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| Posted by: Kyle
- Donor [052753312] Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 12:16
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Coaches Corner
Just for Housekeeping.
First games Saturday.
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| | | 1 | GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 12:24
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I haven't created anybody new since I've been waiting to find out what we need.
Will do the backup RB now if you want.
Cliff
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| | | 2 | dpr
ID: 1733917
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 12:24
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kyle let me know wen our depth chart is completed (at least offensively) so i can figure out strengths and weaknesses for us at least.
Did we come up with a team decision or recommnedation of when to boost? I am leaning early season personally but if we decide to hold off I can do that too
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| | | 3 | JTSERB
Donor
ID: 481020120
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 12:33
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Home from work now, Gathering all our player data and putting it on a spreadsheet. Will send out to all staff members so our info is easily accessible.
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| | | 4 | Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 12:33
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dpr we have all of the offensive starters in place. I believe the backups are good too. Feel free to let me know if we need to make changes.
Cliff, if you want plenty of playtime make a corner. We don't have a true nickle corner yet. But we also need a backup RB so, do what you feel is best.
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| | | 5 | Little M
ID: 381111416
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 12:35
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I think it is better for the team and the player to boost as late as possible, providing we are winning. I plan to take it on a game by game basis. If the players accross from me are at the same or a lower level, I will not boost. However, if they are level 7 and I am level 4, then I will consider boosting prior to the game.
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| | | 6 | Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 12:40
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DPR, please let me know if we have a surplus of O players at a position. I want to cut as much loose weight from the team as I can.
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| | | 8 | dpr
ID: 1733917
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 12:47
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are you asking about CPU players or how do we intend to use them?
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| | | 9 | Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 12:52
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I am asking about CPU players, I don't want to cut a Gurupie
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| | | 10 | dpr
ID: 1733917
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 12:55
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Well to be honest I am not quite sure how much stamina is needed to play positions and cover all our snaps so maybe it is best to wait til after a game to decide if they are needed. Right now we have the stamina settings up really high so probably need a lot of depth. We could prob lower these without risk not giving playing time to gurupies on bench as we dont have many in that position and many are alts. anyways. With low salaries 2-3 extra days paying cpus wont kill us but ill look into it a bit
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| | | 12 | Little M
ID: 381111416
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 13:01
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dpr, if you cut players after the start of the season, it affects the teams chemistry rating, so if there are obvious cuts, I would make them now. As a suggestion (not that you asked), I would look at cutting all of the level 1 CPU's and only keep them if there was a good reason.
I made a comment and asked a question about the sub-in/sub-out ratios on the GLB forum board.
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| | | 13 | dpr
ID: 1733917
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 13:03
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Alright does look like there are a few extra tho.
At FB we have a CPU backup. if we are going to make our backup running back also back up at FB then this isnt needed otherwise good to keep to be safe.
At O-Line we have 2 human backups and 7 CPUs. Maybe cut 4 CPUs at first and then potentially add to that later after we see games shake out
At TE we have 3 tightends so we can certainly cut the CPU.
At WR we have 4 humans and 2 CPUs. Not sure our options for having WRs on the field but we should cut at least one of these guys
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| | | 14 | Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 13:03
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Nice find C1-NRB. It looks like our passing game is pretty weak. We should probably be a ball control team from the looks of it.
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| | | 15 | dpr
ID: 1733917
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 13:06
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i missed little Ms point wen I made my post so i may ahve been a little conservative. potentially cut another OL and both WRs. This leaves our only CPUs being depth on our O-line as we have 7 humans only and potentially at FB if our HB cant back up there
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| | | 16 | Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 13:11
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Our HB can backup the FB and the HB. That shouldn't be a problem. I've cut 3 OL, 1 TE, 1 WR so far, should I cut more?
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| | | 17 | Little M
ID: 381111416
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 13:14
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From what I have read, you do not need as much depth at FB, because he comes out when you go to 3 or 4 WR. Depth from a HB or TE might be sufficient.
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| | | 18 | dpr
ID: 1733917
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 13:17
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That seems good. I had said to cut anothe WR but if we frequently use a 3 or 4 WR set then likely good idea to keep 5.
Cut the FB wen we get our backup RB
That still gives us 11 O-line. Will that many play. Since we have 3 tightends would they be feasible players here?
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| | | 19 | dpr
ID: 1733917
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 13:29
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I am a little worried about our stamina actually as we have many players who do not meet the level 2 requirement as listed by a post from JT in our first thread and copied from forums. Our halfback, fullback, 3 of our starting OL and 2 WR are below these limits. No players have met ther level 5 standard yet and will need a few points to get there. I am not sure how this will effect us but I think it would have us going very deep nto our bench with 80/95 settings
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| | | 21 | wiggs
Sustainer
ID: 04991311
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 13:41
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Kyle, I just got an email saying I was no longer the GM of the BJs. Whats up?
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| | | 22 | Frick
ID: 23117516
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 13:42
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Could you repost the stamina requirements from JT's post? I missed it and can't seem to find it. I'm curious if my T is one of the 3.
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| | | 23 | Tree
ID: 3533298
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 13:52
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if you have too many human players, we can certainly take them on on the B squad. if you cancel a contract, what happens?
or, we could trade a CPU player of similar value for a human player to try and ensure as much playing time as possible for humans...
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| | | 24 | wiggs
Sustainer
ID: 04991311
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 13:54
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The rotoguru B team is gone, I tried to send out a trade today and it told me if I sent it I would not be able to sell the team back. I have no interest in trying to run 2 teams so I sold the 1 back.
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| | | 25 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 14:24
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So what else do we need?
Just by looking at our roster and skipping CPU players:
QB: 2
RB: 1
FB: 1
C: 2
OG: 2
OT: 3
TE: 3
WR: 4
DT: 3
DE: 3
LB: 5
CB: 3
FS: 2
SS: 0
K: 1
P: 1
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| | | 26 | Little M
ID: 381111416
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 14:28
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Frick, these are the suggested stamina levels on the Guide to Creating Players thread.
Stamina
Stamina is crucial for any player. It doesn’t matter how good your player is if he is warming the bench. Furthermore, you get XP based on how many plays you play, not what you do during them. So being on the field is key. Here are some specific guidelines:
Offensive players - these do not tire as quickly as defensive players.
QB
Level 1 - 14
Level 2 - 17
Level 5 - 21
Level 10 - 25
etc.
WR, TE, O-linemen
Level 1 - 16
Level 2 - 19
Level 5 - 25
Level 10 - 30
etc.
Defensive players and HB - they tire easily so they need a little more.
Level 1 - 16
Level 2 - 20
Level 5 - 26
Level 10- 32
etc.
Punters and Kickers - these do not tire much at all so they do not need as much stamina.
Level 1 - 8
Level 2 - 8
Level 3 - 9
Level 4 - 10
Level 5 - 11
etc.
All these numbers can be adjusted about a point or two, but if you have, for example, a level 2 C with stamina 30 that is probably a waste at that level.
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| | | 27 | Tree
ID: 3533298
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 14:28
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The rotoguru B team is gone
i don't think you've been reading all the threads. i realize there's a ton of posts.
weykool and i are running a team to get rotoguru players experience. a bit of a farm team, if you will.
RGB Berzerk
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| | | 28 | JTSERB
Donor
ID: 481020120
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 14:29
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We need
RB (Would like a bruiser so he can also play FB)
Corner
Safety (prefer strong saftey, but would not be starter)
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| | | 29 | barilko6
ID: 3732117
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 14:29
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My plan was to boost up as soon as I can, and use all the extra points on boosting my stamina.
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| | | 30 | JackHammers@work
ID: 44122616
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 14:30
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Ronnie Boozer has accepted a trade offer from the new Rotoguru franchise.
Momma Boozer (the only human bigger and meaner than Ronnie) was reached for comment at the Indianapolis airport. Sporting a new beehive hairdo, enourmous flowered housedress and double fisted meatball sandwiches, "my work here is done, I just had to slap some sense into him. YO GLASSWIPE!! Gimme another Pabst"
Ronnie has reported to camp and promises no more news or problems. He is with the other Linebackers, working on speed and stamina. "You aint gonna hear nuttin else outta me, I'll be out here maulin people"
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| | | 31 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 14:36
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Can someone update my post 25 and add to it what we'd need.
So, for CB, it'd say 3/4 (have 3, need 4 total)
And keep that updated as new players come on board. I'm working on recruiting a couple more gurupies possibly...
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| | | 32 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 14:39
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Looks like we need a SS.
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| | | 33 | sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 14:43
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how many "fantasy players", are we limited to as human players? I can build a SS and not post this guy to the forum, just post the link here. I did the other to the forum, to see what kinds of offers were being made, and just couldnt say no to one of them. lol Sorry.
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| | | 34 | GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 14:44
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Just created a FS.
Can go to either team, doesn't matter.
I Hit Hard
From the Back Alleys of Los Angeles and loves to feel the pain.
Height: 74in. (6'2") Weight: 201lbs
Position: Free Safety (FS)
Created: Season 1, day 44 (Apr 24, 2008)
Team: None (Free Agent)
Owner: GoatLocker
Cliff
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| | | 35 | JTSERB
Donor
ID: 481020120
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 14:44
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you can make as many as you like I believe sarge
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| | | 36 | barilko6
ID: 3732117
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 14:45
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All these trades are killing our team chemistry.
I hope that bowling outing works for team bonding!
As a new team you would think that the chemistry wouldn't be affected until the after first game of the season.
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| | | 37 | sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 14:49
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Falco Drakken on the board:
Falco Drakken, SS
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| | | 38 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 15:00
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I thought I read that team chemistry wouldn't be affected early.
Kyle has asked me to help out with the Financials of the team as a GM. I'm not going to deal with team personnel--except for renegotiations. We bounced several ideas around today and have some tentative ideas on what we're going to do as far as stadium/ticket prices/concessions/construction, etc. If anyone else has some time (esp if you have IM) and want to bounce some ideas around, let me know.
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| | | 39 | RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 15:05
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I have no idea what is going on, but I made a guy for the WTF-factor
Roman Gabriel - RB (HB)
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| | | 40 | JTSERB
Donor
ID: 481020120
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 15:05
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Side Note,
Ref how do you have 7 pitcher trades in ultimate and still 26th overall!
Im proud of my 96th, but i wish I had 7 pitcher trades
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| | | 42 | Little M
ID: 381111416
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 15:09
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Ref, Team Chemistry will be reset at the start of the season.
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| | | 43 | C1-NRB
ID: 5932328
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 15:10
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I will never cease to be amazed at the table-abilities (tabilities?) of J.
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| | | 44 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 15:10
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I just put that thing together, hopefully it helps somehow :)
Wiggs is the only one who we can't see skills for.
Not sure who Ferl the Pearl or Bigtime Passer is.
Any other ideas to add to this? I don't really know a good way to add in specialty skills, but I've got that too.
Looks like all 3 of our TE's are blocking TE's btw.
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| | | 45 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 15:16
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lol, C1-NRB, just something dorky that I get a kick out of doing.
I find it funny that amongst the OL on this team, I'm the fattest, yet the fastest :)
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| | | 46 | JTSERB
Donor
ID: 481020120
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 15:17
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guh J, dont tell me you just pulled all that without typing!.. I just typed all that info into a excel sheet for past 2 hours!
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| | | 47 | Little M
ID: 381111416
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 15:17
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I wonder if we should trade Bigtime Passer to the RBG Berzerk team for their Level 3 CPU QB. I just had a friend make up the QB to give us depth at that position, but if the CPU is better this year and Bigtime Passer starts for the RBG team, it could be to both the benefit of the team and the player. My friend won't care either way, since he does not intend to be very active.
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| | | 48 | Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 15:22
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J as the owner of the team I'd like to have that chart if possible. Thanks for doing that.
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| | | 49 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 15:22
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ok, I won't tell you that then ;)
I know there's quicker ways to do it then what I did, but it didn't take long. The only thing I typed was everyone's Gurupie name.
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| | | 50 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 15:23
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I'm going to be going up to lvl 4 and putting most of it into Stamina.
Re: 40 Been ahead of the curve on several players and getting lucky. Havefallen off since I was in the top 10. Would have been nice if I hadn't wasted a few HTs. Good thing about being ahead of the curve is that you can keep the players longer and the money follows.
I adjusted my team so only team members can see my attributes after I signed. I suggest that others do that too so teams have a harder time socuting you.
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| | | 51 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 15:24
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sent
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| | | 52 | JTSERB
Donor
ID: 481020120
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 15:33
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J, care to send me instructions on how to pull the data like that?
It would be very useful for me in the future :)
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| | | 53 | JTSERB
Donor
ID: 481020120
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 15:35
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Don't let that linger 2 long on there though J. If anyone from goaline knows we are from rotoguru im sure they can find the site then have all the scouting they need!
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| | | 54 | Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 15:35
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Yes, I echo what Ref says.
MAKE ATTRIBUTES AVAILABLE TO TEAM MEMBERS ONLY!
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| | | 55 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 15:43
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Do people really go that far to scout teams out???? Jeez. Once we get our roster filled out I can post that somewhere else.
Actually, if we don't have rotoguru in our team name, but just use "RG" something, we won't have to worry about people finding us, right?
email sent jtserb...
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| | | 57 | C1-NRB
ID: 5932328
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 15:50
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I'll take one of those emails too J, if you don't mind.
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| | | 59 | youngroman
ID: 3751268
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 16:00
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with the power of Google this thread will be found fast. I just tried some search criteria and the 3rd one brings this thread into the top10. and the criteria has nothing to do with a team or player name. maybe we can use this power against our opponents. I'll try doing some research on that.
the Gurupie name of Ferl The Pearl Toothless is Ferl. he is a friend of mine who is out of town the next few days. I have his account info and will look at his player while he is gone.
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| | | 60 | barilko6
ID: 3732117
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 16:01
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I have a question that I don't think anyone has really thought of or covered just yet.
Since we are all new, who picks up the tab at the rookie dinner?
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| | | 61 | sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 16:05
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One guess who this guy wants to be when he develops:
Bradley Eastcreek, HB
not the type HB you were looking for and I know that. If you're not interesdted in him...NP at all. I'll post him on the forum and see what happens. (This is getting absurdly interesting...different player "builds")
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| | | 62 | weykool
ID: 2842717
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 16:10
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Does everyone know they need to "Equip" their players with the equipment after they buy it?
I didnt.
Wonder if there are others.
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| | | 63 | JTSERB
Donor
ID: 481020120
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 16:25
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Also, just to let everyone know all strategies will be posted in the forum on our team page. Please visit there and check for updates.
There will be specific messages from the coaches for each player to tell what you individual tatic should be for the specific game.
Season 2 starts tomorrow with first games on Sat. So if you still need to boost for season 1 and planned on doing so do it now!
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| | | 64 | Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 16:26
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Some things that are coming to my attention:
1. The season officially starts tomorrow. All things roster related that are done after tomorrow will effect the morale. Just a heads up if you are planning on making a player and getting them on the main Guru squad. I don't speak for the JV team, but I don't think morale will be a huge thing on that team.
2. Boosting: When should I boost? How much should I boost? Should I wait?
Here's my thought on boosting. We are going to be competitive, looking at our conference. I think we have a very good shot to be a playoff team. I think we should use 1 boost in the middle of the season and 2 when we get to the playoffs (or one at the start of the stretch run and 1 at the beginning of the playoffs). That way we can keep our EXP growing faster in the regular season, and we can use our boosts later when they won't come as quickly.
3. Renegotiations: If you are unhappy with your contract I will allow for some renegotiations. We have had no ticket sales yet since the season hasn't started yet. Let's wait until after game 3 to renegotiate. Your current contracts should cover training until then and there shouldn't be a need for the level 8 equipment bonus unless wiggs boosts his player. I know quite a few guys are close to level 5 right now, so by the time we hit game 3 we'll probably have a few players there. But as I said if you want to renegotiate, e-mail me or send me a PM on GLB. Don't do it on here please.
