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Subject: Football Preseason 2009

Posted by: Boldwin - [25282121] Thu, Jul 09, 2009, 05:57

I am waiting to hear an offer of draft picks for both Clinton Portis and Terrell Owen.

Tree
ID: 41371322
Thu, Jul 09, 2009, 08:59

i expect this to be a long wait...

Boldwin
ID: 467910
Thu, Jul 09, 2009, 11:08

Really?

Portis isn't better than anyone's fourth best player?

Tree
ID: 41371322
Thu, Jul 09, 2009, 11:46

well, based on how you tend to over-value fantasy players, i think you're probably expecting a higher draft pick than you'd get.

Taxman
ID: 76501119
Mon, Jul 20, 2009, 22:24

Does it bother anyone that we have 10 teams signed up for a 12 team league???:
Skeepers
PanchoCharger
wiggs
Building 7
Sive Oultaghs Whites
Boldwin's Berserkers
Vampirez
Guitars & Tiki Bar
Tax Rules
West Bili CityCats

We need two more managers and a Commish. I did the waivers last year so I claim a pass. Who will step up to be Commish...and who are the other two managers to be?

Tree
ID: 41371322
Tue, Jul 21, 2009, 00:35

i think we're missing Clyde, and PD. is PD not coming back?

Perm Dude
ID: 154552311
Tue, Jul 21, 2009, 00:45

Nope. #184 of this thread.

Tree
ID: 41371322
Tue, Jul 21, 2009, 09:38

for whatever reason, despite this being my favorite league, it's hard to get other owners to step up.

if no one wants to commish, this league may end up folding.. :o/

Pancho Villa
ID: 17618219
Tue, Jul 21, 2009, 10:19

I would volunteer to commish, but I'm very tech illiterate. Possibly a co-commish with someone who is more tech savvy would work.

I'm leaving today for a week of camping on the beach of the Central California coast, so I'll be incommunicado til next week.

In the meantime, we need to find a replacement for PD. Some suggestions:

C1-NRB
RFS
Coldwater Coyotes
DWetzel
Texas Flood
Razor
Holt
Astade
Great One
Toral

Mith
ID: 2894309
Tue, Jul 21, 2009, 11:59

I'm not playing FF this year, but if you don't mind my brief 2 cents, I think you're sabatoging your recruitment efforts by announcing completed trades before you have complete league. If I were looking for a keeper league to join this year, any offseason trades completed while a team is vacant would make me pass right over this one.

biliruben
ID: 461142511
Tue, Jul 21, 2009, 13:07

I emailed Clyde, but no response. I'll get in touch with him in the next day or two and make sure he's in.

Building 7
ID: 471052128
Tue, Jul 21, 2009, 13:40

Mith:...Why don't you get lost. Nobody cares what you think. You're not in this league. As I recall, you abandoned your sorry team last year.

biliruben
ID: 461142511
Tue, Jul 21, 2009, 14:04

Ah MITH. Don't sweat it. I care.

I think, given our minimal level of trading, it's only a minor concern however.

And it's not as if PD couldn't have made some trades before giving up his team, though that might be even more highly suspect!

Boldwin
ID: 376192015
Tue, Jul 21, 2009, 15:04

He abandoned a kick-butt league and caused it to crash. A league with a nationally known expert in it. You would all recognize his column handle immediately.

Dang that hurt, MITH.

Not that MITH's comment wasn't well intended. Kinda late to be getting that picky and we've never had any trouble finding managers. Just let in the conservatives. Right there you got a couple more.

Tree
ID: 41371322
Tue, Jul 21, 2009, 17:03

Just let in the conservatives.

shut up. really. no one has ever been denied admittance to this league because of politics. because they were an obnoxious dick, yes. but never because of politics.

i'm not going to do the research again, but i have previously pointed who was invited into the league, and denied.

speaking of which, PV, we need to add one more person to the list, that being Weykool.

i think we should move this to email, and discuss...

Mith
Dude
ID: 01629107
Tue, Jul 21, 2009, 17:30

Yeesh, B7.

