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0 Subject: WPFB discussion thread V2.0

Posted by: rockafellerskank
- Donor [359283123] Wed, Mar 06, 2002, 21:25

There are 150+ posts in the initial thread. I thought I'd start a new one since the 56k guys are probably getting slow page loads.

Let the bmd bashing continue! (still bummed about that Sasaki thing)

rfs ®


1CanEHdian Pride
      ID: 426351415
      Wed, Mar 06, 2002, 21:28
anyone headed to the chat room? Figured I'd try it out as long as I wasn't alone.
2ksoze
      Sustainer
      ID: 50643419
      Wed, Mar 06, 2002, 21:47
Ah... 56K. The good old days. Well, not really.
3Unemployed
      Donor
      ID: 172302820
      Wed, Mar 06, 2002, 21:49
Wiggs,
Did you ever receive the league invitation e-mail? Just wondering if you have the same problem. Blockaa has sent me that invite 3 times and I never get it. Apparently you have to enter through that e-mail to be linked to your team. I can see our league page but that's it. Click on a link and it tells me to go to the home page and sign in properly. Definitely anoying.
4wiggs
      ID: 131122820
      Wed, Mar 06, 2002, 21:50
unemployed, i got the email once, but it didnt work, and he has sent me many others and i havent gotten anymore. i dont understand it.
5wiggs
      ID: 131122820
      Wed, Mar 06, 2002, 21:56
and we are on the move again.
6CanEHdian Pride
      ID: 426351415
      Wed, Mar 06, 2002, 21:57
Party in the chatrroom. Get in while you still can!
7wiggs
      ID: 131122820
      Wed, Mar 06, 2002, 21:59
i just went to join the chat and it says guests arent allowed to join.
8rockafellerskank
      Donor
      ID: 359283123
      Wed, Mar 06, 2002, 22:00
wiggs it's the same as the other features. You can't access the site so you can't access chat either :(

rfs ®

9wiggs
      ID: 131122820
      Wed, Mar 06, 2002, 22:03
i can no get to the site. but i am not logged in. this is unreal.
10Unemployed
      Donor
      ID: 172302820
      Wed, Mar 06, 2002, 22:33
wazaaap guy is up. same thing here wiggs. i can see the league page and our team rosters when i'm not logged in but nothing else.
11beastiemiked
      ID: 14821921
      Wed, Mar 06, 2002, 23:14
Tomorrow is not too great for me as I have a basketball game at 9:30 CT so I won't be around from 9-11 but before and after then I should be around.

I'm having problems with running javascripts on my computer. Instead of loading it just gives an image icon without an image. I've reset IE defaults and various other things, if anyone has any idea what is the problem then help would be appreciated. Also, it's not my connection as I tried it on my much slower computer and javascripts worked.
12Rogue's Strikers
      ID: 31248618
      Wed, Mar 06, 2002, 23:27
Sorry guys, I got to head to bed. Got to get up early for school tomorrow. I'll try to check in before I go.
13ksoze
      Sustainer
      ID: 50643419
      Wed, Mar 06, 2002, 23:36
Well, Rogue and Eh are out for the night, I'll check back in the morning too.
14wiggs
      ID: 131122820
      Wed, Mar 06, 2002, 23:37
well today was a tough day for the draft. Hope to knock off a few rounds tomorrow. night all
15ksoze
      Sustainer
      ID: 50643419
      Thu, Mar 07, 2002, 10:01
blockaa and Rogue... we were in one of deepsnapper's keeper Sandbox leagues last year (Rotoguru Gold Glovers) and it looks like the league redrafts on the 11th. Just an FYI.
16 rockafellerskank
      Donor
      ID: 921448
      Thu, Mar 07, 2002, 11:54
Hello?
Hello?
Hello?

Anyone online?

Today is a good day for me to be around a lot. I'm hoping to knock of a few rounds!

