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I have become, for lack of a better term, a DVD addict. I collect them, obsessively, like I used horde baseball cards. I always enjoyed movies - but after college I was usually too busy to get to see more than a few movies a year. However, now, with the combined forces of the advent of DVDs and a bad case of insomnia, I'm able to watch a dozen movies a week or more. I love all extra features on DVDs like the directors' commentaries, deleted scenes, prodcutions notes, etc.
Anyway, I'm approaching about 300 titles on my "collection" and I'm running short on new movies to see. I'd like suggestions and/or descriptins on your favroite movies with particular attention to foreign films or older films. (I've probally got most of the movies I would want made in the last twenty years.)
Also, anybody else share this affliction of DVDphilia? Should we have a support group? Tell me about something good you've seen lately.
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| | | 1 | Baldwin
ID: 4261155 Thu, Jul 11, 2002, 12:28
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A related issue I am interested in is the rise of 6.1 audio on DVD's. As I am about to get a Yamaha system I am wondering what is available out there. I hear it is too new to have more than a dozen DVD's with all the channels. Is that currently true?
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| | | 2 | Perm Dude Leader
ID: 19652912 Thu, Jul 11, 2002, 12:36
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I don't have many DVDs, having only gotten a player last year. But I've enjoyed a number of classics on DVD (and a year-long subscription to Blockbuster gets me a new DVD a week). What do your tastes run to?
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| | | 3 | Myboyjack Leader
ID: 4443038 Thu, Jul 11, 2002, 12:45
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Off the top of my head - My ten favorite movies (in no particular order:
The Third Man Ikiru The Good, the Bad and the Ugly The Seven Samurai The Treasure of the Sierra Madre Mean Streets The Wild Bunch Raging Bull Citizen Kane The Searchers
Has anyone seen Yojimbo?
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| | | 4 | Baldwin
ID: 4261155 Thu, Jul 11, 2002, 12:46
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The best of everything of course. My music interests are as veried as my interests here on the board.
I do lean towards Celtic/New Age/Dance/alternative rock/techno. Find me some opera as pleasing to the ear as Bocelli's Romanza and I'll even set up an opera collection. Are DVD's the only music media with 6.1 channels? I am told you can't burn your own 6.1 DVD's because the software and standards aren't even well developed yet.
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| | | 5 | Baldwin
ID: 4261155 Thu, Jul 11, 2002, 12:49
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I have a long list of movies but there are several than just own me. I can't switch from them no matter how many times I watch. They are Princess Bride, Matrix and Twelve Monkeys.
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| | | 6 | Mattinglyinthehall
ID: 1832399 Thu, Jul 11, 2002, 12:50
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Maybe this is an obvious one to the some of you old-timers, but I saw "The Day the Earth Stood Still" on FMC for the first time since I was a kid. Great, great, great film (IMHO of course)
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| | | 7 | Baldwin
ID: 4261155 Thu, Jul 11, 2002, 12:57
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One thing you have to remember is that DVD's keep coming out in revised and improved versions so you might not want to jump in and buy the first version that comes out. As an example...
First came "Men in Black", the DVD, which they released in 1997. It was your very basic "first generation" DVD, with no extras, and simple Dolby pro-logic sound.
Soon after, they released a "Men in Black" enhanced edition, in 1999, which included a new Dolby Digital soundtrack.
Then, in 2000, they released "Men in Black: special edition," a two-disc box set that included interviews, docummentaries, etc.
In 2000, they released a new edition of "Men in Black", this one with DTS soundtrack.
(June 2002) they released "Men in Black: deluxe edition", another two-disk box set... and apart from the CD-Rom enhancements, and a different cover, it's the same release as the 2000 special edition.
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| | | 8 | Myboyjack Leader
ID: 4443038 Thu, Jul 11, 2002, 13:01
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Memento is a good example of that - the recently released version having tons of features (most notably, the director's commentary) that the first release did not.
However, as an addict, I can't restrain myself - I just buy them both.
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| | | 9 | rockafellerskank Sustainer
ID: 576311110 Thu, Jul 11, 2002, 13:08
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Myboyjack: Speaking of Memento. I just watched the "Easter Egg" that allows you to see the movie in chronological order. After having watched the original 4-5x, this was a nifty trick. The "easer Egg" only appears on the new version, of course.
rfs ®
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| | | 10 | Seattle Zen Donor
ID: 554192913 Thu, Jul 11, 2002, 13:53
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Yojimbo is excellent! I believe "Last Man Standing" was Hollywood's pathetic attempt to translate it. Toshiro Mifune is my all time favorite actor and he shines in Yojimbo. It is Akira's ultimate "Western".
I urge you to get Kurusawa's Hidden Fortress, an excellent movie in its own right, but it will forever be known as the "fountainhead" of the Star Wars series, George Lucas has said so himself.
Since you like Kurusawa, I urge you to move a touch further east and check out the movies of Yimou Zhang who we will forever be indebted for bringing the world Gong Li.

The movies that I loved are
Red Sorgum Ju Dou Raise the Red Latern Qui Ju To Live Shanghai Triad Not One Less
The Road Home was a touch sappy.
Farewell My Concubine was an AMAZING movie, and I also enjoyed The Emperor and the Assassin. Man, I could go on for hours.
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| | | 11 | Baldwin
ID: 4261155 Thu, Jul 11, 2002, 13:53
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Let me add to the 'Movies that own me' list... Princess Bride Matrix Twelve Monkeys Bladerunner Monty Python and the Holy Grail (I fart in the general direction of your snickers) Dr.Strangelove: or how I... The Terminator Alien The Seven Year Itch Rear Window Apocalypse Now
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| | | 12 | Baldwin
ID: 4261155 Thu, Jul 11, 2002, 14:02
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Let me add one to the 'Movies that own me' list...
My Fair Lady
Movies about generally detestable subjects you hate to love them but can't deny their mesmerizingly high quality.
The Silence of the Lambs Scarface Goodfellas Twin Peaks Pulp Fiction
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| | | 13 | yankeeh8tr
ID: 294351716 Thu, Jul 11, 2002, 14:06
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hello?????????? not a single Bruce Lee picture named? HEATHENS!
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| | | 14 | Myboyjack Leader
ID: 4443038 Thu, Jul 11, 2002, 14:10
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Great post, SZ. I wonder how many of those are available on DVD? Any leads?
Red Sorgum was one of the most beautifully filmed movies I've ever seen.
You're right about Yojimbo being the source for last Man Standing It was earlier also the source for a better movie, A Fistfull of Dollars by Sergio Leone (the first of "the man with no name series) Do you know where I can get Yojimbo on DVD.
I've seen Hidden Fortress, and, except for the familiarity of the storyline, I didn't like it quite as much as Kurusawa's other movies. He's the best though, Ikiru is definitely one of the three best movies ever made; but I don't have a good source for finding his movies on DVD.
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| | | 15 | Myboyjack Leader
ID: 4443038 Thu, Jul 11, 2002, 14:16
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yankeeh8ter - got all the Bruce Lee pics. Lots of fun. probally the greatest athelete ever born in the USA.
I've been a Jeet Kun Do student for about four years so I'm all about Bruce. i got to study Escrima and Kali with Dan Inasanto last February (he's the guy with two sticks in Lee's last, incomplete film Game of Death
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| | | 16 | James K Polk
ID: 13516513 Thu, Jul 11, 2002, 14:22
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I bought "Return to Me" because my wife liked it.
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| | | 17 | James K Polk
ID: 13516513 Thu, Jul 11, 2002, 14:35
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Oh, c'mon guys! That one's a softball that's just been sitting around for 10 minutes now! :)
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| | | 18 | Myboyjack Leader
ID: 4443038 Thu, Jul 11, 2002, 14:39
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What, are you asking for Doug Christie memorial jersey be sent to you, Prez?
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| | | 19 | James K Polk
ID: 13516513 Thu, Jul 11, 2002, 14:42
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LOL. Nope, just every once in awhile you've got to serve one up so someone can get all Karch Kiraly on it.
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| | | 20 | Baldwin
ID: 4261155 Thu, Jul 11, 2002, 15:15
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Being There
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| | | 21 | James K Polk
ID: 13516513 Thu, Jul 11, 2002, 15:36
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The original French "La Femme Nikita" is wonderful, of course.
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| | | 22 | Perm Dude Leader
ID: 19652912 Thu, Jul 11, 2002, 15:50
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Yeah, the original is best, Mr. P.
Others:
Das Boot Unforgiven The Tall Guy Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon Cinema Paradiso Europa Europa
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| | | 23 | Baldwin
ID: 4261155 Thu, Jul 11, 2002, 21:23
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Wings of Desire Danton Baraka Anything with Robert Duvall, DiNero or Meryll Streep Anything with Liv Tylers face in it. Heck lets throw in Elizabeth Shue in there too just for fun Shine Dune Dark City Pretty Woman Scavenger Hunt (ok that's a stretch but its a hoot) The best of the SF/Fantasy blockbusters, Star Wars, Fifth Element, Jurasic Park, Lord Of The Rings, 2001: A Space Odessey
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| | | 24 | The Beezer Leader
ID: 23520518 Thu, Jul 11, 2002, 22:09
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MBJ, if you don't have On the Waterfront, you need to get it. Brando's best. Amazon's running a special right now selling it and Special Edition Citizen Kane for $43.98. Hmmm, I may just have to pick that up myself....
RUN FOR YOUR LIVES FOLKS, THE INFECTION IS SPREADING!!!!! :)
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| | | 25 | Baldwin
ID: 4261155 Thu, Jul 11, 2002, 22:29
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Orlando [don't buy into the wierdness, just marvel at the breathtaking production values]
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| | | 26 | Baldwin
ID: 4261155 Thu, Jul 11, 2002, 22:40
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Time Bandits English Patient Life is Beautiful The Man in the Moon Oh Brother; Where Art Thou
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| | | 27 | Baldwin
ID: 4261155 Thu, Jul 11, 2002, 22:51
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Body Heat Schindler's List Sophie's Choice
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| | | 28 | biliruben Sustainer
ID: 59434124 Thu, Jul 11, 2002, 23:34
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I am very scared. Baldwin and I have very similar tastes in movies.
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| | | 29 | Myboyjack Leader
ID: 4443038 Fri, Jul 12, 2002, 08:12
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I don't have On the Waterfront yet. A must buy.
I shoulda been a contenda'
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| | | 30 | Mattinglyinthehall
ID: 1832399 Fri, Jul 12, 2002, 08:31
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Baldwin or anyone else Re Timebandits, one of my favorite flicks growing up, what's with that ending? His parents are gone, dead, and that's it? The kid is orphaned because his parents touch some left over evil in the toaster oven and that's the ending? Everytime I hear that movie brought up it's always agreed that it's a good film but nobody ever questions the ending. When I bring it up I'm always receive a shrug in response. It's been a long time, but am I missing something?
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| | | 31 | Perm Dude Leader
ID: 19652912 Fri, Jul 12, 2002, 08:43
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Yeah, the ending.
;)
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| | | 32 | Baldwin
ID: 4261155 Fri, Jul 12, 2002, 12:34
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MITH
I think it was meant [this is coming from a lefty perspective] to be a punishment for the parents always chosing materialism [against their kids better judgement-pffft] and it got them in the end in a 'turned into a pillar of salt' kind of way for one association too many with ultimate evil. Which to a lefty means consumerism judging by that movie.
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| | | 33 | Baldwin
ID: 4261155 Fri, Jul 12, 2002, 12:59
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I guess chasing through the universe with a stolen map looking to steal 'as much good stuff as possible' makes the Time Bandits charming rogues and adventurers who should be winked at by the almighty but striving to honestly aquire 'as much good stuff as possible' through hard work, well bad Karma will surely get you for that in the end.
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| | | 34 | Mattinglyinthehall
ID: 1832399 Fri, Jul 12, 2002, 13:19
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Guess I'll have to check it again. Since, iirc, we only meet his parents early in the film (is he grounded for some reason before the time bandits appear in his room?) and then once he returns from his adventure, it's likely that there's some dialogue between him and them that justifies their demise in the end that I didn't catch or don't remember. Still, I don't get having the film end with firemen ignoring him as they pack up and leave him standing in front of his burnt down house calling for his dead parents.
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| | | 35 | Baldwin
ID: 4261155 Fri, Jul 12, 2002, 13:23
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It's a liberal morality play. They just bought one too many shiny kitchen appliances and paid the price.
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| | | 36 | Mattinglyinthehall
ID: 1832399 Fri, Jul 12, 2002, 13:44
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Hmmm. In doing so they make the hero a victim.
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| | | 37 | Baldwin
ID: 4261155 Fri, Jul 12, 2002, 13:49
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Ahh but Liberals have no use for parents anyway and this is one more example of the media pushing the notion that children are wiser than their parents. A pretty handy notion when you are in the political child abuse business.
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| | | 38 | Mattinglyinthehall
ID: 1832399 Fri, Jul 12, 2002, 13:59
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lol. Still manages to make your favorites list, tho.
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| | | 39 | Baldwin
ID: 4261155 Fri, Jul 12, 2002, 14:17
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I gotta love that 'RobbinHood' scene where Robbinhood's Marxist largess must come with obligitory brutality attached. Not just a favorite, I simply can't avoid watching it.
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| | | 40 | Harkonnon
ID: 34149816 Sat, Jul 13, 2002, 18:53
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I dunno which of these is actually on DVD, but so what..
in no particular order
MASH
Slapshot
The Usual Suspects
Arsenic and old Lace
Silent Running
As Good as it gets
Hunt for Red October
Die Brücke (I don't know if there is an English Language Edition)
American History x
The Sixth Sense
Clockwork Orange
Field of Dreams
maybe there are a few new ones (or forgotten old ones) even for a movie addict.
Hark
PS... not a movie, but a classic nonetheless. This is a must for any December 31 (for over 30 years now) on German TV. definitely a must see Dinner for One
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| | | 41 | Baldwin
ID: 4261155 Sat, Jul 13, 2002, 19:29
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Tender Mercies
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| | | 42 | Makisupa Donor
ID: 273192523 Sat, Jul 13, 2002, 20:21
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Baldwin or anyone else that is interested, I can tell you more than you'd like to know about 24bit DVD-audio. I don't want to bore everyone, but you guys won't believe your ears when 24bit playback is commonplace. Its easily as stunning a jump as cassette > CD was....seriously.
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| | | 43 | Baldwin
ID: 4261155 Sat, Jul 13, 2002, 20:55
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So will DVD audio supercede CD's? Also if you point me in the direction of 6.1 info please do.
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| | | 44 | Baldwin
ID: 4261155 Sat, Jul 13, 2002, 21:06
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competing standards in surround sound
I am crazy for Yamaha DSP and since Yamaha does not wish to share their proprietary tech with the THX people as would be neccessary to be certified they are out of the loop on all THX standards. Which leaves me rooting for Dolby standards.
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| | | 45 | Baldwin
ID: 4261155 Sun, Jul 14, 2002, 03:11
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Eureka
Let me know if this link works for you.
A listing of releases with newest state of the art 6.1 standards.
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| | | 46 | Myboyjack Leader
ID: 4443038 Mon, Jul 15, 2002, 12:52
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Found, purchased and watched Yojimbo the weekend. Highly recommended!
Kurosawa and Mifune rule. Mifune can express and evoke more with a shrug of the shoulders than other actors can with two hours of prancing on screen. If you guys aren't familar with their movies, you must fix that.
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| | | 47 | James K Polk
ID: 13516513 Fri, Jul 19, 2002, 19:24
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Grosse Point Blank!
I was trying to think of what to pick up at Blockbuster (got one of those LOTR DVD, free 10 wks of rental cards) and was going over the John Cusack filmography. Grosse Point Blank was greatness.
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| | | 48 | BlueBalls
ID: 36592323 Sat, Jul 20, 2002, 10:42
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Finally someone mensions Clockwork Orange. Very few Kubrick movies mentioned. If you're a fan, I would definetly beef up your Kubrick collection. How about Taxi Driver? Gotta luv DiNero! Pulp Fiction is one of my favorites. Nobody mentions the Godfather?!? I'm sure that mbj has this movie, but it's still worth a mention. I'm drawing a blank now, but I'll get back to you with more great movies.
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| | | 49 | James K Polk
ID: 13516513 Wed, Jul 24, 2002, 20:24
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In non-DVD news, he'll be bach. Again.
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| | | 50 | Myboyjack Leader
ID: 4443038 Thu, Jul 25, 2002, 08:17
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He'll be Bach? Wonder if e can pay fugue.
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| | | 51 | Micheal
ID: 476182523 Fri, Jul 26, 2002, 02:58
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Braveheart Godfather I,II Scarface Dumb and Dumber
Not as deep as SZ's list but great movies.
