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| Posted by: Perm Dude
- [3210201915] Thu, Feb 09, 2012, 21:06
Anyone up for another season? Head count time. |
| | | 1 | Tree
ID: 25119219
Thu, Feb 09, 2012, 21:21
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I'm in.
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| | | 2 | biliruben
ID: 59551120
Fri, Feb 10, 2012, 00:05
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in
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| | | 3 | Boldwin
ID: 49030519
Fri, Feb 10, 2012, 11:07
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Was there really any doubt? I'm in.
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| | | 4 | C1-NRB
ID: 451120913
Fri, Feb 10, 2012, 11:54
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In.
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| | | 5 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Sat, Feb 11, 2012, 09:12
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in to defend the title
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| | | 6 | Tree
ID: 2151118
Sat, Feb 11, 2012, 09:52
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sweet
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| | | 7 | PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Sat, Feb 11, 2012, 12:51
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Pineapples
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| | | 8 | Action Figure
ID: 844259
Mon, Feb 13, 2012, 09:27
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Hadn't really thought about it. I think I'm ghost.
Start looking for someone. =)
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| | | 9 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Mon, Feb 13, 2012, 13:13
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Looks like we are down one.
Thanks AF for being an active member since the league started.
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| | | 10 | Building 7
Leader
ID: 171572711
Mon, Feb 13, 2012, 13:38
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I'm out.
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| | | 11 | Great One
ID: 340592712
Mon, Feb 13, 2012, 13:46
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In it to win it.
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| | | 12 | Tree
ID: 101551312
Mon, Feb 13, 2012, 13:55
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sorry to see old managers leaving.
we do have a few folks from last season that were very interested in vacancies. now, if i can just remember who they are...
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| | | 13 | Building 7
Leader
ID: 171572711
Mon, Feb 13, 2012, 22:54
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Astade was interested last year. But there were no openings.
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| | | 14 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Tue, Feb 14, 2012, 07:37
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B7 you almost won it this year.
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| | | 15 | Building 7
Leader
ID: 171572711
Tue, Feb 14, 2012, 09:49
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Last year I did good. I should have come in 2nd.
That team should do good this year. I'm spending too much time on it. I don't want to deal with it every day. That's what it takes to win this league. Maybe if I got an assistant. Or I could take over Action's team. That team's not likely to win if it's managed every day or not.
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| | | 16 | Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915
Tue, Feb 14, 2012, 10:13
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I certainly wouldn't have any problem if you wanted to switch teams. Might be interesting to see what would happen if you did take over AF's team, even without your full attention to it.
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| | | 18 | Action Figure
ID: 551491422
Tue, Feb 14, 2012, 23:51
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don't hate
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| | | 19 | Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915
Tue, Feb 14, 2012, 23:56
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Not hating. Really.
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| | | 20 | Pancho Villa
ID: 597172916
Wed, Feb 15, 2012, 00:07
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I'm struggling with this decision. My passion for fantasy sports continues to wane(except for fantasy golf)and baseball really takes an almost daily dedicated effort to properly compete.
However, with the league needing at least two new managers, bowing out now could lead to a rather chaotic transition.
Let's see how things go getting replacements for AF and B7. If there's a glut of new prospects, I'll feel better about turning over my team. If it's a struggle, I'll grind out another year.
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| | | 21 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Wed, Feb 15, 2012, 03:36
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Pancho baseball really takes an almost daily dedicated effort to properly compete.
I would say it takes a daily dedicated effort not almost daily.... 8-)
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| | | 22 | Myboyjack
ID: 36452617
Mon, Feb 20, 2012, 20:53
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I'm back
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| | | 23 | Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915
Tue, Feb 21, 2012, 00:20
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From Taxman:
yeah...I'll stay another year... however I share PV's thoughts about time consumption
Please call/text my below cell if I am not around (I rarely come to the Poli page
and sometimes
go days w/o checking my e-mail) so if you need me for what ever keepers....drafting
512-eight zero one - 66 zero 5
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| | | 24 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Tue, Feb 21, 2012, 02:38
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If we don't get 3 people jumping to join. One option would be to reduce number of teams to say 12 and throw the players back into the pool of available free agents. This is most detrimental to me as I have last pick but i would be willing to do it.
Of course maybe 3 people will jump in but so far not a peep and Gurukeepers haven't gotten any new managers in almost 10 days after asking.
Is traffic down at this site?
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| | | 25 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Tue, Feb 21, 2012, 10:28
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we could also ask off site. i know we did that in football. i've got a few friends who would likely be interested - one posts sometimes and is part of the Rotoguru Fantasy Wrestling league with myself, Great One, and a few others. he'd likely be a solid and active addition to the league.
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| | | 26 | B7 in Vegas
ID: 59153219
Tue, Feb 21, 2012, 13:43
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What if we did weekly transactions somehow.
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| | | 27 | Great One
ID: 340592712
Tue, Feb 21, 2012, 13:47
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You can do weekly transactions but I think that takes away from the ability to manage. It becomes a lot of luck that your guys don't get hurt on a Monday and screw 7 days worth of stats.
You can still be very competitive checking ever 2-3 days and settling lineups a few days ahead. I had one of my best seasons a couple years ago when I was moving and could only check sparingly. I would set things pretty much on Mondays and Thursdays and let it roll for 3 days.
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| | | 28 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Tue, Feb 21, 2012, 17:09
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I am not remotely interested in a weekly transaction option.
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| | | 29 | Boldwin
ID: 49030519
Tue, Feb 21, 2012, 17:42
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Me either. This is a serious league. We've regularly turned away 3 potential managers every year not even counting the conservative you siteban every now and then. Why would anyone panic about this issue in the middle of Feb?
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| | | 30 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Tue, Feb 21, 2012, 17:52
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NC - I am not remotely interested in a weekly transaction option.
ditto.
Baldwin - not even counting the conservative you siteban every now and then
prove that we've prevented anyone from joining our league based on politics, or shut your mouth. i'm sick of the false accusations - back it up, or back off.
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| | | 31 | Boldwin
ID: 49030519
Tue, Feb 21, 2012, 18:12
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Well there was Boxman, and PD threatened me two days ago for pointing out that liberal women in power who are bent on destroying my way of life...have more testosterone than the average liberal.
But Tree and Dwetz keep truckin along unmolested somehow.
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| | | 32 | Boldwin
ID: 49030519
Tue, Feb 21, 2012, 18:52
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Tho they put their horns together they just could not overcome the logistical obstacle of getting all the catholics inside one compound.
That kind of eagle-eyed observational power is about all it takes to get a conservative univited, tho it is sorely needed around these lib-heavy parts.
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| | | 33 | Boldwin
ID: 49030519
Tue, Feb 21, 2012, 18:58
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So they compromised and just made the religion illegal in practice.
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| | | 34 | Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915
Tue, Feb 21, 2012, 19:16
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How about posting these in the right thread? Make sure your self-pity travels with you there.
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| | | 35 | Boldwin
ID: 49030519
Tue, Feb 21, 2012, 20:04
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I wager Boxman was more angry about being denied entry to the poli-league than the siteban.
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| | | 36 | Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915
Tue, Feb 21, 2012, 22:38
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Perhaps. Never said anything to my knowledge, so he certainly was graceful about it.
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| | | 37 | Boldwin
ID: 49030519
Tue, Feb 21, 2012, 23:14
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Undeservedly graceful.
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| | | 38 | B7 in Vegas
ID: 59153219
Wed, Feb 22, 2012, 00:13
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I didn't think that was gonna fly.
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| | | 39 | B7 in Vegas
ID: 59153219
Wed, Feb 22, 2012, 00:39
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OK, I'll play another year and keep my team. I'll try to find an assistant to help out when I get burned out about June. Please note, I'm posting this after a Grey Goose white russian, 3 Grey Goose and cranbeeries, a tall white russian (ripoff), and 5 or 6 Heinekens. Somehow I can still type though. The casino may take my money, but they're going to pay in free drinks.
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| | | 40 | Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915
Wed, Feb 22, 2012, 00:44
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Nice! Well back, ya drunk.
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| | | 41 | B7 in Vegas
ID: 59153219
Wed, Feb 22, 2012, 00:56
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Wait til' the brief window when I sober up, between 9 and 11 in the morning.
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| | | 42 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Wed, Feb 22, 2012, 00:59
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Well there was Boxman,
no one forced Boxman out. he left on his own volition.
and PD threatened me two days ago for pointing out that liberal women in power who are bent on destroying my way of life...have more testosterone than the average liberal
maybe we should start posting photos pointing out that Jehovah's Witness seem to have an inordinate amount of young children hanging around with them?
just sayin'.
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glad to have you back B7 - you're one of the toughest managers to ever play in this league. and drunkest, but that's what makes it fun.
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| | | 43 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Wed, Feb 22, 2012, 14:19
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Yes B7 hang in there you did an amazing job last tear and the conspiracy freaks need to stick together.
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| | | 44 | Boldwin
ID: 49030519
Wed, Feb 22, 2012, 15:46
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All for one and...
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| | | 45 | Myboyjack
ID: 36452617
Thu, Feb 23, 2012, 17:04
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Couple things: I'd like to know that Taxman is really "in" before se figure out what we're looking for. I don't like begging him to draft, etc., if his heart's not in it.
I'd be for consolidation before I'd be for getting non-forum or half=hearted managersl; however, in that event, the draft should be separate than our annual draft and with tules that don't screw the teams that happen to be on top this past year.
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| | | 46 | Tree
ID: 61182317
Thu, Feb 23, 2012, 18:23
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I'd be for consolidation before I'd be for getting non-forum or half=hearted managersl; however, in that event, the draft should be separate than our annual draft and with tules that don't screw the teams that happen to be on top this past year.
my friend Tom, who posts on the fantasy wrestling board, and who i have played fantasy sports with before, would likely be an active manager.
that being said, if we root for consolidation, i'm with MBJ - there should be a separate draft for the top players that are dispersed.
if it were me, i'd take all the players from the folding teams, and put them in a mini-draft. if two teams fold, we have a two-round draft. if three teams fold, we have a three-round draft. we do a draft IN RANDOM ORDER, that snakes.
the undrafted players go into the regular draft pool.
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| | | 47 | taxman
ID: 468322820
Thu, Feb 23, 2012, 19:48
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mbj
I thought "stay another year" was same as "in". Because I feel the league is time consuming (and to me it is) does not equate to either being a "half hearted" manager or "needing to be begged".
Is there something more you would like from me about 2012 poli season? (other than serving as commissioner)
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| | | 48 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Mon, Feb 27, 2012, 04:06
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So in years past we are turning in our keepers at the end of Feb. Obviously this year we are short 3 managers so there is no chance of that anytime soon.
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| | | 49 | Pancho Villa
ID: 597172916
Mon, Feb 27, 2012, 09:01
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we are short 3 managers so there is no chance of that anytime soon.
Hold on a sec, Nerve. If you re-read my post #20, I didn't say I'm definitely not coming back. I said I was concerned about my competitive spirit and passion, and would consider bowing out if finding an adequate replacement manager could be accomplished expeditiously.
If that's not the case, I will compete and I will do my best to compete until the last day of the season, as I've always done.
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| | | 50 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Mon, Feb 27, 2012, 09:34
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yes, it's time for us to get on this. maybe we need to start a quick email train to go over some possibilities and invite them in?
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| | | 51 | Boldwin
ID: 49030519
Mon, Feb 27, 2012, 15:51
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Boxman #1 option.
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| | | 52 | biliruben
ID: 59551120
Mon, Feb 27, 2012, 16:18
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It will be hard to play with someone who is banned from this site. And Yahoo access from prison is spotty (assuming my hypothesis is correct. that the guy who showed up armed to an Obama rally was our good friend Box).
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| | | 53 | Boldwin
ID: 49030519
Mon, Feb 27, 2012, 16:53
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You should have thot about that before that boneheaded siteban.
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| | | 54 | biliruben
ID: 59551120
Mon, Feb 27, 2012, 17:02
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The conservatives are all about personal responsibility, right? I think Box might have had a touch to do with his own siteban (certainly more than me, for which I was not at all responsible) when he started posting vile pictures, that fortunately my 4 year old was not looking over my shoulder to see at the time. At least I think that's why he was banned. His transgressions were so many and varied, I might be misremembering the last straw.
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| | | 55 | Tree
ID: 321162716
Mon, Feb 27, 2012, 17:27
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Boxman #1 option.
after his actions on this board and his actions toward his fellow board members, he was not an option, and it has nothing to do with his politics.
i honestly couldn't give a crap about someone's politics when playing fantasy sports, and anyone who does is pretty petty and lame in my book.
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| | | 56 | Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915
Mon, Feb 27, 2012, 17:30
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I think calling for any quotas in sports is a bit much.
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| | | 57 | Myboyjack
ID: 36452617
Mon, Feb 27, 2012, 20:23
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I think we need to make sure we have the requisite number of women and minorities, then get to political affiliations as a secondary selector preference.
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| | | 58 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Mon, Feb 27, 2012, 23:14
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i think it's very important we add a homosexual member as well.
oh, and a dwarf. we need a dwarf.
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| | | 59 | Building 7
Leader
ID: 171572711
Mon, Feb 27, 2012, 23:20
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Maybe we already have a homosexual member. And a dwarf.
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| | | 60 | Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915
Tue, Feb 28, 2012, 02:44
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We need a short black lesbian, than. Just one.
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| | | 61 | Boldwin
ID: 49030519
Tue, Feb 28, 2012, 03:42
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Just liberals making their normal demands. How is that joking? You can laugh at how ridiculous you are?
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| | | 62 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Tue, Feb 28, 2012, 06:02
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Tree why don't you instruct your friend to go to the thread where we are asking about new members and introduce himself and tell everyone why he wants to play?
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| | | 63 | PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Tue, Feb 28, 2012, 08:56
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I'll be heading on vacation in a few days until March 11th so will be out of touch for then.
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| | | 64 | biliruben
ID: 59551120
Tue, Feb 28, 2012, 09:05
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We are bringing in our second lesbian in my home league. I don't recommend it if you ever want to win again. I'm starting to be a bit homophobic I think. ;)
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| | | 65 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Tue, Feb 28, 2012, 09:42
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You can laugh at how ridiculous you are?
says the guy who thinks that there is some sort of conspiracy to keep conservatives out of a fantasy baseball league?!!? are you serious!?!?
Tree why don't you instruct your friend to go to the thread where we are asking about new members and introduce himself and tell everyone why he wants to play?
i've reached out to him. he's a school teacher, so i'm not sure of his internet access during the day. i'm sure his profession automatically disqualifies him in some people's eyes. /eye roll
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| | | 66 | Boldwin
ID: 49030519
Tue, Feb 28, 2012, 10:49
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Couldn't find an SEIU thug?
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| | | 67 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Tue, Feb 28, 2012, 11:16
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i'm going to suggest we start the draft shortly after punk gets back.
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| | | 68 | Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915
Tue, Feb 28, 2012, 11:33
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The teams from this board have typically acted as a shield from extreme partisan sniping. At least, clearly non-joking jabs.
I'd really rather it continued in that fashion. I'm not clear, in re-readings Boldwin's comments above, whether he is as well.
This league is having a tough time going because of the injection of partisanship into it. Heck, the politics board has the same problem in general.
Lets not sh!t in the sandbox.
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| | | 69 | Boldwin
ID: 49030519
Tue, Feb 28, 2012, 11:46
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I'm really just PO'd that we can't have any other conservative representation in this league. I don't think it's asking for the moon or a three-eyed left-handed dwarf.
And if you can't find one figure out why every conservative gets site-banned or harrassed out of the forum.
Could we first ask the near-conservatives who are semi-active in the forum at least?
My God man, with the number of conservatives in this country able to take over the house of representatives we can't find any conservatives? They aren't interested in politics? They don't play fantasy sports?
I wouldn't be so hot about it if I hadn't seen the last likely candidate site-banned for God knows what, I must have blinked or taken a day off cause I never saw it.
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| | | 70 | Tree
ID: 341262811
Tue, Feb 28, 2012, 12:34
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Baldwin - honestly, if that matters to you, form a league that is only conservatives.
no one else here cares about the politics of the other people in the league. it's not a reason to include, or exclude somebody.
not one other person in this league thinks like you are thinking.
as for Boxman, how many years ago was that at this point that he was banned. And i think bili's previous post about his reaction to the posts that did Boxman in are information enough.
this league is not about politics, other than the majority of owners having met while posting in this forum.
i have enjoyed the game being partisan free, and i think that the continued persistance we start screening owners based on politics is leaving a bad taste in a lot of owners' mouths.
this is the last i'll say on the subject matter. i'd hope that politics are not again brought into this league.
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| | | 71 | Boldwin
ID: 49030519
Tue, Feb 28, 2012, 12:41
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Yes, you would be happy to get me segregated, keep the libs from hearing the truth. No cigar today.
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| | | 72 | Boldwin
ID: 49030519
Tue, Feb 28, 2012, 12:43
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and i think that the continued persistance we start screening owners based on politics
Let me know when you decide to stop screening against conservatives.
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| | | 73 | Myboyjack
ID: 36452617
Tue, Feb 28, 2012, 15:58
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Boldwin - there's not been any conservative screening in this league. There were plenty of conservatives in the league at first. Many quit the boards and the league - not always in that order. Their reasons for quitting were varied - but I don't recall any of it having to do with politics.
If you think the Poli board is hostile to conservative posters, start that thread (if you haven't already, I don't check). If you have a conservative candidate, put him forward. But why pollute this one with a demonstrably false tangent.
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| | | 74 | Boldwin
ID: 49030519
Tue, Feb 28, 2012, 16:29
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there's not been any conservative screening in this league.
Lol! They've censored and delay/filtered my posts all day.
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| | | 75 | Boldwin
ID: 49030519
Tue, Feb 28, 2012, 16:30
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I have two hung up posts in open windows right now that won't post no matter how many times I resend.
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| | | 76 | Tree
ID: 441472815
Tue, Feb 28, 2012, 16:52
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I have two hung up posts in open windows right now that won't post no matter how many times I resend.
it's the government. or censorship on these boards.
or, more likely, your internet connection or some sort of protection you have on your computer.
you feel a need to blame anyone and everyone for your problems and when things don't go your own way. from politics to finances to posting and fantasy sports, it's alway someone else's fault.
man up. own up.
this is so frustrating.
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| | | 77 | C1-NRB
ID: 451120913
Tue, Feb 28, 2012, 17:04
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why pollute this one with a demonstrably false tangent.
I disagree. Potential managers should know what they're getting into.
B-{I>
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| | | 78 | Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915
Tue, Feb 28, 2012, 17:18
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It is just very sad the Baldwin now insists
1. That we need to have more conservative posters in the league as some sort of "balance"
2. That his posts are getting hung up because that they are "censored and delay/filtered."
Since it doesn't appear that he will stop sh!tting in this particular sandbox, I'm outta here. Good luck in the league, fellas.
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| | | 79 | Tree
ID: 301362816
Tue, Feb 28, 2012, 17:40
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damnit.
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| | | 80 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Wed, Feb 29, 2012, 11:32
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i hope Fred re-considers.
if he doesn't, we'll need a new commish, as well as another replacement owner. or at least some consolidation, as we are now less than a month away from the first game of the season. (which is actually very exciting. baseball cannot be here soon enough!)
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| | | 81 | Pancho Villa
ID: 597172916
Wed, Feb 29, 2012, 12:04
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I will formally commit to managing my team this year, which should take some of the stress off the replacement issue.
Some of you may remember that in July 2010, my high school rock band reunited after 41 years to play at the Colorado Street Bridge Festival in Pasadena, Ca. We have been asked to return this year, and I am parlaying that trip with an extended drive up the California and Oregon coasts, so internet access could be spotty for me in the middle of the season. I do have an I-phone now, so I suppose I can learn how to play fantasy baseball with it, if my kids will teach me.
If anyone is in Southern California on Saturday, July 14th, try and come out to Pasadena and watch a bunch of 60 year old guys attempt to re-live past glories. Should be worth a laugh!
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| | | 82 | Building 7
Leader
ID: 171572711
Wed, Feb 29, 2012, 12:05
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I have two hung up posts in open windows right now that won't post no matter how many times I resend.
Do you think that's due to someone at rotoguru.com reading them and blocking them? Why would they do that? How can they do that?
If you know of any conservatives that want to join the league, have them apply. Nobody has heard from Boxman in years. I don't know that we're in a position to be all that choosy who joins at this time. I emailed Astade and he declined.
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| | | 83 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Wed, Feb 29, 2012, 12:19
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PV - Yahoo now has a FANTASTIC app for the iphone/android that makes managing your team - at least in terms of setting your roster - really, really easy.
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| | | 84 | Boldwin
ID: 49030519
Wed, Feb 29, 2012, 14:26
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B7
I've never had it happen in ten years of posting here, and suddenly it's happening weekly, twice daily. It doesn't fix with reboots or patience. It seems like starting threads and posting on certain threads is put in an approval queue. No proof. This isn't one of those things I know with ontological certitude like many things I post but it does 'feel' like an even bet at least, a posteriori. Not calling anyone a liar on this if they swear it's not the case.
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| | | 85 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Wed, Feb 29, 2012, 22:30
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in absence of a Commish (Fred - PLEASE Re-consider), let's move forward with selecting a replacement manager for AF (who i believe, aside from Fred, is the only manager not returning at this point?)
my friend Tom - who Great One also knows - expressed interest in this thread, and in the Hot Stove thread as well.
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| | | 86 | Tree
ID: 512039
Sat, Mar 03, 2012, 10:05
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ok, here's where we stand:
11 managers definitely in.
no word from Coldwater Coyote, unless i missed it.
AF is unquestionably out.
PD has stepped aside, but i hope he reconsiders.
Bobo has expressed interest in a team.
has anyone reached out to CC? can anyone reach out to him?
if no other managers step up, and PD doesn't reconsider, i suggest folding two teams and allowing Bobo to choose the team. the other ones getting folded into some sort of mini-draft.
thoughts?
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| | | 87 | Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915
Sat, Mar 03, 2012, 10:42
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Just to be clear guys: I'm out. I'm afraid I'm just unwilling to play in a league with Boldwin. Mostly, because I don't have to.
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| | | 88 | Tree
ID: 33240310
Sat, Mar 03, 2012, 11:52
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sorry to hear it Fred.
to update:
11 of 14 confirmations.
AF out.
PD out.
CC AWOL.
Bobo willing to pick up one of those teams.
we also need a new commish. if no one else is going to step up, i will reluctantly do it, but i want to do a live draft.
Yahoo has gotten to the point where draft picks trades are reflected in live drafts, where keepers can be automatically selected, and so forth.
my desire to manually enter 250+ players is non-existant, so if i am going to commish, that's the way it's going to be. if people don't want that, then someone else please step up?
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| | | 89 | Coldwater coyotes
ID: 55229323
Sat, Mar 03, 2012, 14:40
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In
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| | | 90 | Boldwin
ID: 49030519
Sat, Mar 03, 2012, 16:00
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I have two counter-offers.
Tree commishes and we use Kafenatid 1-hour picks.
If that even takes too long for him, I'll offer to commish.
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| | | 91 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Sat, Mar 03, 2012, 17:34
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Baldwin - it's not the length of the draft, it's the time it takes to input those players into Yahoo.
if a live draft is absolutely impossible for some people, then we can figure something out (Yahoo may have a feature that allows the commish to give someone commish power to input the players and such).
to update:
12 of 14 confirmations.
AF out.
PD out.
Bobo willing to pick up one of those teams.
I say we find a 14th owner instead of breaking up that team.
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| | | 92 | Boldwin
ID: 49030519
Sat, Mar 03, 2012, 17:39
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I'm always so amped to plug my team in and look at it, that inputting wouldn't be a problem. How much time does it take? Been years since I was commish.
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| | | 93 | Pancho Villa
ID: 597172916
Sat, Mar 03, 2012, 19:42
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I'll talk to my golfing buddy, Jorge, who I talked to about fantasy football, but we found someone else. He's even a staunch conservative.
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| | | 94 | Pancho Villa
ID: 597172916
Sat, Mar 03, 2012, 20:51
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Jorge says he's in. He's an experienced fantasy player in baseball and will be a good manager. Do we need to vote or do I tell him it's a go? Did I mention he's a conservative? And a Mormon? And speaks Spanish? And grew up in Boston? And can drive a golf ball 350 yards(though not always straight - he may hold the course record for number of houses hit in a season)?
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| | | 95 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Sat, Mar 03, 2012, 21:44
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eff that. last thing i want in this league is another freakin' golfer. :oD
i cast a vote in favor.
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| | | 96 | Boldwin
ID: 49030519
Sat, Mar 03, 2012, 22:26
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You already got my vote on Jorge.
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| | | 97 | Building 7
Leader
ID: 171572711
Sat, Mar 03, 2012, 22:51
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Yes on Bobo.
Yes on Jorge.
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| | | 98 | Bobo
ID: 121572919
Sun, Mar 04, 2012, 11:47
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Woot Woot!!!
Thanks all!
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| | | 99 | biliruben
ID: 59551120
Sun, Mar 04, 2012, 11:49
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Go bobo. Go Jorge.
Now all you have to do is submit your voting record, both general and primary, for the last 20 years.
Don't forget the local school board! That's what tripped up the last 5 applicants. How can we have someone who supports charters in this league.
Good luck!
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| | | 100 | Pancho Villa
ID: 597172916
Sun, Mar 04, 2012, 12:06
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All right, now I'm fired up for baseball again. Let's decide who's the new commish, declare our keepers and set the draft. I'm in favor of some type of fast or at least faster draft than in past years.
How do we decide which team Bobo and Jorge inherit?
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| | | 101 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Sun, Mar 04, 2012, 12:28
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because he was the commish last season, PD has to start the league. he's going to flip it to me when he does, then we'll go about assigning the new teams.
i think the best way is to assign them randomly. they were the two last place teams in the league and will require some rebuilding, so the differece isn't vast.
i definitely would like a fast draft also - a live one actually - as previously stated.
i feel like a couple people had issues about this in football, but maybe it will be different in baseball?
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| | | 102 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Sun, Mar 04, 2012, 13:50
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Tree why would he "flip it to you" you are only willing to do a live draft and I don't think that has been up for a vote yet.
Baldwin is willing commish and do the slow draft to do the slow draft and do the inputing.
i vote for the slow draft. Can we get everyone else's vote before Tree simply decides this for everyone.
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| | | 103 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Sun, Mar 04, 2012, 14:46
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NC - i wasn't deciding anything. i was voting for what i was personally in favor of.
someone has got to get the league started in PD's absence. i volunteered, until we can figure out the commish thing, so slow your roll.
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| | | 104 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Sun, Mar 04, 2012, 19:47
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ok, Baldwin, i believe we can ::GASP:: work together on this.
i can assign you as a co-commish. that way, we can do an offline draft if the league prefers, and since you said you had no problem inputting the information, you could take care of that.
when you sign up, i'll assign those co-commish duties to you. make sure your email is not hidden, because Yahoo won't let you have commish duties with a hidden email.
also - one thing that will make it easier - owners can input their own keepers, which will reduce the amount of work needed.
anyway, let me know if you want to do this, and i'll assign commish duties to you.
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| | | 105 | C1-NRB
ID: 2122421
Sun, Mar 04, 2012, 22:02
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I've been away for the last few days.
I vote Yes for everything.
Everything being Bobo, Jorge, and dueling, I mean dualing commishes Tree and Boldwin.
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| | | 106 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Mon, Mar 05, 2012, 01:54
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I vote yes for the new members and for a slow draft.
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| | | 107 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Mon, Mar 05, 2012, 02:44
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By the way very interesting strategy for Tree to nominate Baldwin as a co-commish, that's like an ice berg nominating the titanic.
We should assign teams and set a keeper deadline very soon. First game is March 28th.
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| | | 108 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Mon, Mar 05, 2012, 09:02
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1. NC - thanks for the vote of confidence. oy. as soon as Baldwin signs up and makes his email accessible, i can set him as co-commish.
2. invites have been sent - so far, the only people to respond are:
GO
Me
CC
Tax
3. As soon as we figure out which team Bobo is taking over and which team Jorge is taking over, i can invite them.
suggestions how to pick those teams?
4. right now, the keeper deadline set in yahoo is March 16. i'm pretty sure that's changeable.
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| | | 109 | Pancho Villa
ID: 597172916
Mon, Mar 05, 2012, 09:18
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AF left first and Bobo joined first. Then PD and Jorge. So,
AF team - Bobo
and
PD team - Jorge
Yes? Both teams were at the bottom of the heap, so there's not much advantage either way.
The bigger question seems to be the draft - fast or slow. Slow drafts take two weeks. As Boldwin mentioned, we could do Kafenatid, set a short clock, and get it done in a few days. There's my vote.
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| | | 110 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Mon, Mar 05, 2012, 09:47
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i'm ok with that. if a few more folks chime in, i'll set that up later this afternoon.
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| | | 111 | biliruben
ID: 59551120
Mon, Mar 05, 2012, 10:05
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I'm general for a slow-draft, but modified slow with a hard clock and everyone focused or at least queued-up would be acceptable I suppose.
I would just do a quick randomized assignment for bobo and Jorge. I.E. flip a coin.
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| | | 112 | biliruben
ID: 59551120
Mon, Mar 05, 2012, 10:08
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The voices in my head don't lie.
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| | | 113 | Coldwater coyotes
ID: 55229323
Mon, Mar 05, 2012, 10:43
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Slow for me
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| | | 114 | Boldwin
ID: 49030519
Mon, Mar 05, 2012, 10:50
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I stand athwart history shouting slow down.
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| | | 115 | Boldwin
ID: 49030519
Mon, Mar 05, 2012, 10:57
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I really have always thot we should have a harder clock but we are just so gentlemanly and civil that we will always stop the clock for every possible excuse or moment of uncertainty. I would be surprised if that changes even if we start out with speedier intentions. Can you really imagine this league passing a guy for 18 hours if he goes awol? We should but somehow I doubt it. We just don't want to play against anyone's gimped team because he had an emergency come up. I want to beat your absolutely best effort.
But again, a hard hour clock is fair enuff for me. Maybe even 45 minutes.
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| | | 116 | Tree
ID: 26226510
Mon, Mar 05, 2012, 11:34
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If Baldwin is willing to co-commish and input the players from the draft, i'm ok with whatever draft anyone else wants to do.
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| | | 117 | Boldwin
ID: 49030519
Mon, Mar 05, 2012, 11:50
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I would be delighted to, but would it let me?
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| | | 118 | Tree
ID: 923511
Mon, Mar 05, 2012, 12:05
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sign up. make your email visible. i'll add you as co-commish next time i get on the yahoo site.
(i know how you can be about your email, but that's a yahoo thing. if it's not visible, it won't let you commish)
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| | | 119 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Mon, Mar 05, 2012, 16:35
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Deadline for keepers is when?
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| | | 120 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Mon, Mar 05, 2012, 18:17
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re post 108, i have it set for March 16, but that's up for discussion.
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| | | 121 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Mon, Mar 05, 2012, 20:58
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the following still haven't signed up:
Punk
Baldwin
c1NRB
i think that's it.
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| | | 122 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Mon, Mar 05, 2012, 23:29
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The 16th is 10 more days and makes it really tight for both the draft and keeper draft, if we could do it a little earlier then the 16th it might be better. If we have all out managers now we probably could do it by the 10th or maybe the 12th and start the draft a few days later?
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| | | 123 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Tue, Mar 06, 2012, 02:09
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Punk, Baldwin, Jorge, and Bobo still need to sign up.
Punk is out of town until the 11th, with limited internet access.
so anything before then probably doesn't work for him. 12th should be good.