Yeah B I still feel bad about having to step down from that league but taking a step back from fantasy sports was and remains a necessity for now. And I think its a bit unfair to say I caused it to crash. There were 12 other managers who could have taken over and none cared to do so. I worked pretty hard at keeping accurate and extensive records and filling vacancies with quality managers, but all in all I was more often disappointed in it than not. Some of the more tenured managers weren't often competetive and the league was always a bit quiet, lacking for more Seattle Zen/Blue Hen-type trash talkers.

biliruben
ID: 461142511
Tue, Jul 21, 2009, 18:00

Clyde's in. Not sure of his politics, but he's well armed, if that's any consolation.

Boldwin
ID: 376192015
Wed, Jul 22, 2009, 12:45

MITH

I'll agree the 'more tenured' were not quite up to the competition you brought in and couldn't be bothered to even respond as soon as they saw you walk away.

Boldwin
ID: 376192015
Wed, Jul 22, 2009, 12:47

But you were ultimately what made it or broke it. Personal tragedy you didn't have the time anymore, and I am sure that is legitimate.

Mith
ID: 2894309
Wed, Jul 22, 2009, 13:19

My first mistake was trying to make a league that started out largely a casual collection of personal friends with varied interest in and dedication to fantasy baseball into one that was highly competetive and stylized.

astade
Sustainer
ID: 214361313
Fri, Jul 24, 2009, 21:19

I was part of Shelby-villains keeper league, but it dissolved after last year. If you are still looking for another manager, I would be interested in joining another keeper league.

biliruben
ID: 461142511
Tue, Jul 28, 2009, 13:06

We're voting. Check your email.

Boldwin
ID: 376192015
Wed, Jul 29, 2009, 08:43

My vote was correctly predicted by Tree.

Tree
ID: 41371322
Wed, Jul 29, 2009, 11:09

no email from you Baldwin regarding the vote Baldwin.

Please email a response, letting us know your first and second vote, and please, don't vote for the same person twice.

biliruben
ID: 461142511
Wed, Jul 29, 2009, 14:00

There are at least a few options in there that are on the "wrong" end of the political spectrum, Baldwin, and yet somehow manage to have the ability to communicate with civility. ;)

Boldwin
ID: 376192015
Wed, Jul 29, 2009, 14:05

I only have one choice and every other person who gets in before him gets in under my protest.

Perm Dude
ID: 154552311
Wed, Jul 29, 2009, 14:06

Heh. Lovely to watch.

Baldwin wants conservatives to play but doesn't have enough on the ballot, and will protest non-conservatives who get in. Sounds like the current GOP.

Boldwin
ID: 376192015
Wed, Jul 29, 2009, 14:09

He was excluded as far as I remember under SZ's extortion that SZ wouldn't participate if this manager were allowed. Of course SZ won't be playing anyway, but the liberal McCarthyism remains in force. Until that injustice is rectified I will remain adamant.

Tree
ID: 41371322
Wed, Jul 29, 2009, 14:17

ok, so far, 5 owners have voted:
Bili
myself
Tax
Punk
MBJ
Wiggs

Baldwin has chosen to abstain from voting.

owners who have still not voted are:
Clyde
PV
Boikin
B7

I am hoping they'll get their votes in by the end of the week, and I am also hoping Baldwin chooses to participate, because I would like every owner to be involved.

remember - please respond to the email i sent, with your top TWO choices, or send an email to the above address, and PLEASE put "New owner discussion for polifootball" in the subject line so i can keep track of everything.

Come sunday, my internet access might be severely restricted for a week, hence my haste to get this done and get a draft date and location set.

Myboyjack
Dude
ID: 014826271
Wed, Jul 29, 2009, 19:25

Baldwin has voted. Give it a rest. What are you - The SOS of Ohio or something. Let every vote count!!

tree, in BC
ID: 515451613
Wed, Jul 29, 2009, 22:02

two simple things were asked for:
1. the votes EMAILED to me
2. as per Bili's idea, a vote for your first and second choice.

if I'm the only one here dumb enough to be commish, then there are going to be some rules that need to be followed to make it easier for me.

those ones are simple enough, and no one gets any special treatment.

DWetzel
ID: 33337117
Wed, Jul 29, 2009, 22:39

Appreciate the mention by PV, but in case I was by some miracle being considered, I'm abstaining from FF this season.

biliruben
Leader
ID: 589301110
Wed, Jul 29, 2009, 22:43

Dang.

There goes my first choice.

