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Subject: Dirty Dozen 2009 Keeper Declaration and Discussio

Posted by: Khahan - [486552412] Sun, Jan 25, 2009, 18:43

Hey all,

I was a little slow getting things started this year. Normally we have keepers declared by Jan 31. Since I'm slow, we're going to push the keeper declaration date.

Keepers are due by Sunday, Feb 8 at 11:59pm (using the time stamp on the website here). That gives everybody 2 weeks to start making their decisions and handle anymore last minute trades.

Please list your keepers in their own post and state your team name and Keeper list so its easy for me to find. Do not put anything else in the post.

Any suggestions you want to rattle around, present here.

$10 league fees are due by April. GO handled last year and I'm hoping he is this year as well. I'll let him send out the contact info again.

Good luck in 2009.

Weasel
ID: 120513019
Fri, Jan 30, 2009, 21:04

Weasel's Keepers:

(Any/all draft picks are on the block to improve on this pathetic group listed below!)

Soriano
Youkoulis
B Phillips
A Ramirez
Morneau
Jeter

barilko6
ID: 310183112
Sat, Jan 31, 2009, 13:19

Weasel...you get to keep 1 more for 7 in total!

Perm Dude
ID: 43023112
Sat, Jan 31, 2009, 13:32

shhh!

:)

Khahan
ID: 486552412
Sun, Feb 01, 2009, 07:53

He's too embarrassed to post a 7th keeper.

wiggs
Sustainer
ID: 04991311
Tue, Feb 03, 2009, 08:54

Keeping

Garrett Atkins
Jason Bay
Curtis Granderson
Francisco Liriano
Ben Sheets
Derek Lee
John Lackey

For Now-

Great One
ID: 151126410
Tue, Feb 03, 2009, 14:01

I know I always say it... but if you put your 7 keepers, and then also list your leftovers, you may get a pick out of it without much effort.

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Tue, Feb 03, 2009, 15:25

Thanks to the members of The Dirty Dozen for inviting me into your league. It should be a great season.-loki

holt
ID: 4410182818
Tue, Feb 03, 2009, 23:56

hey loki. goin' down.

Great One
ID: 151126410
Wed, Feb 04, 2009, 09:05

Loki is helping with our New Jersey quota... thats where all the talent is!!! :)

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Wed, Feb 04, 2009, 16:21

Unless I substitute a pitcher before the deadline, these are my keepers:

Ellsbury,Jacob

Fielder,Prince

Utley,Chase

Martin,Russel

Pedroia,Dustin

Sizemore,Grady

Zimmerman,Ryan

Would someone please post the starting positions.

Thanks.

Weasel
ID: 33124419
Wed, Feb 04, 2009, 20:33

Including my SEVENTH pick ;)

Soriano
Youkoulis
B Phillips
A Ramirez
Morneau
Jeter
Pierre

Plenty o' speed. No power. No pitching. In for a great year ahead. LOL

loki
ID: 29150421
Wed, Feb 04, 2009, 22:50

As of now I am not keeping any of my pitchers.
They are all available for a trade that would
upgrade my hitters.

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Thu, Feb 05, 2009, 10:45

Weasel, what's your email?

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Fri, Feb 06, 2009, 11:13

Weasel? I think we need to talk.

Also, Loki, what's your email?

Weasel
ID: 37130618
Fri, Feb 06, 2009, 19:32

Email: chdr9@allstate.com

loki
ID: 30153521
Fri, Feb 06, 2009, 20:12

New keeper list:

Ellsbury,Jacob

Fielder,Prince

Utley,Chase

Martin,Russel

Pedroia,Dustin

Sizemore,Grady

Lee,Cliff

Perm Dude
ID: 27127610
Fri, Feb 06, 2009, 22:50

Tentative keepers:

Jorge Cantu
Ryan Ludwick
Nate McLouth
Joba Chamberlain
CC Sabathia
Roy Halladay
Ricky Nolasco

Tentative leavers:

Adrian Beltre
Orlando Cabrera
Cristian Guzman
Jerry Hairston, Jr.
Brad Hawpe
Adam Jones
Fred Lewis
Jose Lopez
AJ Pierzynski
Randy Winn
Luis Ayala
Grant Balfour
Jeff Samardzija
Max Scherzer
Adam Wainwright
Randy Johnson

Tree
ID: 1311551521
Sat, Feb 07, 2009, 09:36

crap. keepers are past due?

astade
ID: 191134222
Sat, Feb 07, 2009, 14:03

Keepers (subject to change):

Hanley Ramírez (Fla - SS)

Mark Teixeira (NYY - 1B)

Miguel Cabrera (Det - 1B,3B)

Matt Kemp (LAD - OF)

Jake Peavy (SD - SP)

James Shields (TB - SP)

Carlos Zambrano (ChC - SP)

astade
ID: 191134222
Sat, Feb 07, 2009, 14:14

Available for an upgrade in picks:

Dan Uggla (Fla - 2B) has 30hr avg the last 3 seasons!

Johnny Damon (NYY - OF) look for 110R/30SB/.300avg in a great Yankees lineup

Magglio Ordóñez (Det - OF) 20HR/100RBI and a top-20 BA

Brian Fuentes (LAA - RP) new closer for the Angels

Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Sat, Feb 07, 2009, 17:22

Post 0 says keepers are due Feb 8th. I see no reason why it needs to be this early. Anyone else for pushing the deadline to at least the end of the month?

blue hen
ID: 8115717
Sat, Feb 07, 2009, 19:46

Second the motion.

Khahan
ID: 486552412
Sat, Feb 07, 2009, 21:26

Its that early because I need ot get the draft set up on kafenatid, have everybody register for the draft and input the keepers into the draft before we can begin.

Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Sun, Feb 08, 2009, 05:33

Keeping:

Alex Rodriguez
Jose Reyes
Vladimir Guerrero
David Ortiz
Carlos Quentin
Brandon Webb
Scott Kazmir

Available for a slight pick upgrade:

Corey Hart
Shane Victorino
Rich Harden
Jose Valverde
Joe Saunders

blue hen
ID: 8115717
Sun, Feb 08, 2009, 11:54

In case I don't get to it later tonight:

Keepers:
Pujols, Albert
Crawford, Carl
Dunn, Adam
Lidge, Brad
Cain, Matt
Billingsley, Chad
Broxton, Jonathan

Leavers (still available at bargain prices):
Mauer, Joe
Hafner, Travis
Dye, Jermaine
Theriot, Ryan

barilko6
ID: 58133021
Sun, Feb 08, 2009, 12:37

For me as well:

Lance Berkman
Francisco Rodriguez
Jon Papelbon
Ryan Braun
Troy Tulowitzki
David Price
Alex Rios

Khahan
ID: 486552412
Sun, Feb 08, 2009, 14:41

Khahan's Keepers:

Adrian Gonzalez
Evan Longoria
Manny Ramirez
BJ Upton
Dan Haren
Felix Hernandez
Carlo Lee

Great One
ID: 4510512113
Sun, Feb 08, 2009, 20:02

The other problem I'm having with the early deadline is the fact that the Yahoo game still isn't even up yet. Can't get a feel for eligibility cause sometimes they do positions on a whim it feels like.

Great One
ID: 10658208
Sun, Feb 08, 2009, 20:07

Keepers...

Johan Santana
Josh Beckett
Dice-K
Ryan Howard
Jimmy Rollins
Ian Kinsler
Conor Jackson

barilko6
ID: 18155220
Sun, Feb 08, 2009, 20:21

I would love for an extension as well...

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Sun, Feb 08, 2009, 20:55

Trade between Great One and loki:

Howard and Rollins-->Fielder and Pedroia

Great One
ID: 10658208
Sun, Feb 08, 2009, 22:46

Agreed.

GO's new keepers below... this trade doesn't really impact keeper deadline - its a 2 for 2 of all keepers so if loki doesn't get up his updated keepers til after we can technically make it "during the draft" trade.

Johan Santana
Josh Beckett
Dice-K
Prince Fielder
Ian Kinsler
Dustin Pedroia
Conor Jackson

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Sun, Feb 08, 2009, 22:54

New keeper list:

Ellsbury,Jacob

Howard, Ryan

Utley,Chase

Martin,Russel

Rollins, Jimmy

Sizemore,Grady

Lee,Cliff

Tree
ID: 1311551521
Sun, Feb 08, 2009, 23:09

so are we moving this deadline, or not? i mean, pitchers and catchers haven't even reported, so we have plenty of time...

astade
ID: 191134222
Sun, Feb 08, 2009, 23:15

I say that we move ahead with the keeper declaration ( i wish it was later too) bearing in mind why Khahan set it up this way. He has a lot of work to do on the back-end of things.

If we vote on this, perhaps we can move it back for next year. We've had 2 weeks, so we are even footing for this year but moving forward maybe we can set a more aggressive date closer to Opening day?

holt
ID: 4410182818
Sun, Feb 08, 2009, 23:48

David Wright (NYM - 3B)
Matt Holliday (Oak - OF)
Tim Lincecum (SF - SP)
Ichiro Suzuki (Sea - OF)
Joe Nathan (Min - RP)
Brian McCann (Atl - C)
Chipper Jones (Atl - 3B)

Khahan
ID: 486552412
Mon, Feb 09, 2009, 01:12

Guys, just want to remind you that this years keeper deadline is a week and a half later in the season than it was last year.

Khahan
ID: 1065339
Mon, Feb 09, 2009, 09:34

I have signed us up for the draft on kafenatid. Registration will begin once I get the email to confirm everything.

A reminder about our rules:

Positions:
C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, OF, OF, OF, Util, SP, SP, SP, RP, RP, P, P, P, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN

You may only draft players listed in the Yahoo database. There is no holding of spots. If you draft a guy from kafenatid who is not in yahoo the draft goes on. I may not catch it right away and any players picked after that pick will stand and will not be available for you.

If a player gets added part way thru the Yahoo draft and 5 mins after you made your pick...tough. Poor timing, but we are all subject to the same potential. No do overs.

23 rounds less 7 keepers is 16 rounds of draft to go thru.

Players listed in my que are ineligible to be drafted (crap, that won't fly, will it?). Ok srike that rule.

Payments are due to GO. Please check your email for his contact info. (and GO, please send me the info again, I emptied my inbox w/out sorting that out into my Dirty Dozen folder).

barilko6
ID: 58133021
Mon, Feb 09, 2009, 11:47

Keepers are in from:

Holt
Loki
Great One
Khahan
Barilko6
Blue Hen
Da Bomb
Astade
Perm Dude
Little Weasel
Wiggs

Who am I missing?

astade
ID: 340382914
Mon, Feb 09, 2009, 12:30

Khahan,

Thanks for all the info. Aside from the kafenatid setup can you create the Yahoo League? That would be especially useful for drafting.

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Mon, Feb 09, 2009, 12:56

You're missing Tree. Based on his comments this weekend, he's not ready.

Tree
ID: 1311551521
Mon, Feb 09, 2009, 12:56

i will have my keepers posted in a couple hours. sorry for the delay.

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Mon, Feb 09, 2009, 13:10

About when will the draft start, and what is the draft order? Thanks

Khahan
ID: 1065339
Mon, Feb 09, 2009, 13:58

Yahoo is not set up and running yet. But I still need everybody to get registered startig to tomorrow at Kafenatid.net

Draft order is reverse order of finish.
Last season standings:
. HOLT 110
2. Da Bomb Squad 103
3. GOs SecondCitySaints 82.5
4. Necro Butcher's Soul 82
5. Barilko Killer B's 71
6. Astade 68.5
7. Rev's Redbirds 54.5
8. Blue Hen 47
9. Perm Dudes 42.5
10. Khahan's Keepers 40.5
11. wiggs 39.5
12. Little Weasel 39

So little weasel picks first, then wiggs, me, etc.

Tree has plenty of time yet to post his keepers. Been in multiple leagus w/ him for a few years. No reason to think he needs reminders. :)

Also, one other aspect of finalizing keepers now: We now know who the player pool is so we can start planning draft strategies.

Perm Dude
ID: 2415292
Mon, Feb 09, 2009, 14:02

Did you send me the OTC information?

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Mon, Feb 09, 2009, 14:19

Please send me the league ID and password for Kafenatid. Thanks.

Khahan
ID: 1065339
Mon, Feb 09, 2009, 15:09

I have signed us up for the draft on kafenatid. Registration will begin once I get the email to confirm everything.

get registered starting to tomorrow at Kafenatid.net

Tree
ID: 1311551521
Mon, Feb 09, 2009, 16:53

keepers:
Carlos Beltrán (NYM - OF)
Josh Hamilton (Tex - OF)
Nick Markakis (Bal - OF)
Víctor Martínez (Cle - C,1B)
Brian Roberts (Bal - 2B)
Cole Hamels (Phi - SP)
Mariano Rivera (NYY - RP)

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Thu, Feb 12, 2009, 10:40

Where's the smack?! You guys are going down.

Great One
ID: 31112109
Thu, Feb 12, 2009, 15:48

Mark Prior is headed for a big year?

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Thu, Feb 12, 2009, 18:14

I thought it was Matt Cain. I did keep him so I guess it's open season.

By the way, I ran some numbers and my team is in 10th place right now. Ugh.

Great One
ID: 4510512113
Thu, Feb 12, 2009, 18:41

Year before was hyping of Prior, Cabrera. Cain last year, was an improvement!

barilko6
ID: 47191218
Thu, Feb 12, 2009, 19:09

Me and BH have a little side bet again this year. I said that Berkman has more than 8 stolen bases this year, and he says its less.

He gets to be Oopsy Daisy for a day again.

Weasel
ID: 161321219
Thu, Feb 12, 2009, 20:38

Too late to change a keeper? Not that it matters much for the last place team... but...

Ditch Pierre, and let me keep Bobby "I'm afraid of the wall" Abreu.

So final keepers:
Soriano
Youkoulis
B Phillips
A Ramirez
Morneau
Jeter
Abreu

holt
ID: 4410182818
Fri, Feb 13, 2009, 02:35

re. 55

and what if he loses?

barilko6
ID: 4415138
Fri, Feb 13, 2009, 09:05

I have to acknowledge that the Philadelphia Phillies are my second favorite team ever.

Actually I don't know...we never got that far. I was pretty confident on not losing at all....

BH, what if I lose?

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Fri, Feb 13, 2009, 10:02

Re: 54. In 2004 it was Oliver Perez, Jake Peavy, and Carlos Zambrano. In 2005 it was Scott Olsen. You win some you lose some.

Great One
ID: 31112109
Fri, Feb 13, 2009, 12:25

Yeah, I don't know about those cause I'm only going off Dirty Dozen talk, don't think that was Dirty Dozen.

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Fri, Feb 13, 2009, 17:26

For the record, I think I'm the only person who has ever hyped Mark Prior.

Da Bomb
ID: 371341117
Fri, Feb 13, 2009, 20:11

After our first season (2004) I traded Barry Zito and Mark Mulder to wiggs for Prior.

barilko6
ID: 219401818
Mon, Feb 16, 2009, 11:33

Question...are we allowing the changes in post 56? It is definitely ok with me, I just want to update my lists.

Perm Dude
ID: 1101610
Mon, Feb 16, 2009, 11:34

#55: And what if he gets exactly 8?

barilko6
ID: 219401818
Mon, Feb 16, 2009, 12:09

Then BH and I get to divide up everyone else's second round picks between us.

Weasel
ID: 521511617
Mon, Feb 16, 2009, 18:55

re: #63: I, for one, vote yes. LOL

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Tue, Feb 17, 2009, 10:18

I vote no. Seriously.

barilko6
ID: 37116178
Tue, Feb 17, 2009, 10:21

I guess if we do allow it, everyone should have a window of opportunity to make a change, to be fair.

Great One
ID: 31112109
Tue, Feb 17, 2009, 10:30

Yeah, you'd have to go no - unless there is a window to make a change now.

Perm Dude
ID: 111571622
Tue, Feb 17, 2009, 10:46

I vote "yes" (if we're voting that is), provided that the changes involved are of the same magnitude.

barilko6
ID: 37116178
Tue, Feb 17, 2009, 10:51

I think it would have to be no trades, but you can change a keeper. I am thinking I have a guy I might like to switch out if given the opportunity.

Of course we all had the same deadline to post...

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Tue, Feb 17, 2009, 11:10

Now wait a minute. Does this mean that if Lidge gets injured in the next couple weeks that I can make a substitution then? We have rules for a reason, and this is it.

Perm Dude
ID: 111571622
Tue, Feb 17, 2009, 11:14

It means if Lidge has a season or career-ending injury between the time we declare keepers and the time we start drafting, then you can swap him for another player on your roster.

barilko6
ID: 37116178
Tue, Feb 17, 2009, 11:24

I do agree with BH here. We set a deadline and we all live by it.

PD, would your caveat be based solely on injury replacement?

Perm Dude
ID: 111571622
Tue, Feb 17, 2009, 11:26

Absolutely. This would make it both rare and catastrophic.

Khahan
ID: 1065339
Tue, Feb 17, 2009, 12:13

Astade, still need you to register at kafenatid. Check your email for the details. If you tried and were locked out, I have deleted the extra team (I sent the dirty dozen sign up info to gurukeepers and some of them signed up here).

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Tue, Feb 17, 2009, 12:23

I absolutely disagree with post 75. Even if we call it the Mark Prior principle.

Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Tue, Feb 17, 2009, 12:30

I can see disagreeing with a catastrophic event if the draft already started. But the season is a month and a half away and kafenatid isn't even set up yet.

Weasel
ID: 23111714
Tue, Feb 17, 2009, 15:06

Didn't realize it was going to cause such a debate. I hadn't kept Abreu at the time I announced my keepers because he hadn't signed with anyone yet... figured I could make the change since the draft hasn't started yet and the season was still six weeks away, no biggie.