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| | | 124 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Tue, Mar 06, 2012, 06:27
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12th sounds good to me ... we sort of need to get moving now.
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| | | 125 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Tue, Mar 06, 2012, 10:17
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yahoo lets you declare keepers whenever you want, the 12th is just the deadline.
depending on where we do the draft, we can input them there.
as soon as Baldwin unhides his email, i'll give him the co-commish status.
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| | | 126 | Bobo
ID: 54133289
Tue, Mar 06, 2012, 10:36
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I'm signed up as of this morning.
I am in favor of a draft on Kafenatid, with a short clock, and getting it done in a few days.
Can I get more specifics on when I might be able to review the team I am inheriting and able to review who I might want to keep, being mindful of the deadline (TBD?) for keepers?
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| | | 127 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Tue, Mar 06, 2012, 11:30
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Tom - you should be able to view your team right now, the one you signed up as.
go to "Select keepers" and see if it lets you review your roster.
if not, let me know. that means Yahoo doesn't have it all quite figured out. lol
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| | | 128 | PV @ Ranches
ID: 1010151016
Tue, Mar 06, 2012, 11:49
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Jorge got his invite. Will sign in this morning
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| | | 129 | coldwater coyotes
SuperDude
ID: 229272412
Tue, Mar 06, 2012, 13:33
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How many keepers? ... same question every year!!
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| | | 130 | Bobo
ID: 54133289
Tue, Mar 06, 2012, 14:24
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Awesome...yes, they are there.
Thanks.
7 keepers total is what it is indicating...correct?
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| | | 131 | Building 7
Leader
ID: 171572711
Tue, Mar 06, 2012, 14:27
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7 keepers and up to 3 prospects.
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| | | 132 | Bobo
ID: 54133289
Tue, Mar 06, 2012, 14:38
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Re: 131
How does that work regarding prospects? Are they declared here instead?
Is there a set criteria to determine "what" a prospect is?
In the event I am unenthusiastic on the "prospects" I inherited, am I stuck with them and obligated to choose 3?
Yahoo allows only for setting 7 keepers
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| | | 133 | Building 7
Leader
ID: 171572711
Tue, Mar 06, 2012, 15:03
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Up to 3 Prospect keepers are due at the same time. There will be a separate prospect draft after the regular draft. Something like 125 IP or 300 AB's. You don't have to keep any prospects or up to 3 prospects. You can trade them.
Here is the prospect draft from last year. After the draft is over, you should have 5 prospects.
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| | | 134 | Pancho Villa
ID: 597172916
Tue, Mar 06, 2012, 20:43
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Heh. Obamas replaced by Romneys. And still Boldwin won't be happy.
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| | | 135 | Bobo
ID: 121572919
Tue, Mar 06, 2012, 21:18
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B7 - thanks for that response and the link to last year's prospect draft.
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| | | 136 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Wed, Mar 07, 2012, 01:51
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lol. post 134. that cracked me up.
Baldwin - make your email on the yahoo site visible?
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| | | 137 | Boldwin
ID: 49030519
Wed, Mar 07, 2012, 06:02
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Could be worse.
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| | | 138 | coldwater coyotes
SuperDude
ID: 229272412
Wed, Mar 07, 2012, 13:42
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How many keepers? ... same question every year!!
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| | | 139 | Boldwin
ID: 49030519
Wed, Mar 07, 2012, 14:06
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Seven regular keepers.
As many as three prospect keepers.
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| | | 140 | Tree
ID: 37226713
Wed, Mar 07, 2012, 14:26
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Baldwin - did you make your email public yet?
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| | | 141 | Boldwin
ID: 49030519
Wed, Mar 07, 2012, 14:27
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Yup...middle of the night.
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| | | 142 | Tree
ID: 22233713
Wed, Mar 07, 2012, 14:37
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ok, as of this morning, it hadn't switched over yet. i'll check again in a bit.
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| | | 143 | Pancho Villa
ID: 597172916
Fri, Mar 09, 2012, 09:22
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We seem to be in limbo. When do we declare keepers? When and where is the draft? What's the commish situation? Season opener is less than 3 weeks away. Decisions need to be made now.
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| | | 144 | Tree
ID: 5225898
Fri, Mar 09, 2012, 10:01
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PV -
March 12 for keepers. on the Yahoo site, you can check them off - just follow the instructions.
Baldwin and I are co-commishing. he has volunteered to enter the players into the yahoo database. whether we do the draft here, or on kafenatid, that's up to whatever Baldwin prefers.
but i agree time is off the essence. i say if keepers are do the 12th, we start the draft the following day - the 13th.
BALDWIN - where do you want to do the draft?
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| | | 145 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Fri, Mar 09, 2012, 10:35
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If we are putting short time limit on draft picks it has to be on kafinated so I can leave as cue. I don't think one day is enough time to set up a long cue on kafinated. Please remember I am 12 hours difference from west coast, 9 from east coast. For example when it's 4PM in New York, it's 1 AM here.
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| | | 146 | Tree
ID: 1123999
Fri, Mar 09, 2012, 10:40
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fair enough.
in the interest of truly sharing these duties, i am going to leave the draft setting up and all that in Baldwin's hands.
i know we picked the 12th as the keeper date because Punk is out of town until the 11th.
i do believe Baldwin cares about this league, so i think he'll take of it in a timely manner.
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| | | 147 | Great One
ID: 340592712
Fri, Mar 09, 2012, 11:43
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I made my 300 player que in 40 minutes to use in all my leagues. I am ready to roll.
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| | | 148 | Boldwin
ID: 49030519
Fri, Mar 09, 2012, 13:45
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I am bending on the Kafenatid issue. Maybe we should try it and tighten up the clock a bit more than usual.
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| | | 149 | Boldwin
ID: 49030519
Fri, Mar 09, 2012, 13:47
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Who is going to have vacation/business trip conflicts for this draft so we know what time obstacles we need to thread?
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| | | 150 | Boldwin
ID: 49030519
Fri, Mar 09, 2012, 13:54
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BTW my father-in-law died two days ago and I am also babysitting my own 85 yr old parents about 4 hours a day [no internet at their house] so this isn't going to be seamless. Next Friday especially. I really need Friday evening off for the funeral.
Tree, any problem with a keeper declaration deadline [both] of next Wednesday?
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| | | 151 | Tree
ID: 40251913
Fri, Mar 09, 2012, 15:09
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that was my original date, but NC pointed out that between posting keepers, getting them input, and starting the draft, we'd probably have less than a week to draft.
that's why the earlier date of the 12th - one day after Punk returns from vacation - was selected.
i'm ok with whatever, but i think time is becoming of the essence.
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| | | 152 | Boldwin
ID: 49030519
Fri, Mar 09, 2012, 16:32
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Ok, 12th for keeper declarations and 13th to start the draft?
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| | | 153 | Boldwin
ID: 49030519
Fri, Mar 09, 2012, 16:34
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Vote on Kafenatid. How many votes do we have for Kafenatid?
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| | | 154 | C1-NRB
ID: 451120913
Fri, Mar 09, 2012, 16:35
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Yes for Kafenatid/Draftime
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| | | 155 | Building 7
Leader
ID: 171572711
Fri, Mar 09, 2012, 16:54
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Yes for Koffinkorner, 1 hour limit, 1 mulligan.
I don't really care, though.
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| | | 156 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Sat, Mar 10, 2012, 04:29
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GO I made my 300 player que in 40 minutes to use in all my leagues. I am ready to roll.
it's a keeper league so cannot make the que until 100% of the league has shown their hands so we build the list from the remaining players. At that point I have to consider things like position scarcity based on who is left after the keepers have been chosen. Likewise have to review stats (of keepers and then what's left behind) to see if there has been a bias towards power? SB's Starting pitching etc. So yeah a little bit of work to do if your are doing anymore then scratching names off a the espn top 250 list, or maybe throwing darts at it. ;-)
You are able to make your list with 40 minutes of deliberation? Good luck winning with that amount of care and concern.
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| | | 157 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Sat, Mar 10, 2012, 04:31
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I have no problem with Kafe and a short clock as long as I get one mulligan being in a completely different time zone. (Although I don't think I have ever held up a draft in the past even from here)
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| | | 158 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Sat, Mar 10, 2012, 08:19
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i think one hour is a bit too short, even with US Time Zone differences, unless you're going to have a clock that accounts for that.
i'd go for two hours - that accounts for things like commutes, sleeping, etc etc.
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| | | 159 | Pancho Villa
ID: 597172916
Sat, Mar 10, 2012, 08:53
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If we're going to use Kafenatid, it needs to be set up this weekend, because it will take several days for everyone to sign up, especially with new managers unfamiliar with the site.
I would actually favor a 4 hour clock. If a manager doesn't set a que, it doesn't matter if the clock is an hour or 4 hours. At least with 4 hours, if a pick is skipped, there's been ample time to justify the skip.
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| | | 160 | Myboyjack
ID: 36452617
Sat, Mar 10, 2012, 11:56
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Definitely second PV's #159. If, in the later rounds, there is a need to speed up the clock, we can. I'd like to be in a league where we can feel comfortable that everyone has made their first couple of picks anyway, before the robots take over. I'll be in court all day on the 13th and 14th, but should be able to pick with my phone from counsel table.
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| | | 161 | coldwater coyotes
SuperDude
ID: 229272412
Sat, Mar 10, 2012, 13:01
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Kafe 4 hours
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| | | 162 | biliruben
ID: 59551120
Sat, Mar 10, 2012, 13:07
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Sounds fine. Now that we don't have PD to do yeoman's work, I'm guessing it will be Kapitated exclusively.
My vote would be no clock for the 1st 2 rounds, then 2 hour after that.
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| | | 163 | Great One
ID: 450312813
Sat, Mar 10, 2012, 15:16
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Agree with no clock 1st rounds just to get it rolling, then whatever you want.
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| | | 164 | Myboyjack
ID: 36452617
Sat, Mar 10, 2012, 15:41
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Like it.
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| | | 165 | taxman
ID: 21281010
Sat, Mar 10, 2012, 16:56
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yes... for Draft Time and everything else Fred proposes
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| | | 166 | taxman
ID: 21281010
Sat, Mar 10, 2012, 17:01
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fyi..
will be available by cell from 15th through 18th.
Text messages will work best..my cell # was posted earlier in this thread.
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| | | 167 | PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Sat, Mar 10, 2012, 21:49
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I'm all singed up in the league now
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| | | 168 | biliruben
ID: 59551120
Sat, Mar 10, 2012, 22:44
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I need a seventh keeper. I would be looking for a young power bat with high upside. Salary, er... pick dependent on experience.
What's the curious rule about bringing up prospects after the regular draft again?
Can I do two?
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| | | 169 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Sun, Mar 11, 2012, 00:59
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you can bring up prospects during the draft - generally speaking, as a draft pick, and usually the last drat picks.
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| | | 170 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Sun, Mar 11, 2012, 04:04
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Can everyone please post keepers on this site also? I don't even see where the show up on Yahoo, I just see where I am allowed to make my choice.
Plus it's nice to have the archive here to review and discuss.
I'll start a separate thread for it.
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| | | 171 | biliruben
ID: 59551120
Sun, Mar 11, 2012, 06:31
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If I bring them up as my 2 last draft picks, can I then keep my remaining 3 prospects or only 1?
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| | | 172 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Sun, Mar 11, 2012, 07:37
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Bili that has always been the controversy I think.
It seems to me I remember you have to declare your three prospect keepers, then during the draft you can bring them up which opens 4 slots to draft new but you lose the other 2 that you didn't keep. That was always the big controversy because otherwise you are getting to keep all 5 prospects and or essentially 9 keepers since you are the only one who can draft them.
I think one year I wanted to draft them and keep the remaining prospects but it wasn't allowed. I am sure it's in old threads somewhere.
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| | | 173 | Building 7
Leader
ID: 171572711
Sun, Mar 11, 2012, 09:41
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If I bring them up as my 2 last draft picks, can I then keep my remaining 3 prospects or only 1?
I think just one bili. I did it last year with Bumgarner. He was one of my 3 prospect keepers. But then I had 4 picks in the prospect draft.
You have to declare your 3 prospect keepers at the same time as regular keepers. If they are on that list, you can draft them with you're last pick.
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| | | 174 | biliruben
ID: 59551120
Sun, Mar 11, 2012, 11:39
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Yeah, that makes sense. I remember whining about this years ago. Declaring your prospect keepers ahead of time is what made the rule palatable.
I'll probably end up bringing up Jennings as a true keeper in that case, and bring just Son of Flash up in the tricky way, allowing me to keep my two best keepers. I think.
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| | | 175 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Sun, Mar 11, 2012, 12:23
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right - as i remember it.
1. we declare regular and prospect keepers at the same time.
2. during the regular draft, we can call up those prospect keepers (i.e. draft them)
3. then you can re-fill those spots during the prospect draft.
it allows you to retool your prospect roster, but prevents you from having "extra" keepers.
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| | | 177 | Boldwin
ID: 49030519
Sun, Mar 11, 2012, 15:27
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Use this link to register your team in Kafenatid draft.
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| | | 178 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Sun, Mar 11, 2012, 17:34
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Nice Baldwin I am in
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| | | 179 | Building 7
Leader
ID: 171572711
Sun, Mar 11, 2012, 17:52
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There were a couple trades involving draft choices. See posts 713 and 739. link
Basically, GO's 3rd round for PD's last round. And Action's (Bobo's) 1st round for my last round and Heyward. See if you can enter those into Draftime somehow.
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| | | 180 | C1-NRB
ID: 42281120
Sun, Mar 11, 2012, 21:12
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From the Yahoo! team page:
Your commissioner has set Monday March 12, 2012, as your league's deadline for declaring your keepers. You can make and edit your selections until 11:59pm PT on Sunday March 11, 2012.
If I'm reading that right, we have to declare our keepers today, Sunday, not tomorrow.
Was this intentional? Doesn't that defeat the purpose of saying Monday is the deadline? What happens if somebody doesn't get their keepers in before midnight PDT?
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| | | 181 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Sun, Mar 11, 2012, 22:13
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i honestly don't know what i means. i'll move it one day just in case.
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| | | 182 | Pancho Villa
ID: 597172916
Sun, Mar 11, 2012, 22:48
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Trade announcement:
Panchovians trades 2nd and 4th round draft picks to Sweet and Sour Forever
for Michael Morse and Tree's 3rd and 6th picks
Now, since Morse isn't on my team, how do I declare him as a keeper?
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| | | 183 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Sun, Mar 11, 2012, 23:23
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confirmed.
let me see, as a commish, if i can manipulate the trade on the yahoo page.
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| | | 184 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Sun, Mar 11, 2012, 23:51
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try now?
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| | | 185 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Mon, Mar 12, 2012, 01:27
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Are we able to see the keepers on the Yahoo website?
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| | | 186 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Mon, Mar 12, 2012, 01:49
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i don't know. probably after the deadline? this is the first time Yahoo has done this.
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| | | 187 | Tree
ID: 92541219
Mon, Mar 12, 2012, 20:56
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i'll be out until about 9:30 central time, but will post my keepers shortly after that.
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| | | 188 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 00:56
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So it's after midnight and 3 teams still haven't posted keepers. If they posted them on Yahoo, as far as we can tell there is no way to see them. Can they please post their teams as requested on the keeper thread.
This just makes it more difficult for me to imagine getting the draft ques set on time if people don't post their keepers.
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| | | 189 | Baldwin
ID: 53257130
Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 02:42
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Spent the day shepherding my father between doctors. In one day my father went from being the healthier parent to the weakest link.
His second surgery isn't a smashing success. He's deteriorating fast. Suddenly senile and impossibly slow. Between that and incompetent doctors/community hospitals/phone operators, I just about died of frustration.
Came home and crashed. Sorry for the keeper declaration delay. I didn't see these complications coming.
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| | | 190 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 03:22
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My father is in pretty much the same boat Baldwin, Uses oxygen, can hardly move around, it's really tough, but of course I am on the other side of the planet and not dealing with it on a daily basis.
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| | | 191 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 03:25
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So we are still missing keepers from two teams. Any idea where they are?
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| | | 192 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 07:48
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i'm about to run my car to the shop. when i get back in a bit, i'll track down the managers who are missing keepers. i haven't had a chance to look.
in the meantime, when Baldwin's situation allows, he can start entering keepers for those who did submit.
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| | | 193 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 10:15
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Obviously we won't start the draft today if we don't even have all the teams turning in keepers. They may have done it on yahoo only not realizing we cannot see it there.
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| | | 194 | biliruben
ID: 59551120
Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 10:20
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I'm going up into the mountains today with my boy, and have not even contemplated drafting. I was waiting to know what the universe of players available was. Still am.
I will make a pick tonight, provided we have all the keepers declared.
FYI, I couldn't declare my keepers on Yahoo. Missed the deadline and it's now frozen.
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| | | 195 | Great One
ID: 340592712
Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 10:21
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You can change the keeper date on Yahoo and it will unlock everything and people can check their boxes again.
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| | | 196 | Pancho Villa
ID: 597172916
Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 10:26
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I'll get in touch with Jorge this morning. Besides declaring keepers, we still need to find out if everyone's signed up on Kafinated.
Are we going to mimic the draft in a thread here as well?
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| | | 197 | biliruben
ID: 59551120
Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 10:53
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What's the password for Daftime?
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| | | 198 | Bobo
ID: 54133289
Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 11:02
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Keepers are posted; only had them on Yahoo...my fault.
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| | | 199 | Pancho Villa
ID: 597172916
Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 11:03
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Jorge declared keepers on Yahoo, will post here and prospect keepers.
He's not in Draftime yet. I've got a busy morning, maybe one of the commishes could walk him through the process.
jorgesags@gmail.com
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| | | 200 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 11:06
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Wow BoBo has a lot of Atlanta Braves Keepers....
8-)
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| | | 201 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 11:07
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post 176 bili...
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| | | 202 | Great One
ID: 340592712
Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 11:24
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Does he still have Billy Wagner?
I'm sure Bobo would love to know about 2 years ago his predecessor wouldn't trade the retiring Braves closer for a high draft pick in August even though he was in last place...
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| | | 203 | Building 7
Leader
ID: 171572711
Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 12:06
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Bobo, here are your eligible prospects. I'm not sure where Delgado came from unless there was a trade.
Carlos Triunfel
Gorkys Hernandez
1.01 JULIO TEHERAN, RHP, ATL
2.01 Trevor Bauer, SP, The University of California, Los Angeles
Blanks lost his eligibility.
You can keep up to 3 of those guys.
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| | | 204 | Bobo
ID: 121572919
Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 12:44
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I'm set up in Draftime now...
B7, those were not the keepers I was aware of but I am happy to see them. I will adjust my keepers now.
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| | | 205 | Nerveclinic
ID: 52134819
Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 13:06
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Bobo they are separate from regular keepers. You still can keep your regular keepers, and you also can keep up to 3 minor league prospects. I guess we have to figure out how to explain all the rules to these new guys.
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| | | 206 | Bobo
ID: 54133289
Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 13:26
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Re: 205
I think I got, no?
I have 7 MLB "vet" keepers and have elected to keeper 2 "prospects."
If I am off base, let me know. :)
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| | | 207 | Building 7
Leader
ID: 171572711
Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 13:29
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Bobo, you can keep up to 7 of these guys in addition to your prospects. You can keep Delgado, but he has to be one of your regular 7 keepers and not a prospect keeper.
Kyle Blanks
Jose Constanza
Johnny Damon
Ike Davis
Edwin Encarnacion
J.J. Hardy
Jason Heyward
Omar Infante
Chipper Jones
Brian McCann
Hunter Pence
Pablo Sandoval
Ichiro Suzuki
Miguel Batista
Trevor Cahill
Randall Delgado
Matt Garza
Tommy Hanson
Tim Hudson
Jeff Locke
Zach McAllister
Tommy Milone
Chris Perez
Jon Rauch
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| | | 208 | C1-NRB
ID: 42281120
Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 14:29
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Not that it's going to come up, but I'm about to lose access until late this evening. If the draft starts and it gets to me I'll pick as soon as I get back.
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| | | 209 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 14:51
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I don't imagine the draft will start today?
Have the commishes gone into draft time and eliminated the keepers or added them to the teams? Until that happens can't start and by the way 11 PM here now.
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| | | 210 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 16:03
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posted bili and tax's keepers from rotoguru to the yahoo page.
as for draft time, that's on Baldwin. he's handling that.
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| | | 211 | Myboyjack
ID: 36452617
Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 17:16
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Am i missing something? Kafe thingie won't let me pre-rank players. Does that only happen after the draft starts or something?
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| | | 212 | Building 7
Leader
ID: 171572711
Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 17:25
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I can't do anything there either. You need to post your prospect keepers. So does Jorge.
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| | | 213 | Myboyjack
ID: 36452617
Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 17:32
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Do we have a list of everyone prosepcts from last year handy?
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| | | 214 | Building 7
Leader
ID: 171572711
Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 17:41
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MBJ:
Yonder Alonso, Ben Revere, Michel Ynoa
1.06 Mike Moustakas, 3B, KC
2.06 Devin Mesoraco, C, Reds
Jorge:
Carlos Carrasco, Freddie Freeman, Martin Perez
1.04 Shelby Miller, P, St L
2.04 Jameson Taillon, P, Pit
Later traded Carrasco for Chisenhall.
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| | | 215 | Myboyjack
ID: 36452617
Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 17:43
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Prospect keepers:
1. Devin Mesoraco, C
2. Michael Ynoa, P
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| | | 216 | Boldwin
ID: 58261320
Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 21:22
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Had to drive my father to the hospital in Peoria all day so this draft is starting out crazy for me.
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| | | 217 | PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 22:51
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Can the Prospects be entered into Kafe too so they can't be drafted?
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| | | 218 | Nerveclinic
ID: 52134819
Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 23:14
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If the prospects are listed in draft time they can be removed like any normal player.
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| | | 219 | Nerveclinic
ID: 52134819
Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 23:16
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We need Jorge's prospects before we can start.
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| | | 220 | PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 23:46
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Yeah that would save a lot of time and fix a lot of problems that could happen if we're only using Kafe.
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| | | 221 | Pancho Villa
ID: 597172916
Tue, Mar 13, 2012, 23:57
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We need Jorge's prospects before we can start.
Freeman is one of his keepers. The other 3 will be in the minors, with the possible exception of Perez. He won't be drafted.
Jorge hasn't had much time to explore his prospects, so I say let's start the draft and let Jorge decide about his prospects in the next day or so.
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| | | 222 | Pancho Villa
ID: 597172916
Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 00:11
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Jorge just texted me. He never got an invite to Kafinated. Plus, I gave him AF's prospects, not his own, my bad. No wonder he was confused.
jorgesags@gmail.com is his email. Let's get rolling!
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| | | 223 | Jorge
ID: 142161323
Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 00:16
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I apologize for not figuring this thing out on time. I kept on searching the Yahoo site but couldn't figure out my prospects. Bob let me in on the f fact that the league is spread through three different sites. I don't haveaccess to the draft site yet. Can someone help me with it?
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| | | 224 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 00:39
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Pancho if we start the draft, without Jorge prospects being picked, that means any of us can draft them during the regular draft.
For example, B7 has Matt Moore as a keeper prospect. Had he not listed him, I would have drafted Moore in the first 2 or so rounds.
That's why it's important to get the prospects picked before the draft.
I wasn't sent an invite to draft time either that I am aware of. I saw Baldwins post 176 and 177 and clicked on the link.
Definitely we have given only a minimal amount of info to these new guys and we have to figure out how to give more, but the biggest key is that during draft time, come to this thread several times a day, read all the posts, and ask questions if something is not clear.
To Bobo and Jorge, my email is above linked in "blue", if you have any questions feel free to send me an email but just be aware I live in Dubai and I am about 8 hours ahead of the east coast so I am not always around when it's evening in the USA. Otherwise I am constantly on email for work and will be happy to help.
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| | | 225 | Sags
ID: 212351323
Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 01:03
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Thanks for the references to lines 176 and 177. I have signed up for Draftime.
Regarding keepers, if i were to keep Freeman as a prospect, when could I bring him up? Can I replace him as a keeper from my 7 regs?
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| | | 226 | Sags
ID: 212351323
Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 01:09
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BTW, this is Jorge. I registered for the RotoGuru site as Sags.
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| | | 227 | Sags
ID: 212351323
Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 01:42
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I just read this entire thread. I think I got the hang of how this league works and my question on Freeman was answered somewhere between 170 and 175.
I believe these are my prospects from which I can pick 3:
Carlos Carrasco
Freddie Freeman
Martin Perez
Shelby Miller
Jameson Taillon
If I were to include Freeman as one of my 3 keepers, I could select him in the regular draft as my last pick. Is this correct? If so, can I amend my regular keeper selection?
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| | | 228 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 05:28
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I'm going to make the prospect keepers unavailable till the end of the draft on kafenatid.
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| | | 229 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 05:43
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Only half the prospects were on the kafenatid list so we'll have to watch the add-ons. I reserved all I could.
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| | | 230 | Tree
ID: 37226713
Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 08:22
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Freeman is a prospect grandfathered by the old rules, and can only be kept as a true keeper, not a prospect.
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| | | 231 | Building 7
Leader
ID: 171572711
Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 09:38
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Here are your choices, the best I can tell.
Lonnie Chisenhall - old rules
Martin Perez - old rules
Shelby Miller - new rules
Jameson Taillon - new rules
Freddie Freeman has 595 career at bats. He can never be a prospect again. The limit is 300 AB's or 125 IP's. Under the old rules, you can only call up a prospect once and then he loses his status. Under the new rules, you can add them and drop them as much as you want as long as they stay under the limits. And nobody else is allowed to pick them up.
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| | | 232 | Great One
ID: 340592712
Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 09:43
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We really need a summarized league constitution and prospect list for this league. It really hurt me trying to figure everything out when I joined and I can see these guys are having the same problems. And the prospect rules really aren't clear at all.
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| | | 233 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 10:05
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the prospect list will sort itself out once the old rules/new rules crap is done, but my personal opinion is that we just need to go ahead - after last year being used as a transition year - making every prospect under the new rules.
i also think all this cross platform business is nuts - we're using these boards, Kaf, and Yahoo for listing keepers, drafting, etc etc.
we really do need to streamline.
the league can be so simple - for example:
Prospects - can roster 5, can keep up to 3. 300 ABs, 125 IP. Add and Drop as many times as you want.
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| | | 234 | Bobo
ID: 54133289
Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 11:15
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Are we beginning the draft today yet?
Just seeking clarification on how much time I have to build a queue on Draftime...please and thank you...
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| | | 235 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 11:16
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tree I agree we should now one year later make all prospects under the new rules, can be brought up and sent down at will under 300.
As far as streamlining goes we had to list keepers here since we couldn't see them on Yahoo there was no other way to do it.
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| | | 236 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 11:18
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Any clarification on when draft starts. Bobo right now none of can get in so I am hoping once we can ample time is given for everyone to set heir cues, they are very easy to set.
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| | | 237 | Pancho Villa
ID: 597172916
Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 11:25
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I have to leave all day, hoped to be able to set a que since I'm at the top of the draft, then don't have a pick til rnd 3. Maybe a commish can call me and pick for me if it comes to that.
801 608-0275
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| | | 238 | Tree
ID: 112331411
Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 12:34
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i know Baldwin's got family stuff going on with his dad.
hopefully we'll here from him soon in regards to getting Kaf set up and started.
i'm wondering if we shouldn't just start drafting here?
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| | | 239 | Sags
ID: 552481411
Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 12:49
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If Baldwin doenst have time to get the keepers up, why not just start the draft from scratch and everyone "drafts" their keepers in the first 7 rounds.
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| | | 240 | PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 13:03
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Well from Baldwin's last post it sounds like he's got most of the keeper stuff in right now.
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| | | 241 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 15:05
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Finishing the settings in the next two hours.
Tentatively set to start 8PM eastern time.
I don't expect to start the clock until 11AM tomorrow. Vote on that if you want to.
If anyone could ascertain and verify any changes to the regular draft order in the first three rounds caused by trades that would be outstanding.
[caught my wife's killer cold and all I wanna do is sleep 24/7, funeral guests show up in town tomorrow expecting to stay with us. Building inspector from hell tentatively scheduled to show up tomorrow, fun fun fun]
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| | | 242 | Building 7
Leader
ID: 171572711
Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 15:38
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For trades, see 179 and 182.
I have the 2nd pick in the draft, and can trade that to someone for their 1st round pick and better draft picks later in the draft.
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| | | 243 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 16:10
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Just be aware it's 12 Am here and I am headed to bed shortly so won't get my cue set today since draft time is not ready, but I am the last pick in the first round.
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| | | 244 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 16:22
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Half the regular keepers are entered and I expect they'll be complete in an hour.
I also expect Nerve will get his very own extended clock. Just my two cents.
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| | | 245 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 17:09
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All entries complete.
Exception: Kafenatid does not have Mike Stanton on it's list of players afaik, so that's an issue we'll have to solve for B7.
Just checking for any trades that might have changed things before I finalize.
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| | | 246 | Great One
ID: 340592712
Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 17:11
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thats cause his name is Giancarlo.
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| | | 247 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 17:31
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Having some trouble here.
I keep setting the draft pick trade between B7 and Bobo and it still shows Bobo drafting in the first round.
Hold tight.
Also if someone could e-mail kafenatid and get mike stanton added to the draftables.
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| | | 248 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 17:35
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The only thing I can figure out is that it won't let me trade only draft picks without players and I already made those keeper switches when I input the keepers.
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| | | 249 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 17:48
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Ok, every problem fixed except how to add Gio Stanton to B7's roster.
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| | | 250 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 17:51
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I don't see a fix in the admin's tools at this point. We are all just going to have to remember not to pick Giancarlo Stanton.
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| | | 251 | Tree
ID: 332391416
Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 17:52
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as for Mike Stanton, i'm betting it's under Giancarlo, which is apparently his birth name, and the name he's going by right now.
maybe Great One remembers how draft picks swap work. i feel like that once it gets to that pick, it does the swap, but doesn't show it before hand.
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| | | 252 | Great One
ID: 512531316
Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 18:14
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I am not clear on what the problem is. You can trade picks, players or a combo of both using Manage Draft Trades. The picks swaps should show under All Picks.
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| | | 253 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 18:15
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Does anyone know offhand how many games you need to play in the current year to qualify at a position in this league?
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| | | 254 | Tree
ID: 332391416
Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 18:25
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yahoo has that on the site. i believe it's 10 games started or 15 games played.
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| | | 255 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 18:41
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G1
All problems resolved except Stanton.
DO NOT DRAFT GIANCARLO STANTON
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| | | 256 | PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 19:03
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If I type in Stanton, Giancarlo it shows up for in the queue settings. Wonder why it won't let you put him on the team?
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| | | 257 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 19:12
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It would have if I had tried that before I locked in the rosters.
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| | | 258 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Wed, Mar 14, 2012, 23:39
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I woke up long enough to set a que for my first pick. Please don't go past that first one until I have woken up long enough to set a longer que. Also when auto drafting for me please don't take two players in a row from same position i.e. 2 SS in a row.
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| | | 259 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Thu, Mar 15, 2012, 01:22
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Tree has been added as co-commish in Kafenatid.
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| | | 260 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Thu, Mar 15, 2012, 01:40
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I woke up long enough to set a que for my first pick. Please don't go past that first one until I have woken up long enough to set a longer que. Also when auto drafting for me please don't take two players in a row from same position i.e. 2 SS in a row.
you can set pick specific queues where that pick will only draft from that specific queue.
you can ALSO set an overall queue. in every case, the pick-specific queue will override the overall one.
but, by setting the pick specific one, you can avoid the two of the same position in a row situation.
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| | | 261 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Thu, Mar 15, 2012, 04:40
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OK time to get the ques set so we can get this thing moving Thursday.
