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Subject: Season 9 and no merger talk


  Posted by: Wammie - [437541618] Sat, Feb 03, 20:48

We have a thread for forming a new league, what ever. lets talk in here about season 9. there is likely going to be a season 10, so we still have a couple months of p2 to play.

What the hell has gotten into the Dodgers!?!
 
1TBRaiders
      ID: 26738619
      Sat, Feb 03, 21:02
Steroids.

You forgot to put *Elite* in the title...lol

NL came into AL parks and put a whooping on. Rangers represented well but the rest were either splits or wins for the NL. I also noticed that the NL has only one team with a losing record. Pimpster came in and knocked Montgomery around a bit. He is hoping that he gets a chance to play those guys again in the post-season.

TB
 
2TBRaiders
      ID: 26738619
      Sat, Feb 03, 21:11
I was looking at league stats. Mets have 21 homers! Took a look at team and saw that rookie Branyan is the main culprit. 345 average rating but a 495 HR rating. The guy's stars are 2-4-4. To think that I don't even bother rating guys with less than three stars for average. Wonder if he will keep up the over .300 OBP?

Walks are down so far this year, K's are up. My team 5.85 ERA is taking me nowhere pretty fast.
 
3J
      ID: 32459220
      Sat, Feb 03, 23:40
I'm pretty happy with Branyan, I'm expecting a .200 AVG from him and about 20 homers a year. So far so good!

What I don't get is how Bowles has the 4th best batting average in the NL, yet also leads the world in strikeouts!!!!
 
4Brock
      ID: 3311272918
      Sun, Feb 04, 01:22
Crack Fiend forgot to put P2 in the title too. He is a true addict.
 
5Wammie
      ID: 437541618
      Sun, Feb 04, 09:55
You were smart enough to find it Brock. But I should have put p2 in it. i totally forgot.
 
6Purple Pimp
      ID: 91091619
      Sun, Feb 04, 12:56
Man this thread is boring nowadays...
 
7TBRaiders
      ID: 26738619
      Sun, Feb 04, 13:42
Just like your sex life, eh Pimpster?

J, I just dumped a couple 2-4-4 guys from a team I inherited. Makes me wish I kept them around just to see how high their HR gets.
 
8Purple Pimp
      ID: 91091619
      Sun, Feb 04, 14:56
No Tb, im sure it isnt as boring as yours, but then again using your hand can be fun sometimes eh Tb?
 
9Wammie
      ID: 437541618
      Sun, Feb 04, 15:12
The weekends are always slow on rotoguru
 
10TBRaiders
      ID: 26738619
      Sun, Feb 04, 15:15
Funny Pimpster! I seriously doubt you know of any other way to have sex.....hehehe

Been trying to log on today and peek at upcoming draft choices. The site has been horrible the last couple days. I can't get onto site right now. If the commish starts double sims for us I figure I had better get draft ranked.
 
11Timing
      ID: 590262414
      Sun, Feb 04, 18:17
Yall ever heard the song Dope Fiend? I dunno it was like a hot song in the early 90's. Brock with all his crack fiend talk reminded me of that song. Anyone know who sings it? Jazzy Red or somethin I think.

I may need to trade for some power, my team's like last in homers. Ugh!
 
12Wammie
      ID: 437541618
      Sun, Feb 04, 22:24
*WARNING*
Brock has figured out how to manipulate the sim. How else could you explain him taking 3 of 4 from me at home?
 
13TBRaiders
      ID: 26738619
      Sun, Feb 04, 22:42
I am with you there. My long home stand has been crap. I am a game or two in back of the Indians and barely over .500

Yes, the Indians. Everyone of my teams has sucked for the last week. Normally I would have at least one team doing well.

My hitting is fine but my pitching just keeps getting worse and worse. I don't even understand how my young RP Walker is carrying a 5+ ERA. I compare him to relievers from the teams I am playing and just wonder if I pissed the commish off.

To top it off, the guy has 5 whole weeks in the majors and wants 4 million a year to sign to a long term deal. Now, I don't sign anyone to long term deals usually until after the second season but wanted to peek at what price would be. I kinda hate that the commish just randomly changes the sim or the rules to the game without some type of advance warning.

"Howdy guys, for this weeks sim, only pitchers with a 450+ BB won't get shelled after 3 innings pitched. If you have any hitters with over a 450 average don't put them in an odd numbered spot in your batting order for games 2 and 4 because I am testing new K' patterns or they will just ground out."

Hmm, sounds bitter. Read the below slowly. The guy has a wee bit of an Irish or Scottish accent when he talks

A guy walks into an emergency room with a steering wheel imbedded into his crotch. The nurse on duty looks at him and says, "Did you know you have a steering wheel sticking out of your pants?"

The guy calmly looks at the nurse and replies, "Why yes I do. It's driving me nuts."

I say it every year, but this game is so friggin random that it sure drives me nuts at time. Not to be confused with driving my nuts.....lol

TB
 
14Purple Pimp
      ID: 91091619
      Sun, Feb 04, 22:48
Well, finally Some talk in here. My team is hot just got done giving whitey a ass whoppin and swept him. Now i get Brock... man can my schedule get any harder? Fielder is finally hitting like he should hes batting around 350 and he has 10 homers already.
 
15Wammie
      ID: 20039259
      Mon, Feb 05, 08:38
PP, You will not get any sympathy from me and your schedule. We all have tough ones in the NL.

What more do you want of Fielder. (Man I wish I would have never traded him) If was going to play a 162 game season, at this rate he would have

AVG .355
H 218
R 162
2B 8
3B 0
HR 81
RBI 162
BB 105
K 56
SB 32
E 16

I would say that he is hitting better than he should be. Look for him to slow down a bit. Those kinds of numbers over a season would put you in the hall of fame alone!
 
16Brock
      ID: 42542238
      Mon, Feb 05, 09:06
Wammie - There was most definitely a screw up in the sim last night. I should have swept your sorry ass. My team always does well against teams with bad pitching staffs. I'm on the rise and should be in first place after tonight.
 
17Whitey
      ID: 2543539
      Mon, Feb 05, 09:45
I demand that the commisioner voids the trade between the Mariners and the Padres. Brock got over 24 million in return for 5 piece of crap prospects. Am I wrong???

By the way, I have the best 8-12 team in the history of GSB...
 
18worm
      ID: 5215759
      Mon, Feb 05, 09:59
hey whitey look who is in your division now!!!!
 
19J
      ID: 50726110
      Mon, Feb 05, 10:01
how'd that happen?
 
20worm
      ID: 5215759
      Mon, Feb 05, 10:08
i have been asking the commish to switch me teams for two weeks now. i made a trade this morning and the next time i logged in i was the cubs. i guess he finally saw my request. cause you all have to admit the m's were a messed up team from the get go. i just couldnt take them anymore. if you all want to whine go ahead
 
21Wammie
      ID: 20039259
      Mon, Feb 05, 10:09
You contradict yourself, my team's pitching staff is one of the the top staffs in p2. I can't believe you scored as many runs against me as you did. The only way I can explain it is you hacked gsb. and we all thought grt would give an unfair advantage, what about brock's hacking?
 
22worm
      ID: 5215759
      Mon, Feb 05, 10:09
i have been asking for the royals but he gave me the cubs instead. too bad i couldnt hang around and tear you up timing. but it is whiteys turn now.
 
23Brock
      ID: 42542238
      Mon, Feb 05, 10:11
I got a steal with those sh!tty prospects. I proposed a trade to Worm, emailed him and told him that they were good players, especially King, and he accepted. Obviuosly he's not the brightest guy when it comes to GSB. I see that he's the Cubs now anyway. Similar money is spent on 4 star AVG Northern Leaguers anyway. I'm sorry for taking advantage of a retard.
 
24Whitey
      ID: 2543539
      Mon, Feb 05, 10:12
Awesome - the only all-gurupie division in P2..

worm - did you do the trade with Brock or was that some other owner? That trade is not right and Brock should be ashamed of himself..
 
25worm
      ID: 5215759
      Mon, Feb 05, 10:17
i dont know what happened man. i just logged on this morning i was the m's then like ten munutes later i logged on again and i was the cubs. i totally forgot that i requested the cubs. i have been trying to get the royals all this time too. cause that owner hasnt logged in for a while. but i am beginning to think that timing is also the owner of the royals as well as the butt rangers.
 
26Brock
      ID: 42542238
      Mon, Feb 05, 10:27
Wammie - your starting pitching is average(only 2 decent starters) and your relief is a little above average just because you have Clontz. Other than Clontz, you don't have sh!t in the pen.
 
27Wammie
      ID: 20039259
      Mon, Feb 05, 10:32
My pitching staff is not dominate, but all four starters are above well above average. my bull pen is anchored by Clontz, but Medina has good numbers too. his FB rateing is very low, but he is ok for the bullpen. slow-cum has damn good numbers, though he does give up the big inning every now and again.

The trade was one sided for Brock indeed, but I dont' think it swings the balance of power any where. Since I am the only other consistant gurupie in his the NL Best, I would me mostly effected by his trades, and it doesn't bother me that much.

If any one else has a problem just post it and we'll talk about it. this is a sad day for the NL, one of the weakest managers in GSB has moved into our league. we all must pick it up a notch or two to make up for this!
 