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| | | 52 | jones
ID: 90522912 Tue, Jul 30, 2002, 15:12
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Scarface for sure...
...a note on Pulp Fiction....a new collectors edition comes out in the next 3-4 weeks...i can't remember what it has on it though...of course collectors editions come out for every movie it seems like now...
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| | | 53 | Makisupa Donor
ID: 273192523 Sun, Aug 11, 2002, 12:20
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I have really been looking forward to the DVD release of 24.

The new Tarantino transfers look to be excellent. Off the top of my head, I can't think of a more 'extras' laden release than the upcoming Resevoir Dogs one. Finally some justice to Pulp Fiction, which has endured a DVD lifespan as one of the shoddiest transfers of all time.
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| | | 54 | James K Polk
ID: 23754811 Mon, Aug 12, 2002, 14:40
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Thanks for the heads-up on "24," Makisupa. I've been waiting for that one too. As well as for "Malcolm in the Middle." :)
BTW, if you haven't tried it, dvdempire.com kicks butt. Nearly always the best prices I can find, and the shipping is awesome. People I know who've ordered new releases there always seem to get them a day early.
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| | | 55 | jones
ID: 90522912 Mon, Aug 19, 2002, 16:53
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I finally found this thread again...
Deepdiscountdvd.com is also a great place to find dvds...the prices are comparable and many times cheaper than the above mentioned site...right now they have free shipping also...i'm not sure about how fast the new releases get there though... one problem with the site is it takes so long to load at times...they also have a cd site...deepdiscountcd.com
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| | | 56 | Seattle Zen Donor
ID: 554192913 Fri, Nov 01, 2002, 16:48
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Kurosawa and Mifune rule. Mifune can express and evoke more with a shrug of the shoulders than other actors can with two hours of prancing on screen. If you guys aren't familar with their movies, you must fix that.
For all you Seattlites, here is your oportunity to "fix that" on the big screen!

Kurosawa Film Fest
Fri & Sat, Nov 8 & 9 • Throne of Blood* Sun & Mon, Nov 10 & 11 • Hidden Fortress Tuesday, November 12 • I Live in Fear* Wed & Thurs, Nov 13 & 14 • Yojimbo and Sanjuro (double bill!) Fri & Sat, Nov 15 & 16 • Stray Dog* and Drunken Angel* (double bill!) Sun & Mon, Nov 17 & 18 • Red Beard Tuesday, November 19 • The Bad Sleep Well* Wed & Thurs, Nov 20 & 21 • Rashomon and High and Low (double bill!) Fri, Nov 22 thru Thurs, Nov 28 • Seven Samurai*
* = New translations and subtitles!
I await these movies with baited breath, having never had the joy to experience Kurosawa and Mifune on the big screen.
I've got a spare room if you want to come visit Seattle, MBJ. :)
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| | | 57 | Myboyjack Leader
ID: 14826271 Fri, Nov 01, 2002, 17:46
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OMG - I am now sick with envy.
Don't miss any of them. The only ones I don't now have on DVD are "Drunken Angel", "Stray Dog" (I think that was their first movie together) and "The Bad Sleep Well"
You guys in the city are sure lucky sometimes. :(
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| | | 58 | biliruben Sustainer
ID: 3502218 Fri, Nov 01, 2002, 18:13
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I slept through a couple of later Kurosawa (appropriately, Dreams, was one) and found his work painful to watch. That all changed when I rented Seven Samurai last week on widescreen DVD. Absolutely fantastic! I'll catch one with you, Zen, if you can pick something comparible to SS.
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| | | 59 | Seattle Zen Donor
ID: 554192913 Fri, Nov 01, 2002, 18:27
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Sweet, I've never seen I Live in Fear so I don't know how good it is, But Yojimbo and Sanjuro rock! So pencil in either Wed. or Thurs. night.
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| | | 60 | Myboyjack Leader
ID: 14826271 Fri, Nov 01, 2002, 18:29
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"Throne of Blood" with Mifune as a Japanese MacBeth is good.
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| | | 61 | Seattle Zen Donor
ID: 554192913 Fri, Nov 01, 2002, 18:34
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Throne of Blood is excellent, very dark and intense, but, alas, I'll be in Guatemala, so you'ld be on your own, Bili.
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| | | 62 | James K Polk
ID: 23754811 Fri, Nov 01, 2002, 19:17
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Pretty cool. We have to settle for a Rocky Horror reprise this weekend over in Spokane.
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| | | 63 | Myboyjack Leader
ID: 14826271 Fri, Nov 01, 2002, 19:22
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Yes, and we have "VegieTales" with those damn singing vegetables. Bad times.
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| | | 64 | Myboyjack Leader
ID: 108231015 Tue, Nov 05, 2002, 13:55
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Any need to buy advance tickets to the Landmark Theater?
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| | | 65 | Seattle Zen Donor
ID: 554192913 Tue, Nov 05, 2002, 15:41
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I would hope not. Why, you coming out?
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| | | 66 | Myboyjack Leader
ID: 14826271 Tue, Nov 05, 2002, 19:57
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Uh..yeah. The closest that Kurosawa festival is coming to me is Cleveland (ugh). I'm not going to miss the chance to Seven Samourai on the big screen. I've got some serious frequent flyer miles to use up anyway - so what the hell. Making a Doug Christie to Seattle on the 22nd. (Don't get scared - I'm not coming to your doorstep or anything. ;)
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| | | 67 | biliruben Sustainer
ID: 3502218 Tue, Nov 05, 2002, 21:16
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You really coming out, mbj? We should at least grab a beer and show you a seattlite drinks, if I am in town, which I think I should be.
If I survived meeting Mr. Prez in person, you shouldn't be much scarier. ;)
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| | | 68 | Myboyjack Leader
ID: 14826271 Tue, Nov 05, 2002, 23:27
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Absolutely. I fly in Friday the 22nd. I know nothing about Seattle (it's in Washington, right?). We're staying somewhere downtown. My wife says there's a fishmarket or something like that in Seattle. ;) I'll be happy if there's a gym somewhere around.
Beer is good but I promise, after I've had a few, I'm scarier that Mr. Prez
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| | | 69 | biliruben Sustainer
ID: 3502218 Tue, Nov 05, 2002, 23:36
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Great - drop me an email when it gets closer to the date, and we will work out some details. Maybe I can corner Zen (who owes me a pitcher, I believe, which I will gladly share) and even elusive Nerveclinic (who I have never met), if we are lucky.
Just in time for some rain and the powerful winterbrew season.
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| | | 70 | Myboyjack Leader
ID: 14826271 Wed, Nov 06, 2002, 00:25
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Cool. Will do.
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| | | 71 | James K Polk
ID: 23754811 Wed, Nov 06, 2002, 12:15
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Screw you all! No one is more frightening than me!!
That's it, I'm just going to have to post the really fuzzy picture of me and biliruben outside Pyramid. Although my brother-in-law was standing way too far away, apparently, so I only look frightening if you're scared by very small people.
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| | | 72 | Seattle Zen Donor
ID: 554192913 Tue, Nov 12, 2002, 15:02
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Sweet!
I am definately looking forward to meeting you and your better half. Bili and I will give you two large brushes and we'll paint this town red.
I'll even take you to my gym, if you need to be shown how properly build a body, country lawyer ;)
Seattle Zen
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| | | 73 | Myboyjack Leader
ID: 14826271 Tue, Nov 12, 2002, 20:39
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Man if you could hook me up with a gym that Saturday, I'd be eternally grateful. One of the real pains of travelling is having withdrawal from a workout addiction.
'Course all we have to lift out here in the boonies are tobaccobales and pig slop ;0).
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| | | 74 | James K Polk
ID: 51010719 Mon, Feb 17, 2003, 13:48
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Will plug this in here: A Mighty Wind. Christopher Guest, Michael McKean and Harry Shearer have a new film coming out.
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| | | 75 | Myboyjack Leader
ID: 108231015 Mon, Feb 17, 2003, 13:55
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LOL. Looks like This is Spinal Tap meets Peter, Paul and Mary.
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| | | 76 | James K Polk
ID: 51010719 Mon, Feb 17, 2003, 14:06
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Yep! Loved "Spinal Tap," loved "Waiting for Guffman." Didn't really care for "Best in Show."
And I'll generally stop and watch a movie on IFC if Parker Posey's on the cast list. She's great.
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| | | 77 | James K Polk
ID: 51010719 Sun, Mar 02, 2003, 21:24
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I could've sworn there were references in this thread to David Mamet, and specifically to "Glengarry Glen Ross." Guess I was wrong. But will post this link anyway. ABC. Lemme buy you a packa gum and show you how to chew it.
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| | | 79 | Texas Flood Donor
ID: 40211014 Tue, Apr 29, 2003, 15:24
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Beau Geste Zulu Shaka Zulu The Alamo The Warlord El Cid Gettysburg Tora, Tora, Tora Inherit the Wind Shane The Outlaw Josy Wales The Buccaneer Munity on the Bounty The Caine Munity The Vikings Ivanhoe Ben Hur Rebel Without a Cause Cat on a Hot Tin Roof Easy Rider Serpico The Graduate Blackborad Jungle Physco The Greatest Show on Earth Spartacus Glory Maltese Falcon Memphis Belle Patton Battle of the Bulge Midway Das Boot The Sandlot Stand by Me Mystery Alaska Slap Shot Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid The Hustler Cool Hand Luke This is Spinal Tap North by Northwest The Birds Robin Hood
and i can't remember the name of the great WWI movie starring Gary Cooper.
and opps i almost forgot Last of the Mohican's, Rob Roy, The Patroit and Gone with the Wind.
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| | | 80 | Myboyjack Leader
ID: 14826271 Tue, Apr 29, 2003, 19:47
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WWI movie with Gary Cooper as Private York?
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| | | 81 | biliruben Sustainer
ID: 49132614 Tue, Apr 29, 2003, 19:49
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Seargant York, no?
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| | | 82 | Myboyjack Leader
ID: 14826271 Tue, Apr 29, 2003, 19:52
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Well sure, AFTER he shot all those Germans using his turkey gobble and spit technique.
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| | | 83 | Texas Flood Donor
ID: 311039208 Tue, Apr 29, 2003, 20:28
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Yes, that's it Sargent York. Thanks. i've seen that movie so many time but just could'nt remember the title.
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| | | 84 | katietx
ID: 48326255 Tue, Apr 29, 2003, 22:15
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Wow! Does that bring back memories of the drive-in when I was a kid. Big 'ol sack of White Castle hamburgers, cokes, pj's and a pillow.
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| | | 85 | Cosmo's Cod Piece
ID: 53439419 Sun, May 11, 2003, 12:27
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I'm a DVD nut to the Nth degree.
Here's an excerpt from the spreadsheet I maintain to organize my DVD changer.
8 Mile 9/11 A Beautiful Mind: Disk 1 A Beautiful Mind: Disk 2 A Clockwork Orange American Pie American Pie 2 American Pimp Apocalypse Now: Redux Armageddon Austin Powers: Goldmember Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me Beauty and the Beast: Disk 1 Beauty and the Beast: Disk 2 Big Daddy Blackhawk Down Blade Blade II: Disk 1 Blade II: Disk 2 Blade Runner: The Director's Cut Boogeymen Braveheart Cast Away: Disk 1 Cast Away: Disk 2 Chris Rock: Bigger & Blacker Collateral Damage Commando Contact Detroit Rock City Dirty Work Dragonfly Ed Gein End of Days Eraser Field of Dreams Fight Club: Disk 1 Fight Club: Disk 2 Final Fantasy: Disk 1 Final Fantasy: Disk 2 Forest Gump: Disk 1 Forest Gump: Disk 2 Frailty Full Metal Jacket Goodfellas Halloween Hannibal: Disk 1 Hannibal: Disk 2 Heat Heavy Metal 2000 I Am Sam In Memorium: 9/11 In The Line Of Fire Independence Day: Disk 1 Independence Day: Disk 2 Jimi Hendrix: Experience Judgement Day: 2001 Jurassic Park Jurassic Park: The Lost World K-Pax Kung Pow: Enter the Fist Legally Blonde Lethal Weapon 4 Little Nicky Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring: Disk 1 Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring: Disk 2 Lost In Space Mallrats Meet The Parents Men In Black 2: Disk 1 Men In Black 2: Disk 2 Minority Report: Disk 1 Minority Report: Disk 2 Monsters, Inc: Disk 1 Monsters, Inc: Disk 2 My Big Fat Greek Wedding Navy Seals Night of the Living Dead Office Space One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest: Disk 1 One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest: Disk 2 Platoon Predator Pulp Fiction: Disk 1 Pulp Fiction: Disk 2 Rambo: First Blood Rambo: First Blood Part 2 Red Dragon: Disk 1 Red Dragon: Disk 2 Reservoir Dogs: Disk 1: Widescreen Reservoir Dogs: Disk 2: Fullscreen Road Trip: Unrated Robin Williams: Live On Broadway Rocky IV Royal Rumble 2000 Royal Rumble 2001 Saving Private Ryan SCSA: Hell Yeah Serial Killers: The Real Hannibal Lecters Seven Shrek: Disk 1 Shrek: Disk 2 Signs Six Days, Seven Nights Sound of Music: Disk 1 South Park Volume 1 South Park Volume 2 South Park Volume 3 South Park Volume 4 South Park Volume 5 South Park Volume 6 South Park: Bigger, Longer, & Uncut Spawn: Director's Cut Spiderman: Disk 1 Spiderman: Disk 2 Star Wars: Attack of the Clones: Disk 1 Star Wars: Attack of the Clones: Disk 2 Star Wars: The Phantom Menace Disk 1 Star Wars: The Phantom Menace Disk 2 Stargate Stone Cold Steve Austin: What? Stripes Summerslam Survivor Series Sweet Home Alabama Terminator 2: Judgement Day The Blair Witch Project The Bourne Identity The Corruptor The Exorcist The Godfather Part 1: Disk 1 The Godfather Part 2: Disk 1 The Godfather Part 2: Disk 2 The Godfather Part 3: Disk 1 The Godfather: Bonus Materials The Green Mile The Hitcher The Matrix The Mothman Prophecies The Natural The Others: Disk 1 The Others: Disk 2 The Ring The Rock: The People's Champ The Running Man The Silence Of The Lambs The Simpsons: Season 1: Disk 1 The Simpsons: Season 1: Disk 2 The Simpsons: Season 1: Disk 3 The Simpsons: Season 2: Disk 1 The Simpsons: Season 2: Disk 2 The Simpsons: Season 2: Disk 3 The Simpsons: Season 2: Disk 4 The Sixth Sense The Sopranos: Year 1: Disk 1 The Sopranos: Year 1: Disk 2 The Sopranos: Year 1: Disk 3 The Sopranos: Year 1: Disk 4 The Ten Commandments: Disk 1 The Ten Commandments: Disk 2 The Terminator: Special Edition The Time Machine The Wedding Singer There's Something About Mary: Special Edition Titan: A.E. Titanic Top Gun Total Recall Training Day Triple H: That Damn Good Triple H: The Game Unbreakable: Disk 1 Unbreakable: Disk 2 Undertaker: This Is My Yard Varsity Blues We Were Soldiers What Dreams May Come Wrestlemania 2000: Disk 1 Wrestlemania 2000: Disk 2 Wrestlemania XV Wrestlemania XVII: Disk 1 Wrestlemania XVII: Disk 2 Wrestlemania XVIII: Disk 1 Wrestlemania XVIII: Disk 2 X-Men
My personal favorite movies are: Gladiator, Training Day, The Corruptor, and My Big Fat Greek Wedding.
The best DVD is The Godfather Boxed Set. If only the third movie didn't have Andy Garcia and had a more similar feel to the first two.
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| | | 86 | Myboyjack Leader
ID: 14826271 Sun, May 11, 2003, 14:10
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CCP, you own both Six Days, Seven Nights and Commando. Please see post #78.
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| | | 87 | Cosmo's Cod Piece
ID: 53439419 Sun, May 11, 2003, 15:35
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MBJ: I got Six Days, Seven Nights as a freebie along with Lost In Space, Lethal Weapon 4 and Stepmom for free when I bought my first DVD player about four years ago. Best Buy (who I am now boycotting) was offering them as a mail in gimmick if you bought a player over a certain value.
As far as Commando goes, I love that movie and it was part of an Ahnald four pack. The other three were Predator, Total Recall and The Running Man (one of my favorite Arnold movies b/c of Richard Dawson).
I remember back in the day when I got my first player. The movies I bought that day were: The Matrix, Halloween, and the Arnold Four Pack.