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| | | 262 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Thu, Mar 15, 2012, 09:12
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Unless there is an uprising:
Draft clock goes live 11AM EST and remains live till 11 PM EST.
I have tentatively set the clock at 1HR+30MIN till everyone makes their first pick and we see everyone is up to speed and then I expect we'll kick it up to an hour clock.
My position is to turn the clock off at Nerve's pick whenever it is nighttime in Bahrain.
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| | | 263 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Thu, Mar 15, 2012, 09:16
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I need contact telephone numbers for anyone who thinks they can't follow the draft every hour or who don't think they will have a functional queue at all times.
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| | | 264 | Nerve clinic
ID: 1923159
Thu, Mar 15, 2012, 10:03
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Bahrain??? Really Bahrain??? That's like telling someone who lives in San Francisco they live in Fresno. DUBAI my friend and it's like comparing a jewel to coal trust me.
8)
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| | | 265 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Thu, Mar 15, 2012, 10:23
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Yeah, well the clock's the same.
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| | | 266 | Nerve clinic
ID: 1923159
Thu, Mar 15, 2012, 11:01
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Yeah same time but one on a clock that is a Rolex and the other is one of those no name watches with a plastic wrist band.
No offense to any board members from Bahrain.
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| | | 267 | PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Thu, Mar 15, 2012, 11:12
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Does the plastic wrist band have a Mickey on it?
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| | | 268 | taxman
ID: 468322820
Thu, Mar 15, 2012, 18:19
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Are Bobo and jorgesags willing to leave contact cell numbers so they can be sent a text when they are up??
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| | | 269 | taxman
ID: 468322820
Thu, Mar 15, 2012, 18:28
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btw...starting Friday @ 2:00 PM, I will be w/o computer and someone will need to text me when I am up
again my cell is 512 8zero1 66zero5
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| | | 270 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Thu, Mar 15, 2012, 18:38
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Guys set your ques
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| | | 271 | biliruben
ID: 59551120
Thu, Mar 15, 2012, 18:50
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We are mulligan-ville. I vote we should grant, but if Bobo has a phone, someone ring it.
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| | | 272 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Thu, Mar 15, 2012, 18:53
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I am close to headed to bed but I have a 40+ player que. I actually fell asleep during my last pick but the que worked like a charm.
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| | | 273 | Tree
ID: 37226713
Thu, Mar 15, 2012, 18:58
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I'll text Bobo.
I think 1.5 hours is a bit short of a clock.
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| | | 274 | Bobo
ID: 121572919
Thu, Mar 15, 2012, 19:16
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Just about to make my next pick...sorry, my daughter had her final basketball game and I didn't activate my queue.
Won't happen again.
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| | | 275 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Thu, Mar 15, 2012, 20:43
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I have an 80 + player queue. I don't have it for te league to pick but I have it set for auto pick with a 30 minute delay. If I have auto pick turned on I assume there is no reason for the league to have access I assume. Hope that does work because I am headed to bed.
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| | | 276 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 06:56
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I've so far left the clock on 1.5 hrs. Does anyone think we should set it to one hour?
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| | | 277 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 08:22
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absolutely not. we're definitely going at a reasonable pace.
i still think 1.5 hours is too short.
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| | | 278 | Pancho Villa
ID: 597172916
Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 08:29
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We may have a problem. Jorge left yesterday for 4 days in his RV to do some 4-wheeling in a remote area of Southern Utah, then to Las Vegas on Saturday and home Sunday night.
He called me yesterday afternoon asking about the designated picker, which I walked him through, but it appears he didn't make it available. He's able to draft with his phone, but he might not have service until he leaves for Vegas on Saturday afternoon.
Is there some way a commish can go into Drafttime and make his que available? Otherwise, I fear he will miss numerous picks, as well as slowing up the draft everytime he's up.
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| | | 279 | Building 7
Leader
ID: 171572711
Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 09:16
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Can I go with him? Sounds like fun.
If the commish cannot do it, the Draftime owner probably can. Or you can get Jorge's password for Draftime via phone. He's going to miss about 5 picks by Saturday at the rate we're going.
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| | | 280 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 09:24
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Pancho can you find out what his password is and go in and set the que. I have been checking in every 20 minutes for the last few hours thinking he would be picking any minute now.
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| | | 281 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 09:30
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If his queue is set I believe I can force my way into it.
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| | | 282 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 09:32
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There you go Nerve. I assume you want to make your own pick instead of me using your Queue, Nerve.
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| | | 283 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 09:32
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You are so butch sometimes Baldwin look at you forcing your way in.
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| | | 284 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 09:35
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I'll give Nerve 15 minutes before exercising his queue.
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| | | 285 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 09:38
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done and Jorge is up again
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| | | 286 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 09:41
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Baldwin dont got anywhere he is up again.
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| | | 287 | Pancho Villa
ID: 597172916
Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 09:42
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I tried texting and calling him to no avail. He said he had some special G4 antenna on his RV, but it appears it's not working. He was going to give me his password, but didn't think it necessary, since he could access the site on his phone. He set me as a designated picker, but being unfamiliar with the site probably didn't realize it has to be made available.
Given the complexities of how we're set up with multiple websites, and given that Jorge inherited a team that truly sucks, it's inherent upon us to find a way to allow his team to not miss multiple picks. If we can't get into the site to make his que available, I suggest allowing me to pick for him here on rotoguru and have those picks entered on Draftime after the fact.
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| | | 288 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 09:46
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PV Boldwin got into his que. He just picked Hellickson for him. Hellickson was one of the next 4 p[icks in my queue so from my perspective it looks like he dd pretty well.
Boldwin can you update us? Did you get into his queue and will you be able to pick for him based on the que he left?
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| | | 289 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 09:56
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Yup, the only limitation will be the length of his queue and I'm not going to take a peek, assuming I could.
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| | | 290 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 09:59
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PV
If you leave me your phone # I'll consult with you if his queue goes off the rails and tries to do something unreasonable. I thot Hellickson and Madson were perfectly reasonable choices.
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| | | 291 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 10:00
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I thot Hellickson and Madson were perfectly reasonable choices.
I would say those two picks were a little bit too good for my taste. Can you go back and make a couple worse picks?
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| | | 292 | Pancho Villa
ID: 597172916
Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 10:03
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I usually only leave my phone # for people who want to buy upscale window treatments(think plantation shutters), but in this case I'll make an exception.
801 608-0275
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| | | 293 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 10:08
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Nerve...lol. Very good indeed.
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| | | 294 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 10:11
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Craziest league. Cespedes and Beachy already taken. How you gonna pick any sleepers when the sleepers are going at the same place in the draft as the established players already performing where you hope the sleepers will?
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| | | 295 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 10:13
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Taxman doesn't get out of computer range until 2PM today. See #269.
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| | | 296 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 10:23
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Baldwin according to ADP reports of the last 7 days Beachy is going 127 overall in drafts. I took him with the 126 pick overall, so I took him right where he has been going. I don't really think he's that much of a sleeper this spring, lots of people talking about him.
Cepedis isn't even in the top 250 ADP, probably because it's likely he starts the year in the minors, but I guess Tree is stacked enough he can afford to take chances this early in the draft on people who likely won't even play. Because believe me Tree is stacked with Lawrie and Jesus in his prospect list.
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| | | 297 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 10:25
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Boldwin makes his oldies but goodies pick...Tim Hudson
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| | | 298 | Tree
ID: 51219169
Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 10:26
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to me, Cespedes and Beachy went when they should have.
Cespedes has an ADP of 190 and Beachy has and ADP of 114.
Considering 98 keepers, Cespedes went at 143, and Beachy went in this draft at 126.
So, Beachy went late, imho. and Cespedes went early, but i also think this is the time when you take certain risks with reaches.
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| | | 299 | Tree
ID: 51219169
Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 10:27
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**IMPORTANT**
i believe the draft on draft time is too long. i'm showing it's 17 rounds.
our rosters have 21 players - with 7 keepers, the draft should only be 14 rounds.
correct me if i'm wrong on any of these?
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| | | 300 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 10:47
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I'm ok with agreeing to shorten the clock to one hour but there should be some decent interval to make sure everyone is aware before we do it.
Also draftime tracks the estimated time to finish the draft and we've been ahead of the season opener all draft so...why panic?
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| | | 301 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 10:50
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I think Tree is right should only be 14 rounds
I guess we are using different ADP Tree.
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| | | 302 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 10:50
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Hudson
Yeah, I'll take a guy with a 3.22 ERA 2.14 WHIP last year and you can take the next hype that comes along and hope he gets to that level.
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| | | 303 | Great One
ID: 340592712
Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 11:21
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Please take him.
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| | | 304 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 11:41
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My fifth pitcher. We'll see how your fifth pitcher finishes the season.
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| | | 305 | Great One
ID: 340592712
Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 11:52
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Well that's hard to compare, but I'll take Gio Gonzalez who you passed on to get Hudson.
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| | | 306 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 11:57
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Baldwin he has so many SP now and some positions not filled. Since you took 2 pitchers in a row do you think a third pitcher is best idea?
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| | | 307 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 12:09
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Yeah, I'll take a guy with a 3.22 ERA 2.14 WHIP last year
He definitely had a good year last year I am just worried about the surgery on his herniated disk at age 36...
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| | | 308 | Great One
ID: 340592712
Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 12:10
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Plus the fact he doesn't strike anybody out. Thats kind of a problem.
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| | | 309 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 12:30
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I am going out for a couple of hours. I have three individual queues set for my next 3 picks so there should not be a problem. I checked and all three are turned on. If my pick comes up please wait 10 minutes as I have I pad with me and may be able to pick. After 10 minutes you are free to use que.
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| | | 310 | Great One
ID: 340592712
Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 13:07
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Nerve, just a tip that might assist in this... (cause its risky that folks don't see your instructions) - you can switch the "No Auto Pick" to ON and it will give you an option to delay that automatic pick any set time you want.
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| | | 311 | Building 7
Leader
ID: 171572711
Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 14:22
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I wouldn't pick another starting pitcher for Jorge. No matter who is on top of his q. He has 5 now.
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| | | 312 | Great One
ID: 340592712
Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 14:42
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Agreed.
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| | | 313 | Nerve clinic
ID: 1923159
Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 14:48
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I made my pick sitting at a George Benson concert while my date rolled her eyes. 8)
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| | | 314 | Tree
ID: 152111614
Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 15:14
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i'm rolling my eyes at you for going to a George Benson concertm
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| | | 315 | Great One
ID: 340592712
Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 16:51
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I'm watching Benson on TV.
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| | | 316 | Building 7
Leader
ID: 171572711
Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 17:07
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| | | 317 | taxman
ID: 468322820
Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 17:45
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I'm gone till @ 9 PM CST. Left a 25 man queue set to auto pick
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| | | 318 | Pancho Villa
ID: 597172916
Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 18:45
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I sort of played on the same bill with George Benson on New Year's Eve 1980 in Lahaina, Maui.
I was playing upstairs at Love's, and Benson played the main floor that night.
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| | | 319 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 18:57
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Funeral at 7. Seven man queue is now a 5 man queue and shrinking fast.
I guess I should warn you that I am using my entire 90 minute auto-delay on the pick. Three of those picks in my queue do not address my most pressing positions so if my first two evaporate I'll need the time to think on it after the funeral.
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| | | 320 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 19:42
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i just moved the clock to 2.5 hours.
we are WAY ahead of schedule.
we have skipped plenty of people, which is something we've almost never done. i'm not keen on that.
the weekend is starting, and i'm going to move the clock to 4 hours for the weekend. maybe more.
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| | | 321 | Biliruben
ID: 358252515
Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 19:49
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My condolences Baldwin.
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| | | 322 | Pancho Villa
ID: 597172916
Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 19:59
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Tree, are you capable of making a pick for Jorge? He still has players in his que.
Condolences, B.
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| | | 323 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 20:25
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PV - it's showing me his queue is empty.
also, c1-NRB had a pick missed.
Baldwin - condolences and thoughts with you and your family.
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| | | 324 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 20:29
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correction. i can override and see his queue.
that being said, i really don't want to see us get too far ahead of c1-nrb's missed pick.
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| | | 325 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 21:00
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Obviously to anyone who knows me, it would never occur to me to go to see George Benson. The phone company that I have my mobile service with called me and offered me 2 free $85.00 tickets. Outdoors at the base of the Burj Khalifa, beautiful location and weather, so I thought what the hell.
It was boring as hell and frankly his voice is not what it used to be.
If I had it too do over, probably would not take the tickets even for free.
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| | | 326 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 21:06
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c1-nrb also has a queue. if he doesn't use it in an hour, i'm going to use both his and Jorge's.
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| | | 327 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 21:24
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my auto draft is on with 40 minutes delay. I am headed back to bed, sleeping lightly, checking periodically. 5 AM here.
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| | | 328 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 21:56
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George Benson...Witness.
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| | | 329 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 22:02
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Off to Appleby's with more family than I ever see in the same place at once. And I'm sick as a dog and wanna collapse comatose where I stand but ya gotta do what ya gotta do.
The last hour of my father-in-law's life he tells her as she's leaving, "Don't hug me, I'm sick."
But she hugs him anyway and he tells her she's a good kid and he starts singing 'put yer arms around me and hold me tight'.
Not a bad exit.
Except now my close family still has that cold to die from.
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| | | 330 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 22:21
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Hang in there Baldwin...
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| | | 331 | C1-NRB
ID: 42281120
Fri, Mar 16, 2012, 22:31
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c1-nrb also has a queue. if he doesn't use it in an hour, i'm going to use both his and Jorge's.
Sorry about that. I set it this morning and could've sworn it was on a short clock, just in case. Apparently not, though.
Thanks for keeping things moving.
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| | | 332 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Sat, Mar 17, 2012, 08:58
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I do not intend to pause the clock for the weekend.
Does that violate some understanding or tradition I am forgetting?
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| | | 333 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Sat, Mar 17, 2012, 09:17
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i say we pause it, or move it to 8 hours. there's no longer any rush, because we are way ahead of schedule.
it's the weekend, and i don't want to be tethered to my computer.
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| | | 334 | Great One
ID: 512531316
Sat, Mar 17, 2012, 09:36
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Yeah, weekend pauses are pretty standard. Doesn't matter to me cause I'm around this particular weekend but I could see other people could have things to do.
Why are we in such a rush anyway?
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| | | 335 | Pancho Villa
ID: 597172916
Sat, Mar 17, 2012, 09:43
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I think Jorge's plan was to break camp this morning and drive to Las Vegas, which means he should have phone service relatively early, as he's about an hour from St George. He'll have service from that point on. I would discourage having anyone make any more picks for him.
As Tree said, we're ahead of schedule. I say keep the weekend clock, set it at 4 hours.
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| | | 336 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Sat, Mar 17, 2012, 09:50
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Ok, I have to leave for 20 min immediately, but this next pick for Jorge will require consultation with PV, so patience.
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| | | 337 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Sat, Mar 17, 2012, 10:37
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Great One the issue isn't "being in a rush" It's when it's your turn and you keep checking in to see if the guy in front of you has picked yet, over and over and he takes hours to pick so you are constantly having to get back to a computer to check. That's the issue.
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| | | 338 | Myboyjack
ID: 36452617
Sat, Mar 17, 2012, 12:59
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nerve - agree.
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| | | 339 | biliruben
ID: 59551120
Sat, Mar 17, 2012, 18:17
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I'll pick within 10...
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| | | 340 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Sun, Mar 18, 2012, 11:33
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Jorge's next Q pick is a good one but it's a pitcher and Jorge needs a 3B atm? Agreed?
I am inclined to remove players from the draft pool until I uncover a 3B in his Q and pick that.
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Tried it and his first eight q picks are not 3B. I am inclined to wait Jorge out instead this weekend, unless PV feels like contacting him or picking a 3B for him.
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| | | 341 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Sun, Mar 18, 2012, 11:38
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Oops.
Double-check your Queues. I thot that putting the player back in the draft pool would make them appear again in the queues but that is not the case.
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| | | 342 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Sun, Mar 18, 2012, 11:54
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Can we pick things back up again?
Is someone working with PV to pick for Jorge? Has Jorge checked in from Vegas baby?
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| | | 343 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Sun, Mar 18, 2012, 12:08
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PV is trying to contact him atm.
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| | | 344 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Sun, Mar 18, 2012, 12:25
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I don't think everyone is ok with resuming any time preasure, Nerve. Feel free to take two or three hours between checkins. Set a long q auto-delay and try not to fret.
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| | | 345 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Sun, Mar 18, 2012, 12:26
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I don't think everyone is ok with resuming any time preasure on the weekend.
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| | | 346 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Sun, Mar 18, 2012, 17:38
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Fine, waited all day to make a pick but it wasn't meant to be.
Headed to sleep with a long delay on my auto pick.
Cheers
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| | | 347 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Sun, Mar 18, 2012, 22:55
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I could force Jorge's pick but there's no clock and he's been making his own picks recently. let's just wait for the clock to resume tomorrow.
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| | | 348 | Sags
ID: 422431823
Mon, Mar 19, 2012, 00:43
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I apologize if I delayed any of the draft because I was gone. I thought I would be able to draft my team with my cell phone. I made most of my pics that way, but once I got to the sand dunes, I lost all signal. I tried to amplify the signal, but I could not get anything. To further add to my failure, I could not successfully let Bob make my picks. Luckily, Boldwin was able to get to my queue and make picks for me. I setup my queue in advance at least. Thanks for sticking to my queue. I am pleased with the picks.
On another note, have any of you ever been to the sand dunes? I've suped-up my LTR 450 quite a bit and it thrashes and flies at the dunes.
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| | | 349 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Mon, Mar 19, 2012, 02:59
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Sags
Dubai is one big sand dune.
My friend has a 4 wheel drive SUV, Here it's called a Toyota Land Cruiser Prado but it's sold in the USA as a Lexus GX 470.
We take it off road into the desert. Lot's of fun until you get stuck. We had locals help pull us out on more then one occasion.
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| | | 350 | biliruben
ID: 59551120
Mon, Mar 19, 2012, 10:51
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Common sense suggests I need a few more arms, but after consultation with my 5 year-old, he recommended "A hitter who can hit it far. And a Dodger, because they are coming this spring."
I had to dig deep.
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| | | 351 | biliruben
ID: 59551120
Mon, Mar 19, 2012, 11:08
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And find a dude who's concussed. Dang.
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| | | 352 | Pancho Villa
ID: 597172916
Mon, Mar 19, 2012, 13:03
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Looks like Tree and GO are convinced Soria is going under as the Royal's closer.
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| | | 353 | Tree
ID: 12391912
Mon, Mar 19, 2012, 13:40
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Looks like Tree and GO are convinced Soria is going under as the Royal's closer.
i also like to take a solid middle reliever. Holland probably was my second choice until Soria's most recent injury woes.
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| | | 354 | Building 7
Leader
ID: 171572711
Mon, Mar 19, 2012, 14:17
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Bobo should have my pick 14.12.
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| | | 355 | PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Mon, Mar 19, 2012, 14:57
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Didn't it say that Sags had a Queue but wasn't avail before it was skipped?
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| | | 356 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Mon, Mar 19, 2012, 15:10
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Jorge has a queue and he has a pitcher at the top. He doesn't really need pitchers so I'm giving him a chance to take what he really needs. AFAIK I don't have carte blanche to force into his q and pick for him all draft long. That was just for that vacation period.
If PV suggests otherwise I'll operate his q.
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| | | 357 | Tree
ID: 202511914
Mon, Mar 19, 2012, 15:55
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Jorge has a queue and he has a pitcher at the top. He doesn't really need pitchers so I'm giving him a chance to take what he really needs.
then why are we skipping him.
at this point, we can slow the draft down a bit. we're a week ahead of schedule.
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| | | 358 | Sags
ID: 552481411
Mon, Mar 19, 2012, 16:02
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I was in a meeting. I got the guy I wanted anyway. No worries.
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| | | 359 | Tree
ID: 582331915
Mon, Mar 19, 2012, 17:33
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quick update - we're about to get hit with some bad storms here in north texas. already 17,000 without power. so, if you don't hear from me, my power is out. :o)
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| | | 360 | Tree
ID: 582331915
Mon, Mar 19, 2012, 17:37
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also - reminder - draft ends after round 15, not round 17, as draftime.com has it.
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| | | 361 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Mon, Mar 19, 2012, 17:44
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Wouldn't it be 7 keepers and 14 rounds?
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| | | 362 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Mon, Mar 19, 2012, 19:17
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then why are we skipping him
Cause we either have a clock or we don't.
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| | | 363 | Tree
ID: 582331915
Mon, Mar 19, 2012, 20:36
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maybe i miscalculated. i can't check now from work, but i'd be happy to double check later when i get home.
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| | | 364 | biliruben
ID: 59551120
Mon, Mar 19, 2012, 22:18
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14 rounds. I have a mere 2 spots left. One of them will be Son of Flash.
So I am down to my last pick.
Nice job fellas.
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| | | 365 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Mon, Mar 19, 2012, 22:21
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Baldwin is correct. 14 rounds it is.
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| | | 366 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Tue, Mar 20, 2012, 13:19
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calling up Brett Lawrie with pick 13.10.
anyone else who plans on calling up a prospect in this draft, let me or Baldwin know, and we can re-activate the player so you can pick him.
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| | | 367 | Building 7
Leader
ID: 171572711
Tue, Mar 20, 2012, 14:57
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Well I think I'm done. Bobo has my last pick. Good luck to everyone during the regular season.
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| | | 368 | Biliruben
ID: 358252515
Tue, Mar 20, 2012, 15:51
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I am calling up dee Gordon
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| | | 369 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Tue, Mar 20, 2012, 15:59
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Gordon is available now, bili.
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| | | 370 | Biliruben
ID: 358252515
Tue, Mar 20, 2012, 17:31
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Thsnks
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| | | 371 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Tue, Mar 20, 2012, 18:01
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calling up Jesus Montero with pick 14.10.
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| | | 372 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Tue, Mar 20, 2012, 18:27
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Are you feelin' it?
Baldwin is correct.
Hope and change. Change and hope. I'm kinda feelin' it.
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| | | 373 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Tue, Mar 20, 2012, 20:44
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Assuming it doesn't all crash, everyone's teams are entered except Nerve's last pick, and two players not on Yahoo's list yet, namely Taijuan Walker and Alfredo Silverio which effects Bobo's and bili's teams respectively.
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| | | 374 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Tue, Mar 20, 2012, 22:14
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I started our season on Yahoo, but please don't access the WW until we have word from Tree on that issue. He may want to set a starting time for that.
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| | | 375 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Tue, Mar 20, 2012, 22:53
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For the record, Jorge, the draft should have been stopped right before 15.01 [my bad] so there was no 15th pick for you and no Chipper Jones on your team.
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| | | 376 | Great One
ID: 512531316
Tue, Mar 20, 2012, 23:59
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Boldwin - did you figure out why it did that? it happened to me with Dirty Dozen too. Two extra rounds...
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| | | 377 | Nerve clinic
ID: 1923159
Wed, Mar 21, 2012, 00:11
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For the two players not in Yahoo the managers need to make a new pick.
Ww should be set with at least 24 hour delay if not 48 hour.
Don't forget to set waiver order which is opposite of draft order if I remember correctly?
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| | | 378 | biliruben
ID: 59551120
Wed, Mar 21, 2012, 00:23
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Attempting to observe the spirit of my boy's demand, I chose Jerry Sands instead.
Also, if someone has a full-time player with some power and is in need of a middle infielder, I seem to have amassed a bit of a collection, and a question mark at my second util spot.
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| | | 379 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Wed, Mar 21, 2012, 00:24
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Ok, I found a way to freeze the rosters from adds and drops while still allowing us to play with internal roster moves.
Tree will make a declaration when the WW is open and set the waiver priority.
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| | | 380 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Wed, Mar 21, 2012, 01:07
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waiver priority is reverse order of draft.
48 hour.
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| | | 381 | PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Wed, Mar 21, 2012, 01:19
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When are we starting the Prospect Draft?
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| | | 382 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Wed, Mar 21, 2012, 01:49
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Wow great job to the co commishes.
Very smooth draft under the circumstances. Also shocking that Baldwin was able to input almost all names into Yahoo finishing as the draft was ending.
Sublime.
Thanks for you hard work guys.
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| | | 383 | Pancho Villa
ID: 597172916
Wed, Mar 21, 2012, 09:35
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I'll echo nerve's sentiments in #382. Nice job Boldwin and Tree.
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| | | 384 | C1-NRB
ID: 451120913
Wed, Mar 21, 2012, 11:44
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Well done, indeed. It's a vernal equinox miracle!
What's next? Canine/Feline co-habitation? A balanced budget? I want to believe.
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| | | 385 | Bobo
ID: 121572919
Wed, Mar 21, 2012, 12:40
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If there was a player I drafted, but doesn't show up on Yahoo how is that tracked?
I am responsible?
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| | | 386 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Wed, Mar 21, 2012, 12:53
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Bobo you can only draft players who are in the yahoo system since that is the system we are using. The only thing you have to do is just pick a different FA player, you are not punished in any way it's just one of those things. Some times there are players that are for whatever reason are in draft time system that are not in yahoo.
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| | | 387 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Wed, Mar 21, 2012, 13:02
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I personally don't have any problem with saying that player is off limits to the rest of us and just wait till he is added to the yahoo database. We are done early and it may well be added before the season starts.
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| | | 388 | Tree
ID: 37226713
Wed, Mar 21, 2012, 13:12
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Ditto
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| | | 389 | Great One
ID: 340592712
Wed, Mar 21, 2012, 13:58
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If you guys want to "complete" the draft on Draftime I assume you'll need to do what I did in Dirty Dozen which is just pick random terrible players for everybody in the last two rounds. I suggest doing that so we can get this draft into the archive/history of Draftime.
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| | | 390 | Bobo
ID: 121572919
Wed, Mar 21, 2012, 20:58
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Thanks for the responses.
Is it possible to count him as one of my prospects ahead of that draft and forfeit a pick there?
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| | | 391 | Nerve clinic
ID: 1923159
Thu, Mar 22, 2012, 01:33
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I realize everyone is just trying to help here but aren't we opening a can of worms? The rule has always been we can't draft playersnontoxic In the yahoo data base. No one sees the problem with suddenly changing that rule?
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| | | 392 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Thu, Mar 22, 2012, 01:39
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OMG now comes the spectre of Mark Prior. Nerve is right on the money.
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| | | 393 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Thu, Mar 22, 2012, 01:49
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i think the dilemma, however, is that we're using Draftime to draft, and he was in THAT database.
at the very least, it's something worth reviewing, especially with newbies who didn't know the rule in question.
that being said, even if Bobo were to keep the player in question on his major league roster, i'm not sure that player would stick around that long. our benches are waaaay too small to hold onto a player that isn't going to play in MLB this season.
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| | | 394 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Thu, Mar 22, 2012, 02:16
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our benches are waaaay too small to hold onto a player that isn't...
Who are you and what have you done with Tree?
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| | | 395 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Thu, Mar 22, 2012, 02:20
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Anyone care to relive the conundrum that was Mark Prior, for our new managers' benefit?
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| | | 396 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Thu, Mar 22, 2012, 02:40
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So 14, (or was it 12 managers back in the day?) all went to the draft board weak kneed at the prospect of being the manager who got to pick Mark Prior before he ever pitched a major league pitch...wait for it...
...and those idiots at Yahoo had forgotten to put Prior on their list.The Prior era exploded in Chicago in 2002. In 19 starts, he pitched to a 3.32 ERA with six wins... on a 67-win team, nonetheless. Though the team looked weak, they clearly had their strength in years of control and promise with Mark Prior and Kerry Wood leading the rotation.
2003 was the beginning, middle and end of Mark Prior's "prime." He dominated, embarrassed and stunned National League hitters from Spring Training through the NLCS against the Marlins. His 2003 pitching line looked more like Pedro Martinez than that of a 22-year-old in his first full season: 2.43 ERA, 18-6 record, and 245 K's. For the winless Cubs no less.
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| | | 397 | biliruben
ID: 59551120
Thu, Mar 22, 2012, 03:29
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That would be a negatory, rfs. Prior rule dictates anyone not in yahoo at the time of the draft is eligible for drafting at the mythical time of the rookie draft and therefore is poison to the touch.
Correct me if I am wrong. 2003 Draft thread.
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| | | 400 | biliruben
ID: 59551120
Thu, Mar 22, 2012, 03:41
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Genesis
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| | | 401 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Thu, Mar 22, 2012, 10:11
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Spachalagu: what a gas that guy was. Except for his occasionally spam nuking threads there at the end, he was great fun. I seriously miss him here.
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| | | 402 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Thu, Mar 22, 2012, 10:16
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A guy who drove me to the one thing I've done on this board for which I would apologize heartily were he to ask for it. [and that's private between me and Spach]
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| | | 403 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Thu, Mar 22, 2012, 10:28
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lol. great threads. i think that was the year before i joined...
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| | | 404 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Thu, Mar 22, 2012, 11:24
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To be fair, Spach's entire body of work here which has evaporated, should not be weighed in the measure of a few day's meltdown. He was a relentless and usually skillful debater.
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| | | 405 | C1-NRB
ID: 451120913
Thu, Mar 22, 2012, 13:01
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When are we Prospecting?
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| | | 406 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Thu, Mar 22, 2012, 13:24
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As soon as I get done out-researching you. 8>
Just started getting over the virus from hell, tho I haven't begun to catch up on sleep. Patience, or Tree.
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| | | 407 | Building 7
Leader
ID: 171572711
Thu, Mar 22, 2012, 13:35
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Are you still analyzing the high school and college rosters? The Korean league? I swear I was going to pick Yu Darvish with my last pick last year. I saw him at the WBC a few years ago. I wasn't sure when he was coming to the US though. I should have looked into it further. It may not have helped though.
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| | | 408 | Great One
ID: 340592712
Thu, Mar 22, 2012, 13:45
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So what was decided for Bobos player issue?
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| | | 409 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Thu, Mar 22, 2012, 14:12
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The 'Prior Rule' states that you cannot pick a player not already in Yahoo's player database. He'll have to play the WW for a replacement.
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| | | 410 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Thu, Mar 22, 2012, 14:13
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Unless Tree decides to give him first crack at the WW. That could still happen I guess.
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| | | 411 | Great One
ID: 340592712
Thu, Mar 22, 2012, 14:18
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But did anyone provide that rule to him in advance so he was aware? I mean was it provided to him along with all the other rules of the league when he joined?
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| | | 412 | Tree
ID: 152402213
Thu, Mar 22, 2012, 14:43
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re 411 that's essentially my question.
one thing about this league is that we we've always tried to be fair to all owners - sometimes even bending our own rules to do so.
i personally view it as a no harm, no foul issue, and if Bobo wants to keep a guy on his bench that likely won't play this season, that's his prerogative.
as for Baldwin's our benches are waaaay too small to hold onto a player that isn't...
Who are you and what have you done with Tree?
i've always felt this way. it's why i wanted to add a "super prospect" category a few years back.
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| | | 413 | Great One
ID: 340592712
Thu, Mar 22, 2012, 14:55
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Our benches are definitely too small but that's another issue.
This is just another case of us needing one summarized list of rules so we don't have issues like this in the future. Eliminate the grey area.
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| | | 414 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Thu, Mar 22, 2012, 15:07
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Welcome back Toral!
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| | | 415 | C1-NRB
ID: 451120913
Thu, Mar 22, 2012, 17:15
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The 'Prior Rule' states that you cannot pick a player not already in Yahoo's player database.
