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Subject: RIBC - Regular Season Discussion #4 Posted by: Guru - [330592710] Thu, Jul 15, 2004, 11:30 Might as well use the ASB as a breakpoint for the next discussion thread. I finally have all of my horses healthy. Now we'll have to see whether they can pull this wreckage of a carriage out of the muck. | ||||||
| 60 | blue hen ID: 372102211 Tue, Aug 10, 2004, 12:49 | Haha - maybe. But not really because Walker leaving Coors scares me and I hate having Phillies because it's double bad when they suck. Of course, it's better than being on the DL. | |||||
| 61 | J Leader ID: 049346417 Tue, Aug 10, 2004, 16:06 | dumbass, you wouldn't have known that he was leaving coors last week is what he's getting at. | |||||
| 62 | blue hen ID: 372102211 Tue, Aug 10, 2004, 16:48 | Fine. Then his injury history scares me. I've been assuming he would leave Coors since about 2002. | |||||
| 63 | smartone @work ID: 10558714 Thu, Aug 12, 2004, 11:09 |
I will be on vacation between Aug. 15-22 and I doubt if I'll manage to get Internet connection during next week. Therefore, if anyone has been thinking about offering me a trade - please do so now. Most of my team is tradeable (except Mr. Bonds and most likely Ortiz and Renteria) while I am looking for RBI/SLG/OBP/WHIP/ERA contributors. I can offer speed/runs (Crawford, J-Jones) as well as Saves (well, I don't have Gagne, but my closers get Saves here and there) | |||||
| 64 | blue hen ID: 372102211 Thu, Aug 12, 2004, 15:06 |
I know I'm 14th of 16. I know I'm 1-1-1-2 in R, RBI, ERA, and WHIP. But I need to make myself feel better, so I'll talk about my 6 other teams, which are obviously of no importance to you. This Is SportsCenter (AL Only ESPN) 1st of 8 EQA All-Stars (ESPN) 1st of 10 Voros McCracken (ESPN) 5th of 10 Blue Hen's Cropdusters (NL Only ESPN - Chatroom Gurupies) 2nd of 8 Quagmire is my hero (Yahoo H2H with holds and fewest batter k's) 2nd of 12 Saves R Us (Yahoo) 4th of 20 See? I'm not really that bad... | |||||
| 65 | J Leader ID: 49346417 Thu, Aug 12, 2004, 18:36 |
Blue Hen's Cropdusters (NL Only ESPN - Chatroom Gurupies) 2nd of 8 who's beating you? | |||||
| 66 | blue hen ID: 372102211 Thu, Aug 12, 2004, 19:06 | Ok, I guess I really do suck at fantasy sports... | |||||
| 67 | Guru ID: 330592710 Thu, Aug 12, 2004, 21:34 |
I just tallied up my pitching results for the season. Here are the aggregate results for my top 8 pitching draft picks: IP: 498 W: 29 S: 34 K: 382 (.77/IP) ERA: 4.61 WHIP: 1.35 Of that group, Halladay is on the DL and probably won't have more than a few starts left, if any. Contreras has been OK of late. Guardado and Mantei are out for the year. Marte got aced out of the closer role by Takatsu. Valverde is still on the DL. Soriano is out for the year. Wakefield has been OK - and is still healthy, at least. Here is the rest of my staff's totals (last 4 draftees plus F/A pickups): IP: 379 W: 29 S: 4 K: 287 (.77/IP) ERA: 3.96 WHIP: 1.35 Pavano and Mota have been my best two. These results also include Ponson, who was horrible while I held him. Note to self: Next year, just draft hitters. | |||||
| 68 | beastiemiked Sustainer ID: 03531815 Fri, Aug 13, 2004, 09:17 | I've got a question. What happens if there is a tie in some of the average categories? It seems Yahoo only rounds to the hundredth and there a couple categories(mainly WHIP) which are tightly grouped together. Are we going to go by what Yahoo says or are we going to break the ties somehow? This is my only complaint with Yahoo, other than that they have a great free baseball game. | |||||
| 69 | smartone @work ID: 10558714 Fri, Aug 13, 2004, 09:48 | bmd, I doubt if there is a practical way to break such ties considering the roster changes and the benching of players... why bother? | |||||
| 70 | Guru ID: 330592710 Fri, Aug 13, 2004, 10:01 |