What was the first DVD you bought?
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| | | 88 | Myboyjack Leader
ID: 14826271 Sun, May 11, 2003, 20:52
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My wife bought me a DVD player and my first DVD for Father's Day some years ago. She bought me Unforgiven. I can't remember the forst DVD I bought; it was either Enter the Dragon, The Maltese Falcon, or The Searchers I bought all three the first week I discovered the glory of DVD
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| | | 89 | Cosmo's Cod Piece
ID: 53439419 Sun, May 11, 2003, 22:19
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MBJ: I don't know if you already own these, but I consider these at LEAST must rentals just to appreciate their DVD qualities.
The Matrix - The improved video and audio of DVD really bring out the best in this movie. Everybody I know who owns a DVD player (except my brother) also owns this movie.
Beauty and the Beast - Kick tushie extras. Try playing the games on the other disk because they're a blast.
Fight Club - Watch it with the commentary. It will be well worth your time.
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| | | 90 | Myboyjack Leader
ID: 14826271 Sun, May 11, 2003, 22:27
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Got 'em. The Fight Club commentary (there are three different tracks) with Pitt, Norton and Director Ed Norton is a real classic; second only to the Boogie Nights director's commentary for entertainment value.
BTW, if you're into directors' commentaries, the DVD version of Werner Herzog's films are absolute musts. Insightful, philsophical and unintenitally hilarious all at once.
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| | | 91 | Cosmo's Cod Piece
ID: 53439419 Sun, May 11, 2003, 22:34
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Have you seen Scarface? If so, please give me your take on it, good or bad.
Mrs. Cod Piece and I like to do blind buys and so far we've been doing rather well except for Dragonfly and The Mothman Prophecies.
We figure that if we feel "so so" about a movie when it comes out, that we're better off not going and just buying it once it comes out. Reason being, it's only $20 plus the cost of take out food and by us a night at the movies is at least $50 including dinner.
The must sees we go to the show, but marginal flicks we wait out.
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| | | 92 | Myboyjack Leader
ID: 108231015 Mon, May 12, 2003, 09:47
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Do you mean De Palma's and Pacino's Scarface or the Howard Hakes, Paul Munni Scarface? I highly recomend Hawkes' Scarface, but assume you meant Pacino's version. (I can't believe you haven't seen it, I thought everyone had :) )
It's entertaining, I guess. Pacino's over-the-top performance is good for lots of unintentional comedy. The whole say hello to my little freend thing sends me howling every time. The Oliver Stone script is too disjointed for my taste. Lots of memorable violence though. I actually lived in S. Florida during the early '80's and the movie picks up on the vibe that was present there at the time where the coke lords were more respectable and visible than the politicians. The movie's very pretentitios though; it's entertaining but not art. I'd say it was worth the $15 I paid for it on EBay.
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| | | 93 | Seattle Zen Donor
ID: 55343019 Mon, May 12, 2003, 18:17
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For a Green Card, I'll carve him up reeeel gooood
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| | | 94 | TBRaiders Sustainer
ID: 1910151420 Tue, May 13, 2003, 09:56
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Lots of good movies listed above, but missing a couple that I enjoy:
The Patriot- I rank it right up there with Braveheart.
The Game- Michael Douglas, Sean Penn. Never heard of it until CBS Columbia House sent to me by mistake a few years ago. I watched it and was impressed.
Knights Tale- Cute flick. I just bought the DVD and enjoy it.
Saving Private Ryan- 10X better on DVD than VCR and the VCR version is pretty good.
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| | | 95 | sarge33rd
ID: 324532412 Tue, May 13, 2003, 10:29
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our DVD player recently went kaput. Looking to replace it. In the collective opinions of those who have posted here,
A) Do you get THAT much more out of $350 setup vs a $200 setup vs a $150 one? (Or any other price breaks you care to insert.)
B) Is there a single manufacturer that it is either recommended OR recommended to avoid?
C) Are there certain capabilities your DVD player has that you didnt think were too important, but now after having access to those features, you cant imagine NOT having them? (Of the course the reverse question would also apply, Are there features yoou thought would be important but it turns oout you havent used or needed them?)
Thanks for any input you care to provide gang.
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| | | 96 | Whitey Sustainer
ID: 593231710 Tue, May 13, 2003, 11:11
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CCP - Awesome collection. We have the same taste in movies. Most of the movies on your list I have on videocassette and I have about 25% of them on DVD. Good taste
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| | | 97 | beastiemiked Sustainer
ID: 3531815 Tue, May 13, 2003, 11:40
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CCP, mind explaining the reason for these 2 buys?
Kung Pow: Enter the Fist Little Nicky
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| | | 98 | Perm Dude Leader
ID: 2345588 Tue, May 13, 2003, 11:51
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Sarge,
I might have mentioned this on the boards before, but when I went to get a DVD player I did a lot of price shopping around and in the same trip popped into the local Blockbuster to check out their selection. Turns out that they had a special in which you bought a decent Phillips DVD player from them (for $250) they gave you a free DVD rental once a week for a year.
If you use it each week (as we did) it just about pays for itself by the time the free DVDs run out.
pd
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| | | 99 | Baldwin
ID: 4261155 Tue, May 13, 2003, 11:53
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I went middle of the road but made sure I got 5.1, high processing rate, 3/2 interpolation [or whatever it's called, movies and tv run at different frame rates], and progressive scan. You should be happy for a long time with that sort of setup.
It's been a while so I forget what sort of questions you need to ask about high definition compatibility.
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| | | 100 | Baldwin
ID: 4261155 Tue, May 13, 2003, 11:54
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The term should have been 3/2 pull down.
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| | | 101 | TBRaiders Sustainer
ID: 1910151420 Tue, May 13, 2003, 13:16
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Ref #97- I cannot explain for him, but I can admit that I wouldn't post my entire collection. I have bought some real stinkers, especially when Walmart suckers me in with their $5.88 specials. There really is a reason they sell them for $5.88.
Little Nicky is a great movie compared to one I bought with Adam Sandler in it. It came out after Billy Madison, which is a dumb movie but made me laugh quite a bit, so I figured it must be okay. I think it is called Overboard. Horrible movie.
Two movies that were must have when I was younger: Heathers and Revenge of the Toxic Avenger You are required to have a very warped sense of humor to remotely enjoy either flick.
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| | | 102 | Whitey Sustainer
ID: 593231710 Tue, May 13, 2003, 14:00
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Some of my recent DVD buys:
The Ring Swingers The Shining Rocky The Toy War Games Willy Wonka (I'm going on 30 years old and this is still one of my favorites....does that make me some kind of wacko?) Tin Cup Lord of the Rings: Fellowship Silence of the Lambs Hannibal Red Dragon Tombstone (one of my favorite movies) Meet The Parents
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| | | 103 | Seattle Zen Donor
ID: 55343019 Tue, May 13, 2003, 14:12
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Willy Wonka (I'm going on 30 years old and this is still one of my favorites....does that make me some kind of wacko?)
Only if you are sober.
In Seattle, there is a 600 seat theater that shows movies at midnight on Fridays and Saturdays. I went to see Willy Wonka one night and the place was PACKED! The best part was that the whole audience SANG ALONG! Really quite fun. I don't think there was a non-bloodshot eye in the crowd :)
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| | | 105 | TBRaiders Sustainer
ID: 1910151420 Tue, May 13, 2003, 16:05
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Correction to post #101. It is just called The Toxic Avenger. I was surfing around dvdempire.com and looked it up. Great site to check out DVDs, but I think better deals can be found locally.
Cannot believe they want 20 bucks for it. I will always remember a scene where he tears off a guy's arm and then beats him with it.
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| | | 106 | Cosmo's Cod Piece
ID: 53439419 Tue, May 13, 2003, 18:28
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Sarge: This little (No jokes, remember its not size right?) Private can help you out sir.
Yes sir there is a major difference between a $350, $200 and less DVD player. If you have the RGB connectors on the back of your TV, MAKE CERTAIN you buy a player that supports it. Just like lethal ammo versus rubber bullets you will know the difference.
The rig in my living room is a Sony 200 Disc DVD/CD Changer. Bought for around $550. If you're a nut like I am, you will be in nirvana.
However, as long as the player has RGB connection capability you're good to go if your TV supports it.
Another thing is Progressive Scan. I believe you must own a TV that supports Progressive Scan to utilize a DVD player that uses Progressive Scan.
Lastly, check to see if it supports CD-R, CD-RW, VCD, SVCD and regular CD's. Most new ones do.
No real brand preference, I just chose the Sony for the living room because I'm more familiar with their brand. I have an El Cheapo in my bedroom and it works fine. $50 on sale at Best Buy.
Whitey: Thanks for the compliment. I like Tin Cup and Tombstone in your collection. I don't know why, but I laugh my Cod Piece off everytime I watch it. Tombstone is awesome with Val Kilmer. "You darn drunk. You can't shoot me. Ya probably see two of me." - Bad Guy "That's OK. I got a gun for each 'a ya's." Val Kilmer.
bestiemiked: Little Nicky is Adam Sandler's second best movie next to Waterboy. COVER HENRY WINKLER WITH BEES!!! I haven't bought Waterboy yet because I haven't found it on DVD when I've been shopping.
As for Kung Pow. My best friend and I have a tradition of buying "B" level movies for each other for various holidays. I once bought him Nude Tai Chi, Hollywood Chainsaw Hookers, and a female gladiator rip off called Arena.
Willy Wonka rocks on DVD with all of the colors.
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| | | 107 | KnicksFan Donor
ID: 439341814 Tue, May 13, 2003, 19:21
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I got screwed with my Willy Wonka DVD. It has no special features aside from the "interactive menu" and language selection. Soon after I got it they came out with another edition that was packed with special features.
Same thing happened with LOTR...soon after the DVD came out and everyone was suckered into buying it, they produced a "special edition" DVD.
Here's a tip for making comedies even funnier than usual: Watch them in some alternate language. I watched Dumb and Dumber in French, and even though I've seen that movie about 1000 times, I was rolling on the floor. Hearing French guys sing "Mocking Bird" is priceless.
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| | | 108 | Cosmo's Cod Piece
ID: 53439419 Tue, May 13, 2003, 20:57
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KnicksFan: The scene where Jim Carrey says, "Do you want to hear the most annoying sound in the world?". Then he proceeds to give some kind of unholy yelp.
Well, if the movie is in French, that must be the REAL most annoying sound.
I do hear ya on that point though. Around Chicago we have a Spanish network that plays movies in Spanish. Mad Max in Spanish is something to watch for the very reason you stated.
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| | | 109 | Tree Donor
ID: 6423822 Tue, May 13, 2003, 22:21
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here in NYC we have the same thing. either saturday or sunday afternoons, one of the spanish language channels is running an american movie in spanish.
there are few things more funny than seening Jackie Chan or Arnold Schwarzneggar speaking Spanish.
peace, Tree
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| | | 110 | TBRaiders Sustainer
ID: 1910151420 Wed, May 14, 2003, 02:12
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When I was in Italy, we just got back from having a few brews and I flipped on the TV in my hotel room. I got to watch Different Strokes in Italian. That was a riot. The little short guy had a real deep voice. "Whatch you talkin' about, Willis" had me in tears. I think every other channel had either Three Stooges or Jerry Lewis reruns.
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| | | 111 | Cosmo's Cod Piece
ID: 53439419 Wed, May 14, 2003, 06:22
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Tree:
Are some of those Spanish shows called TeleFutura or Sabado Gigante? My friends and I love to have a few and watch those in my buddy's garage.
Spanish variety shows are hysterical. Not just the fact that the movies are in Spanish, but other things they do are really funny. I'd wish they'd televise Sabado Gigante in English.
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| | | 112 | Baldwin
ID: 4261155 Sat, May 17, 2003, 06:10
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...and as always Mr. Phelps, should you chose to view this DVD it will self-destruct in two days.
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| | | 113 | Cosmo's Cod Piece
ID: 53439419 Sat, May 17, 2003, 06:18
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I shouldn't be too shocked that Disney would come out with that. It's only going to increase the quality of DVD burning techology out there. I can also see the gripe of a package not being sealed properly and somebody buys one of these and its unreadable.
You know what's cool about the whole thing is that this tech smacks of a CIA spy.
Now if only the laser watch would come out to market.
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| | | 114 | Seattle Zen Donor
ID: 55343019 Wed, Jun 04, 2003, 02:02
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MBJ - Movie alert

MUSA THE WARRIOR
I just saw this at the Seattle International Film Fest and it was jaw dropping.

Visually stunning, graphic violence that approaches gore, and maybe a glimpse of a Mifune for the 21st Century, only this guy carries a spear.
Five years of planning and production, a seven million dollar budget, and three hundred staff shooting over five months travelling ten thousand kilometres across the Chinese continent. It is unfortunate that these figures speak to me (and probably you) more than the names involved with the production of MUSA: The Warrior. This film is the result of an amazing creative process, with the time and effort invested clearly displayed on screen

Don't know if it will ever get wide distribution, but it should.
Here is the Korean site, excellent trailer to give you a taste
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| | | 115 | Mr. Snrub
ID: 18249190 Wed, Jun 04, 2003, 10:23
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oh wow, a plug for Musa the Warrior. Great movie, I couldn't believe how absolutely seamless the special effects were. In one scene near the end, I could have sworn they had to throw an actual spear through the actor's head to get the shot. Definitely worth a watch.
Here are some other movies that haven't gotten a mention yet that are IMO, must-see:
Donnie Darko
Amelie
Rushmore
Requiem For a Dream
Gattaca
...I don't know if I'd call the next three "must-see" but they're among my favorite comedies: Super Troopers
The Big Lebowski
Fear and Loathing In Las Vegas
Two others I've recently seen are Stalker and Solaris, both by Russian director Andrei Tarkovsky. The Steven Soderburgh/James Cameron remake of Solaris piqued my curiosity enough to look at Tarkovsky's stuff. Although sometimes a perfect solution for insomnia, Stalker and Solaris are just excellent. What Tarkovsky had to go through to simply make his movies AND get them past the Soviet censors is amazing. While filming Stalker, the first year's worth of shooting was ruined due to a mistake at the processing lab. Tarkovsky had to shoot the first half of the movie over again!
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| | | 116 | Myboyjack Leader
ID: 108231015 Wed, Jun 04, 2003, 10:52
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That's a new one for me Zen. I look for it. Maybe it will come to Lexington. Thanks for the info.
Shrub - you made it through Fear and Loathing.... Eeeeek. That was a rough one.
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| | | 117 | Mr. Snrub
ID: 18249190 Wed, Jun 04, 2003, 14:44
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MBJ- It's funny you mention that about F & L. A friend at work said it was the worst movie he had ever seen. A friend from school said it was the funniest movie he had ever seen. I can definitely understand how watching two hallucinating derelicts stumbling around Las Vegas would barely qualify as cinema :)
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| | | 118 | Myboyjack Dude
ID: 14826271 Mon, Jan 12, 2004, 20:27
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I've got two DVD's which are now duplicates for me due to better editions coming out recently. If someone on the boards would like them, I'd like to see them get some use - be happy to mail them.
They are:
Ikiru This is one of Akira Kurosawa's best; but has not received much attention in the states. I recently got the Criterion Collection edition that came out on 01/06/04. The copy I have to give away is a cheap Hong Kong edition that doesn't have the best subtitles or transfer, but was all that was available until last week.
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Casablanca I recently upgraded to the two disk DVD so this one's expendable/
Let me know via e-mail.
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| | | 119 | Seattle Zen Donor
ID: 55343019 Mon, Jan 12, 2004, 21:17
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I would love the Ikiru DVD, MBJ :)
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| | | 120 | Myboyjack Dude
ID: 14826271 Mon, Jan 12, 2004, 21:41
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Damn Zen. JKP beat you to it. :(
I think if you'd like he'll forward it to you though.
Do I still owe you from my trip out there? Maybe I should just send you a new one. I think everyone should have this movie, afterall. :)
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| | | 121 | beastiemiked
ID: 6117323 Mon, Jan 12, 2004, 21:58
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Watched Donnie Darko for the 2nd time the other night. I recall a thread about it but can't seem to locate it. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
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| | | 122 | James K Polk
ID: 51010719 Mon, Jan 12, 2004, 22:05
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Just sent you an email, SZ. I'd like to watch Ikiru once, but after that it's yours.
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| | | 123 | ksoze
ID: 1010161112 Mon, Jan 12, 2004, 22:51
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bmd, I think the thread you're thinking of is the Memento one, Donnie Darko is mentioned in there, I don't think the movie has a thread of it's own. For a good review of Donnie Darko, try this one.
