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| Posted by: Motley Crue
- [41741212] Tue, Aug 29, 09:18
If anyone is playing the SW Brazilian game, I'd like to get some kind of discussion group going on it. I am an American living in Massachusetts and have never heard of any of these players but I am playing and am currently in the Top 15%. If you have played SW sports before, you will do well. I need to get a little insight about the players and depth of the teams (i.e., injuries, starters, who is going to the Olympics, etc.). I am on these boards virtually daily, so feel free to respond, or e-mail me. Thanks.
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| | | 1 | Edgar
ID: 30512152
Tue, Aug 29, 09:42
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Motley would love to help you out but playing the premiership game is already timeconsuming enough (together with my other addictions). So can't help you out.
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| | | 2 | VIDevilRays
ID: 11713189
Tue, Aug 29, 10:01
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I signed up for the game but do not have a clue about the players. Zero knowledge. Just going by the market watch and making my decisions accordingly.
Haven't scored a point yet but I'm 709 in the world, so I gather participation is limited.
If you really like soccer you should check out the English Premier League. There are still openings in gurupie divisions (the one I'm in), and there is much more information available for research. And due to injuries and things like international competitions I would think the opportunity to gain ground quickly is there.
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| | | 3 | Motley Crue
ID: 41741212
Tue, Aug 29, 15:37
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I like soccer, but I would be too far behind in the Premiership game if I started now. I want to win this Brazilian game--the prize supposedly is a trip to Tokyo. Anyway, if anyone has any knowledge to share about Brazilian clubs, I'd love to hear it. One thing I am concerned about is why Lucio didn't play for his club this weekend. I suspect he was off with the Olympic squad, but I'm not sure.
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| | | 4 | Bubba
ID: 241246
Tue, Aug 29, 15:38
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As a fellow MA resident I'd love to help, but I know even less about Brazilian football than the Premiership. Besides, the time demands of SW baseball and Premier League are already quite high. I suppose the only advice I can offer is to check out as many websites as you can to learn about the Brazilian league. Good luck!
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| | | 5 | Tom
ID: 45771318
Sat, Sep 02, 10:11
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Has anyone else noticed that with so few managers the market is very volatile??? I believe that during Basketball a bunch of gurupies drafted one player to see if they could affect the $$$ with no luck. It seems in the brazilian game there are only about 700 managers and 20 or 30 trades will make some serious $$$ or lose serious $$$. Maybe something to keep in the back of our mind for later on in the season....but I doubt that money is going to be a problem as the season wears on.
Tom
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| | | 6 | Tom
ID: 3185137
Thu, Sep 14, 15:09
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Has anyone found a good web site (other than SW) that list the brazilian schedule???
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| | | 8 | Prettyfly
ID: 17431315
Thu, Sep 14, 16:00
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BTW. Had anyone else noticed that points for yesterdays game Ponte Preta - Sao Paulo are missed... :( I have six players from those teams.
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| | | 9 | Tom
ID: 3185137
Fri, Sep 15, 07:51
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Thanks Prettyfly just what I was looking for!!!
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| | | 10 | Motley Crue
ID: 41741212
Fri, Sep 22, 10:15
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I noticed that, too, Prettyfly. I lost out on 4 players' points from that SP-PonteP game, and I am seething. I am currently #16 in the game, and I know if I got those points I would move up. I have written SmallWorld letters and posted all over their lamea$$ boards for them to do something about it. They completely ignored me. I am pissed off at this ridiculous company--not my fault only 2500 people made teams, they need to hold up their end of the bargain and maintain that sight alot better. They didn't even announce the miscue, which leads me to believe that their administrator presence at the sight is minimal. Hopefully they will get their collective heads out from the sand and DO SOMETHING about this.
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| | | 11 | VIDevilRays
ID: 11713189
Fri, Sep 22, 10:37
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Has anyone also noticed that the Official Game Rules say the freeze is every Wednesday and Saturday but the freeze date on your roster page is every Saturday? Has anyone ever tried to make a trade for a Wednesday game to see if you get the points?
