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Subject: Poli Baseball '13 - Regular Season Discussion

  Posted by: GO - [120252515] Mon, Apr 08, 2013, 15:30
The Poli Baseball League Constitution
Yahoo Baseball
7 keepers; No more than 3 prospect keepers
Next Day Transactions - Daily/Tomorrow
Waivers - Continual Rolling List - 1 day waiver period
Trade Review - League Votes
Supplemental draft picks may be traded

Scoring Settings
Roster Positions: C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, OF, OF, OF, Util, Util 
SP, SP, RP, RP, P, P, P, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, DL, DL, DL
Max IP - 1250
Batters Categories: Runs (R), Home Runs (HR), Runs Batted In (RBI), Stolen Bases (SB), Batting Average (AVG)
Pitchers Categories: Wins (W), Saves (SV), Strikeouts (K), Earned Run Average (ERA), (Walks + Hits)/ Innings Pitched (WHIP)

Trade Deadline
Closest Sunday to August 31st

MLB Supplemental Draft
Draft Utility - Draftime
Player must be in the Yahoo database at the time he is picked in the supplemental draft.
No time limit initially, unless deemed necessary
Straight Draft, Reverse order of standings

Prospect Draft & Rules
Straight Draft, Reverse order of standings
To be conducted BEFORE the Supplemental Draft
Under 300 AB's or 125 IP to be draft eligible
You can retain up to 3 prospect eligible players from one season to next
There are 5 rounds in the prospect draft - minus a pick for each prospect you carry over.
Any player at any level (as long as they are under limits) can be drafted as prospect. College, International, Little League etc.

Prospects may be called up in-season and can be sent back and forth to prospect list until they meet the prospect thresholds.
If you drop them after they meet the threshold, any team is eligible to add them.
If they reach the threshold while not on the active roster you must call them up within 7 days or lose their rights
If a prospect reaches the limit within 7 days or regular season end they can only be kept as a regular keeper.
Prospect rights may be traded.
Prospect picks may be traded as long as receiving team has enough spots to make the draft pick at time of draft.
You can trade for as many prospects as you like - however you'll need to have 3 or less at the time of the Prospect Draft

Poli League Trophy Case
2008 Biliruben
2009 Tree
2010 Biliruben
2011 nerveclinic
2012 Great One


2013 Prospect List
Bobo
Mason Williams, OF
Bubba Starling, OF
Trevor Bauer, SP
Nick Castellanos
Kyle Crick, rhp, SF
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Jorge/Sags
Jameson Taillon
Shelby Miller
Taylor Green
Byron Buxton, OF, Twins
Roman Quinn SS Phils
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C1-NRB
Mike Olt
Aaron Hicks
Kevin Gausman, SP, BAL 
David Dahl, OF, COL
Hak-Ju Lee, SS, TAM
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WG airallnite
Billy Hamilton
Jose Fernandez, SP, MIA
Anthony Rendon
Carlos Correa, SS, Hou
Michael Wacha, SP, Stl
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Taxman
Yasmani Grandal. SD
Martin Perez, TX
Jurickson Profar, TX
Javier Baez, SS, Cubs
Lewis Brinson,OF, Tex
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Bili
Miguel sano
Xander bogaerts
Nolan arenado
Addison Russell, SS, Oak
 Adelberto Mondesi, SS, KC
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PV
Drew Pomerantz
 DiDi Gregorious SS Zona
Paco Rodriguez, P, LA Dodgers
Edward Salcedo, 3B, Braves
Dominick Smith, 1b, Serra HS
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Tree
Dylan Bundy
Starling Marte
Taijuan Walker, SP, Sea
Albert Almora, OF, Cubs
Nick Franklin, SS, Sea
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Bean
Wil Myers, OF, TB
Zach Wheeler, P, NYM
Danny Hultzen, P, SEA
Daniel Straily, P, OAK
AJ Griffin P OAK
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vampireweekend
Anthony Gose
Jonathan Singleton
Jake Marisnick, OF, MIA
Brandon Maurer, SP, SEA
Oswaldo Arcia OF, MIN
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Punk42AE/
Christian Yelich, OF, MIA
Travis DArnaud, C, TOR
Noah Syndergaard, P, NYM
Delino DeShields Jr., 2B, HOU
Lucas Giolito, P, WAS
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Nerveclinic
Archie Bradley, SP, AZ
Gerrit Cole SP PIT
Kyle Zimmer, P, Royals
Carlos Rodon NC State 
Ryne Stanek, SP Ark 
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Boldwin
Tyler Skaggs
Cory Spangenberg
Jorge Soler OF, Cubs
Chris Archer SP, TAM
Junichi Tazawa RP, Bos
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GO
Mark Appel, SP
Mike Zunino, C, SEA
Francisco Lindor, SS, CLE
 Kris Bryant, OF, University of San Diego
Allen Webster, SP, Boston Red Sox
 
1GO
      ID: 120252515
      Mon, Apr 08, 2013, 15:33 		Can a commish delete "Prospect List" and "Prospect List Updat" from the Yahoo homepage?

And also post the prospects into the Commish note (and I suggest alphabetizing it real quick first).
 
2Pancho Villa
      ID: 59645318
      Mon, Apr 08, 2013, 15:43 		I see Jorge has picked up Starling Marte, Tree's prospect. There has to be some way to take prospects out of the active database.
 
3GO
      ID: 120252515
      Mon, Apr 08, 2013, 15:52 		There is not. What I personally do is put the little WatchList flag next to all the prospects so once I check once I know not to consider them.

and the NA designation wouldn't even help because there are players like Marte that are in the bigs but still under the threshold.
 
4VampireWeekend
      ID: 11318822
      Mon, Apr 08, 2013, 23:18 		Could someone let my hitters know that the season has started?
 
5Tree
      ID: 40328723
      Tue, Apr 09, 2013, 01:11 		that's YOUR responsibility. :oD
 
6nerveclinic
      Leader
      ID: 05047110
      Tue, Apr 09, 2013, 03:24
Go thanks for your hard work on this...

 
7Boldwin
      ID: 3231898
      Tue, Apr 09, 2013, 09:27 		Managers who are not regular poliboarders need to be notified by post in the yahoo game messaging system.

[at what point do I post the 'over-reaction theater' presentation of "Trout's sophmore slump, OMG it's so terrible, ya think I can still get Jeff Samardzija from Nerve if I act quickly before he notices?"
 
8Tree
      ID: 53320910
      Tue, Apr 09, 2013, 11:22 		Managers who are not regular poliboarders need to be notified by post in the yahoo game messaging system.

no, they don't. they know we post here. or we can post there. or on Bean's board.

but i am not going to post everything in multiple places. we need to consolidate.
 
9GO
      ID: 82361413
      Tue, Apr 09, 2013, 11:26 		I think the Yahoo homepage is good for that cause in theory we should all go there once a day.

Or if anyone sees a prospect mistake add use the leaguewide email to get the message out ASAP.
 
10nerveclinic
      Leader
      ID: 05047110
      Tue, Apr 09, 2013, 11:30
ya think I can still get Jeff Samardzija from Nerve if I act quickly before he notices?"

So what are you saying? Samardzija for Trout?

I would consider that.
 
11Boldwin
      ID: 3231898
      Tue, Apr 09, 2013, 12:37 		Tree

We know who the non-poliboarders are. If they don't post here daily, you post where you know they look daily. Easy.
 
