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Subject: The Real Jon Huntsman

  Posted by: Boldwin - [35615181] Wed, Sep 28, 2011, 11:39
Appearing on CNN’s “Piers Morgan Tonight,” Michael Moore called Huntsman the only Republican candidate “that has sanity operating inside of him.”

When you are a republican and you haven't lost Michael Moore...

I now place this thread into the running for 'shortest thread ever'.
 
1Khahan
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      Wed, Sep 28, 2011, 11:44 		Jon Huntsman campaign page.
 
2Boldwin
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      Sat, Oct 01, 2011, 17:01 		Jon Huntsman's Secret Life As A Progressive

aka the life before he started backtracking and building 'an electable persona' for the primary run.

Because if you, a supposed republican haven't lost 'Think Progress', you sir are in the wrong party.

If we put all the faux republicans the establishment has tried to force down the electorate's throat you could build...Obama, really. Let's add Huntsman's position on AGW and 'Cap-N-Trade'...a pinch of Romneycare...Perry digging tunnels under the border and waving the other three fourths of Mexico thru...[and let's not forget he was to the FLDS as Clinton was to Waco]..
 
3sarge33rd
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      Sat, Oct 01, 2011, 17:55 		Huntsman campaign slogan..."Sorry, I just dont HATE Americans like some of you seem to"
 
4Boldwin
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      Sat, Oct 01, 2011, 18:55 		Hating the political philosophy that murdered 200 million people in the last century is not a character defect. Reviving it is tho.
 
5sarge33rd
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      Sat, Oct 01, 2011, 19:23 		*puke*
 
6Perm Dude
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      Sat, Oct 01, 2011, 21:04 		Jon Huntsman is now Stalin?

Your proclivity toward the party hardline, believing what "your" media tells you without complaint while mocking all media outlets, and acting as though those who step outside the orthodoxy of the current meme of the party has some historical precedent. Hmmm, it's on the tip of my tongue...
 
7Boldwin
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      Sat, Oct 01, 2011, 21:09 		I didn't say he was Stalin. I will say he's either soft towards marxism or easily zoomed by marxists. Bill Ayers and O and their ilk can use him like a tool.
 
8sarge33rd
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      Sat, Oct 01, 2011, 22:02 		vs (or just like??) Beck, Limbaugh, AC and their ilk, using you like a tool.
 
9Pancho Villa
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      Sat, Oct 01, 2011, 22:35 		I will say he's either soft towards marxism or easily zoomed by marxists.

Is your complete and utter disconnection from reality intentional? Your ignorance is stunning.

The Huntsman Corporation, founded by his father, and where he was a top executive before his political career, is a model of capitalism and entrepreneurial spirit, which you claim to care about.
 
10Perm Dude
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      Sat, Oct 01, 2011, 23:54 		C'mon, PV--if there are two things socialists are known for, it is their capitalistic spirit and their willingness to work with their political enemies on common problems.

Oh, and their guilt at the death of 200 million, so I guess that's three things.
 
11Boldwin
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      Sat, Oct 01, 2011, 23:56 		Tell it to Armand Hammer.
 
12Perm Dude
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      Sun, Oct 02, 2011, 00:02 		Why? Because deflection works for you on the far-right websites where critical thinking is limited to sagely nodding at the talking points handed to you?
 
13sarge33rd
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      Sun, Oct 02, 2011, 00:03 		C'mon PD, give him credit. It takes loads of practice, to nod sagely,
 
14Boldwin
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      Sun, Oct 02, 2011, 00:19 		Why? Because the answer to hyena laughter over how a capitalist could possibly be a tool of marxists, is to point at the world's foremost example and prototype.
 
15sarge33rd
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      Sun, Oct 02, 2011, 00:27 		But if he (Huntsman) shed 50 IQ points and spewed venom and vitriol; he'd be running neck and neck with R Perry.
 
16Pancho Villa
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      Sun, Oct 02, 2011, 10:34 		the answer to hyena laughter over how a capitalist could possibly be a tool of marxists, is to point at the world's foremost example and prototype.