Boldwin
ID: 376192015
Thu, Jul 30, 2009, 03:12

How else did you learn that my four choices were Boxman?

Tree
ID: 41371322
Thu, Jul 30, 2009, 11:48

as per the email, Astade has been offered, and accepted the open position in this league.

I think he'll be a good addition. he's already asked for rules, which i found entertaining, but hopefully someone here who is better than me can provide him with some links? maybe?

Boldwin
ID: 376192015
Thu, Jul 30, 2009, 13:25

he's already asked for rules, which i found entertaining

Ok, now that was funny.

astade
ID: 226363013
Thu, Jul 30, 2009, 14:36

hello world. i'm looking forward to participating in the league. I really enjoyed the last keeper league I was in so I was sad to see it shutdown. Rules and PD's official roster would be helpful... I can dig through the threads later today, but if you guys have links/posts to direct me that would make things easier.

glad i entertained y'all with my request ;)

Perm Dude
ID: 154552311
Thu, Jul 30, 2009, 14:42

astade:

Here you go:

Derek Anderson (Cle - QB)
Hank Baskett (Phi - WR)
Ahmad Bradshaw (NYG - RB)
Reggie Brown (Phi - WR)
Plaxico Burress (NYG - WR)
Reggie Bush (NO - RB)
David Garrard (Jac - QB)
Ryan Grant (GB - RB)
Devery Henderson (NO - WR)
Zach Miller (Oak - TE)
Chansi Stuckey (NYJ - WR)
DeAngelo Williams (Car - RB)
Kellen Winslow (TB - TE)
John Kasay (Car - K)
Ryan Denney (Buf - DL)
Cortland Finnegan (Ten - DB)
Aaron Kampman (GB - DL)
Joey Porter (Mia - DL)
Darrelle Revis (NYJ - DB)
Craig Terrill (Sea - DL)

Boldwin
ID: 376192015
Thu, Jul 30, 2009, 15:11

Where is the link to our ending rosters? Can't find it here or on Yahoo.

Boldwin
ID: 376192015
Thu, Jul 30, 2009, 15:17

And we didn't use kafenatid last year so I can't even access opening rosters.

Boldwin
ID: 376192015
Thu, Jul 30, 2009, 15:25

Guys available like:

Source ADP, mockdraftcentral via rotoworld [albeit not afaik considering PPR or dynasty]

Clinton Portis ADP 16.9
Marques Colston ADP 19.09
Larry Johnson ADP 35.28
Terrell Owens ADP 41.13
Tony Gonzalez ADP 50.93

Any of or all but one available for the low low price of swapping draft positions.

Perm Dude
ID: 154552311
Thu, Jul 30, 2009, 15:30

You can get your previous rosters by clicking on your Yahoo fantasy profile.

Tree
ID: 41371322
Thu, Jul 30, 2009, 15:32

Where is the link to our ending rosters? Can't find it here or on Yahoo.

under your fantasy profile on the main fantasy sports page on yahoo..

Boldwin
ID: 376192015
Thu, Jul 30, 2009, 16:27

Thank you. That is a nice feature.

Taxman
ID: 76501119
Wed, Aug 05, 2009, 19:28

Boldy brings up great point. I want to draft in ON THE CLOCK found @ kafenatid.net

Boldwin
ID: 376192015
Fri, Aug 07, 2009, 16:59

I'd commish again under the proviso that all decisions were consensus and I wouldn't really be making any final decision. Like I really need more slander from this site. Please find someone else in the meantime tho if you can.

Taxman
ID: 76501119
Sun, Aug 09, 2009, 09:00

The truth is never slander

WTC Building 7
ID: 126371618
Sun, Aug 09, 2009, 09:50

I can do the waivers this year if nobody wants to. That's probably more work than Commissioner......... in this league.

Kurt Warner
Houshmandzada

Looks like I have to cut these two. They are both ranked in the top 56, so theoretically they should be better than somebody's keepers. Most interested in draft choice upgrades.

Gibril Wilson
Hobbs
T.McGee

Also have to cut these top DB"s. Make an offer if you're interested.

Welcome to Coach Astade.

Tree
ID: 41371322
Tue, Aug 18, 2009, 08:22

I can do the waivers this year if nobody wants to. That's probably more work than Commissioner......... in this league.

hallelujah!

looks like it's not needed this season!