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| | | 124 | Perm Dude Dude
ID: 30792616 Sun, Jan 25, 2004, 00:01
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Just finished watching the 1999 film Boondock Saints.
Excellent, excellent film. Never heard of it before heading over to Blockbuster with my brother, and he mentioned it.
The website linked, however, is flashy and mostly empty. The opposite of the movie, ironically.
pd
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| | | 125 | sarge33rrd
ID: 350572011 Sun, Jan 25, 2004, 08:24
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katie and I rented Costners OPEN RANGE the other day. Excellent movie with incredible cinematography and scenery. Figure we'll buy that one down the road sometime.
One of the "technical" things they did very "right" was that during for ex the major gun battle sequence, the gunfire is heard from what end of the room and then it echoes across the speakers to the far side of the room. First time I've really noted that detail in the audio. Reminded me somewhat of when I first bought a stereo vs my old phonograph when I was a kid. Had a Cheech and Chong album. Cheech's voice came from one speaker while Chong's came from the other. I remember thinking that was just SO cool. lol
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| | | 126 | Cosmo's Cod Piece
ID: 53439419 Sun, Jan 25, 2004, 09:30
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Good to hear Open Range was really good. IMHO, Costner hasn't made a decent flick in a while and I've stayed away from his more recent stuff. My favorite Costner movie is Field of Dreams with Tin Cup a close second.
If you really want to notice excellent audio in a film Sarge, watch Heat with Al Pacino and Robert DeNiro. Specifically the shoot 'em up scene that follows the bank robbery. I love turning the volume up on my surround sound system really high during that scene to exact some revenge on my neighbors for the times that they do the same thing.
Don't mean to ramble on, but that reminded me of a funny story. My neighbors upstairs (I own a condo on the first floor with cement ceilings and floors, but sometimes I can still hear my neighbors upstairs.) were switching from carpet to hard wood floor. They had absolutely no manners when this was going on. Work started at 6:30 am every day including Sunday and ended usually around 9 pm. One night they went on until about 2 in the morning. The next day I called the condo association to complain and they stopped. That day, I put on Terminator 2 and cranked the volume on that sucker and opened up my balcony window. I took great joy in hearing their 2 year old cry because I woke her up from a nap. At least that's what the father told me when we made our truce.
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| | | 127 | katietx
ID: 37002410 Sun, Jan 25, 2004, 10:52
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I would say if you enjoyed Dances With Wolves (which is BTW my fav Costner movie) you will enjoy Open Range. It has the same flavor although much more in the way of gun battles and blood. (Real guy flick-lol)
But in typical Costner style, the scenery is magnificent. Wish we had seen this on the big screen.
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| | | 128 | Cosmo's Cod Piece
ID: 53439419 Sun, Jan 25, 2004, 15:09
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Dances With Wolves was awesome. I really liked that flick.
Since we're on the subject of Westerns.....
Is it just me or is the current crop of Hollywood stars unable to match up to the likes of Eastwood, Ahnald, Stallone, DeNiro, Pacino, Ford, Hackman, Bruce Willis, Meryll Streep, Jodie Foster, Anthony Hopkins and I'm sure I'm leaving a few out.
With the Westerns, once Eastwood goes and Costner ages, that's pretty much it as far as quality Western people go. I've noticed lately that if you match up the old folks of acting that they clobber the snot out of the youngin's. There just don't seem to be enough quality actors and actresses to fill the holes.
I'm sure that Hollywood will push someone and forcibly create a new action star if they have to. The Rock is an example of that. IMHO, if you look at The Rock's first three movies (Cameo in Mummy Returns, Scorpion King and the one with Stiffler.) that he doesn't match up against Schwarzenegger. Yeah, in ticket sales, he beats him no doubt. I'm just speaking from a fans perspective though that Arnolds earlier stuff is way better than The Rocks so far.
I think Hollywood is ill equipped to replace all the acting talent that is aging and that they may soon loose.
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| | | 129 | sarge33rrd
ID: 350572011 Sun, Jan 25, 2004, 17:49
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oddly enough, katie and I had this conversation not that long ago. 10 yrs ago, a persosn could rattle off 5-8 names in "action adventure" genres. today? 3? Maybe?
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| | | 130 | kev
ID: 3155515 Sun, Jan 25, 2004, 22:53
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The Rock needs to do a comedy with kids....
Ahnold was nothing before he was a kindergarden teacher.
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| | | 131 | Mattinglyinthehall Leader
ID: 1629107 Mon, Jan 26, 2004, 09:54
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Yeah, in ticket sales, he beats him no doubt. I'm just speaking from a fans perspective though that Arnolds earlier stuff is way better than The Rocks so far.
What exactly was better? Arnold's acting? His accent? I guess he had bigger muscles than Rock has now so perhaps you are saying that that is the measure of a good action movie star? I watched Conan the Destroyer Saturday on the Sci-fi channel and I really can't say that I found anything impressive about Schwarzenegger's performance, aside from the size of his steriod-enhanced muscles. According to IMDB, Destroyer was his 8th film, so it's not like I'm talking about a guy who had no experience at that point in his career. Further, I also recently saw some of Commando, which was done a year later. Not good. Not good at all. Back then, the guy simply couldn't act.
I don't think I ever saw his next one, Raw Deal, but in his next few after that, Running Man and Preditor I believe he started to finally come into his own as an actor. I also never saw the film that followed those, Red Heat, so I would point to Twins (his 16th movie) as the turning point for Arnold as an actor.
I'm not trying to prop up the Rock as a great talent by any means, but to say that his work so far in his young acting career doesn't match up to Arnold's earlier work is simply no true. Through Arnold's first 10 films (a span of 16 years or so) the guy might have been the worst working actor in Hollywood, earning his living entirely off his notoriety and his physique. Whatever you think of Rock, I don't think that most who have seen his work would say that about him.
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ID: 560191911 Mon, Jan 26, 2004, 09:57
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What they both have in spades is the ability to glue you to the screen. Charisma, whatever you want to call it that is box office gold.
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ID: 1629107 Mon, Jan 26, 2004, 10:07
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Did Arnold really have Charisma back then? He certainly did by the time he was in Twins and I guess somewhat before then. I think Commando may have been the movie when he first started using some of his trademark quips. In one scene he breaks the neck of the badguy sitting next to him on a commercial airline. He pulls the guy's hat over his head and when the stewardess comes around asks him if his friend needs anything to drink, Arnold deadpans, "No thanks, he's dead tired".
But really, I think it was more the visual spectacle of this freakishly enormous man swinging a giant sword around or firing off thousands of heavy machine gun rounds that drew audiances in droves. Not his early charisma.
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ID: 2601988 Mon, Jan 26, 2004, 14:25
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He showed a lot of personality and charisma in pumping iron. He added a lot of humor to the film. I think the problem he had early in his career was that he tried to hard to act. Once he started taking roles that were more like himself and therefore didn't have to act as much he became much more likable.
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ID: 1629107 Mon, Jan 26, 2004, 14:32
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I never saw Pumping Iron and it wasn't listed at IMDP as among his acting credits. It was a documentary, right? So I don't think that really applies. No matter how you shake it out, as an actor, AS was severely lacking at best for a long time before coming into his own.
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ID: 441182916 Mon, Jan 26, 2004, 15:11
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I've soon most of his flicks, and you can keep them all except Conan the Barbarian and T1, where he simply rocked. I think because of his ambiguity regarding good and evil in the first, and his being straight evil in the second. He's such a wuss in all the other performances that I can't stand him. Let see how this latest gig in Cali turns out. It may be his best evil role yet.
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ID: 1629107 Mon, Jan 26, 2004, 15:17
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Good point, Bili, he was really good in T1, tho it was almost a role that was made for him (simple).
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ID: 51010719 Mon, Jan 26, 2004, 15:25
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I'll always have a soft spot for Kindergarten Cop. It's nahhht a tumah.
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ID: 108231015 Mon, Jan 26, 2004, 15:32
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If you haven't seen Pumping Iron, you're really missing out. Easily, Arnold's best performance (as himself, of course) and just fascinating viewing. Watch it. There's one line where Arnold tell's a reporter that "Milk is for babies.", that just kills me everytime. And, the psyche job he does on a bigger, stronger Lou Ferigno and his weird dad is just hilarious.
Arnold's great in T1. Conan's a classic and no one else could have pulled off that role. A few of his other movies (T2, Kinbdergarten Cop, Predator) are watchable entertainment - but geez, discussing the relative acting merits of Arnold is a bit beside the point, isn't it? He can't act, and doesn't pretend otherwise.
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ID: 1629107 Mon, Jan 26, 2004, 15:38
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Well, it stemmed from the statement I pasted in post 131. When you say Connan's a classic, I assume you mean Barbarian, which was twice the movie that Destroyer was. I have no idea why you think no one else could have pulled that off. Stick any other musclebound freak in that role and I don't see what he would be lacking from Arnold's performance, aside from the recognizability of Arnold Schwarzenegger.
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| | | 141 | Perm Dude Dude
ID: 30792616 Mon, Jan 26, 2004, 15:48
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So, what did you think of Boondock Saints, MBJ?
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ID: 108231015 Mon, Jan 26, 2004, 15:49
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Well, there were a lot of simlilar muscle bound freaks making simlular movies around that time. Arsnold can't act, but he did have a presence in that movie that made it (especially the first 2/3 of it) work. You're wrong about anybody with muscles being able to make that part work.
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ID: 108231015 Mon, Jan 26, 2004, 15:57
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I haven't seen it, PD, though I've heard good things about it and it's on my Amazon "recommendations" list, based on my past purchases.
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ID: 53439419 Mon, Jan 26, 2004, 18:37
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"What exactly was better? Arnold's acting? His accent? I guess he had bigger muscles than Rock has now so perhaps you are saying that that is the measure of a good action movie star?" - MITH #131
I think screen presence should account for something. In the three movies of The Rock's that I know of, he's never been the number one attraction to watch in the film. Even in The Scorpion King, Memnock(?, the bad guy, check spelling) was more impressive. Again, that's my opinion. I'm also perhaps biased because I was a semi-big fan of The Rock in his WWF days. I know the man can cut a mean arse promo so I was expecting a lot.
Do you think that fifteen years from now that people are going to be sitting around saying, "Wow, I can't believe The Rock had such a great screen presence in The Mummy Returns."?
Of course Arnold isn't known for his acting as evident by his dusty Oscar case. However, I'll take the Pepsi challenge with Arnold in T1 versus any of the stuff that The Rock has done or will do in the forseeable future.
The Rock is just one example also. Anybody see a replacement for Robert DeNiro on the horizon? How about Jack Nicholson?
And as far as muscle bound freaks not being able to act. That's entirely true for the most part. I don't know if I'd call him muscle bound, but you have to look at what Stallone did with the Rocky character.
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ID: 441182916 Mon, Jan 26, 2004, 18:51
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I think we'll have to see. I think Penn is a great actor. I used to have to see every Gary Oldman movie that came out, until he decided to become every absurd sci-fi baddy known to hollywood. Check them both out in State of Grace. Fantastic. Del Toro has potential, though I have to see him in a broader range of roles to get a better handle on his acting abilities. They are out there, I think.
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ID: 25919714 Mon, Jan 26, 2004, 18:52
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I thought that Oldman was great in Fifth Element.
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| | | 147 | Myboyjack Dude
ID: 14826271 Mon, Jan 26, 2004, 18:57
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Gary Oldham is great. Ed Norton has some really great performances under his belt.
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ID: 51010719 Mon, Jan 26, 2004, 19:00
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Brad Pitt has great screen presence. Not in the same style as Nicholson or DeNiro, but he could get to their level.
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ID: 14826271 Mon, Jan 26, 2004, 19:08
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I think he could be as good as Nicholson - I think that's not a bad comparison. Norton is more like DeNiro with his versatility and intensity.
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ID: 441182916 Mon, Jan 26, 2004, 19:09
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I loved Norton in Fight Club. I just rented the Italian Job last week though, and boy was I disapponted. I had such high hopes with that cast. The screenplay was just too painful. I think Pitt is good, but I haven't seen him really stretch yet, though is role in Snatch was fantastic! ;)
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ID: 51010719 Mon, Jan 26, 2004, 19:11
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bili, you've seen 12 Monkeys, right?
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ID: 14826271 Mon, Jan 26, 2004, 19:12
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Norton's performance in American History X was one of the best I've ever seen. Cut's him some slack in my book. He was great in Rounders too. Sort of a riff on DeNiro's character in Mean Streets
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ID: 441182916 Mon, Jan 26, 2004, 19:12
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Yeah - but it's been a while (saw it when it first came out), and I'm having trouble conjuring up Pitt's character in my mind.
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ID: 441182916 Mon, Jan 26, 2004, 19:17
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I haven't seen AHX. I think I'll have to head home and rent that and 12 monkeys tonight.
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| | | 155 | Myboyjack Dude
ID: 14826271 Mon, Jan 26, 2004, 19:30
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Defintely, rent X. A really good movie. Norton stealls the show though. He's both subtle and over-the-top. Uses little things to show his character evolving over time.
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ID: 217351118 Mon, Jan 26, 2004, 19:32
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Cosmo Stalone is a poor actor as well. A character like Rocky came naturally to him.
You wrote, "I think Hollywood is ill equipped to replace all the acting talent that is aging and that they may soon loose."
I disagree. Besides Ed Norton and Brad Pitt, how about Matt Damon, Ewan McGregor, Vince Vaughn, Johnny Depp and Binicio Del Toro, to name a few?
In the action genre, The Rock my have some potential and the only Vin Diesel film I've seen is Knockaround Guys, but I thought he was great. Also, there's Keanu Reeves, Will Smith and Ben Affleck. Perhaps you have a point that that group doesn't quite match up to Arnold, Stalone, Mel Gibson and Bruce Willis.
However, the return of the martial arts genre has brought in some new actors with varied talents that offer a whole different meaning to screen presence. There's Jet Lee, Chow Yun Fat and Jackie Chan.
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| | | 157 | Myboyjack Dude
ID: 14826271 Mon, Jan 26, 2004, 19:35
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Chow Yun Fat and Jackie Chan have been around longer than Arnold and Willis.
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ID: 217351118 Mon, Jan 26, 2004, 19:41
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MBJ Not in American threatres, though you have a point that they really be expected to carry the torch. I have to imagine there must be a crop of up and comers waiting inthe wings, though. I guess whether we see much of them depends on how long the genre remains trendy.
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ID: 51010719 Mon, Jan 26, 2004, 19:43
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Vin Diesel was good in Pitch Black, and I'm quite looking forward to Chronicles of Riddick.
Diesel was also great in Iron Giant :)
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ID: 37002410 Mon, Jan 26, 2004, 21:15
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Ah yes Vin Diesel. Yep.
DO NOT rent Once Upon a Time in Mexico Just finished watching it (14" of snow will push your limits on what to rent), and a very strange movie. Unusual cast, but they just didn't pull it off...way too gimicky.
AMX fantastic movie. Can't remember the Norton movie with Richard Gere, but also a character stretcher for Norton.
12 Monkeys was very good, as was Seven. Of course just about anything with Morgan Freeman is good. Samuel L. Jackson - ditto.
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| | | 161 | Perm Dude Dude
ID: 30792616 Mon, Jan 26, 2004, 23:34
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Agreed very much on Pitch Black--great movie just for VD.
Rented Seven Samauri yesterday for the week. Never saw it--it's about damn time I got around to it.
pd
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ID: 2601988 Wed, Mar 24, 2004, 17:26
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Went to see Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind starring Jim Carrey on Sunday. It was one of the best films I have ever seen. I won't spoil it for anyone because not knowing the plot will enhance the film, I know it did for me. Go see it as soon as possible.
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ID: 14815714 Fri, Mar 26, 2004, 02:22
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I saw Eternal Sunshine and the Spotless Mind and I loved it. I saw it based only on Peter Travers' praise. I realized how much better a movie can be if you don't know anything about it going in.
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ID: 46928248 Fri, Mar 26, 2004, 12:50
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Just bought Monty Python's Quest for the Holy Grail:SP ED today.Love the movie and can't wait to see the extra's. As far as DVD's go the Memento Sp ED is great, The Matrix is a must have,Gladiator, also the Fight CLub DVD has a lot of extra's and is a must own. One of the absolute best DVD's I have for special features is the True Romance:SP ED so many extra features like all the actors going through how they played their characters and alternate ending from Quentin Tarentino. When my girlfriend bought it for me I was surprised because I already had the normal version but it was well worth it. Jaws DVD has a lot of nice bonuses. I really want to get the Pulp Fiction SP ED as the original is lousy, some lousy trailers. Also want the Jackie Brown SP ED. The more I watch this movie the better it gets. People talk about Resevoir Dogs but I think Jackie Brown is better, haven't seen Kill Bill yet. I guess I'm drawn to DVD's that have a lot of extra features and bonuses, love special editions unless I have the orignal lol. Also want to buy the Usual Suspects:SP ED. Anyone else with suggestions of good dvd's. I like movies like Memento, Usual Suspects and good comedies.