4. Taking a loan out: If we take a loan out that will severely hamper renegotiations as we will want to repay that as soon as possible. But it will also allow us to build up our stadium, get more butts in the seats, and get more money for contracts and stadium upgrades. I am not going to take out a loan this year because the interest is so high on them that the seats we build with the loan will only pay back the interest. If we get a nice income at the end of the year I may take out a loan so we can build our stadium up big time maybe double the seats and then be able to get some really sweet contracts in year 3.
That's all from your wonderful owner for now. I will take questions now if you have them.
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| | | 65 | Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 16:30
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Sarge if you boost him to level 2 before the season starts I'll take Brian West... er Bradley Eastcreek as a backup. If not then send him to the JV squad for them to give him some playing time.
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| | | 66 | C1-NRB
ID: 5932328
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 16:30
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I'm going to copy my sample scouting report to the team coach's forum and delete it (just in case).
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| | | 67 | sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 16:32
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re 62, equip??? how???
re 65...I cant "send" him anywhere. Need an offer dont I?
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| | | 68 | Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 16:32
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Also how do I post a picture can someone help with that?
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| | | 69 | Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 16:33
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True you can't send him. But if you don't plan on boosting before season 2 I'd let him play for the JV team and have them offer you a contract.
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| | | 70 | sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 16:35
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np....from reading the forum, the "rate of return" on the boosting, is substantially better if you wait a little bit. So our "JV" squad is fine with me.
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| | | 71 | barilko6
ID: 3732117
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 16:37
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I think another way to make money in this game, although maybe a little underhanded, is to sign players to contracts and then immediately trade them to another owner for cash.
As long as there is no signing bonus, any money we make in the transaction would be pure profit.
Sure, the player signing with us would be angry and it might hamper our efforts to sign other guys, but that point would be moot, as all of our players would come directly from here anyways.
Thoughts?
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| | | 72 | sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 16:40
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The forum entry in particular re boosting and when, is this one:
XP table vs player level
Sionce ea level takes the same 1,000 XPs, and at later (higher levels) you get fewer XPs/day...it makes sense to lvl early by practice/play and then boost later when it would otherwise take more days to level. ie, boost from 1 to 2, saves 10 days w/o playtime. Boosting from 4 to 5, saves 12 days w/o playtime.
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| | | 73 | Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 16:40
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I don't like that since we don't want to get a bad name on GLB. If they Google our players the names come right back here probably. Also if we offer no bonus then they probably won't sign. I wouldn't sign a contract that gave me no money up front.
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| | | 74 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 16:48
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62:
i had no clue. just gained 4 pts. go to equipment and click on equip.
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| | | 75 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 16:50
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Oh, let me know if I should remove post 41 with the chart...or maybe I can edit it so thats its not googlable (did I just make up a word?)
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| | | 76 | Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 16:51
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This is what your screen should look like when you want to only share with your teammates. Please do this so our coaches can see your abilities. You can also see how to equip your equipment.
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| | | 78 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 17:07
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Ok, I'll remove it in a bit, but I'm curious if I did make it ungooglable or not now ;)
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| | | 79 | Little M
ID: 381111416
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 17:20
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Reminder that with the season about to start, make sure that you have set your training. I don't know if there will be training before the season starts, but it doesn't hurt to set it now. If anyine needs any help, ask one of the coaches, GM or owner.
I have my training set on extreme for now and will reduce it when the games start.
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| | | 80 | GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 17:44
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Any particular equipment we should buy.
What about Colors.
If not told something in particular, Smash Mouth will probably stay with Black where he can.
Just because he thinks it makes him look mean.
Cliff
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| | | 81 | weykool
ID: 2842717
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 17:47
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You guys crack me up with all this secretive crap.
Who cares if they want to "scout" us.
If we have better players we will win.
If thier players are better they will win.
They can already see what level our players are by looking at the site.
We are 3 levels below pro.
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| | | 82 | PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 17:51
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Who wants to take Weykool out back?
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| | | 83 | GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 17:51
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Also plan to use all my bonus points from equipment for stamina.
Cliff
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| | | 84 | PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 17:53
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Origionally with Pendergast I was thinking to boost him right near the begining to get some extra points, and then save the other two for the end of the season. But I can hold onto all 3.
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| | | 85 | Tree
ID: 73302415
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 17:56
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you guys also realize you have a forum on the GLB site that is available to team members only?
btw, myself and weycool are running that B team.
if you do not have a spot yet, and want one, please let one of us know, and we'll send you an offer ASAP.
these links should work:
WeyKool
Tree
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| | | 86 | sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 17:58
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tREE...SEE POST 61 ABOVE
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| | | 87 | Little M
ID: 381111416
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 18:00
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Any thoughts on post 47?
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| | | 88 | barilko6
ID: 180102816
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 18:01
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Yeah, I sent Kyle an email a couple days ago suggesting we keep some of the better CPU players that are pretty cheap as backups.
I think that is a good strategy.
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| | | 89 | Twarpy
Leader
ID: 386242821
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 18:02
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Tree, From the Last Thread...
238 J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 09:37 Good idea! Me and Twarpy made complementary Wide Receivers...
No One (J)
Some One (Twarpy)
To my knowledge we haven't gotten offers yet.
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| | | 90 | PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 18:07
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Kyle what's the plan for the O and D coords again? I'm finally alive and awake and not at work to fully understand it. You said not to make changes to the different Tactics, or I can?
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| | | 91 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 18:10
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Running numbers on our financials...
Trying to come up with some numbers so we can afford our equipment and perhaps training upgrades and possibly stadium expansion, etc.
Doing some research on the forums and other successful team's pricing...
If we can have about a 1/4 season ticket haul (these figures assuming a 22% discount) for normal and club seating and a 2/3 tickets sold for every gme, we are looking at a 1.76M+ in revenue. We are going to need at least $2M but we should be able to make that up with our concession pricing. I have no idea where to even start to get those numbers. We will have a much better idea after the first couple games but we need to be good.
If we go into the red we would have to take out a costly loan but then we'd have to pay that back immediately with a high interest or lose our team altogether. But if we can be good and get this pricing right, we're going to have all the money we need to renegotiate contracts so we can do whatever it takes to get better.
My recommendation is that we do NOT get the loan needed to build onto the stadium as if we can sell that many seats, we're going to be fine our first year anyhow.
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| | | 92 | Tree
ID: 73302415
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 18:10
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alright. WK and i will start discussion.
in the meantime, if you guys have the flex points to boost your levels, DO IT NOW, before the season starts. you can only do it 3 times per season, and right is still considered "season one", so boost before season two starts.
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| | | 93 | GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 18:13
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Tree,
Also see post 34.
Haven't heard from Kyle that they want him, and think I saw where they now don't need a FS.
Cliff
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| | | 94 | Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 18:17
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RE 87-88: I'd be willing to trade the QB to the other team for a Level 3 QB. I'll send off a proposal to the JV squad.
RE 90: I gave you the ability to change up the Defensive tactics. Please consult the coaches corner in the private chat on GoalLine Blitz to see what the scouts, and JTSerb (Head Coach) are saying. I haven't checked in yet, but I know JTSerb has set the depth chart for the defense so you can choose the best strategy for a defensive attack. Also treat my FS as if he were a SS. He's basically built like one anyway.
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| | | 95 | Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 18:18
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We don't need another FS. We have 3 safeties and an offer out to Toral if he ever checks in. We are actually good on players right now.
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| | | 96 | GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 18:19
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Just boosted I Hit Hard.
Waiting for an offer.
Will spend the skill points when I get home and figure out what to do.
Of if there is anything in particular in want.
Can get that from the team forum after I get in.
Cliff
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| | | 97 | GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 18:21
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Tree - I Hit Hard is yours, just send me the offer.
Cliff
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| | | 98 | Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 18:23
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Weykool, I sent a trade offer.
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| | | 99 | sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 18:31
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Season starts Sat Tree...if you're gonna make an offer, I need it soon or I'll have to accept a different one.
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| | | 100 | Tree
ID: 73302415
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 18:37
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patience... :o)
weykool is west coast. he's at work right now.
we are meeting this evening to send out offers. you will get one tonight.
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| | | 101 | GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 18:38
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I'll accept mine when I get it.
Cliff
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| | | 102 | sarge33rd
ID: 99331714
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 18:40
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patience???? patience???? I'd have thought you'd know me better than that. sheeeesh
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| | | 103 | Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 18:49
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Tree how bout the trade I offered? Can you accept that?
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| | | 104 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 19:02
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I just leveled up to 4.
With the 4 points I got in equipment and 5 now in leveling (and should lvl naturally again after the first game or two) my guy is starting to get there. My abiity tree is already pretty good but the attirbutes catching up is nice.
If we sellout every game with our current ticket prices and preseason discount, we will make around $2.6M depending on season tix sold. Add concessions and our current money and we'd be set. Now that's not going to happen, but if we're good we will be closer to that then the 2/3 we think is a minimum we need.
We also need to rename the team and stadium asap. Let's go you creative minds. Season 2 starts tomorrow and tentatively our first game is Sat.
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| | | 105 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 19:02
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I just leveled up to 4.
With the 4 points I got in equipment and 5 now in leveling (and should lvl naturally again after the first game or two) my guy is starting to get there. My abiity tree is already pretty good but the attirbutes catching up is nice.
If we sellout every game with our current ticket prices and preseason discount, we will make around $2.6M depending on season tix sold. Add concessions and our current money and we'd be set. Now that's not going to happen, but if we're good we will be closer to that then the 2/3 we think is a minimum we need.
We also need to rename the team and stadium asap. Let's go you creative minds. Season 2 starts tomorrow and tentatively our first game is Sat.
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| | | 106 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 19:12
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Dave Hall Stadium?
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| | | 107 | weykool
ID: 2842717
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 19:30
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Gurudome
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| | | 108 | PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 19:39
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Bort wrote this earlier, so it's something to think about...
Tonight is the cutoff for building new sections. After they have been processed tonight, any sections you build will not be built until next season's off-season.
So the thought here is, is it worth it to upgrade our stuff tonight and take out a loan right now, for future revenue since it can't be increased for a hole season after tonight.
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| | | 109 | RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 19:40
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Sartible Stadium at Guru Hall
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| | | 110 | barilko6
ID: 180102816
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 19:41
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What is the cost of the upgrade? And can we sell tickets for the upgrade immediately?
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| | | 111 | PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 19:41
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Also another Bort...
Chemistry will not affect teams during this season in the playoffs. It will start on day 1 of season 2. We will reset every team's chemistry to 70 before the first games of season 2 run. You will be able to make moves during the off season to prepare for the upcoming changes, and see how your chemistry meter will react.
So with what our Chem is right now being so low, this is how it will be with all the moves that we have made. Now i'm not sure if alot of the loss is from trades or FA, but this would mean we'd want to resign our people during the season than as a FA next offseason i'd assume.
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| | | 112 | PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 19:46
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Stadium Upgrades will be processed tonight about an hour before day change so I can make sure everything gets created properly. You'll see your fancy new section graphics show up then.
Tonight is the cutoff for building new sections. After they have been processed tonight, any sections you build will not be built until next season's off-season.
This also means there will be a window of one day (tomorrow) in which you can add some new seats to your new sections before season tickets get sold.
Also, Season 2 will officially start TOMORROW (Friday), which will be day zero. That means season 2 boosts can start to be done tomorrow, and the per-season referral limit will be reset. Season 2 games will start on Saturday as planned.
League schedules will be generated tomorrow as well. I'll process season ticket sales tomorrow night after the schedules are generated.
Tomorrow's day change (not tonight) will also include training, salaries, contract expirations, etc.
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| | | 113 | dpr
ID: 1733917
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 20:00
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I think I am going to use at least one of my boosts as soon as i can. It will make me level slower as i will be higher but I also can increase my low stamina so that I can get more plays potentially creating a overall increase in experience gained. With the added better performance I think it may be worth it.
This may be a good option for low stamina players with intentions to boost this season and i know barilko already alluded to doing it
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| | | 114 | dpr
ID: 1733917
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 20:01
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Also I created a thread on the website where anyone can send there input for offensive strategies. I will make a post soon saying how I perceive our strenghs and weakenesses versus a neutral team as well as the custimization options available so people can figure out what we can do.
Input would be appreciated
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| | | 115 | Doug
ID: 283451821
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 20:37
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Are we going to use this forum or the team forum on the website? I think we should pick one or the other or it's going to get confusing.
Personally I prefer the website, because we can have multiple threads and it's all in one place... although this isn't a heavily used section of the rotoguru forums, so if Guru doesn't mind us basically taking it over...
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| | | 116 | Tree
ID: 73302415
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 20:52
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ok - offers have been sent to Sarge, GL, J, and Twarpy.
anyone else?
and let's try to level up tonight!
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| | | 117 | dpr
ID: 1733917
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 20:56
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115--
I think the idea was to keep team strategy on the team forum there to keep it safe but other stuff could go here. Altho it does seem easier to keep in one place
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| | | 118 | wiggs
Sustainer
ID: 04991311
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 20:57
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couple things, i will definitely need to renegotiation my contract, i am the highest level and the lowest salary.
Also am I still a GM, I see Ref is now GM and my name is no longer there.
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| | | 119 | Doug
ID: 283451821
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 20:58
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I'm willing to buy/spend some flex points to make a low-level player if we need someone at level 1, etc. for the A-team (FB?). My idea with him is just going to be optimize training and XP... no boosting.
If we don't want/need a scrub (or he won't get playing time), then I'll build someone for the B-team. Maybe an OL, since they're inexpensive to boost.
Let me know ASAP if you could... sorry for being last-minute... I've been busy at work... thanks!
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| | | 120 | Tree
ID: 73302415
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 21:08
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Doug - are you asking myself and weykool about RGB Berzerk?
so far, we have offers out to a rb, two WR, and a safety. so if you want to create something, please do.
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| | | 121 | dpr
ID: 1733917
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 21:41
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Ref 91 104
If you look at this thread http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=87489
you can see one persons guide to estimating finances. I would assume you ahve seen ti but it seems to project higher numbers then you are estimating
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| | | 122 | JTSERB
Donor
ID: 481020120
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 21:46
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Wiggs you are still a GM and a vital piece to this team!
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| | | 123 | JTSERB
Donor
ID: 481020120
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 21:47
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Who on the Blue Jays team has level up today or added their equipment after 2 PM central time?
Need to know so i can update my sheet. This could change your depth chart position!
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| | | 124 | Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 21:58
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RE Wiggs: You are still a GM let me know what you want to do.
RE 119-120: I think he was asking about the BJ's. We could use another FB, I think. So if you want to join the BJs as a backup FB I'll offer you a contract.
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| | | 125 | GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 22:01
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Smash Mouth was busy this afternoon.
Checkin things out and getting primped for the season.
Cliff
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| | | 126 | Tree
ID: 73302415
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 22:11
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RGB Berzerk currently has signed, or offers out to, the following positions:
HB
FB
WR
WR
FS
obviously, we've got plenty of openings...
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| | | 127 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 22:14
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Wiggs, we are going to take care of your contract asap.
For everyone else, we really need to get our season tix sold info before we even think about it. I'm in a meeting with JT and Kyle right now tyring to haemr out osme details ebfore the seaosn officially opens tomorrow. Tonight is the last night you can boost and still be in season 1--so you can get up to lvl 4 tonight.
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| | | 128 | JTSERB
Donor
ID: 481020120
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 22:18
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Tree I have a level 2 LB on the rigs tigers who was traded to get wiggs to our team.... if you want try to trade for him his contract is very very small
Here he is
Joe Urlacher
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| | | 129 | GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 22:22
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Tree,
I can go in and make on OL or C if that would help and boost them.
Would be realitively cheap.
Just let me know.
Cliff
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| | | 130 | Tree
ID: 73302415
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 22:26
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GL - do it.
Serb - not sure how we're handling trades yet. maybe weykool will check in over here in a few.
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| | | 131 | astade
ID: 1533770
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 22:35
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jtserb, i have equipped. Please update the depth chart. I mentioned this on the glb thread, but thought I'd mention it here too.
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| | | 132 | GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 22:47
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Tree,
Just made us a center for the JV.
