| Posted by: Rogue's Strikers
- [24540291] Mon, Jul 23, 20:22
I just signed up GSB today (this stuff looks really cool) and I got LA in League E. (I mentioned I was a Gurupie, so I guess he put me in with u guys.) My inbox has a few E-mails from teams that were obviously dealing with the previous owner, and I don't want to take someone's team from them. Did they quit? Or just not pay on time? |
| 1 | Big Poo Generator
ID: 57844423 Mon, Jul 23, 22:49
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Coach Avent was the original owner, but a few days ago it was taken over by a guy named Adam. I don't know what happened to him. Maybe he didn't pay. He said he was a veteran GSB player.
If you're staying, welcome to league E! Everyone in this league is very experienced at GSB, so you'd be wise to be very cautious in making any trades right away (at least until you figure things out a bit). Good luck!
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| 2 | Timing
ID: 286591511 Mon, Jul 23, 22:51
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Adam was a moderator sent from the test league. That bastard signed all of the best NL'ers. lol
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| 3 | TBRaiders Donor
ID: 56426320 Mon, Jul 23, 22:53
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He quit and then there was a moderator who just spent 100 million of your dollars on Northern Leaguers.
We chat in the thread right next to this one.
Have you played this before? If not, I suggest you read the help section. Protect your players on the 40 man roster, set your line-ups, make a copy of your rosters and watch your player growth. You are not going to compete this year so sit back and watch how the game plays out.
TB
ps. As soon as the masses realize you are "new meat" expect a trade offer or two....lol.
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| 4 | Rogue's Strikers
ID: 24540291 Mon, Jul 23, 23:35
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Yep, I'm staying. :) I'm new to GSB but not to Fantasy Baseball. I've read the help section and I have a fairly decent idea of how things work, but obviously I'm newbie stuff. I'll be looking over everyone's teams to get a better idea of what works.
P.S. I always remember anyone who screws me over, so if I get taken on a deal let me know. (Not that I'll be making deals right away.) If someone does take me for a ride I assure you guys it will be the one and only time. ;)
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| 5 | Wammie
ID: 20039259 Tue, Jul 24, 10:13
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too bad adam was a dumb ass and spent so much of your money on nlers. I would not make any trades if i were you for a while. wait until you figure out how everything works. just so you know, a hitting prospect who doesn't have 4 star average is close to worthless. so when you are setting your draft, don't draft a 3 star hitter 4 star homer, 4 star gap and high speed as your first overall pick.
good luck to ya rogue's strikers. if you need any help, don't hesitate to ask the people in the league. most of them will be pretty helpfull. you don't Whitey's advice though, look at his team. you dont' want to end up like that do ya!
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| 6 | Whitey Sustainer
ID: 2543539 Tue, Jul 24, 10:18
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dick
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| 7 | J Sustainer
ID: 50726110 Tue, Jul 24, 10:26
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woah! you said dick!
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| 8 | Rogue's Strikers
ID: 24540291 Tue, Jul 24, 10:30
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Hey Hey! None of that in my thread! Dick.
;)
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| 9 | TBRaiders Donor
ID: 56426320 Tue, Jul 24, 12:08
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Very funny Wammie!!!! Dick....lol.
Good call on the draft except some of us value hitters a little different. As far as hitters go, I rate all the 4-4 hitters first. Position, age and speed dictating their specific order. Next come all the 4-3 hitters. Then come all the 4 star average above 400 speed guys. Then I usually put all the 3-4 types. A 4-1-1 below 400 speed prospect is worthless unless his average gets above 490. I will sign those guys when I draft them, but nobody trades for them and they are the first to get cut when I get tired of paying fines.
I rate great pitching prospects above great hitting prospects. They have much more trade value yet 75% of the teams in here will draft a 4-4 OF or Catcher before a 450 FB 3-4-4 RP.
Sub 350 fastball on a pitcher pretty much sucks. Don't be dazzled by a 4-4-4 pitcher with a 298 fastball. Even if he maxes all his other stats and becomes a 298-499-499-499 pitcher he is still only a 1795 pitcher. The odds of him maxing all those stats are pretty slim. I only draft a 350-400 pitcher with at least 10 stars. I would rather draft a 490 fastball 1-2-4 pitcher. If that one-rating can get to a 350, there is a good chance that the 2 and 4 star cats can both get over 400.