If anyone is scetchy and you want to send me a que, I'll be more than glad to follow your instructions. e-mail: rockafellerskank007@yahoo.com

rfs ®



17wiggs
      ID: 131122820
      Thu, Mar 07, 2002, 11:58
RFS, i am here too, but i will not be around all day so if we dont get moving alittle bit this day will be a waste too. I have class from 2-515 with a short break in the middle and then i am going to the globetrotters game so i wont be around until after 10 or 11. hopefully we can get some picks in before i go.
18ksoze
      Sustainer
      ID: 50643419
      Thu, Mar 07, 2002, 12:00
Well, I'm here... waiting. I have Eh's next pick so I can turn things around if Rogue shows up. Obviously, though, Eh's only going to let me know one pick... wouldn't wanna give me a large queue :-) so we'll be stuck back on him till he can check in from school.
19wiggs
      ID: 131122820
      Thu, Mar 07, 2002, 12:07
just a suggestion, but i am thinking when i have to leave i queue i should leave it with ksoze, eh or rogue and people from the other end should leave them with me, blockaa and beastie. That way you can leave more then 1 pick as a queue. What do you all think?
20ksoze
      Sustainer
      ID: 50643419
      Thu, Mar 07, 2002, 12:08
Makes sense... unfortunately I was the only one around when Eh IM'd me.
21wiggs
      ID: 131122820
      Thu, Mar 07, 2002, 12:09
ksoze, i am on line almost 24 hours a day. Do you have aim? If so what is your sn?
22ksoze
      Sustainer
      ID: 50643419
      Thu, Mar 07, 2002, 12:11
kzersoze
23wiggs
      ID: 131122820
      Thu, Mar 07, 2002, 13:05
blockaa figured out why i couldnt get in and fixed it. I wanted to tell you i appriciate what you did.
24blockaa
      Donor
      ID: 550321519
      Thu, Mar 07, 2002, 13:31

Rogue . . where'd you go?

ok . . . I updated everyone's team through 8.2 on CBS.
25Rogue's Strikers
      ID: 10235713
      Thu, Mar 07, 2002, 13:38
Sorry guys, had a class I couldn't miss. I picked, wazaaap is on the clock.
26Unemployed
      Donor
      ID: 53428912
      Thu, Mar 07, 2002, 13:51
blockaa,

when you get the chance, try sending the commissioner.com league invite to cwang@usfreightways.com.

27beastiemiked
      ID: 17414316
      Thu, Mar 07, 2002, 13:56
Can we start a new draft thread soon, the other one is getting long.
29blockaa
      Donor
      ID: 550321519
      Thu, Mar 07, 2002, 14:05

beastiemiked - it is done . .
Chung - just sent you an invitation to that address. Let me know if you don't receive it. I sent an e-mail (on wiggs behalf) to the people at CBS and will do the same for you if needed.

30beastiemiked
      ID: 17414316
      Thu, Mar 07, 2002, 14:26
Does someone want to do a recap to post in the draft thread? I would but I'm at "work".
31Unemployed
      Donor
      ID: 53428912
      Thu, Mar 07, 2002, 14:26
blockaa,

That worked! I got in the site.
32Code Cracker
      Leader
      ID: 1701629
      Thu, Mar 07, 2002, 14:56
dgausbun is up....
33wiggs
      ID: 131122820
      Thu, Mar 07, 2002, 15:45
I waited as long as i could. I am off to class and after that directly to the globetrotters game. I will do my best to check in, but i cant promise anything. I should be able to pick around 11 tonight. Peace

also there was no one around to take a queue so i couldnt even leave one.
34rockafellerskank
      Donor
      ID: 921448
      Thu, Mar 07, 2002, 15:48
WIGGS: E-mail me your que! rockafellerskank007@yahoo.com

if I didn't already miss you

rfs ®



35rockafellerskank
      Donor
      ID: 921448
      Thu, Mar 07, 2002, 15:50
blockaa (or should I say, Barbie) :)

If you are taking team naming requests, my actual team name should be: The Rockafellerskank