28Timing
      ID: 590262414
      Mon, Feb 05, 10:42
Worm you give conspiracy theorists a bad name. You stinkin worm... I told ya you'd never win a damn thing in our division! MWAHAHAHHA!
 
29Timing
      ID: 590262414
      Mon, Feb 05, 10:44
Lookin at the trade, I think it's been reversed or somethin. I see the trade in there twice.
 
30Wammie
      ID: 20039259
      Mon, Feb 05, 10:47
I think you are right Timing. It does look as if it were reversed. the commish said something on the message boards a while ago about bad trades having some sort of penalty and that he would reverse ones that he deemed bad for lack of a better word. maybe he got in on this one.
 
31J
      ID: 50726110
      Mon, Feb 05, 10:49
I think he also said something about a $10mil fine and booting the owners. I hope no one gets booted for this one, that would be a bit much, reversing the trade is good enough.
 
32worm
      ID: 5215759
      Mon, Feb 05, 10:50
teka ke la franc!!!!
yeah, you'll have to step it up a notch that i am in your league. as for you cock.....you didnt take advantage of a retard. i have no idea how that trade went through. i didnt even see a trade when i logged on this morning. wammie, you have defended me a lot in the past and now it is time for you to step up to the plate!! lets see what you have now.
 
33Brock
      ID: 42542238
      Mon, Feb 05, 10:52
Unfortunately the commsih must have reversed it. My first George Stienbrenner like move and it get over turned. I guess evil never wins.
 
34Brock
      ID: 42542238
      Mon, Feb 05, 10:57
Maybe there was a screw up when Worm switched teams. I don't know. I'm just pissed I don't have that money anymore. I go from being very happy about a lucky trade to being back to normal, only having $33 million. Does anybody want to loan(with no intent of me ever paying you back of course) me some money?
 
35Wammie
      ID: 20039259
      Mon, Feb 05, 11:00
Worm, I assume that supposed line is from major league, but jo bo needs a refill.

I can't wait to whip your ass worm. Timing has been having all the fun, and it is all of our turns in the NL. I already beat up on your squad once this year, and I will do it again. It will be sweeter this time though. are you going to use the Key Reliver thing or play traditional worm? against me you can do what ever you want to win. I don't care because all of the NL will dominate over you. we are far superior managers over here. You just went from pee wee to the majors. Don't know how you were picked over some of the more established owners to get a promotion to such an "elite" status, but good luck to you. you will need it!
 
36Timing
      ID: 590262414
      Mon, Feb 05, 11:00
Worm needs someone to defend his own stupidity! That's GREAT! LMAO
 
37Wammie
      ID: 20039259
      Mon, Feb 05, 11:05
The commish is probably tired of baby sitting worm. but maybe if worm took over 5 or 6 teams we wouldn't have to pay for a while. the commish would be too busy keeping worm from hurting himself
 
38Timing
      ID: 590262414
      Mon, Feb 05, 11:07
Damn I hope I play the Cubs this year! Gotta get another ass whippin in there before this league merges!
 
39worm
      ID: 5215759
      Mon, Feb 05, 11:08
timing the whole AL was bringing me down. the AL is useless just like in the real majors. i feel better about being among some winners for a change. i am sure my record will show it as well. tonight should be a battle with the giants and the cubs. if only harry was still around to see this one. timing is that a whimper i hear?
 
40worm
      ID: 5215759
      Mon, Feb 05, 11:08
whoops dodgers/cubs
 
41Timing
      ID: 590262414
      Mon, Feb 05, 11:16
The whimper is the sound of you packing your bags and runnin out of this division like a whipped puppy. This might be the most cowardly thing I've ever seen. You got no heart worm... no balls either for that matter. Runnin scared like a puppy gettin chased by the vacuum cleaner.... WIMP!
 
42worm
      ID: 5215759
      Mon, Feb 05, 11:20
Hailz no says the worm!!! the AL sucks. i was given a sh!t team and you guys know that. i finally have something to work with. so keep crying timing i feel your pain.
 
43Timing
      ID: 590262414
      Mon, Feb 05, 12:02
Yeah you took a crap team and made it crappier. Hell the Mariners will probably win more without you then they did with you. Snoop doggy wimp worm!
 
44Wammie
      ID: 20039259
      Mon, Feb 05, 12:19
I think I will have to agree with both Timing and Worm. The M's sucked no doubt about it, and worm did make the team worse, but I think he worked on the minor leagues though, and he was going in the right direction.
 
45Brock
      ID: 42542238
      Mon, Feb 05, 12:51
Wammie's done it again. He always seems to stick up for his sidekick.
 
46worm
      ID: 33152512
      Mon, Feb 05, 12:55
hey cock I HAVE NO SIDEKICK! the worm works alone. yeah, i had the minor league system going in the right direction. and i kept eady away from timing. my two full seasons as m's gm was not good. i did manage though to finish AHEAD of the rangers in one of my two seasons!
 
47TB at work
      ID: 1311481612
      Mon, Feb 05, 12:57
The trade Brock proposed wasn't the best but I have still seen worse. King is a viable prospect and Berger is playing on J's team under the name of Branyan.

I bet if you tossed Berger onto your MLB team and let him play two games he gets a HR.

I will give you some cash for King if you want to trade him.

TB
 
48Brock
      ID: 42542238
      Mon, Feb 05, 13:03
Make me an offer TB.
 
49Brock
      ID: 42542238
      Mon, Feb 05, 13:07
The reason the commish reversed the trade was not that it was unfair. He did it because Worm changed teams right after it happened. He probably wouldn't allow a team to make moves and then swich teams within the same league. It prevents things like Worm trading all his money to the Cubs before he gained control of them.
 
50worm
      ID: 33152512
      Mon, Feb 05, 13:13
who recently has played the cubs? wammie i see that you started the season against them. what do they have? you split with them right? i guess i can just wait to see tonight. i also noticed that i can help cock out a lot if i sweep them. like i said i am going to try my best just like i did in the AL with the m's. at least here in this division i have something to work with.
i cant really accept or propose any trades until i see what happens in the next few nights.
 
51J
      ID: 50726110
      Mon, Feb 05, 13:31
Well, I'm glad worm took the Cubs. For some reason I've always had problems beating them (I know they swept me towards the end of last season, and I just split with em last week). Now it'll be a cake-walk! I can start my AAA guys against them.
 
52Wammie
      ID: 20039259
      Mon, Feb 05, 13:37
I took 3 of 4 from the cubs. i had a hard time beating the cubs when sanchez ran the cubs, but that was at the beginning when i had no one, and the cubs won the first 2 ws. Now they haven't been that hard, and with worm at the helm, they should be push overs.
 
53Brock
      ID: 42542238
      Mon, Feb 05, 13:57
Wammie - Nobody is a push over for your squad of losers. I know you think you're big and bad now because you actually won a game against me but you're not. Your team is as bad as it's ever been.
 
54Wammie
      ID: 20039259
      Mon, Feb 05, 14:11
You must have a poor memory Brock. I know you remember when Brad Fulmer and Pookey Reese were my best players. under the old sim where average was even more important than today, and i didn't have a guy with an average of 450. You are right though Brock, I have done nothing to improve my team.
 
55Brock
      ID: 42542238
      Mon, Feb 05, 14:20
Don't lie to all of us. We all know your team was just as good as most of ours from the start. Some people made wiser moves at the beginning than others. I'm sorry that you didn't. All you had to do was ask me for advice. You could have had a winning year a lot sooner than season 7.
 
56Wammie
      ID: 20039259
      Mon, Feb 05, 14:27
Something like that. Go back and look at the old threads. You will plainly see that my team was not up to par. I would have probably traded my team of then for the present day M's
 
57Brock
      ID: 42542238
      Mon, Feb 05, 14:42
You are pathetic Wammie. We're not going to have pitty on you for the team you were given. I had 2 guys over 450 in AVG to start off with. You probably had some too but your crack induced semi-coma that you are in doesn't allow you to remember it. You were just a little slower than most when it came to figuring out the game.
 
58Wammie
      ID: 20039259
      Mon, Feb 05, 14:49
I don't want any sympathy. People know my team was sh!tty, and they can see that I am now putting a quality team on the field. Back at the beginning of the game, I traded you Bohanon in an attempt to get some tallent on my team. Had I known the value the best sp in all of gsb, that deal wouldn't have happened. You would not have won as many games. That is my biggest mistake ever in GSB. I would have been competeing much sooner for division titles. But oh well, live and learn!
 
59TBRaiders
      ID: 26738619
      Mon, Feb 05, 14:52
Sitting here laughing and reading P2 posts all day sure made me realize; These guys in the merger have no clue what is about to happen...lol

Wammie had a crappy team to start with. The Mariners had a contender. Wammie built that team up to where it is today, Brock's bitch!!

hehehe
 
60Wammie
      ID: 20039259
      Mon, Feb 05, 15:01
Sh!t TB. Brock reprograms the sim and takes 3 of 4 from me and the 'stros all of a sudden become the Pads b!tch! My 'stros are the west champs, and will be again. Brock and I have a little money on this season, so we will see how it works out.
 