Even then, I wouldn't rate that guy until after all the 4 star average 400+ speed guys were drafted. All 11 and 12 star pitching prospects with a 350+ Fastball are rated above hitters on my draft board. Even some 10 star guys if they have a high fastball(at least over 450) and 3-3-4 stars or 4-2-4 or 2-4-4. Control is an important pitching stat. Then the 4-4 and 4-3 hitters. More good pitching prospects. The 4 star fast guys, more pitching, the 3-4 hitters and 4-1-1 and 4-1-2 slow slappers, then the end of my draft is just pitching that I might or might not sign.
I have developed a 2-2-3 pitcher with a 499 fastball. Three of his 4 cats all went over 400. I just traded for Burroughs and he is an OF who had 3-2-1 stars. His average maxed out at 493.
It is great to develop prospects, but in my mind they are all trade bait. The more stars they have the better chance there is that they develop higher ratings.
Last thing I will say is this. If prospects look identical, I will rate SS and 2B above the others, then 1B and 3B, then OF and lastly catchers. You can play players out of position in this game. Catcher is almost like another DH slot. You can always find outfielders in this game.
Heck, I just cut Cahill (475-423-462-334)who must have at least a .350 lifetime OBP. The guy just doesn't get playing time for me. I probably could have traded him in any other league but some teams don't seem to mind losing season after season and pick guys up like this when they can.
I am happy that someone bid on him, though. No need to pay a salary for a player I am not using. I would have traded him for a 250K offer, just to lose the salary. I guess saving 200K was that important...lol.
TB
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| 10 | Wammie
ID: 20039259 Tue, Jul 24, 12:26
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damn whitey, i was just messin' with ya!
i agree tb with most of what you said on rating the draft. i didn't feel like writing up a huge column about draft strategy, but you did a good job.
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| 11 | Whitey Sustainer
ID: 2543539 Tue, Jul 24, 12:36
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I know Wammie...you just like to throw out a random slam at me to get my blood boiling!!!
It didn't work this time...dick
The GSB Gods are evil...my team is off to a decent 9-7 start and last night the frickin roof caves in and I go 2-7. My team isn't as bad as 11-14....I hope we start to win some games soon
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| 12 | Big Poo Generator
ID: 14857812 Tue, Jul 24, 12:47
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This must be the first time San Fran has been out of first place in a long time, maybe ever. I should save the standings page.
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| 13 | Wammie
ID: 20039259 Tue, Jul 24, 12:59
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Whitey, Brock has taken it easy on your for months, so i thought I should get a shot in on you. you have had smooth sailing for a while now.
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| 14 | Whitey Sustainer
ID: 2543539 Tue, Jul 24, 13:11
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Brock and I have this AL East thing going on...we have to make sure our division remains the toughest, most competitive division in League E....just look what Baltimore is doing this season after sucking last year. (I know it's early)
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| 15 | Brock Donor
ID: 371582223 Tue, Jul 24, 13:13
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It sucks that you are in the East Whitey. You will never have a chance at winning the division for 3-5 more years. If you were in the West or Central you could probably take a title or 2.
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| 16 | Whitey Sustainer
ID: 2543539 Tue, Jul 24, 13:23
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I haven't checked, but is Baltimore that much improved or is it a fluke??
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| 17 | J Sustainer
ID: 50726110 Tue, Jul 24, 13:31
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There are way too many flukes lately. Look at Montreal's record...and look at mine!!!!!!
I hate this game.
(Have we always been able to say dick?????)
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| 19 | Wammie
ID: 20039259 Tue, Jul 24, 13:49
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I thought you were the expert on cock Whitey. That is what Sackchin told me.
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| 20 | Sachin
ID: 28628514 Tue, Jul 24, 13:52
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Yeah, but I heard it from Worm, who I guess is now an expert himself.
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| 22 | Timing
ID: 286591511 Tue, Jul 24, 13:58
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There should just be a block on Whitey, that would take care of all the stupid phrases.
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| 23 | Wammie
ID: 20039259 Tue, Jul 24, 14:05
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LOL Timing.