Use these settings to give everyone in the league a fair chance at picking up players. Sunday - Tuesday means all unowned players will be placed on waivers at 10:00am PT each Sunday with the claim period ending at 11:59pm PT on Tuesday. First game of the week - Tuesday means all unowned players will be placed on waivers at the start of the first game for that week with the claim period ending at 11:59pm PT on Tuesday.

as full disclosure, there are two options. one is sunday to tuesday, the other is from the first game of the week to tuesday. I am setting it for the former. to me that's a no brainer.

we do have three options on how waivers progress - these are them:
* Continual rolling list: waiver claims are processed in waiver priority order and each successful claim moves a manager to the end of the waiver priority list
* Reverse order of standings: waiver claims are processed in reverse order of standings and successful claims do not affect waiver priority list
* Weekly rolling list based on standings: waiver claims are processed in reverse order of standings and each successful claim moves a manager to the end of the waiver priority list

seems to me we've always done the third option, but i wanted to get some sort of consensus from the league on this.

Tree
ID: 41371322
Tue, Aug 18, 2009, 08:24

also -

we can now break things down into divisions.

with 12 teams, i think two 6-team divisions would be fun. any interest from the league in giving that a whirl to see how it works out?

wiggs
Leader
ID: 04991311
Tue, Aug 18, 2009, 09:40

do we have an estimated time for this draft to start? I will be away from aug 23-30 with limited access, and I will be without access from aug 30-sept 4.

Tree
ID: 41371322
Tue, Aug 18, 2009, 10:09

then im thinking we gotta get cracking, and start it while you at least have limited access...

Pancho Villa
ID: 6736189
Tue, Aug 18, 2009, 10:38

I can't think of worse dates for wiggs to be gone.

We need to start by the end of the week.

biliruben
Leader
ID: 589301110
Tue, Aug 18, 2009, 10:39

Sounds good, Tree.

Building 7
ID: 471052128
Tue, Aug 18, 2009, 11:47

For some reason the waivers were done manually. Did yahoo change something so we don't have to do that anymore?

wiggs
Leader
ID: 04991311
Tue, Aug 18, 2009, 11:52

i will be able to pick rather quickly with text, email or phone calls. I did it last year with help from Boldwin- I would just like to get it started sooner then later so we can get some picks in before i have to leave. then i could leave queues too.

boikin
ID: 532592112
Tue, Aug 18, 2009, 12:30

we can now break things down into divisions.

I am up for this idea.

Tree
ID: 41371322
Tue, Aug 18, 2009, 22:50

i think we gotta have keepers named by Friday, and then kick our draft off on saturday...

Boldwin
ID: 457431818
Wed, Aug 19, 2009, 00:25

I hate the idea of divisions as it's just one more avenue for a superior team to lose and an inferior team to sneak ahead. In this case, happen to be in the thinner division.

Football is too flukey as it is.

But I will not make a federal case out of it. Try it once if you must.

Tree
ID: 41371322
Wed, Aug 19, 2009, 10:00

im not married to either idea, and more than content to keep it with one big division this season, as long as we get the rest of the things going.

boikin
ID: 532592112
Wed, Aug 19, 2009, 10:30

I wanted to confirm the keeper rules 4 offensive players and 2 defensive players and you lose spots from the end of the draft?

biliruben
ID: 461142511
Wed, Aug 19, 2009, 12:39

righto on the #. Not sure what you mean by the last bit. You can keep no more nor no less than 4/2. The draft is a fixed length.

boikin
ID: 532592112
Wed, Aug 19, 2009, 15:56

thanks that is what i thought.

biliruben
ID: 461142511
Wed, Aug 19, 2009, 18:33

If anyone wants to help me diversify out of my stable of running backs, I am receptive.

Also:

RB - I have Ray Rice, the #1 with the most talent in Baltimore's crowded stable (if you don't want him, I might have to change my mind),

WR - Lee Evans and Braylon Edwards, two WRs with the talent to be top 5, and last but not least

All World- Leodis Mc-Lovin. No need to say more. Obviously better than any DB you so foolishly are considering keeping. Don't embarrass yourselves. Throw me 3rd rounder and hold your head up with pride with him playing corner for you.

Draft picks or a 2-1 upgrade considered for any and all of my players, even those tentatively listed as keepers.

