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Subject: Serious Biz '05?
Posted by: Great One
- [95201914] Wed, Jul 13, 2005, 18:16
I am in. Great group last year... lets get the ball rolling and check in. |
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238 | Toral
ID: 541029611 Wed, Nov 30, 2005, 08:27
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On a serious note, of course eliminated teams should continue to try to improve their teams, through the WW. We have an open WW and always should, and if an eliminated team can scarf up a suddenly desirable QB, or whatever, they should. But not thru trading, after eliminated. I guess I lose this argument 11-1.
I wished to add to my comment that you all are crazy: that's why I joined, or applied to join, in the first place.
After I take the title, all will be forgiven and forgotten. Well, accept for the fact that I won. I won't let anybody forget that.
Toral
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239 | Khahan
ID: 239483116 Wed, Nov 30, 2005, 09:04
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Toral, I think you may stand alone in your belief that eliminated teams should not be making trades.
I'll go so far as to say that trades made by eliminated teams maybe need to have a close eye kept on them. But in this case, I don't see a problem with the trade itself.
As pointed out above, Stuck has an improved team and can now possibly play a spoiler roll. I have not looked at who plays who this week to know if that's even a possibility.
I'd like to know why eliminated teams should not be allowed to trade. All that does is take players out of the pool of options.
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240 | Toral
ID: 541029611 Wed, Nov 30, 2005, 09:10
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I'd like to know why eliminated teams should not be allowed to trade.
I recognize that my opinion is not shared here. I'm not going to argue just to be argumentative.
I'll just leave it as is.
Toral
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241 | Tree Sustainer
ID: 599393013 Wed, Nov 30, 2005, 10:39
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I'm not going to argue just to be argumentative.
who are you, and what did you do with the real Toral!?!? ;o)
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242 | Khahan
ID: 239483116 Wed, Nov 30, 2005, 11:17
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No problem, Toral. I actually wasn't looking for an argument. Was just honestly curious as to your reasons.
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243 | Toral
ID: 541029611 Wed, Nov 30, 2005, 11:26
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Great line, Tree.
I have reasons but I'd like to regard the issue as closed. If you're really interested, remind either here or on the Yahoo! site about 3 weeks from now when the issue is moot. The reasons have nothing to do with individuals, just to make that clear. To me they are obvious and apply to any non-keeper league. Stating them now might seem like I was denigrating eliminated teams.
Toral
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244 | Khahan
ID: 239483116 Wed, Nov 30, 2005, 11:32
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No problem Toral. But I do have 1 question about the league....why is everybody set for a bye this week?
Shouldn't we all play this week and have the playoffs start next week after 8 teams have played through and clinched?
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245 | TB Sherpa
ID: 031811922 Wed, Nov 30, 2005, 20:17
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It lists everyone for a bye next week and that is because the play-off match-ups are not set until after this week.
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246 | TB Sherpa
ID: 031811922 Wed, Nov 30, 2005, 20:20
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GO's Angelic Diablo vs TB Novas Superstars vs Stuck60 Dragon Army vs Frickin Idiots Khahan's Killers vs -S- Untouchables vs Feed TOs Family Strong's Backbreaker vs 3rd String QBs
That is what I see on the league page for this weeks games.
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247 | Khahan
ID: 239483116 Wed, Nov 30, 2005, 20:56
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TB, now I see the same thing you have posted for pairings. However, earlier in the day, this week match ups were all byes for everyone. Guess they just had a yahoo.
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248 | TB Sherpa
ID: 031811922 Wed, Nov 30, 2005, 21:22
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I saw a message that looked like they had some issues, so I bet you are right.
If you made changes to your line-up for the upcoming week, you will want to log on and make sure they took.
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249 | Stuck in the 60s Dude
ID: 274132811 Thu, Dec 01, 2005, 08:15
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Good grief!
Like most managers, I play in lots of leagues and tend to concentrate on the ones I have a chance of winning. In this league, injuries have decimated a team I thought might be competitive as the season began.