Hunker Down
Height: 72in. (6'0") Weight: 316lbs
Position: Center (C)
Created: Season 1, day 44 (Apr 24, 2008)
Team: None (Free Agent)
Owner: GoatLocker
Cliff
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| | | 133 | Doug
ID: 283451821
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 23:49
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Tonnii Spectre
CB for the developmental team
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| | | 134 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Apr 24, 2008, 23:57
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Wiggs, I sent you a new contract and some more bonus money.
There are others who are going to need more cash soon. If anyone else boosts to lvl 4 tonight let me know. Otherwise, I think we can all make it to the start of the season with our current contracts.
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| | | 135 | JTSERB
Donor
ID: 481020120
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 00:13
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Attn Everyone:
Starting tomorrow. All info about our team will be on the team forum on the Goaline BLitz website. Please check in their.
Our Owner (Kyle) will be posting a state of the team address, which explains our direction and what he expects from everyone.
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| | | 136 | Tree
ID: 73302415
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 00:19
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hey Doug - set it so we can see your stats! :o)
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| | | 137 | Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 00:20
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Here's the positions that we have so far on the major league team. If you disagree with what your title is of if you don't want to put the time in to fulfill your duties.
Kyle: Owner, CEO, President and Czar
Oversee everyday activities. Makes sure everyone is doing their assigned duties. Be a sounding board for ideas, and have final say in trades, renegotiations, and signings.
Ref: CFO
Oversees all financial matters. Makes a budget, and makes sure every thing is fiscally sound.
Wiggs: General Manager
Assists the CFO and CEO in all day aspects. Reports on coaching reports to owner.
JTSerb: Head Coach
Oversees all coaches. Reports to GM, Owner and CFO on team strategy. Makes final decision on Depth Chart and Strategy. Advise when to boost.
dpr: Offensive Coordinator, Punk: Defensive Coordinator
Scout upcoming opponent. Create training regimen, get reports from Scouts. Report on who should be paid more and renegotiated with. Advise what stats to boost when boosting natural and artificially. E-mail players daily if needed.
C1-NRB: Head Scout
Create scouting reports from other scouts and from your own investigative reporting. Just keep doing what you are doing really
Goatlocker: Advanced Scout
Look 2 or 3 games ahead and get an idea of what up coming opponents might be like. Inform coordinators so they can change training schedules for players.
Everyone:
Scout the opposing position you are most likely going to face. Inform coordinators of up coming level boosts and your idea for what you want your player to be like. Follow the training schedule provided by the Coordinators. Listen to the head coach. Give 110% on the field. Respect Ronnie Boozer when he says "Do this beer bong, dude." Receive gifts from Quick Williams. Check in daily to find out updates. If you don't follow instructions benchings, fines and being cut can be issued. If you do follow the coaches rules that will help when it come to renegotiate.
Flow of command will go this way:
1. Scouts will report to C1-NRB
2. C1-NRb reports to the coordinators
3. Coordinators create game plan and report to HC.
4. HC tells GM game plan.
5. GM tells players game plan.
Also all game plan discussion will take place in the GLB forum. This forum will be for general discussion only.
If we all follow this play I can guarantee a successful season. I hope this remains fun yet regimented. 8-)
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| | | 138 | Doug
ID: 283451821
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 00:34
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Tree... ok, and I'm going to explain what I'm doing with him in the team forum on the site.
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| | | 139 | Jack Hammers
Donor
ID: 236482918
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 00:41
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I wonder if someone in the chain of command could give me some help with equipment
Maybe point me toward a thread with some good info, I've been scanning them and its freaking mind-boggling going through that forum.
-I'm ready get some equipment.
-Should I be getting it now? My Linebacking brethren, all have equipment. Head hands body, feet but there is obviously more to go. Some other starters I looked at did not have anything yet.
I'm assuming its time do this but I don't know how much and what the strategies are.
I would like to do some reading on it. Can somebody point me there?
Coach?
D-Coordinator? Eric Wiggins? Joe Punk?
Ronnie Boozer is a monster, but he is a drunken rookie who needs guidance.
I also didnt see anything about it in our league thread.
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| | | 140 | PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 00:44
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With my players I got all 4 pieces and added something different to each. Stamina, Speed, Strength and Tackling since the two guys i've created were D players.
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| | | 141 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 00:55
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Equipment boosts your stats. You SHOULD have it and equip it. Talk to your coaches about what skills you need to boost before buying it. But have it on and equipped before game one on Saturday.
Obviously the coaches will be watching our game "films" studying what we need to work on as far as skills and gameplanning too. We also should lok at things to figure out what we need to work on. Coaches can help but we all need to our part.
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| | | 142 | dpr
ID: 1733917
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 00:57
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wat does the individual player do? seems coaches tell them everything
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| | | 143 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 01:01
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I think coach oversees or has discussions with players as much as doing it for them.
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| | | 144 | Jack Hammers
Donor
ID: 236482918
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 01:02
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ok. So dont buy anything yet then? I guess I'm looking for my coaches now, or should I wait for a broad announcement.
I'm leaning buying 4 pieces and using all for stamina
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| | | 145 | dpr
ID: 1733917
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 01:04
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OK i guess I am jsut not sure where the line is drawn. If the coach tells someone that we want him to be a speed receiver or a pass blocking O-lineman, or tells the running back to work his receiving up so we can utilize that then I think that is fair but I don't think there needs to be a discussion every time a player has attributes to spare as long as the player is going in the right direction.
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| | | 146 | Weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 01:10
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One of the things i have not seen discussed here is buying multiple peices of equipment.
For instace we could all buy 4 peices that boost speed.
Then we could buy 4 pieces that boost strength.
So going into a game the manager and coordinators could tell everyone to put on their speed gear or their strenght gear as needed.
For players under level 4 it is only 2K for a full set of gear.
Something we might consider once we find out we have far more cash than we know what to do with.
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| | | 147 | dpr
ID: 1733917
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 01:19
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Is there any benefit to having a variety of specs at each position (aka speed vs possession receivers or pass vs run Oline). It seems that since play calling doesnt look at personel on the field it makes sense to have all players similarly designed so they can all maximize the play settings
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| | | 148 | Doug
ID: 283451821
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 01:51
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Re: 142... IMO, coaches make suggestions. I may make counter-suggestions, or I may agree. But nobody is going to completely tell me every detail of how to train my player, etc. I've spent a couple hours on a spreadsheet figuring out a rough season-long plan... I'm not going to throw it out the window because someone else said so, but I'll certainly listen to advice and suggestions and keep an open mind to make adjustments in the benefit of the team.
I think I understand the game pretty well... I've read quite a bit on the forums and such. So I don't think I'll need as much guidance as someone who's just kinda getting into it but hasn't spent the time to get the nitty gritty details quite as much. So that's kinda how I see the role of the coach... providing suggestions to everyone in light of the overall goals/direction of the team, and perhaps a bit more hands on specific steps for people could use the assist. As time goes on and people "get it" more, there will be less of the individual assistance and more of just the general team strategy. If/when we can afford multiple pieces of equipment like Weykool mentions in 146, then maybe coaches can make suggestions about which peices to wear each game and such.
Finally, some days, I'll have a lot of time to look at things and make my own decisions. Other days I may be swamped and only have 5 minutes to log on, see what coach said to train, set it, and log off. Anyway, those are my thoughts on coaching. :)
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| | | 149 | Doug
ID: 283451821
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 02:13
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Actually, one piece that I think does make sense for the coaches to have the most say and where I think I'll listen 90+% of the time are the various "advanced tactics" settings. My guy doesn't have much strength, so I have him set for wrap-up tackle. I've got good speed, so I have him set to play close. I can pick the ball, but don't want to be to aggressive so I have it set to only go for the pick if I have help over the top. Those all make sense to me... but if the coaches want to play conservative or aggressive D, I'll be happy to adjust accordingly. I think it will take some experimentation to figure out what works best, and will defer to whatever they want to suggest.
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| | | 151 | Tree
ID: 3533298
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 08:41
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positions needed for RGB Berzerk:
TE
LOT
ROT
LG
RG
NT
DT
LDE
RDE
MLB
LOLB
ROLB
CB
SS
all are 100-200 FP positions. come on folks, let's stock this squad! :o)
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| | | 152 | wiggs
Sustainer
ID: 04991311
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 08:50
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Ref, I accepted the offer you sent me with the understanding when I hit level 8 you will take care of me with a bonus so I can upgrade equipment. Is that correct?
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| | | 153 | Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 09:45
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RE 142 & 145: Some people might not know what exactly they are doing. Those people will need to work with the coaches to figure out what their role is with the team. If you want to be a deep threat reciever then go ahead and do that. Just make sure the coach knows that so he can work you into the game plan. The coaches need to know what you are doing so they can plan for it.
RE 148: Doug, I've seen your spreadsheet that has all your training and that is fantastic. I wish I could have all 40 players make up a schedule and be that specific. I mainly said this so we don't have an o-lineman working on recieving. Or you working on throwing. This may seem bizarre, but I am sure it is happening somewhere out there. You are right about the advanced tactics though. We need to get those perfectly aligned so that the gameplan is followed.
RE 144: Go ahead and buy equipment. If you think you are going to need more stamina then buy 4 pieces of stamina equipment and have 4 more points added to your stamina. Just remember the chart that has where your stamina should be at for your level. If you are level 4 and have 50 stamina, it might be time to work on something new.
RE 150: I am sending you a PM about this. Delete your comment if you could please. It might tip them off on our gameplan.
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Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 09:47
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Oh and RE 152: Wiggs you were severly underpaid. This is just so you get some cash so you can train as you wish. We were discussing this specificly and I am glad it got offered. There will be a performance bonus at level 8 offered to everyone. It will take care of your equipment, I promise.
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Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 09:47
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I can't delete it! Yikes...I made the comment at home, and now I am work.
My bad....
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Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 09:57
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If we have a moderator in the thread, they can do it.
Cliff
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Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 10:01
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Kyle - Will you send me a message about the same? I was thinking on the same lines of barilko.
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Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 10:06
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poof!
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| | | 159 | Kyle
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Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 11:52
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Weykool I sent you amessage about a player for the berzerkrs
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| | | 160 | dpr
ID: 1733917
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 11:58
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I am not sure of the advanced setting players ahve available to them. I know that I have options for running style blocking focus and tackling style. Are there differnet options for the other positions let me know. I know that the QB is different but am not quite sure how. I hope to send a message to all offensive players today.
Also if someone experienced in Oline could give me a detailed description of how that works that would be great. mainly pass block versus run block and what numbers put you in which category and how we should utilize that
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ID: 2842717
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 12:09
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Kyle I will get Tree to send you out an offer ASAP.
If there are any other Guru managers who want to create another low level player we still have plenty of spots to fill.
Just post here what player you would like to make and we will give you the go ahead.
I just want to make sure you create someone to fill a starting spot.
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Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 12:10
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I have boosted myself to level 8- I was under the impression that at level 8 you could buy better equipment- that is not the case unless I am missing something. The only thing I have seen is something were you can create custom equipment, but that cost flex points, not money.
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Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 12:11
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Ok, disregard, I found how to upgrade, now I need the signing bonus and new contract offer :)
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Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 12:14
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152: Yep. lvl 8 will need more.
As I've said before, the team needs to be good or we won't get the game day ticket sales or concessions/souvenir sales. We're going to make sure that everyone has the cash to train what they need to train, etc.
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ID: 3533298
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 12:15
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hey folks - with games starting tomorrow, i will probably start sending offers out to non-rotoguru folks sometime last this afternoon, so if you are interesting, we're getting close to the deadline.
i think you can message me here if you're looking to be signed - but i think you have to be signed in for that link to work.
also - looking for a Head Coach. if anyone wants that experience, we've go that slot open. instead of the owner (weykool) or the gm (myself) hiring co-ordinators, we'd prefer the coach does his own staff - obviously, with everyone offering input.
so hit me up!
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| | | 166 | Kyle
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Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 12:17
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Wiggs e-mail sent.
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| | | 167 | Kyle
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Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 12:20
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Also please follow what the coaches say about boosts. I don't want everyone to max out before the season starts and then we won't have anywhere to go but down.
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Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 12:21
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Thinking right now, has anyone seen if Day 1 training will begin Saturday at 2:30am EST or after our game. If the training is before the game, we should all set our training to intense for the 1st one, so we're getting those extra points (even though small) we won't be worrying about losing any kind of energy for the next game.
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Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 12:24
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wiggs - can you make your ratings available for the team to see so that I can update the team chart
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| | | 170 | Kyle
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Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 12:26
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Day 1 Training is before our game at 2:30am EST. If you have the cash to spen $800 on training go right ahead, but I don't have room in my budget to do that.
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| | | 171 | wiggs
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Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 12:31
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J- there are available now. Sorry
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| | | 172 | Ref
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Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 12:33
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Kyle just informed me that Wiggs artificially boosted from 5 to 8 today.
I was under the understanding that we would not be doing this early. Obviously, the bonus would have been more than what I sent you had I known you were already at level 8. From what I read in the forums and others in these threads alluded to, we shouldn't boost until midseason and right before playoffs.
Nothing we can do about it now. I'll give you more money for your equipment. At least that will really help us in the short-term.
But if others need to correct a stat (i.e. stamina) and need a boost, please talk to someone first. Boosts today count toward your max of 3 per year. Of course you can level naturally in the games, but you get less XPs at higher levels.
I think Doug's posts are very good. Obviously, we don't want coaches coming in and running our players for us. They are simply there to advise and well, coach us. Most players will be studying their position and matchups, etc. But we do need to fit it in the game plan. Excellent points Doug!!!
We don't have ticket revenues yet. There are other players who are going to need more cash to optimize their training.
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Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 12:38
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I have been told that it makes no difference when you boost and I was also told that you need to have higher level players on the team to sell more tickets. Who would you rather watch if you didnt have a favorite team LT or Justin Fargas? I see no reason not to boost your player asap except for money reasons. If we cant afford it then it is a bad move, but if we can, why not have the best players we can get.
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Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 12:42
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As it's been pointed out, you gain more exp training at a lower level. So if we come out and get creamed out first game we would know we need to lvl up now, but if we did good why would we want to waste our own players chance of more lvl's during the season. That's my POV on it.
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Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 12:44
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I just looked at 5 random teams and they all had atleast 5 most had 8 players level 9 or higher. We are going to get killed if we wait to long to boost.
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Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 12:45
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Tree, I wouldn't mind being the Head Coach. I don't know how much time I will have for scouting, but hopefully there will be some co-ordinators.
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Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 12:45
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Wiggs, I sent you another (bigger) contract with more bonus money to get your lvl 8 equipment.
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Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 12:53
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That isnt going to be enough money to get the equipment equipment is 10K.
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Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 13:04
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I fully agree with that Kyle. With my player last season I was banking $250 each training day while it was still the playoffs.
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Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 13:05
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Sorry, we are breaking my rule:
"No Contract negotiations in public"
I'm deleting my post if you 2 could delete yours too, thanks!
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Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 13:06
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holy crap, that was exactly what I was saying when i was running the team but no one listened to me.
This is why I thought it was ok to boost.
Post 64
3. Renegotiations: If you are unhappy with your contract I will allow for some renegotiations. We have had no ticket sales yet since the season hasn't started yet. Let's wait until after game 3 to renegotiate. Your current contracts should cover training until then and there shouldn't be a need for the level 8 equipment bonus unless wiggs boosts his player. I know quite a few guys are close to level 5 right now, so by the time we hit game 3 we'll probably have a few players there. But as I said if you want to renegotiate, e-mail me or send me a PM on GLB. Don't do it on here please.
Post 152
Ref, I accepted the offer you sent me with the understanding when I hit level 8 you will take care of me with a bonus so I can upgrade equipment. Is that correct?
post 164
152: Yep. lvl 8 will need more.
As I've said before, the team needs to be good or we won't get the game day ticket sales or concessions/souvenir sales. We're going to make sure that everyone has the cash to train what they need to train, etc.
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ID: 1733917
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 13:09
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wiggs you cant cite a post claiming to ahve read and used it as advise when there are also many posts talking about the downside to boosting which you clearly ahvent read
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Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 13:12
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Kyle, I think you and Ref are underestimating the revenue that will come in. Everything that I have read indicates revenues between $3 and $5 million for the season. The current salary is $1.1 million, so that leaves lots of slack.