Your "answer" only exemplifies the absurdity of your claims, the result being more hyena laughter due to your clownish assessment of history.
The attempt to smear Hunstman by inserting Hammer as a "prototype" is one of the most feeble and irrelevant non-connections that could possibly be made. Beyond that, it's simply personifies the ease in which you use evil as a tool to advance your radical agenda, which can only be called conservative by the most cynical.

Jon Huntsman has been an exemplary public servant in numerous positions for this country. I understand that disagreement with some of his positions is a genuine part of the political process and subject to debate in the national conversation. You've shown no interest in the "Real Jon Huntsman." Your "tool of Marxists" deserves hyena laughter, derision, and, ultimately, condemnation of your illusion that you are a champion of conservatism.
 
17Boldwin
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      Mon, Oct 03, 2011, 04:43 		I am not suggesting he is a conscious co-conspirator as Hammer was, but I have certainly proven that mere involvement in a large business and being wealthy does not preclude being a useful fool for marxism. Indeed politically correct education today has produced a bumper crop.
 
18Pancho Villa
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      Mon, Oct 03, 2011, 09:57 		I have certainly proven that mere involvement in a large business and being wealthy does not preclude being a useful fool for marxism.

So Herman Cain is either soft towards marxism or easily zoomed by marxists. Bill Ayers can use him like a tool.

You're so proud of yourself for proving nothing, except that your politics are despicable, your conservative credentials are a fraud, and that when you've lost Boldwin as a supporter for your Republican presidential candidacy, you're probably the best choice.
 
19Khahan
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      Mon, Oct 03, 2011, 11:57 		If we put all the faux republicans

Oh please be counting yourself among those.
 
20Boldwin
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      Mon, Oct 03, 2011, 23:51 		PV

How do you get the impression I said every wealthy businessman is a marxist tool?

Really you had to create that strawman? Are you that out of bullets?
 
21Pancho Villa
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      Mon, Oct 03, 2011, 23:55 		How do you get the impression I said every wealthy businessman is a marxist tool?


Herman Cain fits the bill just as well as Jon Huntsman. How am I supposed to figure out how your warped delusions are formed.
 
22Boldwin
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      Tue, Oct 04, 2011, 00:09 		Get creative and amuse me with the Cain positions aligned with marxists. Obama loves Huntsman's cap-n-trade inclinations.
 
23Pancho Villa
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      Tue, Oct 04, 2011, 00:32 		Huntsman's cap-n-trade inclinations have zero connection to Marxism. ZERO



Here's Huntsman making incredible sense in a link from your link in #2. And this from a man whose family business is chemicals and plastics. You screaming Marxist is pathetic. Those conservative values are just a slogan.

You accuse me of a strawman. You who posted:

Bill Ayers can use him [Huntsman] like a tool.

I don't need bullets when you're so willing to shoot yourself.



 
24Boldwin
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      Tue, Oct 04, 2011, 10:49 		Cap-n-trade is all about crippling capitalism and America. It is a favorite marxist and globalist idea.
 
25sarge33rd
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      Tue, Oct 04, 2011, 11:47 		and when exactly, did Karl Marx come up with the notion of cap-n-trade? Afterall, to BE Marxist, an idea would have to BE Marx's...yes?
 
26Razor
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      Tue, Oct 04, 2011, 12:01 		Why do you guys spend all day arguing with a guy who is convinced that the Cold War never ended and that Communism is still threatening to take over? This thread should be about Huntsman's positions, not one person's fantastical interpretation of the world.
 
27Boldwin
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      Tue, Oct 04, 2011, 13:16 		Sarge

and when exactly, did Karl Marx come up with the notion of cap-n-trade?

Nope, Marx did not have to have had the specific idea to call it marxist.

You can clog the gears of capitalism with moonboots or nanoparticles or throwing Ipods into the gears and it's still sabotaging capitalism even if Marx didn't specify.
 