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| | | 12 | Motley Crue
ID: 41741212
Fri, Sep 22, 10:56
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I am pretty sure that the game has been programmed as the rules specify--to freeze on Wednesday and Saturday. I think whoever does the daily maintenance at the sight is a moron, or just has no idea what they are doing. One way to be sure is make a trade between Saturday and Wednesday morning, and then click the "frozen roster" link. It will tell you when the roster was frozen. As I said, though, my experience has been that it is on Wednesdays, and Saturdays.
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| | | 13 | VIDevilRays
ID: 11713189
Fri, Sep 22, 11:24
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Those SOBs!! I just checked Motley. I got points for trades made for Wednesday. This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen!!
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| | | 14 | Motley Crue
ID: 41741212
Fri, Sep 22, 11:43
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You mean you were able to make trades after the freeze and still get points for certain games, VI? I'm not sure of what you mean in that post above...
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| | | 15 | VIDevilRays
ID: 11713189
Fri, Sep 22, 12:06
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No no. I made trades Tuesday night for Wednesday's games, contrary to the report that the freeze was Saturday-Saturday.
According to sw, I should not have received points for Tues trades since the freeze was Sat-Sat. But I received points for Wed games from trades made Tues night.
Going from sw's reported freeze period, I never tried to make trades for Wed games before since sw said the freeze was Sat-Sat. I traded on Sat and never tried mid-week trades. Understand what I am saying?
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| | | 16 | Prettyfly
ID: 17431315
Fri, Sep 22, 13:40
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Wednesday-saturday freeze? I didn't know about that. But anyway, my strategy was always to pick up active players who will have two games in next week. 4 trades is not enough to eliminate all players having one or zero scheduled game. IMHO - if you don't know players (and I don't) then there is no big difference when you waste your trades.
BTW, this game is ridiculous.
1) Their SWP update is unpredictable. You will never know which game they will miss next.
2) There is no money trouble, because players initial prices were very-very low. After first week I bought every player I wanted to and I had $10 mill. cash left (and all players were most productive ones). Why are they making this repricing at all?!
3) My best team (started one week late) was moving up very quickly and is now somewhere WWR 40. Can you imagine this in another fantasy game.
Fly
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| | | 17 | VIDevilRays
ID: 11713189
Fri, Sep 22, 14:05
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I hear ya fly. Look at your "frozen roster". It says roster frozen for 9/20. So you can make trades on Tues for Wed-Fri games. What bugs me is that sign on your roster that says the freeze is Sat when in fact there is a Wed freeze also.
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| | | 18 | Prettyfly
ID: 17431315
Sat, Sep 23, 03:48
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Yes, I noticed that now, but I still will make my trades once a week. It doesn't make sense waste much time to this game and to all those bugs. But if I would end 1 SWP short to finish TOP 10 then I will turn VERY agressive about this 13/9 missing game.
Thanks anyway. :)
Fly
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| | | 19 | Motley Crue
ID: 58812317
Sat, Sep 23, 17:01
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I got what you are saying, now VI. I just always went by the posted rules, and not by their moronic periodic updates on my manager statement. I have been using the Wednesday freeze all along--that's how I got so high I think, also after missing the first week of the season. Pretty good stuff, huh? Anybody wanna free TV--check out brazilian soccer...
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| | | 20 | VIDevilRays
ID: 508151619
Sat, Sep 23, 19:48
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Someone must be reading these boards. Guess what date is now on the manager statement? Wed!!
Sure wish I knew about that tv:) I started Aug. 27 and, without Wed trading now up to wwr 315 (and first in my lame sw division).
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| | | 21 | Motley Crue
ID: 588102322
Sat, Sep 23, 22:10
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See, gang. Prime example of why we should all always READ THE RULES when starting a new fantasy game...
