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| Posted by: MattG
- [37722615] Thu, Apr 18, 2002, 15:44
I'm going through the recruits, there really doesn't seem to be a whole lot that are worth too much trouble, I'm through about half, flagging the guys who are decent and I've gone through a few conf. without flagging anyone, including my own. Of course I'll go back through my own and see if I can find some role player that I can pickup, but besides that it looks like and OOC year for me... Am I the only one like this??? |
| | | 1 | Raz
ID: 35949280
Thu, Apr 18, 2002, 16:39
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Actually, I've been thinking the exact same thing. I've gone through a few conferences (including my own) and have found absolutely no one that jumps out at me. I guess this is just an off year for high schoolers...
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| | | 2 | MattG
ID: 37722615
Thu, Apr 18, 2002, 16:49
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I found one guy who is a +7 but no one else about like +4 who is decent, lots of 6'2" - 6'7" guys but no real tall guys or any that look PG worthy, which is what I need. I guess after last years great class, they knocked it down a little.
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| | | 3 | G Dogg
ID: 539522315
Thu, Apr 18, 2002, 18:00
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It's only been 2 games, guys. I haven't even looked outside my region yet. And I probably won't until after game 5. Remember, one bad or average game for these recruits and their stats will look like crap right now. Give them a few more games and I'm sure you'll see plenty of recruits that will have you salivating.
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| | | 4 | Chris
ID: 24910517
Thu, Apr 18, 2002, 18:37
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I never tend to go after the "lookers"(like the +7 you mentioned) anyway, as they attract too much attention, and as such, I've found plenty of players worth going after. Unfortunately, the only semi-decent player in my hometown is a PG, and I'm stocked there.
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| | | 5 | Raz
ID: 35949280
Thu, Apr 18, 2002, 21:39
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I haven't been paying attention to stats yet (obviously two games is not much to go on). I was more referring to their attributes. And of course I'm not declaring a state of emergency or anything, but compared to past seasons, I haven't found as many promising candidates. Of course, I don't plan on performing any recruiting actions until after next Wednesday (except for scheduling scrimmages), but I'll usually at least start looking around a little early. So hopefully some guys can surprise me.
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| | | 7 | Raz
ID: 35949280
Fri, Apr 19, 2002, 01:13
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Cool, thanks RSF. That will come in handy.
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| | | 8 | Toral
Sustainer
ID: 2311301516
Fri, Apr 19, 2002, 09:18
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When |I looked through my own conference, before seeing this thread, my impression was that it was the worst crop the conference had ever had.
Toral
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| | | 9 | beastiemiked
ID: 17414316
Fri, Apr 19, 2002, 11:29
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Remember, anyone in conf 2 that is decent will probably be maxed by me so if you're looking at someone in there tell me.
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| | | 10 | G Dogg
ID: 539522315
Fri, Apr 19, 2002, 12:02
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Thanks, RSF. How do I update this badboy next week after game 5?
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| | | 11 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 42121814
Fri, Apr 19, 2002, 14:15
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Well, I uploaded one with the macros in it a little while after that post, but can't recall the URL right now. I'll post it later.
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| | | 12 | MattG
ID: 37722615
Sat, Apr 20, 2002, 14:26
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J that was one heck of a game we just playing in preseason, two OT's and 3 Buzzer beaters to win.... I can't believe I blew a 15 point lead. My Frosh are playing how they should though, 2 guys with 20 points.
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| | | 13 | kev
ID: 15357192
Sat, Apr 20, 2002, 15:06
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Just a quick recruiting question from a newbie... (League 12)
I know it says picking in your conference helps in signing a recruit, but if you go OOC, does it matter how close the other region is to your region?
For Example- Im in Region 3- if a guy Im after is in Region 4, is he more likely to sign with me than a guy from Region 31? Just wondering.
Thanks.
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| | | 14 | J
Leader
ID: 49346417
Sat, Apr 20, 2002, 15:31
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yeah, I enjoyed that 15-0 run after halftime :)
The game didn't do much in helping me figure out my starting 5. I had a 6'9" guy as my PG, and he did pretty good, 8 assists, 3 TOs, 1 block. But, ideally, a 6'9" guy shouldn't be a PG! Seaman was my PG last year and had a great year, I'm just worried about TO's & defense. Seaman & Oschsner (6'9" guy) are my good hands guy, but Seaman doesn't believe in defense. I may still toy around with my squad this year, and I really need to land a guard or two wit this next recruiting class!!!!
Chris, lets trade! Too bad we cant force guys to transfer :)
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| | | 15 | Chris
ID: 24910517
Sat, Apr 20, 2002, 18:10
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yeah, I'd take Oschner off your hands in a second :)
kev, no, which conference it is has no effet, as long as it is OOC.
