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Subject: Rush Limbaugh - Heart Attack

  Posted by: Boldwin - [26451820] Thu, Dec 31, 2009, 06:33
I don't know yet how late I am in getting to this news but Rush Limbaugh is in a hospital in Hawaii due to a serious heart attack.

On that hangs the fate of the nation.

He could have been more helpful building that farm team. Hopefully he survives long enuff to correct that oversight.

And won't it be fun to see how the new civility demonstrates itself in this thread?

 
1sarge33rd
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      Thu, Dec 31, 2009, 08:50 		Not gonna wish him ill, but I will point out that your comment "On that hangs the fate of the nation.", is 'JUST....a bit over the top'.
 
2Mith
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      Thu, Dec 31, 2009, 09:05 		He'll be fine. The good die young.
 
3Tree
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      Thu, Dec 31, 2009, 09:52 		Won't wish death on him, although saying that the "fate of the nation" hangs on the health of a bigoted drug addict who mocks sick people is certainly overblown.

while he's an important and iconic figure in the world of entertainment and political commentary, when he does pass on, it's not going to bring the United States to extinction.
 
4Boldwin
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      Thu, Dec 31, 2009, 10:27 		MITH

Nice one. 8]

 
5DWetzel
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      Thu, Dec 31, 2009, 10:48 		In an effort to be civil, I'll just go with #1 and #3.
 
6Perm Dude
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      Thu, Dec 31, 2009, 13:30 		Heh. You got a chuckle from me as well, MITH.
 
8Tree
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      Fri, Jan 01, 2010, 17:11 		looks like it wasn't a "serious heart attack" as reported in the first post of this thread.

rather, tests find "nothing wrong"...

i'm gonna chalk it up to either bad gas, or, being full of hot air.
 
9Pancho Villa
      ID: 29118157
      Fri, Jan 01, 2010, 22:53 		This guy is totally divorced from reality.

"I don't think there's one thing wrong with the American healthcare system," Limbaugh said. "I got no special treatment other than what anybody else that would have called 911 and had been brought in with the same kinds of symptoms."


On what does he base this "no special treatment" claim? What if he didn't have any insurance? Would they have really run a battery of tests that found nothing wrong? He's an incredibly rich elitist, as proven by his own words.
 
10Boldwin
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      Sat, Jan 02, 2010, 03:08 		In Russia even to this day hospitals do not have sterile syringes because they decide to cut corners.

Thank you for heading us in that direction. I am glad he has not yet been subjected to that.

 
11Perm Dude
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      Sat, Jan 02, 2010, 04:45 		That's right--more people with insurance means unsterile syringes. Yeesh.
 
12tree on the treo
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      Sat, Jan 02, 2010, 05:55 		re 10 - I have heard many russians like borscht.
 
13bibA
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      Sat, Jan 02, 2010, 09:04 		In Russia even to this day hospitals do not have sterile syringes

Are you sure that it is hospitals that do not have access to sterile syringes? It is my understanding that sterile syringes can be acquired from pharmacies in Russia, so why wouldn't the hospitals get them there? Or from the same sources as the pharmacies?

Maybe you are confused with the problem among drug addicts in Russia. They have little or no access to sterile syringes, or are discouraged from taking steps to acquire them.
 
14Tree
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      Sat, Jan 02, 2010, 09:13 		In Russia even to this day hospitals do not have sterile syringes because they decide to cut corners.

and now that i'm back and my computer and can actually do some *research*, we can see that the above statement in post 10 - aside from being irrelevant - simply isn't true, per the State Department's page on traveling to the Russian Federation.

Most hospitals and clinics in major urban areas have adopted the use of disposable IV supplies, syringes and needles as standard practice; however, travelers to remote areas might consider bringing a supply of sterile, disposable syringes and corresponding IV supplies for eventualities.
 
15Boldwin
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      Sat, Jan 02, 2010, 15:06 		You cannot count on sterile needles in Russian hospitals and that is just a fact as revealed in Tree's link.

That is what you get with central planning. An equal distribution of apalling poverty and human rights abuses.

And once you go down that road to hell in a handbasket you can't get back.

 
16Pancho Villa
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      Sat, Jan 02, 2010, 17:43 		That is what you get with central planning. An equal distribution of apalling poverty and human rights abuses.

Uh, some of us have travelled extensively in Canada, which has a government health plan and little poverty or human rights abuses.

Who do you think you're kidding?

 
17Boldwin
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      Sat, Jan 02, 2010, 17:51 		Canada is not the end state Obama and Ayers and Obama's commie czars are after.
 