I wasn't a member when the Prior Rule went into effect, but here's how it was explained to me:
Mark Prior wasn't in the database of draftable players. (Maybe the internet was young, I don't know.) The teams were loaded into Yahoo, which was BEFORE (or prior to, if you will) the Prospect draft starting. The offending manager-I don't know who it was- dropped a utility infielder or somesuch and nabbed Mark Prior off the waiver wire.
The timing was what was important- Mark Prior was picked up as an undrafted free agent before he was availlable as a Prospect. The Prior Rule was put into effect to prevent a manager from doing an end-around like that.
The current issue with Bobo doesn't seem subject to my interpretation of the Prior Rule. If Bobo drafted a player in the "real" draft and wants to sit on him all season and declare him as a keeper ad infinitum, so be it. He used a draft pick to do it. Is that where we're at?
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| | | 416 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Thu, Mar 22, 2012, 17:44
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And yeah verily did they not harken unto mighty Toral and his dwarven wonder, ONE RING TO RULE THEM ALL, and so he thence did take his mighty Ring of Nibelungen and go home.
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| | | 417 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Thu, Mar 22, 2012, 18:00
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C1 NRB
The rule in the league, and it's back there in the threads if anyone wants to go look, has always been, and discussed, and agreed on thusly...
We are playing fantasy baseball in a yahoo league, there fore you cannot draft a player in the regular draft who is not in the yahoo database, since he is not currently eligible in the system we are using. You have to fill 25 slots in the league for each team, if a player is not in database you only have 24 active slots.
This is to prevent for example... lets go back a couple years. Strasberg is coming up and is all the rage but everyone knows he is not playing as he's just been drafted and he is not in yahoo database. He will be eligible for the prospect draft and rightly belongs to the person with the first pick.
The person with the 10th prospect pick decides to do a slick block move and drafts Strasberg in the regular draft, even though he isn't playing and isn't even in the database.
So now the person who should get the top prospect pick doesn't because someone in the league has picked a player who is not even in the database of the system we are using for the regular season.
And the player who picked him can't fill his team because he doesn't have 25 players he has 24 and a 25th not in the database.
Is it possible to have a league where you play this way? I suppose. But you have to have 25 players on your team and the player isn't in the system so you cannot fill your spot and therefore the league cannot start. Should you get a 26th player? To fill the slot? since you picked a player not in the system?
You see the problems this creates?
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| | | 418 | Tree
ID: 412292217
Thu, Mar 22, 2012, 18:32
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But you have to have 25 players on your team and the player isn't in the system so you cannot fill your spot and therefore the league cannot start. Should you get a 26th player? To fill the slot? since you picked a player not in the system?
other leagues use placeholders - players who never in a million years are going to be fantasy relevant.
never mind that you don't have to have 25 players. there's no rule that states that.
my concern here is that Bobo was not made aware of the rule prior to drafting the player not in Yahoo.
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| | | 419 | C1-NRB
ID: 42281120
Thu, Mar 22, 2012, 18:41
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nerve- I see what you're saying and have a better grasp on the rule now. I had interpreted it wrong. Thanks for breaking it down.
It's too late to revamp the rule this year and that it wasn't fully explained to Bobo.
That being said, we should apply the rule as it stands. This isn't TEGWAR, even though it might seem like it to Bobo.
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| | | 420 | Great One
ID: 512531316
Thu, Mar 22, 2012, 18:46
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If you really need an perfect 25, you just use a random placeholder like many other league I've ever played. If Roy Oswalt wasn't in the system then I just note on the home page that I currently have Kyle Waldrop = Oswalt. If someone wants to add Kyle Waldrop for some ungodly reason then please let us know.
Or just leave an empty spot? why does the 25th guy need to even be filled?
And yes, the issue is a lack of clear communication of the rules.
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| | | 421 | Great One
ID: 512531316
Thu, Mar 22, 2012, 18:51
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Maybe it would be advisable to move the prospect draft to right after the real MLB Draft like G20 does which will close some of the loopholes nerve mentioned were part of the rule.
And nobody in that current MLB draft could be picked up until after the prospect draft was complete.
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| | | 422 | taxman
ID: 21281010
Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 02:19
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agree with C1-NRB (post 419) lets move on
It's tough on 1st year players Bobo, but $hit happens and we need to move on. All newbies and some returning managers screw up...I didn't keep up with innings pitched and lost Hellickson last summer. My bad and, btw, $hit happens
I think prospect draft should be held before season starts as it has for the past 4-5 years. If you like a player that might get drafterd this summer..grab him, but let's try to keep some semblance of continuity..Please strt the prospect draft ASAP.
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| | | 423 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 06:02
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WTF
Hey Commish...es
I am trying to add a free agent. Waiver period is over. Players are listed as free agents, and I am getting an error message that says "You may not add anybody because the commissioner has locked your add capability."
Not a good way to start the FA season. People who show up early should be rewarded instead I am locked out.
Can you please straighten this out?
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| | | 424 | PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 06:25
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Yeah if it's still locked then there should be a new delay put on the Waivers, because it would be bullshit if it's unlocked and whoever is around at that second can add whoever they want.
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| | | 425 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 08:19
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ok, here's what i'm thinking.
1. i am inclined to allow Bobo the player drafted, as he was rushed into this without all the rules properly explained. I want Baldwin's thoughts on this, and if he agrees, that's simple enough. if not, then i believe bobo should get a re-pick before Free Agency is opened up. i'm ok with either of these options.
2. i also agree with Punk - once unlocked there needs to be a delay on Waivers.
(also - i didn't lock the free agents, not sure if Baldwin did. if neither of us did, what an odd default for Yahoo to have)
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| | | 426 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 08:26
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ok. trying to find where to re-set all the waiver dates, and i don't see a place to do that, so that may not happen.
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| | | 427 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 08:31
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It's not a default. I have been playing on Yahoo for 10+ years. I have never seen this before.
The Bobo situation should have nothing to do with the waiver. It's a separate issue.
It effects the credibility of the league, if we have a waiver, then it ends and no one can make moves, then you put it back on etc. I am trying to make moves right now that can effect my season based on the waiver time we were given. Especially crucial for me since I have #1 waiver spot so didn't want to waste it on a non spectacular move.
There should have been a 2 day waiver that is off now and we should be able to make moves I don't understand what's happened. Either Baldwin has done something or there is something wrong with Yahoo.
So what are you going to do give Bobo a player not even in the system and then put a placeholder on his bench? Who is the player anyway?
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| | | 428 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 08:32
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If you reset it make it for one more day not two. We have already had a two day waiver period.
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| | | 430 | Great One
ID: 340592712
Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 09:07
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I'm not sure what happened here with people being locked - did you not "Begin Season" yet? and if not there should be an option for how FA's are handled after that point i.e. everyone is a free agent, or everyone is on waivers (pick # of days)... did none of those happen?
We got kind of screwed up in Dirty Dozen too trying to use the keeper tools and did Begin Season too early and had to add our own guys... now everyone is a FA, so we are just saying Noon EST today everyone is available as a FA so at least we have a set time.
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| | | 431 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 09:12
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Great One the Free Agents have been on waivers for the last two + days. If you went to the free agent pool yesterday it said "W not available until 3/23" Now when you go there it says FA not W and there is a lock, and when you try to pick up a player it says the league commish is not allowing you to add players. That is the message you get.
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| | | 432 | Great One
ID: 340592712
Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 09:26
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The only place I ever could do that was under Lock Teams. That doesn't make much sense. Not sure why it would do that.
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| | | 433 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 09:39
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Tree why did you change the trade deadline from mid August where it's always been to early September where it's never been. That is a league decision not a commish dictate as it's a league rule that would have to be approved by more then half the league.
Late trade deadlines mean that the competitive integrity of the league can be greatly damaged by players handing a championship in a close race to a team.
Please reset the trade deadline where it has been for the last 10 years. Or ask the league to take a vote for next year as rules have to be voted on for the next year.
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| | | 434 | Great One
ID: 340592712
Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 09:45
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Thanks for the reminder to move my trade deadlines out to Sept.
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| | | 435 | Tree
ID: 58226239
Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 10:33
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It's not a default. I have been playing on Yahoo for 10+ years. I have never seen this before.
ditto. that's why i am perplexed by it, unless Baldwin set it up this way.
The Bobo situation should have nothing to do with the waiver. It's a separate issue.
they are related. if we're not allowing Bobo to keep his draft pick, he should have a chance to re-pick before free agency opens up.
So what are you going to do give Bobo a player not even in the system and then put a placeholder on his bench? Who is the player anyway?
off the top of my head, i don't remember. but it's a guy who's not likely to see time on a MLB roster this season. strong prospect, but as Bobo will learn, it'll be tough to carry a player like that all season.
Tree why did you change the trade deadline from mid August where it's always been to early September where it's never been. That is a league decision not a commish dictate as it's a league rule that would have to be approved by more then half the league.
Late trade deadlines mean that the competitive integrity of the league can be greatly damaged by players handing a championship in a close race to a team.
Please reset the trade deadline where it has been for the last 10 years. Or ask the league to take a vote for next year as rules have to be voted on for the next year.
i don't see how a late trade deadline effects anything of the sort. i actually don't remember when previous deadlines have been in this league - i just know that every other league i've played in had a trade deadline as late as possible, and i presumed it was an error in this league that it was set for August.
i'm ok with discussing it - heck, even voting on it - but when's the last time a vote in this league had even half the league members actually cast a vote? if we're requiring half the league to vote in favor of something, then nothing will EVER pass in this league again.
but, again, open for discussion, and how a late trade deadline affects the integrity of the league.
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| | | 436 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 10:35
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"Thanks for the reminder to move my trade deadlines out to Sept."
LOL
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| | | 437 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 10:46
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but when's the last time a vote in this league had even half the league members actually cast a vote? if we're requiring half the league to vote in favor of something, then nothing will EVER pass in this league again.
Well if you can't get half the people in the league to vote for it then it would stay as before.
I think the reason people haven't been voting recently is they are simply not passionate about the particular issues.
The reason Major league baseball ends trading in late July is that as teams get closer to the end of the season, if they are out of it, they are more likely to make lopsided trades since it's of no value to them not to.
For the record I do remember when the deadlines have been, around mid August.
ESPN standard league trade deadline August 10th.
Yahoo standard Aug 19th
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| | | 438 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 10:49
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Last year for example was Aug 15th which can be verified in this thread...
link
Post 754
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| | | 439 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 11:01
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1) If we hear no objections I don't have a hard time with letting Bobo get a first pick before opening the WW.
2) Understand that this loose gentlemanly approach works well with most poliboard posters but drives some rule chasing anal types wild and is the sort of thing that keeps us from having a rigorous rule book and causes us a loss of a Toral calibre manager occasionally.
3) I locked the WW without knowing how to set it up early on just to prevent disorganized early pickups. I assumed Tree knew how to operate that and had more experience. I haven't commished in four or more years.
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| | | 440 | Tree
ID: 58226239
Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 11:03
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Well if you can't get half the people in the league to vote for it then it would stay as before.
my point is that we can't even get half the people in the league to VOTE, period. and that's a problem.
The reason Major league baseball ends trading in late July is that as teams get closer to the end of the season, if they are out of it, they are more likely to make lopsided trades since it's of no value to them not to.
we've not really had that problem in this league. in fact, i think it's just the opposite - we've had owners of teams out of it that REFUSE to make trades that would better their team in the long run. that, to me, is as big a problem as any lopsided trade.
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| | | 441 | Great One
ID: 340592712
Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 11:04
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Yeah, and any league I've ever been in any sport always change them to the latest possible date. 2 MLB leagues I think we hold in high regard are the latest possible date - G20 (Sept 1st) and Guru's RIBC (Sept 2).
I'd rather have people who are out of contention not just quit paying attention 2 months before the season ends cause they can't do anything to improve their keeper situation any longer.
A keeper league should be later than a non-keeper league too for just that reason. Give those out of contention longer window to improve their team heading into the offseason.
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| | | 442 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 11:14
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we've not really had that problem in this league.
Oh jeez Tree I wasn't going to go there but you won the championship by trading next years draft pick for not one but 2 solid closers at the deadline.
You were middle of the pack in saves and in 3rd place in the league. That move at the deadline secured the title for you. You ended up winning the saves category. Without it you would not have won.
So excuse me for rolling my eyes when you say it hasn't happened in this league and yes I am still bitter about it and yes it's why I am defensive about the issue.
In any case sounds like GO wants Sept also so you already have 2 of the 8 votes needed.
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| | | 443 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 11:22
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I'm happier with our usual Aug 15.
Just my one vote. Not speaking as commish.
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| | | 444 | Great One
ID: 340592712
Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 11:23
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Isn't that the whole point of the trade deadline and trading for assets in a keeper league? That sounds like the perfect trade to improve your team and win a league for one side and to pick up draft picks and improve the lesser team on the other side. Isn't that why when I propose a trade in Yahoo it has the drop down to add draft picks? cause its a keeper league and that's what you do?
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| | | 445 | C1-NRB
ID: 451120913
Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 11:26
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my point is that we can't even get half the people in the league to VOTE, period. and that's a problem.
And this is a Politics Forum.
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| | | 446 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 11:27
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Well, no one is against trades. We are against making favoritism the deciding factor in championships.
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| | | 447 | Great One
ID: 340592712
Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 11:31
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If I need a closer in August, why wouldn't I trade like a 2nd round pick for the last place guys closer? That's common sense for both teams. Both teams improve. That's Basic Keeper Trading 101.
If you are saying that there was collusion or something I guess that's different story, but regardless both sides paid so it was a balanced trade. Are you saying they had the same offer with another team and went with Tree instead cause they favorited him?
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| | | 448 | Tree
ID: 492382310
Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 11:47
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Oh jeez Tree I wasn't going to go there but you won the championship by trading next years draft pick for not one but 2 solid closers at the deadline.
and how was that lopsided??? it helped a good team win a championship and gave a crappy team the potential to rebuild with an extra first round pick - that is the ESSENCE of a non-contender and a contender making a trade.
my only regret about that trade is that the unfair ration of $hit of the non-contending owner got after making the deal caused him to NOT trade a retiring closer to a contender the following season for draft picks, and i believe it ultimately is why he left this league.
NC - you're bitter because it cost you a championship. there was nothing unfair nor illegal nor collusional about that trade. it is the absolute essence of how a trade should work in a keeper league.
non contender trades away two closers it likely won't keep in return for a first round draft pick.
contender trades away a first round pick for two closers it hopes will win a championship.
that's the whole point of trading in a keeper league!!
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| | | 449 | taxman
ID: 468322820
Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 13:41
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post 443..I like August 15th trade deadline same as Baldwin (who has performed commish duties admirably, as has Tree .. a break through in détente)
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| | | 450 | biliruben
ID: 59551120
Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 14:22
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I agree with Tree that there was nothing wrong with the closer trade.
I agree with Nerve that you can't just change the date by fiat. Leave it the 15th. That's my opinion as well as my vote.
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| | | 451 | biliruben
ID: 59551120
Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 14:30
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Is it okay to start adding and dropping, or no?
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| | | 452 | Tree
ID: 502292313
Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 14:38
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adds/drops - i'm trying to figure out how to put everyone back on the waiver wire so it's an equal start. if i can't do that, i'll pick a time where it's "GO!"
trade deadline - ok. August 15. fine. no problem, seems odd to me and makes a good reason for losing teams to stop trying, but we can discuss changes for next season.
Bobo - i'll put some random player on his roster to hold the spot of Taijuan Walker. as i said, i don't expect Bobo to hold onto him for very long, due to our short benches. if he does, he does.
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| | | 453 | Tree
ID: 502292313
Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 14:46
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ok, i can't find a way to reset waivers.
i'm going to unlock everyone, BUT ADD/DROP BEGINS TOMORROW, SATURDAY, MARCH 24, AT 12 NOON EASTERN.
please don't pick anyone up before then.
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| | | 454 | biliruben
ID: 59551120
Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 14:48
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Sounds good.
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| | | 455 | Bobo
ID: 54133289
Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 15:40
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Okay...just got caught up on the conversation (and sorry for not checking back and chiming in too).
I have no problem of not retaining Walker at this point. I take the responsibility for drafting a player who was likely not MLB ready this season in that draft.
Also, I don't have any problem just taking whatever my "regular" starting place in the WW order would be to make an add to balance out my team. I haven't looked, but I imagine that is where I would drop whoever Tree assigns me as the current "holder."
As for future prospect drafts, I recognize we are getting set to do here one shortly, but beyond that and for the future I would like to see those drafts occur in either August (all newly drafted players from June must be signed by mid-month or so) or in December (which is when a lot of post-peason prospect talk comes out ahead of the new season).
Since I've only been part of this group for the last few weeks, you'll need to help me understand how much or how little conversation around the league, etc. occurs once the Yahoo season ends.
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| | | 456 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 16:48
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and how was that lopsided??? it helped a good team win a championship and gave a crappy team the potential to rebuild with an extra first round pick - that is the ESSENCE of a non-contender and a contender making a trade.
That is just too many category points to get for one pick. You could add 8-10 points in the saves category for one pick? Assuming you had that many to pick up.
What hitter could you pick up and add 8 points and who would say that was fair compensation for a single future pick? Would you say getting two Pujols was fair compensation for a first rounder?
I'm with Nerve. In my estimation that was taking advantage of an easily used manager and it was a trade I would have no trouble voting to disallow.
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| | | 457 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 16:55
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You have nothing whatsoever to apologize for, Bobo.
Communication in this league is quite spotty. Very intense some weeks. Nothing next week. Trading has been spotty. Most managers are smart as whips and just will not give up a trade without clearly winning the best of it. A few managers have been taken to the cleaners and aggressive traders have used them badly. Hopefully agressive traders will find less soft spots as IMO it degrades the league to have an ubermaxi begging all day long trader or two getting the farm handed to them and the rest can't find a trade to save their lives.
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| | | 458 | Tree
ID: 552232316
Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 17:31
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That is just too many category points to get for one pick. You could add 8-10 points in the saves category for one pick? Assuming you had that many to pick up.
a manager with no chance of winning picked up a first round draft pick, to help build for the future. neither closer would have been a key component of his team the following season.
that is the scope of the deal.
What hitter could you pick up and add 8 points and who would say that was fair compensation for a single future pick? Would you say getting two Pujols was fair compensation for a first rounder?
you're going to compare two closers (a position rarely kept) to two Pujols (a perpetual top 3 draft choice in redraft leagues and a perennial keeper in keeper leagues) in a keeper league?
some people around here forget we're in a keeper league.
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| | | 459 | PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 17:34
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Since the whole waiver thing is dueced up to start the season why don't you just have a date/time like you said Noon Tomorrow where everyone has to email you a list of who they would prefer? At this point making it Noon/24th means whoever isn't avail then is SOL when if there was a hold on them you could make your list on Yahoo.
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| | | 460 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 17:52
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Tree
Show me any combination of batters you should be able to trade for, using only one first rounder, who would give you 8 extra points, and tell me that's a fair trade.
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| | | 461 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 18:01
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How about two 50 steal batters? Could boost a guy from last place SB to 8 pts. Is that fair for a first rounder? Not likely. Give me Crawford and Gardner for my first pick then.
You are hung up on the results and how the guy who traded away the closers had nothing to play for so why did he need the value? That belies the intrinsic value of both sides of the deal without regard to the results and is just another way of saying 'I ripped off a noob who didn't care' imo.
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| | | 462 | Tree
ID: 202162317
Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 18:48
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Show me any combination of batters you should be able to trade for, using only one first rounder, who would give you 8 extra points, and tell me that's a fair trade.
it would vary category to category, season to season, and you'd have no way of knowing ahead of time.
i took a risk trading a first round pick for two closers, but it was a risk worth taking because i was in contention. if i hadn't won, it would have been for naught.
You are hung up on the results and how the guy who traded away the closers had nothing to play for so why did he need the value?
um, welcome to sports? and i'm not hung up on the fact he had nothing to play for, rather the opposite. he had EVERYTHING to play for, just not that season. so, for him, it made sense to build for the future.
this is a classic-style trade. it's baffling to me why someone would think a non-contending team trading two non-keepers for a first rounder is a bad thing.
That belies the intrinsic value of both sides of the deal without regard to the results and is just another way of saying 'I ripped off a noob who didn't care' imo.
the player who traded the two closers was hardly a noob.
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| | | 463 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 18:58
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Fine. I have a standing offer. All season long. Anyone. My first rounder for your two fulltime closers.
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| | | 464 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 19:15
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tree it was a fair trade.
I didn't intend to imply otherwise.
I just think the closer you get to the end of the season the wackier the trades can get.
and you mentioned... it never has happened in our league.
It was a fair trade and congrats to you for pulling off the championship with it.
No one can argue it wasn't fair.
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| | | 465 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 19:18
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Personally I think Bobo should get to pick any player in the free agent pool he wants before the FA are released but thats just my opinion.
Cheers
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| | | 466 | Great One
ID: 36214199
Fri, Mar 23, 2012, 23:30
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I think nerves suggestion is fair. Let him choose whoever.
And then like punk said just pick a time that its open season on free agents like monday noon est or midnight whatever it is.
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| | | 467 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Sat, Mar 24, 2012, 12:08
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So has Bobo picked a player?
Can we please get this settled so we can move on?
It's after 12 noon are we free to pick off waivers?
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| | | 468 | Tree
ID: 37226713
Sat, Mar 24, 2012, 12:35
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Free agency started at noon. Bobo gets to keep his draft pick.
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| | | 469 | taxman
ID: 468322820
Sat, Mar 24, 2012, 18:02
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I would suggest that prospect keepers be listed on yahoo via post to League messages, which can be updated when we complete prospect draft...or they should be listed [n a seperate thread here so that we don't pick someone elses prospect keeper
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| | | 470 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Sat, Mar 24, 2012, 18:41
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We've always run a no-clock draft here at Rotoguru.
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| | | 471 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Sat, Mar 24, 2012, 20:07
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Jorge hit the Madson/Storen jackpot. Wow. Good thing he's on a rebuilding project that will take more than a year.
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| | | 472 | taxman
ID: 21281010
Sat, Mar 24, 2012, 22:02
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hello..listing of Prospect keepers to avoid being picked by another manager????
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| | | 473 | Nerveclinic
ID: 52134819
Sun, Mar 25, 2012, 01:06
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Dear Commish...es
Have decided not to have a prospect draft this year?
Sincerely,
Nerve
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| | | 474 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Sun, Mar 25, 2012, 04:29
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I'm wondering why you didn't channel all this enthusiasm into a turn at the commish job yourself, Nerve.
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| | | 475 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Sun, Mar 25, 2012, 11:17
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I thought we sort of agreed earlier that all prospects fall under the new rules starting this year and can be brought up and down?
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| | | 476 | Building 7
Leader
ID: 171572711
Sun, Mar 25, 2012, 11:34
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I don't recall the league voting on that rule change.
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| | | 477 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Sun, Mar 25, 2012, 12:23
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My understanding according to the 'fix everyone except Boldwin' rule change, was that prospects taken during the Strasburg era could only be called up once but everyone drafted more recently could be used like an actual farmhand over and over as needed without losing prospect keeper status on your team.
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| | | 478 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Sun, Mar 25, 2012, 12:30
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I'm wondering why you didn't channel all this enthusiasm into a turn at the commish job yourself, Nerve.
ditto.
relax bud. you got two guys who volunteered to co-commish because no one else wanted to do it.
part of me taking this gig was a promise to myself to not let it consume me.
475 - 477. there was no vote on the old vs. new prospects in regards to calling them up.
i'm of the belief that voting in this league is useless. we can't get half the league to vote, and because of that, nothing will ever change unless we just make it so.
good example is draftime. we had a HEATED discussed about it last year. i put it to vote. there's even a thread devoted to it. couldn't get the rule to pass.
but ya know what? we did it anyway.
i'm of the belief that all prospects need to now be under the current rule, because i'm not feeling like i want to keep track of such things. sounds lazy, but that's what it is.
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| | | 479 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Sun, Mar 25, 2012, 12:41
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I was even for that interpretation the year I had to carry a one-armed 30IP Strasburg prospect keeper on my regular team all year.
But keeping track of that was more fun I guess.
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| | | 480 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Sun, Mar 25, 2012, 12:43
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To put a point on it, Of course Tree shouldn't have to calculate every prospect keeper who was drafted before or the same year Strasburg was drafted.
And of course it truly was the 'fix everyone except the conservative' rule.
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| | | 481 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Sun, Mar 25, 2012, 13:05
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And of course it truly was the 'fix everyone except the conservative' rule.
come on man, we've done well to keep politics out of this lately.
i'm not motivated enough to go back and look through the discussions, but i'm pretty sure i stated back then - and i still believe - that you unquestionably got the short end of the stick and got screwed with the Strasburg situation. it was unfortunate, but the rule wasn't even designed with him in mind - it was designed, at least in my way, as some what of a way to lengthen our short benches.
i still think that because of our prospect rules, and because of our short bench, we don't really get a chance to enjoy our prospects. i'm curious as to how many top prospects have actually stuck with the teams that drafted them in this league.
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| | | 482 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Sun, Mar 25, 2012, 13:08
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Well and I think the issue was having the rule the first year because otherwise it was a possible advantage to someone passed on what prospects he kept but now that we are a year into it, that advantage is non existent.
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| | | 483 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Sun, Mar 25, 2012, 13:21
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See the problem is that it made perfect sense to keep track of the Strasburgs. That was the deal for screwing us over who had Strasburgs which was who? Anyone else get shafted bigtime? You couldn't have a two tier set of prospect keepers without keeping track of them.
But as soon I spend a midround draft pick repicking Strasburg and seeing him put back on the market, and losing a place on my roster...
...the very next year keeping track of the two tiers is ludicrous.
So rather than poisoning the well I'm all for dropping the two tiers...
1) But understand why we need some semblance of left/right balance, so that it doesn't just seem reasonable to shaft the conservative.
2) Operate with fairness and self-knowlege and not giggling when the chance comes up to screw Boldwin.
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| | | 484 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Sun, Mar 25, 2012, 14:01
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no one screwed you. it's fantasy baseball for god's sake, and if you think someone is out to screw you in fantasy baseball because of your political beliefs, you really should stop doing anything with the intent of having fun. seriously.
this is something for fun. fun. f-u-n.
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| | | 485 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Sun, Mar 25, 2012, 14:22
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Why didn't it occur to everyone two years ago that keeping track of the two sets of prospect keepers was a bad idea and that they all should be treated like a real farm system?
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| | | 486 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Sun, Mar 25, 2012, 14:31
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Why didn't it occur to everyone two years ago that keeping track of the two sets of prospect keepers was a bad idea and that they all should be treated like a real farm system?
why does my dog prefer wood floors to carpeted ones. why did my last phone just random stop working? why does my dog pee on her pee pad but poop on the floor 6 inches away?
things happen, and they often happen without conspiracy, reason, or a desire to screw somebody out of something.
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| | | 487 | C1-NRB
ID: 42281120
Sun, Mar 25, 2012, 14:41
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We are having fun here, no?
I thought the "new" prospect rule had passed, also.
How about we make the Prospect Rule sort of like the "Rule 5." A prospect remains a manager's "exclusive" property until he reaches the non-prospect threshold. Meaning- a manager can call up and send down (cut) any prospect as often as wish. BUT: Once a prospect isn't a prospect any more (125 IP or 300 AB), if he gets cut he is fair game on the waiver wire.
And for housekeeping purposes make it retroactive immediately- all prospects are under the "new" rule.
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| | | 488 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Sun, Mar 25, 2012, 15:26
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I think that is the current rule.
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| | | 489 | Building 7
Leader
ID: 171572711
Sun, Mar 25, 2012, 15:39
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If you're going to change a rule, there should be a vote on it. What is your reason for changing the rule? Old prospects and new prospects are identified in the prospect draft thread. You should have proposed the rule change before prospects were declared, not a week later. Some people got rid of some of their old prospects, because the rules were better for new prospects.
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| | | 490 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Sun, Mar 25, 2012, 16:50
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Some people got rid of some of their old prospects because the rules were better for new prospects.
Such as? Maybe you've got a point.
C1-NRB is describing the new set of prospect rules for new prospects correctly. Since we haven't voted on the old set I'm up for voting on it, but I don't know who you are gonna get to run the old regime for the old prospects.
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| | | 491 | PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Sun, Mar 25, 2012, 16:55
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So um how about instead of bitching about voting, we take a vote about prospect rules...
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| | | 492 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Sun, Mar 25, 2012, 18:41
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Someone volunteer to dredge up the names of all the old prospects still on prospect keeper lists. Vote him in as a co-commish and he can put it up to a vote if we keep the two tier prospect keeper system intact. If it wins, he can administer it.
Who was that who was most enthused about maintaining the old system until the last early prospect keeper dies? I nominate him.
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| | | 493 | Building 7
Leader
ID: 171572711
Sun, Mar 25, 2012, 19:29
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The list of old prospects is already available in the prospect draft thread. The old prospects have two asterisks after their name.
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| | | 494 | PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Sun, Mar 25, 2012, 19:54
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A) All prospects are under the same rules, can be called up and down while under the thresholds to stay a prospect.
B) Keep pre/post prospect rules, only calling up pre once before losing them.
C) Create a new prospect system
D) What's a prospect?
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| | | 495 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Sun, Mar 25, 2012, 20:24
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First, do you have an administrator volunteering to administer the old regime? Ya'know before you vote to use the old regime?
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| | | 496 | Building 7
Leader
ID: 171572711
Sun, Mar 25, 2012, 20:25
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Does Jorge know its his turn to pick in the prospect draft? I think we're starting it. A new thread was created.
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| | | 497 | Pancho Villa
ID: 597172916
Sun, Mar 25, 2012, 21:03
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I just texted Jorge.
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| | | 498 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Mon, Mar 26, 2012, 10:29
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If people can't be bothered to pick we should just start skipping them. Please be aware though that from approx 4pm until 12Am eastern time I am asleep here in Dubai and I don't really want to leave a 10 person queue.
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| | | 499 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Mon, Mar 26, 2012, 10:31
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It's been Bobo turn for 8 hours +.
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| | | 500 | Coldwater coyotes
ID: 55229323
Mon, Mar 26, 2012, 10:58
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Screw up already. I picked up Viciedo. Yikes. Dropped him a little later when I realized he could be a prospect. Couldn't we expand each team's roster by 5 and put the prospects in teams if they are in the Yahoo availables?
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| | | 501 | Tree
ID: 342202610
Mon, Mar 26, 2012, 11:21
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CC - i think that opens up a bigger can of worms. someone might forget that their empty roster spot is meant for a prospect, and pick someone up and use them.
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| | | 502 | Bobo
ID: 121572919
Mon, Mar 26, 2012, 12:00
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Sorry all - pick made and I am on it.
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| | | 503 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Tue, Mar 27, 2012, 10:11
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If anyone wants a telephone heads-up when he is up in the prospect draft I only have 2 phone numbers so far. PV and Taxman. Unless you are as paranoid as Tree, just leave it posted here, perhaps in the manner of post#23 for some security.
Taxman has just been called and is picking atm and I will have mine up immediately after.
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| | | 504 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Tue, Mar 27, 2012, 13:59
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Does anyone have MBJ's phone#?
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| | | 505 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Tue, Mar 27, 2012, 23:39
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Barring a total revolt I move that we institute a 3 hour clock for picks tomorrow after Nerve does the final first rounder.
Eleven to eleven EST. Going by the time stamp on the posts in the PKD thread.
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| | | 506 | biliruben
ID: 59551120
Wed, Mar 28, 2012, 00:23
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I'll be traveling all tomorrow, and then off Thursday to a memorial rocket launch. I'll do my best, but you buds may have to wait.
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| | | 507 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Wed, Mar 28, 2012, 04:35
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What's the consensus? bili get's the day off or we insist he leave a contact number or insist bili draft by his iphone or we draft around him?