Thanks.

rfs ®

36rockafellerskank
      Donor
      ID: 921448
      Thu, Mar 07, 2002, 15:52
CP

You don't have to explain if it reveals something related to your stategy, but i am curious as to why you locked up two (2) 3B's so early?

rfs ®

37CanEHdian Pride
      Donor
      ID: 426351415
      Thu, Mar 07, 2002, 16:17
Not sure if it gives too much away but Nevin is supposedly making the switch to 1B to make room for Burroughs. Thus I'm very deep at 3B but can keep both players in my lineup. I felt Nevin gave me good draft flexibility because if a run started on 3B I could play him there but if one was left for too long (Chavez IMO) I could snatch him up and shuffle Nevin to 1B. I thought of all the 1B left that Nevin was the best so moving Nevin to 1B didn't mean that I missed out on a better 1B then had I waited to draft a "true" 3B or 1B.

Kind of confussing perhaps but I thought he was one of the better players available and he gave me flexibility later in the draft.
38rockafellerskank
      Donor
      ID: 921448
      Thu, Mar 07, 2002, 17:15
CP Good points. I hadn't thought of it that way.

bmd is up. Let's all hope Jeff Kent stays away from car washes.

rfs ®

39wiggs
      ID: 1911252811
      Thu, Mar 07, 2002, 17:50
rfs, are you still available to take my queue?
40ksoze @ work
      ID: 1528518
      Thu, Mar 07, 2002, 17:52
If he's not around send it to me at bbteams@yahoo.com.
41rockafellerskank
      Donor
      ID: 359283123
      Thu, Mar 07, 2002, 18:10
I have wiggs queue for when it is his turn!

rfs ®

42beastiemiked
      ID: 14821921
      Thu, Mar 07, 2002, 18:50
Does anyone mind if I take back my Vidro pick? I picked not knowing about his injury, no one else has picked yet.
43ksoze @ work
      ID: 1528518
      Thu, Mar 07, 2002, 18:59
I don't care one way or the other but shouldn't your pick be 8.10?
44rockafellerskank
      Donor
      ID: 359283123
      Thu, Mar 07, 2002, 19:04
I don't mind, but I do think that if another pick gets logged.. NO WAY.. can you change

rfs ®

45beastiemiked
      ID: 14821921
      Thu, Mar 07, 2002, 19:06
Ok fixed that problem. I'm sorry for this but right after I picked I saw he had just gotten a MRI.


Oh yeah, wg said he wasn't going to be back until 10-11 ET.
46rockafellerskank
      Donor
      ID: 359283123
      Thu, Mar 07, 2002, 22:06
If you're hanging out waiting for the draft to move, stick close. blockaa is up and I have bmd's pick ready to and my pick is ready (no research needed.

rfs ®

47rockafellerskank
      Donor
      ID: 359283123
      Thu, Mar 07, 2002, 22:33
To all: I'll be offline shortly. If it gets back to me I'll be able to pick by 6A (MST)

rfs ®



48blockaa
      Donor
      ID: 550321519
      Thu, Mar 07, 2002, 23:26

Teams are updated through 9.06. I have a queue for Phil.
49Unemployed
      Donor
      ID: 172302820
      Fri, Mar 08, 2002, 00:08
I'm off. Will pick by 9am tomorrow if it gets back to me.
50rockafellerskank
      Donor
      ID: 921448
      Fri, Mar 08, 2002, 09:54
I have a suggestion to toss out.... so I will...

Since the draft really locks us into to our staff, and the signing to contracts seals the deal, what do you think about a "free trading period" that would begin immediately after the last pick and ends exactly with contracts are due (48 hours after final pick) ???

For example, Owner A could trade a P to owner B for a SS. Since there aren't contracts, there are no salary issues. The only restriction I can think of is that they would need to be 1 to 1 trades (or 2 to 2 trades, etc...) so drops/adds aren't in play. Maybe there would have to be a commisioner approval to avoid collusion or one sided trades, but I don't think that would be an issue. The newly acquired player(s) would still have to be signed by the deadline to a contract.