Sachin, I believe that worm would have told ya, because who knows what happened over the fourth in jail.
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| 24 | Sachin
ID: 28628514 Tue, Jul 24, 14:23
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Man, I sure as hell don't want to know what happened to him in jail, especially if he was wrecked.
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| 25 | J Sustainer
ID: 50726110 Tue, Jul 24, 14:29
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hmmmmmmmmm, no more 5yr $3.75mil contracts. Try working out 5yr deals for the guys with low MLB experience...
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| 26 | Whitey Sustainer
ID: 2543539 Tue, Jul 24, 14:32
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I removed posts 18 and 21 just for you, Timing....dick
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| 27 | Big Poo Generator
ID: 14857812 Tue, Jul 24, 14:58
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J- are you sure? I can still sign Tommy Grigsby at 5 yrs, 3.8 mil.
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| 28 | J Sustainer
ID: 50726110 Tue, Jul 24, 15:09
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I have 3 rookies: Nino Levan 5 $4,820,000 Michael Riley 5 $9,040,000 Gene Albrecht 5 $13,630,000 2 years MLB: Carlos Baerga 5 $5,490,000 3 years MLB: Ronnie Belliard 5 $3,900,000
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| 29 | Big Poo Generator
ID: 14857812 Tue, Jul 24, 15:14
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J, do those numbers seem higher than in the past? I haven't noticed any change.
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| 30 | J Sustainer
ID: 50726110 Tue, Jul 24, 15:15
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I'm gonna be getting slaughtered in my other league:
Rookies: Sherman Herring 1B (489 268 329 267) 5 $3,750,000 (so it still exists)
1 yr MLB: Astyanax Farrell 2B (486 431 349 411) 5 $25,420,000 Bill Cashion OF (498 460 463 339) 5 $42,640,000
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| 31 | J Sustainer
ID: 50726110 Tue, Jul 24, 15:15
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THOSE numbers seem ALOT higher than in the past!
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| 32 | Brock Donor
ID: 26328214 Tue, Jul 24, 15:40
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Those numbers are normal for this league. Salaries are based solely on ratings. The higher the ratings, the higher the salary. We've been bitching about this for 3 seasons now.
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| 33 | Wammie
ID: 20039259 Tue, Jul 24, 16:01
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Those look like they were a couple seasons ago. then it seemed like the commish might have fixed it back. now he is back to the old contract status. damn rat bastard.
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| 34 | Brock Donor
ID: 26328214 Tue, Jul 24, 16:11
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The commish didn't change it and then change back. It was just guys with 1 or 2 mid 200's categories weren't costing as much. A 400-400-400-400 hitter costs much more than a 495-250-250-495.
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| 35 | J Sustainer
ID: 50726110 Tue, Jul 24, 16:14
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I signed a 499-472-270-440 guy to a 5yr 3.75mil contract last season in B.
Now my 498 460 463 339 guy wants $9mil a year!!!
All I ask is for consistancy!
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| 36 | Timing
ID: 286591511 Tue, Jul 24, 16:28
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Nate and the Commish were discussing some glitches with League B salary demands last week. Apparently Nate had some stud pitchers who signed 5 year deals for 750k/year. You might want to talk to the Commish about it J.
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| 37 | TBRaiders Donor
ID: 56426320 Tue, Jul 24, 16:34
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And if he was a free agent, what would he get?
If we had true consistency, your other guy would have asked for a lot more.
Hey Rogue's Strikers, I made a trade with the moderator of your LA team. I owe you my first round draft pick. I was going to make him rate the first round to insure what he got. You can give me an idea of what you want but you being a newbie, I will rate my own draft
Or, I will give you the option of looking back in the transactions and seeing what our trade was. If you want to reverse the trade, I will do that. Hopefully not, I want to keep the 2B, but I will let you make the choice.
TB
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| 38 | Sanfran
ID: 27551820 Tue, Jul 24, 16:55
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Hey week 4 game 1, i beat down wurm by 20+ runs, had a neat little thing happen.
Lesher hit 2 grandsalms, in 2 consective innings. Thats got to be a record.
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| 39 | J Sustainer
ID: 50726110 Tue, Jul 24, 17:05
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Ok, the N.Y. Mets are seriously considering tearing down.