61Brock
      ID: 42542238
      Mon, Feb 05, 15:05
You tell him TB. Wammie now knows what everyone else does, he's my bitch and always has been.

Does anybody have the rosters from season 1, 2, or 3?
 
62Wammie
      ID: 20039259
      Mon, Feb 05, 15:08
That would be cool Brock. I used to have a bunch of them on my old work computer. Wish I would put them on a disk now.
 
63Timing
      ID: 590262414
      Mon, Feb 05, 15:36
You're right TB, these merger people just don't know. I wonder who'll be the first merger team to get beat down in this thread. I have a couple of pretty good guesses I bet! =)
 
64TB at work
      ID: 1311481612
      Mon, Feb 05, 17:02
I have a couple guesses too. I am thinking that several will take it way too serious and act like a V2er.

I sure hope a couple P2 teams end up in the series. The smack talking will never cease.
 
65Purple Pimp
      ID: 91091619
      Mon, Feb 05, 17:49
My team is so great that Brock messed with the sim and I still took 3 from him.

PP
 
66TB at work
      ID: 1311481612
      Mon, Feb 05, 17:59
I don't know if I should be happy that I went 3-1 and took the lead in the AL East or sad that I lost one game to the Mariners.

I wish Worm had stayed one more day so I could have gotten the sweep.

At least my team ERA is looking a little more normal.
 
67worm
      ID: 330172519
      Mon, Feb 05, 18:19
not gonna say a word cock. i did my part on the dodgers by not letting them win the series. your shatty team couldnt gain any ground on a team who won two and lost two. up next.....wammie
 
68worm
      ID: 330172519
      Mon, Feb 05, 19:19
when i say i am not going to trade anyone that means i am not going to accept a trade. no matter what trade you send me i am going to reject every damn one
 
69worm
      ID: 330172519
      Mon, Feb 05, 19:58
i have an interesting schedule coming up....the stros are first, then whitey and the cards, then brock to round out all of this the mariners are coming to town. sounds like 16 wins for the cubbies!!!!!!!!
 
70J
      ID: 32459220
      Mon, Feb 05, 20:10
anyone else have an urge to bombard worm with trade offers?

:)
 
71Wammie
      ID: 437541618
      Mon, Feb 05, 20:20
Yes I do J. Matt Ryan is the only player I would want from the Cubs though.

Worm, I am can tell you that I will be kicking some ass tomorrow.

To the rest of you guys, should we start a pool of how long it takes before worm drives the cubs into the ground? If we have 1..5 more seasons of p2, that is plenty of time for him!
 
72worm
      ID: 330172519
      Mon, Feb 05, 20:31
send me trades. i dont really care. but people always bitch when i make a lopsided trade but the ones bitching are always first in line in trying to get me to make another trade. i guess we'll have to see tomorrow night how good your stros are sammie. as for the rest of you, i play whitey in the near future maybe then i will take over the cellar. but if not i will try and give you all a great big sh!t burger to eat.
 
73Wammie
      ID: 437541618
      Mon, Feb 05, 20:35
Worm, you seem to know that you belong in the cellar. I would expect nothing less from an AL manager trying to make it in the NL. I am actually offended that the Commish would put you in the NL if the Royals could have been your team. You haven't earned the right to play in the NL
 
74worm
      ID: 330172519
      Mon, Feb 05, 20:43
we'll see after tomorrow night wont we wammmie.
i'll show you how we do it here in the midwest. you damn east coast people dont know a damn thing. maybe it is all those crabs you eat. either way you are in for a rude awakening. i will stand by these words too! i tried to get the royals many times over so i could walk all over timing. but the commish felt that i belong in the NL. i am kinda glad he put me here now. so i can show you, brock and whitey just how i can handle my own!
 
75Brock
      ID: 106282323
      Mon, Feb 05, 21:22
Kick Sammie's ass worm. Prove to us that you're not his sidekick. You should have an easy time with his high school-like team.
 
76Wammie
      ID: 437541618
      Mon, Feb 05, 22:30
First of all Worm, I just moved East from Iowa, so I know the midwest. Secondly my 'stros will be puttingon a serious beat down tomorrow. Thirdly, Brock talks out his ass.
 
77TBRaiders
      ID: 26738619
      Mon, Feb 05, 23:06
I hope Worm kicks your butt. At first I misread what you said. I thought it said Brock talks out his Wammie.

I still think Worm is the catsup on your french fries but this beat down has been pretty funny.

For what it's worth Worm, I thought Brock was asking for a little too much cash but there were two players worth it and the pitchers were actually an improvement over what that Mariner team has.

J, I was going to offer him a player for nothing just to see if he turned it down. Can't do it now that he will be looking for it, but thought it would be funny.

TB
 
78TBRaiders
      ID: 26738619
      Mon, Feb 05, 23:34
Okay, so after my last post I log in to see if Brock counter-bid on the catcher. I see a couple other trade offers from the Dodgers from out of nowhere.

I swear, this guy sends me trade offers annually that are usually out of the blue. When I see Negrette as part of the deal I almost decline right away but decide to look at players. Then I look at Negrette, 34 and kinda overpaid. I got some youth in the deal and I am always a sucker for some cash. Then I look at Magee. He has been solid for me for years but he is getting old too and I get a younger OF that isn't as good but some young prospects and my favorite, more cash.

Personally, I think it is a great trade for me. Doesn't help my chances to make it back to the series this year, but adds some depth for future years.

Anyone think I shouldn't have done it?

TB

PS. I didn't think that catcher was worth 5 mil Brock, but the Dodgers tossed all that cash my way and I hate to see you come into the merger poor after spending 40 mil on NL players.
 
79Purple Pimp
      ID: 91091619
      Tue, Feb 06, 01:15
POWER RANKINGS....

I was bored so decided to do some power ranking there are Bases on AVG SLG OBP ERA AND WINNING PERCENTAGE

I did it rotissiere (sp?) style. So say the Royals have best ERA they get 16 pts then Braves are second with 15 pts and so on.

Well here they are (note in case of a tie I put the team with a better Winning Percentage ahead of the other)

Maximum amount of points 80

1. Braves (75)
2. Mets (74)
3. Royals (68)
4. Orioles (68)
5. Cubs (49)
6. Dodgers (44)
7. Rangers (44)
8. Yankees (42)
9. Astros (40)
10. Red Sox (38)
11. Indians (34)
12. Padres (34)
13. Cardinals (33)
14. White Sox (30)
15. Giants (12)
16. Mariners (6)

Total Points for Division

1. NL East (231)
2. AL East (182)
3. AL West (148)
4. NL West (130)

NL VS AL

1. NL (361)
2. AL (330)

There ya have it boys Braves are best team, NL West is the worst division and NL is better then AL

Lets see what happens in a couple days when I do it again.
 
80Wammie
      ID: 20039259
      Tue, Feb 06, 07:48
This year I would have to say that the NL East has top to bottom the most solid divison. Followed by the NL West. When your worst team is coming off of a WS, that is pretty good. The West would be solid too, but Al's Giants can't get it going. If his team was playing up to par, we would have gridlock again in the NL
 
81Brock
      ID: 42542238
      Tue, Feb 06, 08:07
Official GSB Power Rankings

1. Padres
2. Braves
3. Mets
4. Dodgers
5. Orioles
6. Cubs
7. Rangers
8. Cardinals
9. Indians
10. Red Sox
11. Yankees
12. Astros
13. Giants
14. Royals
15. White Sox
16. Mariners

A poll was taken by all GSB owners in P2 and these are the offcial results.

There you have it boys the Padres are best team.
 
82TB at work
      ID: 1311481612
      Tue, Feb 06, 08:50
Brock, you are a nut.

Pimpster, good job on the power rankings. Kinda funny that season after season I have been telling the nerds in the NL West their division is the worst and you back it up with some data. I don't think there has been any doubt that the NL East has been the toughest division since about season 3.

Just for the heck of it I tossed a couple trade offers at ya Worm. The Cubbies have a pretty nice line-up. You need another good OF. Their pitching is weak. Two solid looking players in Wright and Ryan, though.

TB
 
83Wammie
      ID: 20039259
      Tue, Feb 06, 08:55
There needs to be new power rankings now that all of these trades have gone down.

Also, Brock says I am on crack. if that is not the pot and the kettle, I know what is
 
84Brock
      ID: 42542238
      Tue, Feb 06, 09:03
I was mocking PP with my poll. You're serious with most of your statements you crack whore. I know it's hard for you to see the difference between the world you live in and reality. PP's poll and my poll have equal relevance though.
 
85Whitey
      ID: 2543539
      Tue, Feb 06, 09:08
Brock - You wonder how owners like SanFran build up their team into powerhouses??? Look at the trades between TB and the Dodgers..there's your answer.

TB - Should you have done it, are you kidding me??? You took total advantage of that jacka$$ because it's his last season and he wants to win it all. He got an old reliever and an old outfielder and he gave up a ton of cash, a couple insane prospects and a few very solid major leaguers. I mean, that guy Dixon is almost as good as Negrette himself...

One of the worst trades in our league's history. I really am getting sick of people taking advantage of stupid owners, those trades weren't cool..