12Tree
      ID: 53320910
      Tue, Apr 09, 2013, 13:23 		sounds good to me. i'm happy to have less duplication.
 
13Bean
      Sustainer
      ID: 49934911
      Tue, Apr 09, 2013, 22:12 		Posted updated prospect file at Yahoo Groups to include Sags last pick. You can easily alphabetize it for yourselves ...its an xcel file. GO, can you put the constitution there as well?
 
14GO
      ID: 120252515
      Thu, Apr 11, 2013, 10:28 		I believe I posted it there, let me know if it looks right.
 
15Boldwin
      ID: 473201110
      Thu, Apr 11, 2013, 11:20 		I think it was the CBS podcast with Defino, they have what they call the worri-o-meter, tracking the player they are most nervous about. Each year I guess they rename it for the current nail-biters. A commenter suggested Hall-a-dial with increments measured in Lincecums. Which I thot was pretty sweet. Maybe a quake in the force could be a Haren.
 
16GO
      ID: 120252515
      Thu, Apr 11, 2013, 14:08 		So the fact that I have Lincecum AND Haren...
 
17Bean
      Sustainer
      ID: 49934911
      Thu, Apr 11, 2013, 14:31 		...doesnt compare to my torment with Hanley Ramirez (keeper who came up lame after draft start), Motte (injured after I selected him as 1st draft pick), Hamels and Posey.
 
18GO
      ID: 120252515
      Thu, Apr 11, 2013, 14:54 		Bit of insider background news... I traded your franchise Hanley a year ago in a package for Tulowitzki. I did ok despite Tulo's injury last year, hopefully he can stick around to contribute this year.
 
19Tree
      ID: 33591113
      Thu, Apr 11, 2013, 15:09 		Hanley, to me, has been a risky prospect for a couple years now.

after what happened to me last year with Mariano as my first rounder, i knew there was no way i could do that again.

in fact, looking at closers taken in the first round last year and this, you have Wilson, Mariano, Motte, Soriano, and Chapman.

Wilson - TJ Surgery
Mariano - Torn ACL surgery
Motte - looking more and more like he'll need TJ surgery
Soriano - tweak in his league

two guys who have missed a season or more. a third that may very will miss the season. one guy with a minor injury, and another that is healthy so far.

too much risk imho with taking a closer in the first round.
 
20Bean
      Sustainer
      ID: 49934911
      Thu, Apr 11, 2013, 16:45 		Though I havent yet seen the fabled trade deadline frenzy for closers, I think that truly competitive teams must have 2.5 closers to avoid a punt in saves.

Most 12-team drafts start the closer runs in round 7 or so, and they last like 3-4 rounds til they are all gone. Dont see how you can avoid picking closers right away unless punting or hoping to be the guy who is quickest on the pick up.
 
21Boldwin
      ID: 16361119
      Thu, Apr 11, 2013, 21:43 		This league has been very strange with the closer runs. I think it was two years ago, when the bottom third of the closers lasted 5 rounds after the run began. In the middle ages the run was 2-5 as far as I can remember. The first four years or so of this league the closer run began in round two and you were completely out of luck if you didn't have two after the third round finished.
 
22Boldwin
      ID: 16361119
      Fri, Apr 12, 2013, 01:14 		So the fact that I have Lincecum AND Haren... - GO

Means you made some interesting but big gambles. And that quake you were feein' made you sit Haren on your bench for his win today.
 
23nerveclinic
      Leader
      ID: 05047110
      Fri, Apr 12, 2013, 09:45

Dont see how you can avoid picking closers right away unless punting or hoping to be the guy who is quickest on the pick up.

It depends on the manager, whether they know they will have time to make the effort to get the quick grabs on possible closers. Not everyone in this league probably has the free time to invest in the process.

2012 left draft with 1 closer and finished 4th in saves.
2011 left draft with 1 closer and finished 3rd in saves.

If you were me, would you bother drafting more then 1?



 
24Bean
      Sustainer
      ID: 49934911
      Fri, Apr 12, 2013, 10:33 		Nerve, its guys like you that force me to make sure I leave the draft with good closers. I am never the guy to pick up FA closers in any rotoguru league. Other leagues its no problem though.

On another note, the Greinke ownership rollercoaster ride is still not over. I have him in another keeper league, tough to own this year.
 
25GO
      ID: 120252515
      Fri, Apr 12, 2013, 10:52 		We can add Tommy Hanson to my risky SP picks... I am starting him today.

I'm glad I didn't start Haren, cause outside of the W he was pretty bad.
 
26Boldwin
      ID: 15318124
      Fri, Apr 12, 2013, 11:12 		Tell me about Haren. He was my keeper for years, had him since the year he blossomed. I studied the up and coming tall hard throwing strikeout guys before that and had him every year he was a stud.

Guys break down. That guy pitched like he thot he was an ironman thru injuries. It's over for that guy unless he faces the music, forgets the pitching plans he used to use, reinvents himself as a soft-tossing control pitcher or something like that. And quits pitching injured.
 
27Tree
      ID: 40328723
      Sat, Apr 13, 2013, 17:29 		so..i'm in the market for a SS....
 
28Boldwin
      ID: 1836156
      Mon, Apr 15, 2013, 07:16 		Saturday Lester gives up one run in seven.

Strasburg has no earned runs in six.

Jason Hammel gives up 2 HR and gives me my only win for the day.

That little white ball takes crazy bounces also.
 
29Boldwin
      ID: 423541517
      Mon, Apr 15, 2013, 20:43 		This Jordan Zimmermann is kinda forcing my hand.

He's thru five innings, of one hit ball. Only 47 pitches. The guy thows a quality start 2/3 of the time. For a guy who'll only give you @150 K's I think I still need to keep him. Lester, Stras, Zimm, I've never ever kept 3 pitchers. And if Maholm keeps it up, I might have to trade him for a keeper batting upgrade just to retain some of that value over winter.
 
30Tree
      ID: 40328723
      Mon, Apr 15, 2013, 21:36 		i wish you luck in trading a 31-year-old pitcher with a lifetime ERA of 4.20 and a WHIP of 1.39, and who has never won more than 10 games in a season, for a "keeper batting upgrade".
 
31Tree
      ID: 40328723
      Mon, Apr 15, 2013, 21:37 		realizing that a trade accepted on Monday doesn't take affect until Friday. is this normal? have we always had that much time to wait once a trade is accepted?
 
32Boldwin
      ID: 423541517
      Mon, Apr 15, 2013, 22:08 		Yeah, take a look at Maholm's stats since just before he left Pit and especially when Atlanta got done fixing him and catching for him.

Take a look at his line this year. 20.1 3W's 20K's 0.00 0.79

Tell me he's nothing at the end of this season. Then take a look in the mirror and ask how you missed that.

---

I keep thinking Florimon should be a name in an Ender's SF novel.
 
33Tree
      ID: 40328723
      Mon, Apr 15, 2013, 22:17 		Yeah, take a look at Maholm's stats since just before he left Pit and especially when Atlanta got done fixing him and catching for him.

Take a look at his line this year. 20.1 3W's 20K's 0.00 0.79

Tell me he's nothing at the end of this season. Then take a look in the mirror and ask how you missed that.

his numbers in the two years since he left Pitt are good, not great. (before this season) 13 wins, 11 losses. an ERA around 3.65 and a WHIP around 1.20. 140 Ks in 190 IP.

solid. but not spectacular.
 