What I am getting at is this... after contracts are signed (since everyone has a different line of thinking), that same P for SS trade may not be doable if Owner A signed his guy to a 4-year deal and Owner B signed his player to a 1-year deal. Well, it's doable, but much more complicated.

Who knows, perhaps no one will be willing to play Let's Make A Deal, but it will add one small element of fun/strategy to our game.

The same "free trading period" could happen after our free agnet draft next year to (because these players are unsigned) but existing players will still fall under normal rules.

Thought I'd toss this out for discussion. just a way to work on your rosters before they are cemented.

rfs ®


51wiggs
      ID: 1911252811
      Fri, Mar 08, 2002, 10:16
RFS
i am up for a free trade period, as long as this draft finishs atleast say 5 days before the season starts. I think we need a few days to decide on the deals we are going to give our players before they are set in stone. I know that the season is along way off, but at the current pace we are setting we will take atleast another week, if not more IMO.
52beastiemiked
      ID: 17414316
      Fri, Mar 08, 2002, 10:28
Darn it EH, I wanted Preston.
53CCRider
      ID: 9802113
      Fri, Mar 08, 2002, 10:30
rfs, I'm good with the free trading period...just to make this a little more interesting from the start.


54beastiemiked
      ID: 17414316
      Fri, Mar 08, 2002, 10:33
I'm good with the free trading period and I don't think we should have to sign our players until say 2 days before opening day.
55CCRider
      ID: 9802113
      Fri, Mar 08, 2002, 10:36
What is the deadline for signing players to contracts? I thought I had read something about 48 hours but I'd certainly be open to extending that deadline to allow more time to evaluate and to make free trades.
56beastiemiked
      ID: 17414316
      Fri, Mar 08, 2002, 10:37
IIRC it's 48 hours after the draft according to the rules.
57Rogue's Strikers
      ID: 10235713
      Fri, Mar 08, 2002, 10:51
I think a free trading period is a good idea. Say, for 48 or 72 hours after the draft? (Depending on when we finish?) Then, for the 48 hours following that, you have to sign your contracts. No trading should be allowed during that time.
58blockaa
      Donor
      ID: 550321519
      Fri, Mar 08, 2002, 10:57

Alright . . need to make this quick because I gots to go . .

I think that idea sounds interesting Tim, but I have several reservations . .
  • it might change people's strategies . . .
  • deals might be in the workings BEFORE completion of the draft . .
  • . . and it makes it more advantageous to just draft the 'best player available' rather than drafting specifically for your team
Personally, I don't think it's something we should do . . . at least not in this initial draft. However, if the majority of you feel different . . . . well . . .

I'll probably be gone for the next 4 hours . . . I probably won't hold up the draft, but dgausbun might (don't know if he was able to logon this morning, or not) . . . I'm out . .


59ksoze
      Sustainer
      ID: 50643419
      Fri, Mar 08, 2002, 11:07
I'm gonna have to go with blockaa on this one. While it sounds like a fun idea it may cause a change in strategy in the middle of the draft.

Also, one of the things that makes this league different from, for example, Sandbox, is the bones requirement/limit. I'm not sure I want to start figuring out ways to get around the bones.

If anything this shouldn't be a rule change that's implemented now, not after 40% of the draft is finished, but rather before next season.
60rockafellerskank
      Donor
      ID: 921448
      Fri, Mar 08, 2002, 11:10
blockaa and All

Yes, all valid points, but those 3 factors are all included in how the real GM's appraoch drafts!

Again, I only brought it up for disussion. Frankly, I guess it's not really fair to add any rule changes in the middle of the draft since we all signed on for a paticular set of rules.

Which brings me to a second thought. Obviuosly over the course of the first year, there are going to be ideas brought up for disussion such as Minor Leagues and Free Trading Period. Some will be good and some will be bad.