On actors anything with Ed Norton in it gets a look from me. The movie with Richard Gere was boring for me(don't like courtroom dramas) but his performance was amazing. As it is in American History X, Fight Club and the Score. I also think Brad Pitt is a good actor Fight Club, 12 Monkeys, Seven, Snatch and Legends of the Fall.I also think Christian Slater is underated, but that's me. I know people will disagree with this but I also like Leonardo Dicaprio - Basketball Diaries, Gangs of New York even Titanic are good movies.
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ID: 53252259 Mon, Mar 29, 2004, 01:38
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Let me reiterate posts 162 & 163:
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind is outstanding. Amazing plot device. Just like BMD said, don't read anything about it, just go.
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ID: 53439419 Mon, Mar 29, 2004, 08:02
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I picked up the Alien Quadrilogy a little bit ago and that set is great. NINE DISKS! Disk One for each movie has the theatrical release and the Special Edition. Disk Two for each movie has bonus features. The last disk (#9) has an interview with Ridley Scott and DVD-ROM features. It also has an Alien Evolution documentary, but I haven't had time to watch that.
Back to my whole, "Who's gonna replace so and so routine."
I left out Tom Hanks. He's kind of an in-between guy that bridges the Nortons and Nicholsons. He could be the Patron Saint Of Acting after his career is over.
The actresses have the reverse situation than the actors do. Theron, Witherspoon, Hayek, Zelwiger, and Zeta-Jones are better actresses and could wind up much better than the previous generation of female actresses. Meryll Streeps shoes are pretty big to fill to say the least, but I can see Zelwiger taking her place over time.
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ID: 53252259 Mon, Apr 19, 2004, 11:08
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I just watched Swimming Pool by François Ozon and OH MY GOD!


This woman is a goddess and I was awed by her body in this movie in a way I haven't been in a long time. The movie has some great actors and a compelling plot, but I am not emabarrassed to say that you could watch her lying around or swimming naked for an hour and half leaving your life richer. American movies are afraid of such nakedness, not I :)
Thing is, Ludivine Sagnier is an actual actress and has been since she was a child (which wasn't that long ago). 27 movie and TV credits to her name going back to age 10. She was also in Ozon's previous hit, 8 Femmes or 8 Women, fully clothed.
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ID: 24914721 Mon, Apr 19, 2004, 11:52
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Did the plot involve her getting beat up?
I think it may have been the swimsuit that awed you, SZ. It's mesmerizing. Looks like an evil clown with a knowing grin.
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ID: 53252259 Mon, Apr 19, 2004, 12:00
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She is rarely in the suit.
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ID: 441182916 Wed, Apr 21, 2004, 13:30
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sweet.
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ID: 463571714 Wed, Apr 21, 2004, 22:17
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I will be very interested in what effect all the internet buzz does for this film. Cult following indeed, I watched this DVD over and over again. It's like a drug. Certain movies like this one, Twelve Monkeys, Princess Bride, just own me.
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ID: 463571714 Wed, Apr 21, 2004, 22:21
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I was referering to Darko... as John Denver said it, 'the lord and my wife wouldn't think it very good' if I was overindulging in Ludivine Sagnier's plum juicey goodness.
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ID: 53252259 Fri, Apr 23, 2004, 10:50
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I just went to Dogville yesterday and actually shook at the end of it. It is so extremely powerful, disturbing and unforgetable that I feel the need to talk about it with others who have seen it.
Could anyone post a link to a reasoned discussion of the movie in a blog or some message board? I really feel the need to unload.
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ID: 51010719 Fri, Apr 23, 2004, 14:55
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This might work for you, SZ.
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| | | 177 | Rendle
ID: 325343023 Thu, Jul 15, 2004, 02:21
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MBJ, how many DVDs do you have now?
I'm starting to collect now and I'm up to 115. My favorites are: American Beauty American History X Pulp Fiction Donnie Darko The Usual Suspects Memento Requiem for a Dream Reservoir Dogs A Clockwork Orange Mulholland Dr - just recnently bought, was very impressed, has anyone else seen this?
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ID: 53252259 Thu, Jul 15, 2004, 17:00
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Mulholland Drive is pure genius, absolutely loved it. It is hard to believe that Lynch orginally wrote it as a pilot for an ABC series much like Twin Peaks. Of course ABC is now filled with gutless corporate hacks who would have never shown it, or even Twin Peaks for that manner.
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ID: 53252259 Mon, Jul 26, 2004, 22:07
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MBJ Alert! Outstanding new Japanese samurai movie called Twilight Samurai is out. Just saw it yesterday and loved it. A great period piece with only two intense mano-a-mano sword fights. Strongly urge biliruben to check it out on the big screen.
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ID: 59641124 Tue, Jul 27, 2004, 10:23
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Hehe SZ, I do happen to have gone to the same school as Ludivine Sagnier when we were younger (approximately up until 14) and we did have several good friends in common. Quite funny to see her naked in about every movie she does now. I never liked her though.
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ID: 51010719 Tue, Jul 27, 2004, 17:23
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I've heard good things about Twilight Samurai -- will have to check it out. Have you seen Samurai Fiction? Just picked up a copy but haven't watched it yet. Also snagged Musa the Warrior, a Korean epic that has gotten good reviews.
Switching gears, and because there's quite a few posts in this thread mentioning Donnie Darko ... Salon has just published a very interesting guide to watching the movie: Everything you were afraid to ask about "Donnie Darko". Recommended reading.
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ID: 76471215 Tue, Jul 27, 2004, 17:36
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thanks for that article prez.
it is weird to read that the movie originally did only $500,000.
i admit i hadn't heard much of it when a friend suggested we see it. i found a preview online, and i KNEW i had to see it. i can't believe that we were one of a handful to have seen it in the theatres...
i became so obsessed with it, that i literally spend weeks straight on the movie's website, as it plays very much like a sequel/companion to the film - all the while presenting itself as quite the interactive game.
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ID: 53252259 Tue, Jul 27, 2004, 19:47
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I have to conclude that JCS is a female. What other films has she doffed her threads?
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ID: 59641124 Wed, Jul 28, 2004, 11:05
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Nope I'm a gentleman and didn't like her because of that usual b!tchy, "I'm a future star" attitude, but I do admit that she's got pretty good looks now, more than then. In "Gouttes d'Eau Sur Pierres Brulantes", she's, hum, not with clothes in about the whole movie. It's a remake from a Fassbinder movie IIRC, there probably is a DVD with English subtitles if you're interested. It has been deemed a pretty good movie around here, I personnally didn't really care for it.
Politics forum is getting pretty cool ;-)
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ID: 16727216 Sat, Aug 07, 2004, 22:32
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katie and I just rented and watched Butterfly Effect with Jason Kutcher. If you havent seen this movie, you are cheating yourself out of one outstanding storyline. Not gonna give it away, but it is well worth seeing.
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ID: 144192417 Sun, Aug 08, 2004, 12:52
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My wife and I picked up The Butterfly Effect and we both loved it.
I was very cynical at first because I felt the movie would be a cookie cutter teenie bopper piece of crud intended to sell a soundtrack and popcorn.
I was waiting for Kelso to emerge from Kutcher's performance, but he was quite good. In fact, I thought he was excellent as was the movie. One movie a great actor does not make, but he has oodles of potential.
The director's cut is worth watching as well.
I did get Donnie Darko as part of a Best Buy "3 for $20" deal and I loved it. Its definitely worth a rental.
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ID: 16727216 Sun, Aug 08, 2004, 12:57
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katie and I both were pleaseantly surprised by the quality of Kutchers performance in this one CCP. And we both felt that it was probably one of the more difficult roles for an actor, because of the very nature of the storyline.
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ID: 144192417 Sun, Aug 08, 2004, 14:29
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I never thought Kelso could produce a movie that could be called "thought provoking". Some of the best movies are the ones that make you discuss What If's?
I'm anxiously awaiting the release of The Passion on DVD to see what extras there are. I'm also really excited about the upcoming Aliens vs. Predator movie and I can't wait to see The Notebook with James Garner.
I heard some big news (for me at least) on the radio Friday. The first three seasons of Seinfeld are being released on DVD!!!
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ID: 16727216 Sun, Aug 08, 2004, 14:36
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this one was indeed thought provoking. We watched the Directors Cut version and when it was done, we discussed how logical and yet unforeseen by either of us, the ending turned out to be. Little hints had been dropped here and there throughout the movie, but we both failed to pick up on them. (I compare it to Usual Suspects in that vein.)
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ID: 441182916 Mon, Aug 09, 2004, 18:45
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I just stumbled upon a review of Rodger Dodger, (working back from a pic of Morena baccarin (wow) which made it sound like my kinda flick.
Has anyone seen it?
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ID: 144192417 Sat, Aug 14, 2004, 23:53
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Just returned from seeing Aliens vs. Predator at the drive in.
Oh baby did AVP stink. Bad. Real bad. Save yourselves and rent the DVD.
My evening would've been better spent eating dinner at my in-laws and having my mother-in-law ask for the 1,837,389th time as to when my wife and I are going to have kids.
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ID: 2343587 Sun, Aug 15, 2004, 00:01
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Kind of like Freddy v Jason, eh?
Can't wait for Passion to be released. I heard the extras will include some little featurettes:
"What If He Lived?" "Meet My Wife, Mary" "Original Name of the Apostles?: Ironically, 'Jews for Jesus'"
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ID: 144192417 Sun, Aug 15, 2004, 08:15
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PD: Alternate endings galore would just be too good to handle on The Passion DVD. Perhaps a trailer to the inevitable prequel? The movie kinda rules out a sequel (unless you want to make a ten minute short movie about the resurrection) so you can only bust out a prequel for more JC action.
"Jesus: The Teenage Years" - Turning water into wine had to come in handy with all those Jewish & Roman girls.
"How I Kept My Hair Blond"
"Playing Parents Against Each Other - Joseph vs. God"
I take my religion seriously, but even Catholics have to have fun once in a while.
AVP made Freddy vs. Jason look like Braveheart in terms of cinematic goodness. I'm not surprised that they made this movie to pander to idiots as opposed to trying to make a sci-fi classic, but this was grade F horse flop.
Back to topic....
Do any of you take advantage of the Best Buy deals on DVDs? They constantly have 2 for $15, or 3 for $20.
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ID: 51010719 Sun, Aug 15, 2004, 12:47
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I didn't have any problems with AvP. Thought it was a fun action flick with some cool visuals. That's all I was expecting.
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ID: 51010719 Sun, Aug 15, 2004, 12:48
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Napoleon Dynamite, though ... I just loved that film.
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| | | 196 | Rendle
ID: 325343023 Sun, Aug 15, 2004, 13:00
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I always try to take advantage of the Best Buy specials. This week I'm looking at getting The Game and Being John Malkovich for $15. There is also a Martin Scorsese box set featuring Goodfellas and Mean Streets which comes out Tuesday that I'm interested in.
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ID: 144192417 Sun, Aug 15, 2004, 15:22
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I'm looking at getting The Game and Fear. Have you seen Being John Malkovich? How is it?
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ID: 325343023 Sun, Aug 15, 2004, 16:38
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I've only seen it once and it's been awhile. It's a weird one but definitely entertaining. My favorite movies are the ones that are original like Memento, Donnie Darko, and Mulholland Drive. Nothing better than watching a movie and not knowing what to expect.
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ID: 144192417 Sun, Aug 15, 2004, 17:04
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I hear you. I remember watching From Dusk Till Dawn in the theater with my friend. We had no clue it would have Vampires and turn into the movie it did. We thought it was a simple bank robbery shoot 'em up. Boy were we wrong. I love great surprises like that.
Heat was much much better than I thought too when I originally saw it. I didn't think that movie would care about good character development. It made for a great flick.
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ID: 27251311 Mon, Aug 16, 2004, 10:31
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Hey guys I though I woudl send you this link for a MASS Buying of DVD's. You are not going ot be sure of what you are going to buy but you will plenty of movies to watch and I am sure once in a while you will hit a good one.
link
Or more of a mix for alot cheaper: More Variety
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| | | 201 | Rendle
ID: 325343023 Mon, Aug 16, 2004, 12:43
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No thanks. I've done something like that before and the crap I got was too embarassing to even show. DVD prices are lowering more and more every week, I rarely spend more than $10 for a DVD unless it's one I have to own.
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| | | 202 | Cosmo's Cod Piece
ID: 144192417 Sun, Sep 19, 2004, 17:21
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HEY LOOK HERE!!!
Anyone else stoked that Star Wars is coming out on DVD soon? Oooh baby!!!
I'm a tad disappointed that its only four disks, but I'll take what I can get.
Also, I picked up Clerks: X and as soon as the Mrs. and I move into our new place I'm firing up that baby.
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| | | 203 | biliruben
ID: 441182916 Mon, Sep 20, 2004, 16:36
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I've heard rumors that lucas has engaged in some revisionist "history" modifying the originals to better mesh with his Binksian attrocities.
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| | | 204 | James K Polk
ID: 51010719 Mon, Sep 20, 2004, 17:00
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Greedo shoots first.
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| | | 205 | nerveclinic
ID: 34757310 Tue, Sep 21, 2004, 04:13
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OK well I'm not going to list 50 movies.
Glad to see a few of my favorites were not listed here, although I have to ask Baldwin are you refering to the original "Wings of Desire"? If so I take back most of the bad things I have said about you lately as it's a brilliant movie.
A big favorite is City of Lost Children"
Trailor
Delicatessen by the same directors is also brilliant. Unfortunately no trailor.
A couple david Lynch movies, the obvious one is Blue Velvet, but the less obvious and more difficult to watch is Eraserhead.
trailor
For the ultimate 1984 film there's Brazil
trailor
More recently enjoyed Lost In Translation
Trailor
And on the flight home this weekend saw Supersize Me...Man you need to see this film if you eat fast foods or if you just want to see a great documnetry that's funny and smart.
trailor
And finally if for no other reason, a brilliant sound track by "Air" The Virgin Suicides, the second Sofia Coppella movie I've listed (Lost in Translation)
trailor
Nice range of genres for you...a couple toward the end are not necessasarily all time favorites, but interesting films that hadn't been listed.
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| | | 206 | nerveclinic
ID: 34757310 Tue, Sep 21, 2004, 04:54
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And lest I forget, the ultimate movie about the coming of the "New Age"
a really nice trailor
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| | | 207 | Boldwin
ID: 6853244 Fri, Sep 24, 2004, 07:13
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NPR's 'Fresh Air' discusses Donnie Darko.
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| | | 208 | beastiemiked
ID: 262411016 Wed, Oct 13, 2004, 18:50
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Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind is out on DVD. If you missed it at the theatres, go pick it up asap.
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ID: 46928248 Thu, Oct 14, 2004, 08:01
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Has anyone seen City of God, pretty enteratining movie done in a Pulp Fictionesque sort of way. I'm also stoked about the CLerks X dvd, only had the original on VHS. Also agree with the people above that The Butterfly Effect was a really good movie that made you think. That's the type of movies I enjoy. I went to the movies the other day with my wife and I wanted to go see The Forgotten but of course she had to watch Ladder 39. Uggh she always picks out the most uninteresting movies that have no twists or surprise. Not saying Ladder 39 was horrible but not something I wold suggest for people to go see, just reminded me of watching a season finale of say, Third Watch.
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ID: 439372011 Thu, Oct 14, 2004, 13:05
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My wife wants to see Lader 49, too. Stupid John Travolta. That's all it is.
"Ooooh, Travolta is in it! Let's go see it. Ooooooh."
The Forgotten looks good.
I saw City of God. That was a cool flick, and quite violent. The best part is when the kids rob the hotel, and the one guy busts in on the guy and 2 girls in bed. His line is so funny:
"Que puteria e issa?"
Literally: "What kind of a whorehouse is this?"
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| | | 211 | Rendle Donor
ID: 014815714 Thu, Oct 14, 2004, 13:35
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Already got Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind on DVD. Great, great movie. Anything written by Charlie Kaufman is damn good(Being John Malkovich, Adaptation). City of God was unbelievable. Having to read subtitles is a little annoying but it was worth it. Forgotten looks lame. Ladder 49 was average at best. I saw it with some girls and they were all bawling their eyes out throughout most of the movie. I'm looking forward to Team America: World Police which comes out tomorrow. It should be a pretty good satire.
