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Subject: Active Shooter Drills

  Posted by: Boldwin - [49572022] Tue, Jun 23, 2015, 10:32
Just to keep track of the simultaneous drills.

All you stat-heads, feel free to calculate the odds that there would be a drill coinciding with the event...always a drill running alongside the event.



I'm not sayin', I'm just sayin'.

Scheduled Active Shooter drill, Charleston June 15-19, 2015
 
1Khahan
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      Tue, Jun 23, 2015, 11:02 		Don't you think, for as long as this idea of training drills happening near disasters being a sign of a government conspiracy that they would stop scheduling things like this?

Also, what exactly is it supposed to mean? Yes, I'm playing dumb and asking you to spell it out in clear terms. What is the connection? What is the clear line to connect the dots from the drill, to the event to the end goal?

Spell it out? My money says you cannot spell it out directly and coherently.

But if you can, I promise you I will consider it with an open mind.
 
2Boldwin
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      Tue, Jun 23, 2015, 11:09
On 17th September 2010, HSEEP Homeland Security Exercise and Evaluation Program had a drill with FEMA at the Sandy Hook Fire Department, which is near to the Elementary School. On the day of the event, starting at 9.00 am, a FEMA exercise ‘Planning for the Needs of Children in Disasters’ took place in Connecticut not far from Sandy Hook.

To quote from a Department of Homeland Security brochure about the school terror-drills: ‘Each participating city is eligible for a one-time grant of 280,000 dollars for the acquisition of training equipment

“Sandy Hook has a recent history of federally staged Terror Drills. A mock school shooting drill was being conducted in Putman County only miles away on the very same day as the Sandy Hook events on December 14.”

[The shooting] said to have been three minutes around 9.45 on 14th December.

Neighbours of Nancy Lanza said that around 9:15am they saw police surrounding the house, taping off the neighborhood and telling everyone to evacuate. Yet, they supposedly did not learn the identity of the shooter until c. 11:30am.

Adam Lanza was a vegan because he ‘didn’t want to hurt animals’.

First we were told she [Nancy Lanza] was a teacher at the school, and Adam went to that school, then later it emerged: A former school board official in Newtown called into question earlier reports that Nancy Lanza had been connected to Sandy Hook Elementary School, possibly as part of the teaching staff. “No one has heard of her,” said Lillian Bittman, who served on the local school board until 2011. “Teachers don’t know her.”

At least one family had the experience of not even being allowed to see the body of their loved one. “They told me, ‘You can’t see (the body),’” Gilles Rousseau told Radio-Canada, the French-language CBC. “

On December 19 the Connecticut State Police assigned individual personnel to each of the 26 families who lost a loved one at Sandy Hook Elementary. “The families have requested no press interviews,” State Police assert on their behalf, “and we are asking that this request be honoured – a de facto gag order.

 
3Bean
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      Tue, Jun 23, 2015, 11:10 		"I'm not sayin', I'm just sayin'"

Perhaps you shouldn't talk so much. Just sayin
 
4Boldwin
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      Tue, Jun 23, 2015, 11:15 		Khahan

I'm asking anyone with the common sense to realize an impossibly improbable series of events to consult their own internal BS detector.

No I will not solve the entire thing for you.

No they don't need to stop scheduling these things simultaneously.

They are well experienced with hiding in plain sight.

They have the 'Witch Defense' going at maximum. The 'Witch Defense' states that the more unthinkable a crime is, the less likely you are to believe it to be true.
 
5Boldwin
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      Tue, Jun 23, 2015, 11:28 		The Norwegian newspaper Aftenposten reports today police sources have confirmed that hours before Anders Behring Breivik launched his deadly attack at a political summer camp on Utøya island on July 22, police had conducted a drill for a “practically identical scenario.”

“Sources within the top level management of the police in Oslo have confirmed to Aftenposten that the drill finished at 15:00 that same Friday,” the newspaper reports. “All of the officers from the anti-terror unit that later took part at the bombsite at the government buildings and went out to Utøya to apprehend Anders Behring Breivik had been training on the exact same scenario earlier the same day and in the days preceding,” writes Andreas Bakke Foss.

The bomb attributed to Breivik went off only 26 minutes after the anti-terror drill finished, according to officials.