34Boldwin
      ID: 423541517
      Mon, Apr 15, 2013, 22:43 		Post-All Star last year he was 2.84 ERA 80K's 26BB
 
35Tree
      ID: 40328723
      Mon, Apr 15, 2013, 22:54 		you're talking about a league where Zack Greinke, Yovani Gallardo, and CC Sabathia weren't kept.
 
36Boldwin
      ID: 423541517
      Mon, Apr 15, 2013, 23:26 		Granted. That really is a fair point. We'll see if the new Maholm is for real. Half a year isn't smoke and mirrors, and he's better than those guys so far this year.

It would really be a bummer if I have my best pitching staff ever, which appears to be true, and my Trout infested batting lineup lets me down instead.
 
37Boldwin
      ID: 423541517
      Mon, Apr 15, 2013, 23:29 		Streaming is haaaard, Bedard slightly worse second time out.
 
38Tree
      ID: 40328723
      Mon, Apr 15, 2013, 23:38 		Half a year isn't smoke and mirrors, and he's better than those guys so far this year.

yes. he's better than most pitchers so far this year.

two weeks into the season.

as for half a year not being smoke and mirrors, there have been countless players who had fantastic half-seasons...and then sucked...or even players with a fantastic year - who could never replicate it again.

half a year? that's VERY much smoke and mirrors, especially for a pitcher in his 30s. while not always the case, it usually is.
 
39Tree
      ID: 40328723
      Mon, Apr 15, 2013, 23:51 		btw, how did Erik Bedard do tonight? remember when he had a great half season or two?
 
40Boldwin
      ID: 43318184
      Thu, Apr 18, 2013, 14:28 		He had a good preseason If I'm not mistaken, and a good first start. It's only streaming.
---

Why the Minnesota Vikings wear horned helmets.


Der Ring des Nibelungen
 
41Tree
      ID: 473532212
      Mon, Apr 22, 2013, 16:30 		Baldwin - make sure you check your email that you have associated with our league...thanks.
 
42Boldwin
      ID: 213232214
      Mon, Apr 22, 2013, 21:05 		Responded.
 
43Boldwin
      ID: 10441122
      Wed, May 01, 2013, 23:41 		How does my call that Sag's [last?] pick of Buchholz was the value pick of the draft?

4wins
29IP
32K
1.21ERA
.98WHIP

His pitching staff is going great except for two guys dragging him down. Ian Kennedy and Josh Johnson. WTF is that? I'm guessing they were his two most expensive pitchers and who would expect them to struggle?
 
44Bean
      ID: 30336189
      Thu, May 02, 2013, 01:27 		I like my pick of Mark Reynolds in round 20:

.301 avg
8 HRs
1 SB
17 R
22 RBI
 
45Bean
      ID: 30336189
      Thu, May 02, 2013, 01:33 		Chris Carter at 21 dont look too bad either, but he could be better
 
46Boldwin
      ID: 10441122
      Thu, May 02, 2013, 02:12 		Yeah, but ya didn't call them shots.
 
47Boldwin
      ID: 364024
      Thu, May 02, 2013, 05:00 		The Trout I don't get in my stats.
 
48Bean
      Sustainer
      ID: 49934911
      Thu, May 02, 2013, 11:26 		<46> I called them shots by drafting them. Might be the prizes of those rounds by some estimation.

I also got no love from you pre-season as you recall.
 
49Boldwin
      ID: 4141214
      Thu, May 02, 2013, 15:01 		Yeah, but picking them with the last pick is one thing. Having the guts to predict the specific last pick who will be a world-beater at the beginning of the season is a whole nuther level.

A.J. Pierzynski hit by pitch in first at-bat against Chicago White Sox. - really cold
 
50Biliruben
      ID: 358252515
      Tue, May 07, 2013, 13:57 		Tree- drop taz. He's baldy's.
 
51Tree
      ID: 1844279
      Tue, May 07, 2013, 14:18 		already dropped.
 
52C1-NRB
      ID: 451120913
      Tue, May 07, 2013, 16:38 		Make sure you bench him too, says the voice of experience.
 
53Tree
      ID: 1844279
      Tue, May 07, 2013, 17:29 		i dropped him within minutes of picking him up, so that's not an issue.
 
54Boldwin
      ID: 13444718
      Tue, May 07, 2013, 19:49 		For the record, that is one of the least likely prospect keepers ever. More years in the big leagues than you'd ever expect in a prospect. I totally understand and expect people to make mistakes on this one. I'd do it to were I in your shoes.
 
55Biliruben
      ID: 358252515
      Tue, May 07, 2013, 20:11 		I checked the list, or I would have picked him up last night. I definitely have made mistakes like this in the past tho.
 
56Boldwin
      ID: 13444718
      Tue, May 07, 2013, 20:34 		Did...not...trust Hanrahan and Bailey. Tazawa was getting raves in the preseason from the Boston coaches as the best looking bullpen arm, thus the prospect keeper pick even tho I respected Uehara almost as much.
 
57Boldwin
      ID: 13444718
      Tue, May 07, 2013, 20:42 		Now if Marmol regains the gig as he eventually does somehow no one knows how, I get @ a year from Frieri and Tazawa combined, I just might not lose this season because of the shaky late closer selections. Betancourt is solid at least.
 
58Boldwin
      ID: 32434818
      Wed, May 08, 2013, 20:22 		Webster who I just loved going into the season, rocked for 8 ER his first 1.2 IP.

GO wisely as it turns out, did not bite and left him in the minors so far.

My first Tazawa save recedes into the future.
 
59Boldwin
      ID: 32434818
      Wed, May 08, 2013, 20:26 		BTW, a long overdue tip of the hat to WG! That is a real buzzsaw of a team so far!
 
60GO
      ID: 120252515
      Thu, May 09, 2013, 13:03 		I wanted to bring him up but didn't have anybody I wanted to drop at the moment.
 
61Nerveclinic
      ID: 52134819
      Sun, May 12, 2013, 07:51
I just don't understand how you can drop a player who was 25 25 last year and a top 50-70 draft pick when it's not even June but I am glad you did.

 
62Bean
      Sustainer
      ID: 49934911
      Sun, May 12, 2013, 12:03 		I have Upton in another league. I am very close to tossing him as well. If the rest of the Braves weren't crushing the ball, I might explain some away as "tough match ups".

When a guy quickly declines its a mystery, but you dont want to be left holding the bag, particularly if you are behind in games played. You are forced to play the guy for counting stats even though he may be killing you on calculated stats. (as a wise friend once told me about slumping base-stealers.....you cant steal first!).

I pity the fool who kept holding out hope for Lincecum or Halladay last year.

In any case, nice pick up if you got the room Nerve, but wouldnt fault anyone for dropping him either.
 
63Boldwin
      ID: 49471117
      Sun, May 12, 2013, 12:13 		Any other fantasy kryptonite we can send your way, Nerve? Liriano is still on the wire and had a good game yesterday.
 
64WG
      ID: 3811221423
      Sun, May 12, 2013, 12:27 		Re: 59. Thanks Baldwin. Hitting starting to slow down a bit but obviously happy with the makeup of the team going forward.

Anyone want Yasiel Puig and/or Tony Cingrani???
 
65Nerveclinic
      Leader
      ID: 05047110
      Sun, May 12, 2013, 16:49
Do you guys just talk or do you actually do any research before you pontificate? Did you even bother checking BABIP before you declare someones season over?