But if there's issues with it, that's cool- I'll just stick with Pierre instead.

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Tue, Feb 17, 2009, 15:10

Then why set a deadline? I kept Dunn even though there was a distinct chance he'd sign with Oakland.

Perm Dude
ID: 111571622
Tue, Feb 17, 2009, 15:46

Signing with a new team (or losing or gaining a starting job) is fundamentally different than an injury which ends a season or career.

Tree
ID: 1311551521
Tue, Feb 17, 2009, 16:05

personally, i'm fine with injury changes.

but otherwise, it seems to me that setting a deadline is useless if you can just make changes whenever you want.

barilko6
ID: 401531712
Tue, Feb 17, 2009, 16:29

Tree? Calling out deadlines? Seriously? hehehe

Khahan
ID: 1065339
Thu, Feb 19, 2009, 14:33

Astade,

Please get over to kafenatid and sign up asap for the draft. I've emailed you multiple times w/ the information. I'm using the email address from last year. If it has changed please let me know.

astade
ID: 191134222
Sat, Feb 21, 2009, 00:20

Greg,

Sorry about the delay. I have registered on Yahoo and Kafenatid. Thanks for your patience.

blue hen
ID: 8115717
Mon, Feb 23, 2009, 00:50

We're obviously in no hurry, but are we starting anytime soon?

And oh yeah - you guys are going down. I may as well already be in first place.

wiggs
Sustainer
ID: 04991311
Mon, Feb 23, 2009, 14:16

What did we decide with Lil Weasles Keepers, can he have abreu or keep pierre- just setting up my sheets.

Great One
ID: 31112109
Mon, Feb 23, 2009, 14:18

Hen, can we make a side wager as well? I'm always looking for some extra action.

wiggs
Sustainer
ID: 04991311
Mon, Feb 23, 2009, 14:30

Also if we are allowing changes to the keepers I would like to change Sheets who is out with injury- if I cant it is not a big deal

barilko6
ID: 318248
Tue, Feb 24, 2009, 14:05

Yeah...we need some Commish rough justice on this forum!!!!

I too would love to change out a keeper, but would tend to lean towards honoring the set deadline.

Khahan
ID: 1065339
Tue, Feb 24, 2009, 14:09

I will get back to you guys on the 'changing of the keepers' issues. Can't access my email from work.

wiggs
Sustainer
ID: 04991311
Tue, Feb 24, 2009, 14:14

I totally agree with a set deadline- but sometimes in other leagues, we were allowed to make changes if it was due to a season ending injury that took place after keepers were announced. If we cant its cool- this is just for fun anyways.

Weasel
ID: 8132417
Tue, Feb 24, 2009, 19:12

Khahan, I got a second notification that I'm "on the clock"-- is that one legit? Till I hear otherwise, I will continue to hold off.

** to settle the debate, I'm keeping Pierre. Abreu is available. **

Khahan
ID: 486552412
Wed, Feb 25, 2009, 08:47

I'm still in the process of entering keepers. Kafenatid does not differentiate this section from normal picks so you will continue to get notices. Do not pick until you get an email from me specifically saying the draft is open.

wiggs
ID: 0139914
Wed, Feb 25, 2009, 22:34

Khahan, just waiting on the official decision about switching out sheets. please let me know.

Khahan
ID: 486552412
Thu, Feb 26, 2009, 08:44

Based on a similar situation in another league (due only the circumstances around sheets), I have no problem with the switch.

however, this does not mean its a free-for-all. There is currently no other player listed as a keeper for anybody that I would consider this for so don't ask right now.

Great One
ID: 31112109
Thu, Feb 26, 2009, 08:56

I think a simple idea would just put in a private request to the commish and based on his discretion can make the switch. But that guy needs to be really hurt, not just day-to-day or whatever. And if say that player actually does play a game by (the all star break? June 1st?) you should lose a pick the next year, like a 3rd rounder.

Sheets would be the example this season.

wiggs
Sustainer
ID: 04991311
Thu, Feb 26, 2009, 09:12

Updated Keepers

Keeping

Garrett Atkins
Jason Bay
Curtis Granderson
Francisco Liriano
Edison Volquez
Derek Lee
John Lackey

Thank you for allowing the change.

Wiggs

100

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Thu, Feb 26, 2009, 10:30

I'm not sure I like this. Part of baseball strategy is drafting players who won't get hurt, because if they get hurt, it ruins your season. Sheets is projected to get 10-15 starts this season, according to what I'm looking at. That's hardly "season-ending" and it takes Edinson Volquez off the market, which I really don't like because I just traded a high pick for Billingsley.

101

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Thu, Feb 26, 2009, 10:35

Additionally, Wiggs isn't dropping Sheets due to injury; he's dropping him due to uncertainty. Sheets remains unsigned and a Type-A (draft pick-costing) free agent. He's in a terrible situation now, and an obvious non-keeper.

We had the deadline for a reason, and we were all subjected to it. I had no idea where Adam Dunn would wind up when I kept him.

At the very least, I feel we should put this to a league vote.

102

wiggs
Sustainer
ID: 04991311
Thu, Feb 26, 2009, 10:37

The announcement of his injury came after the keepers were declared- If you think about it keepers were due Feb 8 and the draft hasnt even started yet on the 26th. Why would we name keepers so early if we werent planning on starting the draft right away?

Like I said if this is a problem I wont do it.

103

wiggs
Sustainer
ID: 04991311
Thu, Feb 26, 2009, 10:39

Wrong BH- I am dropping him because he is having elbow surgery- and reports are saying he will at best get 10 starts this season.

Thanks for going into my head and telling people why i am doing things though.

104

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Thu, Feb 26, 2009, 10:43

For the record, I can see where Wiggs is coming from and I empathize with his situation. But I don't want any gray area here.

Khahan, do you know what day the draft is going to start? I am leaving tomorrow for four days and I want to know if I should bring my sheets. I remember last year we had started by this time, but the season is later this year.

105

Perm Dude
ID: 412259
Thu, Feb 26, 2009, 10:46

Let's try to move the declaration due date much closer to the draft date in the future. This won't solve the problem this year, but cutting off transactions too early isn't in our best interest.

106

wiggs
Sustainer
ID: 04991311
Thu, Feb 26, 2009, 10:50

true- i could totally see if the draft started the next day or something that changes couldn't be made and I wouldn't have even asked. And if this isnt allowed it wont be the end of the world, just be nice to stand a chance this season since I finish at the bottem end every season :)

107

Great One
ID: 31112109
Thu, Feb 26, 2009, 10:58

We did complete the draft on March 2nd last year, which seemed a bit early. I think this is a combination of using kafenatid + more keepers (less rounds) than previous years... so I'm wondering if we shouldn't move everything back anyway in the future. If it only takes 2-3 weeks to do the draft, why not shoot for it to finish say 10 days before the season starts. Which is even later this year (April 5th) because of the WBC.

Maybe keepers due end of Feb, start the draft the first monday in March. Wiggs and I would gladly help enter the keepers on Kafenatid (and/or) the Yahoo site post draft if there is any time constraint issues for Khahan. We are both familiar with both sites (as is NY Studs I believe). We are all glad to help cause we all know its a pain.

FYI - I spoke with Fred who mentioned he is revamping the Kafenatid OTC system and making lots of improvements, so expect it to be even better for next year.

108

Great One
ID: 31112109
Thu, Feb 26, 2009, 11:00

oh... so what I was also trying to say was that if we close the gap on keeper declaration and start of the draft, we could eliminate the injury concerns.

I support Wiggs switching out Sheets, cause its been nearly a month since declaration and they HOPING he'd be ready for August. Thats not good.

109

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Thu, Feb 26, 2009, 14:13

Incidentally, the early draft worked well for me last year. It finished March 2nd, and then I had plenty of time for my other drafts after that.

110

barilko6
ID: 331161121
Thu, Feb 26, 2009, 14:38

Just to add fun to this conversation, Sheets got news he would be out until August on February 5th. Our keepers were due Februaru 8th, three days after the news.

Sheets to Have Surgery

I am not against injury replacements, but a little work a couple of days before our deadline would have prevented this.

111

wiggs
ID: 0139914
Thu, Feb 26, 2009, 16:49

I posted my keepers on Feb 3.

112

barilko6
ID: 331161121
Thu, Feb 26, 2009, 17:06

Yeah, that was my point in post 110. You could have gone back and changed them any of the 3 days prior to our deadline.

Wiggs, please understand that this is absolutely nothing against you at all. We are in many leagues together and have made many trades together. And you are a Sanchez brother.

I am just stating that point in post 110, because we are about to be setting a big precedent here, and I think we have to be very clear on what we are going to allow and what we are not going to allow in the future.

113

barilko6
ID: 331161121
Thu, Feb 26, 2009, 17:09

And I totally agree with Wiggs' post 102. Why the need to post keepers 2-3 weeks before we even start the draft?

114

barilko6
ID: 331161121
Thu, Feb 26, 2009, 17:24

Also...for the record, I would vote in favor of changing out Sheets.

I just think we need to establish solid foundation for future years, as this can, and most likely will, arise again, and managers would use this as a previous case to support their own cause.

115

wiggs
ID: 0139914
Thu, Feb 26, 2009, 17:54

my thing was I knew I would be busy with other things that week- masters- health issues- glb-just to name a few, so once I posted them i didnt go back and look again.

116

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Thu, Feb 26, 2009, 18:08

What the hell is a Sanchez brother?

I don't think I am one, but I like wiggs too. We seem to end up on opposite sides of a lot of discussions, but I will defend his right to disagree every time.

117

Khahan
ID: 486552412
Thu, Feb 26, 2009, 20:56

I appreciate all the input and I do store away the info and suggestions for future use and future situations. However, this league has never really been democratic in nature. Commish decision has been made.

Incidentally, just to show 2 examples of situations where I would have given a different ruling:

1. Chase Utley - when we declared keepers it was widely known he was injured, had surgery and had an uncertain return date. I the chase utley owner HAS NOT reached out and asked me to change. Simply using him as an example

2. Manny Ramirez - like many FA was unsigned when we declared keepers. However, I knew he had 1 suitor and was rejecting multiple types of offers from them. I still chose to keep him.

This was not a random decision. The reasoning behind allowing it was mine. There is no transparency, either. I hope thru almost 6 years of commishing well over 7 different leagues thru rotoguru people realize that I make decisions based on what I feel is right. Whether you agree or disagree philosophically w/ my decision you should understand I have my own reasoning for it.

As for the start date, we were unable to start because of delays in signing up people up on kafenatid. Hence me insisting on keepers early to persuade people to get active and get signed up. I've learned from experience that its never a quick process and I set deadlines accordingly.

118

astade
ID: 191134222
Thu, Feb 26, 2009, 21:09

I am the one to blame for us not drafting earlier. I signed up really late. Sorry guys. I have a feeling that Khahan (w/ his lessons learned as a commish) knew there were going to be stragglers and set the date for declaring keepers accordingly.

119

blue hen
ID: 8115717
Thu, Feb 26, 2009, 23:08

Utley and Manny are keeper worthy with the uncertainty. Sheets is not.

Either way, I accept the decision, even though I disagree with it.

For what it's worth, Volquez was #1 on my queue.

120

Tree
ID: 61411921
Fri, Feb 27, 2009, 00:27

i think it's a tough call.

i think EVERY league should have some sort of emergency rule where if there's a serious injury, you can change your keepers pre-draft.

it's tough when it's not established ahead of time, but i also always felt it was a common courtesy.

121

holt
ID: 4410182818
Sat, Feb 28, 2009, 21:44

I don't have a prob with people switching keepers before a draft starts in the case of a serious injury.

do we have a draft date yet? ribc draft starts on the 15th or so and I'd really prefer to avoid having to check in on 2 slow drafts simultaneously, if possible.

122

Khahan
ID: 486552412
Sun, Mar 01, 2009, 13:39

Our draft will officially begin on Wednesday, March 4 at 8am EST The clock will run from 8am to 11pm EST with a 4 hour pick window

123

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Sun, Mar 01, 2009, 15:11

At which site is the league? I have presumed that the league is on Yahoo, but it just as easily could be somewhere else. I have previously only played on Yahoo , but the other 2009 leagues that I am in, RIBC AA Southern and the new Auction League are both on ESPN. Thanks.

124

barilko6
ID: 331161121
Sun, Mar 01, 2009, 16:00

Let's Rock!

Can't wait to get this thing rolling, here's to hoping I can continue to build a great squad to win next year's championship!

125

Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Sun, Mar 01, 2009, 16:25

Khahan - can't tell if you inputted this, but I have Perm Dude's 8th rounder and he has my 10th due to the trade in post 418 here.

126

barilko6
ID: 331161121
Sun, Mar 01, 2009, 16:36

Since I was involved in most of them, I went over all the trades and found ones with picks involved. Not sure if all of them were noted, but I am guessing Khahan caught them all!

Wiggs gets: Barilko's 5th Round Pick
Barilko Gets: Wiggs' 2nd Round Pick

Khahan gets: Barilko's 10th Round Pick
Barilko gets: Khahan's 3rd Round Pick

Blue Hen gets: Barilko's 8th Round Pick
Barilko gets: Blue Hen's 3rd Round Pick

DaBomb gets: Perm Dude's 8th Round Pick
Perm Dude gets: DaBomb's 10th Round Pick

127

Great One
ID: 291372517
Sun, Mar 01, 2009, 17:41

Loki, we are on Yahoo.

128

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Sun, Mar 01, 2009, 17:56

Thanks. I need the league ID and password.

129

Great One
ID: 291372517
Sun, Mar 01, 2009, 18:44

Sent...

130

Khahan
ID: 486552412
Sun, Mar 01, 2009, 18:53

Da bomb's trade from post 125 added Thanks. Used barilko's post 126 to double check and appear to have them all.

131

nerveclinic
Leader
ID: 05047110
Mon, Mar 02, 2009, 07:22

Hey Tree and PD and Wiggs and Khahan...

how many fricken leagues are you in anyway?

132

wiggs
Sustainer
ID: 04991311
Mon, Mar 02, 2009, 08:17

I am in 5 this season-

Cut back from about 8.

133

Khahan
ID: 486552412
Mon, Mar 02, 2009, 08:58

Well, keeper leagues I'm in are 3 (and wiggs is in all 3 of them w/ me). Then I have ribc and 2 regular recurring leagues from work.

Then there is whatever I pick up at the beginning of each season when I tell myself that my baseball workload is full and I won't take anymore. At my worst, I was in 16 leagues (about 3 years ago).

134

Tree
ID: 61411921
Mon, Mar 02, 2009, 11:58

NC - i'm actually down to 4. a few years ago i was in 8...then 6...last year 5...

this year...4...

135

Perm Dude
ID: 41221215
Mon, Mar 02, 2009, 17:14

I'm down to 3. Used to be about 12 or so (including various TSN games like 500K league, etc)

136

Weasel
ID: 48254217
Mon, Mar 02, 2009, 18:55

Alright fellas, the draft is underway! Sorry for the delay today.

137

wiggs
ID: 0139914
Mon, Mar 02, 2009, 22:40

Wiggs and GO agreed to a trade-

GO gets pick 8.02 Alexei Ramirez and pick 11.02

Wiggs gets
8.10 and 9.10

138

Great One
ID: 291372517
Mon, Mar 02, 2009, 22:47

Confirmed.

139

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Tue, Mar 03, 2009, 18:54

Interesting. I guess GO really likes Alexei. So far, there hasn't been any reason not to.

I got my #1 choice, and that's Chris Davis. I have faith that he'll take away PT at 3B from Michael Young, and be eligible for the foreseeable future. Even if not, I'm still happy.

Soria and Oswalt were two guys I had my eye on. I hope you guys stop doing that - it's annoying.

140

Tree
ID: 61411921
Tue, Mar 03, 2009, 19:31

BH - you got MY number one guy as well, and that was Davis. Soria was a clear #2 for me, but i was sure Davis would make it to me. bah.

141

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Wed, Mar 04, 2009, 00:01

BH-Davis was going to be my 1st pick also.

142

Great One
ID: 46215212
Wed, Mar 04, 2009, 12:45

BH - try not to end up with 7 1B's again lol... isn't that what you had for most of last season? Funny how it worked out like that.

Yeah needed to get Alexei due to my SS situation after parting with Rollins.

Kinsler is going to be available as well -- looking for a 3B for him, but can do that in-season.

143

barilko6
ID: 1525937
Wed, Mar 04, 2009, 12:54

I have 5 of the next 20 picks, and would be open to putting some of them into a package for an already drafted player or if someone wants to move up some.

144

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Wed, Mar 04, 2009, 13:00

GO - not sure if you were aware, but Davis played 31 games at third base last year. In this league, that means I can put him in my third base slot.

Hehe.

145

barilko6
ID: 1525937
Wed, Mar 04, 2009, 13:14

Is that a Chris Davis for Ian Kinsler deal I see there?

146

Great One
ID: 46215212
Wed, Mar 04, 2009, 14:06

Oh boy... I can't deal with the devil though, can I?! :)
Not sure how much I personally like Davis though, the very high K rate concerns me and he doesn't walk as much as I'd like, but this is an AVG league so that matters less of course. Certainly worth consideration though.

147

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Wed, Mar 04, 2009, 15:07

Are we starting the clock today?

148

barilko6
ID: 1525937
Wed, Mar 04, 2009, 15:16

Yeah, I thought there was a post saying today at 8:00 AM the clock would start.

149

Khahan
ID: 391582715
Wed, Mar 04, 2009, 15:43

Sorry guys, I kept thinking it was tuesday. the snow day threw me off. The clock is started with a 4 hour window as of now. I'm emailing JD to let him know.