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| | | 508 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Wed, Mar 28, 2012, 04:53
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it's the prospect draft. we're fine.
Punk - funny you picked d'Arnaud. i was going back and forth between Bundy and him, hopeful d'Arnaud would stay under the radar until my next pick.
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| | | 509 | PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Wed, Mar 28, 2012, 07:24
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I figured he wouldn't last again so ended up doing it. He was hitting the cover off the ball when I saw him the a few weeks ago. While the Jays were hitting BP before the game he cranked 5 out onto the Berm in Lakeland. Now if only we had a Prospect Dream Team.
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| | | 510 | Nerveclinic
ID: 52134819
Wed, Mar 28, 2012, 10:22
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Guys it's 620pm here. I left the house at 8 am this morning and have not been at my computer. I will be back within 45 minutes. I did not expect to be gone all day but work piled up. Sincere apologies.
Nerve
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| | | 511 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Wed, Mar 28, 2012, 10:43
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As I recall people are a lot less anal with the picks after their first prospect. I think we should consider a clock for the later rounds.
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| | | 512 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Wed, Mar 28, 2012, 10:51
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it's the prospect draft. there are no later rounds. only two full rounds, a third partial round, and then three picks combined in rounds 4 and 5.
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| | | 513 | Bobo
ID: 54133289
Wed, Mar 28, 2012, 11:17
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Can I get clarification on the definition of a prospect in terms of a drafted/signed player or a current college player who is eligible for this year's MLB draft?
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| | | 514 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Wed, Mar 28, 2012, 11:40
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Bobo a prospect is any batter with less then 300 ML AB's and any pitcher with less the 125 ML IP. Makes no difference where they are.
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| | | 515 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Wed, Mar 28, 2012, 11:42
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for my next pick I will leave a queue with someone who has completed the draft before I head out tomorrow. Work is swamped right now. I had no idea I would wind up outside all day.
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| | | 516 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Wed, Mar 28, 2012, 12:04
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Tree
Yeah, I know all that. Usually the second round, etc goes faster and people don't sweat it if they get skipped because of the clock. It works after the first round. I am happy not to have one the first round.
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| | | 517 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Wed, Mar 28, 2012, 13:59
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I deleted my pick, reformatted it and put it back. Same player. Didn't like the way I had it formatted.
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| | | 518 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Wed, Mar 28, 2012, 15:08
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Paging Jorge. Someone with his contact info please do so.
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| | | 519 | bobo
ID: 182562815
Wed, Mar 28, 2012, 16:56
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Re: 514
Thank you and I am stunned with those guidelines not inclusive of only MLB drafted or signed talent.
How young was Bryce Harper when he was drafted here?
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| | | 520 | Great One
ID: 340592712
Wed, Mar 28, 2012, 17:01
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He was in Little League still I think.
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| | | 521 | Great One
ID: 340592712
Wed, Mar 28, 2012, 17:03
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That's also why its a peculiar time to be doing a prospect draft, instead of waiting 2 months til the real MLB Draft minimum, or even better after the signing deadline.
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| | | 522 | Nerveclinic
ID: 52134819
Wed, Mar 28, 2012, 17:14
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The problem with that GO is then people end up drafting prospects to their team. Drafting now is the only way to ensure prospects stay prospects.
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| | | 523 | Tree
ID: 51282816
Wed, Mar 28, 2012, 17:22
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That's also why its a peculiar time to be doing a prospect draft, instead of waiting 2 months til the real MLB Draft minimum, or even better after the signing deadline
i think it's to avoid prospects being picked up on the waiver wire, or what have you, and horded.
How young was Bryce Harper when he was drafted here?
he was taken in the 2010 prospect draft. and he wasn't taken first.
Chris Carter has that distinction. it was actually a really strong year - the first round included Harper, Ike Davis, Dustin Ackley, Drew Storen, Starlin Castro, and Dee Gordon, not to mention Dominic Brown and Jeremy Hellickson.
other guys who went in that draft include Jacob Turner, Brett Lawrie, Mat Latos, and Jordan Zimmerman.
not bad, but the first 16 picks include a number of guys who are high-level starters this season or last.
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| | | 524 | C1-NRB
ID: 451120913
Wed, Mar 28, 2012, 17:42
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The problem with that GO is then people end up drafting prospects to their team. Drafting now is the only way to ensure prospects stay prospects.
I sorta/kinda did this last year. When Leonys Martin defected and the Rangers signed him last summer I nabbed him off waivers when he got called up. If he showed anything at all I was going to declare him a keeper. As it turns out, he didn't see much time and the Rnagers announced early in Spring Training he would spend most of this year in triple A. I was sweating it out hoping he would drop to me in the prospect draft.
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| | | 525 | Bobo
ID: 121572919
Wed, Mar 28, 2012, 20:13
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Well, even though I am new, I am going to continue to advocate for either 2 prospect drafts (March/August) each year or continued discussion to make the rules of unsigned or undrafted players different.
I an envious of Great One's shrewd move, but I am certainly not hating on his move or playing within the established guidelines.
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| | | 526 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Wed, Mar 28, 2012, 20:26
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Not meaning to be a trouble-maker but once upon a time we had a rule that once a player has been on a regular MLB team and on a manager's regular roster he could never again be a prospect keeper.
Did that entirely go away in the updated prospect keeper system? Obviously with the new rules the original owner can now drop him to the WW and pick him back up as much as he wants until he officially releases him, but can others redraft a player like that to the prospect keeper roster?
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| | | 527 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Wed, Mar 28, 2012, 20:28
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I'd really like to compare the results over time of our league's top 14 prospect picks with other experts' lists. I think we are good.
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| | | 528 | Tree
ID: 402442819
Wed, Mar 28, 2012, 20:46
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Not meaning to be a trouble-maker but once upon a time we had a rule that once a player has been on a regular MLB team and on a manager's regular roster he could never again be a prospect keeper.
i don't remember the first part of that rule (regular MLB team), but i do remember we dropped the second part to make it simpler - as long as the player kept under the prospect limits, he could still drafted as a prospect.
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| | | 529 | taxman
ID: 21281010
Wed, Mar 28, 2012, 20:55
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I am up after two more picks, however may not ck the boards again tonight unless I receive a call (thank you Boldwin) telling me I am up.
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| | | 530 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Thu, Mar 29, 2012, 10:54
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Bobo I am not sure why you would even consider "hating" on GO move. Appel was high on my list also. He is predicted to go first in the draft. You can even draft a high school player who is predicted to go high in the draft. I have Gerrit Cole as a prospect who was basically same as Appel last year, predicted to go first in the draft so I took him and much to Tree's astonishment he was indeed drafted #1.
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| | | 531 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Thu, Mar 29, 2012, 10:58
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Maybe we should have warned bobo that he should be looking at all age brackets.
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| | | 532 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Thu, Mar 29, 2012, 10:59
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Taxman has been contacted and I have my pick ready if Taxman doesn't snatch him.
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| | | 533 | Great One
ID: 340592712
Thu, Mar 29, 2012, 11:07
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Someone will need to email me when I'm up. I'm closing a house, going to see Springsteen and moving the next 48 hours so I'll be missing in action. I'll keep some names written down in my wallet and can email my pick back or possibly post.
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| | | 534 | taxman
ID: 21281010
Thu, Mar 29, 2012, 11:17
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Have been trapped in an endless acquisition negotiation, but managed break to get pick posted. I hit "Controlled F"and came up clean. Let me know if I need to re-pick.
As always..thank you to Baldwin for his continuing courtesies notifying me when I have been up.
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| | | 535 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Thu, Mar 29, 2012, 11:24
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Got who I wanted tho I do like Taxman's pick. If I wasn't so overloaded at OF...
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| | | 536 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Fri, Mar 30, 2012, 11:44
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OK now the waiver time has been set for 7 DAYS???
WTF is up with that?
Waiver day has always been 2 days in every league I have ever played in in a dozen years and a hundred leagues. How did ours suddenly get switched to 7 days?
The first MAJOR problem I see with this is it completely undercuts the strategy of streaming pitchers which is part of the way I drafted since the waiver wire in this league for the last 10 years has been 2 days. Can we please get it turned back?
Let me make a wild guess Tree did it?
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| | | 537 | PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Fri, Mar 30, 2012, 12:43
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I'm fairly certain this league is a damn joke now.
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| | | 538 | Biliruben
ID: 358252515
Fri, Mar 30, 2012, 13:16
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I'm guessing it was an error.
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| | | 539 | Tree
ID: 37226713
Fri, Mar 30, 2012, 13:18
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Nerve. Eat a dick.
I'm on the road, traveling from Fort Worth to Miami.
If it happened in the last few days, I didn't do it. It happened previously, it may have happened when I was trying to fix the previous free agency issue and I forgot to set something back.
But seriously. Quit being such a bitch and going into hysterics. If there's something off, just say something and we'll take care of it.
Ps feel free to step up to the plate and take over commish duties.
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| | | 540 | Tree
ID: 37226713
Fri, Mar 30, 2012, 13:20
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Punk - second round in a row where it came down to two guys for me, and you picked the one I didn't.
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| | | 541 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Fri, Mar 30, 2012, 16:18
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For those who are in this league but not a poliboard regular poster...
...relax. The league is fine. The league is healthy. We regulars haven't lasted in the poliboard this long without a thick skin and relishing the rough and tumble of wildly divergent POV's and the freedom to express ourselves colorfully.
I didn't consciously add a week long WW but this is just the sort of rule minutia I don't do well with so who knows if I could have backed into it. But I haven't touched any levers for quite a few days.
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| | | 542 | PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Fri, Mar 30, 2012, 16:56
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Tree - Round 1 was between d'Arnaud, Appel and Hultzen. 2 of 3 isn't bad
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| | | 543 | Nerveclinic
ID: 52134819
Fri, Mar 30, 2012, 18:19
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Tree please review policy on civility and respect. I would hate to see you band from the forumn.
I waited all day to draft, it's 2am here will pick in the morning.
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| | | 544 | taxman
ID: 21281010
Fri, Mar 30, 2012, 20:23
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I hope you get to pick in the morning.
Smart money is giving Sunday/Monday as the over/under (earlier/later)....at least for my pick.
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| | | 545 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Sat, Mar 31, 2012, 01:17
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Tree please review policy on civility and respect.
i return the treatment i'm given. Baldwin and I took this gig because no one else would. i really have a low tolerance level for whining and for BS and for being blamed for nonsense.
again, step up. be commish. you're welcome to it.
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| | | 546 | biliruben
ID: 59551120
Sat, Mar 31, 2012, 01:46
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Tree - show some class.
I appreciate your efforts on this league, but that doesn't give you carte blanche to go off on a concerned manager who has a legitimate worry.
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| | | 547 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Sat, Mar 31, 2012, 02:00
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Question: I keep confusing old prospect keeper rules for current ones. If I identify a rookie player who played last year and didn't reach limits do I need to see if he was ever on a manager's roster, would that matter or can I just draft him in the prospect draft?
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| | | 548 | Nerveclinic
ID: 52134819
Sat, Mar 31, 2012, 02:17
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Well it's morning but amazingly enough not yet my pick.
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| | | 549 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Sat, Mar 31, 2012, 03:36
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Tree
Go back and read my post. What did I really say to deserve to be called a "bitch" and to be told to "eat a dick". Are you ever going to grow up?
The season has started and there are players on waiver for 7 days. I understand now this was an accident but what did I really say to deserve that type of inappropriate comment. Comments that are not allowed on this forum.
My being incredulous that the waiver wire is set for 7 days is "whining"?
As far as my being the commish, I started the league, I was commish the first couple of years and I have paid my dues. I do not have time at the moment to do it properly. Further I am in a completely different time zone which would make it difficult to solve issues when the rest of the league is awake.
That doesn't mean I cannot question the most basic settings of the league when they are not set properly. Glad to hear it was just an accident. Thanks for fixing it and expending the energy to commish the league.
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| | | 550 | Great One
ID: 36214199
Sat, Mar 31, 2012, 07:43
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There was no way anyone would purposely set waivers to seven days. So there was an overreaction on your part thinking that was legit and throwing off your draft strategy.
But Tree was a bit harsh too so nobody is without blame.
I will pick soon although i am not sure i can more than last 10 posts on my phone.
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| | | 551 | Great One
ID: 36214199
Sat, Mar 31, 2012, 08:01
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Hultzen was picked in the regular draft. Looks like he won't be eligible for our prospect draft despite being from 2011 draft.
So another reason why a prospect draft sometime last year would have avoided a guy going through the real MLB draft and never be getting a shot of being prospect eligible for our league. Last year he still wasnt in the system so therefore he couldnt be rostered by anyone stashing.
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| | | 552 | Building 7
Leader
ID: 171572711
Sat, Mar 31, 2012, 08:22
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Hultzen is on Bobo's team. Punk should re-pick.
#547 If the player is not currently on any roster, and below the limits, he can be a prospect. last year does not matter. That's my thinking.
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| | | 553 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Sat, Mar 31, 2012, 09:26
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B7
Now that I think about it, I've already done this with Jordon Zimmermann with no challenges so I am no longer worried about the old rule applying.
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| | | 554 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Sat, Mar 31, 2012, 09:30
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I thot Hultzen was already picked but when he didn't ctl-f I just assumed I had been mistaken.
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| | | 555 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Sat, Mar 31, 2012, 09:32
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And we could have picked up Hultzen in kindergarten if we had seen it coming. We've taken a number of HS players.
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| | | 556 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Sat, Mar 31, 2012, 09:34
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Let's vote on holding the prospect draft before the regular draft then. Works for me as long as we made sure we finished before the regular draft.
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| | | 557 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Sat, Mar 31, 2012, 09:55
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I am picking shortly.
Would recommend a separate thread for votes. part of the reason all members are not voting is it gets buried in other topics.
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| | | 558 | Tree
ID: 37226713
Sat, Mar 31, 2012, 11:24
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Yea, i overreacted.
But the lengthy OMG type of complaint was unnecessary. Yes, a mistake was made.
But no reason to go into hysterics and start throwing blame around as if someone were trying to screw you.
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| | | 559 | PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Sat, Mar 31, 2012, 12:12
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Can someone do something with the Kafe draft to complete it, since that's the only place we did it, we need to be able to see it.
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| | | 560 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Sat, Mar 31, 2012, 14:00
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As far as I can tell I managed to finish the Kafenatid Draftime draft. Then again I never had any problem seeing the results before either but perhaps that's because I was admin. Let me know if you still have problems seeing the results.
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| | | 561 | taxman
ID: 21281010
Sat, Mar 31, 2012, 14:22
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Sent Jorge e-mail via yahoo league address that he was up. Maybe PV or someone else can rattle his cage also. Would love to get out of draft/watching computer mode.
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| | | 562 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Sat, Mar 31, 2012, 15:08
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Send him an e-mail telling Jorge he picked a player taken in the regular draft.
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| | | 563 | PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Sat, Mar 31, 2012, 15:48
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Yep looks good now Baldwin
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| | | 564 | taxman
ID: 21281010
Sat, Mar 31, 2012, 16:37
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re # 563 What looks good? We are still stopped. Jorge needs to re-pick.
Thanks for trying to reach him Baldwin. As a friend of PV, I am hoping that Bobby can be urged to contact Jorge so that we can finish this.
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| | | 565 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Sat, Mar 31, 2012, 16:37
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Believe me there was no straightforward way to do that. No 'end draft now' lever. And I didn't like the 'draft a buncha nobodies to fill it out' cause you just know three years later we'd be wondering how we all got Appel's on our teams. I finally figured out that skipping everyone three rounds might end the draft.
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| | | 566 | PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Sat, Mar 31, 2012, 16:50
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Kafe looks good now as #560 said...
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| | | 567 | PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Sat, Mar 31, 2012, 17:15
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*Cough cough*
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| | | 568 | taxman
ID: 21281010
Sat, Mar 31, 2012, 17:32
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my apologies PuNk for not following thought through your posts in this thread. Poor reading, writing and logic skills limit me to reading only previous couple posts when reference in latest post has duplicitous meanings.
You are thinking kafenatid and I am focused only on prospect draft. Clarity remains a problem.
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| | | 569 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Sat, Mar 31, 2012, 18:59
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Who is Bobo's contact person?
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| | | 570 | taxman
ID: 21281010
Sat, Mar 31, 2012, 19:19
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e-mail sent through yahoo all managers page to Bobo, since his e-mail address is hidden..I probably e-mailed the entire league.
Some body eloquent and smart (eliminates me) should re-post how "control F" can help prevent drafting player already drafted.
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| | | 571 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Sat, Mar 31, 2012, 19:40
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Just keep this experience in mind for next year. There is no reason not to have a clock in the later stages of the prospect draft.
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| | | 572 | PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Sat, Mar 31, 2012, 19:45
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I'm not sure why we really care how long the Prospect draft is, and why it needs a time limit. Sure it is nice to get things banged out quickly, but it's one thing that doesn't affect anything at the beginning of the season.
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| | | 573 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Sat, Mar 31, 2012, 19:49
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That's not necessarily true.
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| | | 574 | PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Sat, Mar 31, 2012, 19:59
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It isn't, but in the end how many people would make it through the normal draft that have a chance to be in the prospect and actually do something week/month 1?
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| | | 575 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Sat, Mar 31, 2012, 21:17
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Well for one thing, we could avoid causing Taxman's head exploding. The normal draft is excruciating enuff in certain stretches. Why double up on that?
While a few people claim to be targeting the same players most people are targeting different positions and ages and time frames for reaching the majors. Some are looking for 20 yr old phenoms or HS. Some are only looking for infielders, some potential closers, some guys with a 100mph fastball. Different sources put more stress on nearness to the majors, the next on ultimate upside. By the third round you really aren't crushed if you get skipped because you didn't check in soon enuff. I can still find plenty of guys who should have been picked in the first round if you look at them the right way.
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| | | 576 | taxman
ID: 21281010
Sat, Mar 31, 2012, 21:56
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I'm done for the night. Boldwin please execute the drill should I not be riding the internet tomorrow.
Thank you again for agreeing to co-commish with Josh.Wish the league could provide you the tools to wrap the draft portion of our season. You have exercised remarkable control/restraint thru the ordinary reoccurring b/s this league continues to generate.
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| | | 577 | Bobo
ID: 121572919
Sun, Apr 01, 2012, 13:50
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Sorry all...I've been on a wrestling watching binge since Friday night and I am on vacation. Tree would have been my contact, but he's in South Florida taking in all of the wrestling in person.
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| | | 578 | taxman
ID: 21281010
Sun, Apr 01, 2012, 14:22
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Bobo..could you please post your e-mail address (under your name on the GURU BOARDS) AND/OR undo your block on Poli Baseball Yahoo managers contact info?
thanks
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| | | 579 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Sun, Apr 01, 2012, 17:53
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Could someone tell me what Teheran has going for him that justifies the hype he's had for several years? I have never seen it.
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| | | 580 | PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Sun, Apr 01, 2012, 18:11
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I def didn't see it during spring training when he got knocked around by Detroit.
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| | | 581 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Sun, Apr 01, 2012, 23:09
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I really really really wish you guys would reconsider having a basketball league. There is just too much empty fantasy time between football and baseball this way.
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| | | 582 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Mon, Apr 02, 2012, 10:19
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For the really hardcore league: Fantasy Squared where you back up your trash talk by buying and selling shares based on events in your own league.
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| | | 583 | Myboyjack
ID: 447112610
Mon, Apr 02, 2012, 12:14
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I can't control-f - so if Castellanos has been previously taken let me know.
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| | | 584 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Mon, Apr 02, 2012, 12:50
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You are good, MBJ.
We made a mistake not copying a shadow draft of the Kafenatid results over here as we went along. People would have made less ctrl-f fails if we had, among other reasons to have done so.
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| | | 585 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Mon, Apr 02, 2012, 12:55
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Re:Fantasy Squared, I joined the Tout Wars Mixed league just to get a feel for it. Join me for a bit of early and extra fun.
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| | | 586 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Mon, Apr 02, 2012, 15:33
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<---Relieved
Tim Hudson, two very strong innings. Damn the herniated disc. Full speed ahead.
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| | | 587 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Tue, Apr 03, 2012, 01:59
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Baldwin what email are you using now a days?
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| | | 588 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Tue, Apr 03, 2012, 06:04
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This one.
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| | | 590 | taxman
ID: 21281010
Tue, Apr 03, 2012, 11:21
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Do you have an e-mail for Bobo?
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| | | 591 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Tue, Apr 03, 2012, 11:35
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I e-mailed him thru Yahoo, but I'm not real confident those get much attention.
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| | | 592 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Tue, Apr 03, 2012, 17:17
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I finally beat this league to an emerging closer. I think.
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| | | 593 | taxman
ID: 21281010
Tue, Apr 03, 2012, 19:15
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I was trying to pick him up 10 minutes after you snagged him.
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| | | 594 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Tue, Apr 03, 2012, 20:09
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Great One is up in the draft!
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| | | 596 | taxman
ID: 21281010
Tue, Apr 03, 2012, 20:33
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There should be some type of rule about the prospect draft finishing before regular season starts (ignoring overseas early games). Gives advantage to stragglers for potential early season pick ups or opportunity to better evaluate minor league assignments.
I thought GO was to be MIA at end of last week, not this week.
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| | | 597 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Wed, Apr 04, 2012, 02:15
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Coldwater Coyotes is up.
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| | | 598 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Wed, Apr 04, 2012, 10:44
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then me, then CC again.
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| | | 599 | Myboyjack
ID: 447112610
Wed, Apr 04, 2012, 12:04
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CC must really like that Cuthbert guy. He picked him twice in this draft.
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| | | 600 | Tree
ID: 8312411
Wed, Apr 04, 2012, 12:14
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guess i'll hold. lol.
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| | | 601 | coldwater coyotes
SuperDude
ID: 229272412
Wed, Apr 04, 2012, 13:43
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Can I pick him again in the next round?
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| | | 602 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Wed, Apr 04, 2012, 15:16
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I expect so!
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| | | 603 | taxman
ID: 21281010
Wed, Apr 04, 2012, 17:43
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Way to go guys..great finishing kick.
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| | | 604 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Sun, Apr 08, 2012, 12:09
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Dear Max Scherzer and Mike Minor,
It's going to take an impressive effort to actually raise my team's ERA and WHIP today, so i'm counting on y'all to help me move up a few points in the standings.
thanks, and much love,
Tree
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| | | 605 | Great One
ID: 450312813
Sun, Apr 08, 2012, 12:55
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We need to get a summarized list of the prospects on the league homepage like Fred did last year. My prospect keeps sorting to the top, so I know somebody is gonna pick him up.
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| | | 606 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Sun, Apr 08, 2012, 17:47
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i guess my pitchers didn't get the memo. wow.
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| | | 607 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Sun, Apr 08, 2012, 22:14
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I'm still battling a building inspector and may be for the foreseeable future so asking for projects like #605 are unlikely to meet with success.
Anyone can compile and post the list if they feel the need.
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| | | 608 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Mon, Apr 09, 2012, 04:35
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That wasn't what I had in mind when I picked up Aceves to get me some sneaky saves.
Two days of Infinity ERA and WHIP?
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| | | 609 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Mon, Apr 09, 2012, 05:01
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Consider my pitching jackpot three-fer Saturday.
Haren 8.40 ERA
Liriano 11.25 ERA
Latos 7.71 ERA
Peralta 27 ERA
Havin' some fun now!
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| | | 610 | C1-NRB
ID: 42281120
Tue, Apr 10, 2012, 19:19
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I meant what I said, and I said what I meant:
David Freese rides the bench 100%
David Freese, get him while he's hot.
Season Totals: R:4 HR:2 RBI:8 SB:0 AVG:.417
No reasonable offer refused. Special consideration given for humorous add-ons.
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| | | 611 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Wed, Apr 11, 2012, 10:19
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Considering the way Yadier Molina thinks he's still in 'hop on my back and I'll take you to the promised land' mode, I could prolly do worse than to trade for Freese too. Why is it all us experts don't respect him again?
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| | | 612 | Great One
ID: 340592712
Wed, Apr 11, 2012, 11:47
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I put a summarized prospect list in the prospect draft thread.
Can a commish please post detailed prospect rules as well as this list on the Yahoo league homepage commish note or wherever.
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| | | 613 | Great One
ID: 340592712
Wed, Apr 11, 2012, 11:48
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helpful tip... I have been using the "Watchlist" indicator for prospects so i can more easily remember who not to pick up.
That is unless you actually use the watchlist, I suppose it would screw you up.
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| | | 614 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Sat, Apr 14, 2012, 04:56
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It seems that this two day waiver setting is gonna be a significant problem for streamers. You don't get your pickup for 2 days it seems from my limited experience. Was it designed to do that and shouldn't we vote on it?
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| | | 615 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Sat, Apr 14, 2012, 08:47
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as NC pointed out, the two-day waiting period for waivers has been standard in many leagues for quite some time.
"streamers" should be employing this knowledge as part of their strategy. to change the rules to make easier a certain strategy seems against the spirit of the game to me.
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| | | 616 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Sat, Apr 14, 2012, 10:35
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We should still put it to a vote.
The way you fix streaming is to increase the bench size until there isn't an endless supply of Bud Norris level talent freely available on the WW.
If certain people had the cajones to play the game without such a rich WW crutch we'd have a more interesting league.
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| | | 617 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Sat, Apr 14, 2012, 12:02
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I wouldn't mind adding an additional bench spot for next season. Of course we should vote on it. I would vote yes, I've felt like I could use one more bench spot this year.
I fail to understand your point in 614 though. What do you mean you don't get him for "2 days" as long as he is a free agent you get him immediately.
Even if someone uses a pitcher and then drops him, the time between starts is 5-6 days so when the two days are up, you still have 3 days before the next start.
If Bud Norris is such a big talent, I suppose someone will add him to their team.
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| | | 618 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Sat, Apr 14, 2012, 12:04
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Baldwin can you explain 614 more clearly? I've read it 5 times and I still have no idea what exactly it is you are saying. I also don't understand what your issue is with streaming.
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| | | 619 | Tree
ID: 38331411
Sat, Apr 14, 2012, 12:08
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I wouldn't mind adding an additional bench spot for next season. Of course we should vote on it. I would vote yes, I've felt like I could use one more bench spot this year.
i would definitely vote to increase the bench by one. it's only 14 players off the waiver wire. still plenty of talent left after that.
and i think Baldwin is confusing waivers with free agency.
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| | | 620 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Sat, Apr 14, 2012, 19:31
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Nerve
Streaming is fine. More power to you. But it screws the league over when you can draft 2 starters, hold 5 closers in waiting and play 10 Bud Norris's off the WW. [slight exageration perhaps, I don't have the exact count] Gratz on you for exploiting this league weakness. Really I respect the heck out of that stroke of insight you had.
Ideally you would have to pay a price for using WW material for half your pitching and something is seriously screwy if you can.
Tree
I am getting complaints from people that the pitcher they picked up isn't available for 2 days after the transaction, since they expected to get to play him the next day. I don't know for sure if they are right but that's how I understand the 2 day WW setting also.
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| | | 621 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Sat, Apr 14, 2012, 20:52
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But it screws the league over when you can draft 2 starters, hold 5 closers in waiting and play 10 Bud Norris's off the WW.
i don't see how it screws the league over. it's a strategy he opted to take. it may work, it may not. we're not even two weeks into the season.
I am getting complaints from people that the pitcher they picked up isn't available for 2 days after the transaction, since they expected to get to play him the next day. I don't know for sure if they are right but that's how I understand the 2 day WW setting also.
considering this league has had exactly ONE pitcher picked up via the WAIVER wire, i'm going to ask that these "people" come forward and speak.
now, we've had plenty of FREE AGENT pitchers picked up, and there is a dramatic difference in the process of each.
WAIVERS takes two days - it's not immediate, because it's based on waiver priority, and to give everyone a fair shot, you need to have that time. nearly every league i've ever been in goes that route.
the one pitcher in this league that went through WAIVERS processed on the 13th. That means he was placed on the roster on the 14th. And yes, this pitcher pitched on the 13th, and that start was missed.
FREE AGENCY is immediate, and the player is available to be used the next day.
that's the difference between FREE AGENCY and WAIVERS.
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| | | 622 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Sun, Apr 15, 2012, 10:35
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But it screws the league over when you can draft 2 starters, hold 5 closers in waiting and play 10 Bud Norris's off the WW.
Huh? screws the league over?
Really?
So no one else in the league is allowed to use this strategy except for me?
There's a special rule in the league That only Nerve is allowed to hold only 3 starters and everyone else has to hold 4 or 5 or 6?
And no one else is allowed to have closers in waiting on their team? Only Nerve?
By the way Bud Norris, 6.00 ERA and 2 K's, not exactly what one would hope for when he is "screwing" the league.
Really Baldwin I don't know why you are calling a pretty common strategy, that is discussed commonly on lots of fantasy web sites, as somehow being "sneaky" and screwing the eague.
You should maybe read a little more, might enlighten you.
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| | | 623 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Sun, Apr 15, 2012, 14:20
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Yeah, Norris will continue at about that rate.
Again, streaming wasn't a stroke out of the blue for me, but realizing that using it in this league where the WW was so rich and was the only way to clear space for enuff closers in waiting that it became so incredibly successful was a stroke.
Sure anyone can use it, and if more did I don't think you'd find the WW so useful. I remember what at the very end of the year the WW was picked pretty clean of useful pitchers.
I'm not attacking you, Nerve. You aren't doing anything but exploiting a league eccentricity and again, more power to you and kudos for doing so. I do think the rest of the league needs to decide if they are really so sure they want a WW that rich and a bench that short. It never made any sense to me before and it makes even less sense now as far as I am concerned.
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| | | 624 | biliruben
ID: 59551120
Sun, Apr 15, 2012, 15:02
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I have used it on and off forever in this league, when I have a chance to compete. When I'm out of it, not so much, because it's a bit time consuming.
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| | | 625 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Sun, Apr 15, 2012, 16:37
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Bili at least one of the years you won you did it streaming big time...
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| | | 626 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Sun, Apr 15, 2012, 16:44
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And yes Bili deserves the credit for doing it first, I just watched what he was doing, and frankly it's been a much discussed strategy in the Fantasy Baseball stratosphere.
On another note. Ellsbury out for 2 months...
Left the draft with 1 closer, now have between 3-5 depending on who you ask.
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| | | 627 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Tue, Apr 17, 2012, 18:25
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"Mike Trout is hitting .435/.491/.552 for Triple-A Salt Lake and just scored from first on a groundball single in Sunday's game." - Rotoworld
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| | | 628 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Tue, Apr 17, 2012, 18:48
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For the record Trout and Strasburg are untouchable.
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| | | 629 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Wed, Apr 18, 2012, 12:08
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For the record Trout and Strasburg are untouchable.
What if I offer you a real old timey player, you know some guy who has shown diminished skills in the twilight of his career but we all know he will make a come back..
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| | | 630 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Wed, Apr 18, 2012, 12:11
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*muuuust...resiiiist*
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| | | 631 | Great One
ID: 340592712
Wed, Apr 18, 2012, 12:14
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So continuing to try and summarize some rules in one place... I've come up with this much for prospects. We need to further define this and get it added to the prospect list on the Yahoo page.
Prospect Rules
The limit is 300 ABs or 125 IPs.
**OLD RULES - Prospects may only be called up once.
NEW RULES - You can add them and drop them as much as you want as long as they stay under the limits. And nobody else is allowed to pick them up.
Draft - Keep up to 3 each offseason. Everyone completes prospect draft with 5. They can be from anywhere i.e. Little League, Cuba, Japan etc.
Note - for the regular draft, player must be in Yahoo system.