Upton is around 2.00, league average is closer to 3.00 That points to a rebound of at least 60-80 on BA. He getting unlucky.

His walk rate is actually higher this year then last.

Maybe he will just have a bad year, but to just let a brother go barely 6 weeks into the season when he was 25 and 25 last year. It's called a bench for a reason.

 
66Nerveclinic
      Leader
      ID: 05047110
      Sun, May 12, 2013, 16:55

But then I picked up Alex Rios off waivers last year after Baldwin dropped him. Now your talking about crypto-night?

he finished with 25 HR, 24 SB and a .304 avg and you dropped him Baldwin. was hat cryptonight.

Almost as bad as me dropping Dickey but he wasn't expected to win the cy young.

 
67Tree
      ID: 32459107
      Sun, May 12, 2013, 17:10 		I just don't understand how you can drop a player who was 25 25 last year...

for the same reason Adam Dunn and Danny Espinosa are on our waiver wire - Dunn off a 40 homer season, Espinosa fresh off just missing a 20-20 season.

their batting averages are BRUTAL. Upton hasn't hit anywhere near .250 for six seasons now.

i'm rather surprised a guy who hit .290 with 40 stolen bases was dropped in favor of Upton.

i'm not saying it's not worth a pick up and not something i didn't consider. but i don't know i would have dropped Ben Revere for him.

I pity the fool who kept holding out hope for Lincecum...

that was me. i really hoped and hoped. and then i ended up keeping RA Dickey instead of him this season - on hindsight, i should have kept Matt Harvey over Dicket.

 
68C1-NRB
      ID: 202101423
      Sun, May 12, 2013, 17:14 		Yeah, I kept BJ Upton from last season, but he just isn't doing anything this year. This is a traditional AVG leage, not OBP, and I just didn't have the patience for him this year. There were hitters doing more, both in terms of AVG and HR that I preferred to have.

It's probably not the worst move I've ever made.
 
69Boldwin
      ID: 184541216
      Sun, May 12, 2013, 18:05 		Nerve

Rios was a sacrifice I had to make to gamble on closers in waiting. It killed me to drop him, even with the sub.200 AVE and the year before.

I did come up with 5 closers that year, but the short bench [Nerve being it's biggest proponent] meant I had to lose a great OF'er and a career year 2nd baseman. To tell the truth, I still don't know if it was worth it.
 
70nerveclinic
      Leader
      ID: 05047110
      Sun, May 12, 2013, 18:31
Upton hasn't hit anywhere near .250 for six seasons now.

Huh?

last year .246 That's extremely near .250

2011 .243 Near .250

2010 .237 furthest away of the 5 years

2009 .241

How can you say averages in the .240's are not close to .250?

Tripping dude.


Adam Dunn hit .204 That's a far cry from .246

Batting averages have come down the last 5 years overall. .240 is perfectly acceptable for 25/25

You must not be that high on Revere Tree I picked him up off waiver wire without using a waiver claim, so you had every opportunity to grab him.



 
71Boldwin
      ID: 50431620
      Thu, May 16, 2013, 21:03 		If memory serves...

Cobb has been roughed up by Boston twice, and he gave up 3 HR in the last two games so I sit him.

Reverse jinxed him apparently.
 
72Boldwin
      ID: 50431620
      Thu, May 16, 2013, 21:09 		Nope he's 5 HR in last 2 games. So he's twirling 3 hits 1R now. Sit or start...whatchagonnado?
 
73GO
      ID: 120252515
      Fri, May 17, 2013, 09:05 		I'll wager my 1st round pick BJ Upton doesn't get 25/25. He's done it once in his career. And he hasn't hit over .250 since 2008, so I wouldn't be expecting it now.

I bet he strikes out more than he has HR/SB/RBI combined. That's a true over/under for him.
 
74Tree
      ID: 564211423
      Fri, May 17, 2013, 10:12 		I bet he strikes out more than he has HR/SB/RBI combined. That's a true over/under for him

come on. that's not fair. he's NEVER had one season where his HR/SB/RBI was higher than his strike outs. lol

i mean heck, he's only had two seasons where his HIT total was higher than his strikeouts, and one of those he didn't even have 200 ABs.

 
75Nerveclinic
      Leader
      ID: 05047110
      Sun, May 19, 2013, 15:36
I'll wager my 1st round pick BJ Upton doesn't get 25/25.

Who said he was going 25/25?

And he hasn't hit over .250 since 2008, so I wouldn't be expecting it now.

Who said he is hitting over .250?

At least if you are going to yuck it up base it on reality.

he hit 28 HR's last year and had 31 SB even with a .240 avg that's a top 50 player.

He hit 23 HR the year before with 36 SB. His BABIP is .200

Anyone with half a brain knows thats worth a risk as a free agent pick up. If they don't they are either not very good at fantasy or a liar.

It don't matter how many SO he has as long as he reverts to the mean on HR and SB.

But you boys sit in your little circle together and have a chuckle.






 
76Boldwin
      ID: 2446204
      Mon, May 20, 2013, 05:10 		I'm not beating you up over Upton, but you should listen to the Baseball Tonight podcast for Friday. In depth look at Upton's swing and his numbers.

When I brought up the term fantasy kryptonite, the term implicitly admits the player is an irresistible pickup. Honestly Liriano is calling to me bigtime and I should know better, but the numbers...look at the numbers!
 
77GO
      ID: 120252515
      Mon, May 20, 2013, 10:14 		"Who said he was going 25/25?" you wrote .240 is perfectly acceptable for 25/25... did you mean in the past? cause he won't be doing it this year obviously.
 
78Nerveclinic
      ID: 52134819
      Tue, May 21, 2013, 09:21 		Obviously he won't be doing it this year but if his babip reverts to norm he could achieve close to that on a prorated basis.

Key word being could. It's just a shot in the dark based on past performance and un sustainably low babip. 6 more weeks of this and even I will drop him.

Baldwin I have downloaded but not listened. I will give a a listen tonight.
 
79GO
      ID: 120252515
      Tue, May 21, 2013, 09:30 		He's a lottery ticket for sure. Not a bad gamble. You figure if he gets back to his career .250 that probably means he hits .280 the rest of the way and that would be great.
 
80C1-NRB
      ID: 384312112
      Tue, May 21, 2013, 13:31 		6 more weeks of this and even I will drop him.

Sounds like a plan.
 
81Boldwin
      ID: 164192113
      Tue, May 21, 2013, 19:33 		A pickup like BJ is a decision that would be different for every team. Whether you would be playing him every day, whether you could afford the AVE hit, how bad you needed steals. I feel free to do some ribbing about it without insisting it's a wrong decision. Honestly if someone picks up Liriano I'd do the same thing...if I wasn't the one who couldn't resist, that is.

Can you ever guarantee someone who has demonstrated a skill will never do it again?
 
82GO
      ID: 120252515
      Thu, May 23, 2013, 10:26 		So who's gonna win this thing? WG off to a good start.

Verlander and Harvey stunk up the joint last night. And my hitters got 1 hit combined. Great night.
 
83Boldwin
      ID: 384162217
      Thu, May 23, 2013, 11:17 		The way I look at it, every one of us could shake up the standings. I look at people's lineups and I could easily tack on three HR to each batter in ten days, or see them stall for a cold streak. I went from a sub-3 ERA to @3.40 in one day a couple days ago and I'm already most of the way back down to 3.00.