I understand you want to be conservative, but hopefully season tickets will come in tomorrow at a higher level than you forecasted and the purse strings can be relaxed a bit.
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ID: 1733917
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 13:15
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with everyone having enough money to train normal and intense when needed I dont think we ahve to be worrying about it too much. We wont have to give out too many 10k bonus' before we can estimate the cost of everything so if they realize they were conservative they can adjust and nothing has been lost. Also I do agree that we will exceed their expectations in terms of income
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Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 13:18
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Wiggs, reread what i said in 64. I didn't want to have to renegotiate until after game 3. Current contracts were going to cover training. Ref and I decided that you were so grossly underpaid by your former owner that we'd give you the minimum for a level 5 player. That would have covered your players training throughout the entire season.
I understand that I mentioned that there shouldn't be a need for the PERFORMANCE bonus until people started hitting level 8 and needing money for their equipment, but the bonus was meant to be based on how well you play. How many plays you get in, how your stats look, how your play affects the team. Since we've played no games we can only go based on the 3 games you played last year.
I also said in that post NOT to discuss contract negotiations on the forum. This is a gross example of bringing a contract negotiation into the forum. What we gave you is more than enough to buy the equipment you need and continue to train. You have money of your own. We aren't here to give you a weekly allowance so you can go buy new clothes because you don't like the stats in enhances.
This brings me to my last point for every player on the team. Set a budget. Know how much you'll have to spend and how much you'll need. Bonuses are gifts for good play, they aren't required anywhere by the site administrators. It's a reward that I am offering you guys.
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Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 13:19
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Amen Kyle
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ID: 1733917
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 13:24
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I am not really sure wording it as performance based incentives makes all that much sense because that is just a case of the rich getting richer as well as it is a game a chance so may not be accurately reflected. However i agree one shouldn't expect the full 10k just enough to make up the difference between what they have and the cost of equipment amybe leaving a little extra. I
It is tough to plan out our money when we dont ahve an idea of how quick we gain experience from playing in games. Also I dont know how to anticipate my mix of normal and relaxed training having never seen the effects of energy postgame. Also is the goal to be 80+ energy for every game? 90+? or what?
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Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 13:25
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dpr, relax, i have read every post in the thread, I was taking it as I was an exception to the rule since my name was specifically mentioned. I also mentioned numerous times I would be boosting to level 8 and then 9 in the 1st couple days.
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Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 13:25
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I need to add some humor to that post.
(From Christmas Vacation)
Hey. If any of you are looking for any last-minute gift ideas for me, I have one. I'd like Frank Shirley, my boss, right here tonight. I want him brought from his happy holiday slumber over there on Melody Lane with all the other rich people and I want him brought right here, with a big ribbon on his head, and I want to look him straight in the eye and I want to tell him what a cheap, lying, no-good, rotten, four-flushing, low-life, snake-licking, dirt-eating, inbred, overstuffed, ignorant, blood-sucking, dog-kissing, brainless, dickless, hopeless, heartless, fat-ass, bug-eyed, stiff-legged, spotty-lipped, worm-headed sack of monkey shit he is. Hallelujah. Holy shit. Where's the Tylenol?
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Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 13:25
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dpr I think we have to see what our energy is after our first game to see what we should go with. My other guy was only in one game and he game out of it with 97% energy, but he was just a backup.
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ID: 04991311
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 13:27
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Dpr, please tell me 1 down side to boosting your contract except money for training?
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Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 13:28
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Kyle, that is one of my favorite movies ever, and the best line out of it :)
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Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 13:29
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I didnt realize I was breaking a rule, there was really no negotiations posted just a comment about the equipment.
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Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 13:33
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re: 194 Not to start an argument at all, but I was wondering if there was a reason for this as well.
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ID: 2842717
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 13:33
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Level Calculator
1: 100 XP per day
2: 96 XP per day
3: 92 XP per day
4: 87 XP per day
5: 82 XP per day
6: 77 XP per day
7: 73 XP per day
8: 69 XP per day
9: 65 XP per day
10: 61 XP per day
11: 57 XP per day
12: 54 XP per day
13: 51 XP per day
14: 47 XP per day
You can see now why some people wait to boost as well. If you are at Level 1, you gain 100 XP each day. Once you boost up to Level 4, now you are only gaining 87 XP per day. For people who wait, their thinking is that they will Level Up faster without boosting, then at higher Levels when you get fewer XP per day (for example at Level 8, where you get only 69 XP per day), then they can boost and their boosting is worth more in terms of training days.
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ID: 1733917
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 13:34
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wiggs read this thread:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=78600
either i dont know how to use the create link or it doesnt work for me sorry.
But to summarize. As a level 5 you would have gained 82exp a day. As a level 8 you gain 69. This difference is mroe or less constant as you level but decreases a bit. Lets say for the season you average getting .12 exp a day. over 40 days that is almost 5 levels. This effect is also seen in game experience so the effect will be even greater. Doing it out I realize the effects are even larger then I had thought
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ID: 180102816
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 13:34
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OK...that is through training, but on the other side, would you not gain more XP if you could boost up and get more stamina, thereby getting more playing time, which would in turn lead to increased XP?
That was a long road to follow...lol
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ID: 1733917
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 13:39
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yea I think for players with low stamina that could be an argument but even if you did that I would only do it once (i doubt you are more ten 5 points off). Also this year they are lowering the number of plays you need to be achieve max exp to 50. As the starting RB I am not sure if getting this many plays is a concern. I guess we can only wait and see.
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ID: 1733917
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 13:40
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having more stamina would cause your energy to go down less which could allow you to train harder but I am not sure the magnitude of those effects. For now i wouldn't advise putting in more then 1 point. I am not sure whether I would advise the 1 point yet or not
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ID: 1733917
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 13:41
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in above post point means boost. btw i am an expert at triple posting
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Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 14:03
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I have posted all my settings in the Defense Forum. Any coaches want to change anything lemme know.
I will go out tonight and have a life, I may check in there and here later and then around noon tomorrow
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Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 14:04
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RE: 185 I've said from day one, that the players need to have enough money to make themselves the best they can be. As far as I know, everyone has enough to start the season--except wiggs has to get his lvl 8 equipment.
I am just learning here too, but we can always add bonus money through reneogtiations, but can't take that money back if we overpay, etc. We will know more tomorrow even. Season is scheduled to start tomorrow.
Guess the coaches/scouts whatever will be meeting tonight for game planning? HTing is that we don't eve have the schedule yet so am just going with the flow and learning...
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Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 14:07
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Bort
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Apr 25, 2008 11:59:09
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Just an update on schedules: I'm working a few kinks out. I plan to have them loaded up around 3-4pm PST.
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ID: 2842717
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 14:08
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Is there a consensus as to how much real money we are going to be expected to pay in order to be a part of team Guru?
No offense to Wiggs, without him starting the initial thread none of of us would be here getting into this game.
However, it leaves a bit of a sour taste in my mouth when I read about him expecting us all to boost our players (with real money) when he is using our referral points to boost his player.
I have also read several complaints at the team forum that our DE's are only level 2 and we as a team are going to get killed.
As one of the 2 DE's I suspect he is referring to me.
I also read in the main forums where some guy an near as they could estimate had spent well of $500.
I have already spent $20 more on this game than I had initially intended to and just want to know what the expectations from the powers that be are going to be regarding the spending of real money on the game.
I am wondering if we will be able to compete if we do it "on the cheap" if we have dedicated managers or if the only way to achieve success will be to outspend the other teams.
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Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 14:10
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ATTENTION COACHES:
Bort, Admin
Apr 25, 2008 11:59:09
Just an update on schedules: I'm working a few kinks out. I plan to have them loaded up around 3-4pm PST.
I hope we can have coaches meetings at some point before noon tomorrow. I am going to try to find a spoon to eat my Wendy's Chili and when I return I hope to address everyone's concern in an organized matter. GD Wendy's not giving me a spoon...
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Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 14:11
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DPR, I see your point about losing exp points when you level up, but i do know for a fact someone like me, who put alot of points into stamina will make more points back on game days because I will play more plays.
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Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 14:15
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I think having a lvl 8 can't hurt us right now on the playing field. I was just taken off-guard by it. Obviously, I would have waited on the contract I sent last night. Obviously we couldn't field a full team of lvl 8s financially.
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| | | 211 | PuNk42AE
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Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 14:16
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Well it's now time to curse Arby's Kyle.
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ID: 1733917
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 14:18
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209
Yea there will be a benefit from the extra stamina. Altho u only need 50 plays to get the max amount for a game so I am not sure how high a level of stamina is needed to achieve this. I was jsut presenting the alternative. Clearly there is a tradeoff and way too many unknowns for us at this point to evaluate the best option.
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Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 14:19
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No offense to Wiggs, without him starting the initial thread none of of us would be here getting into this game.
However, it leaves a bit of a sour taste in my mouth when I read about him expecting us all to boost our players (with real money) when he is using our referral points to boost his player.
WHOA I dont know what you are talking about. Please show me 1 place where I ever said/asked you to spend any money on a player. Also I did not use your referral points to boost myself, I used my referral points to buy a team- I have paid the 9.99 to get 1200 points or whatever it was.
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ID: 1733917
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 14:23
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I am not quite sure of my availability tonight to have a meeting. i have some errands to run which I cannot begin until about 4 when the schedule comes out. I really cant estimate how long they will go. i know that I will be free later in the evening but as I am West Coast that may be after many have gone to bed. if I cant make it I have listed my opinion of our team against a neutral team in the forums. If you guys have a meeting you can use these as a basis for my thoughts and then when I get back tonight I can look at what you guys have thought and give my input for it to be implemented tomorrow. Tomorrow is also a very busy day for me so I will have little free time
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Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 14:23
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DPR,
please see the team forum, i dont want to post this where it can be seen.
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Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 14:24
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I should be around later tonight and i will try to put my 2 cents in when i get a chance.
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ID: 1733917
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 14:26
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Weycool,
Obviosly if we want to be the best team that we can be then we are going to have to boost every season. So that means between 3-9 per season to spend on the game. However I dont think that the expectation is that you boost. if you dont then that is fine jsut realize others are going to and as a result your playing time will likely suffer
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ID: 236482918
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 14:27
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I like having the Level 8 linebacker playing next to mine. I have a feeling it will benefit all the LB's, and the D.
What the hell, its hit or miss for a while anyway right
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| | | 219 | Kyle
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ID: 052753312
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 14:28
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I now have a spoon (thank you kitchen in the office), and Punk I have no ill words for Arby's. They brought back the $5 round up. And Beef&Cheddars are manna from heaven.
RE 196: Post 178 states that isn't enough money. PM me or Ref or e-mail us. Don't post it in the forum. It's like you are asking for a rebuttal.
RE dpr: You are spot on with what I am thinking in regards to training and boosting. If we boost the lower, easier levels and try to naturally move through the harder levels it will be, well harder. If we naturally move through the easy levels and boost the harder levels then we will be the better for it.
RE 207: Weykool, I have never stated that I want you to spend money. If you do spend money, great. If you don't you'll still be welcome on the team. You're level will just be 3 below everyone who spends money.
RE 210: I agree. I wasn't expecting that, but it can't hurt us can it?
RE 211: I love Arby's. So back off. The redheaded b*tch didn't give me a spoon. How am I supposed to eat chili without a spoon?
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Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 14:32
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Yeah but Arby's just bought Wendy's, comeeee on keep up with the news Kyle!
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ID: 1733917
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 14:35
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kyle would u recommend low stamina players boost to improve it? i am about to message the O and was considering mentioning this in the messages. or is this a bad idea?
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Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 14:36
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Another point is that I want all players to be able to use all the money we give them. Does no one any good if they have a stash in the bank. Not like you can go buy some bling. Next season (in 40 days) we are going to need to re-sign everyone at a much higher contract and if we need to add seats/stadium because of our great year, that's more cash too.
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ID: 3533298
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 14:41
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Little M -
Tree, I wouldn't mind being the Head Coach. I don't know how much time I will have for scouting, but hopefully there will be some co-ordinators.
can you reach out to me on the GLB email system? let's talk that way. this thread is a bit too convoluted. i may start one for RGB Berzerk, but let's talk coaching through GLB.
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| | | 224 | dpr
ID: 1733917
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 14:41
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ref,
wen people ask for a bonus for equipment jsut ask how much they already have and give them the difference between that and 10k plus maybe a bit extra to be safe
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| | | 225 | PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 14:42
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Ref Kyle said earlier that Bonus's shouldn't be all about paying for it, players should be able to save up some and pay for it with the bonus and their pay.
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| | | 226 | weykool
ID: 2842717
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 14:42
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I just looked at 5 random teams and they all had atleast 5 most had 8 players level 9 or higher. We are going to get killed if we wait to long to boost.
To me that implies we are expected to boost.
I can boost my player if I need to.
My question is what happens when next year season I am level 8 and our competition is 10 and 11 are we going to be expected to boost again?
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| | | 227 | dpr
ID: 1733917
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 14:48
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I think it implies that if we are going to boost we should boost early not wait.
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| | | 228 | Frick
ID: 23117516
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 14:50
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I was just looking around the site and I ran across the concession prices. Did anyone here play Hot dog stand? I played on a TRS80 and I remember having play a huge impact on what sold. There was also a trick of setting the price of items extremely high and selling 1 and making money. Ahh, good times.
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| | | 229 | PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 14:54
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I played that Apple IIE Lemonaid stand when I was in 6th grade and a bus took us to the high school.
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| | | 230 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 14:54
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I am reading that we should train on intense just for today and then change it back for tomorrow. My problem is that I can't afford that. The diff is .2 for $300 or $800. Do others have this issue and what is the general thinking on this matter?
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| | | 231 | barilko6
ID: 180102816
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 14:55
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I totally played Lemonade stand...it was great!
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| | | 232 | PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 14:55
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Has anyone seen much talked about Confidence pertaining to each position?
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| | | 233 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 14:56
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I have the same issue, Ref. I am training on normal today, and am focusing on a peripheral stat (vision) since I can get 0.5 instead of just 0.32 for something like speed or strength. I prefer to use my boosts for the "expensive" categories.
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| | | 234 | PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 14:57
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Ref the skill that i'm training has a .6 difference between Normal and Intense. From what I had read it's best to try and train on skills you have lower and you wouldn't use your Level gain on. So say you really thing you need more stamnia but that would only be .3 gain, you should work on agility and a .4 gain and just use a skill point on stamina.
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| | | 235 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 14:57
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Not me, Punk. It seems like it should have an effect, so, I plan on using some training there during the season as it will be cheaper option (see my previous post).
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| | | 236 | barilko6
ID: 180102816
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 14:58
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Quick question, is the only reason we are not boosting because of the lost XP?
Because of a 40 day season, the difference of two levels worth of XP would be 360 XP, not nearly enough for me to boost up another level through XP.
If its a cash issue, I don't plan on asking for a re-negotiation on my contract, and would purchase all new LvL 8 equipment when I need to at that time.
If its a save money on contracts for the team issue, if we are going to boost up just before the playoffs anyways, by the time my contract is to be redone, I will be at the exact same level at that point anyways.
Am I missing something here?
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| | | 237 | PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 14:58
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I guess i'm agreeing with you, but then not sure what you mean by "Not me punk" aren't you saying the same thing?
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| | | 238 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 15:00
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Re: 225 You'd think that their daily salary would make enough to get equipment. But some people are underpaid currently. My gut is to train normal for today and then normal or relaxed after that.
As far as paying, I just sent emails to a few people asking them to check this game out and even if they didn't want to play right now, it would give a referral credit and if they changed their mind later, then they'd have a player already who was training and giaing xp for later. But they had to also log on the next day. I have a few who didn't come back the next day, etc. and a couple did but didn't process until today so I spent 4.50 to make sure I got the boost last night to help the team going forward. I could have spent the 2.50 and been fine as well. I was one referral away which has now processed. Point is if you can get a few people to use your referral create the player and log on the next day, you can add thing sup quickly. Best thing, as Twarpy pointed out, you don't even need a vaild email for it to work, just has to be a different IP addy from where you are.
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| | | 239 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 15:07
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Re: 236
The players union has a minimum contract you can make. So when you level, your contract is automatically boosted to that minimum level if you were below that previously.