Toral -- your resident fool here would suggest that if you don't want eliminated managers to trade, you take away their incentive to post a relevant starting lineup. To make your fantasy life a bit easier, however, I'll make it a point not to play in leagues where you field a team.
What we all complain about is managers deserting losing teams. As long as trades are made in good faith, there should be no problem.
If someone can point out how this trade was unfair to anyone, please speak now. I wanted an NFL starter at QB. What I got wasn't much, but it was considerably better than what I had. And I certainly didn't give away the store. In fact, I turned down two other trades that week.
Don
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250 | Tree Sustainer
ID: 599393013 Thu, Dec 01, 2005, 09:10
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my big issue with this trade is that it didn't end up with LT2 and Carson Palmer in my line up...
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251 | Toral
ID: 541029611 Thu, Dec 01, 2005, 11:08
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I hopye you'll be back for nest year, Stuck. You were here first. If no one else has problems with eliminated teams trading, I'm not going to worry about it. I should look around again and see if I can make some deals. I didn't make any offers to elinated teams and so there might be a deal to me made ought there!. This particular trade is fine by me as far as talent/fairness goes.
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252 | Khahan
ID: 239483116 Mon, Dec 05, 2005, 22:58
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Things are starting to finish up. It looks like Strong's Backbreakers, 3rd string QB's and Feed TO's Family are battling for the final 3 spots.
Good luck you 3.
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253 | Mike D Leader
ID: 041831612 Mon, Dec 05, 2005, 23:02
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Nah, I'm done, unless the defending champ gets a wildcard.
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254 | slosh23
ID: 54857316 Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 01:48
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With Akers not seeing the field it looks like I will beat Tree and not have to face Ender in the first round, whew...
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255 | Tree
ID: 36111465 Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 06:15
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man.
one stinking XP and my seeding would be totally different...grrrr...damn, the eagles are TERRIBLE. i hate you MIKE D!
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256 | Ender
ID: 406351010 Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 07:53
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That was a wild dog fight all season long. I'm glad I was lucky enough to be able to just sit and watch.
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257 | Mike D Leader
ID: 041831612 Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 07:58
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Yeah, I paid big money to have the Eagles get shut out last night......after I explained the scenario, they told me they'd have done it for free. ;)
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258 | Stuck in the 60s Dude
ID: 274132811 Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 08:24
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Good luck all
Don
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259 | Toral
ID: 541029611 Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 09:11
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By far the closest league and most even competition I've ever seen.
The only guy who ruined it was Ender, by putting up double-digit wins.
Take 2 wins away from Ender and give one each to Novas and Frick and you have the most amazingly balanced league of all time.
For those of us who were fighting our way through that thick foliage jungle, it was a thing of beauty anyway.
Toral
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260 | Mike D Leader
ID: 41831612 Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 10:09
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Yeah and didn't Frick have Culpepper? A healthy Culpepper would have made a difference. I know we all have our sob stories (Deuce, McNabb, Bulger, Boldin, Roy Williams, ok I'll stop there!), but Frick with Culpepper could have been big.
Nice job Toral on overcoming the lost of Priest, even though he played a chunk of the season, and then Dillon as well. Nice job GO overcoming a QB-less draft in a 2 QB league, and ovecoming a big hangover the next morning (lol). Nice job Khahan dealing with TO and Ahman Green, and even Horn. Make sure to send Frick a Christmas card (lol).
And GO----Steve Smith with the 56th pick. All I have to say about that.
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261 | Frick@Work Donor
ID: 3410101718 Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 11:05
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Actually I think Culpeppers injury helped me, at least I wasn't starting him and ending up with less than 5 points or a negative. This league is brutal, especially since I now have 3 small kids and don't get to sit and watch many games, I'm lucky to see most of the Colts games. I tried to make a run at the end of the season to sneak into the play-offs, but came up a little short.
I actually think I did ok considering my draft was pretty bad. S. Jackson was a great pick and Larry Johnson in R11 might have been the pick of he draft, but Culpepper in R1, JJ Arrington in R4, Andre Johnson in R5, NE D in R6, Stokley in R7, Stallworthless in R8 and E. Johnson in R9 were truely awful picks.