Seems pretty fluid to me still.

That said, WG's team seems disturbingly solid.
 
84Boldwin
      ID: 31427247
      Fri, May 24, 2013, 08:44 		"Extree Extree, Readallaboudit!"

Mutant superhero slays sophmore jinx.

Last 14 days...14R 5HR 13RBI 5SB .391
 
85VampireWeekend
      ID: 314502421
      Fri, May 24, 2013, 22:50 		So I can drop Arcia but he would still be mine as a prospect since below the threshold?
 
86Boldwin
      ID: 504442421
      Sat, May 25, 2013, 00:07 		Yup, if he's still below the limits...
 
87GO
      ID: 300542419
      Thu, Jun 06, 2013, 22:36 		Looks like I got the top 2 picks in the MLB Draft as my prospects, so thats good. Except for they are on bad teams... but at least the pitcher didn't go to Colorado or the hitter to Seattle or some other crappy destination. So pleased with the circumstances I guess.
 
88Boldwin
      ID: 32532618
      Thu, Jun 06, 2013, 22:54 		Did you ever manage to get the prospect IP limit reduced on relief pitchers, GO? Or was it Bean? I don't believe so.

If not I believe Nerve needs to drop Tazawa.
 
89Tree
      ID: 651779
      Fri, Jun 07, 2013, 10:21 		i went ahead and dropped Tazawa for him.

he's already accumulated a few stats for Nerve's team, so we'll have to track that and apply them at the end of the season.
 
90nerveclinic
      Leader
      ID: 05047110
      Fri, Jun 07, 2013, 16:29 		Yeah sorry I didn't even look as I thought he has been around a while.

He accumulated 1 K and 2 IP of 0.00 era 1.00 whip, I think the last two would be statistically negligible over the course of a season.
 
91Tree
      ID: 651779
      Fri, Jun 07, 2013, 16:45 		2 IP of 0.00 era 1.00 whip, I think the last two would be statistically negligible over the course of a season.

one might think. but in this league, everything matters. right now in this league we have a couple people tied in WHIP, having to go out to the 4th decimal place to break the tie.

last year, GO, NC and bili all finished up with a 1.22 WHIP, so it had to go to percentages. GO ended up 5th in WHIP, NC in 6th, and Bili 7th.

If GO and bili would have been reversed, GO and Baldwin would have finished tied for first place overall.

 
92GO
      ID: 300542419
      Sat, Jun 08, 2013, 00:30 		That was a left wing conspiracy to keep Boldwin out. We made it look so close that it would seem plausable.
 
93biliruben
      ID: 21841115
      Sat, Jun 08, 2013, 02:03 		You joke, but it really actually truly absolutely was. I conspired. And I'm not afraid to do it again. For beer.
 
94Boldwin
      ID: 3955585
      Sat, Jun 08, 2013, 07:06 		I knew it!
 
97Nerveclinic
      ID: 52134819
      Thu, Jun 13, 2013, 15:09

Trade offer

Outfielder

Last year 25 / 25

Amazing genes, his brother is a prodigy.

Will trade for pennies on the dollar

Takers?

 
98Boldwin
      ID: 05581410
      Fri, Jun 14, 2013, 12:04 		Tell me we aren't so 1984 that we now censor the baseball league thread.
 
99C1-NRB
      ID: 384312112
      Tue, Jun 18, 2013, 09:41 		Trade offer
Outfielder
Last year 25 / 25
Amazing genes, his brother is a prodigy.
Will trade for pennies on the dollar
Takers?

Didn't quite make the full six weeks, huh?
 
100Nerveclinic
      Leader
      ID: 05047110
      Thu, Jun 20, 2013, 02:31
Didn't quite make the full six weeks, huh?

 I still have him but the trains about to leave the station.

 
101Boldwin
      ID: 275302010
      Thu, Jun 20, 2013, 11:30 		Finally something to slow the WG juggernaut.
Everth Cabrera out a month, half WG's SB production so very very unlikely he can top me in SB at least. Wilhelmson hitting the skids.

Keeping an eye on Josh Hamilton hopin' he stays struggling all year too.


Jean Segura, Puig, Rendon doing awfully well. Even Lind...grrr. Beating us to Edward Mujica, Latos playing alot better than he did for me last year. Six starters with a whip below 1.20, that is a whole lotta winning streak.

----

I have a lotta key players on WA, LAA and KC. Three teams struggling but who I expect to pick things up, they can hardly do worse.
 
102GO
      ID: 525101712
      Sun, Jun 23, 2013, 22:49 		Damn, thats the best hitting day I can remember. 4 different guys with a HR + 4 RBI's.... 5 HR, 18 RBI and .572 AVG. total.
 
103Boldwin
      ID: 55626711
      Sun, Jul 07, 2013, 12:27 		Having so much fun on tumblr I almost didn't get Strasburg plugged in. Soooo much creative freedom after so much oppression here.
 
104Tree
      ID: 8651715
      Wed, Jul 17, 2013, 20:53 		i am definitely looking like i'll be a seller as we head towards the trading deadline. not quite sure what i'm looking for, but revamping my team is definitely part of the plan.
 
105C1-NRB
      ID: 536282021
      Sat, Jul 20, 2013, 22:29 		I, too, am selling.

Almost all offers will be considered. Only three players are "off the table:" Votto, Weaver, and Kimbrel.

Everyone else is available, but creativity is required in any offers for David Frickin' Freese.
 
106biliruben
      ID: 41431323
      Sun, Jul 21, 2013, 00:25 		Selling. Better stuff than those losers above.
 
107nerveclinic
      Leader
      ID: 05047110
      Sun, Jul 21, 2013, 12:22
This is the first time I have been within 10.5 all season.

I guess that makes me a buyer.

I seem to be short on saves.

 
108nerveclinic
      Leader
      ID: 05047110
      Mon, Jul 22, 2013, 01:50
I had a good day yesterday.

Now within 7 points.

 
109WG
      ID: 3811221423
      Mon, Jul 22, 2013, 10:53 		Should those traded picks have been swapped?
 
110Tree
      ID: 395323014
      Mon, Jul 22, 2013, 10:54 		i was about to post the same thing....i think the traded draft picks are backwards?
 
111WG
      ID: 3811221423
      Mon, Jul 22, 2013, 11:55 		Milone and a 5 for 2 closers and a 2? Is that correct?
 
112nerveclinic
      Leader
      ID: 05047110
      Mon, Jul 22, 2013, 12:33
The trade is basically the two closers for a second round draft pick, i get his 5th. So if they are backward, that's my mistake so it should be recorded that Bili gets my second round.

Milone and Hernandez are not part of the trade they are just the two players I let go to keep roster at correct number.

 
113nerveclinic
      Leader
      ID: 05047110
      Mon, Jul 22, 2013, 12:34
Sorry guess I wasn't thinking when I checked the draft picks.

 
114Tree
      ID: 176152212
      Mon, Jul 22, 2013, 13:15 		no worries - y'all should probably just cancel and correct - if we go to a live draft or something next season that could screw it up.

also, why not just drop those players in the trade, unless Bili actually wants them?
 
115nerveclinic
      Leader
      ID: 05047110
      Mon, Jul 22, 2013, 13:22
if we go to a live draft or something next season that could screw it up.

Is that not something the commish can just change next year?

Anyway surely we aren't going to live draft. We've done slow draft since the beginning and no one has seriously suggested we change.