I think we will all feel a lot better if we sell enough season tickets. I have discounted them 20% in hopes our base is good. Have also priced our tix and concessions strategically.
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| | | 240 | PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 15:12
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This is what i'm saying...
Tonight i'm going to train Vision for .54 for $800. If it was normal it would be .48 for $300, or .41 for $40. Sure the cost efficent one is $40, but since tonight we don't have to worry about gaining back energy i'd rather gain the .13 extra points on the skill and not worry about the money this one time.
So i'm gaining .54 for vision, alternitively I could add... .43 Agility, .41 Speed, .41 Stamina, .39 Strength. But those skills I would use a Skill point when I level more than I would on Vision. So i'm spending the $800 and getting over .1 gain on all of those skills while doing it.
Does that way make more sense?
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| | | 241 | barilko6
ID: 180102816
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 15:12
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But judging from contracts I have seen, I would not be below the minimum with my $32K contract anytime soon, as I have seen level 10 guys with the same figure.
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| | | 242 | leggestand
Leader
ID: 451036518
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 15:18
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Haha, Punk. I was posting 235 in response to your 232. I agree with your 234.
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| | | 243 | Little M
ID: 381111416
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 15:19
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They said that they would be cracking down on invalid e-mails used in referals, but they are busy now getting set up for Season 2.
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| | | 244 | GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 15:23
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Read my comment on the Defensive thread in the Forum.
Kind of in-line with dprs 221.
Also see my thread on Advance Scouting.
Cliff
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| | | 245 | PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 15:30
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Now it makes sense Legg, I was confused like whaaaaaa wait we're saying the same! Haha
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| | | 246 | PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 15:31
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Bort -
Heads up to all players:
We are aware of some referral scheming going on in the game by faking referrals from a bunch of users, using fake email addresses and user names, and then letting the accounts go inactive after a couple days, or by having friends sign up for multiple accounts referred by a few people.
You know who you are.
Some people are under the impression that we don't care or don't notice as long as the multiple accounts from your IP go inactive. That assumption is false.
We keep logs of everything that goes on here and we can (and will) track you down. Just because we have been busy lately doesn't mean we aren't paying attention to people stealing from us.
I will make it clear:
We will give you this one warning and a chance to clean up your act. If you are caught making fake referrals, your account and every account involved in the scheme run the risk of being banned. Please read the Terms of Use linked at the bottom of every page.
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| | | 247 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 15:35
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It's a good thing my referrals are legit. ;)
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| | | 248 | weykool
ID: 2842717
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 15:37
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Punk:
The only problem I see with using your traing for vision is how useful will it be?
Seems like there is a reason the other skills are harder to train for in that they offer more benefit for each point gained.
As for the Fake money issue I think we all need to chill until we see what kind of revenue can be generated.
Investing as much as we can in our players will have a return at the gate and consessions.
As players we dont need to spend more than we need.
If we have enough money for the training and equipment that is needed then i see no point in wanting more.
For right now we need to error on the side of caution as management has done.
I would bet gobs of real money that in a few days the discussions will be about how the team should spend all the surplus money.
But until there is actually a surplus I think the financial decisions have been good.
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| | | 249 | Doug
ID: 321302615
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 15:38
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My two cents is we should kind of cool our jets on the "to boost or not to boost" question. Let's see how our first game goes. Let's see where the other teams in our league are at skill-wise. Let's see how much money we make from ticket sales. Just wait until we play a game or two and we'll have a lot more information. If we decide it would be beneficial for everyone to boost a level or two (or certain players to do so), that might make sense. But I think let's all just chill for a few days and see how things shake out before making any more changes.
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| | | 250 | barilko6
ID: 180102816
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 15:39
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Skills are harder to train for the higher they get. If you have really high stamina, it will be harder and harder to train for. I think vision is important for RB, QB, and a number of other positions that require that skill.
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| | | 251 | Little M
ID: 381111416
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 15:39
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I am following the same strategy today as Punk in post 240.
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| | | 252 | PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 15:40
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I'm doing vision because I know it's good for my D player, but I'm also more inclinded to gain other skills during my LVL boosts than doing Vision.
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| | | 253 | weykool
ID: 2842717
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 15:48
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Punk:
I think my point is if you need strength to make a tackle the vision might help you anticipate where you need to be but you will lack the strength to make the tackle.
Just saying instead of training 4 vision and boosting 1 strength your player might be better off by training 2 speed, 1 strength and boosting 1 strength.
Just throwing it out there as a thought.
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| | | 254 | PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 15:51
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Yeah I know what you mean, i'm just looking at it with a more bang for my buck. I can gain .11+ on Vision than any of those other skills tonight.
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| | | 255 | Jack Hammers
Donor
ID: 236482918
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 15:56
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I have gone relatively heavy with vision also, My players first attributes enhanced were strength speed tackling and vision. Not much confidence and stamina as these are things I think can worked on in the next few weeks. and the fact we have 5 linebackers that can rotate.
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| | | 256 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 15:57
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Did we ever decide on a new team name and/or stadium?
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| | | 257 | Jack Hammers
Donor
ID: 236482918
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 15:58
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although I have added with equipment
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| | | 258 | Jack Hammers
Donor
ID: 236482918
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 16:00
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re 257 added stamina
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| | | 259 | JTSERB
Donor
ID: 481020120
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 16:12
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Team Stadium is: Guru Dome
I had to get some sleep last night and as of 1230 AM central there was no team name set yet.
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| | | 260 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 17:10
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Well the team name was agreed to be Indy Gurupies but I said hold on a minute and AIMed J for his input. He thought Indy Gurupies was fine but relaly likes the ATT commercial that names a bunch of cities together. i came up with something like Indiphilamilanta jsut throwing four cities together. We all kind of liked it. It was late so we haven't made that the official name. Also tried some variations but kept coming back to my original one. Kyle kept tlaking about Nashville and New Orleans teams in our div.and we'r ein an American Conference so why not a name like J suggested?!?!?
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| | | 261 | PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 17:21
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Memphis is our first game, 46 hours away!
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| | | 262 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 17:23
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Schedule and Scores
Date Opponent Score
04/27/2008 Memphis Crocodiles Matchup
04/29/2008 at New Orleans Where Y'ats Matchup
05/01/2008 Bowdoin Polar Bears Matchup
05/03/2008 at Atlanta Samurai Matchup
05/05/2008 Vermont Icestorm Matchup
05/07/2008 Destin Pigskin Pimps Matchup
05/09/2008 at Detroit Outlaws Matchup
05/11/2008 Rhode Island Wolves Matchup
05/13/2008 at Heath Falcons Matchup
05/15/2008 Green Bay Blizzard Matchup
05/17/2008 at Nashville Psychotic Smilies Matchup
05/19/2008 Nashville Longshots Matchup
05/21/2008 at Bloomington Bears Matchup
05/23/2008 Washington WarDogs Matchup
05/25/2008 at Georgia Dawgs Matchup
05/27/2008 at Tulsa CPU Giants Matchup
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| | | 263 | youngroman
ID: 3751268
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 17:26
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Schedule is out. first game is a home game against Memphis. they have lots of Level 1 players so it seems that we should be the favorites in this one.
the real challenge comes in game 2 against New Orleans. they are loaded with weapons on both sides of the ball.
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| | | 264 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 17:31
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Looking at rankigns and I'm not as confident. Memphis has some strengths too. But their lvl 1s should be at a disadvantage as stated.
I am unable to chagne the team name. So either Kyle has to do it or we're stuck with what we have. I did chagne the Stadium name this morning though. It will prob need to change though if we can't change the Blue Jays. Maybe the Bird's Nest or something stupid like that. ;)
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| | | 265 | PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 17:33
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Of the two teams i'm on, one plays their games one day, then ours plays the next day.
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| | | 266 | barilko6
ID: 180102816
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 17:34
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I am looking at our first 5 opponents and they seem pretty tough.
Our first easy matchup appears to be Destin.
Still wondering if holding back on boosting is our best strategy, as I haven't really heard any good reasoning that addressed my previously listed questions.
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| | | 267 | JTSERB
Donor
ID: 481020120
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 17:38
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They do have alot a few level 1's, but they are rated higher then us overall.. I wouldn't deem us the favorite just yet :)
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| | | 268 | JTSERB
Donor
ID: 481020120
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 17:41
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Barilko, it is being discussed, there is a possibility we might go ahead and boost now. Ill keep you informed consensus will be drawn by tonight.
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| | | 269 | Little M
ID: 381111416
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 17:43
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We should probably keep strategy discussions to the other board.
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| | | 270 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 17:44
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B6, I honestly don't know. From what I had been reading, I thought it was best to do it middle and late season. But obviously if you could have boosted yesterday and under lvl 4 that would have been the day to do it as I did.
There are people here who know more than I do. I am really working hard on the financial aspect. Spent a few hours the last couple days on pricing, forecasting, projecting and creating a budget. I'll know so much more in the next few days.
I have the points to boost as well if need be. Seeing our matchups and how strong Memphis' Offense is and how weak our passign D is, kinda got me worried. Their D looks really weak though too. Our O could be huge and our D could look horrible after game 1. They have a lvl 8 HB.
Wiggs check your PMs.
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| | | 271 | barilko6
ID: 180102816
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 17:45
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Yeah, I am not trying to stir trouble at all, and will go with what everyone decides, just with my post 236, I have a lot of questions in what the strategies involved would be in holding back.
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| | | 272 | PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 17:51
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Posted some in the D Thread, check it out, seems the opp of what Ref said haha.
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| | | 273 | weykool
ID: 2842717
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 17:59
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So how much cash does the team have now?
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| | | 274 | PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 18:00
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Looks like almost $2M. What % of our tickets did we sell season style Ref?
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| | | 275 | weykool
ID: 2842717
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 18:03
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Looks like I woulda won my bets for cashflow.
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| | | 276 | PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 18:20
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Hey Serb, I don't think he took out a loan, I think it was the season tickets being sold, unless we took out a loan too.
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| | | 277 | weykool
ID: 2842717
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 18:25
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The cash was for season ticket sales and advance ticket sales.
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| | | 278 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 18:26
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It was season tickets sold. I'm still figureing things out but I had budgeted for 2000 regular and 200 club.
We sold 909 regular and all 600 club. I should have left prices as expected or cut them a bit more I'm guessing. Some teams REALLY slashed their prices. But if we do better in the season, it means more cash come gameday as there isn't a discount. Bad thing is that more people=more concessions and that would make up for less money received from ticket prices.
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| | | 279 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 18:26
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Tickets Sold per Home Game
Game Date Opponent 100 Sdln 100 Sdln Club 100 Crnr 100 EZ 200 Sdln 200 Sdln Club 200 Sdln Suite 200 Crnr 200 EZ 300 Sdln
All Season Ticket Sales 909 600 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
04/27/2008 Memphis Crocodiles 7695 600 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
05/01/2008 Bowdoin Polar Bears 6473 600 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
05/05/2008 Vermont Icestorm 5252 600 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
05/07/2008 Destin Pigskin Pimps 4030 600 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
05/11/2008 Rhode Island Wolves 2809 600 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
05/15/2008 Green Bay Blizzard 1587 600 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
05/19/2008 Nashville Longshots 909 600 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
05/23/2008 Washington WarDogs 909 600 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
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| | | 280 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 18:27
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No wait!!!
Those are our per game sales!!!
Like I said still figureing things out. Going to avg them. Looks like I did a good job of pricing htem afterall!
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| | | 281 | weykool
ID: 2842717
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 18:28
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Here is the schedule for the Berzerks:
Date Opponent
4/26/08 Miami Cyclones
4/28/08 at Las Vegas Stunners
4/30/08 Ambridge Bridgade
5/2/08 at Bel Air Beardogs
5/4/08 Scottsdale Sun Demons
5/6/08 New Brunswick n00bs
5/8/08 at Spicewood Longhorns
5/10/08 Dallas Red Raiders
5/12/08 at Portland Hitmen
5/14/08 Waco Davidians
5/16/08 at Chicago Clams
5/18/08 Grand Haven Mist
5/20/08 at Denver Pirates
5/22/08 Hartford Hellhounds
5/24/08 at Oakland Wizards
5/26/08 at Orlando Ninjas
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| | | 282 | PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 18:28
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Bort said tonight he will be running more of the ticket sales, but I believe the season tickets are all done now.
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| | | 283 | weykool
ID: 2842717
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 18:30
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Game Date Opponent 100 Sdln 100 Sdln Club
All Season Ticket Sales 866 640
4/26/08 Miami Cyclones 7711 640
4/30/08 Ambridge Bridgade 6478 640
5/4/08 Scottsdale Sun Demons 5246 640
5/6/08 New Brunswick n00bs 4014 640
5/10/08 Dallas Red Raiders 2782 640
5/14/08 Waco Davidians 1550 640
5/18/08 Grand Haven Mist 866 640
5/22/08 Hartford Hellhounds 866 640
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| | | 284 | weykool
ID: 2842717
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 18:34
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Ref what were your ticket prices set at?
We added 40 club seats and sold out.
I will try adding more seats and raising the price to see what happens.
Our prices were $42 and $95 with a 20% discount.
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| | | 285 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 18:34
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Well we are almost sold out for our first game on Sunday.
After looking at things again, it shows we sold 909 Season tickets and sold out of the club seats. Could hvae priced the club seats higher. But we make more money on game day sales since there is no 20% discount.
Keep in mind, in pro sports, opening day is almost always good for a new team esp. Game 2 drops off. We need to have a great showing.
Still we've sold quite a bit of tickets for game 2 as well. I think each night it processes more tickets sold. The season tickets should all be sold for every team who set up their pricing correctly.
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| | | 286 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 18:37
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We could have added club seats. Our prices are 40.33 and 92.66 w/20% discount. Some of the teams I was looking at had much higher pices but those teams were really good last year. I didn't want to overprice and not have the funds.
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| | | 287 | weykool
ID: 2842717
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 18:40
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Kyle:
What do you think about adding me as a GM and allowing me to see the stadium/Financing?
I can do the same for Ref if he puts a player on the Berzerk.
If we work together we might be able to dial in faster on what works and doesnt work.
For instance will you get more revenue on consessions if you raise or lower prices?
If raise prices is it better to raise them 5% or 10%.
When you add new seats what is the quicker payback?
A higher price or a lower price?
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| | | 288 | weykool
ID: 2842717
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 18:42
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92.66 is with the discount or before discount?
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| | | 289 | JTSERB
Donor
ID: 481020120
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 18:44
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I am pretty sure you do not need to be on a team to be a GM of it.
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| | | 290 | weykool
ID: 2842717
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 18:45
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But we need the players......
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| | | 291 | youngroman
ID: 3751268
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 18:52
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we could add some Club seats because of the high demand. we currently have 300 out of 630 possible in both sections. the question is how long this investment would take to amortize at a price of 25k per 10 seats. if I count this right and we get $110 out of them (including concessions), it would take nearly 3 years to get that money back. that is a long time for a return on invest. on the other hand it is only 120 real-life days.
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| | | 292 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 18:54
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Yeah that's why we decided against it. But I should ahve upped the prices fo the club seats we do have. If we add them now I think it takes a season for them to be available. At least it does when you add a section. Hell it's 10K for 10 regular seats.
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| | | 293 | PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 18:55
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I think you can add seats now, but can't add sections.
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| | | 294 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 18:58
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Apr 25, 2008 $590,438.21 Season Ticket Sales
Apr 25, 2008 $903,069.36 Ticket Sales
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| | | 295 | GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 19:03
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You can add seats now and they are available right away.
Sections can only be added during the off season.
Cliff
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| | | 296 | weykool
ID: 2842717
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 19:05
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We spent 100,000 on club seats.
The way I figure it we made back 24,320 this year.
This would suggest 4 years in order to pay back the cost.
Will need to wait and see what kind of consessions we get.
I am thining about adding more Club seats and up the prices to see what the market will bear.
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| | | 297 | weykool
ID: 2842717
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 19:14
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I think it is safe to say that we sold our club seats for far less than we should have.