By the way, there's no way the Dodgers are winning crap this season and those two trades didn't help them one bit...what a f#@$ing joke!
 
86Brock
      ID: 42542238
      Tue, Feb 06, 09:27
I know that SanFran didn't acquire his players this way. His guys weren't young prospects. They were established ML's. Some he probably proposed trades to an owner, the owner accepted them, and then the owner left. Either that or he had no competition when it came to FA. I would say both happened.
 
87worm
      ID: 4614769
      Tue, Feb 06, 09:51
wow when i got here this morning i figured that i would have a ton of trades to have to reject. but no one sent me a single one! you guys (and timing) really surprised me. the show down is tonight wammie. your men ready? i hope they all go out and get stoned before the game. i may have to adjust my line-up before game time. i see the royals are with out an owner. too bad the commish didnt listen to my plea's to get the royals under the management of the worm.
 
88Wammie
      ID: 20039259
      Tue, Feb 06, 09:51
If a team a real major league team needs two players to make them a ws winner, they might trade away a few of their top prospects. hard to say. But that is a lot of the problem with this league ending, and still taking these teams into another league. Since I am not taking this team with me, what is to keep me from giving all of my players to one of the other p2ers? nothing really
 
89worm
      ID: 4614769
      Tue, Feb 06, 09:56
wow wammie, great minds do think alike. that is just what i was thinking.
 
90TB at work
      ID: 1311481612
      Tue, Feb 06, 11:16
Whitey,

Pretty strong words. I was wondering where you have been lately. Seeing how I got Negrette from you several seasons ago, you know what a stud he is. A great reliever can win many games and he was a key player in my championship last season.

Magee is a stud OF and is close to the career leader board in OBP .376 and SLG .431. His season stats are even better and again, he was a key player in both of my championships.


Do I feel like I got the best end of that trade? Most certainly. I feel that way in every trade or I wouldn't make them. Did I take advantage of the Dodgers? Hell no. He proposed the trade and we never even talked in email. I almost didn't accept it. Having 50 great prospects doesn't win championships. Having a solid MLB line-up does. It greatly lessons my chances of winning the series again this year and that is what I try to do every year.

Different philosophys for every owner. What I don't understand is why you are so damn bitter about everyone elses trades. He needs another OF and you still have plenty. I am betting you could trade him a good OF and obtain a couple prospects.

I also didn't know he was leaving GSB but it still doesn't matter. It was a good trade. One where he felt he strengthened his MLB team and chances of winning this year. Heck, I just looked at his minor league system and he has great prospects at every level. He didn't even hurt his team for future competitiveness.

Here I go, defending a good trade on my part:

Dixon- lifetime he has given up more than one hit per inning, lifetime losing record and 4.5+ERA. Currently a 2-4 record with a 6.19 ERA.

Tucker- scrub player available for any team that wants him or will rot on my A team until he turns 30. Lifetime 7-12, 6.16 ERA.

Andra- 2 year SP prospect, will have a low CU and probably sub 400 Control.

Kennedy- 2 year 2B prospect with 3-3-2 stars. Don't see much potential.

Gann- 26 year old, 3 year OF prospect. Looks like he will be a stud.

Basically I traded away my stud pitcher from the pen for a stud OF prospect, a decent SP prospect, and at best an average pitcher for my pen that will lose more games for me then Negrette would have.

Real unfair trade there. Wait a sec, he tossed in 12 million dollars. I sure needed that, I was almost below 100 million.

TB
 
91PP at school
      ID: 7144611
      Tue, Feb 06, 11:49
Whiteys alive!
 
92Timing
      ID: 590262414
      Tue, Feb 06, 11:55
I got no problem with the Negrette trade but that second trade... hmmmm, I dunno about that one. That one was really lopsided but I don't think there's anything wrong goin on there. The Dodgers owner is just tryin to win this year.
 
93PP at school
      ID: 7144611
      Tue, Feb 06, 12:00
Who cares... everyone knows that the series is mine this year... ALL HAIL THE BRAVES!!
 
94Whitey
      ID: 2543539
      Tue, Feb 06, 12:07
It's been a very hostile Whitey on this board for the last couple weeks....it all started with that debacle in the World Series...and then comes season 9. Suddenly my team which has been the top NL team for 5 or 6 seasons forgets how to play...

I tried to deal with that prick from the Dodgers but he insists on giving me prospects that I tell him I don't need (outfielders)

Keep trying to tell yourself that it was a fair trade, TB. You're not gonna convince me though...this league is becomaing a joke. We even have teams now without owners...The AL is falling apart as we speak...how long can the Royals run on auto-pilot before they collapse???

Most owners in this league are not interested in a trade that will help both sides...some of the owners who I have a real probably dealing with are TB, J and Timing...you guys will never accept a trade unless you get the better of it, that's weak....

I gotta get back to check on my team and see which eight men have been paid off this season... (Chicago Black Sox reference for those scoring at home)

Braves/Astros in the NLCS
Royals/Orioles in the ALCS

Braves/Orioles in the WS

Braves in 6
 
95Timing
      ID: 590262414
      Tue, Feb 06, 12:31
Who knew Whitey was one of Snow White's dwarfs!? Whitey, Fussy, Grumpy, Bitchy, Whiny, Moany...


=)


 
96TB at work
      ID: 1311481612
      Tue, Feb 06, 12:33
Definitely bitter.

I don't need to convince myself. I do think I came out on the better end. I am looking at the future and he wants to win now. I have made the same trades in the past that the Dodgers are making. Gave up lots of prospects and cash for players, to win that year.

You are being so damn high and mighty. I suppose you make all your trades for the betterment of the league? Lets see, this trade really helps my team more than yours I so I won't make it. That is weak Whitey. Your teams is sucking and so you are going to be irrational about it. None of us were out trying to trade a scrub like Peterman.

For the record, you have made more trades with me then any other owner. I came out and gave you a better trade for Negrette then what you expected and I have made many trades with many teams. I think most will agree that I make fair trades. I also still see Higginson and Harriger playing for your team. That trade wasn't better for my team but I made it because I didn't want the league upset.

Take a good look at your own roster and think back to your trades for some of those players. Nobody was getting all bitter on you when I thought you got the better end of a trade.

The league isn't a joke. Owners that don't want to pay to play are losing interest. Our core of guys are still here and kicking.

Nobody can win every single year. Take a step back, reload, and then start kicking butt again.

TB

PS. I can't think of one time where you and started talking trade and it we didn't come up with a fair offer for both sides.
 
97Wammie
      ID: 20039259
      Tue, Feb 06, 12:40
All I know is now that Brock traded Shiell, the Dodgers and I will be going at it for the West. I am glad to see Whitey thinks I can do it. I hope so too.
 
98Whitey
      ID: 2543539
      Tue, Feb 06, 12:43
Wow, TB. I didn't think you had it in you....I actually got you to sling the mud back at me....

"Definitely bitter" - you're absolutely right

"You're being so damn high and mighty" - you're wrong here

"Your teams is sucking and so you are going to be irrational about it. None of us were out trying to trade a scrub like Peterman." - that one hurt, I have to admit...kicking a guy when he's down

I do admit I jumped the gun by saying you don't make fair trades...we have made a lot of fair trades in the past. I also didn't think it would get quite a rise out of you like it did..I never intend to take any personal shots at anyone who I feel I get along with in our league(that includes TB, J, Timing, Wammie, pimpster, Brock, worm..did I leave anybody out?). I know we talk a lot of 4Hit at times, but iut usually done in good fun and we know when to draw the line (except for worm!!) I need to apologize to TB for questioning his integrity though, that wasn't right

I still stand behind my statement that J and Timing are really tough to do a deal with, but that doesn't mean I dislike them at all.

I think I do need to take a step back...this stupid game is driving me nuts!!!
 
99Timing
      ID: 590262414
      Tue, Feb 06, 12:44
Looks like Brock got to the Dodgers a little too late cause TB raked the Dodgers, then the Dodgers turned around and raked Brock.
 
100Wammie
      ID: 20039259
      Tue, Feb 06, 12:52
Any one who is pissed off that the Dodgers traded away a bunch of prospects, before you could get one. I would love to get a STUD pitcher first of all, or a STUD hitter. any position. I will give up any prospect(s) for one. The Dodgers are leading my division, and making moves, so Now I have to make some moves too.
 
101Brock
      ID: 42542238
      Tue, Feb 06, 13:15
Wammie - The division is still mine to lose. I finally got rid of that bum Shiell. I think he only had 1 good season for me. I'm going with a fresh new pitcher in my rotation. I don't know who yet but he'll kick some ass. TB, you're going down in the World Series. I'm going to beat you in 7 games.
 
102Wammie
      ID: 20039259
      Tue, Feb 06, 13:19
Brock, you are messed up in the head. Do you want to buy insurance on our bet? You just give me half and the bet is off. is that fair?
 
103Whitey
      ID: 2543539
      Tue, Feb 06, 13:23
"I don't know who yet but he'll kick some ass"

What kind of logic do you call that, Brock? Is it just because he will have a good pitching coach that you know he will kick ass?? Or is it that the GM is such a genius that any pitcher he puts in the rotation is a lock??