150

blue hen
ID: 8115717
Wed, Mar 04, 2009, 23:39

Sorry guys, it looks like the season is over and I won. On what date am I allowed to list Justin Upton as a 2010 keeper?

151

Tree
ID: 61411921
Thu, Mar 05, 2009, 07:37

the same date you can keep Mark Prior as a 2010 keeper.

although, to give you credit, your dartboard philosophy should probably work. sooner or later, you'll chuck enough out there, that one might actually be close to a bullseye... ;o)

152

barilko6
ID: 331161121
Thu, Mar 05, 2009, 11:50

I entered all of our teams (to this point) into a projection program and it shows my team as being in the top 3. I am pretty stoked about this.

And although this program is primarily confined to the left side of my brain, I am wholeheartedly endorsing it as almost fact.

I think Lance Berkman posting a .320 with 35 HRs 110 RBI's and 12 SB would be considered aiming low for The Big Puma.

Jay Bruce and Tulo will cement their status within the elite at their positions, and David Price will become what I like to call the Anti-Foppert of MLB.

Alex Rios, while greatly benefiting from life in Canada and all that this country has to offer, will post a career year trying to impress his Dirty Dozen owner who will be watching 20+ of his home games live this year.

Ryan Braun, having effectively swiped the title of "The Hebrew Hammer" from former teammate Gabe Kapler, will put up such amazing numbers that I can't help but to think about converting.

Joe Mauer has a Blue Hen connection, and with him flirting with .400 in April, it will be lights out for every other team trying to contend for the top average in the catcher position.

And by keeping Papelbon and K-Rod, The Barilko Killer B's have made a statement that Ryan Braun might not be the only one leading the team in saves this year.

Book it. Top 3 here I come.

153

Tree
ID: 61411921
Thu, Mar 05, 2009, 12:05

so, post all the projections...

154

barilko6
ID: 331161121
Thu, Mar 05, 2009, 12:12

I can't right now. After the draft.

If I post them right now, it would give much needed direction to misguided managers.

155

Great One
ID: 46215212
Thu, Mar 05, 2009, 12:19

Hen - I like the Billingsley to Broxton duo... I've got that going in Lucky 13.

156

Great One
ID: 46215212
Thu, Mar 05, 2009, 12:20

You mean that fact that I have three 2B's might show I have no clue what I'm doing?! :)

157

Khahan
ID: 391582715
Thu, Mar 05, 2009, 12:43

And you don't think those projections are at all skewed by stats like, oh I don't know, the saves category where not all managers even have a player yet?

So you managed to get into the top 3 as you get points for saves (probably all 12 w/ your keeper picks). Top 3 over other teams that don't even have a presence in every category yet. Way to go barilko. :) I think you have the makings of the sequal to "Ringers"

158

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Thu, Mar 05, 2009, 12:45

I think he meant misguided in life, not just in fantasy baseball. You had all the names in the world to choose from and you chose "Great One." Sheesh. It would have been better as "The Brahma Bull."

I have some projections too - Barilko is actually first, followed by Holt, Tree, and Weasel. The bottom four? Great One, Blue Hen, Perm Dude, and Wiggs.

But at least my team is young and should improve in the future.

159

Great One
ID: 46215212
Thu, Mar 05, 2009, 12:56

It doesn't matter what your name is!

160

Great One
ID: 46215212
Thu, Mar 05, 2009, 12:58

I never EVER show up high on those projection things... but I always show up high in the final standings! :)

161

barilko6
ID: 331161121
Thu, Mar 05, 2009, 13:13

Hey...I have to celebrate now, while I have a semi-legitimat---but not really valid---claim to a top spot in this league!!!

I have 3 of the next 9 picks, and I plan to reach like crazy, so it can only go down from here!!!

162

barilko6
ID: 1525937
Thu, Mar 05, 2009, 18:02

Big run on closers this round. Get them while you can!

163

Tree
ID: 61411921
Thu, Mar 05, 2009, 22:39

anyone interested, i'm looking to move an OF for a quality 1B...

164

holt
ID: 4410182818
Fri, Mar 06, 2009, 01:20

quality 1b? good luck.

165

Tree
ID: 61411921
Fri, Mar 06, 2009, 07:11

LOL....

yea...

166

holt
ID: 1255622
Sat, Mar 07, 2009, 00:01

no idea how many rounds Carpenter may have dropped. I think this is a good pick, but if he would have dropped a few rounds then it's a bad pick, but I just have no idea. I felt like it was too early, but I asked myself how I would have felt if I took an OF and then watched Carp go off the board - the answer was "pretty bad". I pulled the trigger in case anyone else was monitoring him closely.

167

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Sat, Mar 07, 2009, 09:40

This is the 1st keeper league for me, and the 1st time for any league other than an RIBC qualifier, that is other than a league with 16 teams. As the draft is unfolding, I already see mistakes in strategy. I do like my trade with GO, and hopefully Howards's BA won't hurt too much, but in retrospect trading Pedroia for draft picks might have been a better choice. If Rollin's can repeat 2007 and the 2nd half of 2008 trading Pedroia will have been be worth it.

168

blue hen
ID: 351241510
Sat, Mar 07, 2009, 12:51

[166] While Carpenter wasn't on my short list, we know that he's quite effective when healthy.

169

wiggs
ID: 0139914
Sat, Mar 07, 2009, 22:28

I played in a 2 day holdem tournament today and survived day 1- I will be playing tomorrow all afternoon (hopefully). I left a small queue to get me through my next pick, but if it gets to me a second time I will pick when I get home. Just wanted to give everyone a heads up.
thanks

170

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 11:25

How'd it go, Wiggs?

I'm pretty happy with my draft here. Obviously, I'm much stronger in pitching than hitting, but there are more good hitters left than pitchers.

171

barilko6
ID: 331161121
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 11:25

Trade

GO trades 13.10 and 19.10

to

Barilko for 14.8 and 16.8

172

Great One
ID: 46215212
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 11:28

Alright, I guess I confirm it.

Seriously guys, Barilko didn't even ask me, he just posted it here and hoped that I would agree! :)

173

barilko6
ID: 331161121
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 11:29

dang, I should have included Kinlser then too...

174

wiggs
Sustainer
ID: 04991311
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 11:44

I finished 8th overall- busted out with pocket aces against pocket 4s. He rivered a straight. I won 1150 dollars. Unfortunately they tax that 28 percent. I brought home alittle over 800. It was a 75 dollar buy in and because I made the final table I got a free room at the hotel so that was cool as well. Thanks for asking.

175

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 11:49

Trade

GO trades Johan Santana and Prince Fielder

to

BH for 18.05

176

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 11:49

(Just kidding)

177

Great One
ID: 46215212
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 11:56

That sounds fun Wiggs, I'm just learning how to play poker, so maybe one day I can get to that level.

I was considering it BH, but I'm gonna have to pass for now.

178

wiggs
Sustainer
ID: 04991311
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 12:00

Its not all about being that good- Some times you just get lucky.

179

Great One
ID: 46215212
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 12:09

It's all I can do just to memorize which hand is better lol...

180

Khahan
ID: 391582715
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 12:48

Post 171...unless I miscalculated entering another trade before, Barilko no longer holds pick 16.8 to trade to GO.

181

barilko6
ID: 331161121
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 12:55

Ah my bad. Blue Hen does have my 16th round pick. I thought he had my 15th rounder.

GO...I sent you an email

182

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 12:57

I believe I own 15.8 and Khahan owns 17.8, but I could be mistaken.

183

barilko6
ID: 331161121
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 12:59

No, You own my 16th BH. I typed in wrong in this thread, but its right in the Keeper thread

184

barilko6
ID: 331161121
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 12:59

Sorry for messing things up guys, still waiting to hear back from GO about working this straight.

185

barilko6
ID: 331161121
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 13:01

New trade:

Barilko Trades Round 14.08 and 15.08

for

GO trades Your 13.10 and 17.10?

186

Khahan
ID: 391582715
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 13:07

I am letting things go as is until GO confirms this trade.

187

Great One
ID: 46215212
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 13:22

Agreed on updated deal.

188

barilko6
ID: 331161121
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 13:23

Once again, sorry for all the mass confusion.

189

Great One
ID: 46215212
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 14:27

Picked Harang for Barilko to keep it moving...

190

barilko6
ID: 331161121
Mon, Mar 09, 2009, 14:34

Confirmed

191

barilko6
ID: 331161121
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 07:27

Hey, if anyone that is coming up in the next few picks would be interested in moving down, I am offering GO's 17th round pick and my own 18th round pick for your next pick and your last pick, provided the guy I want is still on the board.

Send me an email before you select, I will be by my computer most of the day.

192

barilko6
ID: 1525937
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 09:11

Offer still being extended...

193

barilko6
ID: 1525937
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 10:02

TRADE

Just to mess up Khahan even more:

GO trades picks 14.8 (Barilko's original 14th round pick) and 23.10

Barilko trades picks 17.10 (GO's original 17th round pick) and 18.8

194

Great One
ID: 46215212
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 10:21

Confirmed.

195

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 10:34

Taveras moves Perm Dude up to 6th in my projections. PD, this is one of your better drafts, if you ask me.

196

barilko6
ID: 1525937
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 10:53

Trade somewhat backfired on me. I was really hoping Scherzer would drop 2 more spots. Morrow was the backup plan, and I am still happy to get him. But Max was plan A and 1A.

197

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 10:57

Barilko's up but the trade hasn't gone through. Jeff, can you pick Morrow for him?

198

Perm Dude
ID: 31245917
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 11:08

#195: Thanks. I'm only worried that Cincinnati will back off from letting Tavaras lead off. A couple of years ago I was all excited about Norris Hopper (remember him?) in the same position, so I'm a little worried. But I think it was a good point in the draft to roll the dice on him.

199

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 11:13

Taveras is interesting. He's a terrible hitter, but we value him in fantasy because he steals bases. But he's actually a decent player (in real life) because of his defense. He's the answer to the argument on both sides: Fantasy is fake because it overvalues steals and fantasy is fake because it undervalues defense.

In the end, Taveras is neither overrated nor underrated; he's just rated.

200

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 11:47

Tree said he's going to need a couple hours to pick; he wasn't expecting to be up this soon and is not ready.

201

Tree
ID: 61411921
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 14:49

sorry for the delay folks...

202

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Tue, Mar 10, 2009, 22:49

Queue left for 15.06.

203

blue hen
ID: 8115717
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 01:27

Dear Da Bomb,

Please stop taking my guys.

Sincerely,
Blue Hen

204

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 14:19

Dear Da Bomb,

Please stop taking my guys still.

Sincerely,
Blue Hen

205

barilko6
ID: 1525937
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 16:00

Its fun just sitting back and watch all of you guys take crappy players while I wait for my queued guys to be available for my next pick in Round 19.

What a long wait...From Round 14 to Round 19....

206

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 16:30

Barilko, I'm not sure you are allowed to take the guys you're looking at. I mean, Stieb has been retired for 12 or 13 years.

207

barilko6
ID: 1525937
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 16:57

BH....please edit your post. We have a rule against naming undrafted players.

Damn.

208

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 19:05

Queue left for 16.06.

209

wiggs
ID: 0139914
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 20:23

I apologize to all for the delay- real life interfered expectantly.

210

blue hen
ID: 8115717
Wed, Mar 11, 2009, 22:17

Barilko, I thought about saying [undrafted] but that wouldn't have been as funny. Lilly was the guy I wanted (nice pick Perm Dude), so it took me a while to pick. I picked from loki's queue and now when astade picks I'll be up again.

211

Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 01:23

Haha sorry blue hen. For what it's worth if you have your eyes on any remaining closers I think I might be done with that position now.

212

Great One
ID: 46215212
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 08:47

Da Bomb, I'd be worried if I were you - wanting the same players as BH isn't neccessarily a good thing! :)

213

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 11:59

PLEASE STOP THE DRAFT

My queue was only for 16.06. I may want Putz, but I got to my office late today and cannot pick until lunch break between 1PM and 2PM EDT. I know that I did not make my queue unavailable. Thanks.

214

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 13:54

If possible I would like to have Dan Wheeler for 17.06.

215

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 14:21

That was my fault. I saw the post for 16.06 and didn't pay attention.

216

barilko6
ID: 43255124
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 14:44

What? This draft is still going on?

218

Tree
ID: 61411921
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 15:21

stepping out for a few. left a queue, for one round only...

219

astade
ID: 121592010
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 15:33

nice one, blue hen...

220

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 17:25

And there we are. I have finally moved up a bit in my own rankings.

221

holt
ID: 4410182818
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 18:36

sorry guys - just got home - picking shortly

222

barilko6
ID: 43255124
Thu, Mar 12, 2009, 22:56

Slow end to the day. According to my record keeping, that is the third time that Little Weasel has timed out already in this draft.

223

blue hen
ID: 8115717
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 00:47

I've got maybe 20 minutes more in me. After that, we'll have to wait till morning.

224

blue hen
ID: 5826123
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 01:59

My pick in the 18th round is Oliver Perez. However, he is not in the kafenatid database apparently, so I am taking Chris Perez as a placeholder. I will email KKB in the morning (or someone else do it) to add Perez, then we can make the switch.

If anyone has issue with this, or if I'm just a dumbass and Perez is already taken, I'll just keep Chris Perez. If someone wants the real Chris Perez, post here and we'll work it out.

Sorry for the trouble, it's late and my blackberry sucks.

225

Weasel
ID: 55157247
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 08:07

Sorry about last night fellas.

re: 222- first time. Still no excuse though, my bad.

226

barilko6
ID: 43255124
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 08:38

re: 225 Yeah, my bad, the other two times that you went over were on weekends.

227

barilko6
ID: 1525937
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 09:46

We are slowly getting closer to my first pick in 4 rounds! It is brutal not having a pick for such a long time!

Blue Hen just sent me an email telling me that he gives up. He said there is no possible way to compete with me this year and that we might as well just call this year, "The Race for Second Place".

228

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 12:48

KKB updated the database. We're all set.

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blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 16:08

I am here and picking in a few minutes.

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blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 17:24

What did we decide about [213]? Is Putz still available? Is Wheeler?

231

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 18:08

Still waiting for Khahan to make the change so that Putz will be available.

232

holt
ID: 24242716
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 18:45

chris p. was kind of an odd placeholder to use. he was one of only 3 or 4 guys i had in my queue. dunno if i would have taken him over Choo or not. i just figured he wasnt available. not that big a deal, just odd considering that he's a strong closer candidate.

233

Khahan
ID: 486552412
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 19:01

Hey all. I must have misread the posts above when putz was stated as wanted for 16.6 and the he talked about wanting somebody for 17.6. I have made the switch and putz is back on the board. I would have done this earlier, I was just thrown off by the numbered rounds.

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blue hen
ID: 8115717
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 19:54

Holt, you have a point. I hope this doesn't throw you off much. I used Perez for two reasons:

1. He's named Perez, so it would be more obvious what I had done.

2. If something went wrong and Olly was previously taken, or someone invoked the "must be on kafenatid" clause or whatever, I'd be stuck with Chris Perez, who wasn't the worst choice in the world at that point.

It's all good now - thanks for understanding.

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blue hen
ID: 8115717
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 21:58

Nice one Holt. Sanchez was a guy I've been eying for a while (and just traded for in G20). May he have a successful season.

236

holt
ID: 512171321
Fri, Mar 13, 2009, 23:25

Thanks. He wasn't really on my radar but I kept looking at the players on my short list and couldn't convince myself I needed any of them this round - so I went on a search for sleeper material. I just hope that if he does pitch well this season that it happens before I cut him. It's hard to have a lot of patience with guys like him (the Oliver Perez type). He definitely has a lot of K's in his future anyway.

237

Perm Dude
ID: 1520138
Sat, Mar 14, 2009, 09:13

I'll be out for about 3 hours. If my turn comes up, please take the player in my queue if he is a pitcher.

238

holt
ID: 24242716
Sat, Mar 14, 2009, 21:02

kind of funny, i'm waiting for dabomb to pick in both this league and ribc. not that i care. i still don't who i'm taking in either.

239

Da Bomb
ID: 272581420
Sat, Mar 14, 2009, 23:11

Sorry for the delay. I was on the road all day and had connection
uses with an iphone but I was able to stick in a queue but couldn't
make anyone a DP due to the lack of connection (though I think
khahan would still be one).

240

holt
ID: 222101423
Sun, Mar 15, 2009, 01:11

no sweat. I haven't been checking in much.

241

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Sun, Mar 15, 2009, 11:27

Queue for 21.07

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Great One
ID: 46215212
Mon, Mar 16, 2009, 14:12

Everyone que up 10 names and lets finish this tonight! GO :)

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blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Mon, Mar 16, 2009, 14:58

Good luck with that. Believe it or not, this is going faster than my RIBC draft (just ask Khahan - he's right after the two slowest).

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Great One
ID: 46215212
Mon, Mar 16, 2009, 15:23

Well my draft is done - and most importantly I have assembled a squad that will comfortably beat Blue Hen and Barilko, and really thats all I need! That and my 7 guys who play 2B haha...

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blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Mon, Mar 16, 2009, 19:14

I set a queue and DPs, so I am done as well. I won't even check in.

246

Weasel
ID: 242351617
Mon, Mar 16, 2009, 19:37

Last round- Holt's time has passed, but I'll let it ride a bit and see if he gets on...

248

Weasel
ID: 242351617
Mon, Mar 16, 2009, 21:42

Solid draft fellas- looking forward to moving up in the standings this season... about eleven spots' worth!

249

Khahan
ID: 486552412
Tue, Mar 17, 2009, 08:11

god blue hen, the RIBC draft is KILLING me.

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blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Tue, Mar 17, 2009, 10:16

I hear ya. It drags and then all the good players are gone. Pretty happy with my last two picks, of course.