We were at $95 ($76 with the discount) and we still sold out.
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Donor
ID: 481020120
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 19:18
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weykool I told tree yesterday i have a LB Joe Urlacher who is cheap level 2 LB.. he is on the Rita Tigers.. try to work out a trade if you like.
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| | | 299 | weykool
ID: 2842717
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 19:27
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Tree can be a slacker sometimes I will get him to make an offer.
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Donor
ID: 052753312
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 19:52
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In regards to training on intense the next 2 days. Yes, it sounds perfect. Extra stats and we don't have to worry about the energy. Let me break something down for you:
Let's say I trained on intense these next 2 days. It'll cost me $1600 total to do that on level 4 ($800 X 2 days). I gain 0.18 more in my attribute than if I train on relaxed. I don't gain anymore EXP, I don't gain anything special. If I train on relaxed I pay $80 ($40 x 2 days). I lose that extra 0.18 I gain. But here's what I gain. $1520 Don't think that's a lot? That's 3 pieces of equipment. 3 pieces of equipment are 1 point a piece in any category I want. So let's say I want a speed, a stamina and a strength. I gain 1 in each. Or maybe all 3 in the category I planned to train on intense for. That's 3 points in that category.
So to conclude train on Intense gain 0.18 in stats.
Train on relaxed gain 3 in stats.
3>0.18 in my book.
It also allows you to put money away for that fancy level 8 equipment you all want so badly.
I am posting this in both leagues so you get the point.
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Donor
ID: 481020120
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 19:53
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Team stand on boosting
We would like to wait until after game one of our season before we decide on when to boost and what to boost at. I think with a game under our belt we will further understand the game and decide if we need to boost right away, increments during the season, or the end of the season.
While I cannot control each and every one of yours players (They are yours after-all). I would like to please ask you to hold off on boosting until after the first game is complete. After the first game we can see where we “stack up”
Training
We are not sending any restrictions out on what level we feel each player should train at (Relaxed, Normal, or Intense), but we would like to remind everyone that we cannot just hand out money to each and every player every-time they need something or run out of cash. This is part of your responsibility to maintain your cash flow. You will need it for equipment in the future (which gets a lot more expensive) and for training. While we promised negotiations and cash bonuses for player to help develop your character, you have to also help us by planning a smart regimen.
In the next few days I plan to have the whole team scouted (My work and the assistance work). After the scouts are down each player will be sent a report on what we feel they need to improve at and what we expect from them in the future. I’m sure there will be some cases in which the player disagrees, but I assure you every piece of advice we give you is for the betterment of the team.
I would like to thank all players for their diligent work. We haven’t even played a single game and I would be willing to be we have studied this more than any other team in our league. The power of the Gurupies never ceases to amaze me.
Sincerely
Head Coach JT
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ID: 21041187
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 20:01
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How do I tell what the pieces of equipment do? Or does it not matter what color I pick?
Also, I bought some extra flex points. What positions are still needed for the Rotoguru B team? I would prefer not to make a OT, but I will if that is what is needed.
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| | | 303 | JTSERB
Donor
ID: 481020120
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 20:08
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Color does not matter.
You can make a piece of equip do anything you want. Each one add +1 to whatever attribute you want. Except Custom which cost Flex points and you can spread out +6 any which way you would like.
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| | | 304 | JTSERB
Donor
ID: 481020120
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 20:11
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Frick I see you dont have equipment of Gavin Avelsa. You need to purchase them. and use your flex on the Custom category if you have enough. These are vital additions to your player. With the max boost of equip at level 4 he will receive up to +10 in his cats depending on how you spread it out
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| | | 305 | Tree
ID: 143382516
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 20:15
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What positions are still needed for the Rotoguru B team? I would prefer not to make a OT, but I will if that is what is needed.
Frick -
we still need the following on RGB Berzerk:
TE
LOT
ROT
LG
RG
NT
LDE
RDE
MLB
LOLB
ROLB
CB
SS
P
i do have an offer out to a TE, so that might be filled. if you don't want to be an offensive linemen, how about a CB, SS, or an LB?
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| | | 306 | Weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 20:17
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Kyle you need to keep in mind that the equipment is a one time thing until you get to Level 8.
The question isnt 3 vs 0.18 it should be 4 AND +0.18
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| | | 307 | Donkey Hunter
ID: 4341818
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 20:19
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From someone else on the message board. Looks like the defense is alright and the offense needs some work.
Defense Rankings
(Based on player level only)
defense
New Orleans 73
Vermont 64
Nashville 58
Heath 47
Indy 47
Atlanta 46
Bowdoin 43
Bloomington 42
Georgia 39
Nashville 38
Washington 34
Detroit 32
Green Bay 32
Memphis 31
Rhode Island 29
Destin 24
Offense Rankings
(Based on player level only)
Offense
New Orleans 70
Vermont 63
Nashville 62
Atlanta 61
Bowdoin 57
Bloomington 53
Heath 53
Nashville 51
Georgia 47
Memphis 44
Green Bay 42
Rhode Island 42
Indy 41
Destin 31
Detroit 30
Washington 30
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| | | 308 | Tree
ID: 143382516
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 20:37
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just a heads up - there is something funny going on with the stadiums regarding seating and revenue.
i'm on the boards now researching it, but the team may not have made as much on ticket revenue as it thought.
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| | | 309 | Frick
ID: 21041187
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 20:46
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I created Earl Lackher (LB)
Lvl 1
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| | | 310 | Tree
ID: 143382516
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 20:53
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offer sent
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| | | 311 | PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 21:06
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If you already have your 4 pieces of equip you're just gaining those extra points or money. This is only for two days. I would be gaining .26 for my char extra over those two days.
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| | | 312 | Seward Norse
ID: 58082219
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 21:24
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The Memphis Crocodiles are owned by the guy who was the GM of the Pittsburgh Iron Men last season, and had several players on that team. I don't have any more time now, but someone may be interested in the Iron Men's last games play-by-plays, so here it is. Not sure what kind of role he had as the GM, but it's something... Links not working for me for some reason:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=8223&mode=pbp
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| | | 313 | JTSERB
Donor
ID: 481020120
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 21:28
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I have just went over every player on our teams. I checked the equipment. I got some bad results :(
There are 3 Players without equipment at all
There are 2 players with some equipment.
There are 26 player without custom equip.
Custom equip cost flex points so i can understand why you might now have it, but it is very valuable if you can afford it.
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| | | 314 | JTSERB
Donor
ID: 481020120
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 21:34
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Seward Norse, you were one of the players that didnt have any equipment purchased. Can you please buy all 5 of them? This doesnt cost flex points it just cost game money, which is why we gave everyone bonus money. After you purchase it make sure you equip please.
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| | | 315 | Seward Norse
ID: 58082219
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 21:40
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I bought 2 pieces earlier today and will finish it up now.
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| | | 317 | Tree
ID: 143382516
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 21:45
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Frick - can you open up your attributes on earl lackher so your teammates can see them?
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| | | 318 | Weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 21:49
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Player introduction:
Buck Naked
Im sure most of probably will reconize Buck from the Debbie Does series and his work on Beaver Hunt 4 and 19.
After learning the ins and outs of his former profession he got a little worn out from all the ups and downs and decide to to try his hand at football.
It didnt sit right with him to be getting paid to do something that he would pay to do.
He may not be the best of football players but he is definitly someone you want to hang out with.
He has plenty of connections from his last job and can hook you up with someone you probably already have film/video on.
He is a natural at training as repetition has been ingrained into his training regimine.
1-2-3 squat is no different to him than: In-Out- Repeat.
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ID: 143382516
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 21:51
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***important note for RGB Berzerk players***
the following players do not have equipment on their players. remember, you have to buy it, and then "equip" yourself.
our game is in about 15 hours, so if you could do this immediately, it would help.
No One - J
Exorcist - Kyle
Earl Lackher - Frick
thanks,
Tree
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| | | 320 | JTSERB
Donor
ID: 481020120
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 21:56
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I posted in blitz about this, sent personal messages also.
Blue Hen - Baloo Hen
Ferl - Ferl Da Perl
RSF - Roman Gabriel
You guys all have no equipment. You need to purchase the equipment and equip it. This is why signing bonuses were given out. Please do this before the first game.
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| | | 321 | JTSERB
Donor
ID: 481020120
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 21:57
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Where is my trade Weykool, Tree? :)
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 22:07
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Update:
Tickets Sold per Home Game
Game Date Opponent 100 Sdln 100 Sdln Club 100 Crnr 100 EZ 200 Sdln 200 Sdln Club 200 Sdln Suite 200 Crnr 200 EZ 300 Sdln
All Season Ticket Sales 810 600 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
04/27/2008 Memphis Crocodiles 8000 600 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
05/01/2008 Bowdoin Polar Bears 8000 600 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
05/05/2008 Vermont Icestorm 7813 600 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
05/07/2008 Destin Pigskin Pimps 6205 600 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
05/11/2008 Rhode Island Wolves 4314 600 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
05/15/2008 Green Bay Blizzard 2140 600 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
05/19/2008 Nashville Longshots 810 600 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
05/23/2008 Washington WarDogs 810 600 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
We;ve now sold out the first two games and close to sellin gout the third. Wonder if we should raise prices a little lol!!
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| | | 323 | Tree
ID: 143382516
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 22:09
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Serb - i must have missed a post.
what trade?
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| | | 324 | Weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 22:09
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Trade offer sent
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| | | 325 | PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 22:13
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Ref is this the real tickets though? Were we one of the teams showing double ticket amount sold?
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| | | 326 | Doug
ID: 283451821
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 22:34
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Well, if our 100 Sideline seating capacity is 8000, the odds seem pretty low that we've sold exactly 4000 tickets for 2 games in a row, so I'd think these are the real numbers. Now if our capacity is 4000, then yeah, it's probably double. :p
Assuming the former, if we can raise ticket prices a shade for games later in the season then we might do so... but I'd keep it moderate... 5%-10% maybe and see what happens. You want to keep the stands filled to maximize concession sales. If we can get a few more bucks for tix and still fill the stands though, let's do it! I think our performance the first couple games will likely affect sales as well. Let's hope for a week 1 win.
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 23:09
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Yeah we jsut added 10 club seats. I raised the prices big time. Just need to sell 10. IF they don't sell I can cut the price. If they do, I sitll hae a day I can add more seats before opening day. it's going to take at least two years to make back our investment. But at least we know now that club seats are selling well for us. If we win, we can raise tickets even more. We do have a low income fan base though. Guess we are in Indianapolis afterall LOL!!!
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| | | 329 | Weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Fri, Apr 25, 2008, 23:57
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Ref:
I did the same thing.
I added 10 seats to both sides and raised the price to $125.
Dont forget there will be added concession revenue for those seats.
Also next year I may try jacking the prices up even higher or lower the discounts for all seeats.
I think it will be safe to say there will be far more than enough money to pay for people equipment upgrades.
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 00:46
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Yeah. I put out tickets higher than that. I can lower than tomorrow if need be since we don't play until Sunday.
This CPU says our WRs and Passing game is way unerachieving. Also says our corners are below average. Going to let the coaches see what they think. But there aer several contracts that I need to up. Starting with WRs. Going to wait and see if any of them need to boost first. I'm leaning toward boosting one level myself. We only have 3 corners and one corner is our Devin Hester so we have a few issues. As I look at other teams, I'm starting to get REALLY nervous. We have more money now thatn we originally anticipated at this point, so time to take care of those who need it.
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| | | 331 | dpr
ID: 1733917
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 00:55
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I have the flex points to boost and my stamina could use a few points to so just llet me know if I should us them
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 00:59
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dpr, you and punk and JT are the coaches, you decide. I have the money to up the contracts.
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ID: 1733917
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 01:02
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alright well I thik JT said we are waiting til after the first game to see how things play out.
I am not sure why our receiving receives such a low rating. The player are level 4 which is as good as we are anywhere. Maybe it is a result of having tightends specced to block. Also our stamina as a group of WRs is low so maybe that is a factor although it is low across the board.
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| | | 334 | Doug
ID: 321302615
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 01:02
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Yep let's wait a game or two and see rather than trying to guess at it. I don't want to boost if not needed, but if our CBs are consistently getting winded I'll be happy to do it to raise stamina.
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ID: 143382516
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 01:06
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if you guys need Sweet 'n' Sour to boost, let me know...or, whatever you need me to do.
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| | | 336 | Weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 01:23
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JT:
We made an offer to your current boss.
We offered a LV 4 CPU kicker and 5K to cover your bonus.
He wanted a human player back for you.
Since we dont have any spare human players at the moment I sent him a PM asking if there was something else we could work out.
I will keep you informed as to trade talk negotiations.
My understanding is you are LV1?
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| | | 337 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 01:53
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Yeah, Tree is level 3 WR.
A lot has changed today. I am not sure where we will be at tomorrow. But I am anticipating boosting one level myself tomorrow (Sat).
Just sayig it's no longer about money in the short term.
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| | | 338 | JTSERB
Donor
ID: 481020120
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 04:53
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He is a level 2 weykool
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| | | 339 | barilko6
ID: 180102816
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 07:47
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JTSerb/Kyle, I sent you fellas a pm...
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| | | 340 | barilko6
ID: 180102816
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 10:28
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Just had my first game with my other RB, he has a 23.2 stamina and he lost 26 EN.
He is a LVL 7 guy and here are my game stats:
13 Carries for 38 Yards, 0 TD's 2 Rec. 2Yds, 1 Fumble.
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| | | 341 | barilko6
ID: 180102816
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 10:29
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I was also involved in 62 plays
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| | | 342 | barilko6
ID: 180102816
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 10:49
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Its kinda of cool, you can check out a reply of every single play your player was involved in:
Bill Barilko takes it 8.5 yards
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| | | 343 | PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 11:12
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If some do plan on boosting before our first game, it only makes sense to tomorrow morning after we gain our Exp/Training just for the little bit extra before the next level.
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| | | 344 | wiggs
Sustainer
ID: 04991311
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 11:13
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i agree punk.
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| | | 345 | Jack Hammers
Donor
ID: 236482918
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 11:35
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Re 342
Those guys are using 5 DB's and only 2 linebackers, You should get that 8.5 all day
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ID: 180102816
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 12:11
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re: 345
Actually that was my 4 yard gain. It was late in the game, and the other team was in prevent defense, hence the extra DBs.
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Donor
ID: 539581218
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 12:34
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I'm still working on things from the financial aspect. I added a total of 20 club seats and boosted teh prices big time as well as boosted the normal tickets. All of the Club seats sold out except for the last two games. We have also sold out for the first three games for all seats. I have raised ticket prices more. If sales slow down, we can always pull them back.
Seattle Zen's G is listed as Inactive. I looked and apparently if they don't log in for a couple days you get that listing. I am wondering if IAs can still play. I would think they can since CPU guys can play!!!
If you raise in levels and thin kyou need more money, send me a note so I can evaluate things. Same goes for training/equipment (eq).
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| | | 348 | PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 12:37
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Yeah I believe they show up as inactive if they haven't logged into the game for 2 days.
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| | | 349 | wiggs
Sustainer
ID: 04991311
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 12:43
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just out of curiosity, who among us have the flex point to boost if we decide to boost, and how many levels can you do?
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| | | 350 | RebelFan
Sustainer
ID: 014833716
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 12:45
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Both my saftey and Joe Punk have the flex points to boost three levels each. And punk will still have enough to buy a +6 custom equipment.
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| | | 351 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 12:48
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i can go up 2 levels i believe. i'll probably eventually throw a couple bucks into my guy eventually, but kinda wanna see if I can compete without "steroids" :)
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| | | 352 | barilko6
ID: 180102816
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 12:50
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I can boost two levels to max out.
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| | | 353 | PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 12:50
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3
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| | | 354 | blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 12:50
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Ref talked me through some stuff. I bought equipment and boosted. I bought flex points to be able to do it. So far, so good. Right on target with my aim to be the Antonio Gates of football.
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| | | 355 | Little M
ID: 53512610
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 12:51
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I can go up at least one level, probably 3.
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| | | 356 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 12:57
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I can go up 2 right now and another one as soon as one of my 2 pending referrals logs on.