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ID: 439372011 Thu, Oct 14, 2004, 13:48
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Oh yes! I forgot Team America. Anything those guys touch is hilarious to me. Did you ever see Baseketball? HIL Arious. And of course it was a stroke of comic genius making the South Park Movie a friekin' musical.
Just the other day I heard myself singing "What Would Brian Boytano do?"
And Mr. Mackey teaching the children not to swear in song was great, too. Who knew that "BICH" is Latin for "generosity"?
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ID: 42926116 Thu, Oct 14, 2004, 17:43
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See how interested I was ladder 39 /49 who cares. Team America looks hilarious and I'm ashamed to say I've never seen the Southpark movie.
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| | | 214 | Unemployed
ID: 7915138 Thu, Oct 14, 2004, 18:54
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Some films I haven't seen listed in this long thread. Paths of Glory and the Killing - 2 early excellent Kubrick films. Heck you can add a half dozen more from his works. Dark City, Gattaca, Manhunter, Razor's Edge (original version), Super Troopers, and Ed Norton's best performance in 25th Hour. I won't go down the path of Asian cinema and anime, but I have to throw Princess Mononoke on this list.
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| | | 215 | Myboyjack
ID: 06141920 Thu, Oct 14, 2004, 18:57
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The Killing is a really good movie - really wierd.
Princess Monoke rocks - very violent.
Someday I'm going to put together a list of the twenty best films to watch stoned. The Killing would be on my list. That whole last scene with the cash being blown away by the jet engine just kills me every time.
Good choices, Unemployed.
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| | | 216 | ukula
ID: 53934186 Mon, Oct 18, 2004, 08:43
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I saw Team America:World Police last night - F'n Hilarious. The best part was the Team America theme song.... The puppet sex scene had the whole theater in tears.... The confrontation between Hans Blix and Kim Jong II was funny as well. I'd definitely go see this one again.
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| | | 217 | Rendle
ID: 289321821 Wed, Oct 20, 2004, 19:05
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Here is a list of my dvds.
I'm at 151 right now. I can't wait til winter break starting right before Thanksgiving so I can buy more DVDs. I don't like to buy any now because my income is $0.
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| | | 219 | biliruben
ID: 441182916 Wed, Oct 27, 2004, 18:51
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Just thought I'd pass this along to piss someone off:
Ewok Version
Yub nub eee chop yub nub ah toe meet toe pee-chee keene g'noop dock fling oh ah Yah wah eee chop yah wah ah toe meet toe pee-chee keene g'noop dock fling oh ah Coatee chah tu yub nub coatee chah tu yahwah coatee chah tu glowah allay loo ta nuv Glowah eee chop glowah ya glowah pee chu nee foam ah toot dee awe goon daa Coatee cha tu goo (Yub nub!) coatee cha tu doo (Yahwah!) coatee cha tu too (Ya chaa!) allay loo ta nuv allay loo ta nuv allay loo ta nuv Glowah eee chop glowah ya glowah pee chu nee foam ah toot dee awe goon daa Allay loo ta nuv English Version
Freedom we got freedom and now that we can be free come on and celebrate Power we got power and now that we can be free it's time to celebrate Celebrate the freedom celebrate the power celebrate the glory celebrate the love Power we got power and now that we can be free it's time to celebrate Celebrate the light (freedom!) celebrate the night (power!) celebrate the fight (glory!) celebrate the love celebrate the love celebrate the love Glory we found glory the power showed us the light and now we all live free Celebrate the love
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| | | 220 | nerveclinic
ID: 88592016 Wed, Oct 27, 2004, 19:24
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I've never understood the concept of buying DVD's.
It costs 3.50 to rent one.
Once I have watched it I have no desire to see it a second time. If I do it will be years later and I can spend the 3.50 again but that would be a rare movie. There are so many movies why keep watching the same one over?
Collecting DVD's seems obsessive to me.
Of course I have 25 crates of records so who am I to talk.
nerve
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ID: 159322717 Wed, Oct 27, 2004, 19:44
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It's wierd, the longer it takes me to develop a top of the line entertainment system, the less I actually want to watch TV. Someday I'll have a dusty unused, but marvelous home theater.
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| | | 222 | Rendle Donor
ID: 014815714 Wed, Oct 27, 2004, 20:58
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At this point it's an addiction. I've bought one DVD in the last month and it's killing me.
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| | | 223 | Baldwin
ID: 79143117 Sun, Oct 31, 2004, 18:32
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Am I the only one blown away by the commercial morphing Clemens and Unit, done for Cingular/AT&T?
That sneer at the end is super. 8]
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ID: 014815714 Wed, Nov 10, 2004, 15:03
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Cool, that was a lot of Wookies.
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| | | 226 | nerveclinic
ID: 34757310 Mon, Jan 03, 2005, 23:37
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Just rented Hero last night. WOW.
Amazing martial arts choreography coupled with simply stunning cinematography that makes Hollywood flicks look like child's play in comparison.
All topped off with a great story and message.
Chinese name is Ying Xiong
TRAILOR
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| | | 227 | Seattle Zen
ID: 178161719 Mon, Jan 03, 2005, 23:45
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Funny, I saw "The House of Flying Daggers" over the weekend on the big screen and was less than enthusiastic afterwards (same director, Yimou, one of my all-time faves). Sure, stunning cinematography and fighting, but stupid, stupid story. I was afraid of that very thing with "Hero", which is why I avoided it. Seems I choose poorly.
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| | | 228 | nerveclinic
ID: 34757310 Tue, Jan 04, 2005, 00:03
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I thought the story for Hero was close to the quality of the fighting and cinematography, but that's me.
If it holds any weight International Movie database members (IMDB.com) rate Hero a 8.2 out of 10 a very high score #124 of all time.
House of Flying Daggers is only rated a 7.4.
Hero is also showing up on many critics top 20 lists (Not quite top 10) and in Village Voices annual poll of critics (Pretty large number of critics at least 50) it ranks 17. Not bad for a "martial arts film".
Of course the critics ranked House of flying daggers 19 so there goes that theory.
Of course Zen I might just be a dork and you'll hate the story...8-}
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| | | 229 | biliruben
ID: 599422311 Tue, Jan 04, 2005, 00:08
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I've heard "daggers" is just so-so, and "hero", which was supposedly a daggers warm-up, was much better. Hero arrives in my mailbox tomorrow, coinkidentally.
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ID: 41046317 Tue, Jan 04, 2005, 15:08
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Saw the trailer for Batman Begins before Ocean's 12 (eh) yesterday, and I was intrigued. I don't think I saw the last two Batmans, but with Chris Nolan (of Memento fame) directing and a cast of some of my personal favorites, as well as hearing that he took the entire cast to Bladerunner, and said "this is how we are going to film Batman," I have to admit I am intrigued.
I haven't seen the new Bruce, Christian Bale, since he was 13 in Empire of the Sun (which I really liked). Anyone seen his adult work?
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| | | 231 | beastiemiked
ID: 4310501610 Tue, Jan 04, 2005, 15:15
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Yes, he was very believable in portraying Patrick Bateman in American Psycho
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ID: 151035917 Wed, Jan 05, 2005, 20:02
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I'm a huge fan of Hero -- I thought there was plenty of interesting story there. Calligraphy storyline was great. So I've been very much looking forward to House of Flying Daggers, too. Hope I'm not as disappointed as Zen was.
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ID: 321145174 Wed, Jan 05, 2005, 21:24
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I wasn't. Thought it was better than fair. Visually interesting enough for me to enjoy it in spite of it's flaws. But Hero is the far superior flick.
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| | | 234 | Perm Dude Dude
ID: 030792616 Thu, Jan 06, 2005, 00:47
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Liked Hero quite a bit. Very well done visually and an original storyline. Zen, you should check it out.
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| | | 235 | nerveclinic
ID: 34757310 Thu, Jan 06, 2005, 01:49
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Whew, I'm not a dork after all...
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| | | 236 | Perm Dude Dude
ID: 030792616 Thu, Jan 06, 2005, 01:58
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Oh no, you're a dork all right. You're just not alone...
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ID: 51010719 Thu, Jan 06, 2005, 18:16
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Samurai Fiction, which I mentioned quite a while ago in this thread, is also quite good. It's not wuxia, but if you enjoyed Hero, etc., you'd probably like it.
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| | | 238 | TB Leader
ID: 031811922 Fri, Jan 07, 2005, 01:44
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I watched Hero tonight and agree with all that has been said. I like how the storyline unfolded and enjoyed the cinematography.
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ID: 711271021 Fri, Jan 07, 2005, 07:55
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Best movie for cinematography IMHO, Jeremiah Johnson with R Redford. OLD movie from the 70's IIRC. Best scene is shortly after Redford becomes a 19th century "mountain man" and is learning to hunt Griz. Old guy (cant recall the actors name) comes runnng into the cabin and dives out the back window. Redford is looking around with this WTF gaze? Griz comes crashing through the front door and the old guy hollers out, "skin that un pilgrim, and I'll get ya another one." lmao
How many here have seen Excalibur? That movie has THE definitive protrayal of Merlin. Little bit crazy, little bit eccentric...totally in control.
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| | | 240 | biliruben
ID: 599422311 Sat, Jan 08, 2005, 01:27
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Hero: awesome.
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| | | 241 | nerveclinic
ID: 34757310 Sun, Jan 09, 2005, 04:27
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At the National Society of Film Critics (news - web sites) awards Saturday.
Zhang Yimou received best director for "House of the Flying Daggers" and "Hero," martial arts dramas set in medieval China.
Yo
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ID: 178161719 Mon, Jan 17, 2005, 19:21
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I just finished watching Russian Ark and all I can say is "holy sh*t, that was fuc&in' amazing".
The movie is famous for a very good reason; this massive production of over 2,000 actors all shot in the Hermatage, was done all in ONE TAKE. One continuous shot, the longest shot ever made for a major motion picture.
No one seems sure exactly how many actors were involved in the making of The Russian Ark, somewhere around 2,000, with almost as many in the film crew. In any case, it’s a lot of people, a lot of costumes, and a lot of very tricky timing to have everybody set, ready, and waiting for the camera—and us—to arrive in each new part of the museum.
Technically—and quite extraordinarily—the massive take comes off without a hitch. Word is that seven months of rehearsal preceded the shoot, but that the filmmakers had full access to the museum only for one day to do it (rehearsals occurred piecemeal and off-site; there was no complete rehearsal at the Hermitage).
On appointed day, after a couple of false starts, cinematographer Tillman Büttner with his 77 pounds of trusty Steadicam (plus 10 assistants) successfully completed his 96-minute, 4000-foot walk into cinematic history. The take was recorded on digital video; no film camera can hold that much film; even the video was a problem, requiring the use of a very large external hard-drive that traveled along with the camera. [Nerd note: You’re proud of how big some of your media files are? When the camera was finally turned off, the resultant single file of uncompressed digital imagery came to—ready?—1 terabyte.] Quoted from a great review of the movie.
What a different—and brutally amateurish—film this would have been if the director had insisted on aural verisimilitude (to match the visual verisimilitude), using only the aural track that the camera mike had picked up. The effect would have been disastrous—the world’s longest, most expensive and completely unwatchable home video, full of extraneous sounds, distantly echoing voices, and no music to speak of. The silk purse that comes from this audio sow’s ear is that The Russian Ark, as realized, brings home the lesson as probably no other movie can of how absolutely and critically important the sound track is to what we think of as the cinematic experience. Movies are a visual art, but is it possible, I have to wonder after seeing The Russian Ark, that the true fundament, the ur-foundation on which the movie miracle rests, is aural, with the visual then layered immediately above? (ibid)
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| | | 243 | Myboyjack
ID: 121159118 Mon, Jan 17, 2005, 20:34
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Zen-I wasn't a big fan of Russian Ark, depite the amazing tour de force of directorial technique.
Here's Stanley Kaufman's take, with which I pretty much agree:
What is there intrinsically in the film that would grip us if it had been made, even excellently made,in the usual edited manner? If it were not one unbroken take, if we were not continuously mindful of its 96 minutes--what then?...... We sample a lot of scenes, that in themselves have no cumulation, no self-contained point ... Everything we see or hear engages us only as part of a directorial tour de force.
Anyway, glad you enjoyed it. I do have it on DVD, BTW
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| | | 244 | Seattle Zen
ID: 178161719 Mon, Jan 17, 2005, 21:42
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To me it was the best of Wim Wender's "Wings of Desire" coupled with everything "Dr. Zhivago" and "Nicholas & Alexandra" wanted to portray regarding the Tsars. It was subtle and a masterstroke of storytelling through image, music and imagination. I will watch it many more times and will search on-line for some other thoughtful pieces written about it. I'm still wrapping my mind around it right now.
A Story of Floating Weeds is on its way to me through the library. Gotta love Seattle. Thanks for the tip, I hadn't heard of that one.
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| | | 246 | Myboyjack
ID: 121159118 Mon, Feb 07, 2005, 21:38
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My two favorites are:
Tokyo Story Floating Weeds
Ozu is very Zen. His camera never (well once, in Tokyo Story) ever moves. There are always little icons in every shot (Look for the incense burning in the lower corner of almost every shot in Tokyo Story or the little splash of red in every shot in Floating Weeds.
Ozu is mos interested in shots for their own sake; he'll sacrifice continuity for asthetics a lot.
Tokyo Story is my favorite. It's just a great film, very compelling and touching parable abot he post-war breakdown of the traditional Japanese family.
Floating Weeds is a color remake of his own film, A Story of Floating Weeds, a silent black/white film from early in his career. I have both ad they're almost shot for shot the same. I always found it very Japanese that he'd remake the movie with such subtle changes.
I'll predict you'll like him more than Kurasawa; and them's strong words.
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ID: 121159118 Mon, Feb 07, 2005, 21:42
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Look's like if you're going to see Tokyo Story you gotta get a move on.
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ID: 241292815 Tue, Mar 01, 2005, 05:41
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Premature review...This is a popcorn-burner that burns popcorn mostly in fits and starts. Keanu Reeves is, surprisingly, okay as a dark tormented demon-fighter. When he has something to play against, such as the strong performances of Tilda Swinton (Gabriel) and Peter Stormare (Satan), he doesn't get in the way, and isn't completely ludicrous as the object of their anger. However, when battling CGI creatures or trying to generate chemistry with Rachel Weisz, he is less than successful. Clearly, he is trying to model himself on Clint Eastwood in this movie. He is trying for a darker, more cynical character, eschewing the naivete that has always marked his roles. But Clint Eastwood is beyond his range. You just gotta love that last line. 8]
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ID: 241292815 Tue, Mar 01, 2005, 05:46
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cont...What could work, if you were inclined that way, would be to set this up against a Mystery Science Theater 3K background. There are so many places ripe for skewering that, if you have some friends who love to chatter and complain, you could make an evening out of ripping this apart on DVD. Try to invite at least one catholic. - LOL
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ID: 234581910 Thu, Jun 09, 2005, 10:56
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The best documentary I've seen is now available on DVD.
Errol Morris' Gates of Heaven
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ID: 20537310 Thu, Jun 09, 2005, 12:20
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Watch the battle of Algiers this week-end. You have to take in consideration that it was financed by the winning side, ie. resistant/freedom fighters/terrorists but the end result is powerful case study of events that are still happening today.
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ID: 178161719 Fri, Jun 17, 2005, 10:54
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Me too. I was thinking more Life and Times of John Holmes but it ain't my test.
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ID: 531202411 Fri, Jun 17, 2005, 10:55
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lol
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ID: 234581910 Fri, Jun 17, 2005, 10:58
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Yeah that's about right:
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ID: 192301410 Fri, Jun 17, 2005, 11:05
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ID: 4310501610 Fri, Jun 17, 2005, 11:07
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ID: 014826271 Thu, Aug 25, 2005, 09:12
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Here's the movie not to miss this year
My main man, Werner Herzog! bili, I think this one has your sis' number all over it. Classic Herzog, - man devoured by his obsession - unfortunately in this case, quite literally.
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| | | 259 | biliruben
ID: 531202411 Thu, Aug 25, 2005, 11:35
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I read a review of that I while back. Will definitely see it at some point. Looks great.
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ID: 014826271 Tue, Jan 24, 2006, 21:02
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At 11:15 tonight, Turner Classic movies is showing a four hour version of Eric von Stroheim's lost masterpiece, Greed. I don't have time to remark about how good this truly Moving Picture is, but if you can check out some of it tonight you'll get an idea of what the cinema art form could have been if studios hadn't become so dominated by bean counters. The original director's cut, BTW, was nine hours long. Needless to say, von Striheim was big on details and realism.
Beuatiful picture, check it out if you can.