Since Yahoo doesn't show the underlying numerator and denominator for ratios, there is no definitive way to break those ties. I have pretty good cumulative estimates of stats like ER, WH, AB, etc, but they are not definitive enough to use as a tiebreaker. If there's a tie in a category, so be it. | |||||
| 71 | Species Leader ID: 07724916 Fri, Aug 13, 2004, 13:39 |
I am interested in a good hitting outfielder who is strong in OBP/SLG and RBI. I don't need a speed guy. Can give up a Milton or Clement level pitcher. Schilling could be had but of course the level of OF increases dramatically that I would expect in return. | |||||
| 72 | blue hen ID: 372102211 Fri, Aug 13, 2004, 14:57 | butter | |||||
| 73 | beastiemiked Sustainer ID: 03531815 Fri, Aug 13, 2004, 15:03 |
Where did ukula's thread go? I was all set to "Mach" him. | |||||
| 74 | blue hen ID: 372102211 Fri, Aug 13, 2004, 15:47 | I thought that was CanEHdian Pride? | |||||
| 75 | blue hen ID: 353412123 Mon, Aug 23, 2004, 00:22 | Holy butt. Not much movement here or in the league. The trade deadline is upcoming and it looks like I'm keeping the rocket. And it looks like I'm staying in 14th. I tried, really I did. | |||||
| 76 | smartone @work ID: 10558714 Thu, Aug 26, 2004, 15:12 |
Vidro is out for the season so I am willing to give any of my SP/RP for a good MI | |||||
| 77 | blue hen ID: 372102211 Mon, Sep 13, 2004, 13:22 | I am making my move! If only my second pick was performing better. But I can't complain. I made my bed. | |||||
| 78 | Peter N. ID: 88211823 Tue, Sep 21, 2004, 20:46 | I've been waiting for someone to make a run at me and it appears that beastiemiked is doing that. Nice job bmd! | |||||
| 79 | Species Leader ID: 07724916 Wed, Sep 22, 2004, 19:54 |
I'll probably jinx myself, but I'm sooooooooooo happy that my team has made a great September run to requalify me for next year's RIBC. Timely pickups like Monroe and Buck (for his big 2-hr game), combined with HOT hitting from Jeter, Teixeira and Snow (all with OPS' over 1.000 in the last month) have vaulted me 10+ points in hitting since Sept. 1. My middle relievers have been just okay but at least they haven't cost me anything, and Schilling/El Duque/Maddux have been rock solid. .....now watch me lose 10 points in the next week and fall to 9th! lol | |||||
| 80 | Trip Donor ID: 13961611 Wed, Sep 22, 2004, 20:10 | Hoping I could quietly move up, so I've limited my posts. I said I wasn't going to finish with only 2 points for strikeouts and managed to make my way up to nine, while improving WHIP and wins. Too bad my hitting didn't hold up...or at least stay consistent. | |||||
| 81 | smartone ID: 313039 Thu, Sep 23, 2004, 09:30 | wooow -- what a run by BMD!!! ... can he catch PeterN?... I am capped to around 113 points, so I probably lost my chances to win, as I need BOTH PeterN and BMD lose 10 or so RIBC points. | |||||
| 82 | beastiemiked Sustainer ID: 03531815 Thu, Sep 23, 2004, 09:48 | We're about maxed out as well, as there are only 2-3 categories where I could possibly gain points and about 5-6 categories where I'm maintaining very small leads. It's gotten a lot more interesting the past week so hopefully my team can hold it's ground and somehow sneak past Peter's team. | |||||
| 83 | Trip ID: 478261310 Mon, Sep 27, 2004, 09:35 | WOW | |||||
| 84 | darkside ID: 4218517 Mon, Sep 27, 2004, 11:20 | Seriously! Nice job, bmd. Very impressive run. I can't believe Peter N.'s stranglehold on first has been relinquished. I honestly didn't think anyone would catch him. Best of luck to the both of you. | |||||
| 85 | Species Leader ID: 07724916 Mon, Sep 27, 2004, 11:23 |
Pretty damned impressive. Even if bmd doesn't complete the come-from-behind victory, what a huge run. Serious props, dude: Change in Rankings from Sep 1 through Sep 26 Rank Team R RBI SB OBP SLG W SV K ERA WHIP TOTAL 1 Bmd's Saboteurs +0.5 -1 0 +1.5 0 +7 +1.5 +1 +7 +3 +20.5 | |||||