18Boldwin
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      Sat, Jan 02, 2010, 17:52 		Altho Canada does represent an equal distribution of inferior medicine.
 
19Pancho Villa
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      Sat, Jan 02, 2010, 18:06 		Altho Canada does represent an equal distribution of inferior medicine.

Myth.
 
20Tree
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      Sat, Jan 02, 2010, 18:08 		In Russia even to this day hospitals do not have sterile syringes because they decide to cut corners.

You cannot count on sterile needles in Russian hospitals and that is just a fact as revealed in Tree's link.

and those are two entirely different statements.

in the former, you are saying, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that Russian hospitals do not have sterile syringes.

in the latter, you are saying you cannot count on sterile needles in Russian hospitals...

there is a world of different in those to sentiments. One is absolute, the other considerably less so.

Altho Canada does represent an equal distribution of inferior medicine.

not from the people i know personally.

one is a professionally wrestler, who needs knee surgery. He's got about a 3-month wait for the surgery, but he's going to get it.

the other is my brother, who wanted LASIK surgery, waited a few months, and then got it.

Currently, if i needed knee surgery (which i don't), or wanted LASIK (which i do), there wouldn't be any wait list for me.

I simply couldn't get either.
 
21Perm Dude
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      Sat, Jan 02, 2010, 18:26 		Now Obama has "commie czars." Yikes! What did Bush have, then? Regular ones? We wouldn't want any "commies" to get into any advisory positions. After all, the neo-cons proved to be just what the country needed...

Altho Canada does represent an equal distribution of inferior medicine How would you measure this? Seriously--what measurement would you use to make this claim? Life expectancy? Costs per patient? Wait times for essential treatments? Infant mortality rates? Seriously--by what measure is this claim made?
 
22Boldwin
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      Sat, Jan 02, 2010, 18:50 		They aren't coming down here for treatment for nothing and when the free market countries all succumb to the globalist/socialists there won't be anywhere to go.
 
23Pancho Villa
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      Sat, Jan 02, 2010, 19:31 		They aren't coming down here for treatment for nothing

How many is "they?" 0.5% is the commomly accepted percentage, so "they" means virtually none.
 
24Perm Dude
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      Sat, Jan 02, 2010, 20:04 		So you base your claim upon the belief that lots of Canadians come down to the US for treatment?

Treatment of what, I wonder. Since you're silent on the point...
 
25Perm Dude
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      Sat, Jan 02, 2010, 20:09 		PV, the numbers are actually much, much lower. And of the tiny number of Canadians coming into the US and having health care done, about 80% were emergency cases.

But is a damn fine story. A fiction upon which to base the projected fiction of socialist medicine in our future.
 
26Boldwin
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      Sat, Jan 02, 2010, 20:09 		Thank's for the unnecessary wild goose chase.

You and everyone on here knows perfectly well they come across the border all the time for services they've already paid for. In fact they've paid for theirs and their neighbors, and then they have to come down here anyway and pay again.

Until you kill off Canada's safety valve and auxilary health system. Then they will be screwed.

 
27Perm Dude
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      Sat, Jan 02, 2010, 20:21 		Actually, we only "know" what the fact say. Anything else is more than a "wild goose chase." It is a bad argument.
 
28Mattinglyinthehall
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      Sat, Jan 02, 2010, 20:24 		everyone on here knows perfectly well they come across the border all the time

What reliance on anecdotes in lieu of empirical statistics gets you.

If the quantity is relevent then asking for figures (and some evidence to suport them) is not any wild goose chase.
 
29Tree
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      Sat, Jan 02, 2010, 20:26 		Thank's (sic) for the unnecessary wild goose chase facts.

fixed.
 
30Perm Dude
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      Sat, Jan 02, 2010, 20:27 		I should add that I've only seen a few studies on the question of Canadians crossing the border for health care, and nearly all say the same things as the link I gave in #25. That is, there are some (just as there are small numbers of Americans going to Canada) but the stories are largely anecdotal.
 
31Boldwin
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      Sat, Jan 02, 2010, 20:28 		about 80% were emergency cases. - PD

Really, no one can figure out why that's so scary?

 
32Boldwin
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      Sat, Jan 02, 2010, 20:31 		Oh, now I've just got to find me one American applying for state run benefits they didn't pay into in Canada. Fire up the Google engine boys.

Maybe they made an exception for Micheal Moore?

 
33Boldwin
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      Sat, Jan 02, 2010, 20:32 		I don't think Canada is quite as hard up for hard currency as Cuba so...
 