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| | | 22 | Prettyfly
ID: 17431315
Mon, Sep 25, 11:05
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Attention.
Points for game Ponte Preta - Sao Paulo (played Sep 13th) were updated.
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| | | 23 | Motley Crue
ID: 41741212
Mon, Sep 25, 13:45
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Prettyfly--
Do you know why Claudiomiro has not been playing? I have dropped like $2M on this guy because I don't have a trade to sell him right now, and I want to know why I am getting screwed at least.
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| | | 24 | Prettyfly
ID: 17431315
Mon, Sep 25, 14:47
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Well... if you could read portuguese you can research Santos homepage.
I don't understand a word, but I'm afraid that Claudiomiro got injured 18/09 and will be out 15-20 days.
Fly
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| | | 25 | Motley Crue
ID: 41741212
Mon, Sep 25, 14:59
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You know this, but you can't read Portuguese? How is that? Are you just guessing based on something you saw on the website? Thanks for responding.
I was excited to get those extra points, even though they were almost negligible in the large scheme.
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| | | 26 | Prettyfly
ID: 17431315
Mon, Sep 25, 15:47
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Sorry I'm not sure about that, just guessing. I'm talking english a little and german a little and some other languages too. There are similar words and structures in portuguese and I'm just trying to put it all together.
Fly
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| | | 27 | Motley Crue
ID: 41741212
Tue, Sep 26, 08:03
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Pretty funny--I speak English (obviously), took 7 years of German (less than proficient at this point, though), and am learning Portuguese (engaged to a Brazilian). You are right: it is close enough in some aspects to guess the meaning. But it irritates me when I go to Portuguese websites and I can't figure out the little words on the links, so I don't know WHERE to click. Thanks again for pointing out to me the Santos homepage. How'd you get into playing Brazilian Fantasy Football, incidentally, Prettyfly?
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| | | 28 | Prettyfly
ID: 17431315
Tue, Sep 26, 09:19
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Yeah, you are right. First I created one team for fun and picked randomly players. After first week I found brazil league schedule and took a look who are actually playing and created another team. This second team is doing much better :)
I do not have any knowledge about the players, except Romario, Denilson and maybe couple others who had played in world cup. But I'm still hanging somethere in top 30.
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| | | 29 | Motley Crue
ID: 41741212
Wed, Sep 27, 08:06
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After this last weekend I am up to #13, pretty good considering we started a week late. There are about 10 teams in fromt of me with Portuguese names, and I have looked at their division. It is just one division with all of them, they've probably been playing since the beginning, and they are obviously all Brazilians. Big advantage for them. Pretty sure I won't win, but I actually would prefer a TV (the 2-11 prize) to a trip to Japan to watch the Intercontinental Cup (sounds like something out of the WWF).
I also finally dumped Claudiomiro with the trades we got yesterday. That guy killed me in $$ and points, but oh well, hopefully I've learned my lesson.
Any word on Sao Paulo striker Franca? He has good numbers but hasn't played in a while--is he an Olympian, or just hurt? Would like to pick him up.
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| | | 30 | Prettyfly
ID: 17431315
Thu, Sep 28, 17:37
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You asked from wrong person. I did not even noticed that he is not playing. I'm afraid that I have Franca in one of my teams :( Usually I'm checking my teams only on saturdays.
Does this Merrimack Monitors belong to you?
My best team called "Hall Of Shame" and is 1000 pts behind.
BTW I'm not sure but did SW missed some 27/9 games again?
What about Botafogo - Vitoria and Santa Cruz - Juventude.
Fly
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| | | 31 | VIDevilRays
ID: 508151619
Fri, Sep 29, 06:33
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Why does Marquinhos continue to increase in price when he does not play on Sat?
Secondly, its ok if you don't want to but, you all want to form a division? As I said above, a started real late, but I'm now at wwr 199.