251

Da Bomb
ID: 442251711
Tue, Mar 17, 2009, 13:41

Having some problems accessing kafenatid. Please select Dana Eveland for me.

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blue hen
ID: 8115717
Wed, Mar 18, 2009, 00:53

Way to finish, girls. My projections actually have me tied for second, but obviously I will beat that.

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blue hen
ID: 8115717
Wed, Mar 18, 2009, 23:25

So what's the plan for entering the draft? When will waivers open so I can drop Albert's ass?

254

barilko6
ID: 54251196
Thu, Mar 19, 2009, 08:52

Hey guys....good draft. Will bring smack and team thoughts when I get back from Spring Training.

255

barilko6
ID: 522592020
Sat, Mar 21, 2009, 08:45

I have just enough time to pop in here and say how good my team looks. I mean, sure there is 1 or 2 guys who can be replaced via waiver claims, but this is a team that will be placed high.

All in all, I guess I just want to say good job to myself for a draft well done.

On a side note, yesterday I was at the Jays/Rays game and had front row seats. Morgan Ensberg was walking by, and I commented, "Yeah, he is a long shot to make the team." He turned towards me, smiled, and then flipped up his shades and said, "I can't hear you, I have my sunglasses on."

So...for all of you that are going to try and make fun of my supersquad, be forewarned that it is sunny here in Florida and I plan to be wearing shades all day.

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blue hen
ID: 8115717
Sat, Mar 21, 2009, 16:19

It's sunny here in New York as well. Morgan Ensberg is a superstar; he just needs playing time.

257

Khahan
ID: 486552412
Sat, Mar 21, 2009, 19:57

Hey Barilko, great draft. I'm sure you'll get a 12 in saves.

As for the league, we are almost fully loaded. I am actually waiting for 2 picks to be sent in to me (somehow, kafenatid actually ended early). Every player but these last 2 are loaded. Once I get them, I'll start the season.

258

barilko6
ID: 2829226
Sun, Mar 22, 2009, 08:10

Yeah, Morgan has potential, I just don't think TBay is the best place for him.

He would be better off in Milwaukee or even in NY as a fill in for A-Rod.

259

blue hen
ID: 8115717
Sun, Mar 22, 2009, 23:07

He was in NY until recently. Lame. Honestly, I'd like to see him split time in Philly with Feliz, even though they both bat right. Career .830 OPS, with two career seasons over .900. I haven't seen him linked with steroids, but how in the world did he fall so far, so fast.

260

barilko6
ID: 1220247
Tue, Mar 24, 2009, 10:47

Alright, back from the sunny south, unfortunately, and here I am to post my recap and predictions!!!

My team needs three things really bad: Avg. SB and a solid 3b. If you have any to offer, please send me an email!!!

I have a ton of question marks at SP, and I just hope that a good percentage of them come through for me. Otherwise, there are always gems to be found on the WW.

Starting only 3 OF and 1 Util is always a tough thing in this league, it leaves tons of hitters on the WW, and a lot of good players on benches, which allowed me to take a chance on some younger guys like Salty and Andrus, knowing that I can always throw them back and get some solid veterans off the WW.

Anyways, here are some thoughts on other teams. Don't get all pissy and crybaby if I don't love your team, just remember, all of these analysis are coming from a lowly 5th place finisher from last year. (Although, let it be noted, my first year I placed 9th, then 7th my second year, and finally 5th last year. I smell a third place finish this year!)

Khahan's team looks strong. A lot of solid hitters combined with 2 stud SP make a great core. He will need to add pitching from the WW to pick up points, but we all know there are pitchers to be found as the season progresses.

Perm Dude has some serious power from last year, but many of those guys had career years. Can they match it again this year? If so, PD will have some nice numbers. Also has one of the favourite sleepers out there in AAAA star Nelson Cruz. Can he do it full time in the Big Leagues??? PD's pitching is filthy. Halladay, CC, Joba, Nolasco....all nice guys. No solid closers here though, so he too will be looking for saves on the ww.

Wiggs as usual has a strong draft. Guys like Bay, Granderson, Atkins, Abreu, Wells and D Lee (if both stay healthy), will give Wiggs a solid core of hitting machines! 3 nice closers, provided Marmol keeps the gig, which isn't etched in stone, and a couple young fireballers at SP make for a great young foundation to build on. My only fear with this squad is that Wiggs will limit himself to his usual 4 or 5 WW pick ups all year and will find his team dropping once again because of that.

Great One decided at the start of the year to try and pull a reverse Barilko. Instead of trying to hoard closers though, GO decided to try and corner the market on all of the good 2b men. Seriously, Kinsler, Pedroia, Ramirez?, even Kendrick has some nice late value. I am very surprised he didn't send out offers for Brandon Phillips and Brian Roberts. Or maybe he did?
I can't believe how far Ibanez fell. That guy will post stats way above the position he went at. The starting pitching is nice with Johan, the Boston Buddies, and a couple wild cards in Verlander and Young. No big closers here, but GO hits the waiver wire harder than most, so he will get some stats there.

Da Bomb always gets to work with his nice set of keepers, A-Rod, Reyes, Vladdy, Ortiz, Webb...some have age creeping up though, so hopefully this will be the year we can start catching up to Da Bomb! Most drafts Da Bomb focuses on veterans, leaving the sleepers and prospects to others, but this year he took guys like Votto and Wieters, which will add some nice youth to his potential keeper list! Always gets cheap saves, and always waits to take these closers. Maybe I should watch and learn with that strategy!!!

Loki the newcomer has some nice keepers in Sizemore, Utley, Howard, Martin, Ellsbury and Rollins. Adding in guys like Magglio, Ethier, Baker, and Scherzer will give his team some nice stats across the board. Nabbed popular sleepers with Felipe Lopez and Jason Motte, and added a contract year Adrian Beltre, this team looks like it has some horses to pull it to the top part of the standings!

The Champ, Holt, might have a tough time repeating with the solid competition that is in the DD. He still has Wright, Holliday, who I think everyone is undervaluing too much, Lincecum, Ichiro, who I think I traded to him 2 years ago, and Brian McCann. He also nabbed some trendy sleepers in Chris Carpenter, Achoo, and Kevin Gregg. Holt will fight for a top spot, and should be in the top half of the standings, but I don't think he can repeat. Or can he?

Little Weasel has power throughout his lineup. Guys like Soriano, Youk, Morneau, Phillips, Aramis, and then secondary players like Mora, Dye, and Nady will provide nice hitting stats, while I like Jeter and Hernandez to have bounce back years. Pitching is the Weasel's weakness though, especially if AJ, BJ, and Ervin hit the DL, which based on spring training and/or past performances, is very likely. But, we all know there are pitchers to be had on the WW, so I predict the Weasel will be moving up from his finish last year! (Is there any other way to go?)

Astade: Has top tier guys in Hanley, Kemp, Teixeira, and Miggy. All are in their prime and are fairly young yet as well. (Although Cabrera could get old real quick with his conditioning). If his pitching can pitch to their reputations, Zambrano, Peavy, Oswalt, and Shields, can all be top guys. Add to that Lester, Lowe, and Smoltz, and it looks like Astade has pitching to trade. Some potential closers in the mix as well, but not one with a solid grasp on a closing job. Still, a very nice team here.

Blue Hen: He has Albert Pujols. He is pretty good. Crawford should have a great bounce back year, and will be a top pick in most drafts next year after sliding a bit for this year. Dunn is what we thought he is...40/100, although those numbers could fall with Washington. Too bad its not OBP for Dunn. Maybin and Upton are up and coming stars, maybe not quite yet this year, but in future years, which will allow Hen to replace his aging keeper list. Chris Davis is a hot sleeper, probably one of the hottest out there. I think the hype is too much. He will be good this year, but maybe not as good as what people are projecting. .275, 28, 98 RBIs is what I see. Hen followed his usual pitching strategy by grabbing Ollie Perez. Did anyone ever doubt that? I mean we should just have awarded him Perez at the start of the draft so Hen could concentrate more. Middle of the pack here...only because I think Hen always hits the WW hard.

Tree: Some great bats in Hamilton (Can he repeat, I think he can), Markakis, B Roberts, and Beltran. I think Beltran breaks down this year and misses a good chunk of games. Call it a hunch. V-Mart bounces back slightly, but nowhere near his allstar numbers from years past. Somewhere in the middle. Hamels hopefully will be healthy, Rivera is a constant, Soria was great last year, but can the Royals be good enough to help him repeat his stats in 09? I think pitching is needed, but Tree is one of the top WW vultures as well, so there is light here.

Top Teams in 2009:

Barilko's Honkballers. (come on, I have to pick my own team) A major sleeper, takes all jokes and criticism, but will work the wire hard, and place in the top 4. A major plus is that he will have the market cornered on all Canadian news. (Yesterday a canoe capsized in a lake near my cottage. You can't pay for info that good.)

Khahan: A solid group of hitters, and should he find some closers throughout the year, he will be in the top 4.

Da Bomb: Its easy to place this team in the top 4, as it usually is there. Unless Ortiz and Vladdy start playing like old geezers, there is enough talent here to finish high.

Astade: I really like this team this year, and look for a strong showing in 09. So much pitching, some of these guys have to hit their potential, which means the others don't. It kind of evens out that way. See you in the top 4.

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Great One
ID: 46215212
Tue, Mar 24, 2009, 11:22

Strangely enough, I was working on a deal with Tree that involved Brian Roberts lol... but then I realized the situation would be even more insane. That was before picking up Kendrick.

Don't forget though that Alexei is 2B/SS/OF and will be holding down SS for me. So its only Kinsler/Pedroia/Kendrick that are a problem. Kinsler I plan to trade at some point, targeting a 3B for him cause I want Micheal Young as my backup 3B/SS option not as a starter. Also gonna have a sweet flex guy in Guillen who I expect to bounce back at 1B/3B/OF.

And yeah, I've been clammering for an IF position to be added in this league forever. Those in Lucky 13 know how useful it is, it really opens up the trading and flexibility of teams. There is too much on the waiver wire, and one more starting spot would take care of that.

My team never gets projected high by anyone, in any league... but its all good! Just like sports growing up - I was always the last guy on the bench to start the season, and an All-Star representative by seasons end!

262

Tree
ID: 61411921
Tue, Mar 24, 2009, 11:41

Barilko - i'm definitely interested in seeing if we can do a deal, but it's tough for me to see who has what until it's up on yahoo...

263

Barilko6
ID: 16251249
Tue, Mar 24, 2009, 11:51

Tree...its up. Just check Wednesday to see your roster.

264

wiggs
Sustainer
ID: 04991311
Tue, Mar 24, 2009, 12:01

Wiggs as usual has a strong draft. Guys like Bay, Granderson, Atkins, Abreu, Wells and D Lee (if both stay healthy), will give Wiggs a solid core of hitting machines! 3 nice closers, provided Marmol keeps the gig, which isn't etched in stone, and a couple young fireballers at SP make for a great young foundation to build on. My only fear with this squad is that Wiggs will limit himself to his usual 4 or 5 WW pick ups all year and will find his team dropping once again because of that.

Fair assessment- I have never been one that has been big on the waiver wire. Maybe I will try to change that this season. I just usually fall in love with my team and never know who to move.

265

barilko6
ID: 1220247
Tue, Mar 24, 2009, 12:44

Maybe I will try to change that this season.

That is scary news Wiggs! I have always considered you as being one of the top drafters in the 3 leagues that we share.

266

Great One
ID: 46215212
Tue, Mar 24, 2009, 12:47

I'm the opposite... I try not to get married to anyone outside of my core of guys. If I see a sweet pitching matchup I'm all about rotating it in. Our outcomes are generally the same anyway, just different ways to get there.

I have cut people loose and lost them and had it backfire cause I wish i still had them -- but I've also gotten in on a few guys before they really took off and have benefited that way. Its all just rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic I guess! haha...

267

Khahan
ID: 391582715
Tue, Mar 24, 2009, 13:38

I get married to some players and ignore others with no rhyme or reason. Can't really explain it. Sometimes its good, sometimes it backfires. This league I've just been off from day 1. I remember our inaugural draft I was hyped to have gotten Jim Thome and Kerry Wood as cornerstones to my team for years to come. Even after their injuries I held on too long and am just now recovering. Of course there are just the opposite situations that have kept me from recovering in this league. My prior draftees/ww pick ups have included Mark Teixiera, Jose Reyes and Vlad Guerrero (2004), Ian Kinsler (2007), Victor Martinez (2007), Derek Lee (2005) and Nate McClouth (2007). I've traded for and had the likes of Brandon Webb and Jimmy rollins (2005). yet I hold onto guys like Dontrelle Willis the other year as keeper (right as he imploded).

In other leagues where I'm fighting for first and winning on a regular basis, I've never finished higher than 8th and have finished 10th at least 4 times. Its just a matter of being married to the wrong players at the wrong time.

Of course if I had held onto those guys above I wouldn't be poised for a long run of contention with the young guns I have now. :)

so if you want to know who to draft next year, take a look at my team from last year and which young players I didn't keep. :) You'll hit gold!

268

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Fri, Mar 27, 2009, 15:06

I wouldn't mind still having Markakis.

In my longest-running keeper league (10 keeper, 12 team), I came out of our initial 2004 draft with Randy Johnson, Pedro Martinez, and Johan Santana. I felt pretty good about that team, but it fell apart pretty quick. I still have Santana, but all of the others are long gone.

269

holt
ID: 56217300
Mon, Apr 06, 2009, 03:29

oh crap I just remembered the $10 entry fee. I'll look up the info and paypal it tomorrow. sorry.

270

barilko6
ID: 35318613
Sat, Apr 11, 2009, 19:21

Good first week...lots of story lines so far! The Jays look amazing, and my team will make a big push soon to take over that top spot!

I was hoping that Berkman would have 2 steals by now...

271

Great One
ID: 46215212
Mon, Apr 13, 2009, 17:12

Blue Hen is officially locked into Justin Upton as a keeper next year, right?

272

Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Mon, Apr 13, 2009, 17:30

I believe that is only fair.

I would also like to jump on GO's bandwagon in adding another starting hitting spot. Too much talent on the waiver wire.

273

Great One
ID: 4425722
Mon, Apr 13, 2009, 20:25

I usually reccomend the extra IF spot in a league this size, but I'd settle for a basic UT.

274

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Tue, Apr 14, 2009, 12:41

Still planning to keep Upton. All the better when I win 2009 as well.

We could definitely expand the rosters a bit. "Infield" just seems like everyone is going to pick up a first baseman anyway, so I'd rather another UT.

275

Great One
ID: 46215212
Tue, Apr 14, 2009, 13:13

Alright - start the keeper thread, and you are officially locked into keeping him! :0

I would be good with either, the reason I've seen IF work so well is because its usually the extra 1B/3B types that are clogging up the UT spots and waiver wire. So if you give them a home, then the UT spot itself opens up to random OF, 1B, 3B whatever...

276

barilko6
ID: 23217297
Tue, Apr 14, 2009, 13:13

Yeah, its primarily OF that is sitting on the WW, so either an extra OF or an extra UT would be perfect.

Stupid Lance Berkman

277

Great One
ID: 46215212
Tue, Apr 14, 2009, 13:24

BH - do you get Swishers inning from yesterday?

278

Great One
ID: 46215212
Tue, Apr 14, 2009, 13:28

Can Yahoo ever switch a PPD to not having the guys frozen? its so stupid. Is it the same at ESPN Dave?

I know CBS is even worse without even having staggered freezes, but freezing a guy in a PPD game drives me nuts.

279

Perm Dude
ID: 533581411
Tue, Apr 14, 2009, 13:32

Yeah, I was just swearing about that myself. Would have loved to be able to swap out Polanco for Uggla.

280

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Tue, Apr 14, 2009, 14:24

Yes, it's the same. PPD = locked at gametime.

No, batters' pitching stats don't count any more than pitchers' batting stats.

Both issues have come up around here and it's pretty unanimous on both counts.

281

Great One
ID: 46215212
Tue, Apr 14, 2009, 15:32

I don't understand what the motivation is to lock in a player in a PPD game at that start time. It can't be that hard to code it that when it changes to PPD - stays unlocked.

282

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Tue, Apr 14, 2009, 17:05

To me, it's like locking in a player who isn't playing. If the game has started, and you haven't taken him out of your lineup, he should stay in.

That's just my opinion, I certainly concede your right to disagree.

283

Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Tue, Apr 14, 2009, 17:30

But a player who isn't starting can still come in to pinch hit or run. They definitely cannot play if the game is postponed.

284

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Wed, Apr 15, 2009, 12:56

Well, it is only 2 weeks into the season and much too early to panic. However the Zephyrs so far have only 2 wins, 1 save and 4 batters under .200. Casey Stengel said it best when describing the 1962 NY Mets:"You look up and down the bench and you have to say to yourself, 'Can't anybody here play this game?'

285

Great One
ID: 46215212
Wed, Apr 15, 2009, 13:41

I made a point to draft guys with AVG after being killed there last year, and despite that I'm hitting like .200 on the year. Hell I'm doing better in Saves and I don't have a closer!

286

Perm Dude
ID: 18351159
Wed, Apr 15, 2009, 13:51

Anytime you see bh at the top of the standings you know something has gone horribly wrong...

287

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Wed, Apr 15, 2009, 14:39

I can't believe I took Lastings Milledge so early.

I can't believe I took Nick Swisher so late.

288

Khahan
ID: 391582715
Wed, Apr 15, 2009, 15:13

BH: I can't believe you didn't take mark prior

289

Great One
ID: 46215212
Wed, Apr 15, 2009, 16:32

And Daniel Cabrera especially with his move to an NL pitchers park.