9 and f|_|cking 26 is ridiculous. I even beefed up this offseason!!!!!!!!!
Scott Forster RP 434 449 381 458 would be the first to get your hands on, but if I do decide to rebuild, everyone on my MLB roster will available.
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| 40 | Rogue's Strikers
ID: 24540291 Tue, Jul 24, 17:47
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Looking back on that deal TB I'd have to say that I'd rather have kept my 2B. However, a deal is a deal. Just like I can't send those players back to the Northern League and get my money back... ;)
For the draft pick I can say that top relief pitching is my prefered choice. You would know better than me what players are top notch so I'll let you decide.
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| 41 | Buchster
ID: 2134520 Tue, Jul 24, 18:07
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What the hell is going on with Montreal this season? Hell, I finished ahead of him last season and all of a sudden his team becomes a bunch of all-stars. Dick. :)
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| 42 | TBRaiders Donor
ID: 56426320 Tue, Jul 24, 18:16
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Glad you don't want to trade back.
I spoke with Adam and I have no doubts that you could afford all those Northern Leaguers. ;)
Funny that you say a good RP because that's what I usually end up with. Hopefully everyone will draft like they normally do and you will end up with one of the better ones.
TB aka Dick
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| 43 | Sanfran
ID: 27551820 Tue, Jul 24, 18:16
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Richard
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| 44 | TBRaiders Donor
ID: 56426320 Tue, Jul 24, 18:18
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Speaking of Richards, you should answer my instant messages once in a while, Dick.
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| 45 | Whitey Sustainer
ID: 2543539 Wed, Jul 25, 09:49
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Yeah, SanFran...don't be a dick...answer his IM's..
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| 46 | J Sustainer
ID: 50726110 Wed, Jul 25, 10:17
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N.Y. Mets team fire sale:
Eric Byrnes OF New York(N)(MLB) 28 499 389 338 428 John Mabry OF New York(N)(MLB) 29 498 390 336 257 Turner Ward OF New York(N)(MLB) 32 494 367 437 351 Cliff Quillen 1B New York(N)(MLB) 31 494 283 280 282 Sammy Mussina C New York(N)(MLB) 33 491 366 351 362 Carlos Baerga 2B New York(N)(MLB) 22 488 402 299 214 Gene Albrecht 3B New York(N)(MLB) 28 486 435 254 384 Jose Vizcaino SS New York(N)(MLB) 34 479 409 322 378 Nino Levan OF New York(N)(MLB) 30 478 408 262 254 Kevin Brunsberg C New York(N)(A) 25 474 267 259 371 Mark DeRosa SS New York(N)(MLB) 32 474 427 437 429 Ronnie Belliard 2B New York(N)(MLB) 32 470 354 333 228
Bryan Wolff RP New York(N)(MLB) 31 493 376 461 491 1821 Josh Fogg SP New York(N)(MLB) 32 449 377 457 442 1725 Scott Forster RP New York(N)(MLB) 35 434 449 381 458 1722 Stephen Nieman SP New York(N)(MLB) 32 467 386 479 383 1715 Freddie Jones SP New York(N)(MLB) 32 445 491 307 458 1701 Les Mccluskey SP New York(N)(MLB) 27 477 386 421 414 1698 Cotton Bennett SP New York(N)(MLB) 32 467 416 339 464 1686 Red Stenhouse SP New York(N)(MLB) 23 485 345 411 437 1678 Chuck McElroy RP New York(N)(MLB) 26 421 436 360 458 1675 Chris Cumberland RP New York(N)(MLB) 29 453 362 467 392 1674 Todd Thorn RP New York(N)(MLB) 27 499 310 403 443 1655 Michael Riley RP New York(N)(MLB) 22 331 495 429 388 1643 Scot Shields RP New York(N)(MLB) 32 446 313 467 404 1630
Extra bonus if you can explain why this team is 9-26!!!
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| 47 | Whitey Sustainer
ID: 2543539 Wed, Jul 25, 10:38
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J - Normally the simulator "corrects" itself as the season goes on....I wouldn't be surprised if you found your team right on the heals of Montreal by the end of the season (if you keep the team together).