My team finished the exhibition season by winning all 3 games by an average margin of 22 points, winning all 3 by at least 19. I'm pumped, lets get this season started :)
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| | | 16 | MattG
ID: 37722615
Sun, Apr 21, 2002, 17:09
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This class is horrible, I found 4 guys who have +7 or better, only one has a +8 which I havent seen yet. I went through last week and Flagged all the recruits with good attributes that I would like. I found 34 Guys, then today I went through those guys and found 12 that have good Attributes and decent stats from hs, only one was from my conf so it looks like a lot of OOC bids for me... Hopefully I can find a few sleepers, anyone else have any insite?
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| | | 17 | VIDevilRays
ID: 463462117
Sun, Apr 21, 2002, 17:46
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I've gone through most of the regions-not all. Only thing I've noticed for sure is there are a lot less studs-like you said MattG. Looks like a good time to go for need.
Can't wait for the w/3-w/12's to come out!
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| | | 18 | Chris
ID: 24910517
Sun, Apr 21, 2002, 18:54
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I tend to only recruit role players(in the +3-4 range), so I don't see any problem with this year's crop. Only problem being, with less studs out there, there may be more people going after my role players.
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| | | 19 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 1924582
Sun, Apr 21, 2002, 23:09
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SSB_Recruiting.zip Excel Spreadsheet with Macros. I deal with Excel97 only, since Excel2000 is a slow, bloated pig when it comes to opening web pages.
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| | | 20 | MattG
ID: 37722615
Sun, Apr 21, 2002, 23:16
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guess i have to get Excel if i want to read these things huh?
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| | | 21 | kev
ID: 15357192
Mon, Apr 22, 2002, 00:25
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I tried loading it with Excel 2000, and when I went to get my recruits, it took me to some debug screen....oh well. A neat little thing if I can figure it out.
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| | | 22 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 1924582
Mon, Apr 22, 2002, 01:01
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I absolutlely cannot stand Excel2000, but I will see what mods need to be done to get it to work, if possible.
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| | | 23 | G Dogg
ID: 539522315
Tue, Apr 23, 2002, 13:51
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Excel 2000 here. As each day goes by, I wish I knew more about computers. I have no idea what any of this "debug" info means.
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| | | 24 | J
Leader
ID: 49346417
Tue, Apr 23, 2002, 13:56
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RSF - I'm getting hit with one of those survey's popping up after about the 15th recruit. It wont let me bypass it. It downloads the stats, but its not getting through the players' ratings.
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| | | 25 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 42121814
Tue, Apr 23, 2002, 14:05
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J, yeah, I fixed that last night in a new version (that works in XL97 and XL2000). I'll upload it tonight.
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| | | 26 | J
Leader
ID: 49346417
Tue, Apr 23, 2002, 14:58
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Thanks RSF!
Also, is there a way to have it just download the stats and not worry about the ratings? (since we only need them once)
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| | | 27 | J
Leader
ID: 49346417
Tue, Apr 23, 2002, 14:59
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although, it is a nice way to get a cheap activity point! :)
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| | | 28 | VIDevilRays
Leader
ID: 213472117
Wed, Apr 24, 2002, 10:02
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After going through the recruits looks like I will be staying in-conference (17). I'll pick a couple out of conference to see what happens but my needs can be met in conference.
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| | | 29 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 1924582
Wed, Apr 24, 2002, 17:04
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OK, this one works in XL97 and XL2000. If you are using XL2000, start it and go to a really long dinner and a movie.
It also allows to you just update Statistics after loading and saving Recruits and Attributes (good call J).
SSB_Recruiting 4.zip
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| | | 30 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 1924582
Wed, Apr 24, 2002, 17:06
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Also included Chris' rating system (COLUMN A)
This is:
None = 1
None+ = 2
Poor- = 3
Poor = 4
Poor+ = 5
Fair- = 6
Fair = 7
Fair+ = 8
Good- = 9
Good = 10
Good+ = 11
Exc- = 12
Exc = 13
Exc+ = 14
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| | | 31 | G Dogg
ID: 539522315
Wed, Apr 24, 2002, 17:26
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So, how do I use this? I tried to retrieve stats and whatnot and it told me it cannot access file and then gives me the option to end, debug or get help. Am I doing this incorrectly?
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| | | 32 | kev
ID: 15357192
Wed, Apr 24, 2002, 17:29
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I got the same type of thing...