Questions I still have...
1 - Can you trade prospect rights (believe I did last year)?
Does it have to be balanced? Can I trade you all 5 of my prospects if I want for one regular player?
2 - Can you have more than 5 prospects at one time?
3 - Can I trade away prospect draft picks? during the draft? prior to the draft?
4 - What happens if a player crosses the threshold and his owner doesn't notice? can anyone add that guy the next day?
That's a good start off the top of my head.
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| | | 632 | Boldwin
ID: 12214143
Wed, Apr 18, 2012, 12:25
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1) Yes, as long as you come away from the trade with no more than 5 prospects.
2) Never
3) No, the recipient would end up with an illegal number of prospect picks.
4) Anyone can snipe him, but if I recall correctly there is a seven day grace period?
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| | | 633 | C1-NRB
ID: 451120913
Wed, Apr 18, 2012, 15:10
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3) Yes. I did this my first season in the league. The receiver just has to make sure they have enogh spots open in the prospect draft to use it.
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| | | 634 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Thu, Apr 19, 2012, 01:19
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To further the point about trading prospects. If you trade someone 5 of yours for a regular player, that person would have to drop all 5 of his prospects to accommodate the trade.
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| | | 635 | Biliruben
ID: 358252515
Thu, Apr 19, 2012, 11:48
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Or call them up. And now you can bring them up and send them down at will. Or most of them.
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| | | 636 | Great One
ID: 340592712
Thu, Apr 19, 2012, 11:51
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Could theoretically have 10 prospects as long as 5 of them are on my big league roster at all times? Or do they still fill a "prospect slot" regardless of being on the being on the main roster or not?
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| | | 637 | Great One
ID: 340592712
Thu, Apr 19, 2012, 11:52
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This is why in G20 you can have as many as you want right now, makes it simpler to track. But come draft time you need to be down to 3 prospects. So you gotta trim the fat at that point.
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| | | 638 | Tree
ID: 03271911
Thu, Apr 19, 2012, 12:30
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Could theoretically have 10 prospects as long as 5 of them are on my big league roster at all times? Or do they still fill a "prospect slot" regardless of being on the being on the main roster or not?
i think a mid-season prospect draft - in addition to our regular one - would be fun. base it on the standings at the time.
make it 5 players. then, by the time draft day rolls around, you gotta trim it to 3. might make trading more fun too, having all those prospects.
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| | | 639 | Boldwin
ID: 48351195
Thu, Apr 19, 2012, 13:00
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#636
As it currently stands I can call up Trout, send him back down pick him back up and he is on my prospect list the entire time and counts against my 5 max prospects the whole time.
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| | | 640 | Biliruben
ID: 358252515
Thu, Apr 19, 2012, 13:04
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Really?
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| | | 641 | Great One
ID: 340592712
Thu, Apr 19, 2012, 13:10
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Ok, so you'd have to call him up and say he is no longer a prospect and keep him on the roster permanently in order to free up a Prospect Slot.
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| | | 642 | Boldwin
ID: 48351195
Thu, Apr 19, 2012, 13:44
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GO
There wouldn't be any point afaik to dropping him from the prospect list before the prospect draft unless it was to clear space for a traded prospect. [perhaps an uneven number of traded players?]
bili
There is nothing stopping me from swapping Kenley Jansen and Henderson Alvarez back and forth all year, or Skaggs and Alvarez if Skaggs gets called up.
How's that for streaming? Tell me where I am wrong, if you think I am.
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| | | 643 | Boldwin
ID: 48351195
Thu, Apr 19, 2012, 13:45
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I should prolly be more circumspect about strategy like Nerve, but...
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| | | 644 | Great One
ID: 340592712
Thu, Apr 19, 2012, 13:49
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Yes, I just needed to know how to free up a spot so a 2-1 type trade could be made.
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| | | 645 | C1-NRB
ID: 451120913
Wed, Apr 25, 2012, 17:33
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I meant what I said, and I said what I meant:
David Freese rides my bench 100%
Season Totals (thru today, 4/25): R:8 HR:4 RBI:18* SB:0 AVG:.328**
*Leads all 3B
**6th 3B w/at least 60 AB
As always, No reasonable offer refused! Special consideration given for humorous add-ons.
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| | | 646 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Wed, Apr 25, 2012, 23:49
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and there goes one of my 7 keepers. ugh.
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| | | 647 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Fri, Apr 27, 2012, 15:07
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Well he really looks awful Tree can't blame you for dropping him.
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| | | 648 | Tree
ID: 593382715
Fri, Apr 27, 2012, 16:40
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lol. i was talking about Pineda, not Pujols. but he's stinking up the joint too!
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| | | 649 | C1-NRB
ID: 451120913
Fri, Apr 27, 2012, 17:06
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I can't believe I'm making this offer, but I will trade you the reigning World Series MVP for a guy on the DL and another guy batting .224 with 0 HR, single digit RBI, and single digit Runs.
But it has to be both since, after all, we're talking about the World Series MVP.
Better take it before I change my mind...
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| | | 650 | Boldwin
ID: 48351195
Fri, Apr 27, 2012, 21:28
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What position are you most interested in improving, C1?
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| | | 651 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Fri, Apr 27, 2012, 23:18
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I can't believe I'm making this offer, but I will trade you the reigning World Series MVP for a guy on the DL and another guy batting .224 with 0 HR, single digit RBI, and single digit Runs.
throw in $100,000 in real money, and you've got a deal.
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| | | 652 | C1-NRB
ID: 55348289
Sat, Apr 28, 2012, 10:49
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throw in $100,000 in real money, and you've got a deal.
U.S. American dollars? Hmmm...
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| | | 653 | Boldwin
ID: 48351195
Sat, Apr 28, 2012, 10:52
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BTW, add world series MVP AND spring training MVP and together you'll get about a cup of coffee. Maybe Starbucks for both.
Small sample sizes etc.
My Zimmerman is just on the DL. I'm quite satisfied to go with Jed Lowrie as long as he's relatively hot. I've always liked that player, especially now that he's not platooned with Scutaro. I even took a last pick flier on him last year in the draft.
As long as you think Freese is the second coming I doubt we have a deal. As soon as you decide to get a pitcher you actually will play, there's an easy deal here I am sure.
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| | | 654 | Boldwin
ID: 48351195
Sun, Apr 29, 2012, 13:48
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If he keeps this up I am going to develop Latos intolerance.
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| | | 655 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Sun, Apr 29, 2012, 18:03
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Latos Intolerance, nice one Baldy did you make that up?
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| | | 656 | Boldwin
ID: 48351195
Sun, Apr 29, 2012, 20:44
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Yup
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| | | 657 | Building 7
Leader
ID: 171572711
Mon, Apr 30, 2012, 07:47
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I became Latos intolerance after I found out he was traded to the Reds.
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| | | 658 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Sat, May 05, 2012, 15:24
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NC - please drop Cashner, he's CC's prospect.
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| | | 659 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Sat, May 05, 2012, 15:25
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why do i hate pitchers? Mariano Rivera and Michael Pineda are why.
my #1 draft pick and one of my keepers, both out for the season.
Yankee Pitchers - 2
Tree - 0
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| | | 660 | Nerveclinic
ID: 52134819
Sat, May 05, 2012, 18:41
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Dropped Should have checked but I had no idea he was a prospect.
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| | | 661 | Nerveclinic
ID: 52134819
Sat, May 05, 2012, 18:51
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I told you when you picked Rivera he was too old Tree.
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| | | 662 | Pancho Villa
ID: 597172916
Sun, May 06, 2012, 00:33
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OK, for those who think we need to dilute the free agent pool by expanding the bench, try looking at the current list of free agents and tell me there's even a hint of quality available.
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| | | 663 | Nerveclinic
ID: 52134819
Sun, May 06, 2012, 00:44
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PV there are at least half a dozen pitchers, probably more, I would be happy to have on my team. But then I voted against the expansion.
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| | | 664 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Sun, May 06, 2012, 12:08
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I told you when you picked Rivera he was too old Tree.
freak injury. i don't believe it's related to his age.
for those who think we need to dilute the free agent pool by expanding the bench, try looking at the current list of free agents and tell me there's even a hint of quality available.
depends what your needs are. there are guys who can help with homers, with runs, with SBs, and with Avg.
on the pitching side, there's easily a half-dozen guys, probably closer to twice that amount, who could be rostered. among those is a guy who's among the top 5 for K's, and some 4-win pitchers.
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| | | 665 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Sun, May 06, 2012, 15:16
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and it's definitely been a trying first month for me.
i lost my #1 draft pick for the season.
1 lost one of my 7 keepers for the season.
my other keeper SP has an ERA closer to 6.00 than 5.00, and a whip over 1.50.
With the exception of Joe Mauer, none of my other keepers are hitting above .241. Pujols is south of .200. with no homers. Jose Reyes also has no homers. in fact, my 5 keeper hitters have a combined 8 homers - half of those from Mark Teixeira.
i don't expect this to remain so all season long, but it's certainly trying my patience.
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| | | 666 | Great One
ID: 512531316
Sun, May 06, 2012, 17:04
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With the Hanley deal I have officially turned over all the players I inherited 2 years ago. Getting closer to where I want it.
Improving my prospects is the last step of world domination, but that's a long term fix.
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| | | 667 | Great One
ID: 512531316
Sun, May 06, 2012, 17:05
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Did a THIRD team just pick up Cashner?! haha...
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| | | 668 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Sun, May 06, 2012, 17:15
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oy.
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| | | 669 | Pancho Villa
ID: 597172916
Sun, May 06, 2012, 17:58
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there are guys who can help with homers, with runs, with SBs, and with Avg.
Have you looked recently? On page 1, the most homers a player has is 3(3 players). Of those, Jason Bay is on DL, Justin Smoak is batting .177 and Russel Martin is batting .206. There are a few with 4 on page 2, either catchers or on DL.
All those with 10 RBI are batting around .200, and there's just a few who could possibly help with runs and SB. That's with our current system. Take 7-10 hitters(figuring some of the additional players would be pitchers)
out of the equation, and there are no free agents hitters of any quality whatsoever.
As for keepers, I traded for Morse, who has yet to play a game, and my two keeper closers have yet to throw a pitch. Cry me a river.
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| | | 670 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Sun, May 06, 2012, 18:33
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On page 1, the most homers a player has is 3(3 players).
what does the page number have to do with it?
there's a half-dozen guys with 4 or more homers, two of whom have 5.
All those with 10 RBI are batting around .200,
there are seven guys with 10 or ribbies who are batting over .250.
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| | | 671 | Great One
ID: 512531316
Sun, May 06, 2012, 18:38
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I don't know about stats and all that but I do know I never have a problem finding players on the wire like I do in some of my other leagues.
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| | | 672 | Great One
ID: 2431114
Mon, May 07, 2012, 08:53
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So I don't get credit for Chris Davis' Win, do I?
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| | | 673 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Mon, May 07, 2012, 09:16
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So I don't get credit for Chris Davis' Win, do I?
i've been wondering this. you should, if he were in your starting line up. in yahoo football, you get credit if a guy gets stats in something he might not ordinarily get.
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| | | 674 | Great One
ID: 2431114
Mon, May 07, 2012, 09:50
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Yeah, if a kicker throws a TD pass or something.
But for whatever reason I don't think he gets credit in baseball.
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| | | 675 | dpr
ID: 34136118
Mon, May 07, 2012, 12:12
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Do you really want your batting average dragged down by all your NL pitchers also?
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| | | 676 | Great One
ID: 2431114
Mon, May 07, 2012, 12:21
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Not at all, and I'm guessing that's why they do it that way. It would create a situation where you'd only want AL pitchers to make it an advantage.
Kind of like a dumb H2H league I was in that counted fielding %... so I had 6 DH's and 1B's in my lineup and never lost that category all year.
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| | | 677 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Sat, May 12, 2012, 07:57
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6 weeks into the season, my team ERA sits at 5.43 and my WHIP is at 1.51. MY ERA is actually more than DOUBLE that of the top two teams in the league.
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| | | 678 | Great One
ID: 2431114
Wed, May 16, 2012, 11:15
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Anyone with interest in my prospect Wei Yin Chen? He's been really good but I can't quite find room for him...
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| | | 679 | Great One
ID: 2431114
Wed, May 16, 2012, 13:59
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Trade
Great One trades Wei-Yin Chen, SP, BAL to Tree for Francisco Lindor, SS, CLE
When the commishes update the prospect chart on the homepage can they also add in the prospect limits?
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| | | 680 | Tree
ID: 234291614
Wed, May 16, 2012, 15:30
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confirmed.
i'll attempt to make those changes tonight after work if Baldwin doesn't get to it first.
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| | | 681 | Boldwin
ID: 3944693
Mon, May 21, 2012, 05:18
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Could be the most balanced night ever? One of.
I've had better in every category perhaps but never so balanced.
4/2/4/2/.351
2/2/15/0.57/0.77
I'll take a steady diet of that please.
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| | | 682 | Great One
ID: 2431114
Thu, May 24, 2012, 10:54
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Wednesday trade and it finally clears on Sunday? wow... 5 days is kind of ridiculous.
Thought this league was active? Feel like I'm the only one wheeling and dealing. Kind of a snoozefest... lets pick it up people! GObama 2012!
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| | | 683 | Tree
ID: 504122413
Thu, May 24, 2012, 14:14
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i was just offered a trade, but one i wasn't willing to make.
i have many guys on my team that i'm not willing to trade because i struggled through two months of them, but now i think they're starting to break out.
still, in the right deal, i'd move the right guy.
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| | | 684 | Great One
ID: 2431114
Thu, May 24, 2012, 14:18
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must have been from somebody who read my RIBC rant on Teixeria and is trying to buy low
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| | | 685 | Great One
ID: 2431114
Thu, May 24, 2012, 14:20
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I have been poking around rosters actually looking at something with Lester in a package deal or for a good OF type. I've just got Lester in almost every keeper league and I want to mix it up.
He's like the Teixeria of pitchers, always starts out slow and turns it on the rest of the way. So buy now!
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| | | 686 | Tree
ID: 37226713
Thu, May 24, 2012, 15:25
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It wasn't for teixeira, and it would have been a major deal. It also was a pretty fair deal, but i had health concerns for the principle offered in return.
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| | | 687 | Boldwin
ID: 3944693
Thu, May 24, 2012, 16:23
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I don't mind you disclosing the terms if you don't mind it.
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| | | 688 | Boldwin
ID: 3944693
Thu, May 24, 2012, 16:25
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I'd just like you to consider the odds that you keep that guy to retirement and to consider that it's not unthinkably far away.
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| | | 689 | Tree
ID: 164382418
Thu, May 24, 2012, 19:45
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the deal was Ryan Zimmerman and Dan Haren for Pujols.
1. the age difference is relative, but not that large. we forget that Pujols is only 32. Zimmerman is 27 turning 28 this season.
2. Zimmerman's injury history is significant. not including this season, he's missed 147 games in five seasons. he's missed 56 and 61 games in a season. and he's hurting again this season as well. that is very much a concern to me, more so than the age.
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| | | 690 | Boldwin
ID: 3944693
Thu, May 24, 2012, 22:47
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Yeah, well maybe Pujols is just adjusting to the new league but he sure seems...older. I've seen you give up on enuff post-32 year-olds in the past to have hope your grip would weaken.
Zimmerman has had his dings, Clearly the man on his team, 3B is thin. Generally we like to see 27 year olds who broke into the bigs when they were 20 cause they tend to have nice career years.
Haren has a bad month every year but he still manages to finish the year with a 1.05 WHIP and 200K's or better anyway.
It was worth a shot. I knew I should have tried the offer a month ago but I was too down on Pujols myself. I have too many keepers now that Trout has come of age so I'll be looking to do a two-fer-one deal if I can.
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| | | 691 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Fri, May 25, 2012, 03:02
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again, i don't think it was a bad or unfair deal. and despite Zimmerman's injury history, i might still have taken it if he weren't currently having problems.
but i will say this. Pujols is not your ordinary "post 32-year-old" ball player. you're talking about a player who has *never* hit less than 32 homers in a season, only once had less than 100 runs (99), only once had less than 100 RBIs (again, 99), and only once hit less than .312 (.299, what's with these 99s???).
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| | | 692 | Boldwin
ID: 3944693
Fri, May 25, 2012, 03:23
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He certainly is not yer average keeper.
Thank you for the complete game 14 K shutout, Dan Haren.
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| | | 693 | Boldwin
ID: 3944693
Fri, May 25, 2012, 03:24
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And a month without a HR is not yer average Pujols.
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| | | 694 | Boldwin
ID: 3944693
Fri, May 25, 2012, 03:31
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I do agree Zimmerman's current health is up in the air. His shoulder is barking. It wouldn't surprise me if they gave him a day off every week for a while or even a week off to see if it cleared up. I assume anyone who traded for Zimmerman would be taking him for the long haul as a keeper.
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| | | 695 | Boldwin
ID: 3944693
Fri, May 25, 2012, 03:38
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I gained five points in pitching off that performance. Moved within four K's of Great One. Into second place. Four and a half from the lead.
Play the 'company man' drop, Jay.
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| | | 696 | Boldwin
ID: 3944693
Fri, May 25, 2012, 03:58
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So tell me, Tree. Do you actually plan on keeping 'the Machine' for his entire big league career? Really? Cause that is so not like you.
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| | | 697 | Nerveclinic
ID: 52134819
Fri, May 25, 2012, 08:15
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Baldwin this may be your year and clearly I was wrong about Jeter.
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| | | 698 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Fri, May 25, 2012, 08:46
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Do you actually plan on keeping 'the Machine' for his entire big league career?
honestly hard to gauge. yea, he just had the worst two-month span of his career. but i'm also weighing that against a career of productivity.
i do believe i've tried to trade Pujols before. a couple seasons ago, when there were indications an injury might put him on the shelf, i tried to move him. no one was interested.
the right move at the right time would certainly work, and once again, Zimmerman and Haren is a fair deal. nothing wrong with it at all except for my own concerns about Zimmerman's health.
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| | | 699 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Fri, May 25, 2012, 08:47
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Wednesday trade and it finally clears on Sunday? wow... 5 days is kind of ridiculous.
no argument.
having a league vote like we do on all trades delays them. can't even push them through.
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| | | 700 | Boldwin
ID: 3944693
Fri, May 25, 2012, 12:28
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Nerve, thanx 8]
The prospects are blossoming together. The strongest prospective superstars I'm ever likely to have at any one time, Trout/Janssen/Strasberg/Zimmermann. Guys I've lugged around since they were 2o years old are finally hitting their prime. Molina with such a late career surge...catchers will do that if anyone. Jeter is such a stud. Never owned him before but now I know that this guy is underappreciated. So many extra things he does that aren't obvious. Kelly Johnson completely resurrected in Toronto. Whoda thunk Butler was gonna trounce Hosmer this year? My worst three pitchers are outperforming my top three half the time.
And still GO sits on top. I am very impressed.
I've won it before with a less talent. I've just missed #1 with clearly the best talent in the league before. But I will be shocked if I don't win it and I am in fact shocked with so many teams hanging with me or even [G.O.] seemingly impossible to pass for any length of time. I had assumed that as my early fantasy kryptonite fling with Liriano averaged out I would rise to the top but still struggling.
Wish I'da kept Jed Lowrie but that bench/dl situation...
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| | | 701 | Boldwin
ID: 3944693
Fri, May 25, 2012, 12:32
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Anyone else listen to Fantasy Focus?
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| | | 702 | Boldwin
ID: 3944693
Fri, May 25, 2012, 12:41
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Watch GO win based on that Tim Hudson vs Gio Gonzalez pick he was talking about during the draft. I definately underestimated Gio.
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| | | 703 | Boldwin
ID: 3944693
Fri, May 25, 2012, 12:46
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And I just knew I shoulda picked up Matt Joyce, not cause I needed OF at that point but to keep anyone else from that much late value. And there he sits on GO's roster.
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| | | 704 | Great One
ID: 2431114
Fri, May 25, 2012, 13:16
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I'm just a pain in your butt this season :0
The K's that Gio brings vs. Hudson are definitely a difference maker even when they are both throwing well.
I did essentially just trade 2 solid healthy players for a guy now out til the ASB, so that's a big hit. Although I do have Alonso waiting in the wings to callup and hopefully offset Markakis.
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ID: 2431114
Fri, May 25, 2012, 13:18
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My picks in 15th-21st have been the difference makers with all good starts -- Worley, Volquez, Broxton on the pitching side and Encarnacion, C.Davis and Joyce for hitting.
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| | | 706 | Great One
ID: 2431114
Fri, May 25, 2012, 13:20
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and I guess that killer draft with 40 minutes prep did ok -- re:post 156, nerve jinxed it
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| | | 707 | C1-NRB
ID: 46462514
Fri, May 25, 2012, 15:07
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Wish I'da kept Jed Lowrie but that bench/dl situation...
I did a doubletake and triple check to make sure he was okay to pick up. I think I'm going to like what he brings to my lineup, for this season at least.
And just as a gentle reminder:
Freese is still available for the appropriate price. Is the rider the thing that is scaring everyone off? C'mon guys; get creative! It really won't take that much to get him.
He went through a slump for a bit, but he's got a multiple hits, runs, and RBI as well as a homerun in his last two games.
We've reached the 25% mark of the season and he's still on my bench!
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| | | 708 | Boldwin
ID: 3944693
Fri, May 25, 2012, 20:25
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So make some really cheap offers. I don't have too much 'cheap' on my team to offer.
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ID: 597172916
Fri, May 25, 2012, 20:55
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Not starting Brandon Morrow against Texas turned out to be a good move.
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| | | 710 | Great One
ID: 450312813
Sat, May 26, 2012, 08:58
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C1 - maybe you should trade Freese to your own team and start him over that scrub Ryan Roberts. Why in the world have you been starting that guy all year over Freese in the first place?
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| | | 711 | Great One
ID: 450312813
Sat, May 26, 2012, 09:02
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and how did you not find room for Freese in your 2 UT spots on a regular basis - even just recently when you've had injuries to Morneau, Bonifacio and Torii... instead you've had Kottaras and Franceour playing? I don't get it.
Your team log says you really haven't started Freese once all year which I find hard to believe there wasn't one day you could get him in there either based on matchups, off days, injuries etc.
My advice summary -- just keep Freese and start playing the guy.
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Leader
ID: 171572711
Sat, May 26, 2012, 09:39
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He made some pact or something.
...............
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| | | 713 | C1-NRB
ID: 574242610
Sat, May 26, 2012, 11:25
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It's because of what he did to the Rangers in Game 6.
He will not see the field for my team and I will not cut him. See comments 880-888 of this thread:
Freese will not play for my team.
This is personal.
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| | | 714 | Boldwin
ID: 3944693
Sat, May 26, 2012, 11:35
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Phfft...and they think I am obsessed with Bill Clinton.
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| | | 715 | Great One
ID: 450312813
Sat, May 26, 2012, 11:46
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Haha... I love your commitment to it.
You should have just not kept him then cause he's screwing up your team! :) I'll try and come up with a trade offer for you to take him off your hands.
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| | | 716 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Mon, May 28, 2012, 09:21
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and I guess that killer draft with 40 minutes prep did ok -- re:post 156, nerve jinxed it
It's a long season brah. Let's not get ahead of ourselves.
Anyway I stand by that statement, is it the draft that has you out front? Or your keepers. I don't see many draft picks setting the world on fire for you
Joyce, Encarnocian, and Gio are the only 3 sniffing the top 100 on player rater.
I have Kipnis, Dunn, Jackson, Desmond and Beachey and I am sitting in 6th place. So I am thinking it wasn't the draft that got you this far.
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| | | 717 | Boldwin
ID: 43492714
Mon, May 28, 2012, 10:35
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Let's also not kid ourselves that GO has only spent 40 minutes learning the MLB.
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| | | 718 | Great One
ID: 512531316
Mon, May 28, 2012, 14:02
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Well 2 of my keepers Lester and Crawford are certainly hurting me more than anything and Hanley was swapped for the similarly under performing Tulo - so yeah its mainly been the draft.
Markakis, Chris Davis are also ranked 120 but have been traded away.
Gio and Encarnacion were not just good picks but are both top 10 ranked overall right now. Joyce has been very good for almost a last rounder (although I'd like to move him cause I dislike Rays).
Worley was a very good pick pre-injury -- he has a 3.07 era and a K per IP. Broxton in the 17th was awesome... his rank isn't great but he's still a closer with 10 saves and an ERA under 2.00
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| | | 719 | Great One
ID: 512531316
Mon, May 28, 2012, 14:09
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This is true I've spent many more minutes learning baseball... but it is about the extent of my draft prep. And it would have been shorter - but literally was just clicking names for 40 minutes to put them into Kafenatid. I really had my cheat sheet ready to roll in 10 minutes and work straight off that - best available player.
Baffles me all these people who have these analytics and excel spreadsheets and formulas that they need to make picks. I don't get all that.
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| | | 720 | Boldwin
ID: 43492714
Mon, May 28, 2012, 22:01
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Marmol comes off the DL the same day Lilly goes on the DL. Giving me two weeks to see if Marmol edges his way back to the closer role. Considering Dolis was sent down to the minors to make way for Marmol on the roster, Marmol could get his job back soon. Real soon. If he does, what a charmed life I am am leading this season.
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| | | 721 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Tue, May 29, 2012, 12:14
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Pancho Middlebrooks is Trees keeper.
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| | | 722 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Tue, May 29, 2012, 12:49
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i figured that would happen sooner or later.
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| | | 723 | Pancho Villa
ID: 597172916
Tue, May 29, 2012, 13:16
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Sorry bout that. Didn't cross my mind seeing him up and down several times. Shoulda checked.
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ID: 574242610
Tue, May 29, 2012, 23:55
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Middlebrooks is Trees keeper.
Didn't cross my mind seeing him up and down several times. Shoulda checked.
Oops. Me, too.
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| | | 725 | Boldwin
ID: 43492714
Wed, May 30, 2012, 05:18
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#719
I'm calling BS.
I ask you to listen to the podcast on ESPN Fantasy Focus [click on download] and listen to them play the 'Name Game'. [they don't do it every day but if you listen to three days' worth of shows you for sure will run across it] Consider the amount of time they put into sifting players into their proper place in the rankings, and tell me GO can do in 40 minutes for the whole league what takes them two minutes per player.
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| | | 726 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Wed, May 30, 2012, 10:21
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i agree with GO. i don't put much prep into my drafts, mostly because i've been doing this for so long.
i usually get a fantasy baseball magazine and read it in the "library", and that's the extent of it. i know which players i want or what positions i have to fill, and go for it.
i don't have formulas and spreadsheets, just knowing i have to get the best players available, taking into consideration things like positions scarcity.
GO and I have had many a talk about building a fantasy team, and both he and i have done it very well, adopting teams that were cellar dwellers, and turning them into contenders.
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| | | 727 | Great One
ID: 2431114
Wed, May 30, 2012, 10:51
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I did a slow basketball draft with a guy at work who had one of those fancy spreadsheets - and he would put a proposed pick in and it would change all his projections around based on 3-yr avgs and there were bar charts about where that potential player would put him and all this crap.
Blew my mind how much people put into it. The guy finished in the bottom half of the league so I'm not sure how much it helped. Those tools don't take into account the human aspect of it - like a player is getting a chance to start (so you don't have 3 yr avgs) or they are in a contract year or something like that.
I do have guidelines I generally stick to for each draft and positions and categories I target in every draft, but I don't need hours to come up with that strategy. Its just been cultivated over the years. i.e. I usually start with RB's in NFL, PF/C types in NBA etc.
Sounds to me like Tree's "library" is similar to my main library. Nice and quiet in there.
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| | | 728 | Boldwin
ID: 43492714
Wed, May 30, 2012, 12:16
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Either you spend a great deal of time spread out most of the year weighing players and updating your personal rankings...whether or not that gets written down, or...
Or you cram for the draft and put the time in in a furious 'out-hustle the league' last two weeks prep-fest...
...or you actually suck at this and have this deer-caught-in-the-headlights expression as you can't figure out how these other guys are outplaying you.
I understand some guys are all gut feel and instinct and some are more deliberate and plodding and have to do the calculations longhand.
I'm not in the spreadsheet/strictly by-the-numbers category, but I kinda agonize over these decisions. I think you miss too much flying strictly by the seat of your pants. And I think guys who claim they are all snap-judgement instinct...aren't showing all their cards and actually are spending a lot of time absorbing and mulling this stuff before they do the 40 minute magic act.
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| | | 729 | Great One
ID: 2431114
Wed, May 30, 2012, 12:50
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And I also did the majority of my picks for Kafenatid off my phone on the run since I was in the middle of moving in March and traveling every weekend, so there is only so much you research from a phone.
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| | | 730 | Boldwin
ID: 43492714
Wed, May 30, 2012, 13:04
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So basically when I beat you this year, it doesn't count because you were busy this year. 8>
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| | | 731 | Great One
ID: 2431114
Wed, May 30, 2012, 13:31
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Its funny, I actually did better in NFL this year despite travelling so much (we drive a few hours to the in-laws every weekend, sick father in law to tend to).
We'll see if the hands off approach works in MLB too.
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| | | 732 | Boldwin
ID: 43492714
Wed, May 30, 2012, 15:06
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sick father in law to tend to).
Been there, done that. How's he doin?
in NFL this year
That's the sport that does not reliably reward the best team.
the hands off approach
Yeah yeah yeah, you've got a decade of study behind that 'on-the-fly' stuff.
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| | | 733 | Great One
ID: 2431114
Wed, May 30, 2012, 15:50
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Doing ok, just tired all time with chemo...
I do agree there is more luck in NFL than any sport, I feel the best team usually wins in fantasy baseball (and hoops) but NFL is such a crap shoot.
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| | | 734 | C1-NRB
ID: 574242610
Thu, May 31, 2012, 00:24
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For about a month I had as many major league homeruns as Albert Pujols. But once I started telling people that, I jinxed myself.
I'm going to try it again.
The season is just over 25% complete and I have as many major league wins as Cliff Lee with 8 fewer starts. Can I keep up the pace?
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| | | 735 | Boldwin
ID: 43492714
Thu, May 31, 2012, 10:40
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Found on the interwebzListen to me, and listen good: Francisco Liriano's six shutout innings and nine strikeouts against the A's on Wednesday were just another part of his devious plot to suck you into his neverending web of fantasy disappointment. Just. Say. No. Truer words never spoken.
I finally broke the code on Liriano. [after he tried to break my breakout year early on]
Liriano has zero confidence. Every time out is like his first callup to the bigs. He has no reserve of confidence from the last good pitch, the last good outing, the last good year, his good years.
So his stuff is either electric unhittable even if it goes straight over the middle of the plate and he cruises today or the batters play with him like a ragdoll and he gets knocked all around the yard that day. He can't handle the slightest deflation of his confidence.
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| | | 736 | Building 7
Leader
ID: 171572711
Thu, May 31, 2012, 12:57
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C1 - How fast can you throw your fastball? What other pitches do you have?
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| | | 737 | C1-NRB
ID: 574242610
Thu, May 31, 2012, 21:40
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I haven't had a gun on my fastball in a while, but I've developed a pretty good split-finger, slider that moves down and in on righthanded batters, and a get-me-over knuckleball.
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| | | 738 | Boldwin
ID: 43492714
Fri, Jun 01, 2012, 00:54
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Fun facts:
Highest player rater pitcher last 30 days:
Gio 'how did I miss this guy' Gonzalez
Ninth most valuable pitcher last 30 days:
Bud Norris before today's 9 ER in 1.2 IP gets factored in.
