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| Posted by: Boldwin
- [283122316] Tue, Apr 23, 2013, 17:22
When a teacher raised his voice demanding Jared Marcum remove his National Rifle Association T-shirt fellow students in his West Virginia school cafeteria started cheering 'Jared Jared Jared'.
A police officer arrested Jared after he was sent to the school office and again refused to remove the shirt.
When Jared returned to class Monday wearing the same shirt that got him into trouble, he was joined by about 100 other students across Logan County who wore shirts with a similar gun rights theme in a show of support for free speech.
I love Jared, the people of West Virgina, those kids and the 1&2 amendments.
How well I remember the 60's generation wearing T-shirts to school deliberately intended to insult the culture. And the resultant court cases. Back at ya. |
| | | 1 | Tree
ID: 47311239
Tue, Apr 23, 2013, 17:42
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i was waiting for this post.
of course, you view this is some sort of conservative nonsense, and the liberal school ps you like to pull, but it's important to note THE SCHOOL DID NOT ARREST THE KID, THE POLICE DID.
this is a significantly red state, and i don't think it's unreasonable that most policemen would support gun rights.
per the Police Chief, E.K. Harper, Marcum was arrested for "disrupting the school process."
"His conduct in school almost incited a riot," Harper said.
here's a bit more about Harper.
also, to act like this has ANYTHING to do with first and second amendment rights is to be woefully ignorant. he didn't bring a gun to school, he wore a t-shirt. that tosses the second amendment right out.
secondly, when it comes to the first amendment rights of students, it's a bit more murky, but generally speaking, it's not much in favor of students - as long as an administrator feels that a student expressing his or rights disrupts the learning environment, they can take necessary action.
this happened to me THREE times in high school.
here are the three main standards as the First Amendment applies to High School students.
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| | | 2 | Tree
ID: 47311239
Tue, Apr 23, 2013, 17:45
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* bs, not ps
* his or her rights
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| | | 3 | Boldwin
ID: 25332317
Tue, Apr 23, 2013, 18:20
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If my memory serves me the Supreme Court actually heard a T-shirt free speech case brought by a fat slob who attended my High School, La Salle-Peru @1968. A case which he won.
A case which doesn't come right up for me when I google for some reason.
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| | | 4 | Tree
ID: 47311239
Tue, Apr 23, 2013, 18:32
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it depends on the case. it would have helped if you'd read the link from above.
as for the shirt, it depends on the shirt, and, as i mentioned above, the reaction of the administration.
Morse v. Frederick was a somewhat recent case.
bottom line, school kids don't have a lot of rights.
as soon as a school administrator felt the shirt was a violation of policy, and gave the kid the option to change or turn it inside out, and the kid refused, the kid was in the wrong.
if the t shirt had an image of Serrano's "Piss Christ" emblazoned in it, you would be arguing that the administration was 100 percent in the right and the kid should have been arrested.
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| | | 5 | Perm Dude
ID: 201027169
Tue, Apr 23, 2013, 18:36
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It isn't about the shirt. It is about the student's behavior.
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| | | 6 | Boldwin
ID: 25332317
Tue, Apr 23, 2013, 18:52
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Obviously it's not about disturbance because the teacher was disturbing the peace.
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| | | 7 | Tree
ID: 47311239
Tue, Apr 23, 2013, 18:57
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It isn't about the shirt. It is about the student's behavior.
it's about both. The shirt is what got caught the attention of the administration's eye. his reaction afterwards, according to the police, is what got him tossed in jail.
i was a smart ass in HS. i wore a "Van Halen Kicks Ass" t shirt and a "Beastie Boys say 'Get Off My D*ck'" t shirt.
i was asked to remove, cover, or turn inside out. i was smart enough to do so.
Obviously it's not about disturbance because the teacher was disturbing the peace.
which would explain completely why the student was arrested, and not the teacher. again, you're wrong here.
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| | | 8 | Boldwin
ID: 25332317
Tue, Apr 23, 2013, 19:43
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That school needs a 1000 T-shirt protest.
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| | | 9 | Tree
ID: 38322228
Tue, Apr 23, 2013, 19:49
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watching you flounder in your absolutely cluelessness here is pretty funny.
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| | | 10 | Boldwin
ID: 25332317
Tue, Apr 23, 2013, 22:55
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Crub
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| | | 11 | Tree
ID: 38322228
Wed, Apr 24, 2013, 00:59
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you using the term "crub" is positively hysterical, because i'm not sure i've ever known anyone on the 'net who it fit more approproiately than you..
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| | | 12 | Boldwin
ID: 25332317
Wed, Apr 24, 2013, 01:15
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So funny...#HackedAPHeadlines.
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