290

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Wed, Apr 15, 2009, 18:44

My 2 wins are from a closer. Maybe my SPs can get me some saves.

291

blue hen
ID: 8115717
Wed, Apr 15, 2009, 22:41

Olly Perez with a good game tonight.

292

Great One
ID: 46215212
Thu, Apr 16, 2009, 08:48

Unfortunately, Oliver will sandwich the good game with two awful ones. Now if you only has ESP(N) and could predict when to start him!

293

Great One
ID: 46215212
Thu, Apr 16, 2009, 09:48

Kinsler last night? filthy... 6-6, w/ the cycle AND a SB.

Anyone need a studly 2B? I still got too many. OF is what I'm targeting. Pair it up with a closer perhaps, lord knows I need one. Or two.

294

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Thu, Apr 16, 2009, 10:54

Are you counting Alexei as a stud 2B?

295

barilko6
ID: 41336169
Thu, Apr 16, 2009, 11:03

My team is filled with guys who think that hitting below the Mendoza line is acceptable.

As most of you know, Blue Hen and I have a wager as to how many stolen bases Lance Berkman can get. The over/under is 8. My question now is: how the heck is Lance Berkman going to steal his bases when he is genuinely shocked at himself for getting to first base in the first place.

How is Ryan Braun going to hold the title of The Hebrew Hammer if he can't even sink a finishing nail. If Gabe Kapler wasn't sucking it up so much in TBay, I am sure he would have already submitted an email to Bud inquiring about the steps needed to take the title away from Braun.

And boy is Tulo ever making me look bad for using a valued keeper spot on him, although he does have 3 bombs so far this year.

Ian Stewart is pounding the crap out of the ball, is a solid, if not above average defensive player, yet the Rox can't seem to find a spot for him in their lineup. Putting him in RF last night is a good start.

Jay Bruce sucks. At least he is young.

Alex Rios needs to come around. I mean he plays for the most awesome team in the league, his teammates are hitting the ball like its 1993, but for some reason he is just sitting back and letting his ass get carried.

Houston needs to learn how to win games so Valverde can get some saves. Tampa Bay needs to stop being cheap and save their season by calling up Price.

Otherwise, its all on the young guys this year...Fowler, Snider, Pence, hopefully Andrus. Solid core to build on, albeit too many OF's.

Harang and Josh Johnson are money though! Their awesomeness remind me a lot of how awesome my team was in my head during the preseason.

Time to step things up boys!

296

Great One
ID: 46215212
Thu, Apr 16, 2009, 11:06

No, Alexei is my SS who just happens to have 2B. I was talking Pedroia, Kinsler and then if you want to add Alexei + Kendrick together.

297

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Sat, Apr 18, 2009, 10:20

Fair warning to the rest of the league. I am just giving you a head start to make the season more competitive.

298

blue hen
ID: 8115717
Sat, Apr 18, 2009, 22:11

In honor of this momentous day, here is a link for you to peruse. Pay particular attention to posts 112, 213, 214, and 217. Especially if your name is Barilko, Great One, or Khahan.

And oh yeah, let's talk about Heath Bell for a second...

299

Khahan
ID: 486552412
Sun, Apr 19, 2009, 11:05

Actually BH, share that high horse you are on with me. I simply posted a link showing he's injured but posted that I had drafted himself.

300

Khahan
ID: 486552412
Sun, Apr 19, 2009, 11:08

Oh, and while you are in gloat mode about pitchers Hen, pay particular attention to post #233.

Enjoy. :)

301

blue hen
ID: 8115717
Sun, Apr 19, 2009, 12:14

I'll never deny that my bad moves are bad. I just feel the need to call out my good ones. Keeping Lidge the last two years has been good, but then again, I kept him (and others including Mauer) over Markakis.

302

astade
ID: 191134222
Sun, Apr 19, 2009, 16:45

GO, payment sent via PayPal. Sorry for being late.

303

Great One
ID: 4425722
Sun, Apr 19, 2009, 18:12

According to Statracker, I've made up 29.5 points on Blue Hen today. Nice!! haha...

304

blue hen
ID: 8115717
Sun, Apr 19, 2009, 20:03

Not bad. Why I'm that high up in the first place is a mystery to all of us.

305

GO on G1
ID: 30551218
Sun, Apr 19, 2009, 21:15

And Lidge blows his first save in a long time right on cue lol....

306

blue hen
ID: 8115717
Mon, Apr 20, 2009, 00:07

In [298], what momentous day did you think I was talking about?

307

barilko6
ID: 41336169
Tue, Apr 21, 2009, 15:57

I don't know who to be more surprised with...Blue Hen or Team Awesome. (Toronto Blue Jays)

308

Great One
ID: 46215212
Tue, Apr 21, 2009, 16:10

Surprised Blue Hen is now down to third place? whohoo!!! :0

309

Great One
ID: 46215212
Tue, Apr 21, 2009, 16:13

Moving into 1st is all the more amazing when I look at my squad and have 5 guys I have been playing have a combined AVG of like .179 or something -- Prince, Alexei, Conor Jackson, Guillen and Kendrick.

Kinsler is #1 in the entire game though, so he's been doing the heavy lifting.

310

barilko6
ID: 41336169
Tue, Apr 21, 2009, 17:00

Yeah, i feel that pain. Berkman, Rios, Braun, Tulo, Bruce, and Mauer have combined to give me a .207 avg. It sucks. Bad.

311

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Tue, Apr 21, 2009, 17:25

Berkman update:

44 At Bats
9 Hits
12 Walks
0 HBP
0 SB attempts
0 Stolen Bases

312

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Tue, Apr 21, 2009, 18:05

For the record, I've had some bad starts as well...

Navarro .200, DeRosa .236 (but 15 RBIs), Davis .179, Maybin .194, Crawford .241, Upton .182, Bradley .053, Gordon .095, and Milledge (worse).

My pitchers have been decent, especially Billingsley, Bedard, Cain, Broxton, Bell, and Putz. More importantly, I feel like have the pieces in place where they need to be.

313

Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Wed, Apr 22, 2009, 19:33

The waiver time is 3 days. That's pretty long, and I believe it has been 2 days in the past (I could be wrong). But would it be possible to move it down to 2 days?

314

Great One
ID: 4425722
Wed, Apr 22, 2009, 20:44

I noticed that as well, its forever... if a guy gets dropped on Monday morning, you couldn't claim and start him til Saturday's games.

315

Khahan
ID: 391582715
Thu, Apr 23, 2009, 09:15

Fixed. It had been 2 (maybe even 1) days in the past.

316

Great One
ID: 46215212
Thu, Apr 23, 2009, 10:22

The 1st place merry-go-round continues with Khahan taking a spin!

317

Khahan
ID: 391582715
Thu, Apr 23, 2009, 12:14

yeah, but I put super-glue on my butt, so now that I'm seated, I shold stay put for a while.

318

barilko6
ID: 35318613
Thu, Apr 23, 2009, 12:56

I vote myself manager of the year. Since calling out my superstars they have done the following:

Ryan Braun: 6 for 7, 3 R, 2 HR, 4 RBI

Alex Rios: 5 for 11, R, 4 RBIs

Jay Bruce: 4 for 8, 2 R, 2 HR, 3 RBI

Tulo: 0 for 5. Ok this guy needs positive reinforcements. You can do it man!

Lance Berkman: 2 for 7, 2 R, 1 Hr, 2 RBI

My players all suck. If Valverde gets another save it will shock me.

319

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Thu, Apr 23, 2009, 14:35

Oh my god! You made Ryan Braun hit! You are amazing!

320

Perm Dude
ID: 213592312
Thu, Apr 23, 2009, 14:46

All it took was a little work on the down low, it seems.

321

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Thu, Apr 23, 2009, 14:57

Or Ryan Braun being awesome?

322

barilko6
ID: 35318613
Thu, Apr 23, 2009, 19:12

Awesome AFTER being called out by his awesome manager. Damn, I am going to win this thing after all. Nice.

323

Tree
ID: 41371322
Thu, Apr 23, 2009, 19:47

he was still all bound up form all the matzoh he had to eat during passover...took a while to get out of his system...

324

Great One
ID: 46215212
Tue, Apr 28, 2009, 09:04

I'm thinking Blue Hen did a good job of jinxing Lidge. Nice! and how long til he cuts Oliver Perez entirely?

325

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Thu, Apr 30, 2009, 11:14

Man, I love smack talk.

326

Great One
ID: 46215212
Thu, Apr 30, 2009, 11:39

Alexei up to .214 on the season, whoo!!!

327

blue hen
ID: 8115717
Sun, May 03, 2009, 01:35

Stolen Base Update: Season Totals For Selected Players

Jack Cust: 1
Lance Berkman: 0

328

holt
ID: 303502019
Sun, May 03, 2009, 14:01

Yadier Molina: 1
Matt Holliday: 0

329

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Tue, May 05, 2009, 11:20

(Insert more smack)

330

barilko6
ID: 41336169
Tue, May 05, 2009, 12:33

I have to scroll up when I get a free minute to see what I am going to have to do when Lance doesn't meet his Stolen base projections.

At least he had his first attempt on Saturday. Things are looking uP!!!!!

331

barilko6
ID: 41336169
Tue, May 05, 2009, 18:35

Weird. Yahoo processed my claim on Cecil this afternoon. I thought all claims were processed overnight.

Here is hoping Cecil is money and can help my sorry team.

332

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Tue, May 05, 2009, 18:46

Or at least that he's money and he came to party.

333

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Tue, May 05, 2009, 19:36

How good is Erik Bedard? He mostly shuts down the Rangers for 7 innings, the game goes extra innings, and the Rangers explode for 6 runs in the 10th.

334

barilko6
ID: 35318613
Tue, May 05, 2009, 21:34

Bedard is an elite pitcher. If only he could stay healthy for a full season and pitch for a team that helps him out more.

335

barilko6
ID: 41336169
Wed, May 06, 2009, 11:58

Please mark May 6 down on your fantasy sheets. This is the day that The Honkballers hit rock bottom and then started their incredible push to a money finish.

336

blue hen
ID: 8115717
Tue, May 12, 2009, 23:23

Duly marked.

337

holt
ID: 303502019
Tue, May 26, 2009, 22:17

Can anyone explain why Geoff Blum is the Astros' starting 3b? It's one of those things that blows my mind. He's something like 34 yrs old, has never been a successful hitter... how in the world is he a starting 3b in the major leagues?

338

Great One
ID: 17459269
Wed, May 27, 2009, 09:15

Can somebody give me Brad Lidge's stats since 4/18 when Blue Hen started bragging about him not blowing a save in two years?! haha... thats why I'm scared to talk about any of my players doing good.

Otherwise I'd bring up Nelson Cruz winning the battle vs. Andre Ethier in G20.

339

Perm Dude
ID: 154552311
Wed, May 27, 2009, 10:51

Heh. I watched that on TV yesterday. He looked terrible. Might as well sign Bob Wickman if they want a pitcher like that--save the team millions.

Since 4/18:

15.3 innings
22 hits
17 ER
14/12 K/BB
6 saves/4 blown saves

His ERA jumped from 4.50 on 4/17 to 8.85. WHIP from 1.333 to 2.066.

340

barilko6
ID: 41336169
Wed, May 27, 2009, 11:10

I think maybe reverse thinking might be a good strategy. Start crying about how bad a guy is and maybe he will turn things around!

341

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Wed, May 27, 2009, 12:44

Boo hoo. Adam Dunn is down to .284. Pick it up, man.

And honestly, I probably should have traded Heath Bell a month ago.

342

Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Sun, May 31, 2009, 21:48

Unbelievable how all 7 of my keepers have spent time on the DL and/or stunk (Vlad, Reyes, Quentin, Arod, Ortiz, Webb, and Kazmir).

343

blue hen
ID: 8115717
Mon, Jun 01, 2009, 00:03

That's pretty lousy, although Quentin and Kazmir are hardly suprising. Vlad and Webb have a bit of injury history as well. But you are right - that's a pretty magnificent 7.

344

Great One
ID: 17459269
Mon, Jun 08, 2009, 09:27

Boo Hoo... Adam Dunn is down to .264 -- Pick it up man!

345

barilko6
ID: 41336169
Mon, Jun 08, 2009, 10:13

Sent out some emails, but I am looking to move saves for a big bat. Any position.

I have elite closers, middle level closers, injured closers, and low end closers, so I can work around any offer!

My internet is lousy though, so I won't be able to respond until Tuesday AM when I get back to work, so take all day to forumlate your best offer!!!

346

barilko6
ID: 755989
Mon, Jun 08, 2009, 10:59

Also am willing to look at moving future stars like David Price, Jay Bruce, Dexter Fowler, Elvis Andrus, Rick Porcello, and Phil Hughes.

I am looking to make a move!

347

Great One
ID: 17459269
Mon, Jun 08, 2009, 13:26

Bay/Wilson/wiggs11th for Kinsler/McCutchen/GO's 3rd

I'm gonna put any picks in here too just to be safe.

348

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Fri, Jun 12, 2009, 14:12

Man, as soon as I hit first place, the chatter totally died down.

349

Great One
ID: 17459269
Fri, Jun 12, 2009, 14:28

I'm gonna beat you this season. And Dunn's down to .256

350

barilko6
ID: 41336169
Sat, Jun 13, 2009, 10:19

Don't look now but The Honkballers are starting to make their move....

351

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Sat, Jun 13, 2009, 12:40

My team looked reasonably strong at the beginning of the season, but I could not have predicted that Martin, Rollins and Ordonez would be hitting so poorly (They are all having negative career years.), and that Manny would be suspended causing Ethier to slump. Sizemore, has not been hitting due to injury and could have season ending surgery. My best hope is for second half bounce backs by these players and for Sizemore to avoid surgery and return to top 5 form. My starting pitching is fine, but I have not been able to improve my closers during the season as I thought I would with FAs. Starters are available for closers if there is any interest. My secret weapon, a stud pitcher by the name of Casey, will be joining the Zephyrs after the All Star break and will dominate all pitching categories.

352

barilko6
ID: 41336169
Sun, Jun 14, 2009, 08:43

Casey Fossum is not a stud pitcher!

353

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Sun, Jun 14, 2009, 11:35

Follow the link: Casey

354

blue hen
ID: 8115717
Sun, Jun 14, 2009, 14:21

That's almost as good as Loof Lirpa or Sidd Finch. There's a guy named John Barr out there you might like as well.

Loki, I agree; your team has been terrible unlucky this season. Unlike Barilko or Great One, who have just plain bad teams.

355

holt
ID: 303502019
Sun, Jun 14, 2009, 15:45

re 353 - I also remember a twilight zone episode with robot boxers.

BH - like William Hung, enjoy it while it lasts.

356

blue hen
ID: 8115717
Sun, Jun 14, 2009, 22:34

That's awesome Holt. I'll have to scroll a little further down the standings so I can get a good zinger in on your team.

Man, I love smack.

357

barilko6
ID: 41336169
Mon, Jun 15, 2009, 14:33

The Honkballers are moving up faster than flies at an ant wedding.

Guys are starting to play to their drafted potential, and I have moved from 9th to 4th in a matter of no time.

I would like to say thanks to Blue Hen for keeping my 1st place spot warm for me until I get to the top.

358

Great One
ID: 17459269
Mon, Jun 15, 2009, 15:43

I put a Treasury Dept. post on the league homepage so if you haven't paid please check in. And if you have please make sure I've got it right. I was real busy around the start of the season.

359

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Mon, Jun 15, 2009, 16:49

I totally thought I had paid, but looking back at Paypal and email, I never did. I just sent it over.

Thank you all for your generous donation to the Blue Hen Exorbitant Rent Fund.

360

Perm Dude
ID: 154552311
Mon, Jun 15, 2009, 16:59

I sent a money order for mine. It isn't a huge amount, so if you can't find it lemme know and I'll get another one. No biggie.

361

Great One
ID: 4352817
Mon, Jun 15, 2009, 18:43

PD - I remember the money order like a month or so ago, I'll check you off.

362

astade
Sustainer
ID: 214361313
Mon, Jun 15, 2009, 23:11

Tree, I got your trade offer. I'll reply via Yahoo in the next day or two.

363

blue hen
ID: 8115717
Tue, Jun 16, 2009, 00:45

Barilko, I got your trade offer. I am really looking for steals, so I don't think Berkman for Pujols is going to cut it. Congrats on getting up to two.

364

barilko6
ID: 29511166
Tue, Jun 16, 2009, 07:11

Hen...Berkman was never part of the offer, you better check again. He is too good to part with.

The offer was my 4th round pick in 2013 and Tulo for Pujols and your 1st.

365

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Tue, Jun 16, 2009, 11:25

Not parting with my first round pick. The guy I took this year has been so productive.

366

Great One
ID: 17459269
Tue, Jun 16, 2009, 14:49

Anyone paying PayPal with credit card tack on 60 cents for fees please.

367

barilko6
ID: 555542313
Tue, Jun 23, 2009, 14:55

Unbelievable. Blue Hen is already in first place and now he expects me to trade him my 1st and 2nd round picks for next year to take Berkman's contract off my hands.

Please send me offers for a third baseman. Mike Lowell just started to realize he is Mike Lowell and that he should start to suck immediately to get his stats to average out to Mike Lowell like stats.

I have plenty to offer I think. Youth, saves, or if you want to go really big, we can see what fits!

368

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Tue, Jun 23, 2009, 16:18

Interestingly enough, I think Houston is actually considering a deal like that.

By the way, Berkman is up to three steals. I think you might get there after all.

369

barilko6
ID: 49546248
Wed, Jun 24, 2009, 09:47

Now it is all clear. I am surprised I didn't figure this one out before this newsflash came across my computer screen.