Norwegian police characterize the “very similar” drill and its chronological proximity to the “practically identical scenario” as a coincidence.
 
6Bean
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      Tue, Jun 23, 2015, 11:30 		Most say that the real problem with all this crazy gun shooting is that its more about the crazy than it is about the gun. If I were you, I'd worry more about some one coming to your door with a straight jacket than someone coming to take your gun.
 
7Khahan
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      Tue, Jun 23, 2015, 12:03 		Ok, lets try it this way Boldwin - how come we only hear about these things after the fact? If what you are insinuating is true shouldn't somebody be able to predict, with pretty good accuracy when these events will happen? I mean its been 14 years +. If I remember correctly Twin Towers has similar claims made (again, after the fact) of military drills in the area. By now don't you guys have enough information to predict the next staged false flag event ahead of time?
 
8Boldwin
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      Tue, Jun 23, 2015, 12:03 		Diligent researchers will find what Jean-Marie Le Pen' and Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, who was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan Administration and associate editor of the Wall Street Journal had to say about the Charlie Hebdo event.

No drill, but it's interesting that one of the Charie Hebdo terrorists personally met with French president Nicolas Sarkozy back in 2009.

They might also be interested in Operation Gladio plan A & plan B.
 
9Boldwin
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      Tue, Jun 23, 2015, 12:06 		Khahan

I'm not so prescient that I can tell you the outcome of every Jade Helm event in advance for example.
 
10Boldwin
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      Tue, Jun 23, 2015, 12:20

Reporters slip-up so very reminiscent of the reporter reporting the collapse of Building7 before it happened.

Did you know you can shoot someone in the head from point blank range with a 5" long military rifle round without massive visible damage?

You Can't

 
11Boldwin
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      Tue, Jun 23, 2015, 12:35 		It's 'Interesting' that when Charleston refuses to 'Go Baltimore'...

Three different public figures explicitly N-bomb for the media, because racism is intense and everywhere of course.

Obama goes on TV and explicitly N-bombs.

Ward Churchill N-bombs Obama.

Don Lemon holds up placards with the N-bomb spelled out in full on CNN.

You can go decades without hearing or seeing that word these days [outside of black culture]...but when it's useful to the race hustlers...
 
12Boldwin
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      Tue, Jun 23, 2015, 15:58
Peter Power had previously worked at Scotland Yard, the Anti Terrorist Branch, and as a police superintendent in West Dorset, England. In 1993, Power was himself the subject of a criminal investigation which, in April 1993, led to his suspension and retirement from the police.

Superintendent Power was suspended following an internal police inquiry, which resulted in a file being submitted to the Director of Public Prosecution. Oddly, the details of the Power investigation have been kept classified...

The July Seventh Truth Campaign in Britain has revealed Power's troubled past and his links with previous terror incidents in Britain. But the details of the criminal investigation into Peter Power have been kept secret since 1993.
Interview:
Just hours after the London bombings, Power explained the incredible coincidences with the drill his company was conducting in a radio interview with Peter Allen on BBC 5:

Power: At half past nine this morning we were actually running an exercise for a company of over a thousand people in London based on simultaneous bombs going off
    precisely at the railway stations where it happened this morning
, so I still have the hairs on the back of my neck standing up right now.

Peter Allen: To get this quite straight, you were running an exercise to see how you would cope with this and it happened while you were running the exercise?

Power: Precisely, and it was about half past nine this morning, we planned this for a company and for obvious reasons I don't want to reveal their name but they're listening and they'll know it. And we had a room full of crisis managers, for the first time they'd met, and so within five minutes we made a pretty rapid decision, "this is the real one" and so we went through the correct drills of activating crisis management procedures to jump from slow time to quick time thinking and so on.
NYPD Officer Ira Greenberg was a participant in Operation Transit Safe - LIVE-REALTIME NY Subway drill. He had been assigned to London for a year before the London Subway bombing. Greenberg was also riding the Tube in London -- on his way to his Scotland Yard office, when the attack occured.

Officially it was also Greenberg, who did the first call notifying New York City that "terrorists had attacked" London, shortly after 4 a.m.