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| | | 33 | Chris
ID: 24910517
Wed, Apr 24, 2002, 18:30
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RSF, I don't think recruits carry EXC, GOOD, FAIR, POOR, and NONE ratings...they only carry the +'s and -'s
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| | | 34 | G Dogg
ID: 539522315
Wed, Apr 24, 2002, 18:33
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Chris, do I need to do something in the setup prior to asking it to retrieve all the stuff? I know you are rather computer-savvy.
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| | | 35 | Chris
ID: 24910517
Wed, Apr 24, 2002, 18:38
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Sorry, I don't have or use Excel, so I'm really not sure how to fix whatever problem you have
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| | | 36 | G Dogg
ID: 539522315
Wed, Apr 24, 2002, 18:51
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Well, thanks anyway.
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| | | 37 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 42121814
Wed, Apr 24, 2002, 19:16
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Did you do the stuff on the SETUP page?
In cell B3, you need to paste the "Click here to RECRUIT" link's URL that is on the "Coach My Team" page.
If so, then, did you first off, run the "Retrieve Recruits, Attributes and Statistics" routine? You need to do this atleast once. It pulls all the players. The next time you want to update, then you will only need to run "Update Statistics Only".
Let me know.
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| | | 38 | G Dogg
ID: 539522315
Wed, Apr 24, 2002, 19:34
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I screwed up the first few times. I pasted it in cell A3, where you have the RECRUITING URL highlighted in yellow. I just pasted in cell B3 and it downloaded everything. Now, the only problem is that I isn't listing the attributes. It only retrieved the statistics. And, I know for sure I clicked on the right button.
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| | | 39 | G Dogg
ID: 539522315
Thu, Apr 25, 2002, 12:33
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OK, I got it to work, downloaded and everything. I went to save and fricking Excel generated errors and closed itself!
Oh well, I am going to do it again and wondered if I am able to work in other windows while the program does its thing or if I have to keep the Excel window at the front in order for this to work. Thanks in advance and thanks for doing this RSF. For the 20 seconds I had everything perfect, it was awesome.
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| | | 40 | Flying Polack
ID: 8345199
Thu, Apr 25, 2002, 12:55
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I got everything downloaded. Many thanks!!
You're right Excel 2000 does take forever. It downloaded the regions in about 5 minutes and I was thinking that was fast. Then it starts, Player 1 of 768, Player 2 of 768, etc., etc. . .
I left the house, came back an hour later and it was on Player 483 of 768. It finally finished about 30 minutes after that.
Thank you again RSF! This will be very, very helpful.
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| | | 41 | beastiemiked
ID: 17414316
Thu, Apr 25, 2002, 14:02
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Any chance anybody with a fast connection will send me an updated version?
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| | | 42 | kev
ID: 15357192
Thu, Apr 25, 2002, 14:06
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I sent the zipped version BMD- tell me if that is alright.
RSF- does this only work for Lg 4? I tried entering Lg 12 Recruits, and I couldnt get it to work
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| | | 43 | G Dogg
ID: 539522315
Thu, Apr 25, 2002, 14:11
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Generated errors again. At least this is teaching me persistence.
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| | | 44 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 42121814
Thu, Apr 25, 2002, 15:00
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kev, it should work in any league, as long as you paste the correct URL in the SETUP page. (I am not it League 4, but League 23).
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| | | 45 | G Dogg
ID: 539522315
Thu, Apr 25, 2002, 16:27
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Well, got it all done. Fantastic, thanks again, RSF!
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| | | 46 | beastiemiked
ID: 14821921
Thu, Apr 25, 2002, 18:37
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Kev, I wanted the updated version with stats through game 5 thanks though. I think you just sent me the spreadsheet without any players in it. If anyone wants to help a guy with a slow connection get recruits send it my way.
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| | | 47 | G Dogg
ID: 539522315
Thu, Apr 25, 2002, 18:51
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bmd, I'll send it.
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| | | 48 | G Dogg
ID: 539522315
Thu, Apr 25, 2002, 18:59
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Sent.
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| | | 49 | beastiemiked
ID: 14821921
Thu, Apr 25, 2002, 21:29
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Thanks a ton G. I tried to update it on my slow connection but got through like 10 players in 20 minutes...
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| | | 50 | G Dogg
ID: 539522315
Fri, Apr 26, 2002, 11:46
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Yeah, it takes a while. It took me about a half hour to do the whole thing with my T-1 line at work.
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| | | 51 | G Dogg
ID: 539522315
Fri, Apr 26, 2002, 13:46
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Twarpy, FYI...I'm maxing someone in your conference.
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| | | 52 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 42121814
Fri, Apr 26, 2002, 14:00
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On XL97 on a cable modem, it takes about 10 to 15 minutes.