Lance Berkman, probably the fastest first baseman this side of John Kruk, was a mortal lock for double digit steals this year. I didn't even think twice about that goal. I mean everyone who knew anything about pumas and panthers knew Berkman was good for at least 11. So I made the bet. It almost seemed like a sucker bet at first, I mean how could Hen even consider taking the under.

So then check me out as I was absolutely mortified as I watched Berkman not even get on base enough to even consider swiping a base. Come on, if the dude doesn't even have it in his bat to get to first, how the heck is he going to steal his way to second, and thereby seal my wager?

But then it all became clear. The facts have finally surfaced and the baseball nation can rest easy. Berkman's wife just gave birth to their 4th child. So not only did Berkman have to expend all his extra energy chasing around 3 current rugrats, but he also had the added task of ice cream and pickle runs for his significant other. I am surprised he even had energy to pick Miggy's throws out of the dirt time and time again.

So...hopefully all is well again. 3 stolen bases by a 220 pound 33 year old first baseman is gold as he makes his way to the magic number of 8 and seal Hen as the worst prognosticator since that guy in our league who was crazy hyping fireballers, and I use that term very loosely, Mark Prior, Daniel Cabrera, and Oliver Perez as the second, third, and fourth comings of Nolan Ryan.

With Berkman back, both mentally and ice creamily, The Honkballers are poised to take this league.

Great One, step aside. Khahan, best of luck as you battle for that second place finish behind my Alex Rios lead all-star squad. DaBomb, Tree, Holt, get my money to GO pronto.

Less than a month ago The Honkballers were in a desperate fight to maintain a 9th place position in this league, but now things are looking up, nothing less than 1st is acceptable at this point.

David Price is on the block for something that can help me now. Jay Bruce too. Elvis is still here, waiting to leave the building for a player or package of guys who can help me this year.

I have a second round pick available for an upgrade as well. Or a third. Fourth. Fifth.

The all-star break hasn't arrived yet, so there is lots of time to make up points!

370

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Wed, Jun 24, 2009, 10:58

That's beautiful, except every gurupie knows that I spend endless time bashing Nolan Ryan. Let's call them the "Next Randy Johnsons."

371

holt
ID: 303502019
Thu, Jun 25, 2009, 03:32

all I want to know is, when and why did David Wright turn into Ichiro Suzuki?

372

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Thu, Jun 25, 2009, 10:41

I think the answer to that question is 2009.

373

holt
ID: 303502019
Thu, Jun 25, 2009, 18:09

well the SB's are great but the power outage is just bizarre. especially considering that he's hitting .365 or whatever.

I heard he made some kind of statement like "I never really considered myself a power hitter anyway". Not encouraging, and kind of retarded coming from someone who hit with good power all 5 of his previous MLB seasons (and probably every season going back to little league).

374

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Thu, Jun 25, 2009, 19:15

Dammit, Berkman stole a base tonight.

375

barilko6
ID: 17526269
Fri, Jun 26, 2009, 10:26

Just be happy we didn't bet a 1st round draft pick.

376

Great One
ID: 205282111
Sat, Jun 27, 2009, 21:53

I'd bet a first rounder that I beat Blue Hen this season. The only thing I'm trying to figure out is if I pass him by the ASB or not.

377

blue hen
ID: 8115717
Sun, Jun 28, 2009, 01:42

Now THAT is some smack. I hope someone takes Great One up on that bet.

378

holt
ID: 303502019
Sun, Jun 28, 2009, 05:06

and meanwhile, holt will be passing all of you...

379

barilko6
ID: 305542817
Sun, Jun 28, 2009, 18:55

Was at the Jays game today and I have a good feeling for The Honkballers this week. Watch out George and Weezie...we are a movin' on up...

380

Great One
ID: 205282111
Sun, Jun 28, 2009, 22:44

If BH had any real faith in his team, he'd take the offer himself!

381

blue hen
ID: 8115717
Sun, Jun 28, 2009, 23:58

You're a bully. Besides, the satisfaction of winning is enough.

382

Khahan
ID: 391582715
Mon, Jun 29, 2009, 10:20

Yes BH, the satisfaction of winning is enough (along with the $$ prize). And since you'll be seeing nothing more than 2nd place or worse this year I suggest you take the offer.

383

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Mon, Jun 29, 2009, 10:53

Wait a minute. That means I don't get the satisfaction of winning NOR the money AND I have to forfeit a first rounder? Sounds like a pretty terrible deal to me.

Khahan, it sounds like you're very confident in Great One's ability to win. That's awesome. Does anyone want to take the other side of the coin and gamble on me? I promise I'll try my best. Heck, maybe Khahan will even give you odds of some sort.

384

Great One
ID: 17459269
Mon, Jun 29, 2009, 11:09

I think Khahan is confident he can beat you too.

385

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Mon, Jun 29, 2009, 11:15

Yeah, but that's not nearly as much fun. And if you're both so confident, why isn't the bet with each other?

386

Great One
ID: 17459269
Mon, Jun 29, 2009, 11:28

I don't know if i can win it all, I just know my squad is better than The Blue Hens.

387

barilko6
ID: 455552910
Mon, Jun 29, 2009, 11:55

Wait...

Unless you are considering keepers, isn't the better squad the one that wins it all???

388

Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Mon, Jun 29, 2009, 22:50

I have surged to 9th place. Just a matter of time before my team gets healthy and I make a 2nd half run of the ages to win the league.

389

Perm Dude
ID: 154552311
Mon, Jun 29, 2009, 22:56

Well, for any surge lasting more than 4 hours you should call your doctor, Da Bomb.

390

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Tue, Jun 30, 2009, 10:32

Blech. Third place. It was a good run.

391

Great One
ID: 17459269
Tue, Jun 30, 2009, 11:33

Hen should be hearing MVP's entrance music as he turns around and notices me in his rearview... MVP

392

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Tue, Jun 30, 2009, 11:41

Last I checked, you were about four points behind me. Stop William Regaling me until you actually catch up.

393

Great One
ID: 17459269
Tue, Jun 30, 2009, 11:52

Well when you lose 4.5 in a night, it can't be that hard for me to keep getting closer!

394

barilko6
ID: 52645219
Thu, Jul 02, 2009, 20:45

Not that I am looking like I will finish in the top 3 this year, but I think it is totally ridiculous that there are guys who haven`t sent in their money despite repeated warnings and reminders.

The punishment that GO instituted for not paying being a simple `you can`t win any money this year` in my mind isn`t much of a punishment if you aren`t close to the top anyways.

So I propose that Tree and DaBomb get their $10 in. Seriously, its not like that is going to break a bank or anything.

My proposal: If its not in by the all-star break, then I think that they should be eliminated from any future yearly prize pools immediately, much like we do in the G20 BB league.

395

blue hen
ID: 8115717
Fri, Jul 03, 2009, 15:14

Still haven't passed me yet, GO. And yes, I'm going to milk it until you do.

396

Da Bomb
ID: 38638315
Fri, Jul 03, 2009, 16:38

Since barilko posts the same messages on here and the league
page, I will do so as well...

I'm sending the money in. Just kept putting it off, sorry.

Also, I don't like the punishment of not getting it in at a certain
time being ineligible as this would make the prize pool less. Prize
pool should always be $120, with everyone paying, no excuses.

397

Great One
ID: 205282111
Fri, Jul 03, 2009, 17:04

Tree is accounted for and Da Bomb is always good for it so I'm not worried, just get it over sometime this week so I can close the book on collection. Its more that part of worrying about tracking thats a pain the butt than anything. Not that we don't think anyone won't pay up.

Thanks guys! GO

And BH -- I'm comin'! I just pulled over to eat a sandwich and drink a beer. But starting tomorrow I'm back on the highway to the top! :)

398

barilko6
ID: 37652316
Fri, Jul 03, 2009, 17:52

Yeah, I wasn't sure where people were reading, and didn't think it was fair for GO to have to continue to hound people for the money, so I posted it on both.

I agree that it should always be $120 as well.

399

holt
ID: 2463620
Sat, Jul 04, 2009, 05:39

I don't really care when everyone pays. You can't send it to me til the season is over anyways.

400

holt
ID: 2463620
Mon, Jul 06, 2009, 19:47

dunno who has Cueto, but OUCH!

401

Perm Dude
ID: 154552311
Mon, Jul 06, 2009, 20:11

wow! Looks like loki got tagged with that one.

402

blue hen
ID: 8115717
Mon, Jul 06, 2009, 22:53

What do you mean ouch? My team just swept their big rivals and won 22-1 today. That's just fine by me.

403

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Tue, Jul 07, 2009, 10:10

Holt, the way my players have been doing, you should have assumed it was me. This season has been one to forget. I'll just lump Cueto's performance along with all my other under performers as I am well on my way to my 1st last place finish ever. My initial trade with GO for Rollins set the pattern for the whole season, and after an initial run, it has been down hill ever since. Maybe my team will wake up, and the Zephyrs will make a run at 11th place.

404

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Tue, Jul 07, 2009, 10:13

GO, re that trade, you owe me one. You can buy me a drink at Rafferty's.

405

Tree
ID: 41371322
Tue, Jul 07, 2009, 10:34

wow. 8.5 points gained in one night. at this point in the season, that's a LOT. i'm sure it'll correct itself, but still..

406

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Tue, Jul 07, 2009, 13:10

Yeah, that's impressive. Even more interesting is that it wasn't exactly a monster night - just a good night and a few lucky categories. But I guess that's how you win (not that I would know).

There are several contenders in this league. My plan to keep Cain and Billingsley looks pretty good right now, but I wish my other pitchers (Garza and Bedard, particularly) would contribute at the same level.

407

Khahan
ID: 391582715
Wed, Jul 08, 2009, 09:24

No draft picks involved in either of my trades.

Time to roll the dice. I'm still in the market.

408

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Wed, Jul 08, 2009, 10:10

Nice moves, Khahan. If nothing else, it shakes things up.

Tree actually held on to 6 of those points, so that's good (for him).

409

barilko6
ID: 2962289
Wed, Jul 08, 2009, 10:22

Khahan...

If you are still in the market, you should reply to emails once in awhile! I've sent two to you in the last week that went unreplied. :)

Do I have the right email address? (jghfantasysports one?)

410

barilko6
ID: 2962289
Wed, Jul 08, 2009, 10:27

Sorry, I meant gjhfantasysports one!

411

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Fri, Jul 10, 2009, 10:08

Damn, Berkman is on fire with the steals.

412

Great One
ID: 205282111
Sun, Jul 12, 2009, 18:37

Damn, I was hoping to be up to 1st by the ASB but Sabathia didn't get the memo! :0

413

blue hen
ID: 8115717
Sun, Jul 12, 2009, 21:14

Well, this isn't how I intended to be doing at the ASB. My team is essentially the opposite of "on fire." Is that like being out of whack? What's the opposite of out of whack?

415

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Mon, Jul 13, 2009, 10:18

I would like to attribute my poor performance to being a keeper league rookie, but its not. No way to have predicted key hitters Ordonez, Sizemore, Martin and Rollins to be "out of whack." Can they hit their groove (opposite of out of whack) after the ASB; who knows? My only real mistake was waiting too long to take a closer which was a function of playing in a keeper league for the 1st time. I will make some sort of a run as the law of averages kicks in for my hitters, but in 2010 I will be factor. The Zephyrs have a strong nucleus of keepers and some very talented young pitchers to get me started in 2010.

416

Khahan
ID: 391582715
Mon, Jul 13, 2009, 15:05

Sizemore is starting to heat up I think (I have him in 2 other keeper leagues so I've been watching his stats). As for Rollins he is looking better. I was at the game on Fri and every at bat he hit the ball very well. Very solid contact, very hard hits....right at fielders. Every single one. He's not swinging a limp noodle anymore. He just can't find the holes.

417

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Fri, Jul 17, 2009, 09:52

Somebody, please get a net.

418

Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Sun, Jul 19, 2009, 23:00

I was debating whether or not to use the high priority on Joba, but ultimately decided to go for it. Hopefully he follows in the footsteps of Verlander and Nolasco, also dropped by Perm Dude.

419

Perm Dude
ID: 154552311
Sun, Jul 19, 2009, 23:10

I stuck with him for some time, but I think he's only getting time in the rotation because the Yankees don't have anyone else to replace him with. Pitching half his games in "Coors Field of the East" doesn't help.

Good luck with him.

420

blue hen
ID: 8115717
Mon, Jul 20, 2009, 01:28

I shouldn't tell you this, but he wouldn't have made it past #4 waiver.

421

Perm Dude
ID: 154552311
Mon, Jul 20, 2009, 01:56

Jeez, how sad is that?

Make me an offer for Pedro, hen. He's overhyped. And a Phillie. What more can you want?

422

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Mon, Jul 20, 2009, 10:15

Oh I love me some Pedro. But I sure don't plan to do you any favors, after dropping Joba into the lap of the favorite to win this league.

423

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Mon, Jul 20, 2009, 11:10

In the midst of my team of under performers there is Jake Fox. He was leading all minor leagues in BA, RBIs and HRs when I drafted him, and he has continued to hit against ML pitching: BA .326 (28/86), 5 HR, 11 R, 19 RBIs, OBP .365, and SLG .593 (last 2 stats for RIBC AAA). He has shown Piniella that he can hit righties and lefties , but Piniella will only play him part time. Fox needs a position, but how do you sit someone so hot. That's how my season has gone, but at least this is a keeper league.

424

Perm Dude
ID: 154552311
Mon, Jul 20, 2009, 11:16

Trust me, hennie: You'll be thanking be later as Joba balloons up his WHIP and ERA.

Re Fox: Yeah--I didn't start him yesterday in another league, and he makes me pay! I was hoping he'd get more PT with Soto out but there's just no way to predict. He'd got the tools to be an everyday player from what I can tell.

425

Great One
ID: 17459269
Mon, Jul 20, 2009, 11:36

He is missing the "defense" tool unfortunately.

426

astade
ID: 214361313
Mon, Jul 20, 2009, 20:25

Hey PD,

Did you put Joba on the trading block before you dropped him? I haven't been checking in much the last 3wks, so I'm just curious.

I probably would have traded for him

427

Perm Dude
ID: 154552311
Mon, Jul 20, 2009, 21:17

No--I just suffered through his 15 ER in 26.2 IP since June 18th.

Didn't realize the Joba halo effect was still around.

429

Da Bomb
ID: 466572018
Mon, Jul 20, 2009, 21:39

This is the worst Joba has pitched in his professional career, and I think this performance is more an exception than of things to come. He might already be turning things around based on his last outing of 3 hits and 8 Ks in 6 2/3 IP.

430

astade
ID: 214361313
Mon, Jul 20, 2009, 22:16

Thanks PD, I guess being a Yankees fan, I still have the rose-colored glasses on. ;)

431

Great One
ID: 17459269
Tue, Jul 21, 2009, 10:27

An inside source told me Blue Hen flew to Houston over the all star break to attend to "personal matters" and now this.

Lance Berkman is scheduled to undergo an MRI Tuesday on his left calf.Berkman looked to be in a good deal of pain while running the bases Monday night.

432

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Tue, Jul 21, 2009, 13:39

Seriously, did I have any other option?

433

holt
ID: 206331521
Tue, Jul 21, 2009, 14:26

I have J.Fox in RIBC. Piniella's managing skills as a Cub seem piss-poor to me. Glad I'm a Cardinals fan. Being a Cubs fan must be unimaginably painful.

434

Great One
ID: 17459269
Wed, Jul 22, 2009, 16:03

Picked a good day to give Doumit his first start since coming off the DL! that never works out lol...

435

barilko6
ID: 32612310
Thu, Jul 23, 2009, 11:01

Berkman pinch hit! Sweet.

I heard he is one of the fastest first basemen in the league.

436

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Thu, Jul 23, 2009, 13:35

Definitely good enough to steal 8 bases in a season.

437

Perm Dude
ID: 154552311
Thu, Jul 23, 2009, 17:57

Don't think I'll ever get a better pitching line than tonight:

16IP 2W 1S 10K 0.00 ERA 0.24 WHIP

438

blue hen
ID: 8115717
Thu, Jul 23, 2009, 22:08

Yeah that's pretty impressive. Buerhle is going to look bad on an interesting career someday.

439

barilko6
ID: 86162410
Fri, Jul 24, 2009, 11:16

Berkman to the DL.....boo

440

Great One
ID: 17459269
Fri, Jul 24, 2009, 11:26

Its amazing I have 40 more RBI's than the closest competitor. I was certainly not shooting for power numbers when I was picking players. I'd certainly sell some power for somebody who could steal a base though. Ibanez anyone?

And I got a save from both Wuertz and Phil Hughes this week, thats funny!

441

holt
ID: 206331521
Fri, Jul 24, 2009, 18:39

Holliday is still showing in yahoo as being with OAK, and he has an X by his name. He is starting for StL tonight though. I guess I'm wondering if his stats are going to register properly tonight. They should, I guess. Or maybe I should bench him? Ah well.

442

holt
ID: 206331521
Fri, Jul 24, 2009, 19:54

nvm - they fixed it

very happy to see Holliday with Cards now!

443

holt
ID: 206331521
Sun, Jul 26, 2009, 06:03

I don't start Shin-Soo Choo much, but when he faces a righty I always consider it. This week I noticed something weird, so I went to google news and sure enough, on Monday Cleveland will be facing its 9th straight southpaw starter. Unbelievable.

444

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Sun, Jul 26, 2009, 23:16

Watch out for the Zephyrs: +7 today!

445

Perm Dude
ID: 154552311
Sun, Jul 26, 2009, 23:59

wow, quite a jump.

How do you know already how much you'd gain?

446

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Mon, Jul 27, 2009, 08:02

PD-From Stattracker after the completion of Sunday's schedule. Even though this certainly is temporary, it was nice to see.