In terms of the "dropping" instead of "trading" I guess I don't understand the difference. It's just the easiest way to do it, in fact I don't know of any other way, but it doesn't seem like it would matter.

 
116Biliruben
      ID: 358252515
      Mon, Jul 22, 2013, 13:37 		No.
 
117GO
      ID: 9649157
      Mon, Jul 22, 2013, 13:53 		It should be fixed for record keeping purposes. Just veto and accept it updated. It won't hold it up any if accepted today.
 
118C1-NRB
      ID: 384312112
      Mon, Jul 22, 2013, 14:40 		The recently accepted trade between Dust Storm Troopers and WG includes the rights to prospects Anthony Rendon and Michael Wacha shifting over to me.
 
119Bean
      Sustainer
      ID: 49934911
      Mon, Jul 22, 2013, 15:55 		Trade Deadline: Closest Sunday to August 31st

Consider me a seller
 
120nerveclinic
      Leader
      ID: 05047110
      Mon, Jul 22, 2013, 16:05

Wow that's a serious trade Guys.

More impressive then 2 hack closers.

Please do not veto the trade as I am headed to sleep and would lose a days saves.

We have records here in this thread of the correct draft picks. I am sure Bili won't forget.
 
121nerveclinic
      Leader
      ID: 05047110
      Mon, Jul 22, 2013, 16:08
"the rights to prospects Anthony Rendon and Michael Wacha shifting over to me"

You have to declare which two prospects you are dropping, you can only have 5 at a time.

 
122C1-NRB
      ID: 384312112
      Mon, Jul 22, 2013, 16:19 		I forgot about that.

Relinquishing the rights to:
Aaron Hicks, OF, MIN
David Dahl, OF, COL
 
123Wg
      ID: 552431321
      Mon, Jul 22, 2013, 16:26 		If we knew that I would have asked for them back in the deal... Is that still an option?
 
124Biliruben
      ID: 358252515
      Mon, Jul 22, 2013, 17:07 		Fine with me.
 
125Tree
      ID: 176152212
      Mon, Jul 22, 2013, 18:47 		You have to declare which two prospects you are dropping, you can only have 5 at a time.

this was changed prior to this season, per voting and the results tallied in post 334 in this thread...

you can now have up to 10 keepers, as long as you pare it down to 3 by the draft.

this vote went through prior to this season - before keepers were named - so i do believe this rule actually takes effect for this season, no?
 
126Tree
      ID: 176152212
      Mon, Jul 22, 2013, 18:48 		not keepers, rather prospects.
 
127WG
      ID: 3811221423
      Mon, Jul 22, 2013, 20:30 		can we get a final verdict? c1 has graciously allowed me to take hicks and dahl in the deal...
 
128C1-NRB
      ID: 536282021
      Mon, Jul 22, 2013, 21:30 		Confirmed- It's cool with me to throw them in.
 
129Tree
      ID: 26626239
      Tue, Jul 23, 2013, 10:28 		i don't see a problem with amending the deal at all.

that being said, we really do need Bili and NC to go back in and fix their deal.

it's so much easier if the correct deal is listed on the league yahoo page, instead of having to search in a thread.
 
130GO
      ID: 56631510
      Tue, Jul 23, 2013, 10:51 		Yes you can have as many prospects as you want provided you cut down next spring at draft time.
 
131GO
      ID: 56631510
      Tue, Jul 23, 2013, 10:52 		1st post in this thread is our league constitution FYI
 
132Tree
      ID: 26626239
      Tue, Jul 23, 2013, 17:24 		NC and Bili - could you please go back and fix your trade so it is correct?
 
133Biliruben
      ID: 358252515
      Tue, Jul 23, 2013, 18:00 		Nerve wants his closers now. Can we do it by not delaying the trade?
 
134C1-NRB
      ID: 384312112
      Tue, Jul 23, 2013, 18:09 		What if you allow this trade to go through and then do another trade wherein you trade draft picks only? Would that do it?
 
135Tree
      ID: 26626239
      Tue, Jul 23, 2013, 18:18 		C1's idea might work.

otherwise, every day we delay, delays the trade.
 
136biliruben
      ID: 21841115
      Wed, Jul 24, 2013, 00:06 		Submitted, though I think I need to cancel. Doesn't he now get my second (better) for his second (worse)? I need to trade him both my fifths for both his seconds, right?

I'm a bit drunk and confused.
 
137biliruben
      ID: 21841115
      Wed, Jul 24, 2013, 00:07 		I think I need to reserve the Dubai Hookah Hideaway up the street for a session tomorrow night.
 
138Tree
      ID: 395323014
      Wed, Jul 24, 2013, 10:36 		Submitted, though I think I need to cancel. Doesn't he now get my second (better) for his second (worse)? I need to trade him both my fifths for both his seconds, right?

the initial deal (should have been) Bili's fifth for Nerve's second.

once both the deals go through, y'all sort through the mess and make the appropriate trade back(s) with each other.
 
139GO
      ID: 56631510
      Wed, Jul 24, 2013, 14:48 		Tree - approve the trades so we don't have to keep waiting on them to process and straighten out.
 
140Tree
      ID: 56282413
      Wed, Jul 24, 2013, 15:58 		i don't believe i can.

this league has remained a "league votes" league, instead of a "commissioner approval" league, which means there's not much i can do to push through, or cancel, a trade.
 
141GO
      ID: 56631510
      Wed, Jul 24, 2013, 16:02 		We have league votes in Dirty Dozen i think but i can still push through stuff when i go into the trade.

We need to change that setting if not and shorten up the days.
 
142Tree
      ID: 56282413
      Wed, Jul 24, 2013, 16:38 		We have league votes in Dirty Dozen...

we don't. we have commissioner review in Dirty Dozen. that's why you can push it through.

We need to change that setting if not and shorten up the days.

we have it at 2 days. (DD is 1 day)

i've tried before to get either of those changed, and they were both met with resistance. i stopped trying a long time ago.
 
143Wg
      ID: 552431321
      Wed, Jul 24, 2013, 18:04 		Yahoo's 2 days are the 2 after its accepted, then it goes through, but you can't get them into the lineup til the day after. So 2 days really equals 4.
 
144GO
      ID: 13629419
      Wed, Jul 24, 2013, 18:07 		Which is why we went to 1 in DD. Its still 2 for review and 3 to get in lineup.
 
145Tree
      ID: 56282413
      Wed, Jul 24, 2013, 18:48 		hey, i'm all for it. but i'm not going to be the one going to bat for it.

usually i'll make a suggestion, it'll get shot down. the next season, or perhaps the one after, someone else makes the same suggestion, and it gets approved.

i'd be in favor if it went to a vote.
 
146 WG
      ID: 3811221423
      Thu, Jul 25, 2013, 15:11 		When the Commish gets a chance, prospects from the WG-C1 trade should be fixed on the Yahoo page: Wacha, Rendon - Dahl, Hicks. Thanks.

Anyone want a SP? I've still got too many. Greinke, Lee, Minor, Cingrani all moveable. Could use some pop.
 
147GO
      ID: 13629419
      Thu, Jul 25, 2013, 20:43 		A smart buyer would be offering me packages for Verlander right now knowing I am annoyed.
 
148WG
      ID: 3811221423
      Mon, Aug 05, 2013, 23:51 		So, anyone want Everth Cabrera for cheap???
 