;)
 
104Timing
      ID: 590262414
      Tue, Feb 06, 13:31
Okay... I admit it. J really is hard to trade with. There, I said it. =)
 
105Wammie
      ID: 20039259
      Tue, Feb 06, 13:32
Because by default the top players in p2 are padres. no matter what the guys stats or cats say. if he trades for a guy, then he automatically becomes the best player in the league, but when he leaves for FA or is traded away, he was a "bum."
 
106J
      ID: 50726110
      Tue, Feb 06, 13:34
Whitey - what's the point of making a trade if it doesn't help your own organization?

I think the reason I'm on that list was because of last year and Norton. My reasoning for not trading him to you was this:
-You were a few games up on me.
-It would improve your team more than it would improve mine.

Now, in hindsight, I wish I would've done the trade, because I never did trade Norton and you won the division anyways!!!!! Now I have nothing.
 
107J
      ID: 50726110
      Tue, Feb 06, 13:35
damn. I'm getting a reputation!!!! Have I even ever tried working on a trade with you Timing???

=)
 
108Whitey
      ID: 2543539
      Tue, Feb 06, 13:36
I will start the list of ex-Padre greats who became bums right after they were traded:

Shiell
Mickey Lopez (he was a Padre right??)
Thompson
 
109Whitey
      ID: 2543539
      Tue, Feb 06, 13:37
J - It just means that you are not willing to budge when you set your trade demands. Many owners will be flexible if they really want to do a deal, but I have found that you are not easily swayed, that's not necessarily a bad thing
 
110Timing
      ID: 590262414
      Tue, Feb 06, 13:38
Hmm, don't think so J but Whitey's been floatin rumors about you man! I'm just the middle man in this whole thing. Mwahhahaha.
 
111Brock
      ID: 42542238
      Tue, Feb 06, 13:41
Whitey - add Callier to that list. I don't think he's had a good season since he left me, at least not to my standards. I've never said 1 bad thing about Thompson, either of them.

You were correct with the genius GM part Whitey.

Wammie - The players I trade for are not automatically the best players in the league. They are usally ranked 4th or 5th behind Petrick, Brogna and Hunter.
 
112Wammie
      ID: 20039259
      Tue, Feb 06, 14:48
I meant at their position Brock. Sorry about that. Whitey, I am starting to think that Brock really has messed with the sim if he thinks he has any one to fill Shiell's shoes and to make a run at the NL West.
 
113worm
      ID: 330172519
      Tue, Feb 06, 19:22
not much time to mess around wammie so here it is....we split. no one has yet to take a series from me yet as a cub. whitey is up next.
 
114Brock
      ID: 106282323
      Tue, Feb 06, 19:38
Worm - Too bad you bullpen blew leads in both the games that Wammie won. That's about the only way he gets any wins.
 
115worm
      ID: 1144619
      Tue, Feb 06, 19:46
is right brock, i gaurentee that when the pads and cubs lock horns there will be no blown leads for the cubs. i will take three from you at the least!
 
116Brock
      ID: 106282323
      Tue, Feb 06, 20:30
Dream on grub worm. You're the Cubs. The Cubs suck and always will suck. They're natural born losers, this game and real life.
 
117worm
      ID: 1144619
      Tue, Feb 06, 20:33
just like wammie, running his mouth. well i found out he couldnt back up sh!t. i dont really think you can either. you remind me of some guys i play in a dart league with. pathetic.
 
118Timing
      ID: 590262414
      Tue, Feb 06, 21:11
Dude... you play in a dart league? lol
 
119Brock
      ID: 106282323
      Tue, Feb 06, 21:18
I'm sure you get beat around like a red-headed stepchild in the dart league just like you do in P2.
 
120TB at work
      ID: 1311481612
      Tue, Feb 06, 21:59
Ya know, since he got the Cubs I haven't seen him get beat around but I have seen the Padres get the beatdown. Brock, glad to see that you finally realized you are going to start the offseason earlier than contenders and are trading away your MLB players for some prospects.

I played in a dart league and a pool league. Both were just good reasons to go out and drink some beer.

Whitey, I was never upset and didn't feel like I was slinging anything back. You just needed a bitch-slap to get back into reality. I saw that Worm did that for you tonight, too.

=)

Seriously, though, I know you are pretty serious about this damn game and are competitive. Every now and then your team is just going to suck and you gotta drive on and kick butt the next year. Just be happy your not Brock or Wammie and switch off good year for bad year and back again. If GSB wasn't going to a pay-site they would both be looking up at the Dodgers for years.

The Dodger owner has taken a while to catch onto this game but I believe he is the original owner. So I guess he can be credited with the two worse trades in GSB history. If his teams makes it to the series, then he is a genius.

BTW, you can check out Dixon's debut with the O's in game three against the Rangers. The score is very indicitive of his performance.

Timing has been the hardest person to trade with in this league but he has made me great trades in Y2. He was building for the future with this team and I remember him telling you a couple times he didn't want your old guys.

J always gives me a good deal. He starts off with a scrubby offer sometimes but he likes to test your sobriety level prior to negotiations.

Brock and me have a policy. All trades will be accepted within 15 seconds(inside joke with Lundberg and Thompson)

Wammies team is always full of scrubs and no reason to trade with him.

Worm, I know you saw my trade offer. Post 87 made me laugh. Accept the one for Stromsburgh. He is better than your 3rd and 4th OF and I am asking a whopping 250K. I would give him to you but with all the trades lately I don't want the commish to see anything looking like collusion.

Pimpster and me almost had an awesome trade. If only he could have kept to his losing ways. Man, I had the squeeze on him.....lol

Hey Wammie, it really isn't much fun giving you a hard time lately if you aren't going to fight back.

;)

TB
 
121TB at work
      ID: 1311481612
      Tue, Feb 06, 22:29
I noticed something tonight in another thread and hadn't really thought about it. Except for the Cubs we have all the original owners in the NL. That might explain why it is indeed a better overall conference. Yep, TB has no problem admitting it. Doesn't mean I think you have the best teams every year but overall it is more competitive.

Here are the teams:

NL East
Braves - Purple Pimp
Mets - J
Cards - Whitey
Cubs -Sanchez(2),Josie(1),f{}ck stick who jacked bids, last guy, now Worm

NL West
Giants - AL
Padres - Brock
Astros - Wammie
Dodgers - Philip Mendoza

AL East
Orioles - TB(only original guy in AL East)
Yankees - Chiz, been around a while(7-8 seasons?)
Red Sox - Outlaw aka St Louis Pyschos, been around for 3-4 seasons
Indians - Boomer, been around 4-5 seasons but team was mismanaged by Twarpy after season three and never recovered
AL West
Royals - Logos(original,just quit) no owner
Rangers - Timing, been here since season 3
ChiSox - MikeMaz, then some guy would just recently left and now no owner
Mariners- Myriad of owners, constantly mismanaged and recently abandoned by the new and improved trash talking Worm.

Someone correct me if I am wrong but I think Chiz joined after second season.

Overall, it is no wonder that the Mariners, Indians, and Cubs have been pretty bad the last 6-7 seasons. I remember the Mariners being a contender back in the first couple seasons.
 
122Brock
      ID: 106282323
      Tue, Feb 06, 23:07
Trust me, the Dodgers owner and Sanchez had something going on. They were both from Edmonton, Alberta. They made the most lopsided trade in GSB history. It's even worse now when you look back on it, 2 stud startes for nothing but garbage. I don't know what you're talking about TB. The Dodgers would never win my division had I not made trades with them. They had average pitching and well below average hitting before all the trades. Now they have good pitching but their hitting is just average. I'll still win the division. I've played 1 home series so far. 7 of my next 8 series are at home. That's at least 18 wins. I'm only 3 games out of first place even with my horrible schedule. You better be ready for a big fat "I told you so" next Thursday night.
 
123TB at work
      ID: 1311481612
      Tue, Feb 06, 23:13
I used to call it a big fat doobie, because that's what your smokin'

I agree, their hitting is still average but that's better then the rest of the competition in the NL Worst.

I sure could use some pitching myself. It is going to be real embarrassing when the ownerless Royals win the AL.
 
124Wammie
      ID: 437541618
      Tue, Feb 06, 23:25
Brock, your team was better at the start of the season than it is now. you sure as hell aren't winning the West. Watch for Al to pass brock in the standings before it is over.

TB, I don't have not traded with you very much if at all, so you probably don't have a feel for my trading. I have made several trades with Whitey for instance. You are right that I haven't had a lot of players worth trading for though. Now that my team is decent, I usually have to wait until after the draft to make any moves, so I have a few prospects that I can trade.

Finally glad to see that TB has realized that the NL is so much better. The lie must have been eating away at him!

Worm got lucky as sh!t tonight. too bad i already played the cubs earlier. I would like to get another shot at him, but it looks like I will be playing the Braves or Mets in the playoffs. too bad for worm

Brock, it was nice to see that you couldn't even start a guy with a stamina above 200 in Shiell's spot. he is a far better pitcher than Shiell, you were right. I am sure you will comment on his 4 inning 1 run, but lets see how he does after 2 or 3 starts.

Back to any one wanting prospects, I have a few, and will trade them for a hitter or SP. I would even trade them for a damn good bullpen pitcher if it came down to it.
 