What scares me is that how bad Memphis looks and the computer says they are better than us. Rating a 21 to our 18. And yes that is out of 100. It's a computer game so, I take heed in that.
Our receiving is a 15 and in the RED. Our passing is an 18 and in the RED. Our pass defense is 18 and in the RED. They are starting to boost and their K is now equal to ours. If they boost other places, we will go down even farther. New Orleans will likely smoke us regardless, but we play Memphis at their place and we really need to win that one from a financial aspect as well.
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| | | 357 | Jack Hammers
Donor
ID: 236482918
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 12:58
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Ronnie Boozer is willing to inject a needle directly into his brain if its needed, Whatever the max is
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| | | 358 | barilko6
ID: 180102816
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 12:59
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We need to get the new and improved Blue Hen into the starting lineup pronto!!!
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| | | 359 | Weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 13:00
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Ref are you interested in sharing info and strategy?
Seems with 2 teams we can learn a lot more if we work together.
From what I can see on the cash situation is that there is far more than enough to go around.
While it may take 2-3 season to pay back new construction each team really started with 500K cash and ticket revenue of 2 million.
Add to that whatever we get from cancessions and the annual budget could be somewhere between 2.5 and 3.5 million.
Given that the team will have excess money to spend I think the owners need to shift their thinking on budgeting.
There are only 2 things a team can spend money on...the stadium and players.
Investing money to improve players should mean more money in the long run to the team.
Better players=more fans at higher ticket prices=more money to upgrade the staduim and players.
Skimping on paying our players is not a good plan.
We need to think of our players as investments that if trained proplerly will yeild back more than they are getting paid.
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| | | 360 | wiggs
Sustainer
ID: 04991311
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 13:10
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After doing alot of research on other teams and seeing what happened on my team last year i really think we need to boost our QB, WR, and HB. Our offense is below alot of teams and last year if you were not favored on Offense you lost. I dont know if that is an accurate account of how things will go, or if it was just coincidence, but i would like to see us become the favorite. I think we have the money to allow some players to boost. We also created new seats because we have been selling out, we cant afford to lose our 1st week. Especially because we play NO next week and that is going to be a real tough game.
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| | | 361 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 13:10
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Totaly agree on everythign you posted and that has been my philosophy all-along.
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| | | 362 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 13:11
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My post in 361 was in reference to wey in 359.
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| | | 363 | Doug
ID: 283451821
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 13:26
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We still haven't played a single game yet. I think all the boosting talk is nice in terms of knowing what our options are, but I think people are over-reacting to a little bit to a stat meter that we don't even know how it works or calculates itself to be talking about boosting before our first game even takes place.
I think having a balanced run/pass offense is good, particularly as it will allow us to adjust to the defense's weakness more effectively. Some weeks our HB sees the rock a bit more, other weeks the WR/TEs... but it shouldn't really have a dramatic affect on plays/XPs I wouldn't think.
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| | | 364 | wiggs
Sustainer
ID: 04991311
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 13:33
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Doug, I understand what you are saying, but the difference is i have played a game before, and we were out matched all 3 and lost all 3.
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| | | 365 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 13:51
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Kyle, wiggs and I are going through our roster and several of us have misappropriated skill points. Some are goingto need to boost just to fix those we think. I'll let Kyle and the coaches speak more to it as they've studied things more than me. Plus we are so shallow at some positions, we really are going to need stamina which we lack at many positions.
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| | | 366 | dpr
ID: 1733917
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 14:29
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I can boost my WR 3 times if needed
I feel I should use at least one to get my stamina up but I can do more if needed
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| | | 367 | JTSERB
ID: 5045283
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 14:54
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Ill be around tonight around 7. Will get an update on everything then and looks at the depth chart
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| | | 368 | dpr
ID: 1733917
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 15:00
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btw I am holding off on scouting as with boosting it could really change things which means i will likely be doing it tomorrow morning.
A quick perusal shows that this team is pretty much the opposite of how i thought we were against an average team. I wanted to run inside they have good DT and bad DE. I wanted to pass mainly to WR they have better corners then safeties and LB. I didnt want to go deep much they have bad safeties. Not sure how to shake out the differing notiions
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| | | 370 | Weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 15:08
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Actually not too bad considering all the level 1-2 players we have.
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| | | 371 | Weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 15:09
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$92,000 in consession sales.
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| | | 372 | Little M
ID: 381111416
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 15:10
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RGB Berzerk lose 10-0. Anyone with a player on the team want to comment on stamina, energy, experience gained, etc?
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| | | 373 | Ref
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ID: 539581218
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 15:10
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Kyle is working on every single player to figure out what each one needs. He is going to recommend to everyone what they need to do right now. This will include boostign and wehre those skill points need to be. After looking at things, he sees where Wiggs and myself is coming from.
Please do not boost until he is finished. It should be done shortly.
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| | | 374 | J
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ID: 049346417
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 15:18
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No One played 39 plays, caught all 3 balls thrown his way for 20yds, lost 11 in energy, now at 935XP (No clue where I was before this game, probably should've taken note of that)
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| | | 375 | J
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ID: 049346417
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 15:20
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I guess I should mention that he's got stamina of 15.59 at level 1.
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| | | 376 | Weykool
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ID: 41750315
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 15:28
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My level 1 Kicker can only punt it 22.3 yards per kick.
My level 1 DE is down to 60 for energy.
Seems we should have a team of L4 and L5 by midseason.
At the end of season 3 there should be a whole crop of L8 players willing to sign to the A team for cheap.
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| | | 377 | Little M
ID: 381111416
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 15:48
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J, No One was started on day 37, so should have had 400XP before the game, which means he gained 535 for the game. At that rate, he should be leveling up every couple of games for the first part of the season.
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| | | 378 | GoatLocker
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ID: 060151121
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 16:14
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Hunker Down (stamina 24.6) played 39 plays, xp 553, energy 89
I Hit Hard (stamina 25.2) played 50 plays, 3 tackles, xp 559, energy 79
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| | | 379 | Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 16:15
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To the Coordinators:
I sent out a message to both of you regarding our WRs and CBs. I will also be sending out messages on our other positions later tonight. E-mail me with a time that will work to talk with you guys about strategy for tomorrows game.
To our WRs and CBs:
You will receive instructions from your Coordinators. Please follow them to the T. This is very critical for our game tomorrow.
To the other players:
You will be getting word from your coordinators after I talk with them about you. Don't boost until you hear from us on what to do. You may see other players boost around you, but don't be tempted to follow their lead. It's all part of a master plan for our chosen race...er... team. Thank you all for be so attentive to this game, I can only hope the enthusiasm remains high as the seasons progress.
JTSerb:
When I get time I'll send you my plan for these guys. I am running off for now but should be back around 5 or 6 cst to check back in.
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| | | 380 | dpr
ID: 1733917
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 16:23
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kyle I am goping out in five minutes for most of the day i will be around tomorrow but i am West Coast time so wont be up much before gametime
Also one thing based on the guides you gave me was that I had talked to sarge about being a speed receiver as we were all of the possession build. What you had for me was more or less within my line of thinking. You seem to be moving him in the possession direction. Also i doubt we can count on youngroman boosting as he hasnt already. maybe i am wrong tho.
sorry that my time is limited right now
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| | | 381 | blue hen
ID: 0022514
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 16:30
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Hamilton Granby is now available. He's a burner from Valdosta State. Though he's a cornerback, Granby returned kicks and punts in college and should do well in that role as a pro.
Given that they only have one human CB and no human returner, Granby should fit in well on RGB Berzerk.
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| | | 382 | Weykool
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ID: 41750315
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 17:07
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BH:
I sent you an offer.
At this point we will not ne able to guarantee a starting gig for anyone who joins the JV team but there should still be plent of playing time.
Is there a limit as to the number of times a player can level up from playing experience?
Or is 3 the number of times you can boost your player?
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| | | 383 | blue hen
ID: 0022514
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 17:20
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Thanks, Weykool. I used the bonus to get equipment and I am now blue in speed, agility, tackling and confidence. Looking forward to helping out the team.
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| | | 384 | Little M
ID: 381111416
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 17:21
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You can only boost 3 times per season, but there is no maximum number of leveling up from playing and practice experience.
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| | | 385 | Ref
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ID: 539581218
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 17:23
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3 is jsut the flex points boost per season max.
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| | | 386 | youngroman
ID: 3751268
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 17:35
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if a player really gains 500+ XP per game I see not much reason to boost my 2 players because they both will be Level 2 before the 2nd game and will level up every 4 days (2 games + 2 trainings)
first I want to see how we are doing against a team with equal strength (game 1) and a better team (game 2).
keep in mind: if we all boost our players it is good for this season and maybe the next 3 seasons, but then all players will be Level 30+ and will cost a ton and I am sure that this will not match the money we can make. so it may be a plus to have a few low-level players too that can operate on lower salary and still be valuable backups if needed.
Dear GM,
do you have numbers how much player salaries a team can afford per year? can we afford 30 Level 15 players next year or do we need to restructure after just 1 year?
I guess we should move this discussion to the GLB-forum.
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| | | 387 | wiggs
Sustainer
ID: 04991311
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 17:50
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i dont think you can expect to go up 500 xp every game. I dont know if that was a freaky thing or what, but last season i was gaining about 350 a game.
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| | | 388 | Little M
ID: 381111416
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 18:03
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I think that 500+ is the norm for Level 1 players that play at least 50 plays. This will decrease for higher levels, but no one knows by how much, but when you reach higher levels you will be getting fewer XP from playing.
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| | | 389 | wiggs
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ID: 04991311
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 18:06
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thing is most level 1s will not play 50 plays
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| | | 390 | Little M
ID: 381111416
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 18:35
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They do on the RGB Berzerker team.
From the Game Mechanics FAQ thread, it says:"Your game XP is largely dependent upon how many plays you are in per game. The number of plays you need to play to max out the XP is going to be around 50 plays. The amount of XP you get per game will also decrease as your level goes up. A very general scale of how much XP to expect is as follows: lvl 1, 600-700XP, lvl 4, 400-500XP, lvl 7, 300-400XP."
Bort has posted "Actually, XP gains are going to be modified in the future by the relative difference in team values. If you play a lousy team, you will get less XP than playing a team that's better than you.", but I don't know if this has been implimented.
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| | | 391 | Seward Norse
ID: 58082219
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 18:44
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Would it make sense to level up at different times per position? For example, since BH leveled up at TE early, wouldn't it make sense for one of the other TE's to level up gradually, and the third TE to level up at playoff time, or something like that?
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| | | 392 | GoatLocker
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ID: 060151121
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 19:15
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Both of my guys in post 378 are LVL 4, and you can see what they did in the game for the other team.
In this case they'll both be LVL 5 or very close after the next game.
Cliff
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| | | 393 | Doug
ID: 321302615
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 20:34
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My level 1 CB on the farm team got 488 XP for 40 plays.
Re: 379... how are we going to receive this information? PMs?
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| | | 394 | Doug
ID: 321302615
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 20:41
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Also, GoatLocker, are you sure about those XP numbers? Seems weird your level 4 guy who played 39 playes would get 100 more XP than my level 1 guy who played 40. Are you subtracting out the daily training we received last night? My guy also had 3 tackles and wound up with 80 energy.
The only other thing I don't know if it matters is that my guy's "play intensity" was set on relaxed since he's still low level, wanted to keep him on the field and not drop to 60 energy.
Actually, I think we should consider lowering the energy numbers for subbing out on the farm team... I don't mind dropping some energy but getting a few more plays/XP in. The extra XP is probably worth far more than the difference between training on relaxed or normal. I'd happily end a game between 60 and 70 energy so I can get back up to 90+ for next game if it meant I saw 50 plays and the CPU players saw a bit more pine.
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| | | 395 | GoatLocker
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ID: 060151121
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 20:57
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OK, how do I figure out what I got in XP for last nite.
I played both players on Hard.
Training in Relaxed will have both back to 100.
I was kind of shocked my C only had 39 plays.
Cliff
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| | | 396 | Kyle
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ID: 052753312
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 21:00
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Doug I can send you out your info. I'll include my AIM so we can discuss your guy if you want.
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| | | 397 | Ref
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ID: 539581218
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 21:58
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I have our CBs--Doug, JT and Slizz's AIMs. If you guys ever want to get together and compare notes hit me up.
I made a thread in the forum earlier so everyone can post their contact info as it's not in our profiles. IMs can really speed things up.
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| | | 398 | Tree
ID: 39322620
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 22:09
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although i would have preferred to win, i'm pretty satisfied with RGB Berzerk's 10-0 loss. our offense obviously needs some work, but our FB - owned by partial-gurupie Bobo - had a solid game.
but our defense held its own, and i think as we gain more experience, this team will improve dramatically.
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| | | 399 | Weykool
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ID: 41750315
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 22:31
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Doug and anyother players on the B team.
Do whatever you think is best for your player.
The purpose of the B league is for you to make your player the best he can be.
The coaches will work around whatever you are doing.
With any luck you will get called up to the Show.
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| | | 400 | GoatLocker
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ID: 060151121
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 22:42
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I think I'm going to hold off on boosting both Hunker Down and I Hit Hard for right now, but will look before the next game to see what I think.
Cliff
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| | | 401 | PuNk42AE
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ID: 036635522
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 23:02
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Just got out of work, and now have to turn around and be back there at 7am so don't have anytime to help out, sorry.
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| | | 402 | PuNk42AE
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ID: 036635522
Sat, Apr 26, 2008, 23:22
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My CB played his first game and gained around 450exp and now a Lvl8. My team won 43-3
61plays, 4 Tackles, 2PD, 3 Punt returns, 49Yards
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| | | 403 | Ref
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ID: 539581218
Sun, Apr 27, 2008, 01:09
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We've added quite a few seats and I'll be going through the roster to boost salaries of anyone who is underpaid.
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| | | 404 | GoatLocker
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ID: 060151121
Sun, Apr 27, 2008, 03:22
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Dang, we need this win.
Smash Mouth
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| | | 405 | PuNk42AE
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ID: 036635522
Sun, Apr 27, 2008, 05:52
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I ment to also say that the 61 plays left me with 60 EN with a 23.64 Stamina
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| | | 406 | Promize
ID: 8857295
Sun, Apr 27, 2008, 07:56
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Ok game looks fun...
Told REF I got a player up and running...
One of those non-glamerous lives of being an Offensive Gaurd...
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| | | 407 | Tree
ID: 48319277
Sun, Apr 27, 2008, 09:37
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promize - we're still looking for some human starters for the RGB Berzerk team.
link your players here (and please make your attributes available for all to see) and we'll get you a contract.
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| | | 408 | Toral
ID: 575542418
Sun, Apr 27, 2008, 09:57
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SS Larot Pintir is still available if anyone wants a strong safety. E-mail me at the same time so I see it as soon as possible.
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| | | 409 | Frick
ID: 21041187
Sun, Apr 27, 2008, 10:15
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I just spent 5 minutes watching plays from the RGB team. It is addicting, I don't know why, but it is.
I don't think I'm going to boost up Earl Lackher right away. I probably will later in the season and hopefully can be lvl 6-7 before next season.
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| | | 411 | Ref
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ID: 539581218
Sun, Apr 27, 2008, 11:18
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Good to see you Promize!!! Talk to Tree and talk about where to set your skill points.
Can anyone figure out how to watch the game live? I konw Doug was going to tray and figure it out.
Had a big G-IM meeting last night with several coaches/GMs/scouts etc. Went over playbook and they PMed players who needed to make adjustments based on our game plan and the opponents. Our game is at 3:00 so PLEASE check your GLB PM INBOX. JT cna't be around today, but left instructions with Kyle on adjustments to the game plan/depth chart based on what players are able to make the adjustments asked of them. Also read our team's forum as I know there is one setting that came up yesterday that most need to change but I'm not sure it was mentioned in PMs and not sure I should mention it here.