What did everyone think of the 2QB league, I enjoyed it as something different and it prevents the standard 2 rounds of RBs and the occasional QB or WR from being taken.
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262 | Toral
ID: 541029611 Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 11:26
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2 QB league -- fun. Easy for me to say because neither of my QB picks was injured. No wonder I enjoyed this league so much! I didn't notice any big QB injuries around the league -- Mike D, others, have any big QB injuries? I thought not ;) I didn't see any myself. (Nor any big RB injuries. Holmes? Who is he? Don't remember the name. I always try to field a good full team, one way or another.)
OTOH my strategy of picking up Carr early as a sure-fire QB3 caused consternation in the draft and I thought it was real smart. Boy, how much was I offered by GO for Carr. Basically "Anything you want or need, it can be arranged." And then Carr totally sucked. Couldn't trade him. Have thought for about 6 weeks of just releasing him, wondered if anyone would bother to pick him up.
But as to the concept -- yeah, I like it. Better to have to scour the WW for QBs than for RBs and WRs like everywhere else.
Oh, before I forget -- this league has way too short a bench. Way too short. I would add 4.
OK, no one will agree -- so let's compromise. Add 2 or just 1 next year. Please.
Toral
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263 | Frick@Work Donor
ID: 3410101718 Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 12:02
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I agree that we need a slightly expanded bench, but not 4, unless you want to be next years MadDog and grab every QB each week and hold them hostage.
Injuries are a part of the game, but the mad grabs for QBs was maddening, especially when teams decide "Hey, even though player X is 3rd on the depth chart, will give him the start of #2."
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264 | wiggs Donor
ID: 04991311 Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 16:36
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I had my extra win, it was stolen from me with a 50 point night out of Seattle defense. No, I am not bitter, well, maybe alittle.
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265 | Khahan
ID: 239483116 Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 17:35
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Wiggs, I believe you stole an extra win from me...say around week 7 (81.86 vs 81.20 for the final).
For next year, I think we need to add back that wr/rb flex spot. In an odd way, I think it helps when you have a weak position. There were quite a few weeks that my RBs just plain sucked (well, ok, that was almost every week), but being able to use my depth at WR would have been a great asset to me.
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266 | wiggs Donor
ID: 04991311 Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 19:02
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Khahan, I know i squeeked one out against you, but I didnt drop a 50 on you from a from a team that has only scored 120 the other 12 games.
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267 | TB
ID: 37373017 Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 19:06
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It is already making my head hurt with people saying they liked having 2 QB's. Doh!
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268 | wiggs Donor
ID: 04991311 Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 19:32
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I agree with TB, my team was a merry go round rotating in new qbs each week. Or I should say, rotating in new weak qbs each week.
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269 | TB Sherpa
ID: 031811922 Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 01:01
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LOL
We will, of course, vote on any changes for next year and go with whatever the majority decides. I didn't like the two QB's, because some weeks the match-ups looked very unbalanced. With a season of 2 QB's under everyone's belt, it should balance itself out a bit more next year if we stick with it. Hopefully, we can keep the same group together again. This year was great.
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270 | Stuck in the 60s Dude
ID: 274132811 Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 07:50
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Having two QBs definitely changes the draft strategy and is probably a good idea just because it forces you to think differently.
Don
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271 | Great One Sustainer
ID: 053272014 Sun, Dec 11, 2005, 22:42
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I wouldn't even attempt to rate my draft due to the QB disaster :)
I guess I did have Steve Smith pegged right though cause I would imagine me taking him in the 5th round had to be higher than most people would have expected him to go (I think).
But then 6/7/8?! god... Baltimore D, Coles and Vinatieri. I tried a strategy of locking up TE/D/K etc early on and it didn't really work out.
I got pummelled for moving Moss for Horn/Roelisberger which worked out ok.