Tree
ID: 41371322
Wed, Aug 19, 2009, 21:39

looking to move Lance Moore and/or Matt Schaub for a draft pick(s)...

Building 7
ID: 471052128
Thu, Aug 20, 2009, 09:38

There's no linebackers in that yahoo league.

Tree
ID: 41371322
Thu, Aug 20, 2009, 09:49

i guess that requires a quick discussion.

Yahoo has never had LBs before.

so, what do we do.

we have used 3 DLs in the past to compensate for that.

do we go to 1 DL, 2 LB.

or add a slot, for 2 DL, 2 LB.

Building 7
ID: 471052128
Thu, Aug 20, 2009, 10:21

Last year, i think an LB was a DL.

Building 7
ID: 471052128
Thu, Aug 20, 2009, 10:23

2 DB's, 3 DL or LB. If that is possible. That would be the same as last year.

Tree
ID: 41371322
Thu, Aug 20, 2009, 10:37

there is no "DL or LB" option.

they're different this year.

Pancho Villa
ID: 17749207
Thu, Aug 20, 2009, 11:00

Brandon Marshall is available for a draft pick. 206 receptions over the past two years can't be overlooked because of his TO tendencies.

boikin
ID: 532592112
Thu, Aug 20, 2009, 11:07

taking any and all offers for my players and/or picks.

Antonio Bryant (TB - WR)
Chris Chambers (SD - WR)
Chris Cooley (Was - TE)
Jake Delhomme (Car - QB)
Anthony Gonzalez (Ind - WR)
Ahman Green (Hou - RB)
Maurice Jones-Drew (Jac - RB)
Jamal Lewis (Cle - RB)
Billy Miller (NO - TE)
Josh Reed (Buf - WR)
Ben Roethlisberger (Pit - QB)
Michael Turner (Atl - RB)
Bobby Wade (Min - WR)
Jason Elam
Will Blackmon (GB - DB)
Nick Collins (GB - DB)
Thomas Davis (Car - DL)
Chad Greenway (Min - DL)
Freddy Keiaho (Ind - DL)
Quintin Mikell (Phi - DB)

wiggs
Leader
ID: 04991311
Thu, Aug 20, 2009, 11:10

Boikin- Can you email me I would like to offer a trade

Building 7
ID: 471052128
Thu, Aug 20, 2009, 11:19

There is an LB in yahoo. I'm in a league with one. Why can't you have a DL/LB position if you can have a WR/RB position. Change DL to DL/LB

Tree
ID: 41371322
Thu, Aug 20, 2009, 11:36

B7 - what im saying is that there is no flex option for DL/LB in Yahoo. it just doesn't exist.

you can have a complete flex option, but i'm against that because people will basically stock up on LBs.

this is the first year Yahoo has even had an LB position at all - in the past, LBs were considered DLs by Yahoo.

so, i'm proposing 1 DL/2 LB/2 DB.

thoughts?

boikin
ID: 532592112
Thu, Aug 20, 2009, 11:40

email address

wiggs
Leader
ID: 04991311
Thu, Aug 20, 2009, 11:42

wiggs1766 at hotmail dot com

boikin
ID: 532592112
Thu, Aug 20, 2009, 11:46

email sent.

Myboyjack
Dude
ID: 014826271
Thu, Aug 20, 2009, 12:06

D. Bowe, WR, KC is available for an upgraded RB for me.

biliruben
ID: 461142511
Thu, Aug 20, 2009, 13:05

I don't understand what they did with the defense.

I can't even get LBs to show up in the player list. They must have screwed something up. You can't play without LBs!

biliruben
ID: 461142511
Thu, Aug 20, 2009, 13:10

Ah. I see. They restricted the DL = DE and DT only. I can't see the LBs because we don't play them currently.

My preference would be DB, DB, DE, LB, D

Building 7
ID: 43735169
Thu, Aug 20, 2009, 13:28

I see what you're talking about, tree. That messes things up for our league. I suspect most of the DL's on rosters from last year were really LB's.

Some other options are:

DB, DB,D,D,D
DB,DB,LB,LB,D

and tree's

DB,DB,LB,LB,DL

and bili's

DB, DB, LB,DE, D

biliruben
ID: 461142511
Thu, Aug 20, 2009, 13:34

I'd be fine with any of those. I think you are right about the LBs, B7.