447

Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Mon, Jul 27, 2009, 19:05

I think it's time for me to face reality and start working on next year. Injuries just came at me like I've never witnessed before. I'm either looking to package a few guys for a keeper quality player or trade players for draft picks.

Players that are most looking to be my keepers are A-rod, Reyes, Votto, Verlander, Gallardo, and Webb, so they will be more difficult to obtain.

However, that leaves players such as Wieters, Ortiz, Kubel, Vlad, Hunter, Quentin, Escobar, Wandy, Joba, Happ, Kazmir, and my 5 closers to be had. Let the bidding begin!

448

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Tue, Jul 28, 2009, 12:40

Hey guys, I got a decent offer for Pujols yesterday. It's not quite enough, but it got me thinking about things. If you can give me enough good players to put me in a position to win this year, let's talk. It's probably going to take one lesser keeper-quality player, one or two aging stars who are still hitting, and some other stuff from closers, a catcher and a starter. There are only a couple players in this league who can command an offer like that, and I am lucky to be one of them.

449

Perm Dude
ID: 154552311
Tue, Jul 28, 2009, 12:57

Sent something over you might find tasty, hen.

450

Great One
ID: 065867
Tue, Jul 28, 2009, 13:00

Ryan Ludwick?! haha... wrong league! :) (he's been raking by the way).

451

Great One
ID: 065867
Tue, Jul 28, 2009, 13:01

I took "2007" off of our league name.

Looking at all time standings, Holt, Da Bomb and Great One have been in the top 3 (or tied for 3rd) for FOUR straight seasons. Wow.

452

Perm Dude
ID: 154552311
Tue, Jul 28, 2009, 13:06

453

Perm Dude
ID: 154552311
Tue, Jul 28, 2009, 14:35

Got the trade offer GO. Gimme just a bit to mull it over.

Good luck, bh. Pujols in return for the top 5-6 good & young players on my team is a typing exercise.

455

holt
ID: 206331521
Tue, Jul 28, 2009, 15:17

offers sent to BH and barilko

456

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Tue, Jul 28, 2009, 15:18

You bet. I'm definitely going to take my time with this. I'm very fortunate to have had Pujols drop in my lap, and I want to make sure I do the right thing.

I understand most teams can't just pull together an offer with a bunch of players, many of whom are potential keepers, too quickly. I'm willing to listen or talk through anything that's out there.

Remember that you get to keep Pujols unconditionally for the next 8 to 10 years. Every year, it'll be like getting the #1 pick in a roto draft. I'm happy to be heading down that path; however, I'm also willing to part from that path but I need to all but guarantee victory for 2009.

That's going to mean probably 5-6 players who are contributing for you right now. It's a steep price.

457

holt
ID: 206331521
Tue, Jul 28, 2009, 15:25

sorry I deleted my message. thought it looked goofy to say give me time to offer and then offer sent immediately after. anyway, if there are pieces of my offer that disgust you, let me know what they are.

458

blue hen
ID: 599281215
Sun, Aug 02, 2009, 00:01

Hey guys, I've been away for a couple days. I have six offers in for Pujols. Three of you are in the ballpark (you know who you are, I'd guess).

Some pretty tempting stuff, for the most part. I've made some counter offers or at least opened the lines of discussion with just about all of you - please let me know if you have more to say.

I haven't yet found something compelling me to move Pujols, but clearly there's a market.

459

holt
ID: 206331521
Sun, Aug 02, 2009, 02:56

fyi - I'm going camping in the morning - will be back Tuesday evening.

460

astade
Sustainer
ID: 214361313
Mon, Aug 03, 2009, 20:53

blue hen, i sent you an offer.

461

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Tue, Aug 04, 2009, 12:38

I saw it, Astade.

There are definitely a lot of compelling offers here, including things like players o-ranked in the single digits and one offer that included eight players straight up. Many of them are tempting, but so is having Pujols.

I've also fallen back in the last few weeks. If I'm not going to compete this year, I should probably hang on to Albert. I'll keep thinking about it.

462

Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Tue, Aug 04, 2009, 23:21

I see that our trade deadline is the 16th. However, I know it could possibly be made later as RIBC has the deadline on the 30th. Would anyone be against pushing it back a little?

Also, I have closers available for a modest draft pick upgrade.

463

Great One
ID: 4778411
Wed, Aug 05, 2009, 09:14

I am in favor of pushing it back to that same August 30th... the season doesn't even end til Oct 4th so 8/16 just seems way to early.

If anyone has a major problem with it please email me. Otherwise I'll bump it back tomorrow.

464

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Wed, Aug 05, 2009, 10:17

In favor of pushing it back as well.

465

Perm Dude
ID: 154552311
Wed, Aug 05, 2009, 10:25

Can it be changed at this point, or are we locked into it?

466

Perm Dude
ID: 154552311
Wed, Aug 05, 2009, 10:34

I didn't phrase that too well. My question was whether the change trade deadline setting was one that is changable in the Commish Tools or was locked in with other settings once we began play.

467

Great One
ID: 4778411
Wed, Aug 05, 2009, 11:24

I was able to change it. So I'm just gonna leave it at 8/30 unless anyone has a major problem with it.

468

holt
ID: 42733610
Thu, Aug 06, 2009, 19:02

sometimes I think BH picks up Ollie Perez just to amuse us.

469

astade
Sustainer
ID: 214361313
Fri, Aug 07, 2009, 00:01

I think the trade deadline is much less important in a keeper league. If you try to dump players or make a huge move at the end of the year, you will pay the price the following year. I am in favor for it being as late as possible. Maybe this is something we can discuss in the off-season?

470

Khahan
ID: 486552412
Fri, Aug 07, 2009, 08:49

It was supposed to be the latest date possible. That is what it was last year and Yahoo allows you to copy last years settings to this year. I guess the trade deadline didn't carry over and once I clicked the button to accept last years info, I didn't get a screen to check it when I set the league up.

It was supposed to be the latest date possible

471

Great One
ID: 4778411
Fri, Aug 07, 2009, 09:33

Yeah, I don't think anyone really wanted it that early, so no problem there. There is still a lot of activity to occur in the next 3 weeks! and even after that a full month+ to go in the season.

472

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Fri, Aug 07, 2009, 13:52

Holt (468) - you are correct. I dropped him, by the way.

473

holt
ID: 25758720
Fri, Aug 07, 2009, 22:35

hahahaa
Well here comes the no-hitter then.

If that guy could just get some semblance of control over his pitches. It's unbelievable. Worst control in the league right now.

474

blue hen
ID: 8115717
Sat, Aug 08, 2009, 00:09

Close, Holt. Olly only gave up two hits tonight.

475

holt
ID: 407521121
Tue, Aug 11, 2009, 22:52

How can you Phillies fans stand it? Rooting for the Phils to beat the Cubs tonight, Lidge comes in up 3-2, and you just know he's not gonna close it out:

- B. Lidge relieved R. Madson
- K. Fukudome walked
- R. Theriot sacrificed to pitcher, K. Fukudome to second
- M. Bradley singled to right, K. Fukudome scored
- D. Lee struck out swinging, M. Bradley stole second
- J. Fox flied out to deep center
- End of Inning (1 Run, 1 Hit, 0 Errors)

How does this guy still have the closer job? I guess that's why MLB managers make the big bucks. They are able to make brilliant decisions that defy all logic. 7.24 ERA and 1.76 whip - that's even worse than Matt Capps (who should also not be a closer at this point).

476

blue hen
ID: 8115717
Wed, Aug 12, 2009, 01:14

First of all, Lidge has kind of a pass for the next decade or so. And he's still better than Mitch ever was.

Tonight, the walk was the killer. Really started the wheels in motion. The good thing about Lidge is that he generally can get a strikeout when he needs it. But he's needed it plenty this year, and that's the big difference from last year.

477

holt
ID: 407521121
Wed, Aug 12, 2009, 03:55

Glad to see they pulled it out, but Lidge... I don't get to watch many philly games but there is some serious problem with his control. If they go into the playoffs without him making some kind of adjustment, will they really run him out there in the 9th in a 1 run ballgame? If there is no mechanical adjustment to be made I'd be looking for other options right now.

478

Perm Dude
ID: 154552311
Wed, Aug 12, 2009, 10:48

I'm sure the Phillies could have gotten Bob Wickman cheap if they wanted exciting save ops from their closer.

:)

479

Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Wed, Aug 12, 2009, 15:34

How about working Pedro back as a reliever and if he performs well, to make him the closer.

480

barilko6
ID: 07551215
Wed, Aug 12, 2009, 16:55

I thought Pedro's primary weakness in recent years has been his first innings?

481

Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Wed, Aug 12, 2009, 17:17

I think I have heard that too, but when you are a reliever and know you are only in there to pitch one inning, I think that changes the mindset and therefore that statistic doesn't really hold much water.

482

Perm Dude
ID: 154552311
Wed, Aug 12, 2009, 17:39

Yeah, he gave up 23 first inning runs last year in 20 starts. Only 8 of those starts was he able to keep the other team from scoring at least one run in the first.

On the other hand, as a reliever he would be unlikely to be facing the top of the order very often.

483

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Fri, Aug 14, 2009, 13:47

Myers is on the verge of returning. Given the state of the Phillies bull pen, I picked him up in another league hoping that he will close.

484

holt
ID: 56701420
Fri, Aug 14, 2009, 21:27

To whom it may concern,
Yadier Molina just stole another base.

A timely one too. He did it with 2 outs and Brendan Ryan and then the pitcher coming up. Ryan Singled him in. Pure genius?

485

blue hen
ID: 8115717
Sat, Aug 15, 2009, 00:04

Berkman is stuck on 6 steals. This may happen yet.

486

barilko6
ID: 9738156
Sat, Aug 15, 2009, 07:38

If only he didn't get injured...

Good to see The Honkballers making an amazing late season push. Hang in there guys!

487

holt
ID: 587581515
Sat, Aug 15, 2009, 18:04

David Wright beaned by Matt Cain. Of course it was one of BH's pitchers. None of em have a clue where the ball is going. Uncool!

488

blue hen
ID: 8115717
Sat, Aug 15, 2009, 23:07

That's actually part of my strategy - have my pitchers hurt my hitters. In another league, I have Rick Porcello.

489

astade
Sustainer
ID: 214361313
Sat, Aug 15, 2009, 23:37

I'm looking to trade Miguel Cabrera and/or Mark Teixeira. If you have a young skilled keeper (2b,SS, 3B) that you want to move, then hit me up.

490

holt
ID: 1979163
Sun, Aug 16, 2009, 04:16

Wish I had something to offer astade. Unfortunately the only player I have to fit that description is David Wright who was just beaned.

491

Great One
ID: 437132414
Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 10:09

If they are indeed shutting down Johan - I've gotta put him on the trade block. Probably. Lets see what kind of offers are out there...

492

barilko6
ID: 427332511
Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 12:33

Did this league all of a sudden die or what? I have offers out there to 2 different managers for almost a week now with no response. I know they have been checking in because moves/pickups/changes have been made!

493

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 12:45

It's funny how everyone agrees how rude that is and then does it.

494

astade
ID: 226363013
Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 13:28

Trade Announcement:

Da Bomb trades: JA Happ + 2010 5th rd pick
Astade trades: Kevin Correja + 2010 4th rd pick

495

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 13:57

Nice move by Da Bomb. Anyone want Matt Cain?

496

astade
ID: 226363013
Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 14:06

that hurts, bh. remember, only congratulate the mgr that posts the trade ;)

497

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 18:15

I didn't congratulate him; I merely thought it was a nice move, and said so. To be, Happ and Correia are about the same, and he gets a pick out of it.

499

Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 18:32

Re: 494 Confirmed

I don't think Happ and Coreia are in the same league. I actually just picked the player that I thought was one of the weakest on Astade's roster as I only care about the pick upgrade, although Correia has put up some good numbers this year. Deadline is approaching - you too can have a quality player for a simple round upgrade!

500

astade
ID: 226363013
Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 18:45

i was just kidding. i'm just trying to shake things up one last time before the trade deadline in order to make a final run... if it doesn't work, so be it.

501

holt
ID: 14748234
Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 20:07

re 493 I sometimes do that because I'm in a hurry, open a trade, have no idea what to make of it, and plan to get back to it later. If I simply think it's crap then I reject it right away. I don't personally think it's rude for an offer to be left hanging a few days. Makes no difference to me.

502

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Tue, Aug 25, 2009, 21:51

GO-trade offer sent.

503

holt
ID: 377352714
Thu, Aug 27, 2009, 21:05

Adrián Béltre
Status:
DL - Severely contused right testicle

OMG - I can't believe this is the first I've heard of this.

504

Perm Dude
ID: 154552311
Thu, Aug 27, 2009, 21:09

From Rotowire:

Guys, you might not want to read the details on this one. Beltre took a one-hopper to the groin area in the ninth inning Wednesday, yet managed to play out the remainder of the 14-inning game. However, he may now need surgery due to bleeding in the testicle, which would put him out indefinitely.

It actually looks like he'll be back soon, since he avoided the surgery.

505

astade
Sustainer
ID: 214361313
Fri, Aug 28, 2009, 10:17

Trade Announcement:

Barilko6 (aka The Honkballers) trades: Berkman + Cano + Johnson + Rodriguez

Astade trades: Teixeira + Bard

506

barilko6
ID: 2737289
Fri, Aug 28, 2009, 10:37

Yeah...blockbuster trade!

Been working on getting a top keeper for awhile and many emails went out to many managers.

I think I undervalued Cano after looking back at his stats, but Berkman worried me. K-Rod is what he is, and will get solid stats from a closer. Johnson has a chance to be good, but I can't keep both him and Vazquez. Maybe I should have kept Johnson.

But Teixeira adds a huge bat to my team, power stats, amazing after recovering from a slow NY start.

Even trade as Astade makes a push for this year, and I look to shorten my keeper list with a stud for next year.

507

barilko6
ID: 367282812
Fri, Aug 28, 2009, 13:28

Come on Blue Hen, not even an appearance to make fun of this deal?

Hey, with Berkman being dealt, I wonder if he will start to steal more bases to impress his new team.

508

astade
ID: 226363013
Fri, Aug 28, 2009, 13:37

that would be nice ;)

509

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Fri, Aug 28, 2009, 17:00

Astade wins.

Ok fine, I see exactly where both of you were going with this, and it's actually similar to deals I was looking for with Pujols, albeit with worse players. It really hinges on Berkman, because at his best, he's about akin to Teixeira. But he hasn't been there in a while.

510

Perm Dude
ID: 154552311
Fri, Aug 28, 2009, 18:23

And never will again, despite his speed.

511

astade
Sustainer
ID: 214361313
Fri, Aug 28, 2009, 22:45

barilko, I hope you are enjoying the parting presents my guys are giving you...soon you'll see their boxscore highlights help me ;)

512

Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Sat, Aug 29, 2009, 20:46

The deal between GO and me involves my 15th round pick in exchange for his 14th.

513

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Fri, Sep 04, 2009, 11:01

Go-Thanks for picking up Morales. I am in 1st in RIBC AA, and just barely holding on. He was available in my league, and any additional saves that he gives me will help.

514

Great One
ID: 13842213
Fri, Sep 04, 2009, 11:06

I've got like 6 closers now! whohoo!!
I'm still amazed at how many HR's this team has hit when I don't really feel like I have many true HR hitters outside of Prince.

515

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Fri, Sep 04, 2009, 13:22

6 closers. Were you playing defense?

516

Great One
ID: 13842213
Fri, Sep 04, 2009, 13:32

Thankfully Morales is SP eligible or I wouldn't have bothered adding him. I only have 1 more point I can earn in saves anyway. I just love having all these crappy closers, its the best.

517

Great One
ID: 24723111
Sat, Sep 05, 2009, 00:45

If I keep getting 4 saves per night, maybe I will make up more than a point! lol...

518

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Sat, Sep 05, 2009, 08:26

Well Morales did get another save last night. This was my 1st keeper league, and I handled the draft poorly, especially with closers. Our trade also hurt me. I am happy with the Howard->Fielder leg, but the Pedroia->Rollins part killed me. Next season I hope/expect to do better.

519

barilko6
ID: 9831512
Sat, Sep 05, 2009, 13:31

Wow, I might have made the trade at just the right time:

Berkman unsure of baseball future from MLB.com

"I'm going to play next year because I'm under contract, and if they pick up the option, we'll see where I'm at after that year," he said. "That's kind of how I'm viewing it."

"I don't think that's fair to the team or to me," he said. "If I'm not going to perform a level I'm comfortable with, I'm not going to play. I'm going to play next year because I'm obligated to play. I'm going to give as a good of an effort as I can, and see what happens. If I have a good year and they pick the option up, I'll be committed for another year.

"I don't want to hang around. I don't want to hamstring the organization, and I don't want to take away from my family and things like that. If I'm not as productive as I want to be, I'll take it to the house."

520

Astade
ID: 38542218
Sat, Sep 05, 2009, 18:33

I heard Teixeira blew out his knee...

521

Great One
ID: 258888
Thu, Sep 10, 2009, 10:31

Berkman 7 SB's

522

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Thu, Sep 10, 2009, 11:03

Damn, talk about drama. Whoever set the over/under at 8 is smart.

523

barilko6
ID: 32861010
Thu, Sep 10, 2009, 11:07

And whoever took the over is brilliant! Berkman always gets his SB's in bunches...so sit back and enjoy the running demonstration!

524

Perm Dude
ID: 154552311
Thu, Sep 10, 2009, 12:47

I just want to get out of the basement...

525

Great One
ID: 258888
Thu, Sep 10, 2009, 15:30

Thats what she said.

526

holt
ID: 308491916
Mon, Sep 21, 2009, 01:52

totally unrelated to this league but how in the world is yadi molina 9 for 11 in sb attempts this year? Imagine what the vegas odds would have been on that!