In the future, should we establish some sort of minimum voting percentage to change a rule? Just like the real MLB owners. For example, maybe 8 positive votes should be required to change a rule or add a rule etc.... That way everybody gets to add their $0.02.

rfs ®








61Rogue's Strikers
      ID: 10235713
      Fri, Mar 08, 2002, 12:06
I like that idea rfs. 66% seems like a fair requirement to me.

I was just reading the rules for tduncan's new league, and noticed something that maybe we should consider. Will next year's draft be snake style or normal? Snake is meant to keep things fair and equal for all, but that isn't really our goal next year, is it?
62rockafellerskank
      Donor
      ID: 921448
      Fri, Mar 08, 2002, 12:17
CCRidder is up. He's in a meeting, but should be able to pick in 10-20 mins.

Nice choice Unemployed. I think Damon was a great pick up this late.

rfs ®

63beastiemiked
      ID: 17414316
      Fri, Mar 08, 2002, 12:18
dgausban are you around?
64Unemployed
      Donor
      ID: 53428912
      Fri, Mar 08, 2002, 12:22
Rogue,

That's a good point. Without a great deal of thought, I'd say a normal draft of 1-12, and then 1 starts again. The whole point of the draft order after the season is to help the last place team, so this would make sense.

As for the trading period, it's not a big deal to me either way but I'd prefer to wait until next season's draft.
65cEHp @ school
      ID: 17218812
      Fri, Mar 08, 2002, 12:26
I think we should wait until next year. I've approached this draft by "signing contracts" as I make my picks. If we change now someone who has/could stock up on youth/vets without considering the long term/short term implications that come with it. Had this been the rule from the onset the strategies utilized by some may have been different. Though I'm not opposed to implementing such an idea in future drafts.
66Code Cracker
      Leader
      ID: 1701629
      Fri, Mar 08, 2002, 12:45
I agree with Unemployed and cEHp. Next year would be great for a trading period and the draft doesn't snake.
67ksoze
      Sustainer
      ID: 50643419
      Fri, Mar 08, 2002, 13:03
Off to work, should have laptop access again.
68beastiemiked
      ID: 14821921
      Fri, Mar 08, 2002, 13:12
I had a few random thoughts about the playoffs and prize distribution.

First, I don't think it's fair that if a team finishes first in the regular season then has one bad week and ends up not winning any cash(and getting 0 bonus bones). I think the division winners for the regular season should be given some of the prize money. Not as much as the playoff winners but enough to reward them for winning their division.

If we are going to give money out to to the division winners, I think during the first week of the playoffs the division winners should play each other instead of sitting idle for a week. This matchup could be used to determine how much each division winner gets, say 40 bucks for the winner of that match up and 20 bucks for the loser. If we take out the 60 bucks for division winners then I see the prize break down for the playoffs as, $80 1st place $40 2nd place and $20 3rd place.

What do you guys think?
69CanEHdian Pride
      Donor
      ID: 426351415
      Fri, Mar 08, 2002, 13:36
I don't have a problem with that and since it really only affects the Champion I think that if I'm alright with it there need be no further discussion.
70Code Cracker
      Leader
      ID: 1701629
      Fri, Mar 08, 2002, 14:02
I brought this up with blockaa before the draft. I agree the division winners should get something, how much is another question.
71rockafellerskank
      Donor
      ID: 359283123
      Fri, Mar 08, 2002, 14:06
The division winner could win "bones" Or does that defeat the purpose of the rich get richer.....

I'm indifferent. I'll go with the flow since I will be winning my division and the tourney.

Code Cracker, Give any thought to team name change to "No SPs Allowed" ? LOL

;)


rfs ®

72wiggs
      ID: 131122820
      Fri, Mar 08, 2002, 14:59
I am out of here at 430 est, if my pick isnt up yet i will make it around 11 or 12 tonight.
73blockaa
      Donor
      ID: 550321519
      Fri, Mar 08, 2002, 15:40

great . . . it's good to hear people throw out ideas/suggestions. It's those things that will strengthen the league and make the game more fun.