No need to tell you how big this game is from a financial aspect. On the year, I have added 900 regular seats and 720 Club seats. I upped the prices. But at the last minute it was suggested I raise the prices even higher. I did and it partially worked. The regular seats completely sold out. All 900!!! But the Club seats added yesterday didn't. I have raised the reg seating prices and lowered the Club prices. Today is a home game so I can keep playing around with ticket prices until our next home game until we can sell out. I am not antiicpating adding any more seats at this time as they will take 2 years to pay for themselves (including concessions), but we made so much more than I had budgeted that I put that toward those seats. Based on the numbers Wey made in concessions, our concession sales should cover a big chunk of our salaries going forward. Just hope I've got them priced optimally.
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| | | 412 | Weykool
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ID: 41750315
Sun, Apr 27, 2008, 11:23
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You cant watch the Game "Live".
It only lasts a few minutes.
Once the game is over you can watch the replay as many times as you want.
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| | | 413 | barilko6
ID: 3732117
Sun, Apr 27, 2008, 11:50
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Guys, I sent out PM's a couple of days ago to our GM and Head Coach and never heard back at all from either of them. I also posted here for them to check their PM's. (Post 339)
I also didn't hear back from my co-ordinator at all from Post 379, so I checked the forums and saw I should go HARD for intensity, and since I am out for the rest of the day I am going to boost up to 7 seeing as how I haven't heard back from anyone at all.
No worries though, I don't need my contract re-structured at all this year, I just wanted to boost my stamina and speed. This is going to be a close game today, so I want to send out our best line-up.
If I boosted and it was a wrong move, I apologize, I just didn't hear back from anyone at all.
Lets win this thing!!!
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| | | 414 | wiggs
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ID: 04991311
Sun, Apr 27, 2008, 11:53
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bariiko- as the GM i will support your move. It is totally necessary for you to do it.
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| | | 415 | wiggs
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ID: 04991311
Sun, Apr 27, 2008, 11:53
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i never recieved an PM from you though, or i would have gotten back to you.
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| | | 416 | Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Sun, Apr 27, 2008, 11:57
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Barilko, I would hold off boosting right now. You've boosted once this season and I believe you'll be level 6 or close after this game. If you struggle to run the ball in the game then I say boost, but right now I wouldn't.
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| | | 417 | J
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ID: 049346417
Sun, Apr 27, 2008, 11:59
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barilko, I wonder if you sent that PM to me by accident instead of who you actually wanted to be sending it to.
FYI - I'm about to update the enhanced roster, maybe that'll help with some last minute adjustments...
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| | | 418 | Kyle
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ID: 052753312
Sun, Apr 27, 2008, 12:46
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Alright boys quick pep talk before the game.
We need to go out there and stomp their hearts out as quickly as possible. We need to jump on them fast and then never let go. I've seen you all getting prepared for today's game. I'm proud of how far we've come as an expansion team. Most people have the will to win, few have the will to prepare to win. You all have shown that you want to win and you are willing to do anything to go out there and win. Now I want you guys to GET OUT THERE AND SHOW ME WHAT YOU'VE BEEN PREPARING TO DO YOUR ENTIRE LIVES! LET'S GO!!!!!!
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| | | 419 | Promize
ID: 8857295
Sun, Apr 27, 2008, 12:58
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Player(s) urrrr...
More like Player Lets do this babysteps as I learn this game.
Gaurd
You guys let me know what you all need... I don't mind making the dirty job players... Maybe one popular position in the future.
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| | | 420 | wiggs
Sustainer
ID: 04991311
Sun, Apr 27, 2008, 13:11
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1 final plea, please let reconsider boosting more players- I am pretty sure if we dont we will lose. This is a game with all AI and if they are ranked better they will beat us.
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| | | 421 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Apr 27, 2008, 13:28
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Wiggs,
There are players who DO need to boost for us to be competitive today. Those players were emailed by Kyle/JT. They might not be here for game time so I have a list of instructions on what to do as far as depth chart based on who was able to improve their players. Several players have already done as requested and we signed a couple more players last night to fill a couple weaknesses. I think JT and Kyle are doing a tremendous job. Also GL did a great job with the advance scouting and that really helped JT game plan and adjust fatigue % and depth charts.
There is SO MUCH that goes into this. The more I have seen from the last day and the games that have already happened, I am now more of the opinion of Wiggs that boosting is not nec. a bad thing. JT and Kyle also saw where we were coming from as we studied our deficiencies. Still some have been told that boosting isn't nec. just yet and some have been told it's very necessary. Some have been given recommendations but it's up to them. In the end, we're going to put our best players on the field in accordance with our game plan and matchups.
My guy wasn't made optimally and is just now starting to get where he needs to be. In fact, I am still shy I think. Hit lvl 5 this morning and could hit lvl 6 after the game with XPs but have still considered boosting one more before the game. I have been told I don't need to, so likely won't. But I am going to be mad at myself if we lose this game when I and others could have boosted and didn't and that is the difference for not only this game but perhaps the playoffs. I am just learning so I don't know. Learning a LOT every day though.
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| | | 422 | Tree
ID: 48319277
Sun, Apr 27, 2008, 13:57
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Toral and Promize - offers have been sent, along with some contact info if you need help developing your players.
everyone else playing - remember to log in pretty much every day. otherwise, the GLB system declares you inactive.
Ref - i'm going to make one comment regarding your statement above, then let it go:
There are players who DO need to boost for us to be competitive today. Those players were emailed by Kyle/JT. They might not be here for game time so I have a list of instructions on what to do as far as depth chart based on who was able to improve their players.
you guys who are running this team need to remember that there are human players behind the football players. some people might want tolearn and study a bit without being told what to do in regards to SPENDING THEIR OWN PERSONAL MONEY BEFORE THE FIRST GAME IS EVEN PLAYED (because, after all, flex points cost real $$$).
and then, seeing that playing time might get threatened if we don't do everything the coaches tell us to do, is pretty unsettling.
I'm not telling you guys how to run your team, but i am offering a suggestion here. Patience is a virtue, and there seems to be a win win win win win at all costs sort of mentality going on, when really, aren't we in this to have some fun. we haven't even played the first game yet!
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| | | 423 | Ref
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ID: 539581218
Sun, Apr 27, 2008, 14:02
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Tree, we are all learning here.
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| | | 424 | Toral
ID: 575542418
Sun, Apr 27, 2008, 14:14
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Well, Larot has finally signed a contract. It's been very hard for him, this waiting and rejection, but he was finally able to sign. Ut was frustrating because apparently his Wonderlics were way too high for people like wiggs, Kyle and ref to be interested.
Larot is looking forward to following his coach's training advice.
Toral
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| | | 425 | Ref
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ID: 539581218
Sun, Apr 27, 2008, 14:17
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FTR, I don't sign initial contracts.
I just work on finances and do restructuring of existing contracts. JTSerb is our head coach and Kyle, as owner, also has signed some guys. You guys who have received renegotiated contracts is from me as I am the only one who does that. The other guys know a lot more than me on players and where they should have their skills set at or what position needs are for our team.
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| | | 426 | Kyle
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ID: 052753312
Sun, Apr 27, 2008, 14:17
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Tree, I wouldn't say we absolutely need to boost those positions to be competitive but it would be a major boon to the team if they did. I understand that boosting cost $$.
As ref said we are learning and we do need to see what happens in the first game. No one's playing time is being sacrificed right now. No one's going to be playing every play right now so everyone is going to be seeing plenty of time. But I do agree that we need to get the best out of the players that we have on the field, so if we see something you could work on we'll make the suggestion.
These are all suggestions. We'll let you run your player how you want and we'll come up with a game plan that fits what we have on the roster. If you see something that we are doing wrong we'll gladly take your suggestions too. And if you don't like what we're doing just send Ronnie Boozer to come talk to us. We'll understand after he's done with us.
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| | | 427 | Kyle
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ID: 052753312
Sun, Apr 27, 2008, 14:21
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Toral it's not that we didn't like Larot, I think he'll be a star. We just didn't hear from you for 4 or 5 days and when we saw games were starting on Saturday we made the decision that you weren't signing. We knew we had the B squad you could sign on to and get some playing time there. We're hoping next year Larot will want to sign with us, and if not we hope he'll stay with the RGB so we don't have to compete against him. We wish you the best, and I have actually heard from The Exorcist that he is glad to see such a promising young SS on the team.
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| | | 428 | Tree
ID: 48319277
Sun, Apr 27, 2008, 14:58
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Ref - i realize we are all learning here. that's why i said what i did. not to be accusatory, not to get people angry, but just to express that we haven't played game one yet, so let's be a little patient, that's all.
Toral - i know that we haven't gotten along often in fantasy sports (ooh boy, THAT's an understatement)...but this is a different kind of game, and i think things will be just fine. i hope. lol
Kyle - i appreciate your post. trust me, i am dedicated to my player. but, i want to see what happens. i kind of look at it from the perspective that we gain XP faster, the lower levels we're at. so if we can naturally get to lvl 4, 5, 6 and still not be out of the running for the playoff spot, then come the latter part of the season when we get that super boost, we might run the table in the playoffs.
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| | | 429 | wiggs
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ID: 04991311
Sun, Apr 27, 2008, 15:02
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Tree
There are players who DO need to boost for us to be competitive today. Those players were emailed by Kyle/JT. They might not be here for game time so I have a list of instructions on what to do as far as depth chart based on who was able to improve their players.
you guys who are running this team need to remember that there are human players behind the football players. some people might want tolearn and study a bit without being told what to do in regards to SPENDING THEIR OWN PERSONAL MONEY BEFORE THE FIRST GAME IS EVEN PLAYED (because, after all, flex points cost real $$$).
The thing you need to remember is we have alot of players who want to boost but are being told not to by the coaching staff/owner/other players whoever. I am just suggesting of you want to boost you shouldnt be told not to. If you choose not to thats up to you.
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| | | 430 | barilko6
ID: 3732117
Sun, Apr 27, 2008, 15:41
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As for my boosting, I had alreadyt boosted before Kyle left his message on here.
Wiggs, my apologies, I never PM'ed you at all, I sent a PM to Kyle, JTSerb, and J by mistake! haha
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| | | 431 | Ref
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ID: 539581218
Sun, Apr 27, 2008, 15:49
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We lost 13-7. The game went early. Twarpy boosted too but I think it was too late now as he said he missed two FGs.
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| | | 432 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Sun, Apr 27, 2008, 15:51
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Hmmm, it simmed early!!!! I wonder if Twarpy's boost was even accounted for?
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| | | 433 | Ref
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ID: 539581218
Sun, Apr 27, 2008, 15:58
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I bet it wasn't because after he told be he boosted I went in and looked at matchup and we went from 24 to 30. he missed two chippies including a 17 yarder and we got stuffed on 2nd and goal from the 1.
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| | | 434 | barilko6
ID: 3732117
Sun, Apr 27, 2008, 16:04
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Hmm...Baloou Hen had a lot of snaps on the defensive side of the ball.
Punting by both punters was abyssmal. Is there any way to be more aggressive and just go for it when we are in the opponent's side of the 50?
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| | | 435 | PuNk42AE
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ID: 036635522
Sun, Apr 27, 2008, 16:06
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Pretty even game, really the only thing was the 0-2FG. Other than that it looked fair, and we STUFFED the run!
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| | | 436 | Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Sun, Apr 27, 2008, 16:08
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The game is over. We lost 13-7, but looks like we played well. I'll give a game recap later.
A note: If you leveled up during the game DO NOT use your skill points right now. Wait for word from you coaches on how to spend them. I want to see what we need to work on before we decide what we need to spend points on.
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| | | 437 | J
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ID: 049346417
Sun, Apr 27, 2008, 16:10
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ooops, i used mine already...I think I used my points smartly.
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| | | 438 | PuNk42AE
Donor
ID: 036635522
Sun, Apr 27, 2008, 16:11
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I'm guessing the Baloou Hen thing is from Special Teams.
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| | | 439 | leggestand
ID: 41312318
Sun, Apr 27, 2008, 16:13
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I leveled up during the game, and although I'll wait for some direction on how to spend them, I can guarantee I'll need to spend on them on Tackling with a side of Stamina. I had 3 missed tackles, which gives me the dubious honor of being on the league leader list.
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| | | 440 | Tree
ID: 48319277
Sun, Apr 27, 2008, 16:17
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the punting seems to be an issue. in all 3 games i've played, no punter on any of the six teams averaged more than 27.3 yards.
i realize it's probably tied into their levels and attributes, but there should be some level of reasonable skills, because a punter who is averaging 25 yards a kick won't even make his high school JV team.
i'd be curious as to exactly what our tactics and strategy were. my guy was in for 32 plays, and had precisely one ball thrown to him, and it wasn't until the 4th quarter. seems odd for the WR3.
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| | | 441 | dpr
ID: 1733917
Sun, Apr 27, 2008, 16:19
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Are coaches really expected to know how each palyer works better then the owner?
My guess on the baloo hen thing is he had to be there because he got special teams tackles or ones after interceptions. The game jsut doesnt alter his plays and just shows how many he was in the game.
Btw it doesnt look like stamina was much of an issue as most starters got the majority of the snaps. I know that I got like 52/58 on offense
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| | | 442 | leggestand
ID: 41312318
Sun, Apr 27, 2008, 16:24
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I was in every play on defense (68) and dropped to 72 stamina. I won't be able to train any harder than relaxed, but I will be able to make it back to 100.
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| | | 443 | Seattle Zen
ID: 29241823
Sun, Apr 27, 2008, 16:24
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Are we not using our league forum? I made a post three hours ago and it is still the last post.
Both of my players, Haya Griva and T. L'Overture leveled up. How should I use my 5 skill points? I'm waiting for coach guidance.
Good game. I'm glad to see that our bench was got lots of playing time and few players played more than 60 plays. Every individual's play over 50 is one less for a bench player. We are building a juggernaut here, the USC of GLB!
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| | | 444 | Kyle
Donor
ID: 052753312
Sun, Apr 27, 2008, 16:37
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Ok folks if you have G-mail and are here sign in and send me a message. I'll set up chats for both Defense and Offense that you can join.
If you don't have g-mail e-mail me and i can invite you.
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| | | 445 | Twarpy
Leader
ID: 386242821
Sun, Apr 27, 2008, 16:43
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Think we need to look at our special teams on kickoffs, just reviewing my kickoffs and we allowed returns of 37 yards and 31.5 yards, I noticed we had our LB's and HB's in our special teams, which Im sure drains them as well as them usually being so slow to get into the play. We might as well have someone punting the ball and them fair catching it if this keeps up.
I know I missed a chipshot, and a longer FG so I'm not perfect, hopefully leveling up will help some more there.
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| | | 446 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Sun, Apr 27, 2008, 16:57
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I blame the head coach for this loss!!!! Why didn't we challenge this play? He clearly crossed the plain!!!!
shoulda been a TD!
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| | | 447 | RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Sun, Apr 27, 2008, 17:14
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2 good carries, 3 not-so-good carries...and 1 1/2 yards from paydirt...dang.
Is there a way I can see when I was in as FB as well? I'd like to see if I blocked anyone.
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| | | 448 | youngroman
ID: 3751268
Sun, Apr 27, 2008, 17:16
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Michael Dawson, WR, press conference.
on the game: "this is a tough loss. we were there all game but when it counted on 3rd and 1 we did not convert. that was the key play in my opinion."
on his performance (1 catch, 9 yds): "what can I say. I was in there for 1 offense play, got the ball and made the most of it. thats it. the coaches decide which plays are called and if I'm in, I execute."
on the next opponent (New Orleans): "like our team, they have lots of good players. we need to play hard again and try to score more. I just heard they lost their first game too, so I bet they also don't want to start the season 0-2."
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| | | 449 | Doug
ID: 321302615
Sun, Apr 27, 2008, 18:24
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I'm still confused as to why we're using both this message board AND the in-game one... but I'm going to post my thoughts on today's game over there instead.
Link to thread on game site
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| | | 450 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Sun, Apr 27, 2008, 18:48
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I just think its easier to check this board than the other one.
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| | | 451 | JTSERB
Donor
ID: 481020120
Sun, Apr 27, 2008, 20:10
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I making a new thread this one is too long... please start posting in the new thread. thanks
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| | | 452 | Livia
ID: 10716219
Tue, Aug 02, 2011, 20:16
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There's ntohnig like the relief of finding what you're looking for.
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