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Rudolph Giuliani, has spoken of the "eerie" experience of being in London near one of Thursday's blasts. He told the BBC he was near Liverpool Street station when the first of the four blasts was reported.

"further sheer coincidence, just happened to be only "yards from Liverpool Street station when the bombs went off."

Guiliani has made over $8 Mil on the speaking circuit talking about it.

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Peter Power [the original subject of this post] served on the Advisory Board to the Canadian Centre for Emergency Preparedness(CCEP), along with none other than Richard Sheirer, Senior Vice President, Giuliani & Partners.

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"Until recently, he was Commissioner of New York City's Mayor's Office of Emergency Management (OEM). Following the September 11th World Trade Center disaster, Mr. Sheirer, in his capacity as Director of the Mayor's Office of Emergency Management, played a key role in overseeing the City's rescue and recovery operations."

As well as being director of New York's overall emergency response planning in the lead-in to 9/11, Sheirer himself was the city's on-scene coordinator of multiple agency responses to the 9/11 attacks themselves.
 
13Boldwin
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      Tue, Jun 23, 2015, 16:04 		Giuliani Security and Safety, a subsidary of Giuliani Partners LLC. is headed by former New York head of the FBI, Pasquale D’Amuro. In deep with the Bush Neo-cons.

After 9/11, D’Amuro was appointed Inspector in Charge of the FBI’s investigation of 9/11.

And somehow it's all a mystery, no connected dots ever. For some strange reason. Hmmm...What could it be?
 
14Boldwin
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      Tue, Jun 23, 2015, 16:06 		Both Power and Giuliani were in London at the time of the bombing. No word on whether they were actually having breakfast in Giuliani's hotel room at the time.

It's all a coincidence, of course.
 
15Boldwin
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      Tue, Jun 23, 2015, 16:15 		Bean

Just pointing out 'coincidences'. You call the odds. I'm just an observer with no dog in the hunt. I'm not suggesting a solution. This world is beyond fixing.
 
16Boldwin
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      Tue, Jun 23, 2015, 16:31 		So statistics experts...what are the odds Peter Power would call a live drill the exact day, at the exact three subway stations where the bombs went off?

What are the odds Giuliani, owner of a preeminant international crisis management business, is at the same time sitting yards away from one of the bombed stations and that his man would be riding that part of the subway system when it went off, notifying and reporting on the incident?

That's crazy, not me for noticing.
 
17biliruben
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      Wed, Jun 24, 2015, 10:52 		After 5 minutes of googling, ASDs are becoming almost as common as fire drills, to the point where many states have enshrined them into law. This, coupled with the spike in the number of mass shootings due to conservative nutcases inciting violence and every wingnut buying 10 guns last year, the odds of any of this is probably well within the levels of random chance.
 
18Boldwin
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      Wed, Jun 24, 2015, 12:03 		Well sure, and they just happen to run the specific type of drill at the specific place on the specific day.

Young schoolkids...and the drill is 'Planning for the Needs of Children in Disasters'...Not a bomb at a bank or a stadium or an airport or a subway or a pipeline or a mall.
 
19biliruben
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      Wed, Jun 24, 2015, 14:11 		Yes, those are the ones that states like Missouri are making it law that you have to perform regularly. The appear to be are occurring with a very high frequency.
 
20Bean
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      Wed, Jun 24, 2015, 14:31 		I found a 4 leaf clover on the fourth of April (the fourth month).

The US government celebrates its Independence on the 4th of July and College and High Schools in this country require four years of education for graduation. You think this is a coincidence.

That four leaf clover was a conspiracy. It was planted there by the US government to lull me into thinking I was lucky to live here. They are trying to make me feel good about life, all the time trying to control my mind.

Those pricks, I'll show them, its time to become miserable about it all and make sure everyone else is too. Viva la revolution.
 
21Tree
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      Wed, Jun 24, 2015, 15:33 		Baldwin, perhaps you should go to Sandy Hook, and speak to the parents of the dead kids yourself.

tell them you believe their children aren't dead, that this is just a conspiracy, and they shouldn't grieve over nothing.
 
22Boldwin
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      Wed, Jun 24, 2015, 19:30 		Tree

Immediately afterwards each family had a government keeper posted outside their homes preventing the family from commenting or preventing the askers from asking depending on how you want to describe the same thing.