28sarge33rd
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      Tue, Oct 04, 2011, 13:50 		so in short B, that which YOU deem to be Marxist, is Marxist. With or w/o any supporting evidence outside of your allegation.

Is that essentially correct?
 
29Boldwin
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      Tue, Oct 04, 2011, 14:52 		A censored world is a boring world.
 
30Khahan
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      Tue, Oct 04, 2011, 15:14 		I'm not sure what censorship has to do with this thread about Jon Huntsman. Nowhere in any of my readings on him has he discussed censorship in any way, shape or form.
 
31Boldwin
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      Tue, Oct 04, 2011, 15:29 		I'm being censored left and right today so you won't understand that.
 
32Tree
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      Tue, Oct 04, 2011, 15:47 		A censored world is a boring world.

in other words, you have nothing, but it's the same old tired "i know more about everything than the rest of you combined" argument where you don't actually prove anything, just claim to be able to prove it, but never do before moving onto the next topic of selective outrage.

I'm being censored left and right today so you won't understand that.

you're a such a victim, you and your Messiah complex.
 
33Boldwin
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      Tue, Oct 04, 2011, 16:09 		I have a Cassandra complex. Get your complexes right.
 
34Khahan
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      Tue, Oct 04, 2011, 16:24 		I don't have a god complex. God has a Khahan complex.
 
35Tree
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      Tue, Oct 04, 2011, 16:30 		I have a Cassandra complex

you have to be accurate to have a Cassandra complex - so far, you'd need to be correct on your next 100 predictions to even begin to approach the Mendoza line.
 
36Boldwin
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      Tue, Oct 04, 2011, 16:34 		We've already established that you are not a complex expert.
 
37Razor
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      Tue, Oct 04, 2011, 16:38 		Huntsman, guys. Not Censorship. Not Boldwin. Not Marxism.
 
38Boldwin
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      Tue, Oct 04, 2011, 16:46 		It's my thread and I'll cry if I want to.

And if Hunstman/Obama get their cap-n-trade we'll all cry at the pump.
 
39Razor
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      Tue, Oct 04, 2011, 16:56 		It's not your thread, it's Dave's, so please talk about Huntsman.
 
40Boldwin
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      Tue, Oct 04, 2011, 17:08 		And if Hunstman/Obama get their cap-n-trade we'll all cry at the pump.
 
43Tree
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      Tue, Oct 04, 2011, 19:07 		i totally see Razor banging his head against the desk now.

here's something that won't win Jon Huntsman any conservative fans - he's praising a potential rival.

Huntsman Praises Christie as GOP ‘Force for Years to Come’
 
44scoobies
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      Tue, Oct 04, 2011, 20:09 		OK, so what's going on with posts being deleted from threads?
 
45Pancho Villa
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      Tue, Oct 04, 2011, 20:45 		Update on Huntsman's energy position
 
46Boldwin
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      Tue, Oct 04, 2011, 23:14 		Someone thinks you'll get the vapors if someone should discuss socialism. Or Newsweek covers.
 
47sarge33rd
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      Wed, Oct 05, 2011, 02:09 		you dont discuss socialism B, you confuse the issue and accuse. No discussion involved.
 
48Boldwin
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      Sun, Jun 24, 2012, 23:39 		Lands job at liberal think tank.

As if this would shock anyone.
 
49sarge33rd
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      Mon, Jun 25, 2012, 12:20 		the truth still eludes you , even though it is spelled out right there in the article:

Joining Brookings is reflective of Huntsman’s refusal to pander to his party’s far right; since he dropped out of the race, he has taken a critical attitude toward the Republican Party for moving so far from the center. [emphasis added]
 
50Perm Dude
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      Mon, Jun 25, 2012, 12:29 		It just means there is no center-right think tank for Huntsman to join.

Not shocking to me, at all. When a political party runs to its fringes, sometimes good party members in the center are left in the dust.
 
51Frick
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      Mon, Jun 25, 2012, 12:50 		RINO Dick Luger disagrees with you.

Wait, nevermind.