Richard . . . I noticed (post 61) where you mentioned tduncan's idea of a 'normal style' draft. I'm glad you brought this up. If you look back on the rules page that I wrote up for our league, you'll notice under the free agent/rookie draft heading where I clearly state that these drafts will be worst to first every round (not serpentine). I think this is one of the many rules that tduncan borrowed when writing up the rules for his league. But enough about that . . . I won't say anything more . . . seeing as how several of the guys in this league are also participating in that one.

I like the idea of a two-thirds vote on any rule change. Hopefully we won't run into many big 'issues', but you never know . .

I'll think more about the prize money and weigh in on that soon. We obviously need a decision before the season begins. The 'free trade period' is something we won't be using this draft, but may think about using it for future drafts . . . right? Great . . . need to research my next pick.


74Rogue's Strikers
      ID: 10235713
      Fri, Mar 08, 2002, 15:44
Oops, I probably should have checked into the rules before posting, but oh well. Good to see its an issue that was already thought of.

I'm in agreement with the rest so far on the prize distibution. Making the playoffs is half the battle, and thus should deserve a prize.
75rockafellerskank
      Donor
      ID: 921448
      Fri, Mar 08, 2002, 15:59
CP- thanks for picking for me. If I'm not around for my next turn, go ahead a pick that ather guy I gave you. I'll be back online about 330P (MST)

rfs ®

76wiggs
      ID: 131122820
      Fri, Mar 08, 2002, 16:18
well guys, i am out of here. I will not be able to pick tonight til probably around midnight. I am sorry if this is an inconvinence, but i have been waiting patiently all day to make my picks and it just isnt moving.
peace
77Unemployed
      Donor
      ID: 53428912
      Fri, Mar 08, 2002, 16:36
RFS,

Damon was a hard pick for me. He screwed my team in the first half last year and there are a couple of other players I really want. Obviously hoping he'll do well.
78rockafellerskank
      Donor
      ID: 359283123
      Fri, Mar 08, 2002, 19:29
It's 530P MST. I'll be gone 1-2 hours. I have bmd's next pick if it gets to him (and he's not back). I gave bmd's next pick to CCR as well as mine, so he may chime in if it moves along.

rfs ®

79Rogue's Strikers
      ID: 10235713
      Fri, Mar 08, 2002, 19:33
K guys, I'm heading out to a party now, wont be in tonight to check if I'm up. I'll pick tomorrow when I wake up. (Assuming its back to me by them.)
80Code Cracker
      Leader
      ID: 21752128
      Fri, Mar 08, 2002, 20:20
rfs, you love those rookies... >) I may have to break down and take a pitcher this time, guys.
81blockaa
      Donor
      ID: 550321519
      Fri, Mar 08, 2002, 21:19

Teams updated on CBS through 11.05.
82CCRider
      ID: 47662912
      Fri, Mar 08, 2002, 22:06
Anyone know if Code Cracker is around to make his next pick? If not, I'm out for the night. I'll wait a while longer...
83rockafellerskank
      Donor
      ID: 359283123
      Fri, Mar 08, 2002, 22:13
CCR, You can leave me a queue if it will help.

rfs ®

84Code Cracker
      Leader
      ID: 21752128
      Fri, Mar 08, 2002, 22:33
Go for it, CCR. Tough choice I had to make...
85Unemployed
      Donor
      ID: 172302820
      Fri, Mar 08, 2002, 22:36
rfs,

i'm just sent you my queue. you seem to be the only one around. be back in a couple of hours
86Code Cracker
      Leader
      ID: 21752128
      Fri, Mar 08, 2002, 22:46
rfs, just sent you some cash. You around the league chat room?
87rockafellerskank
      Donor
      ID: 359283123
      Fri, Mar 08, 2002, 22:53
I picked for Unemployed from his que. wazaapp_guy is up.