Since then each family has been receiving hundreds of thousands of dollars from foundations. [over a mil per family is my understanding]

Not sure they want to tip that over. I'm more interested in the testimony of people once removed, the teachers, local police, neighbors for example.

I've seen skeptics visiting the area and posting their videos and I won't pass up a chance to listen to any witness.

I certainly am not one of these people who leap to the comfortable zeitgeist and never experience a flash of critical thinking.
 
23Boldwin
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      Thu, Jun 25, 2015, 15:36 		'So of course, it's not like there was an active shooter drill in Charleston...' *He googled.

Wait...wtf?

 
24Boldwin
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      Thu, Jun 25, 2015, 18:53 		Aurora movie theater
The tragedy that played out in an Aurora movie theater Friday was ironically paralleled as a classroom learning experience in a medical school in Parker the same day.

Rocky Vista University College of Osteopathic Medicine is in the middle of holding specialized classes in disaster life support for 150 second-year medical students. Along with response to natural disasters like hurricanes and floods and terrorist attacks, one of the scenarios being used to train the students is how to respond if a shooter fires at people in a movie theater and also uses a bomb in the attack.

"The irony is amazing, just amazing," said Rocky Vista Dean Dr. Bruce Dubin.
 
25Boldwin
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      Thu, Jun 25, 2015, 18:57 		Boston
a police drill simulating a series of backpack bombs exploding around Boston, called Operation Urban Shield, was to take place just months before backpack bombs actually exploded at the Boston Marathon on April 15, 2013. There was also a “controlled explosion drill” that took place right after the bombs went off – with loudspeaker announcements
 
26Boldwin
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      Thu, Jun 25, 2015, 19:01 		Madrid
A few hours before the Madrid Bombings, NATO carried out a terrorism exercise in Madrid. (Translate this page)

Former Secretary General of NATO, Jaap de Hoop Scheffer, described it as a "coincidence" that, on 4 March 2004, there was an anti-terrorist exercise (CMX-04) in Madrid, finishing just a few hours before the bombings.

The NATO counterterrorism exercise involved an imagined attack which would kill 200 people.

This number is very close to the number of fatalities that occurred in the actual Madrid Bombings.
 
28Tree
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      Fri, Jun 26, 2015, 08:42 		Immediately afterwards each family had a government keeper posted outside their homes preventing the family from commenting or preventing the askers from asking depending on how you want to describe the same thing.

this, of course, is a lie.

the rest of your post, is mindless drivel, clueless at best, dishonest at worst.
 
29Khahan
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      Fri, Jun 26, 2015, 10:29 		So before it was always, "These drills are happening the same day as the events. It can't be a coincidence." And now that there is a request for proof we get, "Nato did this," or "the drill took place months before the event,"

or a hospital of all places (can you imagine that) was training students in how to handle mass trauma events. That bends my will to believe to point of snapping! Oh wait, it was in a neighboring town.

In other words, we don't have nearly the coincidences that some would have us believe. Its all manufactured. Except that hospital one. After hearing a hospital and medical training facility is actually training students to handle events that are known to happen I just don't know if I'm in the Matrix or the real world. Its just too incredible of a coincidence.
 
30Boldwin
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      Fri, Jun 26, 2015, 14:03 		I see. You'd believe I won the lottery every day this year if I could get a reporter to announce it.
 
31Khahan
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      Fri, Jun 26, 2015, 17:38 		I see. You'd believe I won the lottery every day this year if I could get a reporter to announce it.

No, I'd be skeptical until I saw proof. And when you came and showed me lottery tickets with the correct numbers but dated after the appropriate drawing I'd be in a similar situation as we are now - facing an obvious truth that you fail to see despite your own evidence.
 
33Boldwin
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      Sun, Jun 28, 2015, 03:14 		Seriously, how many ASD's get to plan the exact same scenario [among nearly infinite variables], in the exact same area, within hours of the incident before it's statistically significant?

No, not every act of terrorism involves backpacks and propane tanks and guns and a theater and the Aurora area and the same day.

No, those aren't interchangeable with a 'typical' incident as if there was such a thing..