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| | | 53 | Twarpy
Leader
ID: 23359202
Fri, Apr 26, 2002, 14:39
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G Dogg for your info F|_|CK You
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| | | 54 | G Dogg
ID: 539522315
Fri, Apr 26, 2002, 14:41
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Geez, that was a little harsh. I would bet money you weren't going to max this guy anyway.
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| | | 55 | Twarpy
Leader
ID: 23359202
Fri, Apr 26, 2002, 14:43
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Just joking with you, on a lighter note would anyone be willing to send me the updated lg 4 croots list, Im having massive troubles updating it.
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| | | 56 | Twarpy
Leader
ID: 23359202
Fri, Apr 26, 2002, 14:54
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G as long as its not Pape.
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| | | 57 | G Dogg
ID: 539522315
Fri, Apr 26, 2002, 14:54
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It's not. And here come the 'croots...
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| | | 58 | G Dogg
ID: 539522315
Fri, Apr 26, 2002, 15:00
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bmd, are you maxing Hope?
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| | | 59 | Twarpy
Leader
ID: 23359202
Fri, Apr 26, 2002, 15:22
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G you making Harris?
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| | | 60 | G Dogg
ID: 539522315
Fri, Apr 26, 2002, 15:30
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Ty? Nah, giving him 1 point.
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| | | 61 | G Dogg
ID: 539522315
Fri, Apr 26, 2002, 15:32
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Also, let me know if you are maxing him. I'll delete the actions on him and go for someone else.
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| | | 62 | Chris
ID: 24910517
Fri, Apr 26, 2002, 15:34
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Here's my 4, so stay away ;)
Prewitt(15), Lindberg(15), Smallwood(10), Kute(19)
and btw, I only gave Harris a scholarship.
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| | | 63 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 42121814
Fri, Apr 26, 2002, 15:39
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Prewitt? Man, that guy must be a stud!
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| | | 64 | G Dogg
ID: 539522315
Fri, Apr 26, 2002, 15:42
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My 4 (so far)... Larimore (8), Bland (22), Pike (24), Beasley (11). I am still thinking about dropping Pike, though. And I gave a point to Dohn from Ann Arbor.
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| | | 65 | Chris
ID: 24910517
Fri, Apr 26, 2002, 15:44
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Dohn is a huge scorer, I don't think a point will get him :)
I had a feeling you'd be on Pike. You have a magical way of winning those 12 way ties :)
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| | | 66 | RecycledSpinalFluid
ID: 42121814
Fri, Apr 26, 2002, 15:46
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How do you guys judge a player with good/excellent attributes but lower statistical production? Would you stay off that guy?
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| | | 67 | G Dogg
ID: 539522315
Fri, Apr 26, 2002, 15:46
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That was in my old days. I haven't won a tie more than a 1/1 HT since Pete Willis 5 seasons ago. I figure I'm due.
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| | | 68 | Chris
ID: 24910517
Fri, Apr 26, 2002, 15:53
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RSF, if he's EXC, I tend to ignore 5 games worth of stats as insignificant.
I find players like that tend to gravitate towards the stats you'd expect of them as the season progresses.
There are different schools of thought on stats/ratings vs scout. I've been burned too many times by high stats, low rated, poor scouts before, but others like KM and bmd have had huge success with them.
We all have our personal biases, so it's tough to say one way is "right", but that's the way I look at it.
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| | | 69 | VIDevilRays
Leader
ID: 22947267
Fri, Apr 26, 2002, 16:19
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So much for my one point on Lindberg:)
Also maxing Poole, Brock and Garner out of 17 and Ferrell out of 23.
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| | | 70 | G Dogg
ID: 539522315
Fri, Apr 26, 2002, 17:09
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No, it's pretty easy. My way is right. :)
Truth be told, I look almost exclusively at stats. Of course, if I have a guy in my region with great atts and average stats, I'll give him a strong look, but on the whole, the first and most important factor for a recruit for me is stats.
The caveat to this is that you can't bank on the guys with the great stats and poor atts being great. Which is why, if you recruit the way I do, you need to get as many leads as possible to ensure that you get the best recruits possible (that aren't crappy). Also, if you do this, it's best not to give priority points because you are banking on the atts changing and there is no way to know which ones are going to change.
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| | | 71 | G Dogg
ID: 539522315
Fri, Apr 26, 2002, 18:38
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Instructions have been pulled. It's now official...I am maxing Pike. I think I am going to go throw up now.
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| | | 72 | Raz
ID: 35949280
Fri, Apr 26, 2002, 19:17
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Like G Dogg, I seem to tend to go with stats more than attributes, but along with that I also take into heavy consideration performances in the 2 in-conference scrimmages I schedule before recruits are due, especially for a stat like FG%, which is somewhat difficult to predict from anywhere else.