125Brock
      ID: 106282323
      Tue, Feb 06, 23:30
So what do you call a big fat doobie now? I sure did kick the White Sox's ass when we played. I believe the NL dominated the AL. Maybe you should look at you own division before you start saying sh!t about mine. How are all those "No Owner" teams doing??? I see the Royals have the best reocrd in the AL. That just proves how tough the AL really is. The NL Best is what it is.
 
126Brock
      ID: 106282323
      Tue, Feb 06, 23:35
Wammie - Worm sure did get lucky against your sorry ass. If only he would not have blown you out 2 games, you would have swept him. You sure did lay a smack down on him too in the wins you got against him. I would say the GSB gods were on your side tonight with those 2 blown saves Worm had.

I told you I had a stud to fill Shiell's shoes. He did a damn good job too. Hoepfully he'll get some ROY votes.
 
127TB at work
      ID: 1311481612
      Tue, Feb 06, 23:46
You guys do crack me up. Slammie, I was just messing with you but still didn't get much of a smackdown from you. I think we have made a trade or two.

Brock, I think Wammie is right. The Giants will be passing you soon. If you were an AL opponent you would be quitting as well. You would get tired of getting your butt kicked by the Royals and O's every year.

I gotta get home and to bed. I sure hope you come up with some new material soon, Brock. You are gonna need it when I slam you with the "I told you so" come next week.

I forgot to give Timing Props for post # 95. That was pretty damn funny. I would have mentioned it earlier but Whitey was still being a dwarf.

TB
 
128Purple Pimp
      ID: 91091619
      Wed, Feb 07, 00:38
Hey Tb what trade was that you were talking about?
 
129Whitey
      ID: 2543539
      Wed, Feb 07, 08:21
Brock - How can you say that you have a chance against the Stros and Dodgers when you traded the best player in the history of GSB in Brogna (or is he the 2nd best?) ;)

If you were going to contend this season, there is no way you would have traded Brogna and Romano.

Now, I'm wondering if I should go the same route as Brock...I have some studs that I could unload for nice prospects (Joyner, Feramisco, Higginson, Caraciolli, etc)..

I will know after this 16 game homestand where I stand. If I am within 4 games of first, then I have a shot. Tonight should be a good gauge as to where my team is at, if I lose 3 out of 4 to the Cubs at home, it's sayanara for the Cardinals..
 
130Brock
      ID: 42542238
      Wed, Feb 07, 08:43
Whitey - when your loaded like the Pads, you can trade away all-stars and still have all-stars to fill their shoes. You won't be able to get much for your players. The Dodgers have been picked clean of all their prospects. I doubt if any other team is going to make any deals with you that would be close to what the Dodgers would have given you if you'd have done this earlier. I'm still looking to trade a couple of guys.
 
131Worm
      ID: 57110610
      Wed, Feb 07, 09:28
hey T.B i thought your trade was a joke. that is why i didnt accept it. i didnt want more people going to the commish compaining and getting the worm kicked out.
as for the dart league.....it is an excellent chance to drink beer and have a good time with friends. something i guess timing doesnt know anything about.
sorry mammie that i cant get another chance against you. i would have made it count this time. but i do still have my series against brock tonight and i have to get prepared for that.
if i keep splitting against teams then i will never gain any ground on the braves cause for some odd reason people in this league cant seem to beat them. so what do you say, who ever plays the braves tonight give the worm a gift and SWEEP them!!
 
132Whitey
      ID: 2543539
      Wed, Feb 07, 09:31
Worm - I think you got a series against Whitey tonight and not Brock..are you looking ahead to tomorrow's games????

If my team continues its shoddy play, you should have no problem taking at least 2 of 4 from me...
 
133Worm
      ID: 57110610
      Wed, Feb 07, 09:40
is right whitey i guess i am in st. louis tonight. i am just so pumped up for my series with the pads you must have slipped my mind. because i know like everyone else i would love to sweep the trash talking pads. i am four games up on you whitey now if you sweep me we will be tied for last place. according to brock and wammie that should happen becuase i am such a bad gsb owner/gm/manager. game three looks like it will be a nail biter tonight whitey, i have levan going at 0-4 with a 9.00 era and you have harriger going with a 1-4 record and 6.00 era.
good luck tonight you are def. going to need it!
W-O-R-M
 
134Worm
      ID: 57110610
      Wed, Feb 07, 09:42
whitey i am thinking sweep tonight against the
sh!tbag cards.
 
135Whitey
      ID: 2543539
      Wed, Feb 07, 09:49
worm - what's with post 134 dude? It seems like you were finished with what you had to say in post 133 and then you felt like starting some trash-talking..you're messed up in the head!

By the way, you don't even want to hear what I think should happen in our series tonight...

-Whitey
 
136worm
      ID: 3215179
      Wed, Feb 07, 09:55
i am ready for you tonight. so tell me great mind, what do you think will happen tonight? yeah, i was done in post 133 but i decided what the hell i'd give you something to munch on for a while. that is why i posted 134. so lets hear it nighty!!
 
137Whitey
      ID: 2543539
      Wed, Feb 07, 10:38
What's with the nicknames, sperm???

Based on what I see when I look at our two teams, I can honestly say I should take 3 out of 4, especially since it is in my park. Things rarely work out like you want them to...since I really don't have a shot at the division now, it won't hurt so bad if you "sweep the sh!tbag cards"

The Dodgers are looking like the favorites now in the NL thanks to Brock and TB....
 
138worm
      ID: 3215179
      Wed, Feb 07, 11:27
no one bitch
 
139Brock
      ID: 42542238
      Wed, Feb 07, 11:31
FYI - A blockbuster trade just went down.
 
140Timing
      ID: 590262414
      Wed, Feb 07, 11:31
Sorry grub worm I don't call gettin drunk and throwin sharp metal objects accross a room a good time. A good opportunity for manslaughter perhaps but not a good time. Go play a real sport D-O-R-K.

Hmm I may decide to trade some of my prospects so I can catch them damn Royals.
 
141Timing
      ID: 590262414
      Wed, Feb 07, 11:37
Dude what is with all these trades? grub worm just got raked MAJORLY. Nice job worm, your talent strikes again!
 
142Timing
      ID: 590262414
      Wed, Feb 07, 11:39
Have yall seen Guru's ad for Viagra!? LMAO What the hell? Worm, looks like you can shop from home now buddy.
 
143Brock
      ID: 42542238
      Wed, Feb 07, 11:41
I guess Worm is going for it all this year.
 
144worm
      ID: 3215179
      Wed, Feb 07, 11:44
okay lets see here timing.....wright wouldn re-sign with me. so i had to move him. i dont need any minor league talent cause more than likely there will only be one more season of P2. bluma moved right away into my rotation and darts is fun as hell to play while drinking beer. but i guess since you have no friends you dont know how to have fun.....trace is a better second baseman than what i had currently. so the deal was fair.
 
145worm
      ID: 3215179
      Wed, Feb 07, 11:48
you wanna get in on this too whitey?
 
146Timing
      ID: 590262414
      Wed, Feb 07, 11:49
Yeah... that deal was about as fair as the odds at a slot machine. Brock is probably laughin his ass off right now about how he snowed you.
 
147Brock
      ID: 42542238
      Wed, Feb 07, 11:52
I wouldn't say I snowed him. More like taking advantage of a situation, much like TB and I have done with the Dodgers. We're getting rid of our old players to teams that want to try to win the World Series. We all know that Worm hasn't been the brightest when it comes to trades. I figured I could get the most from him. The Dodgers were trying to get both of them from me but they didn't have much left to offer. I mad a few offers to Worm. I was actually hoping to get more than what I did. I'm happy anyway though.

Is anybody interested in Ben Petrick?
 
148Whitey
      ID: 2543539
      Wed, Feb 07, 12:07
The Dodgers aren't done yet...he wants Joyner AND Higginson. Here is an e-mail I sent back to him regarding a trade offer he proposed. I'm not going to give up those guys unless it's the right offer:

"Well, I did reject it, but it is a little more interesting. Here are my thoughts.

the first baseman you offered in return is a decent player, but nowhere near Joyner. I can understand that though since you want to upgrade him. Now the other three,
Bell and Brower are just about done increasing (if they haven't stopped already) so that puts them as average ML players. If Brower can't get at least that third rating above 400 I don't think he will do much in ML.

Casimiro is young but the best he will probably be is a one-dimensional player with no power, gap or speed. Norberto Martin I feel will be a better player that is why I was requesting him.

In summary, do you really think that the four players you offered plus cash (I don't need the cash) is equal to 2 established MLers like Higgy and Joyner?

Bell and Brower are interesting to me, but there would have to be some other nice players to go along with them for Joyner and Higgy to bid adieu to the Cardinals"
 
149Timing
      ID: 590262414
      Wed, Feb 07, 12:08
Everyone remember how the Commish said he was goin to a pay site because of lack of advertisers? Well, just today I've seen like 6 new advertisers. Motor Trend, Organ Donation, INetBet, New York Times, etc. I don't think he was being completely honest about all that jazz. Don't get me wrong, he can do whatever he wants but at least be up front about it.
 