34sarge33rd
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      Sat, Jan 02, 2010, 20:36 		I think you need to read the link PD provided above.

I interpret that "80% of those Canadians" to be tourists who for whatever reason; SUDDENLY came under the need for care. (ie, car accident; heart attack, etc etc)
 
35Tree
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      Sat, Jan 02, 2010, 20:49 		Oh, now I've just got to find me one American applying for state run benefits they didn't pay into in Canada.

point being?

 
36Perm Dude
      ID: 5510572522
      Sun, Jan 03, 2010, 10:20 		#34: Exactly. B hasn't actually read the piece, in which the emergency cases were broken down a bit--mostly heart attacks and sudden gastro problems.
 
37Pancho Villa
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      Sun, Jan 03, 2010, 11:05 		Limbaugh states:

"I don't think there's one thing wrong with the American healthcare system."

This is the most influential conservative in the US. Allow me to borrow Baldwin's quote in #31:

Really, no one can figure out why that's so scary?



 
38biliruben
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      Sun, Jan 03, 2010, 19:08 		My sister traveled to Canada for years to get her healthcare, because she couldn't afford insurance in the US.

And Tree and Baldwin shouldn't be responding to each other's posts. Ever.

This thread is rapidly sliding into the sewer.
 
39Boldwin
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      Sun, Jan 03, 2010, 19:46 		Bili...that is a facet I was not aware of. I wonder how Canadian doctors price that compared with the pay Canada sets for them.

[You notice I am not responding]

 
40biliruben
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      Sun, Jan 03, 2010, 19:50 		Well, she was kinda a special case.

She worked as a groom for years in Canada at Fort Erie and another race track, and kept up her residency and renewed her Canadian drivers license (fraudulently, I suppose) in order to continue to be eligible for insurance there.

What lengths people will go to in order to get health care.
 
41Tree
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      Sun, Jan 03, 2010, 21:57 		My sister traveled to Canada for years to get her healthcare, because she couldn't afford insurance in the US.


i was legitimately asking for clarification of the statement. your answer helped.

my brother lives in Canada. he is not a Canadian citizen. he gets the same free health care Canadian citizens do.
 
42Boldwin
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      Tue, Jan 05, 2010, 17:16 		But illegals won't be covered. You can bet yer life. Even says so.
 
43Perm Dude
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      Tue, Jan 05, 2010, 17:18 		Sure. But is she an "illegal?"
 
44Boldwin
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      Tue, Jan 05, 2010, 17:22 		They don't care.
 
45Perm Dude
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      Tue, Jan 05, 2010, 17:52 		But you do--it seems to be a label you are eager to use.
 
46Boldwin
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      Wed, Jan 06, 2010, 05:16 		The law seems to be an issue you'd like to avoid.
 
47Boldwin
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      Wed, Jan 06, 2010, 08:54 		He's back on the radio today.
 
48Boldwin
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      Wed, Jan 06, 2010, 08:54 		I want my product or service on that station today.
 
49Perm Dude
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      Tue, May 25, 2010, 13:44 		It might seem ominous for an intellectual movement to be led by a man who does not think creatively, who does not respect the other side of the argument and who frequently says things that are not intended as truth. But neither Limbaugh nor Chafets is troubled...
 
50Boldwin
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      Wed, Aug 11, 2010, 21:29 		What's stopping his heart these days...



Save your fat jokes for the mirror.
 
51Perm Dude
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      Wed, Aug 11, 2010, 21:44 		good for him. Really.

But people like Limbaugh, Larry King, Elizabeth Taylor, and Newt Gingrich have done far more to destroy the "fabric of marriage" than any two committed homosexuals in this country.
 
52DWetzel
      ID: 33337117
      Wed, Aug 11, 2010, 22:10 		Wow, it's amazing how drug addictions can really take the weight off!

(OK, so it's a cheap shot. If he's worried about it, he can email the moderators.)
 
53Boldwin
      ID: 587221121
      Wed, Aug 11, 2010, 22:23 		You are all welcome to provide your personal wedding photo that tops that one.
 
54DWetzel
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      Wed, Aug 11, 2010, 22:26 		Couldn't afford nearly that much airbrushing, so I won't put you through it.

O/U on the $200 million-ish divorce? I'll put it at 2 1/2 years.
 
55Tree
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      Thu, Aug 12, 2010, 02:26 		i'm sure Donna Newman charges more to photograph a wedding than most people's entire weddings costs, so it better be a good photo.

nice side-stepping of #51 btw. what's this, Limbaugh's fourth marriage?
 