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| 48 | J Sustainer
ID: 50726110 Wed, Jul 25, 10:41
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When was the last time a team came back from a 17gm deficit at any point of any season???
Besides, I'm gonna have alot less computer time for a while starting this weekend, and its alot easier to deal with GSB when your team sucks!!!!
I'm keeping my B team together, since they're going for a threepeat, so, it'll be nice to have a rebuilder and a winner! AND I already like my farm, so I wont be down for too long.
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| 49 | Wammie
ID: 20039259 Wed, Jul 25, 10:57
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J, your team has been getting roughed up a bit too much. much like the real Mets. It is too bad that it has happened to your team, but some times it is good to see underachievers. too bad you team is underachieving as much as montreal is over.
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| 50 | TBRaiders Donor
ID: 56426320 Thu, Jul 26, 00:03
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Nobody has talked about the draft yet, but we have another weak year for starting pitching. Plenty of good relief pitching prospects but only a couple starting pitchers. They just get more and more valueable each year.
Overall, I think this might be the worse pitching crop yet. I know I only have maybe 30 pitchers rated before the 4-1-1 slappers and that is pretty bad.
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| 51 | Big Poo Generator
ID: 57844423 Thu, Jul 26, 00:25
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Actually TB, I think the pitching looks a lot better than the hitting in this draft. In fact, I think this might be the best draft ever for pitchers, at least for the top 20 pitchers, but it's definitely the worst ever for hitters.
Some people mentioned that they were going to save their draft sheets. If you do, send them to me right after the draft so I can use them when I do my draft analysis.
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| 52 | Rogue's Strikers
ID: 24540291 Thu, Jul 26, 01:18
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lol, I need hitting prospects so for the first time ever we have a weak hitter's pool. Gotta love it. ;)
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| 53 | Purple Pimp
ID: 27633140 Thu, Jul 26, 20:39
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Anyone looking for Hollins..I would need an even or better 3b in return..
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| 54 | TBRaiders Donor
ID: 56426320 Thu, Jul 26, 21:17
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I have a lot of RP rated high but not many SP. Hitting might be weak, but I have roughly 38 pitchers rated above the slowest and oldest 4-1-1 and 3-4-1 hitter out there.
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| 55 | Big Poo Generator
ID: 57844423 Thu, Jul 26, 22:45
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TB, you may be right. I'm just going off my first grouping, in which I have twice as many pitchers as hitters. More RPs than SPs, but I think the number of 1st-round quality SPs is higher than in past drafts.
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| 56 | Rogue's Strikers
ID: 24540291 Thu, Jul 26, 23:07
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I have a couple of questions.
1) If I send a player from AAA to AA, will it hurt his growth? (Just for organisational purposes I'd rather put my gaining guys in AA, but not if a demotion will hurt them.)
2) At what age do players start declining in skills? Is it a set age or more of a 32-35 type thing?
Thanks guys.
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| 57 | J Sustainer
ID: 34451212 Thu, Jul 26, 23:41
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1) no, players will gain no matter where they are (even in the Northern Leagues!!!!) but, A, AA, AAA it makes no difference.
2) once they hit 34 they start declining
3) extra - once a player hits 30 they will no longer improve at all (you may have already known that one)
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| 58 | Purple Pimp
ID: 27633140 Fri, Jul 27, 02:31
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4) players improvement stop suddenly which is bullsh!t!!!!!!!!!!!! :). just venting with all the prospects that have been stoppping on me lately
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| 59 | Rogue's Strikers
ID: 24540291 Fri, Jul 27, 03:01
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Thanks guys. So if a guy is 29 he will still improve? Also, after 5 years Pro they stop improving too, right?
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| 60 | Wammie
ID: 20039259 Fri, Jul 27, 08:12
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players typically don't improve after 5 years of pro service, but sometimes they do. I have a couple guys who are improving right now in their 6th year pro.
if the players has not reached is max skills, and he is 29, he will continue to improve until he either maxes out, or reaches the ago of 30.
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| 61 | Big Poo Generator
ID: 57844423 Fri, Jul 27, 11:03
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I have had guys improve well into their 8th year pro (Brian Giles was one). Sometimes they stop in their 3rd or 4th year pro. You just never know.