150Timing
      ID: 590262414
      Wed, Feb 07, 12:11
The Dodgers sent me an offer of $30 million for Vinny Castilla.... whatever. lol
 
151Whitey
      ID: 2543539
      Wed, Feb 07, 12:16
worm - I wouldn't even have traded Wright and Crespo straight up for Trace and Bluma. And you also gave him 2 prospects and cash. I'm sorry, but that was a dumb trade.

I also don't think it is right what some managers are doing by emptying out their farm system to try and win for this last season. These guys won't even be around to suffer through the 5-10 seasons of rebuilding that their teams will need. I could understand if the Dodgers owner was willing to stick around, but since he is not I will have to put an asterisk next to his name after he wins the NL.


Does anyone agree that he is building a super-team by devious methods?

*** By the way, I think I'm done with the P2 league. I might just stick with SW Hoops for a while now. Most of you guys are really cool to interact with so hopefully we can still keep in touch whether it be SW hoops, baseball or even GSB down the road. The game just went from a lot of fun to zero fun due to the events of the past couple weeks..
 
152Wammie
      ID: 20039259
      Wed, Feb 07, 12:28
Hate so see you go whity, and I agree that it sucks that teams are dumping like this, but that was to be expected. I wish we could get the pay site underway so it would be more serious.
 
153Timing
      ID: 590262414
      Wed, Feb 07, 12:36
Don't get mad and go cause of this kinda junk. Every GSB league is a lame duck right now. As soon as we hit the pay site everything goes back to what it's supposed to be.

Like I said before, I'd be more than willing to distribute my players and prospects around the league to strengthen teams if yall want. If every league is loading up like this yall might as well do it also.
 
154Whitey
      ID: 2543539
      Wed, Feb 07, 12:45
Timing, I might very well be back in GSB down the road. I am leaving the door open. I just don't want to "waste" time with this stuff right now.

For what it's worth, I hope somebody other than the Dodgers wins the Series this season...
 
155worm
      ID: 50144712
      Wed, Feb 07, 12:45
bye whitey
 
156Whitey
      ID: 2543539
      Wed, Feb 07, 12:58
One more thing, if any or all of you are interested in forming a division for SW Baseball, Sandbox Fantasy Baseball or the ESPN fantasy baseball, I would be very interested in exploring that.

I think we have some very interesting personalities in our league (P2) and it might make for some fun if we had a division together. Just an idea, I'll be checking this board every once in a while
 
157Brock
      ID: 42542238
      Wed, Feb 07, 12:59
Later Whitey. I guess if you can't win, quit. That's a great attitude to have. Hard times bring out the best in people, and worst.

Also, have you been stealing from Wammie's stash? Bluma, by himself, is much more valuable than Wright and Crespo.
 
158Brock
      ID: 42542238
      Wed, Feb 07, 13:01
Whitey - one last thing, I wonder if you weren't given a great team if you would have ever won anything? It's a question for people to ponder.
 
159Brock
      ID: 42542238
      Wed, Feb 07, 13:02
Wammie and I both play SW Baseball.
 
160Purple Pimp
      ID: 91091619
      Wed, Feb 07, 13:09
What the hell is wrong with you Whitey? You start losing now so you leave? What a quiter. Look at my team for the past 5 years my team was just as good as yours and I didnt make it to the playoffs once, but now since the division is mine you leave? Thats a coward in my opinion and you can use all the excuses you want about how the leagues going to crap because of all the trades they dont work. Cowardness I tell you cowardness.
 
161Timing
      ID: 590262414
      Wed, Feb 07, 13:11
Whitey's in last place now also, I wonder if that has anything to do with his decision not to "waste" time with his team. Who knows...
 
162Purple Pimp
      ID: 91091619
      Wed, Feb 07, 13:13
On a lighter note... the dodgers are sending me trades for carmody that i wouldnt even accept for glavine... what an idiot..
 
163Whitey
      ID: 2543539
      Wed, Feb 07, 13:16
Good to see you all can understand my reasons for leaving... :(
 
164Brock
      ID: 42542238
      Wed, Feb 07, 13:18
PP - He was sending me the same type of trades for Bluma and Coquillette and I laughed at those. I can only imagine how you responded when he tried to get Carmody. I sent him an email telling him that he'll never win anything and that he and his split personality, Sanchez, should just quit while they're in first place because they won't be there for long.
 
165Brock
      ID: 42542238
      Wed, Feb 07, 13:21
Yeah Whitey, no guts or nuts.
 
166Whitey
      ID: 2543539
      Wed, Feb 07, 13:25
You guys are pretty ruthless, but I guess that's what made our league fun in the first place. Call me a quitter, a coward, whatever you want.

Just because I am not going to monitor my team for GSB, doesn't mean I won't still come in here and bust balls on worm, Brock and the usual suspects..
 
167Purple Pimp
      ID: 91091619
      Wed, Feb 07, 13:26
Whitey im sure your not a pussy, but i mean jeez what the hell is wrong with you? I would hate to lose you in this league.
 
168Timing
      ID: 590262414
      Wed, Feb 07, 13:31
If you'd explained yourself better we probably could understand better but when you say you're quitting cause you don't want to waste time with this game because of what's happened in the last few weeks. What the heck does that mean?

The only thing I see different is that you're in last place and other people are making trades that you don't like. Anyways, it's our communication, rivalries, and activity that sets us apart from most leagues, not who has how much talent or who wins the Series every year.
 
169worm
      ID: 50144712
      Wed, Feb 07, 13:42
how bout you stick around for one more night. just long enough to see my cubbies rip your cards in two! it would make a great ending to the whitey dynasty.
 
170Brock
      ID: 42542238
      Wed, Feb 07, 13:44
Timing has a good point Whitey. Why don't you break out the Norelco, trim that hair you have growing between your legs, and try to catch Worm so you don't finish in last place.
 
171worm
      ID: 50144712
      Wed, Feb 07, 13:51
he knows he doesnt have a chance so that is why he is getting out now. a sweep by me tonight will just make things worse for him. i remember a post last season i believe where someone made a comment that finishing below worm is like death. maybe it is true.
 
172Whitey
      ID: 2543539
      Wed, Feb 07, 13:52
I'm sure I'll hear about it in this thread. I won't even have to log into the site to find out what happened in the series worm....another point is once you get to a certain point in the season, the team could run on auto-pilot anyway (except for injuries) so it wouldn't even hurt my team if I didn't pay attention to it for a couple weeks..
 
173worm
      ID: 50144712
      Wed, Feb 07, 13:58
but still it isnt the same whitey.
 
174worm
      ID: 50144712
      Wed, Feb 07, 14:03
nice reply timing. why cant you be original on the grub worm thing. looks like it is just you and me now on the trash talking. i havent commented on your record lately. not that bad for someone who was projected to go to the world series.
 
175Timing
      ID: 590262414
      Wed, Feb 07, 14:06
At least I was projected to do something. You're always projected to suck and you never disappoint.
 
176Whitey
      ID: 2543539
      Wed, Feb 07, 14:10
I must admit, I am surprised at the start the Rangers got off to. There is still time for Timing to close the gap, but I think his team should be doing better based on the talent (hmmmm, sounds familiar)
 
177Whitey
      ID: 2543539
      Wed, Feb 07, 14:25
Let me try to elaborate on my thoughts. I have had an absolute blast playing this game from the beginning (yes, even when my team sucked for the first 3 seasons). I enjoy the unique features of this game as well as league aspect where you create rivalries and trash-talking buddies. I am just a little nervous about the direction that our league and others our heading.

For this reason, I would prefer a start-from -scratch league. I would love to see all of us from P2 join with some other dedicated GSB owners and form a fresh league.

To avoid being remembered as the a-hole that quit on the rest of the league, I would play out the remaining seasons of P2. Believe me, my intention wasn't to piss off an entire league. It was more of a personal decision.

I am not a quitter, have never been a quitter. I have been playing sports all my life and still do. That's part of the reason why I enjoy these fantasy or simulation games, the competitive nature of them. Many of you know that I am very competitive as are many of you. It's tough to understand someone's entire personality or motivation in life just from a message board so don't judge me based on my decision to leave the league. Like I said, I will finish out the remainder of seasons until it goes to a pay site..that was way too long of a post for this thread.... ;)
 
178Wammie
      ID: 20039259
      Wed, Feb 07, 14:26
That is fine if Whitey wants to leave. We don't want win or tie owners any way
 
179Purple Pimp
      ID: 91091619
      Wed, Feb 07, 14:28
Anyways, where does everyone stand on the merger thing? everyone dropping it or what? draft?
 
180Whitey
      ID: 2543539
      Wed, Feb 07, 14:33
Wammie - I tried to explain my thoughts a little more in post 177. What exactly do you mean by "win or tie owner" ?

Whitey
 
181Timing
      ID: 590262414
      Wed, Feb 07, 14:37
I thought we were all with the merger. At least it sure seemed that way. I guess Chiz can take Whitey's place if Whitey is bolting.

BTW, my Rangers have scored more runs that anyone in both leagues and even though my pitching has sucked royally so far it still has the 3rd best ERA in the AL. I started off with road games against the Royals, Orioles, and Yankees but I end up with a ton of home games so we'll see what happens between now and the end of the season.
 