56Boldwin
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      Thu, Aug 12, 2010, 04:18 		than any two committed homosexuals in this country.

I'll put it at 2 1/2 years
 
57nerveclinic
      Leader
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      Thu, Aug 12, 2010, 06:58
Baldwin how many times has Rush been married?

4 times really? He should just convert to Islam so he doesn't have to divorce each time to move onto the younger model.

 
58Tree
      ID: 248472317
      Thu, Aug 12, 2010, 09:42 		than any two committed homosexuals in this country.

I'll put it at 2 1/2 years

well, then you'd be wrong. again.

my friends Tom and Eric have been together for 15 years. Andrea and Julie - 9 years.
 
59Razor
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      Thu, Aug 12, 2010, 09:45 		Live vicariously much, Boldwin?

4 marriages?
 
60nerveclinic
      Leader
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      Thu, Aug 12, 2010, 10:52
Boldwin if this was (insert any liberal) getting married for the xth number of times, wouldn't you be foaming at the mouth about how outrageous it is they've married so many times?

I could care less, not my business, just funny how otherwise conservative piteous apostles completely rewire their moral code when it's one of their own marrying down the food chain. Constantly trading in the lease for a newer model.



 
61The Left Behind
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      Thu, Aug 12, 2010, 11:32 		It's also pretty expensive. I don't recall if Rush harps on people about marriages and divorce. Not a daily listener.

Biliruben: I saw your request in the other thread about more info. Working on it. Busier than a bee right now. Should be a fun discussion.
 
62Boldwin
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      Thu, Aug 12, 2010, 13:00 		I have seen no evidence he initiated any divorce. For all I know he stepped into gold-digger traps, girls who had no willingness to put up with his work schedule and who were outta there as soon as they had punched their ticket.

On the other hand I have not excused Newt.
 
63Boldwin
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      Thu, Aug 12, 2010, 13:02 		How much foaming did I do towards Sarge? Not all that much.
 
64Perm Dude
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      Thu, Aug 12, 2010, 13:11 		Actually, Limbaugh initiated his third divorce. And started dating Daryn Kagan a couple of months before it was finalized.

Nice.
 
65Boldwin
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      Thu, Aug 12, 2010, 14:26 		Same source claims she moved out when he admitted the oxicontin story.

Anyway you aren't going to play the game with me where every conservative has to be the third perfect man ever on the planet and every rapist/murdering/Dem president gets a pass because he never claimed to have principles and so at least he's not a hypocrit.
 
66Perm Dude
      ID: 5510572522
      Thu, Aug 12, 2010, 14:37 		Jeez, you can't even concede a point when it is in black and white.

Read the link. Especially the part which quotes Rush on his radio show, saying " "Marta has consented to my request for a divorce..."

 
67biliruben
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      Thu, Aug 12, 2010, 14:53 		Come on, PD. Both you and I both know they are lifelong
soul mates, and her tightness was as shocked as anybody to
find out she lucked into a millionaire.
 
68Tree
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      Thu, Aug 12, 2010, 15:02 		is her tightness related to the bumper sticker slogan you posted in the other thread?
 
69Khahan
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      Thu, Aug 12, 2010, 15:05 		personal wedding photo that tops that one.

The only top I'm worried about concerning that wedding photo is the top right about the name "donna" in the lower right corner.
 
70biliruben
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      Thu, Aug 12, 2010, 16:45 		I am probably giving rush too hard a time, but blowhards are
not too be looked up to, and nobody should aspire to be a
trophy wife. That they are being held up as a shining
example of marriage shows moral failure at a societal level.
 
71Boldwin
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      Fri, Aug 13, 2010, 05:18 		Sure beats Tree's 'shining examples of "Ted and Al" and "Shirley and Edna".
 
72biliruben
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      Fri, Aug 13, 2010, 08:57 		No, it almost certainly doesn't.
 
73tree on the evo
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      Fri, Aug 13, 2010, 10:21 		If you believe a thrice-divorced,
four times married drug addict is
an example of positive moral
behavior over couples who have
been together for a decade or
more, it offers great insight into
your own character and
morality.....
 
74Frick
      ID: 50730138
      Fri, Aug 13, 2010, 10:27 		Wait Tree. You're saying I shouldn't set Anna Nicole Smith as a role model for my daughters? She lived the American dream. Married the man of her dreams and stayed with him until death separated them.

/sarcasm

The irony that has been pointed out in the last few points is sad.