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| | | 261 | biliruben Leader
ID: 589301110 Thu, Jan 26, 2006, 13:53
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My wife bought me the (sadly only) season of Firefly for Christmas. We loved it so much, that she insisted we stretch it out as long as possible. We wrapped it up this weekend, and were finally able to sit down to Serenity last night. Wow.
Orson Scott Card reviews it well:
But here's how much the fans love this movie and want it to succeed. Some massively important things happen in this movie, things that are emotionally devastating, things that it would be almost unbearable to know about without telling.
Yet as far as I know, nobody has told. I walked into this movie reasonably aware of the advance word-of-mouth (though not obsessively so) and only as the film actually began this afternoon, the day of its premier, did it occur to me that I had not heard a whisper of a breath of the actual plot of the movie. All I heard was, "It's great, you'll love it."
Well, guess what.
It's great.
I'm not going to say it's the best science fiction movie, ever.
Oh, wait. Yes I am.
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ID: 589301110 Thu, Jan 26, 2006, 14:00
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Just banging around imdb ratings for Serenity, and noticed that women liked it even more than men. This is kind of wierd considering there are parts that are extremely graphically violent (I wouldn't recommend it for little Johnny). I did notice that my wife immediately gave it an unqualified "fantastic" at the credits, and I'm usually the one more gung-ho on these kind of flicks.
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ID: 199531715 Thu, Jan 26, 2006, 14:18
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But I laughed through the movie, so what does that make me?
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ID: 199531715 Thu, Jan 26, 2006, 14:20
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Loved Firefly, too, bili. What is it about well written or interesting shows (Arrested Development, Sports Nightand the recently raised from the dead Family Guy) that makes tv execs want to pull them?
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ID: 589301110 Thu, Jan 26, 2006, 14:26
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Dunno. Maybe they make more on advertising on dumb shows. Are dumb show audiences bigger consumers? Maybe.
Firefly actually had a grass-roots fan movement, browncoatsriseagain, that was trying to fan-fund another season.
They called it off, and I'd love to know the inside scoop of why. Any rumours?
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ID: 911541714 Thu, Jan 26, 2006, 17:28
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I haven't heard anything, although I am probably less of a fanboy than you where the show is concerned. I have to admit I was originally drawn in by (in no particular order) seeing Full Metal Jacket's Animal Mother do the same thing in space, Alan Tudyk (Wash) was a character - and a funny German one, no small feat - in 28 Days, a perennial fave of Ms. Sox, and oh-so-pixie-cute Kaylee.
It wasn't until I saw a few that I was really impressed. SciFi just ran a marathon in the last month or so.
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ID: 91152620 Thu, Jan 26, 2006, 17:45
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Very on-topic for this "OT" thread, Bubble is going "day-and-date", and if you don't know what "day-and-date" is, read this and decide for yourself, is this the end of movie theaters, or justice for agoraphobics?
The film, a minimalist murder mystery set in small-town Ohio, not only will open theatrically across the country on Landmark Theatres screens, it will be "simultaneously" available on both pay-per-view television and on DVD, a concept Hollywood calls "day-and-date."
Not at all interested in this movie, but I love to read about the decisions made by this wacky billion-dollar industry. I think there is a valid logic behind the time period between movie screenings and the DVD release.
There will always be a demand for the movie theater experience, particularly huge screens with great seats. The percentage of people stoned in the audience at the Cinerama here in Seattle on a Friday night is the same percentage of attendees of Hempfest. It's a community gathering place.
Furthermore, the studios had better hope that the hardware manufacturers get copy protection right with the next generation of DVD's. Failure to do so will cast them in the same doubt as the music industry.
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ID: 589301110 Thu, Jan 26, 2006, 18:10
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SciFi just ran a marathon in the last month or so.
Really? I'm surprised I missed the mention of it.
...oh-so-pixie-cute Kaylee
Did you know they made her gain 20 lbs for the role? She didn't do the same for the movie, I noticed.
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ID: 49626249 Thu, Jan 26, 2006, 19:05
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Apolcalypse Now, same as Beastiemiked.
Exactly where was the funny part of Schindler's List?
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ID: 199531715 Thu, Jan 26, 2006, 20:08
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Before you get your dander up, B, it's a Seinfeld reference.
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ID: 014826271 Sat, Feb 04, 2006, 09:08
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Grizzly Man, a documentary film by Werner Herzog, discussed in several posts above, will be on the Discovery Channel tonight at 8:00 pm EST. If you haven't seen it yet, here's your chance. I don't know how much the content will be edited - hopefully, not so much.
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ID: 3415339 Sat, Feb 04, 2006, 12:34
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"F* you Forest Service!"
Great flick.
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ID: 053272014 Sat, Feb 04, 2006, 12:53
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Maybe I should just go rent it to make sure I get the whole thing. I'd imagine it will have commercials too which will be annoying.
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ID: 480323118 Sat, Feb 04, 2006, 12:58
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from the link in 263;
Afraid I'd probably have to concur if I want to be honest about it.
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ID: 014826271 Sat, Feb 04, 2006, 12:58
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Maybe I should just go rent it to make sure I get the whole thing. I'd imagine it will have commercials too which will be annoying.
You should rent it for sure, if you haven't seen it; I'm afraid the TV version will lose a lot of its impact - dunno. It will definitely have commercials - the 3 hour time slot tells me that.
"F* you Forest Service!"
Rants like the one that included that line won't be the same if they bleep them out.
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ID: 46315247 Wed, May 17, 2006, 10:48
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I am SO stoked! For those of you who are fans of the Up Series, I am going to the US premier of 49 Up on June 4th!

I first heard of the series when 42 Up was released seven years ago. I didn't go, I wanted to see the first movies. I had a hell of a time finding the 7 Up at the video store, it wasn't until the Up Series box set was released that I watched them in secession. This appeals to the epidemiologist in me as well as that gossipy, inquistiviness in all of us that make reality shows possible.
Michael Apted interviewed a handful of English school children at age 7 with a simple premise: ask them about their hopes for the future, and then return every seven years to mark their progress. Fabulous incite into modern British society.
49 Up is opening at the Seattle International Film Festival. I think it will go nationwide in the winter. I can't express how eagerly I have awaited this.
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ID: 589301110 Wed, May 17, 2006, 11:38
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Watched the original Bad News Bears a couple weeks ago. I haven't bothered with the new one.
What a sweet movie.
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ID: 439372011 Wed, May 17, 2006, 11:44
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bili, what did you think of the Bad News Bears where they went to the Astrodome to play the Toros? That was actually the one I saw first growing up, so I always think of that one when I think of the BNB's.
"Let them play! Let them play!"
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ID: 589301110 Wed, May 17, 2006, 13:22
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Never saw that one, Motley. Was it a sequel?
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ID: 5131158 Thu, May 18, 2006, 17:20
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The one MC references is "Bad News Bears in Breaking Training" (a confusing title).
What's even more confusing about that movie- and even as a kid I knew better than this- was that in the big Astrodome game the Bears had runners on second and third (at least- the bases may have been loaded) and the second baseman for the Toros was holding the runner on like a first baseman would.
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ID: 439372011 Tue, May 23, 2006, 15:33
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Oh, how about when the Bears used the "hidden ball" trick to perfection, but no umpire called a balk on Carmine when it clearly was a balk, since he came set on the mound without the ball?
Thanks for the assist, C1-NRB. I looked up the film I was mentioning online after bili's virtual head-scratch, and decided I was too lazy to post the link!
God that Engleberg was a big boy!
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ID: 534492316 Wed, May 24, 2006, 14:50
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Dude, go Bollywood. I never thought I'd like them but man there are some great movies out there.
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ID: 46315247 Fri, Jun 16, 2006, 01:48
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Absolute must see - Harlan County USA.
This movie is fabulous. The intensity of the footage of this strike is so vivid you hardly believe it's not acting.
There is this part where a woman in her 70's is telling everyone to buck up, she was there back in the 30's when it was called "Bloody Harlan County", where the "gun thugs" were much more vicious. "You can't shoot the Union out of me!". This movie brought me to tears, it's that good.
I'd love to hear Madman get up at a Town Hall meeting in Harlan and make his famous, "What if my uncle wants to earn minimum wage as a greater at Wal-Mart? Why can't he be given the freedom to choose where he wants to work." He'd last twelve seconds.
Hoop Dreams with breasts, Seattle style.
It's not a DVD yet, but Heart of the Game is getting a Miramax release, so it may come to a theater in your town. It's a story about The Roosevelt High Lady Roughriders, a high school currently located one mile from my house. I hope it lives up to its hype.
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ID: 535193010 Tue, Jul 18, 2006, 11:02
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I'm halfway through the second season of Deadwood, and recommend it to anyone who thinks they have the stomach and ears for it.
Lots of gore and cussin', but well worth it.
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ID: 18301915 Tue, Jul 18, 2006, 11:39
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Deadwood is awesome. So much better than the Sopranos these days. Jane and Swearenger are two of the best characters of all time.
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ID: 589301110 Tue, Jul 18, 2006, 13:01
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So many great characters. Doc is pretty sweet as well. I wouldn't have believed I could have ever thought of him as anything other than Wormtongue, but this character eclipses that.
I agree Al and Jane are the cream, though. Al's Shakespearean soliliquies showing the depth of his knowledge of human nature are magnificent.
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ID: 46315247 Mon, Aug 07, 2006, 13:08
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I just saw Land of Plenty, a great new release by Wim Wenders. America's polar extremes are personified in this movie, done without the overwrought excesses of Lars Van Trier. John Diehl plays a rabid, right-wing radio, Minutemen-like nutjob very well. Representing the other pole is a young, idealistic Christian missionary.
In my mind, this will end up being the best example of the prevailing European view of America this decade. Furthermore, with all of the great exposure, Trona, CA will never be the same.
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ID: 49112418 Fri, Jul 06, 2007, 13:37
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Time to rehash this old thread.
I recently saw some great films on DVD. I really enjoyed The Prestige, Newmarket sure can pick a winner, Coldwater. Christian Bale dominates this film, I really respect his work, he is so very intense. He really outshines Hugh Jackman.
Later I saw Hugh and Scarlett Johansson in Scoop, Woody Allen's latest. I admit to being a Woody fan. He had struggled for quite some time, Celebrity, Deconstructing Harry and Everyone says I Love You all stunk, but Sweet and Lowdown, and Small Time Crooks were a nice rebound. Woody was in fine form in Scoop, "... I was born into the Hebrew tribe, but later in life I became a follower of a Narcisism". Okay, maybe it's an aquired taste.
The best movie I've seen recently is Notes on a Scandal. Dame Judy Densch is in my mind right now the world's greatest actor, bar none. She portrays such an ugly persona in this picture and unlike any aging actress out of Hollywood, she allows herself to be filmed looking really, really ugly. The movie is very intense, Cate Blanchette is fabulous, I can't recommend this film highly enough.

I know MBJ will be excited for this movie's release. Werner Herzog is back with another epic in filmmaking difficulty. Here is an outstanding article from The New Yorker that has me extremely eager to see this movie. If you are not familiar with Herzog and his mania, please read that story, he is a genuis and we should all be grateful for his unique insanity for it creates masterpieces.
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ID: 1660610 Fri, Jul 06, 2007, 13:40
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Zen, have you seen The Hunting of the President? I just came across that website yesterday.
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ID: 8216923 Fri, Jul 06, 2007, 13:50
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Nice Zen. I'm both excited and a little skeptical about Herzog working in the Hollywood system he's always loathed. Most of his grear films were made using the same single camera he stole from the German film school he dropped out of in the '60s. A Hollywood crew and budget? Hope we get the same Herzog.
I highly recommend Little Dieter Needs to Fly, the Herzog documentary the this new film is based.
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ID: 49112418 Fri, Jul 06, 2007, 14:02
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Just added The Hunting of the President and Little Dieter Needs to Fly to my Queue. Thanks.
MBJ, if you haven't yet, read that article I linked above. Few directors can survive the meatgrinder that is the Hollywood machine... I think Werner is one.
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ID: 75112114 Fri, Jul 06, 2007, 14:43
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Yeah, I saw Notes when it came out at the Angelika...a little fatal attraction-esque, but intense and just superb acting. Densch was not the lead though and Blanchett was not supporting...the Academy got their nominations reversed, but whatever.
I also want to see Rescue Dawn. Werner Herzog did the documentary about this Dieter pilot ten years ago...he makes good films. It is supposed to be very intense, with some major disturbing scenes of imprisonment and inhumanity. Bale is a force...he was great in The Machinist. He loves the roles that immerse, and require him to lose half his weight.
- walk
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ID: 3533298 Fri, Jul 06, 2007, 14:54
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have you seen The Hunting of the President? I just came across that website yesterday.
man. i just watched that preview. how positively chilling. i really want to see this now.
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ID: 1660610 Fri, Jul 06, 2007, 15:16
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Yeah, the fact that the trailer ends with Susan McDougal, who was under tremendous pressure to lie about Clinton, is very interesting. Some of these people were much more interested in hurting Clinton than in finding the truth.
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ID: 49112418 Mon, Jul 23, 2007, 11:57
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I saw Sicko over the weekend and I really, really liked it, easily Michael Moore's best film. I am a Moore fan, but truth be told, he is just a good filmmaker, not a great one. In my mind, this topic is the least controversial one he's tackled, I mean, other than HMO and Drug company lobbyists, who here thinks that America's health care has no flaws? The stories Moore relates rip your heart out and shreds it to pieces. It sure is nice that there is a small theater pub in town that is showing it. Living in the boonies is the death of quality moviegoing.
Re post 277 - Did anyone catch the Simpsons last night? The 9:00pm episode was a spoof of the Up Series and was pretty damn funny.
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ID: 86541617 Wed, Sep 05, 2007, 01:46
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The Lives of Others was simply outstanding, I can't recommend it enough.
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ID: 529121611 Sun, Feb 17, 2008, 16:00
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I finally got around to seeing Inland Empire, David Lynch's 2006 movie. I am a big Lynch fan, have been since Blue Velvet.
First, I wish I had seen this on the big screen. Whatever you think of the film, you cannot deny that it is intense and its intensity was meant to be seen in a theater.
I put this into the DVD player last night around 9:30pm, which is late for my wife and I. I had no idea the thing was 3 hours long. The movie had a linear feel with a explainable plot for the first hour. Then things, ah, fall apart. My wife went to bed two hours in. I was committed.
How would I describe this movie? Well, when we woke up this morning, I told my wife, "I'd like to tell you how the movie ended, but I couldn't pretend to describe the last hour." If I were to guess, I say 90% of the American viewing public would hate this movie. Make the whole state of Iowa watch this movie and fully half of them would get up and leave about half way through.
Wereas Mulholland Drive could be compared to a late cubist Picaso, Inland Empire is a Jackson Pollock.
This movie starts in Hollywood and ends up on the island of Alexander Sokurov, a bizarre place, trust me. I cannot think of another major feature film put out by a studio that is anywhere as strange as this.
Laura Dern has more faces of "confusion" than Inuit have names for snow.
I'll watch this movie again some day, after my brain heals up. I'm curious what others thought of it and if this movie will be a part of film classes in colleges for years to come or panned by academia.
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ID: 251113917 Mon, Feb 18, 2008, 19:17
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SZ - I am a big fan of David Lynch movies but this one just flat out sucked !! I made it through the whole thing hoping that at some point it would 'come together'. I felt I really wasted 3 hrs with this one.
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ID: 529121611 Mon, Feb 18, 2008, 21:08
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I don't think you are alone feeling that way, WiddleAvi. Imagine what a non-Lynch fan would think of that flick.
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ID: 29241823 Sat, Apr 19, 2008, 11:21
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I just watched two outstanding documentaries by Louis Malle about the United States called God's Country and And the Pursuit of Happiness.
God's Country really spoke to me because it was filmed a mere 40 miles west of my childhood home in 1979. In the 70's, I lived on the western edge of the Twin Cities, everything further west was exactly like Glencoe, the town in which this film is set.
I think may of us would suspect that a famous Parisian avantguard film maker, the son of nobility, could not make this film without being condescending. Malle succeeds here, though. You'll have to see it yourself.
85% of the film was shot in 1979, the last part is six years later. The Reagan years were not good for family farms.
And the Pursuit of Happiness is about immigrants to America. Malle, who married Candace Bergan, became an American citizen and decided to document the lives of recent immigrants around the US.
Watching this movie, it is truly amazing how little has changed regarding the "immigration issue". This film could have been shot in 2007, word for word. There is talk of building a fence along the border, Arabs saying that terrorism in the MidEast causes them to be discriminated, it goes on and on. This film was shot in 1985-86. You've got to see this, I can't say how eerie it is to see an issue - immigration - that has reappeared in exactly the same way 22 years later.