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| | | 739 | Boldwin
ID: 43492714
Fri, Jun 01, 2012, 01:31
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Came back down to earth last 30 days:
#324 Jeter - 12 1 5 3 .293
#308 Freese - 13 5 13 0 .211
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| | | 740 | Building 7
Leader
ID: 171572711
Sat, Jun 02, 2012, 08:47
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split-finger, slider ....That's pretty good for our league. I used to be able to throw a curveball. It didn't work every time, though. A lot of times it would spin, but pretty much go in a straight line. Sutcliffe said they called that pitch a cement mixer, which is a pretty good description. Moyer won a game at 49 so maybe you can do it. I had a hard time playing softball at 49.
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| | | 741 | Boldwin
ID: 43492714
Sat, Jun 02, 2012, 12:17
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Kenley Jansen
Jansen has 36 strikeouts in 24 innings this season.
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Ernesto Frieri
He is the first player in major-league history to have as many as 12 consecutive appearances without allowing a hit to begin his time with a new team.
45K's in 25IP
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Curtis Granderson
Since the start of 2011, his 58 home runs are the most by anyone in the majors.
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Carlos Gonzalez
.331 average (40-for-114) with 11 doubles, one triple, 10 home runs, 26 RBI, 26 runs scored, a .417 on-base percentage and .728 slugging percentage. He tied for the league lead in the month with 22 extra-base hits and ranked third with 26 RBI. has never won the Player of the Month Award.
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Carlos Marmol
Fri. pitching line:
1.0 / 0/ 0/ 2/ 0.00/ 0.00
fifth closer?
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| | | 742 | Boldwin
ID: 43492714
Sat, Jun 02, 2012, 12:23
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Alphonso Soriano - 8HR in 30 days
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ID: 4711362616
Mon, Jun 04, 2012, 18:15
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Ernesto Frieri
He is the first player in major-league history to have as many as 12 consecutive appearances without allowing a hit to begin his time with a new team.
45K's in 25IP
Yeah I never should have dropped him but I was juggling 6 closers with only 5 slots. Same reason I dropped Soriano (who I picked up right after Mariano was hurt) when it looked like Robertson was going to close. Just to hard to hold on to so many with such a small bench.
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Curtis Granderson
Since the start of 2011, his 58 home runs are the most by anyone in the majors.
since he was second in the majors last year and he is tied for second this year that's not hard to fathom. If you go back one more year he's probably barely top 10 since there were 42 guys with more home runs then him, but I don't know how to look it up.
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Carlos Gonzalez
.331 average (40-for-114) with 11 doubles, one triple, 10 home runs, 26 RBI, 26 runs scored, a .417 on-base percentage and .728 slugging percentage. He tied for the league lead in the month with 22 extra-base hits and ranked third with 26 RBI. has never won the Player of the Month Award.
2 words Coors Field
Home 10 hr 32 RBI .389 BA
Away 4 hr 13 RBI .266 BA
Player of the month? Or player of the month at home?
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Carlos Marmol
Fri. pitching line:
1.0 / 0/ 0/ 2/ 0.00/ 0.00
fifth closer?
2012
14 IP 18 BB .502 ERA 2 Saves 2 Blown Saves
Yeah he will probably close though because there is no one better.
Cheers...
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| | | 745 | Boldwin
ID: 43492714
Mon, Jun 04, 2012, 21:48
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1) Exactly on Marmol. They don't have anyone better if he's healthy and they aren't going to go out and get anyone better either. There's a limit to how many save chances on that team tho.
2) No useful point going back too far on Granderson. He is a creation of his new Yankee hitting coach who fixed him bigtime.
3) I don't see Carlos Gonzalez leaving Colorado so that's a mute point from a fantasy perspective.
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| | | 746 | Great One
ID: 512531316
Mon, Jun 04, 2012, 23:48
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A switch flipped with Granderson the last month or two of 2010, he was struggling in NYY til that time. Then they did something to his swing and he's been crazy good since.
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| | | 747 | C1-NRB
ID: 574242610
Tue, Jun 05, 2012, 21:33
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The season is just over 25% complete and I have as many major league wins as Cliff Lee with 8 fewer starts. Can I keep up the pace?
Apparently I can keep pace with him.
I don't have as many strikeouts as he does, though. So, there's that...
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| | | 748 | Nerveclinic
ID: 52134819
Thu, Jun 07, 2012, 07:01
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I am looking to make trades.
I have to offer Adam Dunn, asdrubal Cabrera, dale Thayer, and possibly Robinson Cano but only for top 10 to 12 value minimum. (for Cano)
Looking for a top tier SP or possibly outfielder.
I don't need closers or any IF players.
Use email above not yahoo league email.
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| | | 749 | biliruben
ID: 59551120
Sat, Jun 09, 2012, 14:45
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How massively will Liriano implode tomorrow? I don't believe I've ever had the pleasure of owning him.
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| | | 750 | biliruben
ID: 59551120
Sat, Jun 09, 2012, 14:46
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Dodgers visit Seattle for the first time in like 12 years, and they get no-hit. Hopefully Kershaw will return the favor this afternoon! Got great seats behind the plate.
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| | | 751 | Boldwin
ID: 1557712
Sat, Jun 09, 2012, 17:20
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Alphonso Soriano: 10 HR in 30 days.
Someone should give that guy a big contract.
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| | | 752 | Boldwin
ID: 1557712
Sat, Jun 09, 2012, 17:22
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Correction. He had 11 HR on the 30 day stat-tracker and he just hit another one today.
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| | | 753 | Boldwin
ID: 1557712
Sat, Jun 09, 2012, 17:31
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And Mike Trout with 4 steals in 2 days. I think it was Buster Olney who predicted he would be the best player in MLB by the end of 2013.
"and from what I've seen I believe em."
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| | | 754 | Building 7
Leader
ID: 171572711
Sat, Jun 09, 2012, 22:01
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OK. I'll pick up Liriano's opponent, Dempster, and hope for that Liriano implosion.
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| | | 755 | biliruben
ID: 41431323
Sun, Jun 10, 2012, 01:01
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That's the spirit. Sounds like you are familiar with Liriano's broken promise.
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| | | 756 | Building 7
Leader
ID: 171572711
Sun, Jun 10, 2012, 07:18
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That would be Boldwin.
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| | | 757 | C1-NRB
ID: 574242610
Sun, Jun 10, 2012, 16:30
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The season is close to 30% complete and I have as many major league wins as Cliff Lee with 10 fewer starts. Can I keep up the pace?
Still going. Shouldn't the reverse jinx have kicked in by now?
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| | | 758 | biliruben
ID: 59551120
Mon, Jun 11, 2012, 07:55
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Owie.
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| | | 759 | Building 7
Leader
ID: 171572711
Mon, Jun 11, 2012, 09:13
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Do y'all have a list of players that are banned from your fantasy teams, or that you will not draft. I do. It's not a lifetime ban, but a year or two, should teach them a lesson. I wonder how many lists Liriano is on.
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| | | 760 | C1-NRB
ID: 451120913
Mon, Jun 11, 2012, 12:32
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Do y'all have a list of players that are banned from your fantasy teams
I have one! I have one!
As of late I've begun to rethink my position on David Freese. He still won't play for my team, but the time has come to take it to the next level. You only have yourselves to blame.
I would have traded him if the right offer had come along, but I've decided that he shall not play for any team, ever, if I have anything to say about it.
So for anyone that was thinking about packaging a last round draft pick with a Nolan Ryan Snow Monkey, a mid-round prospect pick with a 1995 Bob Hamelin baseball card that has a mustache drawn on it with a blue Sharpie, or your first round picks the next 3 years with Prince Fielder, Josh Hamilton, and Felix Hernandez, save yourself the time and effort. No deal will be made.
As soon as the Rangers win the World Series, though, I might change my mind. But I make no promises in that regard.
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| | | 761 | biliruben
ID: 41431323
Tue, Jun 12, 2012, 11:01
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He He. I was just about to push the offer button with prince for freese until I read this.
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| | | 762 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Fri, Jun 15, 2012, 08:14
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I am really kicking myself. I drafted RA Dickey but dropped him early on after one bad outing. That's the kind of mistake that can really damage your season.
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| | | 763 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Fri, Jun 15, 2012, 09:08
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i thank you for him. he's obviously the anchor of my revamped pitching staff. the only SP that i drafted that is still on my active roster is Shaun Marcum.
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| | | 764 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Fri, Jun 15, 2012, 12:07
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And that is the one thing I really need right now, is a solid SP. The streaming has been a disaster as I've just had the worse luck even when picking match ups carefully.
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| | | 765 | C1-NRB
ID: 135461614
Sat, Jun 16, 2012, 15:46
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I still have as many major league wins as Cliff Lee with 11 fewer starts. I suspect many of you do, too.
Is it bad that when I saw the BlueJays score the first of three runs in the bottom of the eighth I started rooting "for" a bullpen blowup?
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| | | 766 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Wed, Jun 20, 2012, 02:17
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After having Jacoby Ellsbury (Arguably my best player) out almost the entire year, as well as my only drafted closer, Sergio Santos, Brandon Beachy's (My #1 starter this year) torn elbow is beginning to feel like the proverbial nail in the coffin. (If the coffin wasn't yet shut.)
By the way I would also add to the list of woes my own stupid move of dropping RA Dickey, not just blaming injuries.
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| | | 767 | biliruben
ID: 41431323
Wed, Jun 20, 2012, 22:02
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I'm trying desperately to recall my reasoning for trading verlander. Temporary insanity.
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| | | 768 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Thu, Jun 21, 2012, 01:23
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Brandon Beachy, we'd like you to meet Tommy John.
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| | | 770 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Fri, Jun 22, 2012, 20:04
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Baldwin I drafted him, I just got trigger happy at the start of the season when he had one bad start...
dont get me started...
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| | | 771 | Boldwin
ID: 34555233
Sat, Jun 23, 2012, 05:02
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Don't stop. No one is enjoying discussing the 2012 season more than I.
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| | | 772 | C1-NRB
ID: 65272421
Sun, Jun 24, 2012, 22:27
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This is getting ridiculous.
I am still tied with Cliff Lee in Wins this season, but I have 4 fewer losses.
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| | | 773 | Boldwin
ID: 385382422
Mon, Jun 25, 2012, 13:32
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Just for mercy sake, I'm wondering if we need to start an intervention whenever someone bites the fantasy kryptonite and picks up Liriano.
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| | | 774 | Building 7
Leader
ID: 171572711
Tue, Jun 26, 2012, 23:12
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Parker is my prospect. I was going to start him tomorrow.
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| | | 775 | Building 7
Leader
ID: 171572711
Wed, Jun 27, 2012, 00:03
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I was going to drop Balfour, if the commissioner can fix it. I'm out.
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| | | 776 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Wed, Jun 27, 2012, 01:40
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done
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| | | 777 | Building 7
Leader
ID: 171572711
Wed, Jun 27, 2012, 07:41
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Thanks you guys. It looks like it worked. Parker will probably get shellacked now.
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| | | 778 | biliruben
ID: 59551120
Wed, Jun 27, 2012, 11:15
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Sorry. Must have typed wrong when Cntl-F'ed.
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| | | 779 | Boldwin
ID: 27652318
Wed, Jul 04, 2012, 08:59
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Tree
Did you also get a ruling request from Mr Bobo? Wanna discuss it here?
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| | | 780 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Wed, Jul 04, 2012, 13:09
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i looked through my emails and i am not seeing anything. i'm game to discuss it here, or via my email above. if you want to brief me by forwarding the email first to give me a chance to look at it, that might help...
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| | | 781 | Boldwin
ID: 27652318
Wed, Jul 04, 2012, 13:26
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He posted the question on the Poliboard yahoo league board. He wants to drop a prospect and transfer Hultzen from his active to his prospect list.
Short answer is no as far as I remember.
We don't allow in-season transfers onto the prospect list, tho I am not sure if we allow drops from the list. Care to add anything?
I know someone requested a discussion quite a bit earlier along these lines. Perhaps it involved the trade between C1 and Bobo for Hultzen? Perhaps over this exact player's future status?
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| | | 782 | Boldwin
ID: 27652318
Wed, Jul 04, 2012, 13:28
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See discussion around #551.
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| | | 783 | Great One
ID: 36214199
Wed, Jul 04, 2012, 14:03
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I think the easy way to remember is that a player can only be acquired and designated a prospect during the prospect draft.
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| | | 784 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Wed, Jul 04, 2012, 14:11
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as i understand the rules, there's no provision to allow a player to be moved from the regular roster, to the prospect list.
conversely, i don't believe there is anything that strictly forbids it, although i may be wrong on this count.
this is a tough one, and one of those things that i think comes with the flood gates we opened by allowing prospects to be moved from the prospect list to the regular roster and back and forth.
logic dictates that a player should also be allowed to be moved from the regular roster to the prospect list, even if he wasn't drafted as a prospect.
this is a bit of a conundrum, and maybe i'm over thinking it. we've always run this league as some sort of modified democracy, however, so i think it's important for others to chime in.
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| | | 785 | Great One
ID: 36214199
Wed, Jul 04, 2012, 14:34
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You can move prospects back and forth but i dont see how you can arbitrarily start calling a random minor league player your prospect by adding him to your roster and then sliding over to your prospect list. I think it would make the prospect draft pointless too.
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| | | 786 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Wed, Jul 04, 2012, 14:51
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GO - in my experience, most prospects aren't part of the Yahoo game. that's the point of the prospect draft.
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| | | 787 | C1-NRB
ID: 1869423
Thu, Jul 05, 2012, 00:09
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It's an Independence Day Miracle!
Cliff Lee wins! Cliff Lee wins!
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| | | 788 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Thu, Jul 05, 2012, 17:48
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You are only allowed 5 prospects and they are only the 5 you draft at the start of the year, or a prospect someone else drafted that you trade for.
If you trade for a prospect you have to drop one of the existing 5.
This has been the rule since the start of the league.
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| | | 789 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Mon, Jul 09, 2012, 04:28
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Trade with Romney's, Jorge.
Asdrubel Cabrera for Wainwright
Also my 5th round pick for his 7th
This is a big gamble for me, that Wainwright will get his mojo back, and that Ian Desmond will be a solid replacement for an otherwise keeper Cabrera.
It also means I am stalking for a run at the title in the second half but there is a lot of power ahead of me in the standings.
I need Ellsbury to come back strong. Gonzo to remember who he is and Wainwright to come through.
Too bad I dropped Dickey or this would be a lot easier.
Oh yeah, no more injuries please...
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| | | 790 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Mon, Jul 09, 2012, 09:47
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i need Lincecum to be even half as good as he once was. he may be the worst SP in the NL right now. how does someone fall so far, so fast, so hard?
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| | | 791 | Boldwin
ID: 2664163
Mon, Jul 09, 2012, 21:35
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When you are hot, it just seems so easy. Haren goes on the DL. I pick up Zach McAllister for a spot-start from the worst team in baseball, (tho not lately) and I'm watchin him thru 4 innings. No hits, 8 K's, goes on to a 5.2 IP shutout.
It's not like I was phoning it in the last four years. I was trying just as hard, no cigar.
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| | | 792 | Boldwin
ID: 2664163
Thu, Jul 12, 2012, 02:59
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I was wondering how prematurely one would have to act to pick up my closer from last year, Leo Nunez Juan Carlos Oviedo. Now we know. About six weeks till he gets his first close opportunity by my estimate.
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| | | 793 | Nerveclinic
ID: 52134819
Thu, Jul 12, 2012, 11:13
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He's already pitching rehab games, elegible to come back on July 23rd and they intend to have him ready to pitch as soon as eligible. That is less then 2 weeks from now so not sure where you are getting 6 weeks. Ozzie has already announced he will share closing duties. Probably closer to 3 weeks. That said I will drop him if something better comes along.
It's also very possible he will suck, but if you snooze in this league with closers you lose.
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| | | 794 | Building 7
Leader
ID: 171572711
Thu, Jul 12, 2012, 13:30
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I was wondering what happened to that guy, Nunez.
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| | | 795 | Boldwin
ID: 2664163
Thu, Jul 12, 2012, 19:23
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I am inclined to believe that the management will be loathe to throw in the towel on the Heath Bell investment so Bell will have to fail spectacularly [which he frequently has this year] to open the door. This could easily delay the inevitable for a month.
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| | | 796 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Thu, Jul 12, 2012, 21:29
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It seems the Miami Marlins will turn to a closer by committee approach starting directly after the All-Star break on Friday. This of course comes with the conclusion that struggling closer Heath Bell will be demoted from his full-time closer's role. This was reported by Ozzie Guillen during his weekly radio segment on the Dan Le Batard show. Here's MLB.com's Joe Frisaro on the potential options:
Juan Carlos Oviedo will be another option when his suspension ends on July 23. Oviedo is dealing with issues relating to his identity. Formerly Leo Nunez, Oviedo is currently pitching in Class A Jupiter. He is likely to get a few innings in at Double-A before rejoining the Marlins.
link
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| | | 797 | Boldwin
ID: 2664163
Fri, Jul 13, 2012, 08:36
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Yeah, I had been following his situation weekly at least, but after Marmol quickly got his job back and I had 5 closers, there just wasn't any room for Oviedo and I eased up on following his situation. I guess I should have snagged him anyway for trade bait.
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| | | 798 | Building 7
Leader
ID: 171572711
Fri, Jul 13, 2012, 10:31
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Leo Nunez was a better pitcher than Oviedo.
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| | | 801 | Building 7
Leader
ID: 171572711
Fri, Jul 13, 2012, 11:39
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I'm joking. But, maybe he can't pitch as well under the new alias.
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| | | 802 | Nerveclinic
ID: 52134819
Tue, Jul 17, 2012, 01:16
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Just dropped him as it was announced he as a sore elbow and I just don't have the room.
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| | | 803 | Boldwin
ID: 18643169
Tue, Jul 17, 2012, 09:22
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Nunez, there is a guy who must really feel he can't catch a break right now.
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| | | 804 | biliruben
ID: 59551120
Tue, Jul 17, 2012, 09:38
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Being dropped by Nerve's team: the ultimate humiliation.
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| | | 805 | Boldwin
ID: 18643169
Tue, Jul 17, 2012, 12:55
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Barry Bonds: scapegoat paying individually for the collective crimes of the steroid era.
Oviedo: scapegoat paying individually for the collective guilt of latin america scouting standard operating procedure. Accumulating bad vibes wherever he goes.
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| | | 806 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Tue, Jul 17, 2012, 14:22
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Barry Bonds: scapegoat paying individually for the collective crimes of the steroid era. (Because he was such an arrogant prick and no one could stand him except for DF Giant fans)
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| | | 807 | Boldwin
ID: 18643169
Tue, Jul 17, 2012, 17:14
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It's called baseball, not kiss-up.
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| | | 808 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Thu, Jul 19, 2012, 12:23
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Wouldn't it be funny, if after Baldwin finally gives up on him, Liriano finally gets his Mojo back?
Last 30 days.
IP 39.2 W 2 K 48 ERA 2.72 WHIP 1.11
That's an 11K per 9IP rate
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| | | 809 | Tree
ID: 106561911
Thu, Jul 19, 2012, 12:59
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i have long maintained that fantasy baseball, more than any other fantasy sport, is a marathon, not a sprint.
sometimes, you have to roll the dice and have faith. imagine if i'd give up on Pujols - who didn't hit his first homer until May 6 or so. he's now more or less on par with his career averages, and he's also always been a better player in the second half.
while Baldwin's got a solid team, i don't think he finishes on top.
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| | | 810 | Great One
ID: 2431114
Thu, Jul 19, 2012, 13:40
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I'm looking to trade for another good SP... would move picks, a closer and/or Lester (if its 2 SP).
I can't continue to wait on Lester to figure things out this year. But he's still a proven 28 year old in his prime who I would think a team out of it would have interest in buying low on.
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| | | 811 | C1-NRB
ID: 451120913
Thu, Jul 19, 2012, 15:16
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imagine if i'd give up on Pujols - who didn't hit his first homer until May 6 or so. he's now more or less on par with his career averages, and he's also always been a better player in the second half.
Or if I'd given up on Cliff Lee. He picked up a win right before the All Star break! With luck, he'll get another one on September 29, or there abouts.
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| | | 812 | Boldwin
ID: 18643169
Thu, Jul 19, 2012, 16:05
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Yeah it's a marathon, and worse, we have this ridiculous short bench.
The ridiculous short bench already destroyed my 2-base insurance.
I drafted Kelly Johnson and thanks for the 10HR-10SB contribution Kelly, but I knew he would slump and kill my BA eventually so I drafted his insurance. Kelly Johnson has just given me a month of .193 BA and the insurance I bought namely Aaron Hill has delivered a month of .343 BA for the guy right below me in the standings, B7, thanks to this stupid short bench. Had to drop Hill.
I drafted Alex Rios who has put up
.316
HR 13
RBI 51
Runs 52
SB 14
For Nerve thanks to this stupid short bench.
Granted I caught some breaks. Molina has exceeded. Trout exceeded my already sky high expectations. I've managed thru pitching injuries without too much loss in production. Lucked out in closer prospects that clicked. Haven't had to shuffle thru bad pitchers much. My biggest pitching problems have been Haren and Latos inconsistancy. Love the K's but these guys must pitch thru injuries with overconfidence cause they go out there with back strains and stuff they should be sitting thru.
Anyway.
All in all I'd rather be the guy up by 13 points even if it is a marathon.
I've got six categories where I am in first or second place. I am glad I don't have to be the guy plotting to come up with 13 more points in the face of that.
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| | | 813 | Boldwin
ID: 18643169
Thu, Jul 19, 2012, 16:22
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Further I got my SB machine, Trout, well into the season. I got my 3,4,5 closers well into the season. Do you really think I'm going to lose SB and Save points or am I more likely to add the 1.5 points and finish first in those categories?
Between WHIP, ERA and Wins, Wins is the only one I realistically stand a chance to lose several points in. Look at the way the standings are spread where I am in those categories.
Perhaps pride will come before the fall but I will be truly amazed if it does this time.
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| | | 814 | Great One
ID: 2431114
Thu, Jul 19, 2012, 16:31
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If you, Tree and I all agree out bench is too short... is it the rest of the league that's against us?! :)
I agree you got this locked up.
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| | | 815 | Boldwin
ID: 18643169
Thu, Jul 19, 2012, 17:02
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Nerve and bili (mainly) think they can out-hustle/out-stream us and have just barely won the votes to not expand the bench so far.
And they really do a great job of streaming when they are in contention. No argument there.
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| | | 816 | Tree
ID: 136411916
Thu, Jul 19, 2012, 17:42
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one more bench spot could only help this league.
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| | | 817 | Boldwin
ID: 18643169
Thu, Jul 19, 2012, 18:14
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I don't have a single batter on my bench or room for even one pitcher I can sit while he struggles.
I can barely get my IP in shape for Strasberg's coming IP limit. We need at least bench spots for several infielders, an outfielder and a pitcher. Granted I have 5 closers but man this feels a lot worse than just one bench slot short.
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| | | 818 | Tree
ID: 436291917
Thu, Jul 19, 2012, 18:30
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i'd say it's the 5 closers. you should work out a trade.
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| | | 819 | Boldwin
ID: 18643169
Thu, Jul 19, 2012, 19:06
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I'd rather lock down the 14 points in saves but Marmol is available if I had a good offer. The teams most in need of closers don't have the trade-bait.
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| | | 820 | Great One
ID: 2431114
Fri, Jul 20, 2012, 09:21
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You won't be locking down 14 points in saves unless I trade one away.
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| | | 821 | Boldwin
ID: 18643169
Fri, Jul 20, 2012, 20:11
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Yeah, my 4.5 closers will eventually top your 3.3 closers. I'd be amazed if Bell even gets a third of his team's saves going forward.
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| | | 822 | Boldwin
ID: 18643169
Sat, Jul 21, 2012, 05:06
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Statline you were not expecting
Ryan Zimmerman last 30 days
22 9 25 1 .343
Ranked 3'd highest hitter last 30 days.
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| | | 823 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Sat, Jul 21, 2012, 16:05
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Baldwin now it's we need more bench "spots"? plural? I thought the discussion was one?
You act like you are the only one having to live with the rule, we are all playing the same way.
I was going to say yesterday what is the big deal, drop Karsten there are better pitchers on the waiver wire anyway. (Then you dropped him)
If you are going to see a player like Karsten a precious and undroppable of course the bench is too small.
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| | | 824 | Boldwin
ID: 18643169
Sat, Jul 21, 2012, 19:46
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Karsten was just a placeholder for Haren. The bench is way too small.
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| | | 825 | biliruben
ID: 59551120
Sun, Jul 22, 2012, 10:52
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Closers for sale. Picks or keepers in return. Not interested in pitchers, except perhaps a top-5 starter.
Also interested in moving keeper level middle-infielders. Castro and Phillips available for the right price.
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| | | 826 | biliruben
ID: 59551120
Sun, Jul 22, 2012, 10:54
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Gotta get rid of some of this talent just pining away uselessly on my far-to-deep bench.
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| | | 827 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Mon, Jul 23, 2012, 01:55
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I am just cursed this year. A little over a week after trading Asdrubel Cabrera, Ian Desmond heads to a prolonged DL stint.
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| | | 829 | Boldwin
ID: 18643169
Mon, Jul 23, 2012, 07:37
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Having offended the bench god...
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| | | 830 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Mon, Jul 23, 2012, 16:45
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Having offended the bench god... Clearly
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| | | 832 | Building 7
Leader
ID: 171572711
Sat, Jul 28, 2012, 08:49
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Jerry Blevins (4-0) was given credit for the win by the official scorer because Oakland closer Ryan Cook was ineffective in the eighth.
link
So, Cook finished the 8th, and was charged with one run. They went to the 9th down 9-8 and scored 6 runs in the top of the 9th. Blevins waltzes in for the 9th and holds a five run lead and gets the win.
Are you kidding me? This happens about every day in MLB. Cook does not get the win because the official scorer thought he was inneffective? Is this even in the rule book?
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| | | 833 | Boldwin
ID: 18643169
Sat, Jul 28, 2012, 10:14
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That's 'a tasty Jake Blevins' to listeners of Mathew Berry.
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| | | 834 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Sat, Jul 28, 2012, 12:35
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Cook does not get the win because the official scorer thought he was inneffective? Is this even in the rule book?
yep, it is.
10.17c
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| | | 835 | Boldwin
ID: 18643169
Sat, Jul 28, 2012, 12:52
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I'm starting to get a feeling about Mike Trout. This is the guy you wanna start catching as many games of his as you can right away because it's like 'How much did I kick myself for missing some early Micheal Jordon games".
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| | | 836 | Great One
ID: 450312813
Sat, Jul 28, 2012, 13:35
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Or catch them now before he comes back down to earth.
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| | | 837 | Boldwin
ID: 18643169
Sat, Jul 28, 2012, 14:45
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Keeper league.
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| | | 838 | Building 7
Leader
ID: 171572711
Sat, Jul 28, 2012, 16:12
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Rule 10.17(c) The official scorer shall not credit as the winning pitcher a relief pitcher who is ineffective in a brief appearance, when at least one succeeding relief pitcher pitches effectively in helping his team maintain its lead. In such a case, the official scorer shall credit as the winning pitcher the succeeding relief pitcher who was most effective, in the judgment of the official scorer.
Rule 10.17(c) Comment: The official scorer generally should, but is not required to, consider the appearance of a relief pitcher to be ineffective and brief if such relief pitcher pitches less than one inning and allows two or more earned runs to score (even if such runs are charged to a previous pitcher).
They never apply that rule. Plus it says he shall do it....he must do it. I guess it depends on his definition of ineffective. That scorekeeper must have Jerry Blevins on his fantasy team.
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| | | 839 | Perm Dude
ID: 3210201915
Sat, Jul 28, 2012, 20:08
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Cook looks like he came in with two outs, gave up two straight singles, hit a guy, gave up another single, then got the out.
So he allowed two inherited runners to score, plus one of his own as well.
I'm not sure about what "effective" means but I don't think Cook's performance will be being used as an example anytime soon. A relief pitcher who allows both guys on base to score, plus another, while getting only one out and hitting a guy, probably shouldn't get the W, IMO.
Of course, I don't think guys who blow saves should get a W, either.
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| | | 840 | Building 7
Leader
ID: 171572711
Sat, Jul 28, 2012, 21:01
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I'm not claiming he was effective. He sucked. The only out he got was thrown out at home. I'm saying, guys are ineffective all the time and still get credit for the win.
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| | | 842 | Boldwin
ID: 18643169
Sun, Jul 29, 2012, 05:04
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226 points of conservative dominance and individual excellence in the top two slots. Let's give the next available slot to a conservative and see if the trend continues.
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| | | 843 | Building 7
Leader
ID: 171572711
Sun, Jul 29, 2012, 07:44
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I think I liked Boldwin better when he was in the middle of the pack. I have to admit he's doing pretty good this year. He got his entire team to peak en masse in 2012. That may be redundant.
Thanks for the link, Tree. It looks like that scoring decision is rare.
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| | | 844 | Tree
ID: 53555306
Sun, Jul 29, 2012, 10:14
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sure thing B7...it's interesting stuff, for sure. much more interesting than Baldwin's trolling.
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| | | 845 | Boldwin
ID: 18643169
Sun, Jul 29, 2012, 13:56
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It would be an even more interesting league with Boxman in 3rd place, Azdbacker in 4th.
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| | | 846 | Boldwin
ID: 18643169
Sun, Jul 29, 2012, 13:57
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I wonder why Wilmer didn't bite?
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| | | 848 | Boldwin
ID: 18643169
Sun, Jul 29, 2012, 15:48
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Talked myself into keeping Tim Hudson.
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| | | 849 | Boldwin
ID: 18643169
Mon, Jul 30, 2012, 22:30
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Now that's a pickup. Rajai Davis homers on his first AB on my team.
When yer hot, yer hot.
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| | | 851 | Boldwin
ID: 18643169
Thu, Aug 02, 2012, 22:40
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Hated to let Latos go. He prolly stops blowing up now that he's on Nerve's team.
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| | | 852 | Boldwin
ID: 18643169
Fri, Aug 03, 2012, 07:04
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121.5 pts
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| | | 853 | Tree
ID: 17039238
Fri, Aug 03, 2012, 10:26
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that's what i had the year i won it, edging out SZ's 120.
but 123 points has also not been enough to win in previous years, so one can never tell.
as for this season, i'm looking to move Teixeira, Mauer, Brett Lawrie, Jose Reyes, Cespedes, and others.
i hate to admit it, but it's probably time for some turnover on this team. some contender may want some of those guys, but it's got to be the right offer.
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| | | 854 | Boldwin
ID: 18643169
Fri, Aug 03, 2012, 10:36
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121.5 pts
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| | | 855 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Sat, Aug 04, 2012, 08:47
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Baldwin: Hated to let Latos go. He prolly stops blowing up now that he's on Nerve's team.
First game with Camel Jockeys...
IP 7.1 W 5K's 0.00 ERA 0.95 WHIP
Your a prophet this year even when bitten.
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| | | 856 | Boldwin
ID: 18643169
Sat, Aug 04, 2012, 09:08
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I got another prophesy I don't like so much. At least five teams have a solid shot at passing me in K's so the rest of my setup better stay strong. There is some chance I pick up a couple points in WHIP and one in Saves. Wins could provide a wildcard as well either way.
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| | | 857 | Great One
ID: 450312813
Sat, Aug 04, 2012, 13:42
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I'm gonna need another SS... draft pick for sale.
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| | | 858 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Sun, Aug 05, 2012, 13:35
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I'm gonna need another SS... draft pick for sale.
Tell me about it, I trade Asdrubel Cabrera and Desmond goes down a week later.
Baldwin stop with the humble brag, no one is going to catch you unless half your team gets injured.