I recommend Tree make an executive decision. Right quick, too, so it doesn't mess with keeper decisions.

Tree
ID: 41371322
Thu, Aug 20, 2009, 14:17

i'm going out to take do a photo shoot for a friend in a short while. when i get back this evening, i'll make a decision, but i am definitely leaning toward was i mentioned above.

if there are not strong dissensions to that, that is probably where i am going to go.

Tree
ID: 41371322
Thu, Aug 20, 2009, 19:43

i'm back from modeling, and i'm gonna go with the 2 DB, 2 LB, 1 DL format. i firmly believe that if we had gone with the flex D position bili mentioned, it would have been a LB for every team anyway.

Tree
ID: 41371322
Thu, Aug 20, 2009, 19:44

something else Yahoo has new this year.

IR slots. My guess it's a response to those keeper leaguers who got Brady'd last year.

i have set it at 2 IR slots, but i think it probably oughta be 1.

any thoughts on this??

biliruben
ID: 461142511
Thu, Aug 20, 2009, 19:45

Prolly.

The sack-masters just got a minor bump in value due to scarcity, but probably not much significant impact.

biliruben
ID: 461142511
Thu, Aug 20, 2009, 19:47

IR's fine with me. Again, probably little impact. The odds of an IR being a keeper is incredibly small, I would think.

Boldwin
ID: 207322022
Fri, Aug 21, 2009, 08:04

Clinton Portis ADP 16.9
Marques Colston ADP 19.09

Either one for the low low price of a swap of first round picks.

Tree
ID: 41371322
Fri, Aug 21, 2009, 08:17

Boikin -

above, you listed Maurice Jones-Drew (Jac - RB) as available for trade.

can't trade a player you don't own. you already traded MJD to me.

wiggs
Leader
ID: 04991311
Fri, Aug 21, 2009, 08:35

boldwin- Email me

Building 7
ID: 471052128
Fri, Aug 21, 2009, 09:18

Do we know what the draft order is, or how it works. I would use one IR slot max, if you're going to do that.

boikin
ID: 532592112
Fri, Aug 21, 2009, 09:30

Oh man I totally forgot about that trade. Tree im glad you caught that. I need to change my keepers too.

boikin
ID: 532592112
Fri, Aug 21, 2009, 09:32

Updated list of players:

Antonio Bryant (TB - WR)
Chris Chambers (SD - WR)
Chris Cooley (Was - TE)
Jake Delhomme (Car - QB)
Anthony Gonzalez (Ind - WR)
Ahman Green (Hou - RB)
Kevin Smith (DET - RB)
Jamal Lewis (Cle - RB)
Billy Miller (NO - TE)
Josh Reed (Buf - WR)
Ben Roethlisberger (Pit - QB)
Michael Turner (Atl - RB)
Reggie Wayne (Ind - WR)
Bobby Wade (Min - WR)
Jason Elam
Will Blackmon (GB - DB)
Nick Collins (GB - DB)
Thomas Davis (Car - DL)
Chad Greenway (Min - DL)
Freddy Keiaho (Ind - DL)
Quintin Mikell (Phi - DB)

Boldwin
ID: 297312110
Fri, Aug 21, 2009, 11:31

E-mail sent Wiggs. Let's get creative.

Biliruben on iffyone
ID: 52052916
Fri, Aug 21, 2009, 11:43

...and if that doesn't work, try intelligent design.

After that doesn't work, evolve, and consider mclovin!

Boldwin
ID: 297312110
Fri, Aug 21, 2009, 13:54

This is what happens when a state starts legalizing drugs.

biliruben
ID: 461142511
Fri, Aug 21, 2009, 15:50

Addai for a 2nd rounder.

biliruben
ID: 461142511
Fri, Aug 21, 2009, 15:59

Or Evans or Braylon.

Or even, unbelievably enough, McLovin.

They gotta be able to significantly help someone's keeper list.

Boldwin
ID: 26451820
Fri, Aug 21, 2009, 20:40

Marques Colston, your 3rd for my 4rd.

100

Boldwin
ID: 26451820
Fri, Aug 21, 2009, 21:57

Trade Announcement.