If you remember what happened in response to the immigration issue in 1985-86, the Republican in the White House, towards the end of his second term, initiated and passed an Amnesty program that basically put immigration issue to bed for well over a decade. Wouldn't be surprised to see that happen again.
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ID: 29241823 Sat, Apr 19, 2008, 23:21
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Those two movies are in the new Malle box set

The Documentaries of Louis Malle
There are five other movies in the box set. I am looking forward to the others.
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ID: 463471413 Sat, Apr 19, 2008, 23:57
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SZ
Hilarious review of Inland Empire. Let's just call that his 'Hey, I got these bills to pay and I'm a few too many years removed from a hit, I know, I can cobble this stuff together' phase.
'More confused looks than Inuits have words for snow'...ROFL...tell me you came up with that line on your own.
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ID: 29241823 Sun, Apr 20, 2008, 01:32
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tell me you came up with that line on your own.
Yeah, that's mine. Glad to make you smile. :)
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ID: 49112418 Tue, May 27, 2008, 17:26
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Sad day yesterday with the passing of Sidney Pollock. The wife and I decided to watch Michael Clayton just as I was browsing the Web, I saw his obit. Didn't realize he played the senior partner in the movie. It was also eerie to hear him say, "we need to get rid of this cancer." He looked great, you would never guess he was 73. I don't think he knew he had cancer when he filmed the movie. I have always thought he was one of the best acting directors ever.
As for the movie, I generally really dislike attorney or court room movies, but this one was great. George Clooney was outstanding, the plot had a ton of twists, all very well done, nothing stupid. Great flick.
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ID: 49112418 Tue, Sep 23, 2008, 13:20
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If you are wondering what is taking up all of Baldwin's bandwidth, it's this FREE download of Michael Moore's newest flick - Slacker Uprising!

He'll be reading Michael's 2008 Election guide in the meantime, so we might not get as many updates about deathcare hospitals in Florida.

read more...
"Slacker Uprising" takes place in the wake of "Fahrenheit 9/11," during the run-up to the 2004 election, as I traveled for 42 days across America, visiting 62 cities in a failed attempt to remove George W. Bush from office. My goal was to help turn out a record number of young voters and others who had never voted before. (That part was a success. Young adults voted in greater numbers than in any election since 18-year-olds were given the right to vote. And the youth vote was the only age group that John Kerry won.) What I encountered during the tour and the filming was both inspiring and frightening, so I thought, hey, this might make for a funny and enlightening movie! Each night, thousands would show up to volunteer in the Slacker Army against Bush. This drove local Republicans nuts. In one state they tried to have me arrested. At two colleges, rich donors offered to donate more money to the college if they would ban me from campus. Nearly a half-dozen universities kept the Slacker Uprising tour off their campuses. But there was no stopping this movement. By the time we got to Florida, 16,000 people a night were showing up.
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ID: 49112418 Wed, Oct 08, 2008, 17:36
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The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford was outstanding. It had some excellent performances and Mr. Affleck deserved his Oscar nomination.
This is the kind of Western that I love: deeply philosophical, outstanding cinematography - and by that I don't mean beautiful shots of Monument Valley, I mean every shot - and a heavy dose of realism. There are so many great films being made today, it really makes me happy.
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ID: 49112418 Fri, Oct 17, 2008, 14:43
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I just watched Mongol and it was outstanding! It's the first of a trilogy on the life of Genghis Khan by Sergei Bodrov.
I read Genghis Khan and the Making of the Modern World a few years ago and I was amazed at how little I knew about the 1200's, in which the Mongols came to rule the world. The story is remarkable, mind blowing really, when you think of such a tiny clan of people creating a huge empire. The first movie of the trilogy is the amazing story of the Khan's numerous times cheating death and rise to power. Truly, you should read the book, then watch the movie.
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ID: 13714198 Fri, Oct 17, 2008, 15:19
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i was just reading how Mongol has some nice little historical inaccuracies going for it.
from Yahoo...
...Sergei Bodrov's "Mongol" does have its fair share of problems. The biggest one being that Khan is seen to be a dedicated and devoted husband to his wife Borte. And though his first wife was indeed an important figure in his life, he was hardly a paragon of monogamous virtue: According to an article in "The American Journal of Human Genetics," roughly 8% of all men in Asia are descendants from Khan.
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ID: 49112418 Fri, Oct 17, 2008, 16:06
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I'd hardly call that a "historical inaccuracy". First, the life of Genghis Khan is "legendary", much of what we know is questionable. This is a retelling of these legends. Second, I have serious doubts about some offhand reference to some uncited journal article. The movie never implied the Khan was monogamous, just crazy about Borte, nor did the movie cover the age when he was a great ruler and perhaps impregnated other women.
I was surprised Bodrov choose to skip the story of him killing his half brother, which is featured heavily in the book I mentioned.
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ID: 501202711 Sat, Feb 28, 2009, 01:37
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I just finished watching God on Trial and I must tell you that it is awesome, unbelievably intense.

This is Sir Anthony Sher who makes the penultimate argument after sitting silent for the first 80% of the movie. I won't tell you anything about what happens, but let me assure you that this is a deep, philosophical and religious discussion set in one of our bleakest settings of modern times. You will not fail to be moved.
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ID: 9123198 Sat, Feb 28, 2009, 11:49
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Would you be equally interested in hearing God's defense?
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ID: 131402810 Sat, Feb 28, 2009, 11:58
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Would you be equally interested in hearing God's defense?
Have you seen God on Trial, Baldwin? God was given a defense, very well reasoned and argued. I really think you would be intrigued by this piece, there is a lot of scripture as evidence, you will get a doctrinal workout.
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ID: 9123198 Sat, Feb 28, 2009, 12:27
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I've already listened to a portion on youtube. I expect to watch it all that way. Defending God is easy when you understand the plan he set in motion as soon as mankind declared themselves independent from his program.
It is no more difficult than defending the father of the prodigal son.
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ID: 571114225 Sat, Feb 28, 2009, 14:16
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I'll be seeing this but I find it interesting that the movie is about putting God On Trial during times of unimaginable suffering.
If only they knew the story of Job they would realize there are rewards for staying faithful during dark hours.
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ID: 37838313 Sat, Feb 28, 2009, 14:55
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I never understood why the book of Job is seen as a comforting message for people experiencing hardship.
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ID: 581202816 Sat, Feb 28, 2009, 18:31
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It assures us that...- God is not the source of suffering - Job 1:8-12
- a universal issue must be settled before a just and righteous order can be restored - Job 1:8-12
- the effects of the present anarchy will be undone and healed even including the dead being resurrected - Job 14:13-15
- God appointed a solution early on [immediately] after his plans were detoured by the rebellion - Job 19:25
- God will remember and reward those who maintain loyal integrity despite enduring evil and suffering.
- God is impartial - Job 34:19
- The righteous will inherit the wealth amassed by the wicked - Job 27:16, 17
- God has confidence and trust in his faithful servants even tho they are imperfect
- God will eventually entirely remove abusive human government - Job 12:23
A partial list.
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ID: 123442611 Sun, Apr 26, 2009, 13:51
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It was Oscar night here as I had the house to myself, so I watched Slumdog Millionaire and The Wrestler. I don't know which slum was worse.
There was depravity, the crass underbelly of of a society that doesn't care one whit about its untouchables.
Then there was Mumbai.
I was prepared for the teen novel cheese serving as a plot of Slumdog, but I wasn't prepared for how outstanding the acting was, particularly by the children. I loved the soundtrack, I loved the cinematography, I liked the plot devices.
What I really wanted to see happen was the police chief look around his office and see little clues the kid used in his story everywhere, then have the kid go from a limp into a perfect walk and have Peter Postlewaite pick him up :)
Perhaps you have heard that Slumdog Millionaire has caused quite an uproar of disapproval in India and my response is "good!". Indian society does not like to have an honest mirror thrown in their face. Trying my best not to sound cliche, this was a cultural milestone both in India and here in the US. This was the first widely released movie in the US with an entire Indian cast (not caste!) and it won an Oscar! Here's to hoping that we see many more Indian actors in standard US movies.
And, how could you not LOVE the Bollywood dance piece at the end. Michael/Janet Jackson dance choreography is alive and well in Mumbai. Do we have to start calling it Mullywood?
The Wrestler featured Marisa Torme's unbelievably hot naked body, oh, and Mickey Rourke's roided, leather tanned carcass as well. Rourke does a great job of expressing a constant aching pain, he is certainly not afraid of looking ugly for it seemed they highlighted his botched, hamfisted face lifts rather than hide them.
It's funny, Darren Aronofsky's Pi has my favorite soundtrack of all time, bar none. This soundtrack may very well be the worst, but it is perfect for the movie. Just like the action with all the disgusting blood, hearing Poison and Quiet Riot is supposed to be like fingernails on a chalkboard. "Kurt Cobain, that pussy, had to come along an ruin it"!
I was expecting just a little bit more from Rourke's performance as everyone was so gaga over it. This role was the role of Rourke's lifetime, but the star of this movie is Darren Aronofsky, the extremely talented director. The question you have after watching this movie is "WTF is wrong with these people!" and by "these people" I mean the fans. What the hell? It's like watching human dog fighting where the dogs whisper into each others ears about what move is coming next. MITH and Tree, what's wrong with you guys!
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ID: 05047110 Sun, Apr 26, 2009, 14:23
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I really enjoyed Slumdog also, and yes what a brilliant feel good dance ending.
Perhaps you have heard that Slumdog Millionaire has caused quite an uproar of disapproval in India and my response is "good!".
Well my perspective is that, that is, at best, not even half true.
Indians are by far the majority population here in Dubai so I read story after story about this.
More then half of India LOVED the movie, embraced the movie, proudly declared it their own with Indian actors, music and Mumbai as the background.
The people that didn't like it was generally the slum dwellers themselves who likely never saw the movie, they just hated the title, "Slum DOG" as they felt that referred to them, they were being called "dog".
Dog is a big insult in India.
There were parties all over India for the Oscars, and there was lots of very proud Indian press in Dubai raving about the movie and "India's" great achievement... even though it was a British film.
Indian society does not like to have an honest mirror thrown in their face.
Not sure where this comes from, maybe you read an article I didn't, but all the "criticisms" of the movie that I read anyway, were for reasons other then this.
The biggest criticisms were the title, and the way the slum dwellers felt they were being portrayed.
Of course it's very possible you've read some things there in the American press I haven't.
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ID: 123442611 Sun, Apr 26, 2009, 15:19
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Indian society does not like to have an honest mirror thrown in their face.
This was a quote from a friend from the subcontinent.
I, too, had read that people were very unhappy with the word "dog" in the title. I also believe that many, many fundamentalist Hindus who hate pretty much anything on film were making their angry selves well known. I'm glad that cosmopolitan Indians, the type who emigrate to places like the US and Dubai, were proud of the movie.
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ID: 41323216 Sun, Apr 26, 2009, 17:52
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Slumdog was well received in India for the most part. There were objections to the name. The larger worry was that Westerners would perceive India the wrong way, which is to say that they worried that the horrid conditions depicted in the move were wide spread. While present to some degree in some form another, it is not the norm and certainly not everywhere. But saying India does not like to have an honest mirror thrown in its face is erroneous. Why would they object to something they experience in some way or another everyday?
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ID: 1410391215 Fri, May 07, 2010, 13:33
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A movie about my all-time favorite director, starring Daniel Day Lewis, featuring Dame Judy Dench, Nicole Kidman, Kate Hudson and a scantily clad Penelope Anne Cruz, what could possible go wrong? Well, they could start SINGING!
Nine was absolutely AWFUL.
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ID: 248472317 Fri, May 07, 2010, 14:02
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SZ - i loved 9, just because it was so unintentionally awful. i went in expecting to hate it, so that's probably why i enjoyed it.
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ID: 54457712 Fri, May 07, 2010, 14:08
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My friend from India did not like the way it was depicted, but thats just one opinion. And I guess if thats the way it really is then whatever. But I don't really know cause I am not there to get that opinion. I do know after last weekend to not leave the Inner Harbor in Baltimore so I can say The Wire accurately is accurate lol... I thought you meant "9" the animated movie with John c Reilly and Elijah Wood produced by Tim Burton also out last year. I enjoyed that.
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ID: 055343019 Sun, Jun 20, 2010, 23:47
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I just watched the best movie of 2009 - Revanche, an Austrian flick with some hot sex and "adult situations". Just watch it!
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ID: 5510572522 Sun, Aug 15, 2010, 23:45
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Just watched The Hangover with my wife. Laugh out loud funny throughout most of it. Maybe a little too over-the-top for some, but it was well done.
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ID: 055343019 Sun, Aug 15, 2010, 23:50
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I thought The Hangover was outstanding. And you know who I thought had the best performance... Mike Tyson, he was great! His reaction when the guys explained why they had a police car, priceless!
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ID: 055343019 Tue, Oct 05, 2010, 11:10
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Oy, I watched A Serious Man last night, the Coen Brother's latest, and it was pretty good. It's the type of movie that we would be inundated with if Jews ran Hollywood. Thank Hashem that will never happen!
It's somewhat autobiographical as the Coens grew up in Minnesota and it is set at the time of their youth. You learn that marijuana enhances your ability to recite Hebrew. Like any good Jewish/Old Testament fable, it's a head scratcher at times. I enjoyed it.
Next up - Herzog's latest My Son, My Son, What Have Ye Done
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| | | 332 | Seattle Zen
ID: 10732616 Tue, Nov 08, 2011, 14:22
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This thread is long overdue for a bump. My Son, My Son... More like, My God, My God, WTF Herzog? That was HORRIBLE! Couldn't finish it.
It dawned on me that 56 UP should be released in 2012. Damn, time flies!
I can't say that 2011 was a great movie year for me, looking at my Netflix history it seems my 5 year old has been quite influential on what movies have been arriving by mail. The past two years I have watched somewhere around 15 Woody Allen movies with my 18 year old, that has been great. We have also seen quite a few Zhang Yimou titles. I want to introduce her to Federico Fellini next.
I just recently watched Biutiful, the Alejandro González Ińárritu feature staring Javier Bardem. Extremely powerful and depressing, be warned. I also really enjoyed The Princess of Montpensier, a French period piece, late 16th century, just an excellent movie.
If you want to know why Greece is so f'ed up, this might shed some light:

This movie was a foreign movie Oscar nominated feature. My sister recommended I watch it, and after you watch it, you will realize how skin crawling that really is. I have not seen anything like this before, it will stay with you for a while.
If you want to watch an excellent dock-mockumentary, you really ought to check out Exit Through the Gift Shop, it has more layers than an onion. Plus, I happen to love Banksey and other featured street artists.
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| | | 333 | sarge33rd
ID: 31011813 Tue, Nov 08, 2011, 14:40
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not a comment on a movie, but rather on the whole home movie "thing". 1st, was Beta vs VCR. Then CD, DVD and the Hi-Def vs Blu-Ray.
Can we just stop already at Blu-Ray? I dont wanna have to replace my entire library every 4 or so years because the old player wore out and they dont make that format player anymore.
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| | | 334 | weykool
ID: 28102713 Tue, Nov 08, 2011, 14:55
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The next player will be a device that you have implanted in your tooth and you merely DL movies over the 10G network straight to your brain. Sarge, does your 8-track player still work?
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ID: 381040814 Tue, Nov 08, 2011, 15:40
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lol last one of those I had, quit when my son 'fed' it.
He was 2 or 3 at the time, and had apparently overheard me complain that the damn thing had "eaten" another of my tapes. I came home from work and found the 8-track stuffed full of spaghettios. :( Wife said, "Now, before you go off...Al shared his lunch with your 8-track so it wouldnt be hungry anymore and wouldnt eat your tapes".
*sigh*
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ID: 36452617 Tue, Nov 08, 2011, 16:32
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Zen - Agree with you on My Son, my son..... It was slop. And you know it pains me to say that about my boy, Werner.
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ID: 358252515 Tue, Nov 08, 2011, 16:44
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Exit through the giftshop was good, but it sure was a bit hard for me to discern doc from moc. Banksy came out looking too good, so I assume it was more moc.
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ID: 10732616 Tue, Nov 08, 2011, 17:39
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but it sure was a bit hard for me to discern doc from moc
That was the genius of the movie. Actually, the best way to describe the movie was a piece of Banksey guerrilla art itself.
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| | | 339 | Seattle Zen
ID: 3310162612 Thu, Feb 14, 2013, 18:17
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Overdue for a bump.
Re post 277, has it been 7 years already?
56 Up
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