TB - re post 229 - guess you are glad I made my team weaker by adding Cadillac and moving Anderson lol... weird how that worked out so beautifully and against you nonetheless. Hopefully Vick can finish it off tomorrow. With my luck he will come down with a stomach flu and take the night off... good luck either way.
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272 | TB Sherpa
ID: 031811922 Sun, Dec 11, 2005, 23:00
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I don't have live-scoring, but am guessing you are kicking my butt. Obviously, I didn't expect Williams to do so well against Carolina. Fortunate it turned out well for you in case I wanted to gloat over reversed circumstances. I think you already gave me two losses this year so a third wouldn't be too surprising.
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273 | Great One Sustainer
ID: 053272014 Mon, Dec 12, 2005, 17:47
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I believe I am 15 behind with Vick + Horn... the way my luck has gone in my other leagues I would expect these two take the night off and you hang on to the lead :)
Good luck.
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274 | Khahan
ID: 239483116 Mon, Dec 12, 2005, 17:51
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Well, it seems my season is over. To those of you who picked me as the pre-season team to beat...thanks.
I did make the playoffs, even if I didn't get very far.
heh, I can't even bitch sour grapes and complain that my team let me down. Toral just plain beat me this week. Good week and good luck in the future Toral.
I'll remember this for next season.
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275 | Ender
ID: 285713 Tue, Dec 13, 2005, 11:48
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Wow, just squeaked by this weekend.
I love my Colts, but I hope this weekend is a shootout with Indy coming out on top. I need a big weekend from LT.
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276 | Toral
ID: 541029611 Fri, Dec 23, 2005, 18:35
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The excitement over this World Championship game is clearly reaching a fever pitch ;)
Who has a prediction?
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277 | Great One Sustainer
ID: 053272014 Fri, Dec 23, 2005, 20:34
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I'm taking Ender...
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278 | Toral
ID: 541029611 Fri, Dec 23, 2005, 21:00
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Ok, who has a different prediction....
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279 | Mike D Leader
ID: 041831612 Sat, Dec 24, 2005, 18:04
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Me. I feel LT will be shut down, with him being dinged up an all. And Santana Moss will be huge......
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280 | Great One Sustainer
ID: 053272014 Sun, Dec 25, 2005, 10:17
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Congrats to Toral.
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281 | Ender
ID: 406351010 Sun, Dec 25, 2005, 10:55
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Yikes. It would have been nice if I'd have at least shown up for my own title game. guys would have to be huge today and I just don't see it swinging my way.
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282 | Mike D Leader
ID: 041831612 Sun, Dec 25, 2005, 11:47
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Looks like I'll win my other league because the other dude had LT. I think that will be the fantasy story of the year, unfortunately.
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283 | Great One Sustainer
ID: 053272014 Sun, Dec 25, 2005, 12:48
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No kidding, my biggest money league LT let me down big time.
I finish the regular season in first in 3 of 5 leagues and come away with 0 first place playoff finishes. Horrible football season for me..
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284 | Toral
ID: 541029611 Mon, Dec 26, 2005, 23:08
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I accept your nomination as League Champion.
Thanx all for the great competition.
Special thanx to my lucky charm, last-round draft choice Willie Parker.
Mike D, you can send along the Big Brown Banana, emblematic of league supremacy, any time and I'll hold it till next year ;)
Toral
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285 | TB at bro's
ID: 331153278 Tue, Dec 27, 2005, 10:04
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Congrats Toral. Great season by you and Ender and a fitting championship match. I thought Ender was the clear favorite, but as the old adage suggests, on any given Sunday...err..Saturday and Sunday and Monday.
Hope we can get the same crew together again next year. This is easily one of my more enjoyable leagues.
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286 | -S-
ID: 35725821 Tue, Aug 08, 2006, 22:25
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I'm in, I can draft any night after 6pm.
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287 | Ender
ID: 5963859 Fri, Aug 11, 2006, 09:57
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Wow, I never congratulated Toral? I hope I did it on the Yahoo board and that's why it's not here. If I didn't, Congrats, Toral. Better late than never I suppose :)
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