Wiggs gets Portis. Wiggs regular 2nd rounder for Boldwin's regular 3rd rounder.

101

Tree
ID: 41371322
Fri, Aug 21, 2009, 21:58

so, in english, the trade is:

Baldwin trades Portis and his third round draft pick
to Wiggs
for Wiggs' second round draft pick.

right?

102

Boldwin
ID: 26451820
Fri, Aug 21, 2009, 21:59

Yup.

103

Boldwin
ID: 26451820
Fri, Aug 21, 2009, 22:35

Not sure we could afford making Wiggs stronger but no one else would bite.

104

Pancho Villa
ID: 197162016
Fri, Aug 21, 2009, 23:05

Missing keepers from Tree, Punk and Clyde. Then we're good to go.

105

Boldwin
ID: 26451820
Fri, Aug 21, 2009, 23:11

Really? No one needs this guy?

6'4 225

Drew Brees throwing to him in a pass happy offense.

Only 2240 yds and 19 TD's in his first two seasons.

But I understand. You got better uses for a second round pick [6th round really].

106

wiggs
Leader
ID: 04991311
Fri, Aug 21, 2009, 23:13

confirmed

107

Tree
ID: 41371322
Sat, Aug 22, 2009, 00:13

i've got two very strong DLs in Justin Tuck and Mario Williams.

pretty much both ranked in the top 3 in many IDP rankings.

anyone with a quality LB keeper interested in diversifying, since we still gotta play linemen?

108

PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Sat, Aug 22, 2009, 04:07

I'm dealing with work Emergencies the last two days and have to head back there now, I won't be able to list my keepers until this afternoon/evening.

109

Boldwin
ID: 59747224
Sat, Aug 22, 2009, 08:39

Question for MBJ:

Do you really think Cedric Benson will be more valuable a keeper than Marques Colston?

I'm just sayin'.

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Tree
ID: 41371322
Sat, Aug 22, 2009, 09:27

you're not asking the right question Baldwin.

because you're not asking to swap Colston for Benson.

you're asking to swap Colston for Benson and a first or second round pick.

111

Boldwin
ID: 59747224
Sat, Aug 22, 2009, 13:07

I'm from Chicago. I know Cedric. I'm not asking him for much sacrifice. A second/third swap.

112

Boldwin
ID: 26451820
Sat, Aug 22, 2009, 18:34

I forgot, I'm not even askin a 2nd. I am asking a third rounder for a fourth rounder.

C'mon people, Colston is ADP mid second round.

113

Boldwin
ID: 26451820
Sat, Aug 22, 2009, 18:36

Can you imagine the shock among your friends and neighbors when you tell them you actually managed to conclude a trade with Boldwin?

114

astade
Sustainer
ID: 214361313
Sat, Aug 22, 2009, 19:34

Hey guys, looking forward to the draft. When were we going to start? I'm assuming the draft is in reverse order of last year's standings, so that would mean I have first pick. A date & time would be helpful so that way I don't hold up the draft. Lastly, is this a snake draft?

115

Tree
ID: 41371322
Sat, Aug 22, 2009, 19:44

not a snake draft. as it's a keeper league, there's no snake. just a standard draft...

116

astade
Sustainer
ID: 214361313
Sat, Aug 22, 2009, 20:18

Thanks Tree. I'm assuming the draft kick-off is still TBD.

I'm not thrilled about Ahmad Bradshaw as a keeper. I'm looking for a starting RB/WR that you are the fence about keeping. Looking to give up a 2nd/3rd round pick (depending on the player).

117

Boldwin
ID: 26451820
Sat, Aug 22, 2009, 20:29

And you don't like Marques Colston???

118

Pancho Villa
ID: 38740229
Sat, Aug 22, 2009, 20:33

...or Brandon Marshall?

119

Tree
ID: 41371322
Sat, Aug 22, 2009, 20:37

sent you an email Astade..

120

astade
Sustainer
ID: 214361313
Sat, Aug 22, 2009, 21:06

Baldwin/Tree/B7, I responded to all of you.

121

astade
Sustainer
ID: 214361313
Sat, Aug 22, 2009, 22:11

Trade Announcement:

Building 7 gets Ahmad Bradshaw + pick 4.1

Astade gets TJ Houshmandzadeh + pick 4.12.