| 86 | KrazyKoalaBears Leader ID: 517553018 Mon, Sep 27, 2004, 13:59 | +7 in W and +7 in ERA at the same time is amazing. | |||||
| 87 | blue hen ID: 372102211 Thu, Sep 30, 2004, 12:24 |
I knew BMD would be up there. Good work man. I totally didn't notice that I'd climbed to a tie for 10th. I haven't checked the team in a week or so, and I wonder if I'd be higher (or lower?) if I had. | |||||
| 88 | Species Leader ID: 07724916 Thu, Sep 30, 2004, 12:32 | Answer: LOWER | |||||
| 89 | Guru ID: 330592710 Thu, Sep 30, 2004, 12:47 |
I've moved up to 12th in the past few days, and it looks like I could finish anywhere from 10th-15th. After being mired in 15th for most of the season, any advancement is a nice recovery. If only I could have drafted better closers than Guardado and Mantei/Valverde. I just looked back at my Mantei rationale, and see that I wrote "The two top available closers were Mantei and Francisco Cordero, based on my rankings..." Brilliant pick of Mantei, eh? With my Guardado pick, I said "...the other closer alternatives were Isringhausen and Rhodes. Izzy was a close second, and I’d have taken him if Eddie had disappeared." Had I taken Isringhausen and Cordero instead, I'd have 64 more saves now. That would put me near the top in saves, with an additional 13.5 ranking points. And 13.5 points would put me in 8th place right now - assuming my ERA and WHIP would be no worse than currently. (They'd probably be much better.) A number of injuries put me in the hole early this year, but I think those two closer picks turned out to bring about the most damage. What a moron... | |||||
| 90 | darkside Dude ID: 3590317 Thu, Sep 30, 2004, 13:49 | bh - Carlos Guillen? Did you miss the memo that he had surgery 3 days ago? | |||||
| 91 | blue hen ID: 372102211 Thu, Sep 30, 2004, 14:22 | Obviously. Told ya I wasn't following. Funny Guillen doesn't have an IR next to his name. | |||||
| 92 | Species Leader ID: 07724916 Thu, Sep 30, 2004, 14:57 |
lol! I could see bh in his lavish 1-bedroom Bristol apartment peeing his pants: "Carlos Guillen is available! WOW! What a coup!" ;-) | |||||
| 93 | Trip Donor ID: 13961611 Fri, Oct 01, 2004, 00:29 |
Wait until he sees this A. Soriano (Tex - 2B) [ Add ] | |||||
| 94 | blue hen ID: 353412123 Fri, Oct 01, 2004, 01:13 |
Actually, Soriano made me look it up. I figured Guillen was cold, and better than Alomar, which he probably still is. My other major concern was that if I picked somebody up, it might affect the top of the charts, which is something I don't especially care to do. | |||||
| 95 | blue hen ID: 353412123 Fri, Oct 01, 2004, 01:14 | BH - you haven't affected anything at the top of the charts all season! | |||||
| 96 | darkside Dude ID: 3590317 Fri, Oct 01, 2004, 07:42 |
My other major concern was that if I picked somebody up, it might affect the top of the charts, which is something I don't especially care to do. Why the hell not? I'm doing everything in my power to get as many points as I can, regardless of who I take them away from. I could stop trying to get wins so bmd could get another point, but I won't. What if the Reds said the same thing. Not a very good approach, IMO. | |||||
| 97 | blue hen ID: 26957123 Sat, Oct 02, 2004, 02:02 |
That's a fair point. But if I haven't checked my team in a week, and suddenly I pick up a guy just as one of the contenders is about to... Heh, it doesn't matter much, I guess. I should have played better and been one of those contenders myself. That's all there is to it. | |||||
| 98 | Guru ID: 330592710 Sat, Oct 02, 2004, 09:32 |