rfs ®

88Unemployed
      Donor
      ID: 172302820
      Sat, Mar 09, 2002, 00:47
Thanks rfs. Looks like it probably won't move much tonite. Seeya guys tomorrow.
89blockaa
      Donor
      ID: 550321519
      Sat, Mar 09, 2002, 02:33

Michael . . . really great ideas about the prize money (post 68). I think that breakdown is perfect, too. Should be fun knowing that two teams will be playing for money in the first round of the playoffs.
    In favor of beastiemiked's proposal in post 68:
  • beastie
  • blockaa
  • dgausbun
  • cEHp
  • Code Cracker
  • rockafellerskank
Only two more votes and the referendum will be passed.

I'm extremely pleased with the way everything has gone thus far. The draft is moving along nicely and we should have no problems completing all 25 rounds in time. I believe at our current pace we should finish up around the 20th (just a guess). It's nice to see camaraderie/competitiveness rather than so much of the chaos/bickering going on lately on these boards. I realize wazaaap_guy hates his team, but I hope that everyone else is happy with their picks. Usually I find picking in these type drafts to be fairly easy, but I feel like I've had several difficult choices already in this one.

for those who don't know . . . rockafellerskank is going to be our 'bones guy'. He will keep up with everyone's 'bone balance' and make sure that all transactions are legit (with regard to bones). As stated in the rules, everyone will receive 30 bones after players from this initial draft have been signed to contracts. Out . . .

90blockaa
      Donor
      ID: 550321519
      Sat, Mar 09, 2002, 04:34

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91ksoze
      Sustainer
      ID: 50643419
      Sat, Mar 09, 2002, 09:44
I'll 2nd... er... 7th bmd's proposal. Great idea.
92CCRider
      ID: 47662912
      Sat, Mar 09, 2002, 11:01
I didn't realize the prize $ discussion was actually a vote...I am all for the idea. That should make 8 'yes' votes.
93CanEHdian Pride
      Donor
      ID: 426351415
      Sat, Mar 09, 2002, 11:09
Man, Rogue got so drunk last night that I woke up with a hang over.
94ksoze
      Sustainer
      ID: 50643419
      Sat, Mar 09, 2002, 11:21
Eh, if you woke up with Rogue and his hangover please let him know it's his turn to pick ;-).
95wazaaap_guy
      ID: 5178246
      Sat, Mar 09, 2002, 11:33
oh for the record, i am still gonna stay competetive and not give up or anything, and still plan on winning. but i still don't like my team.
96wiggs
      ID: 191127230
      Sat, Mar 09, 2002, 12:13
what happened here? Did the draft stall for the weekend?
97rockafellerskank
      Donor
      ID: 359283123
      Sat, Mar 09, 2002, 12:17
Rogue is up. I belive CP is ready to go. I have 2 picks for ksoze. CP can fire away again. wg is online (away), so we can move a bunch as soon as Rogue picks. I believe he said he would try to pick this AM/early PM?

rfs ®

98Rogue's Strikers
      ID: 622822
      Sat, Mar 09, 2002, 12:29
Just woke up guys. (And I really wish I hadn't.) Give me, oh, 10-12 hours to figure out where I am and I'll pick.
99Rogue's Strikers
      ID: 622822
      Sat, Mar 09, 2002, 12:43
These picks just keep getting harder and harder...
100CanEHdian Pride
      Donor
      ID: 426351415
      Sat, Mar 09, 2002, 12:45
It's coming back to you Rogue.....I'm here and Keyzer has a queue. Stand by.
101rockafellerskank
      Donor
      ID: 359283123
      Sat, Mar 09, 2002, 12:53
Last 5 picks in 4 mins! Sorry guys, I was the hold up during that stretch!

I'll be around for 60 mins, then I'll be looking to leave some picks w/ someone.

rfs ®

102rockafellerskank
      Donor
      ID: 359283123
      Sat, Mar 09, 2002, 13:00
WPFB discussion continued ........
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