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| 62 | TBRaiders Donor
ID: 56426320 Fri, Jul 27, 11:23
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Wow, I have never seen anyone still improving going into their 8th season. I have had players with 6 years pro/working on their seventh season still improving. I haven't seen that since the site change over, though. I have had some 5th year guys still improving but most quit after 3 or 4 seasons.
I am going in to tighten my draft at some point today, BPG, but I know I only have 22 pitchers in my first grouping. That grouping consists of all 4-4 and 4-3 hitters(except for a couple of slow 4-3 C and OF. Between grouping 2 and 3, which has the rest of all the 4 star hitters and 3-4 hitters, I have 16 more pitchers.
Part of that is probably me realizing I need to focus more on hitters in this year draft. After the 4-2-3 hitters I don't really care who I get anyways. Now that I have time, I will rate them but I have been getting burnt out rating drafts. Seeing how I usually only get a couple of those guys, I was tempted to not even rate those 50 or so and just let the luck of the draw give me a couple.
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| 63 | Big Poo Generator
ID: 14857812 Fri, Jul 27, 12:22
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I worked on the later groupings on my draft sheet and the pitching drops off badly after about the top 25 guys. One thing that seems to be lacking this year are the 9-star, 450 fastball pitchers that usually fill up my middle groupings. I have only two pitchers in my third grouping (which contains about 30 players).
It does get a bit tiresome rating all these players so I do it in small bits at different times. Otherwise I would go crazy. But I traded away a bunch of prospects this year so I have to spend more time ranking the later parts of the draft. I need to re-stock my minors.
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| 64 | Big Poo Generator
ID: 14857812 Fri, Jul 27, 12:25
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Giles was before the site change. He improved in both AVG and HR until more than halfway through his 8th season. I haven't seen anyone improve that long since the change.
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| 65 | Whitey Sustainer
ID: 2543539 Fri, Jul 27, 14:40
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I didn't get a chance to rate my draft yet....if I can't log in over the weekend I guess my #1 pick will be a 2-2-1 OF....I'm just letting you guys know in case it happens.
Maybe I should at least rank 15 guys
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| 66 | Wammie
ID: 20039259 Fri, Jul 27, 14:50
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Whitey, why are you posting on here then. it only takes 30 mins to ensure that you don't have a horrible draft. you won't have a great draft, but you will at least get a few decent prospects.
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| 67 | Whitey Sustainer
ID: 2543539 Fri, Jul 27, 14:54
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I just love your posts Wammie....I'm posting on here to avoid the comments like "why the heck didn't you rate your draft?"....I haven't had much free time this week nor motivation to do it..it's a chore
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| 68 | Whitey Sustainer
ID: 2543539 Fri, Jul 27, 16:19
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If I rate the players and put them in the 1, 2 and 3 buckets but don't rank within the groupings...will the simulator still know enough to pick first from grouping #1 until they are all taken?
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| 69 | TBRaiders Donor
ID: 56426320 Fri, Jul 27, 16:27
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It is a chore, but go at least group the damn players. I rated my pitchers and then just tossed the hitters into groupings. Got more time so I rated the hitters in groups one and two. I am going to rate the hitters in group 3 right now, but it will be half-a$$.
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| 70 | TBRaiders Donor
ID: 56426320 Fri, Jul 27, 16:29
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I should have refreshed. Yes, it will take players from grouping one until they have all been drafted then go to grouping two and so on.
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| 71 | Rogue's Strikers
ID: 24540291 Sat, Jul 28, 04:41
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I got another question: What is the deadline for having my draft order set? I've still got to my last two groups and I'm going to be away almost all day today, so my next available time is Sunday morning. Is the draft done first thing Sunday or is it run like the sims at around 5 PM?
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| 72 | J Sustainer
ID: 34451212 Sat, Jul 28, 08:08
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The draft will be anytime from 3pm-midnight tomorrow. (I seriously doubt it will happen before 5, I only remembering GSB simming once before 5. 3pm is just to be safe, I'm not entirely sure. I think you'd be fine as long as its done by 5....hmmmmm, maybe I should set mine?
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| 73 | Big Poo Generator
ID: 57844423 Mon, Jul 30, 00:40
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Just finished my draft analysis and it looks like everyone rated their draft this year. The picks followed my ratings very closely.
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