...if I haven't checked my team in a week, and suddenly I pick up a guy just as one of the contenders is about to... So what? Are you saying that it is somehow unsporting to compete with the top teams for a free agent? I'd do it in a heartbeat, especially if I thought it would help my team pick up a point in some category. The team I'd be taking that point (or player) from is irrelevant. I understand that when the best you can hope to attain is a second division finish, attention may wane. But I can't understand why you would be reluctant to make any competitive move because it might impact the top teams. That line of thinking would not even cross my mind. Why not play the role of spoiler, if the opportunity is there? | |||||
| 99 | Species Leader ID: 07724916 Sun, Oct 03, 2004, 00:58 | FWIW I've forsaken rotating pitchers the last week for K's so as to not risk ERA/WHIP -- especially since my league-leading win total is unlikely to be climaxed. | |||||
| 100 | Slackjawed Yokel Leader ID: 052347519 Sun, Oct 03, 2004, 01:22 | hmm, about that league-leading win total... | |||||
| 101 | Species Leader ID: 07724916 Mon, Oct 04, 2004, 00:16 | lol........c'est la vie, SY | |||||
| 102 | Slackjawed Yokel Leader ID: 052347519 Mon, Oct 04, 2004, 08:42 |
Congrats Pete, nice job. And nice run there at the end, bmd to add some drama to the finish. and who would've thunk that smartone's strategy of punting two categories would've put him in the running? | |||||
| 103 | KrazyKoalaBears Leader ID: 517553018 Mon, Oct 04, 2004, 08:48 |
"We're #8! We're #8! We're #8!" After starting the season stuck in the 16 spot for a loooooooooooooong time, I'm quite pleased with my finish. I was definitely sweating it out watching the StatTracker all day yesterday! Major kudos to Peter N for his amazing finish and to bmd for giving him strong competition. If I had to do it all over again, I would change too many things to list. ;) For now, I'll be happy to have a chance to make those changes in next year's RIBC. | |||||
| 104 | darkside Dude ID: 3590317 Mon, Oct 04, 2004, 09:16 |
Good work by everyone. What a fantastic league...I had a ton of fun and look forward to next year! What happes with the tie between Ref and Caper? | |||||
| 105 | Guru ID: 330592710 Mon, Oct 04, 2004, 09:50 | The tie between Ref and Caper really doesn't matter, since they are out of the top 8. | |||||
| 106 | Ref Donor ID: 539581218 Mon, Oct 04, 2004, 11:12 |
Grats Pete! Very good show. I may have tied for 9th, but I feel like a winner. After falling from 2nd to 14th in less than a month, moving up to 9th and a point from 8th was incredible. I don't remember a year where injuries have affected me so much. For some reason I just could not overcome them this year. I decided that if I was going to gain, it had to start with SBs and that started turning things around a couple weeks ago. If I could have managed just .001 OBP or .001 SLGP... | |||||
| 107 | Species Leader ID: 07724916 Mon, Oct 04, 2004, 11:17 |
I'll take 6th for sure after a very poorly executed pitching "strategy". Going "cheapie" closers definitely didn't help - although it might not have been that strategy per se as much as it was the execution. Thank goodness some of my hitters turned it up the last 2 months or it would've been RIBC AAA for me next year. Congrats to Peter N. for a dominating year - and serious props to bmd for making it interesting and actually taking the lead once. Can't wait to tweak my strategy for next year! Crossing names like Phillips, Herges and Koch off the list should go a long way! lol | |||||
| 109 | darkside Dude ID: 3590317 Mon, Oct 04, 2004, 13:01 | Wow....I was working under the mistaken impression that it was the top 10, not the top 8. Apparently, rules aren't my strong point. | |||||
| 110 | Peter N. ID: 12912221 Mon, Oct 04, 2004, 17:03 |
First off, I'd like to thank Guru again for the invite to this league. I am honored to be part of it. Thanks to everyone for the kudos! And no thanks to bmd for giving me a scare these past couple of weeks!!!! ;-) Nah, seriously, good job dude. You definitely made things interesting down the stretch. I'm already looking forward to next year. | |||||
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