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| | | 32 | Tom
ID: 31812208
Fri, Sep 29, 07:07
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Rotoguru division
Password - gurupies
I started this league but am the only one in it. If anyone wants to join feel free.
Tom
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| | | 33 | VIDevilRays
ID: 11713189
Fri, Sep 29, 12:59
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Thanks Tom, think I will (later tonight-when I get home).
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| | | 34 | Prettyfly
ID: 17431315
Sat, Sep 30, 05:27
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SW Brazil soccer feels like a dead place. No SWP updates and it still shows next freeze at wed 27 september.
It is creepy to log in but I'm disappointed not meeting zombies, skulls and bones there.
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| | | 35 | Tom
ID: 45771318
Sun, Oct 01, 10:36
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VIDevilRays - glad to see you made it in! At least now I have to work to win the division!!!!
;)
Tom
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| | | 36 | Motley Crue
ID: 41741212
Mon, Oct 02, 10:01
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Haha, I know what you mean about the division.
I almost don't even pay atttention to whether or not they score correctly anymore. I log in, make my picks and logout. Check points daily, but they are almost never updated. Oh well. I will join your guys' division.
Yeah, I am Merrimack Monitors on this game.
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| | | 37 | VIDevilRays
ID: 11713189
Mon, Oct 02, 13:26
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Good to have you Motley. Hey Prettyfly-need a special invitation?:)
Lookout Tom-now up to 153!!:)
Were there games this weekend that were not played, or is smallworld just late again in updating?
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| | | 38 | Prettyfly
ID: 17431315
Mon, Oct 02, 18:53
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Well. I'm in too.
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| | | 39 | Motley Crue
ID: 41741212
Tue, Oct 03, 07:06
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I think SW is behind again--I can't believe all the players who haven't been updated on points. I am not certain that these games were played. I will check and report back, but I suspect this is SW's slack maintenance once again.
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| | | 40 | Tom
ID: 31812208
Tue, Oct 03, 12:47
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Wow fell from 1st to 3rd in 24hours!!! Tough division.
;)
Tom
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| | | 41 | Motley Crue
ID: 41741212
Tue, Oct 03, 13:54
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Sorry, Tom. Wanna play with the big boys, you get burned once in a while.
Damn, I feel like a lemming. I just got my trades 3 hours ago and I have already used 3 of them.
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| | | 42 | Tom
ID: 31812208
Tue, Oct 03, 14:02
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Motley - I have not been stockpiling trades for the fun of it! Look out. I still have about 8.
Tom
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| | | 43 | Motley Crue
ID: 41741212
Wed, Oct 04, 08:44
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8 trades, huh? I'll buy `em from you for 10 bucks each.
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| | | 44 | Tom
ID: 31812208
Wed, Oct 04, 09:13
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If SW does not start paying a little more attention to this game I just might take you up on that offer.
Did we ever decide if there was a Wed. roster freeze in these games?
Tom
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| | | 45 | Motley Crue
ID: 41741212
Wed, Oct 04, 09:45
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There is, but I think it is going to be in about 15 minutes, so you better get a move on if you need to make some moves.
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| | | 46 | Tom
ID: 31812208
Wed, Oct 04, 10:14
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Already made the moves but in my old age could not remember what had been determined!
Thanks
Tom
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| | | 47 | VIDevilRays
ID: 11713189
Wed, Oct 04, 11:02
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I believe the freeze is 7 a.m. east coast time (12 noon brazil-five hours difference). If you look at your frozen roster the trading activity is posted brazil time.
Tom-if you are on the east coast I think you are late. There is a wed. roster freeze btw.
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| | | 48 | VIDevilRays
ID: 11713189
Wed, Oct 04, 11:10
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Actually, its at your Transfer History page.
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| | | 49 | Tom
ID: 31812208
Wed, Oct 04, 12:09
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I made the trades yesterday. I do not try to cut it close. Got caught in football one time.
