31, 2013, 21:53
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Welcome back, skank. Mid-left? So your a RINO, I see.
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| | | 74 | Rockafellerskank
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Wed, Jul 31, 2013, 22:32
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bili-
Good to be here. Feels like a long-lost home.
Never a (R) member, so can't be anything "in name only" There is no party (or person) that 100% reflects my views so let's consider me Independent with Liberaterian and Green, and Secular leanings. However, I do have certain passions which, I am sure will present themselves as topics arise (or as I rise the topics ).
Anyway... Not a big fan of labels. More a fan of one's convictions and the reason behind the beliefs.
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| | | 75 | Biliruben
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Wed, Jul 31, 2013, 23:26
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Yeah it was a joke. Or commentary on how far right the center has been pulled. Not a fan of labels either. Though I embrace pinko.
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| | | 76 | Seattle Zen
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Thu, Aug 01, 2013, 10:43
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Great to hear, RFS, that reason, logic and truth can still affect people positively. Welcome home.
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| | | 77 | Tree
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Thu, Aug 01, 2013, 11:46
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welcome back RFS.
i was thinking that moving from mid-right to mid- left means that you didn't change at all, just that the far right moved soooooooooooooo far to the right that moderates such as yourself just seem like that moved to the left. :o)
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| | | 79 | mailedfoot
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Thu, Aug 01, 2013, 17:28
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Thank you posting that, Perm Dude...very moving and inspirational
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| | | 80 | Tosh
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Thu, Aug 01, 2013, 17:36
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Seattle also has the most pleasant Summer-time weather.
We just finished July with 0.00 inches of rain, and not a single day over 90 degrees. We went 48 straight days without rain last Summer (we are currently at 35 straight days this year).
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| | | 81 | Biliruben
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Thu, Aug 01, 2013, 17:49
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Shut up, man!
People will move here and traffic will get even worse, if that's possible.
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| | | 82 | Perm Dude
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Thu, Aug 01, 2013, 18:00
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I've got a conference next March that will be in Seattle. Don't know if I'm going yet but I do hope to get out there since I've never been.
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| | | 83 | Biliruben
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Thu, Aug 01, 2013, 18:07
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Mmm, march. Not as good as July, but maybe we can connect and celebrate the grey with a tasty local IPA.
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| | | 84 | Tosh
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Thu, Aug 01, 2013, 18:40
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Bili - 60 days of sun in the Summer. 5 days of sun in the Winter. 300 days of mist the rest of the year. The wimpy folks won't last too long before they move back to where they started.
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