182Brock
      ID: 42542238
      Wed, Feb 07, 14:40
Whitey - as everyone knows by now, Wammie has a crack problem. He often smokes it when he writes posts. You must forgive him. I understand why you were/are doing what your doing. Good luck in the future.
 
183Whitey
      ID: 2543539
      Wed, Feb 07, 14:42
Timing - I did not officially eliminate myself from the merger. I still want to be a part of another league with the guys from P2, I just wish it was a draft league. Don't we have a couple months left before it happens anyway?
 
184Brock
      ID: 42542238
      Wed, Feb 07, 14:46
I'm with the merger. The problem I have with the draft, TB brought this up I believe, is that if somebody doesn't rank their draft or they don't get the players they want, it would be easy for them to just quit. Then that team would most likely be sh!tty for a long time because no owner is going to want to pay to take over a bad team. By merging, the owners obviously have a team they're satisfied with and will continue to improve it, minus Worm of course.
 
185Brock
      ID: 42542238
      Wed, Feb 07, 14:47
From the way the commish talks about things, I would say the pay site will be implemented within a month or so.
 
186Timing
      ID: 590262414
      Wed, Feb 07, 14:51
Yeah I think the pay site is probably less than a month away. I seriously doubt we'll get in another full season after this one.
 
187Purple Pimp
      ID: 91091619
      Wed, Feb 07, 15:01
I just wanna start it all ready... Whitey i hope u stay with it you would be a great loss. Id miss you on these boards
 
188Wammie
      ID: 20039259
      Wed, Feb 07, 15:07
I am going to draft for sure. I will also be doing the merger if that is what we all decide to do. I think that the draft would be fine. The draft will just help ensure more even teams than what the league started off with from the start. it will help from teams like my Astros being compared and the Cubs. Sure, some people will draft better, but at least you will have a chance to not have such a sh!tty team as me. the one thing I wonder about the draft is contracts and such.

What is a win or tie owner, the same as a win or tie fan. Any fan(or owner) who cheers for their team if they are winning. They hate the team when they are losing, but as soon as the team is doing good, they are the biggest fans ever. The tie is added in there, because if the team is tied, they will still cheer. they only hate the loser.

I know some one out there has heard of this.
 
189Brock
      ID: 42542238
      Wed, Feb 07, 15:17
Whatever Wammie. You should be very familar with that phrase Mr. Chicago Bulls. Why do you constantly bring up the fact that you got dealt a bad team from the start? I think you are the only one that uses that as an excuse. I get sick and tired of seeing you write that. Your team was just as good as most of the others. Sure there were a few really good teams at the start(Royals and Cubs) but most of the others were equal. Face it, it took you a while to get the hang of the game. That's it.
 
190Wammie
      ID: 20039259
      Wed, Feb 07, 15:29
OK Brock look at it from that end, there won't be any free top notch teams in the league. if you want to have a top notch team from season 1, you have to do your homework on the draft a hell of a lot more than the other guys. The draft will be a lot more fair than if we all just started in a new league, and had the sim divide up the players as it did when we started p2. That is the point I am trying to make. Hell back then Sanchez won two WS with out even cheating.
 
191Brock
      ID: 42542238
      Wed, Feb 07, 15:35
I totally agree with you Wammie. What happens if owners quit after a season or 2? A draft league will be much more difficult to attract new owners to after it's started. That's the only bad thing I can see from it.
 
192Wammie
      ID: 20039259
      Wed, Feb 07, 15:39
A draft league would be no more difficult than a league that was just generated to attract new owners. Also, if people buy x number of seasons, they will play for that long.
 
193J
      ID: 50726110
      Wed, Feb 07, 15:52
My problem with a draft is this: I don't necessarilly have the time to do my homework on the draft. Drafting a whole franchise seems like a hell of alot of "homework"!!!

Also, I've put alot of time into this Mets thing and I dont wanna just throw that away.

If P2 stays together, I'll bring my Mets with me, if P2 goes for a draft, I'll just focus all my GSB energy on my V2 squad.
 
194Wammie
      ID: 20039259
      Wed, Feb 07, 16:01
I would hold off before saying I won't draft. No one knows how the commish will set it up. a new league may be the best thing since sliced bread. I am suprised that no one looks forward to starting fresh on a level playing field with everyone and seeing who the real managers are. All of the players in on your team would be players you made moves for. I think it will be a damn good time.
 
195Timing
      ID: 590262414
      Wed, Feb 07, 16:04
Do any of yall know how major league service time rules work? If a minor leaguer comes up and plays in one game does he get a full season of major league service? Doesn't sound right to me.
 
196Wammie
      ID: 20039259
      Wed, Feb 07, 16:15
I don't know the details, but I know that a guy can be called up during the expanded roster in the fall and it doesn't really count.
 
197Brock
      ID: 106282323
      Wed, Feb 07, 16:18
I think Timing is referring to the GSB rules for ML service. I believe if a playe plays one game, it's considered a year in GSB.

Wammie - I was comparing a draft league to a merge league you dolt.
 
198Wammie
      ID: 20039259
      Wed, Feb 07, 16:24
one game in GSB counts as a major league season in gsb.

Brock you commented about Draft vs assigned teams though. You should read my posts more clearly. Also, I doubt you even know the def. of a dolt.
 
199Timing
      ID: 590262414
      Wed, Feb 07, 16:27
No, I'm talkin about the majors. If a player is called up, plays one game and gets sent back to the minors does he get a full year of major league service? I know the rules of GSB but not sure about MLB. I think it would suck royally to have a player come up for one series in GSB and then get a full season's MLB service for playing one game out of 162.
 
200Brock
      ID: 106282323
      Wed, Feb 07, 16:47
dolt (dlt) n. A person regarded as stupid.

dolt \Dolt\, v. i. To behave foolishly.

aka Wammie

refer to post 184 numb nuts. I've known a lot of stupid people in my life but you are, by far, the most ignorant of all.
 
201Timing
      ID: 590262414
      Wed, Feb 07, 16:48
Well well, look who got swept today. The worm's Mariners... what a surprise!
 
202Brock
      ID: 106282323
      Wed, Feb 07, 16:50
In MLB, a player is not credited with a year of service for playing only one game. I'm not sure how many games they have to play obtain a year of service but I know it's more than 1.
 
203J
      ID: 50726110
      Wed, Feb 07, 16:56
sweet! Took 3 of 4 from Pimpster. Branyan went homerless!!!!

2-14; 9Ks...I guess thats what can happen to a guy with a 350AVG!
 
204Purple Pimp
      ID: 91091619
      Wed, Feb 07, 16:59
Lucky J :), consider it your last time holding the lead this year
 
205Timing
      ID: 590262414
      Wed, Feb 07, 17:55
OOPS! Another beatdown of V2 has commenced. I promise I didn't start it but it was just too easy to turn down.
 
206J
      ID: 50726110
      Wed, Feb 07, 18:05
The funny thing is Shacky is a new V2er!
 
207worm
      ID: 27132719
      Wed, Feb 07, 19:45
bluma 1-0, 8 ip, 9 hits, 3 earned runs, 5 k's as a cub,coquillette 7-14 also as a cub.....still a bad trade i wonder?
 
208TBRaiders
      ID: 26738619
      Wed, Feb 07, 22:56
I don't want to be included on this "Taking advantage of the Dodgers" situation. I accepted a trade offer from him well before he sent out that bogus email saying what he was doing. The real life Yankees go out and buy championships all the time. I won't keep breaking down the trade but two of the players he traded to me for Magee were NL signees. The guy didn't have a whole bunch invested in them.

Whitey,

First off, you are not quitting. We can chat offline but we had this talk a long time ago. If you really consider yourself competitive then prove it. Go rebuild your crusty ass, old team of lifetime overachievers!

;)

Secondly, you are about the hardest headed person when it comes to trades. You look at everything from what value that player would be to your team. You have to look at what the traded players value might be to the losing team. Back in seasons 3-6 I traded a crapload of OF prospects because I had so many. That is what is wonderful about a trade. Your players mean more to my team then they do to yours and mine mean more to your team than they do mine.

Nobody, and I mean nobody, makes trades unless they feel it benefits their team. Like the Padres and Cubs trade. I thought it was very fair. The Padres are obviously done for the year. Step back, reload, and kick butt next year. The Cubs needed a stud pitcher and his stud 1B wouldn't resign with him. He also upgraded at 2B.

Neither of us is judge and jury for other teams trades. Timing said this back in season 5 or 6, "It's like judging women. You might think she is a babe and I think she is a dog"
Well, he said something like that and then went on to say Randy Brown has a nice ass.......lol.

Try not to log onto this thread for a couple days or don't log into team. I know you didn't set your draft card and you sure won't sign on tomorrow to sign them players so they can start improving.

Go get an ice cream cone, or better yet, go get laid. Then get back in here and plan for next year.

TB
 
209TBRaiders
      ID: 26738619
      Sat, Feb 10, 22:09
Butt


Just getting these threads together.
 
210 Tina
      ID: 773731
      Wed, Aug 03, 2011, 02:37
Check that off the list of thigns I was confused about.