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| | | 859 | Boldwin
ID: 18643169
Sun, Aug 05, 2012, 14:45
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Not so much false humility. Don't forget I am over my IP rate to make up for Strasburgs's early finish and the gap between teams is pretty close in K's.
Tree still has a standing prediction I will lose and I suspect GO is merely attempting to lure me into a false sense of security.
You dun like trash-talk? Cause I have only begun.
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| | | 860 | C1-NRB
ID: 30718515
Sun, Aug 05, 2012, 16:18
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Called up Mike Olt under provisions of the new Prospect Rule.
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| | | 861 | Boldwin
ID: 18643169
Tue, Aug 07, 2012, 04:59
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Now see there? Look at that night GO just had. At this point if I lose 5 pts in K's, he picks up 5 pts, and it's a nail-biter. Could happen in one day.
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| | | 862 | Boldwin
ID: 57242212
Wed, Aug 22, 2012, 15:24
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Now at 233 pts of conservative dominance.
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| | | 863 | PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Sun, Aug 26, 2012, 10:29
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I figured when I came back that Baldwin would have already picked up Roger Clemens.
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| | | 864 | Boldwin
ID: 7712269
Sun, Aug 26, 2012, 11:00
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Oldie but a goodie!
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| | | 865 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Wed, Aug 29, 2012, 03:12
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I will change my vote to agree with one extra bench slot for next year.
I have to think we probably have a majority vote on that, no one has added the votes up I don't think.
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| | | 866 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Wed, Aug 29, 2012, 03:14
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I just picked up Jarod Parker. Player formally known as B7's prospect. He is well past the 125IP limit (141IP)
Will likely drop him after this start so you are welcome to have him back B7.
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| | | 867 | Building 7
Leader
ID: 171572711
Wed, Aug 29, 2012, 20:55
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You can keep him. I didn't have room, plus he was going downhill. I got some good use out of him.
Parker was a prospect when I took over this team, and I kept him. Then he had TJ surgery and was out a year so I cut him. Then 2 years ago I got him as a prospect again. This year, he was on my roster about 15 days and started about 10 games. And just last week he lost prospect status, after being a prospect my entire time in the league.
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| | | 868 | Nerveclinic
ID: 52134819
Thu, Aug 30, 2012, 00:01
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I have no intention of keeping him,he's not that good, I am just eating some innings since he's pitching against Cleveland! Although I wish it were a home game.
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| | | 869 | Great One
ID: 2431114
Thu, Aug 30, 2012, 08:57
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Nerve - why do your posts get so much extra room? posting from an iPad or something?
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| | | 870 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Thu, Aug 30, 2012, 23:22
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GO
When I post I add a blank line at beginning and blank line at end.
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| | | 871 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Thu, Aug 30, 2012, 23:22
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no blank line looks like this
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| | | 872 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Thu, Aug 30, 2012, 23:23
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I find the blank line at beginning and end makes a post easier to read.
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| | | 873 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Fri, Aug 31, 2012, 07:20
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Sigh Well Mr Parker didn't exactly come through as hoped.
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| | | 874 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Sat, Sep 08, 2012, 07:18
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Pancho does your comment that you are never doing a slow draft next year imply you are resigning from the baseball league if we do our traditional slow draft? Or was that only referring to football.
I think we've always done a great job of starting early and we have never had an issue finishing well before the season.
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| | | 875 | Boldwin
ID: 2985279
Sat, Sep 08, 2012, 11:11
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Ask him again after he forgets the ten day forum shutdown.
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| | | 876 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Wed, Sep 19, 2012, 13:23
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Wow lots of streaming going on.
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| | | 877 | Boldwin
ID: 37834198
Wed, Sep 19, 2012, 13:48
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This league never goes dead. Gotta love it.
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| | | 878 | Boldwin
ID: 15821200
Thu, Sep 20, 2012, 01:21
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Wow, Soriano, you don't see two saves in the same day from the same pitcher very often.
Can't say I've ever.
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| | | 879 | Boldwin
ID: 15821200
Thu, Sep 20, 2012, 01:25
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Considering that every pitcher I own except my closers, ran out of gas at the end of the year, and I've nearly had to bench or replace them all...
...this is gonna go down to the wire and it is not gonna be easy.
Not to say, GO isn't managing magnificently besides.
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| | | 880 | Great One
ID: 2431114
Thu, Sep 20, 2012, 11:09
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Its going ok for this lowly guy in the 47%. But you'll probably hold on.
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| | | 881 | Boldwin
ID: 15821200
Thu, Sep 20, 2012, 11:58
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Do you actually read the Poliboard, GO?
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| | | 882 | Great One
ID: 2431114
Thu, Sep 20, 2012, 12:21
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I enjoy reading some of the things you say. Quite hysterical.
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| | | 883 | Boldwin
ID: 15821200
Thu, Sep 20, 2012, 12:36
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I'd say I aim to please...
...but of course I don't. I aim to hit you between the eyes with a 2x4 of truth so unmistakable even a liberal sits up and takes notice.
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| | | 884 | Great One
ID: 2431114
Thu, Sep 20, 2012, 13:08
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Until we consider the source.
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| | | 885 | Boldwin
ID: 15821200
Thu, Sep 20, 2012, 13:12
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All I can do is plant the seeds.
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| | | 886 | Tree
ID: 158342012
Thu, Sep 20, 2012, 15:53
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I aim to hit you between the eyes with a 2x4 of truth...
you should improve your aim. you're well below the Mendoza line with not just your aim, but with your truth.
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| | | 887 | Building 7
ID: 87592712
Thu, Sep 20, 2012, 17:42
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If you're in the 47%, you probably have a lot of time to spend on fantasy sports.
#878 Mayday Malone got two saves in one day. He had to get Boog Powell for the last out, too.
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| | | 888 | Boldwin
ID: 15821200
Thu, Sep 20, 2012, 20:10
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Nice research. 8]
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| | | 889 | Tree
ID: 418152017
Thu, Sep 20, 2012, 21:26
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re 887:
In September of that first season, the Red Sox were five games out with 10 to play when rookie Malone saved both ends of a doubleheader against the Baltimore Orioles. He threw only seven pitches. It was the undisputed heavyweight highlight of his career. Malone entered the first game with two out in the bottom of the ninth, runners at second and third, and the Brobdingnagian Boog Powell stepping into the box.
“I could feel the wind from his warmup swings,” Malone once told ex-Sox teammate Dave Richards, a sportscaster on Channel 13 in Boston. “I mean, the guy had the heaviest bat in the league. Papers were full of him. I figure the only way I’m gonna get this guy, as good as he’s going, is if I challenge him on the first pitch. If I try to get cute, he’s gonna kill me.” Boog grounded to third to end the first game, and Malone struck him out to end the second game—while Don Buford, the potential tying run, danced off first base. Forever after, no matter how unwarranted, Sam Malone would be Mayday.
from the SI article on Malone's illustrious career.
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| | | 890 | Great One
ID: 512531316
Thu, Sep 20, 2012, 22:36
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If you're in the 47%, you probably have a lot of time to spend on fantasy sports.
I do... but so do my retired parents and grandparents and my cousin in the military who are all in the 47% and don't pay federal taxes - but I am still better at fantasy sports than them too despite all comprable free time.
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| | | 891 | Boldwin
ID: 38202019
Thu, Sep 20, 2012, 22:45
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I'm just hoping you don't have enuff time to rub it in when you beat me and Mike Trout.
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| | | 892 | Great One
ID: 512531316
Thu, Sep 20, 2012, 22:51
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I've been tinkering with my concession speech actually.
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| | | 893 | Building 7
Leader
ID: 171572711
Thu, Sep 20, 2012, 23:55
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George Ruth, was the Babe, but Sam Malone was the Babe Magnet.
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| | | 894 | C1-NRB
ID: 218152023
Fri, Sep 21, 2012, 00:16
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I aim to hit you between the eyes with a 2x4 of truth so unmistakable even a liberal sits up and takes notice.
You're doing it wrong:
Basic Instructions
The important thing is the logo in the upper, lefthand corner. You can search the archives for a more politically charged comic, if you want to; I just pulled this one up because it has "politics" in the title.
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| | | 895 | Boldwin
ID: 38202019
Fri, Sep 21, 2012, 00:58
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Looks promising. 8]
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| | | 896 | Tree
ID: 53840219
Fri, Sep 21, 2012, 10:59
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Liberals don't serve in the military. they're all communists, marxists, hippies, and homos.
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| | | 897 | Boldwin
ID: 47819260
Wed, Sep 26, 2012, 01:26
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Eight days left and plenty of categories up in the air.
GO makes big SB push the last month, and I'm barely staying 5 ahead.
I'm close to taking a point in R from Nerve.
Taxman and Nerve dogging me in K's.
I'm close to PV and Nerve in Wins, but not counting on that.
WHIP is the real wildcard. Many managers are bunched and one day's bad pitching could cost 4 points.
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| | | 898 | Boldwin
ID: 47819260
Wed, Sep 26, 2012, 01:28
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I did manage to beat back GO in saves. I don't think he passes me again, tho he did several days ago. I'm 4 up atm.
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| | | 899 | Boldwin
ID: 38847285
Fri, Sep 28, 2012, 06:47
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Does anyone know how the system handles the pitching limit? What happens if you have a starter pushing you over the limit by a couple innings? Does it count the actual innings of that pitcher up to the limit? Does it throw out the win if he wins? Does it throw out the entire outing?
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| | | 900 | biliruben
ID: 21841115
Fri, Sep 28, 2012, 07:33
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In the past, any pitching outings are included in your stats as long as you are under the limit on that day.
So if you have .1 innings left and you run out 5 starters on that day, their stats all count, even if you run up 50 extra innings.
I potentially lost a title to azd learning this, iirc.
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| | | 901 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Fri, Sep 28, 2012, 11:15
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Bili is absolutely correct.
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| | | 902 | Boldwin
ID: 38847285
Fri, Sep 28, 2012, 14:03
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Wow. Glad I asked. Yahoo should have that warning plastered all over the place the last week.
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| | | 903 | weykool
ID: 8657121
Fri, Sep 28, 2012, 14:06
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I think it works the same for other positions as well.
If you have 1 OF game left it will count all your OF scoring for that day.
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| | | 904 | Boldwin
ID: 484290
Sat, Sep 29, 2012, 06:29
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And he's going to pass Tree in K's too, before it's over. Watch.
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| | | 905 | Tree
ID: 57842011
Sat, Sep 29, 2012, 08:57
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Yahoo should have that warning plastered all over the place the last week.
maybe if it was a new rule...but it's been there since pretty much day one.
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| | | 906 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Sat, Sep 29, 2012, 14:59
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but it's been there since pretty much day one.
In fact we discussed it a lot last year.
Waiver wire is picked pretty bare anyway.
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| | | 907 | Boldwin
ID: 428282914
Sat, Sep 29, 2012, 15:41
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Nerve
What was that you were saying about "Baldwin stop with the humble brag, no one is going to catch you unless half your team gets injured."?
I guess the whole crew getting season ending dead arm a month early qualifies. Otherwise I can't blame injuries really. I just lost ten days of Carlos Gonzales, but I doubt I lose because of his categories and I've been pretty fortunate on the injury front otherwise. Zimmerman being out a quarter of a season is a given. You know that going in.
Gio Gonzales, freakin' Gio Gonzales. How did that guy not register for me?
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| | | 908 | Boldwin
ID: 308313010
Sun, Sep 30, 2012, 13:04
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Ah, yesterday was so promising. I had three pitchers in the fourth and fifth, only one run given up between them all, and then the season went down the tubes.
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| | | 909 | Boldwin
ID: 478163018
Mon, Oct 01, 2012, 16:03
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I can't count IP's obviously. Kenley Jansen. Good thing I didn't have room to keep him next year.
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| | | 910 | Great One
ID: 2431114
Mon, Oct 01, 2012, 16:06
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That Napoli pickup was pretty damn lucky for me. I almost benched him for Doumit when I saw he wasn't starting the 1st game but then thought he might get an extra pinch hit appearance or something.
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| | | 911 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Mon, Oct 01, 2012, 17:46
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I can't count IP's obviously. Kenley Jansen. Good thing I didn't have room to keep him next year.
I was wondering what planet you were on.
I can't keep him either but maybe a trade with someone for draft position.
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| | | 912 | Boldwin
ID: 58939311
Wed, Oct 03, 2012, 19:02
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Stattracker says I am tied for first atm. Not buying it for a moment.
What a day yesterday. I had three starters who were fabulous, all winning. Betancourt comes in and gives up a three run HR to close out my pitching season. So close, so far.
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| | | 913 | Boldwin
ID: 58939311
Wed, Oct 03, 2012, 19:14
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But then why whine? GO today just had...
Papelbon face one batter and get a 54 ERA for the day...
A.J.Griffin go 2.2 IP and get a 13.50 ERA...
A.J.Burnett go 5.2 and get a 6.35 ERA...
He's still got Vogelsong vs Dodgers...
Mendoza vs Detroit...
Vogelsong has just righted the ship for two games after a bad 7 game stretch. Mendoza faces a tough one in Scherzer/Det.
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| | | 914 | Great One
ID: 483133023
Wed, Oct 03, 2012, 21:21
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Yeah, mistake made there. Shouldn't have started anyone today. There was no reason to.
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| | | 915 | Boldwin
ID: 58939311
Wed, Oct 03, 2012, 21:57
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I also didn't need to start a closer yesterday, but normally they help your WHIP and ERA.
I saw what you were doing with steals weeks ago, and had a player picked out Starling Marte who would have given me at least 4 extra steals but I needed the pitching rotation slot more than I needed the steals.
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| | | 916 | Boldwin
ID: 58939311
Wed, Oct 03, 2012, 21:59
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And there goes Punk catching me in SB's today as well.
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| | | 917 | Great One
ID: 512531316
Wed, Oct 03, 2012, 22:02
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If it makes you feel better you couldn't add Marte anyway as he was Tree's prospect. I almost added him when he came back off the DL.
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| | | 918 | Boldwin
ID: 58939311
Wed, Oct 03, 2012, 22:04
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PV juuust catches me in wins today, Nerve catches me in Runs atm. So close.
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| | | 919 | Boldwin
ID: 58939311
Wed, Oct 03, 2012, 22:04
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Actually that does make me feel better.
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| | | 920 | Boldwin
ID: 1194146
Thu, Oct 04, 2012, 08:26
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Congratulations, Great One. That was writing the textbook.
Now I get to run Trout up against you next year with about 4 less keepers, as this year was a confluence of good things coming together for me.
No Kenley Jansen and 4 other closers for me next year, most likely.
But at least I now have a great textbook to guide me.
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| | | 921 | Great One
ID: 2431114
Thu, Oct 04, 2012, 08:49
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Thanks. Maybe I'll get some help from Tulowitzki, Crawford and Lester next time around myself. Not sure how I did that without 3 of my keepers participating. Well Tulo wasn't a keeper, traded Hanley for him, but it was a keeper slot nonetheless and only got 75 AB's out of him.
My post keeper MVP's were draft picks Encarnacion, Gio and adding AJ Burnett (there's a shocker!).
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| | | 922 | Tree
ID: 53555306
Thu, Oct 04, 2012, 08:54
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809,812,813 are good reads.
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| | | 923 | Great One
ID: 2431114
Thu, Oct 04, 2012, 08:56
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and now the fun stuff...
re:302 Boldwin - Hudson - Yeah, Ill take a guy with a 3.22 ERA 2.14 WHIP last year and you can take the next hype that comes along and hope he gets to that level.
re:305 GO - Well thats hard to compare, but Ill take Gio Gonzalez who you passed on to get Hudson.
As you already mentioned above, if you took Gio instead of Hudson you would have won easily. No doubt. The easy - you left 3 definite points in K's on the table with that choice and would have had a some various more points in W's, ERA, WHIP.
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| | | 924 | Boldwin
ID: 1194146
Thu, Oct 04, 2012, 09:10
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You put the finger right on the hole in my game during the draft. Gio Gonzalez, Gio freaking Gonzalez. I did not have as secure a handle on my pitchers as I did early in the Poliboard league. The first pitcher I've taken in the draft has been a bust for years now. Altho I do have the two best pitching keepers I've ever had, so there's that.
I think we picked up two good managers this year, with rebuilding projects on their hands obviously but they did some good things.
Everyone else spent some time in the vicinity of 90 pts at one point or other and there isn't any group of elite managers I'd rather be competing against.
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| | | 925 | Great One
ID: 2431114
Thu, Oct 04, 2012, 09:10
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how about these insights from Nerve...
re: 858 nerve - Baldwin stop with the humble brag, no one is going to catch you unless half your team gets injured.
re:716
GO - and I guess that killer draft with 40 minutes prep did ok --> nerve - Its a long season brah. Lets not get ahead of ourselves.
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| | | 926 | Great One
ID: 2431114
Thu, Oct 04, 2012, 09:13
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I think we likely to pass an extra bench spot for next year too, right? So that's progress. Anyone in particular against it? Tree, Boldwin, GO, nerve I know were for it...
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| | | 927 | Boldwin
ID: 1194146
Thu, Oct 04, 2012, 09:48
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I will say to my credit I never for one second succumbed to GO's attempts to lull me into complacency. I knew he was coming for me with plenty up his sleeve.
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| | | 928 | Great One
ID: 2431114
Thu, Oct 04, 2012, 09:55
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You absolutely were keeping an eye on me all along I know - despite what people like Nerve were saying about you having it locked up. I was just staying quiet even though I also knew I had plenty of points on the board.
While the draft debate of Hudson/Gio proved to be a difference maker -- it wouldn't have been enough to overcome if not for my late season SB push mainly by Everth Cabrera - I think he made the biggest difference. That guy gave me 11 SB's in just 14 starts in Sept.
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| | | 929 | Boldwin
ID: 1194146
Thu, Oct 04, 2012, 10:11
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You had more closely contested categories than I did. I could either address the one point in SB and one point in Runs on the batting side...If I had an extra batting slot and could have micromanaged it for SB's...I could have thrown away great batters in hot streaks for empty R/SB types, wasn't real keen on that idea.
...or concentrate on 4 points in wins, 4 points in WHIP and 4 points in ERA that were up for grabs.
Wins, ERA and WHIP are just brutal categories to manage in a short time period when your pitchers are dead-arming at the end of the year. I don't care how good of a manager you are, no one can guarantee he won't have a bad 2-3 weeks in those.
I can remember someone pulling his hair out for several months pleading for his pitchers to finally give him some wins, I'm looking at you GO.
Nerve spent many fruitless months streaming pitchers before it started to click for him.
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| | | 930 | Great One
ID: 2431114
Thu, Oct 04, 2012, 10:16
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I started to climb in pitching too when I quit hoping Lester would remember how to pitch and didn't start him much of the second half (while he took up a bench spot)... and also Gio and Verlander were lights out in Sept.
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| | | 931 | biliruben
ID: 21841115
Thu, Oct 04, 2012, 10:35
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Congrats GO. Thanks for saving us from a decade of reminders of a tilted crown!
Nice season, Boldy. I am guessing you were one trade for a starter away. Everyone has their achilles heel. Coulda had Yu for a 2nd or 3rd if you'd asked. Was shopping him.
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| | | 932 | Boldwin
ID: 5393249
Thu, Oct 04, 2012, 10:57
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Point taken.
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| | | 933 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Thu, Oct 04, 2012, 14:46
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Congrats GO. Nice job
I went back and looked at your draft again. I still believe it was not your draft that won it, it was the work after the draft.
Gio and Encarnacion were the only two highly leveraged picks.
I think you worked hard during the season, and really put it together at the end. looking at your team now it's somewhat hard to completely understand how you won. (although I am sure you know how)
Baldwin you have the best keeper in baseball.
That was a pretty devastating downfall. Although I think really Tree's prediction was wrong. He seemed to imply with certainty you didn't stand a chance when in reality you were right there until the last day. It was fun watching the pennant race here.
Cheers
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| | | 934 | Tree
ID: 47949413
Thu, Oct 04, 2012, 15:03
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Although I think really Tree's prediction was wrong. He seemed to imply with certainty you didn't stand a chance when in reality you were right there until the last day
my prediction that it was a marathon and not a sprint was wrong?
did you think i meant to imply he would drop from first place within a few weeks?
i was pretty clear in my statement, and i was right. it wasn't until the last few days that GO surpassed Baldwin, and even then, it was back-and-forth and very tight.
but i've played fantasy sports with GO for a very long time, in lots of genres. i know his style. i know he plays from behind - hell, i led wire-to-wire in our fantasy hoops league, going for a three-peat, and he beat me on the last day of the season to de-throne me.
Baldwin had a great fantasy season, and he's right - he had some phenomenal players, and will for a long time.
but it's a marathon, not a sprint. and GO stretched his neck out at the finish line.
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| | | 935 | Great One
ID: 2431114
Thu, Oct 04, 2012, 15:07
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Looking at chart view in Standings (especially the Interactive version) is pretty interesting. I kind of bottomed out around 90 points in June and then steadily climbed back up.
I started fixing SB's in July getting up to 10 points there and then got those final 2-3 points in Sept when I added like 6 guys that steal bases.
A month into the season I had a ONE in W's and somehow turned that mess around to a perfect 14.
I lead saves the majority of the year and then the last month when Boldwin got close I let him have it and focused my energies elsewhere figuring that one point wasn't worth the fight. I think that was a major factor.
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| | | 936 | Great One
ID: 2431114
Thu, Oct 04, 2012, 15:10
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Damn, I forgot about stealing the Jeepers Keepers hoops league from Tree this year, no wonder he didn't register the league yet!
That was like a 5 point swing in one day to jump from 3rd and steal 1st. Been a good year for these last second comebacks.
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| | | 937 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Thu, Oct 04, 2012, 19:40
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Tree my prediction that it was a marathon and not a sprint was wrong?
I didn't say that.
"while Baldwins got a solid team, I don't think he finishes on top."
yeah he didn't "finish on top", he was right there until the last day, he had an excellent chance of winning, so yes, I think you were wrong. (now Tree will emphatically argue why he was, and is always right)
My biggest negative was stolen bases. When Jacoby Ellsbury suffered a major injury at beginning of the year, I was screwed and needed to adjust. The difficulty is, being a keeper league, It was difficult to just drop a couple of quality potential keepers to pick up a couple average players who are good at SB's. I knew what I needed to do but didn't want to give up power for SB.
In the end it wouldn't have mattered the pitching never came through, particularly after Beachy went down.
Going into off season not a bad pool of keepers to pick from
C Weiters
1B Adrian Gonzales (Hope he bounces back?)
2B Cano
SS Ian Desmond
OF Austin Jackson
OF Alex Rios
OF Holliday
OF Ellsbury
SP Grienke
SP Wainwright
SP Scherzer
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| | | 938 | Tree
ID: 36950418
Thu, Oct 04, 2012, 20:05
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"while Baldwins got a solid team, I don't think he finishes on top."
yeah he didn't "finish on top", he was right there until the last day, he had an excellent chance of winning, so yes, I think you were wrong. (now Tree will emphatically argue why he was, and is always right)
i'm still trying to figure out why you're saying i'm wrong.
i said Baldwin wouldn't finish on top, and he didn't finish on top.
there's nothing wrong about that statement.
i never said anything about his chances - it was obvious he had an excellent chance of winning. i just said i didn't think he would. again, how is that statement wrong?
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| | | 939 | Boldwin
ID: 5393249
Thu, Oct 04, 2012, 20:28
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Baldwin you have the best keeper in baseball. - Nerve
I have the best batting keeper in baseball and the best pitching keeper in baseball.
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| | | 940 | Boldwin
ID: 5393249
Thu, Oct 04, 2012, 20:42
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Weiters, Rios, Kenley Jansen, Latos, Maholm, Tillman, Griffin, Nolasco, Lynn, Arroyo, Awakuma, Scutaro, Clayton Richard, Tim Hudson, Jarrod Parker, Bud Norris, Clay Buchholz, Ernesto Frieri, Edward Mujica, Big Fat Bartolo Colon...
Guys who were either keepers on my team at the end of last year or shared time on both my team and GO/Nerves.
Think of this as an episode of 'Big Family'.
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| | | 941 | Boldwin
ID: 5393249
Thu, Oct 04, 2012, 21:27
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Strasburg
Sure hope they shut him down healthy.
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| | | 942 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Fri, Oct 05, 2012, 03:41
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i'm still trying to figure out why you're saying i'm wrong.
I don't have the time to explain things that are taught in Logic 101
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| | | 943 | Tree
ID: 57842011
Fri, Oct 05, 2012, 09:49
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obviously, you've been studying Logic 101 from the Baldwin school of logic. first rule: When you can't properly defend your position, call someone a moron.
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| | | 944 | Great One
ID: 2431114
Fri, Oct 05, 2012, 09:52
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Sounds like its a pretty simple discussion -- Tree said he wouldn't finish on top and he didn't.
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| | | 945 | Boldwin
ID: 40937423
Fri, Oct 05, 2012, 10:55
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Considering we were even at one time on the stattracker on the last day, his prediction wasn't all that impressive.
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| | | 946 | Tree
ID: 53943513
Fri, Oct 05, 2012, 14:49
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Considering we were even at one time on the stattracker on the last day, his prediction wasn't all that impressive.
well, excepting i didn't make the prediction that day, but rather almost 3 months earlier, when you were easily a dozen points ahead of your nearest competition, if not more.
and never mind the fact that it was considerably more accurate than any prediction you've EVER made on these boards...
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| | | 947 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Fri, Oct 05, 2012, 17:42
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I have absolutely nothing to learn from Baldwin. Or You.
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| | | 948 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Fri, Oct 05, 2012, 17:47
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Tree said he wouldn't finish on top and he didn't.
I have such a brilliant response to this line but I don't want to get banned from the forum.
;)
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| | | 949 | Boldwin
ID: 40937423
Fri, Oct 05, 2012, 17:54
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We need an overflow from this forum where we can hear it unfiltered occasionally.
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| | | 950 | Boldwin
ID: 40937423
Fri, Oct 05, 2012, 17:55
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Make the comment on Yahoo, Nerve.
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| | | 951 | biliruben
ID: 21841115
Sat, Oct 06, 2012, 10:23
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I think we should all create a response to that. I can be nastiest!
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| | | 952 | Great One
ID: 512531316
Sat, Oct 06, 2012, 11:42
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Tree said OBAMA would finish on top and he will.
Just like GO did.
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| | | 953 | Building 7
Leader
ID: 171572711
Sat, Oct 06, 2012, 15:22
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Congrats to Great One. Many thanks to the new owners who joined this year. I did pretty good until August and was a couple points out of first, and then my team went downhill for a variety of reasons.
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| | | 954 | nerveclinic
ID: 4711362616
Sat, Oct 06, 2012, 16:16
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Make the comment on Yahoo, Nerve.
I don't want to get banned from Yahoo.
I think Billi and I must be thinking alike. ;)
Baldwin you would find it disturbing, just like the Damage Report Tracks...
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| | | 955 | Boldwin
ID: 4923615
Sat, Oct 06, 2012, 16:23
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Yahoo bans people? Just how Orwellian has this world descended already?
I may get disturbed but I don't flinch much, Nerve.
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| | | 956 | Great One
ID: 2431114
Thu, Oct 11, 2012, 13:30
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Tulowitzki = LVP
I'm guessing not a lot of other people won with Troy Tulowitzki on their roster.
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| | | 957 | PV in GJ
ID: 1010151016
Tue, Dec 11, 2012, 13:22
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Just got word that our newest manager, and my good friend Jorge Sagastume, became a new Daddy for the 3rd time about an hour ago. Sending along Poliboard congrats on the birth of Jon Alexander Sagastume.
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| | | 958 | Tree
ID: 5111421112
Tue, Dec 11, 2012, 13:42
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Woot! congrats to Jorge!
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| | | 959 | biliruben
ID: 21841115
Tue, Dec 11, 2012, 13:49
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Nice! Congratulations, Jorge!
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| | | 960 | C1-NRB
ID: 451120913
Tue, Dec 11, 2012, 17:59
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Congratulations! (Insert The League reference here)
I'll trade you David Freese for naming rights.
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| | | 961 | Boldwin
ID: 3211181118
Tue, Dec 11, 2012, 19:27
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Much happiness, Jorge.
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| | | 962 | Building 7
ID: 87592712
Wed, Dec 12, 2012, 15:18
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Welcome Jon Alexander. Congratulations.
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| | | 963 | GO
ID: 2431114
Fri, Dec 14, 2012, 16:07
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Must have been a tough few months for Boldwin with Obama & GObama both finishing on top as I predicted last spring.
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| | | 964 | Boldwin
ID: 1611461416
Fri, Dec 14, 2012, 17:51
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You can't imagine.
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ID: 120252515
Mon, Feb 04, 2013, 15:48
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I found this list in the commish note, thought I'd put here before it got lost. This was the latest date after my trade with Tree.
May 17 9:59am
UPDATED PROSPECT LIST 05/17/2012
Sags
Manny Banuelos
Taylor Green, IF, MIL
Jorge Soler, OF
Jameson Taillon
Shelby Miller
Bobo
Mason Williams, OF, NYY
Stetson Allie, P, PIT
Bubba Starling, OF, KC
JULIO TEHERAN, RHP, ATL
Trevor Bauer, SP, ARIZONA
Pancho Villa
Scott Gennett, OF, MIL
Drew Pomeranz, P, Col
Dayan Viciedo **
Chris Sale
Tyler Matzek **
biliruben
Xander Bogearts, SS, BOS
Nick Franklin, SS, SEA
Nolan Arenado, 3B, Col
Jean Segura, SS, Ana
Miguel Sano, Masher, Min **
taxman
Gary Brown OF, SF
Yasmani Grandal, C, SD
Martin Perez, P, TEX
Brett Jackson
Jurickson Profar
Baldwin
Cory Spangenberg, 2B, CHI
Henderson Alvarez, P, TOR
Tyler Skaggs, P, ARI
Kenley Jansen RP, LAD
Mike Trout OF, LAA
Coldwater Coyotes
Chestor Cuthbert
Wil Myers, OF, KC
Matt Adams, 1B, STL
Andrew Cashner, RP, SD
Zach Wheeler, P, NYM
Myboyjack
Zach Lee, P, LAD
Nick Castellanos, 3B, DET
Billy Hamilton, SS, CIN
Devin Mesoraco, C
Michael Ynoa, P **
C1-NRB
Jarred Cosart, P, HOU
Mike Olt, 3B, TEX
Leonys Martin, OF, TEX
Mike Montgomery **
Aaron Hicks
Tree
Starling Marte, OF, PIT
Will Middlebrooks, 3B, BOS
Dylan Bundy, SP, BAL
Anthony Rendon
Wei-Yin Chen, SP, BAL
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Christian Yelich, OF, MIA
Travis D'Arnaud, C, TOR
SS Manny Machado
OF Bryce Harper **
SP Jacob Turner **
Building 7
Anthony Gose, OF, TOR
Anthony Rizzo, 1B, CHI
Matt Moore - TB
Jarrod Parker - Oak
Jonathan Singleton - Hou
Great One
Mark Appel, SP
Mike Zunino, C, FLA
Francisco Lindor
Victor Roache, OF
Yonder Alonso, 1B, SDG
Nerve
Hak Ju Lee, SS, TB
Archie Bradley, SP, AZ
Gerrit Cole SP PIT
Casey Kelly SP SD **
George Springer OF HOU
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ID: 358252515
Mon, Feb 04, 2013, 21:06
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Thanks GO.
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ID: 3519420
Mon, Feb 04, 2013, 21:09
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obviously, some of these players (such as Trout and Harper) aren't prospect eligible.
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