149Boldwin
      ID: 427211210
      Mon, Aug 12, 2013, 14:49 		While I haven't managed perfectly this week it's not as bad as it looks. I don't want to drop Cain and I get a player off DL Thursday, so I am gonna deal with a three day gap in the lineup. Maybe there's a pitcher I could have dropped but I've been too busy to make that call and no one leaps to my mind anyway who needs dropping. An emotional rollercoaster lately.
 
150Tree
      ID: 267311212
      Mon, Aug 12, 2013, 14:57 		um. you have three guys on your roster that are on the MLB DL, but not your DL. you could just swap one of them for the guy coming off the DL...
 
151nerveclinic
      Leader
      ID: 05047110
      Mon, Aug 12, 2013, 16:59
Baldy: "An emotional rollercoaster lately."

Emotional roller coaster?

Dude you are 39 points out of first place. Accept your fate and your emotions will balance.

 
152Tree
      ID: 267311212
      Mon, Aug 12, 2013, 18:02 		lol. post of the year.
 
153nerveclinic
      Leader
      ID: 05047110
      Fri, Aug 30, 2013, 07:36
And I guess my grabbing George Springer, who is not expected to be called up this year, or for only a couple of games, is my concession that WG has this thing won.

 
154GO
      ID: 56631510
      Tue, Sep 17, 2013, 16:20 		Who's gonna get 2nd?!
 
155nerveclinic
      ID: 508301914
      Thu, Sep 19, 2013, 15:32
Who's gonna get 2nd?!

Who cares?

Only thing that matters is first.

If I cared about 2nd I wouldn't pick up Springer.

 
156Nerveclinic
      ID: 52134819
      Fri, Sep 20, 2013, 03:08
Or were you subtly saying it's all over? Geez I thought that a month ago.

Amit is smoking us.



 
157Nerveclinic
      ID: 52134819
      Fri, Sep 20, 2013, 03:15
One small thing to look forward to for next year. Gerriot Cole will be under 125 ip after his last start essentially giving me an 8th keeper. Difficult decision will be which 2 prospects to drop.

 
158Boldwin
      ID: 22840223
      Sun, Sep 22, 2013, 05:15 		It's been a strange year for me when I have:

.332 11 HR Chris Johnson

.315 12 HR Yadier Molina

.301 11 HR Howie Kendrick

.290 14 HR Billy Butler

.281 13 HR Martín Prado

and then I have anchors dragging me down...

.239 7 HR Granderson
.252 6 HR Rollins

Cargo with only 391 plate appearances

You have to step back from that and wonder how I could survive that to be battling for third.
 
159nerveclinic
      ID: 8832812
      Sat, Sep 28, 2013, 13:07
Baldwin and then I have anchors dragging me down...
.239 7 HR Granderson
.252 6 HR Rollins

I play in 3 rotoguru leagues.

I play in 10 ESPN public leagues

I play in 3 yahoo public leagues.

I did not draft Granderson or Rollins in even one of those leagues.

Rollins is not dragging you down, the fact you chose to put him anywhere near your team is dragging you down.

 
160nerveclinic
      ID: 8832812
      Sun, Sep 29, 2013, 11:06
Do post season AB count toward a prospects losing prospect eligibility?

For example if a player finishes he regular season with 122 AB, then during the wild card game he bats 5 times, is he now over the limit? or regular playoffs or world series etc.

I think not, but I am not sure if the issue has ever exactly come up.

 
161Tree
      ID: 438482411
      Sun, Sep 29, 2013, 16:51 		Do post season AB count toward a prospects losing prospect eligibility?


out of curiosity, why do you think they even would?

if they don't count towards a player's regular season stats in MLB, why would they count here?

(that being said, if there's a tie in the standings, and an additional game is needed to break that tie, i am pretty sure those stats count toward the regular season)

 
162GO
      ID: 50752922
      Sun, Sep 29, 2013, 21:01 		Yahoo Sports only counts MLB regular-season games for scoring purposes that occur during the normal regular-season schedule to end on Sept. 29, 2013.
Therefore, if a one-game playoff is needed to determine a division or wild card winner, scoring from this game will not be applied to Fantasy leagues.
In addition, the Fantasy season will not be extended for rainouts and/or makeup games that take place after the regular season is scheduled to end.

ESPN does NOT count any bonus tiebreaker play-in games FYI... they consider it a playoff game essentially and not game 163.
 
163biliruben
      ID: 41431323
      Sun, Sep 29, 2013, 23:55 		Congratulations, Amit!!!

Total domination.
 
164Nerveclinic
      ID: 52134819
      Mon, Sep 30, 2013, 00:09
Tree: "out of curiosity why do you think they would".

I don't.

 
165Nerveclinic
      ID: 52134819
      Mon, Sep 30, 2013, 00:13
This seasons outcome was never really in doubt. Amit was looking down on us almost from the start. Really amazing season. Congratulations.

 
166Nerveclinic
      ID: 52134819
      Mon, Sep 30, 2013, 01:07
By far the biggest mistake I made this year was trading Amit Scherzer and Latos for a 5th round pick while various pundits from the peanut gallery assured all of us that draft picks were more valuable then a player who would have been drafted in an early round.

I wonder if that mind set will change after witnessing Amit use that move as at least a significant step toward his epic season?

In retrospect, that trade certainly was a miscalculation by me.

 
167C1-NRB
      ID: 3188280
      Mon, Sep 30, 2013, 01:29 		Public congratulations, Amit.

I went back through the league's history and that was the most dominating performance ever. By the numbers, you earned 94% of the first place points (132 of 140) winning 6 of 10 categories.

Great season.
 
168GO
      ID: 56631510
      Mon, Sep 30, 2013, 08:41 		Congrats WG.

Congrats to me for knocking Boldwin out of the bronze medal spot.
 
169C1-NRB
      ID: 384312112
      Mon, Sep 30, 2013, 10:08 		So I based my numbers on last night's standings, which were updated this morning.

WG actually finished with 129.5 of 140 (92.5%) which is still tops all-time. The next closest was in 2006 when the winner, 1625 K St All-Stars, finished with 127.5 (91%) and won 5 categories.

Congratulations, again.
 
170WG
      ID: 3811221423
      Mon, Sep 30, 2013, 12:04 		Thanks everyone. Was a pleasure to be a part of such an active and competitive league. Got lucky with a lot of my draft picks like Puig and Segura and was fortunate to be able to build around Miggy. The trade with NC obviously played a big part as well and funny enough I might not have made it if I had (what I considered) 2 decent SP keeper options already on my team.

Looking forward to trying to defend the title next year!
 
171Bean
      Sustainer
      ID: 49934911
      Sun, Oct 13, 2013, 00:47 		Sorry WG, belated grats, been somewhat pre-occupied lately.

Wanted to try to gather the pertinent trasactions from this year that aren't documented in Yahoo before we all forget.

Re: 112
Re: 118/122/123

Any others?
 
172PuNk42AE
      Donor
      ID: 036635522
      Mon, Jan 27, 2014, 10:57 		Vote before the season starts with this new change?

Commissioners have the option of adding "NA" roster spots, and these will function similarly to the DL. So you'll be able to stash minor leaguers and/or suspended players (or anyone on the bereavement list) without burning a bench spot.

In a nutshell, what I'm saying is this: We're offering you a stellar fantasy baseball experience in 2014, and it begins next week.

Have it be 5 spots for our Prospects? Have it be 1 or 2 so you can pick who might be close?
 