527

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Sat, Sep 26, 2009, 12:56

GO-Very impressive climb into 1st place, whether or not you finish there.-l

528

holt
ID: 308491916
Sat, Sep 26, 2009, 16:48

just wanted to make things interesting.

529

holt
ID: 308491916
Sun, Sep 27, 2009, 16:06

what's up with yahoo? still not updated from yesterday.

530

Great One
ID: 49852811
Mon, Sep 28, 2009, 16:13

They seem to slow down on the weekends during football season each year... too much volume perhaps, unless its just a coincidence.

531

barilko6
ID: 5593746
Sun, Oct 04, 2009, 07:40

My team really pushed hard the last month and has vaulted me into 3rd. Hopefully I can hang on there and finish in the money!

On September 28th Lance tried to get that 8th SB, but was gunned down. Let's hope he gets it today!

532

astade
Sustainer
ID: 214361313
Sun, Oct 04, 2009, 20:58

unbelievable finish barilko! A few months ago, I saw that I was close to finishing in the top 3 so I decided to pull of a few trades to improve my pitching and spread out my offensive arsenal (not put all my 'eggs' in one basket). Once I passed Tree, I thought I pretty much had #3 locked down. I went back and looked at the past month's stats and aside from a weak performance from my OF and a few SP, I don't think my team underachieved. I just got beat my a better team. Congrats to you and GO/Holt as well.

533

blue hen
ID: 8115717
Sun, Oct 04, 2009, 21:40

Great season guys. I had a great start, but couldn't hold on in the end. I had a lot of early overachievers and a lot of late underachievers, and that's a recipe for disaster in a league like this. But at least my keepers are in pretty good shape.

Barilko, Lance got picked off in that game, and almost got ejected trying to call it a balk. Sorry about your prediction; I guess you just shouldn't mess with Blue Hen.

I'll be back later to wrap up the season, much as I want to forget about the latter part of it.

534

loki
SuperDude
ID: 4211201420
Mon, Oct 05, 2009, 08:27

First off, thanks to the league for inviting me this year. I agree with Holt that it was a great season, and I enjoyed the competition. As you know, I was a keeper league rookie and made rookie mistakes with my keepers and in the draft. The most glaring one was ignoring the save category which effectively prevented a top 3 finish, but I did manage to climb from last to 4th place. I am looking forward to 2010. On another note, I was able to finish 1st in RIBC AA and if Guru follows his same rules, I should be in RIBC next year. Will any of the Dirty Dozen be there?

535

holt
ID: 308491916
Mon, Oct 05, 2009, 14:05

congrats GO, well played. you are the champion my friend, and you will keep fighting til the end.

my team stunk it up the past 2 weeks. Actually, I stunk it up, as I kept benching great performances night after night. Just 11 more RBI would have gotten me and extra 4 points...

Really I feel happy just finishing in the money. I think my team had 1's in almost every category about a month into the season. My hitting this season was weak. I think I had 1 single player that I gave over 500 AB's. Lots of platooning.

Luckily for me, my starting 4 of Lincecum, Carpenter, Kershaw, and Jurrjens spotted me enough points that I could still have a good year with such a crap lineup. My team MVP's would be Lincecum and Matt Holliday, which is funny because I was benching Holliday a lot when he was with the A's. I was *this* close to cutting him several times...

Looking at my team log, here are my team leaders:
Russell Branyan 23 HR
David Wright 85 R
Matt Holliday 96 RBI
David Wright 27 SB
Ichiro .350 BA

Chris Carpenter 17 W
Joe Nathan 47 Sv
Tim Lincecum 261 K
Chis Carpenter 2.24 ERA
Chris Carpenter 1.01 Whip

Branyan leading my team in HR is just sad, and funny.

Lookin forward to next season, with a very different list of keepers. I'll be in RIBC loki; finished third there this season.

536

Great One
ID: 49852811
Tue, Oct 06, 2009, 09:17

Loki - I ignore saves til I can find them for cheap or nothing and look where it got me!

Holt - tough finish, I actually didn't think I'd catch you with all my pitching imploding. Glad I didn't trade Johan either when i could have. Just picked up the Arroyo's, Duensing's and Lowe's of the world to fill in for him down the stretch and got lucky they performed. I'm gonna have to move one of CC, Beckett, Lester or Johan this offseason so keep an eye out anyone looking for pitching.

It was a freaking battle trying to find SB's. My team was hitting HR's left and right when I didn't need them anymore and my SB guys quit running. Its funny too because the only "power hitter" I drafted or carried over was Prince. Nyjer Morgan was supposed to fix that and then he went down.

537

Great One
ID: 49852811
Tue, Oct 06, 2009, 09:21

Holy crap - Barilko got third?! haha...

Everyone was paid so I'll take my winnings over from paypal and then I've got 35 for Holt and 25 for Barilko. You guys want to take 10 out first for next year? Barilko I can roll your +15 into F101 too.

538

barilko6
ID: 5493668
Tue, Oct 06, 2009, 09:36

Holy Crap?!?! That is almost an insult GO! Come on, is that much of a surprise that I can draft a team to finish third???? hahaha

Roll mine over for sure.

That Teixeira trade actually helped me out, he put up very nice numbers, and the FA's that I picked up to fill the spots of the other guys I traded gave great numbers too. I know I gave up a whack of talent in that deal, so I think it was a win/win for both me and Astade.

Its funny, one morning I get an email from GO blasting me for picking up Kaz Matsui so late in the season, saying it was going to cost him first place, as he was just about to snag him. At the time I was in 6th I think, and I told him I was still gunning for third. I can now say Kaz Matsui is my lucky charm.

Congrats to GO and Holt, it was a fun year!

539

Great One
ID: 49852811
Tue, Oct 06, 2009, 10:35

Alright, $10 credit for 2010 DD dues and +15 over to F101.

540

Great One
ID: 49852811
Tue, Oct 06, 2009, 10:40

Yeah, that was an error I made, I had Kaz ready to add one night. Then decided to wait til the next morning to not throw away a game from Carlos Guillen before dropping him (Kaz was off that day). Which considering I didn't need HR's/RBI's didn't make much sense... and then Guillen was facing Grienke anyway and went 0-3.

I get up at 7:00 AM to add him before work and Barilko already did! Jerk.

541

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Tue, Oct 06, 2009, 13:10

I continue to be impressed by managers who win a lot in every league. I think Holt is probably the one guy I would never bet against in any league, and Great One is the best waiver wire worker I've seen. And Barilko has a lot of that no quit in him as well.

In the end, this turned into a very disappointing DD season, and I think Bedard and Billingsley are the two to blame, as they were awful/hurt after strong starts.

I also made a bunch of other mistakes, like Dioner Navarro and then when I wised up getting a done Bengie Molina.

All told, a pretty sorry season, but I'm pretty happy with my keepers right now.

542

Great One
ID: 49852811
Tue, Oct 06, 2009, 13:18

I somehow won both this league and Lucky 13 (and 2nd in my work league) while closing on a house and moving the last month so it was definitely difficult. Not to mention the overlapping NFL drafts and what not. Baseball 101 is the only place I faltered and wound up 4th there I think which I was surprised at with a Barilko like finish.

543

Great One
ID: 49852811
Tue, Oct 06, 2009, 14:37

Is there ever gonna be enough support to change this league from AVG to OBP? I'm retiring from Lucky 13 and its gonna stink having only AVG leagues (B101, DD) remaining other than G24.

544

Great One
ID: 49852811
Tue, Oct 06, 2009, 14:39

Also, I'm interested in taking a look at maybe adding a couple categories - one hitting, one pitching for a "Dirty Dozen" of categories.

For hitting I was going to propose Doubles + Triples which I believe is an option we used in my work league. It was a really fun category. The problem as usual is finding a good pitching category to match. And I don't think I want Holds cause that adds a whole different element to things.

545

Perm Dude
ID: 438132822
Tue, Oct 06, 2009, 14:42

I'd certainly support a change away from AVG.

I'm not sure about the doubles + triples thing--sounds gimicky. Does Yahoo offer a net steals option? I've seen that elsewhere which is steal attempts - caught stealing.

546

Great One
ID: 49852811
Tue, Oct 06, 2009, 14:42

And per the above, Da Bomb, Barilko and BH all appeared to be in favor of another UT or IF spot added to the starting lineup.

547

barilko6
ID: 1940613
Tue, Oct 06, 2009, 14:43

I don't know. I know I am disliking the Lucky 13 league because its OBP.

I love the 10 categories, and would be hesitant to add to it, especially with this being a keeper league and having players geared towards current settings.

548

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Tue, Oct 06, 2009, 15:09

Actually, this is my only straight 5x5 league and I'm fine keeping it that way. That said, I definitely support 2B+3B or some other ways to pump up Billy Butler.

I absolutely don't want holds or losses or net steals, personally.

And while I'd be fine adding one more hitter, I'm fine keeping it this way. This is my "shallow" league and that's kind of the point.

I'd also be ecstatic if someone else would bring up the idea of switching to ESPN.

549

Great One
ID: 065867
Tue, Oct 06, 2009, 15:11

Just throwing it all out there while its fresh in our heads.

550

Great One
ID: 065867
Tue, Oct 06, 2009, 15:19

We'll be having a later keeper deadline and draft his year than in the past, due to more keepers and kafenatid making for a shorter draft.

I'll put ESPN in the vote. I also will put Net Steals idea in a vote as well. We can vote on all this while we are still 11 (no Khahan) since it'll give us a tiebreaker anyway.

551

Great One
ID: 065867
Tue, Oct 06, 2009, 15:21

clarify-we are not adding more keepers, we did like two years ago(?) but its left us finishing the draft (and declaring keepers) way too early.

552

holt
ID: 308491916
Tue, Oct 06, 2009, 16:11

GO, yeah just hold 10 of that for next year.

553

holt
ID: 308491916
Tue, Oct 06, 2009, 16:17

I'd be ok with converting to ribc style scoring (OBP and SLG in favor of BA and HR). I'd also be ok with keeping it the traditional 5x5.

554

astade
Sustainer
ID: 214361313
Tue, Oct 06, 2009, 21:17

if it ain't don't broke, don't fix it. my 2 cents.

555

Tree
ID: 248472317
Tue, Oct 06, 2009, 22:03

yea, i'm pretty heavily opposed to a change, unless we're talking 3 seasons into the future.

we've maintained keepers based on a certain set of stats, and to change them now wouldn't change the dynamic completely.

556

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Wed, Oct 07, 2009, 12:07

True, I have Adam Dunn so of course I'm in favor of moving to OBP. Tree is right - doing this for 2010 seems like a bad idea.

557

Tree
ID: 248472317
Wed, Oct 07, 2009, 15:34

and to change them now wouldn't change the dynamic completely.

obviously, i meant "would". at least BH knew what i was talking about. lol

558

Great One
ID: 44937714
Wed, Oct 07, 2009, 15:40

Alright, lets throw out guys we have and what not. Do you think a league that has OBP is better than AVG? Cause if thats the case, then I'll make the proposal to transition to that by 2011 or 2012.

I personally hate AVG cause to me a walk is as good as a hit and to go 0-2 with 3 walks and in this format it tells me I had a bad day. And to me, thats just not accurate.

559

Perm Dude
ID: 438132822
Wed, Oct 07, 2009, 15:54

2011 for the OBP. There's no real reason not to do it now, but I'm certainly willing to go along with a transition of a year while waiting for those few guys who have high averages but low OBP to get on the stick.

Adam Dunn had a very good year in 2009, doing better in AVG by 20 points (while only 16 points better than career average in OBP).

560

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Wed, Oct 07, 2009, 15:56

PD, we're not comparing Dunn to himself; we're comparing him to the league. At .270, he is average. At .250 he is bad.

But at .390 he is very good, and at .410 he is great.

561

Perm Dude
ID: 438132822
Wed, Oct 07, 2009, 16:04

So he's average in one category (or even below), but he's got 38 dingers and 105 ribbies.

Once you get past the top 4-5 guys, players are always a trade off. And guys who you would typically shy away from because of low OBP are the ones you'd shy away from for BA as well (sometimes more so).

562

barilko6
ID: 23922715
Wed, Oct 07, 2009, 16:22

Re: 561

I don't know about that PD, there are a lot of guys out there who get pretty good AVG rates that are terrible in OBP.

563

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Wed, Oct 07, 2009, 16:40

Wrong. Cristian Guzman has an above average batting average and a (far) below average OBP. Adding OBP takes Dunn from a 4th or 5th keeper to a 2nd keeper. That's a pretty big difference. And while I'd love to have the value of my player increased, it's not fair.

564

Da Bomb
ID: 77332513
Wed, Oct 07, 2009, 17:18

Obviously a dissapointing year for me after guiding my team to 4 straight top 2 finishes, but not much I could've done when my keepers got decimated by injuries.

Re: 546 - Definitely interested in adding another UTIL slot. There was a lot of talent on the free agent list most times.

565

Tree
ID: 248472317
Wed, Oct 07, 2009, 17:53

count me as opposed to switching from Avg. to OBP.

I personally hate AVG cause to me a walk is as good as a hit and to go 0-2 with 3 walks and in this format it tells me I had a bad day. And to me, thats just not accurate.

man on third, two outs. would you rather have 3 singles, or 2 walks?

quite frankly, i'm lazy. all my roto-style leagues use Avg. I don't want to have to start keeping track of something differently.

566

Great One
ID: 1790513
Wed, Oct 07, 2009, 19:55

We could switch to OBP, BH would have an extra stud keeper in Dunn... but he still couldn't beat me! oh! offseason smack talk!

567

barilko6
ID: 299788
Thu, Oct 08, 2009, 09:07

I would be opposed to OBP and adding extra categories.

I would be very in favour of adding an extra utility spot. And yes I spelled favour the Canadian way. Eh.

568

holt
ID: 308491916
Thu, Oct 08, 2009, 15:41

I can understand wanting to keep HR and BA due to the fact that they are traditional. On that basis, I don't have a prob with people wanting to continue using those stats. On the flip-side, I doubt that anyone can make a persuasive argument that HR and BA are better than SLG and OBP when determining a players true value to a team.

Thing is, roto ball by its very nature is bad at determining which of our teams really has the best group of players, so I'm not sure how much it matters what categories we use.

569

Great One
ID: 44937714
Thu, Oct 08, 2009, 16:15

We should add an Intangibles category. Who has Jeter?

570

barilko6
ID: 11936823
Fri, Oct 09, 2009, 00:36

Come on, everybody knows that when you are talking intangibles, it goes Jeter, who is then followed by anyone who was born in Canada.

Larry Walker
Matt Stairs
Justin Morneau
Oopsie Daisy
Ferguson Jenkins
Stubby Clapp
Russell Martin

Those guys are covered in intangibles.

571

holt
ID: 308491916
Fri, Oct 09, 2009, 01:42

an intangibles category, that would rock.

572

holt
ID: 308491916
Fri, Oct 16, 2009, 00:56

you still have my address GO or should I email it?

573

Great One
ID: 4778411
Fri, Oct 16, 2009, 09:28

You don't have Paypal, do you? I need to move $ out of there, cause thats where I keep treasury.

574

blue hen
Dude
ID: 710321114
Fri, Oct 16, 2009, 11:09

Don't forget the polkaroo. He has almost as many intangibles as Jeter.

Not for DD, but I'd love to see an intangibles league. Points for web gems, for your team winning, double points for suspensions, etc.

575

holt
ID: 308491916
Fri, Oct 16, 2009, 18:17

yeah I have paypal - i'll email you

576

holt
ID: 427111315
Thu, Jan 21, 2010, 10:59

Hey guys. Just checking in on when the keeper declaration date is this year.

577

Great One
ID: 46051211
Thu, Jan 21, 2010, 11:49

This year will be much later than in the past now that I'm handling commish duties. Opening Day is Sunday April 4th, so to me - no need for keepers until a month before that at the earliest. Our draft only takes a couple weeks. So lets tentatively say Sunday Feb 28th, starting the draft (without a timer) on Monday March 1st after I get all the keepers punched into Kafenatid. That should wrap things up about a week before the season starts.

We also need to find a new manager to take over Khahan's spot. He left a pretty good squad behind.

578

Khahan
ID: 13126822
Mon, Feb 08, 2010, 23:26

Hey guys, just an fyi, Little Weasel has informed he is not participating in fantasy baseball this year. I'm not sure if he has the board address anymore or not or would remember to check in.

579

astade
Sustainer
ID: 214361313
Tue, Feb 09, 2010, 23:51

Khahan, that is too bad.

Thanks for participating Little Weasel, hopefully you can chime in and tell us how great we were ;)

580

barilko6
ID: 11110106
Wed, Feb 10, 2010, 07:10

haha....great post Astade!

581

barilko6
ID: 281141610
Tue, Feb 16, 2010, 11:14

My predicted order of finish for this year:

1. Barilko6
2. Who Cares they aren't number 1
3. See Above
4. Who Cares they aren't number 1
5. One of the new guys
6. Tree
7. Who Cares
8. Who Cares
9. Who Cares
10. Who Cares
11. Who Cares
12. Who Cares

582

blue hen
ID: 8115717
Sat, Feb 20, 2010, 20:23

I'll take the under.

583

slizz-bberry
ID: 381362019
Sat, Feb 20, 2010, 20:36

Lol. I love the fact Tree gets some respect as opposed to a "who cares"

584

Great One
ID: 15156520
Sun, Feb 21, 2010, 11:46

Captain Crunch needs to start making SlizzBerries!

585

Great One
ID: 15156520
Sun, Feb 21, 2010, 11:48

Crap, quit using this thread too, use the one in the regular Baseball Forum.

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