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Tree
ID: 41371322
Sat, Aug 22, 2009, 22:15

I've got Greg Jennings on the market. Top 5 or 6 WR, 25 years old, no injury history, and a stud QB throwing to him...

123

Building 7
ID: 43735169
Sat, Aug 22, 2009, 22:22

Trade confirmed.

124

Tree
ID: 41371322
Sat, Aug 22, 2009, 22:41

would help if i put my email in the post...

125

Myboyjack
Dude
ID: 014826271
Sat, Aug 22, 2009, 23:54

Sorry if I haven't been following along closely enough, but when does the draft start?

126

Boldwin
ID: 3779235
Sun, Aug 23, 2009, 06:09

As soon as you get over the silly notion of keeping Cedric Benson and trade for Colston.

127

Myboyjack
Dude
ID: 014826271
Sun, Aug 23, 2009, 09:48

about week 6 then?

128

Tree
ID: 41371322
Sun, Aug 23, 2009, 10:14

i know i still have to post my keepers. not sure who else...clyde?

i say we kick this thing off by Tuesday, 9 am eastern...final keepers due tonight by midnight?

129

biliruben
Leader
ID: 589301110
Sun, Aug 23, 2009, 16:16

Clyde's internet is out. I'll get his keepers from him ASAP.

130

astade
Sustainer
ID: 214361313
Mon, Aug 24, 2009, 23:40

Just checking in. I will be ready to pick tomorrow but there may be a delay as I am on the west coast (PST). When everyone gets their keepers in that will help speed up my first pick. Is anyone available via email to pick on my behalf? ... I'm assuming we are using the forum and not Kafenatid? Thanks.

131

Tree
ID: 41371322
Mon, Aug 24, 2009, 23:59

crap...i gotta get my keepers in.

bili did you get my email?

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biliruben
Leader
ID: 589301110
Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 00:43

Yup. Sorry not to get back to you.

No interest. I like the receivers I'm choosing not to keep better. I know he had some nice stats last year. Just don't like him.

133

Building 7
ID: 471052128
Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 09:06

When are we starting the draft? When is the keeper deadline?

134

Tree
ID: 41371322
Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 09:41

i just posted my keepers, and i think we're waiting for Clyde's too.

Bili - any word? we really need to get this thing going...

with Wiggs' upcoming vacation, and my trip back to texas to visit family coming out, we gotta kick the draft off.

135

wiggs
Leader
ID: 04991311
Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 09:53

i am on vacation right now- but i have internet on the cell phone- starting the 30th I will be on a cruise and will not have any internet access at all. I am making arrangements to have someone cover my draft while I am away, but i would like to get started and try to get a couple picks in before I leave.
Thanks
wiggs

136

Tree
ID: 41371322
Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 10:02

i really think if we're diligent, we can crank this thing. i'm going to have some coffee, and start up a draft thread later this morning.

i'm going to post all the keepers in that thread. PLEASE check them carefully because with all the updates and stuff, i want to make sure i have the right ones.

137

biliruben
Leader
ID: 589301110
Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 10:48

I didn't really feel the urgency until you posted yours. I'll text him...

138

biliruben
Leader
ID: 589301110
Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 10:54

He's working on getting a new computer for this weekend, but this week will be a bit of a struggle.

139

Tree
ID: 41371322
Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 11:12

is the second batch you posted, his?

140

Biliruben on iffyone
ID: 52052916
Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 11:28

Yeah. He was obviously hoping to trade a qb ( to pd I think),
but he lost access.

Any last minute offers welcome. I'll pass them on.

141

biliruben
ID: 461142511
Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 11:56

Just a heads-up, if you don't snag one, I might...

142

biliruben
ID: 461142511
Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 12:51

Draft Order

1. Astade
2. Punk
3. Clyde
4. Tree
5. Pancho
6. Boikin
7. TaxMan
8. Bili
9. MBJ
10. Boldwin
11. Wiggs
12. Building 7

143

astade
ID: 226363013
Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 13:51

I'm ready to start once the official draft thread is created by the commish.

144

biliruben
ID: 461142511
Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 13:53

TRADE: Clyde trades Peyton Manning and his first rounder to bili for Stephen Jackson and his 4th rounder.

I've been fleeced.

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Tree
ID: 41371322
Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 14:27

gonna try and get the thread going within the hour..

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