173GO
      ID: 01020815
      Mon, Jan 27, 2014, 15:07 		I would think it would be great to use as our 5 prospect slots. Especially since we allow callups etc it would take adding a player from the wrong team out of the equation.
 
174C1-NRB
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      Mon, Jan 27, 2014, 16:35 		It might work for prospects. Not all prospects are in the Yahoo! database, though.
 
175GO
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      Mon, Jan 27, 2014, 16:44 		They will be according to Yahoo.
 
176Tree
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      Mon, Jan 27, 2014, 19:10 		it will also make trading prospects easier, and tracking them as well.

and per Yahoo, they are adding hundreds of prospects.
 
177C1-NRB
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      Tue, Jan 28, 2014, 13:12 		What about the rule that went into effect last year that states we can acquire more than 5 prospects through trade as long as we only declare 3 keepers at the start of the next season?

Don't get me wrong- I think it's a good idea to have these reserved spots, but we need clear rules about how they are used. For example, suppose a team drops a prospect from an NA spot to make room for a player on paternity leave (or whatever); they still retain his rights.
 
178PuNk42AE
      Donor
      ID: 036635522
      Tue, Jan 28, 2014, 15:16 		That's where I think we would have to vote if we used them that only our prospects can be on the NA.
 
179GO
      ID: 01020815
      Tue, Jan 28, 2014, 15:45 		And I think that's the simplest way to use and track those slots.
 
180nerveclinic
      ID: 54039114
      Wed, Jan 29, 2014, 03:16 		Sorry the original post was not clearly written.

Are you saying that Yahoo offers the option of NA spots?

So you want 5 for our minor leaguers?

Does Yahoo allow you to move a player back and forth between NA and playing over and over?

What happens when a player is not in database? Does that mean you have 4 NA slots and the 5th sits empty and we just make note of the 5th player like before on rotoguru?

Do they allow an empty slot?

There are a number of issues I would need to understand before voting.

On the whole it doesn't change minor league rules though, is that correct?

 
181Tree
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      Wed, Jan 29, 2014, 18:07 		it doesn't change any rules. it just makes keeping track of guys easier. let's not make this more difficult than it has to be.
 
182biliruben
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      Thu, Jan 30, 2014, 04:01
when a minor league player is called up, does he still qualify to sit in an NA slot?
 
183nerveclinic
      ID: 54039114
      Thu, Jan 30, 2014, 05:11
"let's not make this more difficult than it has to be."

What will make it "not difficult" is if someone answers the questions in my post.

 
184Tree
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      Thu, Jan 30, 2014, 08:29 		when a minor league player is called up, does he still qualify to sit in an NA slot?

this remains to be seen, and a concern. my gut feeling is that it will be similar to the DL spot, which means that yes he qualifies, but you can't make roster moves, which is obviously a large obstacle.

that being said, numerous people are commenting to Yahoo about this, so let's hope they hear this, and make a tweak that an NA player does not have an adverse effect on roster moves.
 
185Mith
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      Thu, Jan 30, 2014, 08:50 		Fellas

The NA slot was there last year. They only applied it to guys who were in their database at the start of the season who were sent down to the minors, suspended or went on bereavement leave. When a guy returned or was called back up, he would lose his NA status.

It doesn't look like it will give this league a place to stash protected prospects who are in the majors but haven't passed your thresholds.
 
186Bean
      ID: 5292191
      Thu, Jan 30, 2014, 10:49 		Sorry, late to the party. Going to Vegas for the Superbowl, back on Wednesday. Will get things rolling then.

If this new feature doesnt do it for us, I thought about this a bit last year.

If you put a player in the roster and mark him as a keeper, he will retain that flag even after you drop him. I could earmark all prospects during pre-season using that game mechanic. So, at least you will think twice before picking him up.
 
187Bean
      ID: 5292191
      Thu, Jan 30, 2014, 16:46 		If I understand the MLB schedule for this year, the season starts on 22 MAR in Sydney Austrailia this year. LAD vs ARZ 2 games, they count.

The more traditional opening day is 30 MAR SD vs LAD. Opener for most teams is 31 MAR.

Ideally we will have the draft done by 22 MAR.
 
188nerveclinic
      ID: 8832812
      Thu, Jan 30, 2014, 20:22
"Going to Vegas for the Superbowl," Brah, the super bowl is in Jersey...

"Ideally we will have the draft done by 22 MAR."

Season starts Mar 22nd. Then the draft will be complete before then. Always has, but good heads up...

 
189PuNk42AE
      Donor
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      Wed, Feb 05, 2014, 23:22 		Just a heads up, like Nerve said March 22nd is Opening day. I'll be on Vacation from March 7th-17th
 
190nerveclinic
      ID: 54039114
      Thu, Feb 06, 2014, 01:19
So is anyone going to get this thing cranked up?

Is Baldwin and Tree back as commish?

 
191Tree
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      Thu, Feb 06, 2014, 19:39 		invites have been sent out to all managers who played last season.

thanks for the push/reminder NC. :)
 
192Tree
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      Thu, Feb 06, 2014, 19:40 		obviously, some things, such as the keeper deadline, will change. i haven't done anything other than send out the invites...
 
193Tree
      ID: 438482411
      Thu, Feb 06, 2014, 19:44 		also - if for some reason we don't finish before the two-game series in Australia on March 22 and 23, Yahoo allows us to retroactively count those games.

considering Punk's vacation smack dab in the middle of what i would think is prime drafting time, i wouldn't be opposed to allowing retroactive scoring of those games, considering that the rest of the teams don't begin playing until March 30.
 
194 Bean
      ID: 5292191
      Thu, Feb 06, 2014, 21:58 		Tree,

Thanks for setting up the Yahoo League. I sent you the built in reminder when it first became available (last week?). Maybe it was broke.

Anyway, I thought I was asked to commish this year, I've already begun work on colecting rosters and reviewing prospect eligibility. Did I misunderstand my responsibility?

Whoever the one belly button is gonna be, we do need a role call, the invites to the yahoo league performs that function well. I figured we should know how many managers we need to replace by this Sunday, so we could get started with the arduous task of replacing them or making an alternative plan.

Thoughts?
 
195Boldwin
      ID: 5315873
      Fri, Feb 07, 2014, 04:58 		Yo
 
196Boldwin
      ID: 5315873
      Fri, Feb 07, 2014, 05:00 		Why are we talking about season 2014 in the 2013 thread?
 
197Boldwin
      ID: 5315873
      Fri, Feb 07, 2014, 05:07 		Also I think it only fair that Tree hand over the commish keys of the yahoo keeper league to the guy/s we promised it to.
 
198Bean
      ID: 5292191
      Fri, Feb 07, 2014, 13:13 		I created a file in the Yahoo Group you all joined last season. Its got your roster and prospects in it. I've noted which prospects are prospect eligible for 2014. Please let me know if I have anything wrong.


https://au.groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/POLI-BB/conversations/messages

hopefully this link works for you...sags never signed up
 
199Tree
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      Fri, Feb 07, 2014, 15:42 		i don't even remember Bean offering, but if you want it, it's all yours pal. lol

i'll make you co-commish so we can start the transition.
 
200Bean
      ID: 5292191
      Sat, Feb 08, 2014, 12:16 		<199> Thanks Tree

<197> Thought I recalled someone else wanted to help with the draft, just cant find it in the thread. No problem for me to set it up and run it though.