Never again!!
Tom
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| | | 50 | Tom
ID: 31812208
Wed, Oct 04, 12:54
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One more point I thought Rio de Janeiro was only two hours ahead of EST....not 5.
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| | | 51 | VIDevilRays
ID: 11713189
Wed, Oct 04, 13:04
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Tom-you may be right. But if you look at your transfer history page the trades are registering five hours later than the time my trades are made. Based upon that I have always made my trades before 7 a.m.,est, and never had a problems.
(I am in the Caribbean but same time as east coast).
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| | | 52 | Prettyfly
ID: 17431315
Wed, Oct 04, 14:24
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There is lot of new players IPO'ed. Has somebody found full list of them?
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| | | 53 | Motley Crue
ID: 41741212
Thu, Oct 05, 09:16
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I think 12 Brazilian Time is 11 EST (Eastern Standard Time--New York, Boston). I have made trades at 10 AM EST before and been ok.
I am back up to 14th place--no thanks to my big defensive pickups yesterday Arce (who didn't play) and Denis (whose team didn't play, when I thought they would). Only 9 players scored and I still wound up with around 1600 points. Can you imagine what the Rotoguru Studs would be doing right now if they were playing this game?
Guys, we only have about a month left--we need to do better and try to catch those bums up the front. I want my SW TV!
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| | | 54 | VIDevilRays
ID: 11713189
Thu, Oct 05, 09:33
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When did this season start? I started 8/27 and I am now at 106 wwr!!! Sure wish I started at the beginning. Made the top 25 players for 10/4 last night.
I understand what you are saying about the time Motley-but please look at your transfer history page and tell me what's up with those times.
Anyone know why Erlon did not play yesterday? Games that have not been played-will they be played and, more importantly, will we have notice?
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| | | 55 | Tom
ID: 31812208
Thu, Oct 05, 09:45
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I had the same thing happen. Denis did not play apparently and jackson is showing no points(still 1613 for the day). I need to check and see if the Cruzeiro-Fluminense game was played.
Back up to WWR of 96!! wish I had started on time too!!
Can anyone look at the frozen rosters of other teams?
Tom
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| | | 56 | VIDevilRays
ID: 11713189
Thu, Oct 05, 10:01
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No idea Tom. I can't even see other rosters. Trying to click on them gives a "nothing there" message (or something like that!)
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| | | 57 | Motley Crue
ID: 41741212
Fri, Oct 06, 11:05
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Guys, you won't beleieve this but I will tell you anyway. I found out from my brother-in-law, who is Brazilian, that national elections were Sunday. So any games scheduled for Sunday didn't get played last week. I asked him why the hell they planned games for the same day as elections, and he said they didn't know that elections were going to be that day until after the fixtures had been scheduled.
I know this is unbelievable, but let me tell you all something about Brazil: it is not a priority there to have alot of organization. And this trend manifests in multiple facets of their society. One example is this situation where games were postponed because elections were arbitrarily scheduled for the same day. In the US people would have flipped out, there would have been protests, riots, and definitely a lot of pissed off voters if elections were not scheduled long in advance. But apparently, nobody worries about these things in Brazil. I have been assured that the missed games will more than likely be played at the end of the Tournament, after all the other scheduled games.
Can you imagine if game 4 of the American League Division Series was postponed because the Election Commission decided to schedule elections this week? God almighty. People would go crazy.
I think this evidence will definitely be added to Small World's pile of reasons why NOT to have this game again next year. I mean, this is driving our little division crazy. I can't imagine that there are any more than 1000 people actually competing on a daily basis. No one will play again next year, except maybe the Brazilians who are playing this year. And they probably just shrug it off.
"Gee, I wonder why so-and-so didn't play yesterday?"
"Oh you didn't know? The game was postponed by the elections."
"Oh, silly me. No problem, I'll get `em next time!"
Can you imagine that?