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| | | 73 | Raz
ID: 35949280
Fri, Apr 26, 2002, 19:21
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Oh, and I know no one cares, but with 2 of the teams in my conference becoming computer-controlled this season, I'm hoping in-conference recruiting will be a tad easier, so that's where I'm focusing my efforts. My 4 maxes:
Hartley (6), Vowels (6), Danahy (6), and my lone OOC, Clayton (25) (I want an exc shooter!)
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| | | 74 | J
Leader
ID: 49346417
Fri, Apr 26, 2002, 19:41
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I couldn't really find 4 guys to max, hell, couldn't even find 3, so I started out by giving 2 maxes and a couple of 9s and a bunch of 1's
my 2 maxes:
Eric Trowell (4)
Benny Leslie (29) damn you KM, I need him more than you!!!!
My 9's:
Edrick Truitt (29)
Baron Dobbs (1)
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| | | 75 | Buchster
ID: 313732
Mon, Apr 29, 2002, 23:19
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I was wondering if you guys knew if it was still possible to name highschool recruits if you win the NTT. I ask because my team in league 16 is in the final four and I can't find any info on the site about naming recruits other than paying for them.
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| | | 76 | G Dogg
ID: 539522315
Tue, Apr 30, 2002, 12:12
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Yes, buchster, you can. Simply email p6k the recruit names and let him know that you are in the final four. Otherwise, if you win, he will just give your team credits. You can email him at pick6king@simulatedsports.com.
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| | | 77 | Buchster
ID: 313732
Tue, Apr 30, 2002, 12:18
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Thanks.
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| | | 78 | G Dogg
ID: 539522315
Tue, Apr 30, 2002, 13:15
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You're welcome.
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| | | 79 | Matt G
ID: 53563013
Tue, Apr 30, 2002, 14:03
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Wow, my team is bad. My starters are all solid, but I have no one to back them up. 3 of my starters are Frosh and 2 are Jr, so hopefully i get 3 solid recruits and i can have a decent team next year.. but anyhow here are my starters this year...
PG 12.2PPG 4.8AST
SG 10.2 PPG 3BRDS FROSH
SF 7.5 PPG 3BRDS 2 AST
PF 18.8PPG 5BRDS FROSH
C 11PPG 10Brds 2AST FROSH
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| | | 80 | J
ID: 56352917
Tue, Apr 30, 2002, 15:34
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Matt - you're starters do look pretty good.
Here's my team, as you can see, only 2 guys playing well:
Seaman, So. - 31.2 PPG, 2.2 APG, 1.8 TO, 1.2 SPG, 53.3 Sh%
Jesse, Jr. - 10.2 PPG, 1.5 APG, 2.5 TO, 1.5 SPG
Ochsner, Fr - 2.0 PPG, 5.5 RPG, 3.8 APG, 0.5 TO, 1.2 SPG, 18.2% shooting :)
Beatty - Fr - 5.0 PPG, 6.8 RPG, 3.0 APG, 1.2 TO, 6 Blocks
Bailey - So - 13.5 PPG, 9.8 RPG, 1.5 TO, 3 blocks.
I know its early, but I like stats! My Forwards have better A to TO ratio than my guards!!! Too bad Ochsner is 6'9" I'd really like him at PG.
2-2 so far on the year, with 2 straight wins. Bailey just came off an 18 pt, 18 board performance. Seaman has 78 points in the last 2 games. Bring on the Schlomoes!!!!
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| | | 81 | blue hen, almighty
ID: 473133021
Wed, May 01, 2002, 13:32
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The Mighty Roosters are struggling at 2-2. More importantly, we're getting KILLED on the glass. So I messed with the lineup a bit, but who knows what will happen. We got 46 boards in an exhibition game, but were pounded twice in a row in the last two games.
I'm on Poole too, and from the look of things, it's going to be a 13 or 14 way tie. Two of my maxes are pretty "safe" I'd like to think, although I wish they had a little more talent.
I might just give that Prewitt guy a point, just for his name. Hell, if Baloo Henn can be all conference...
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| | | 82 | kev
ID: 15357192
Thu, May 02, 2002, 07:15
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Just wondering if anyone off hand can recall the most points they have scored in a half?
My team (ranked 17th) played the 246th ranked team, and I was up 78-34 at half.
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| | | 83 | Chris
ID: 24910517
Thu, May 02, 2002, 21:23
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I can't remember seeing any more than that kev.
On the opposite end of the spectrum, I've held a team to 9 in a half and 21 in a game...good times :)
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