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| | | 58 | Motley Crue
ID: 41741212
Tue, Oct 10, 07:41
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I had 4 guys I expected to play not go on Saturday. I saw Romario and Rogerio Ceni (GK) played for the national team against Venezuela. Does anybody know about Arce and Marquinhos? God I hate this! I can see my TV disappearing before my eyes!
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| | | 59 | VIDevilRays
ID: 11713189
Tue, Oct 10, 09:16
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Well that answers one of mine (Ceni). Also had Marquinho, Daniel and someone else not play. This is driving me crazy!!!
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| | | 60 | Motley Crue
ID: 41741212
Thu, Oct 12, 07:42
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Alright, I kicked butt last night. Back in business at #14. That TV is as good as MINE!
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| | | 61 | Tom
ID: 31812208
Thu, Oct 12, 07:48
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1190 out of 8 players. How did everybody else do?
Tom
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| | | 62 | Motley Crue
ID: 41741212
Mon, Oct 16, 09:44
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I moved up to WWR 8 this weekend. I am only 500 points out of third place. It's as good as mine.
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| | | 63 | VIDevilRays
ID: 11713189
Mon, Oct 16, 10:27
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Made it (finally) to wwr 90. Yeehaw!!!!
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| | | 64 | Motley Crue
ID: 41741212
Wed, Oct 18, 08:09
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After last night I am up to #5!
Anyone who wants to make alot of points, trade all your Sao Paulo and Internacional players this morning before the freeze and pick up guys on Gremio or Gama. These 2 G-Teams play the next 4 weeks consecutive.
After this round (24), Vasco and Atletico Mineiro play EVERY round until the end, so don't forget to buy players from those teams for Saturday!
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| | | 65 | Motley Crue
ID: 41741212
Thu, Oct 19, 15:21
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{Dancing my jig}
#3, #3, #3, yeah, yeah.
I'm gonna get a free TV, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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| | | 66 | Dai
ID: 5395184
Thu, Oct 26, 06:29
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How long is left in the season ???? How many teams entered this competition ???? I am currently #10 in the premiership game but this brazilian one seems like there is hardly any participation, good luck MC on getting that TV, I am trying to do the same in the premier league !!
Dai
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| | | 67 | VIDevilRays
ID: 11713189
Thu, Oct 26, 08:37
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Dai-I think another month about is left. Everyone in this thread is in the same division and we are all in the top 100, led by the infamous Motley Crue. Way to go MC!!!!
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| | | 68 | Dai
ID: 5395184
Fri, Oct 27, 09:51
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That is crazy !!! Do you know the guy who is leading ?? Good luck to you all anyway, I hope you can all get a TV out of this game ;)
Dai
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| | | 69 | Motley Crue
Donor
ID: 4633167
Thu, Apr 26, 11:48
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Hey gang, here are the final standings for the Brazilian game, Top 50. I see some Gurupie names up there, and considering the challenge of learning the foreign players, I think congratulations are in order. As they say in Portuguese, "Parabens!"
Final Standings Brazilian Soccer
//MC
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| | | 70 | Motley Crue
Leader
ID: 439372011
Tue, Jan 11, 2005, 16:10
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Hey, any of you guys (VI, prettyfly, Tom) still around? Wasn't this a blast, frantically trying to figure this game out while having a huge advantage over the newbies we were competing with? I've often told people that anyone who is good at one TSN market-based game could do well with any of them in any language (heck even binary code) as long as you know how to analyze what is happening in the box score.
On the other hand, I'm sure it was games like this that crippled Small World and sent them off into oblivion. If they would have just stuck with Hoops, Baseball, and Football, they might have made it. What a shame. I miss the free market-based games (and I'm not talking TSN Basic).
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| | | 71 | augfan77
ID: 6557272
Tue, Jun 27, 2006, 03:57
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Check out this soccer forum. http://www.hedir.com/sports-soccer/
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