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Subject: RIFC 2005: Draft Discussion #2
Posted by: Guru
- [330592710] Wed, Aug 24, 2005, 10:36
Time for a new thread. Good progress in the draft so far. We're on pace to finish in plenty of time. |
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325 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 10:28
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OK, I moved the draft along by assigning him "Skip Pick", the backup kicker for Jeff Reed on Pittsburgh. Gotta handcuff those kickers, y'know.
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326 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 10:48
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I started a thread for your general recap of the draft. Please wait until the final 3 picks are made before posting in that thread.
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327 | Ender Donor
ID: 013443221 Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 11:56
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I'll catch up on my rationales after school, sorry. I had about 5 minutes to work with :(
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328 | Doug Leader
ID: 02730280 Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 12:29
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Dammit. I wanted Skip... thought maybe as a free agent.
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329 | I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 41713300 Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 12:57
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and... WERE DONE!
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330 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 13:38
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OK - Here's the schedule.
1. Post your remaining rationales here ASAP.
2. Go to the Fanball site and complete picking up your drafted players. Please do this before midnight tomorrow.
3. If you want to claim any undrafted players, send me an email by midnight on Sunday. I'll process any claims on Monday morning (exact time TBD, but I'll let you know as the day approaches). After that, you may do add/drops on your own. (Until then, hands off - except for picking up your draftees now.)
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331 | Motley Crue Dude
ID: 439372011 Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 13:54
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To be clear, because the option is there right now, if you add anyone via free agency that you didn't draft, IT'S CHEATING.
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333 | Doug Leader
ID: 02730280 Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 14:00
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334 | I_AM_CANADIAN
ID: 41713300 Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 14:52
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Ouch... didn't realize Taxman had so much bye week issues. That's going to hurt a little.
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336 | Bandos Sustainer
ID: 279492419 Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 17:12
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20.11 Bryan Scott, DB, ATL
I had Scott ranked in the top couple of DB’s but I see he made the switch to FS from SS. Not sure what that will do to his close to 100 tackles. I figure I can use him to spell both LB as a flex and my DB. We will see how it works as a roster efficiency move.
21.12 Marcus Robinson, WR, MIN
Minnesota is supposed to be good, right? Daunte, ok too? Well, his bye week sucks which is why I didn’t draft Marcus rounds ago but in the 21st round the WR2 for Minny being available is puzzling. In Chicago he was not a factor as their QB’s kinda sucked. The 21 st round seems like a good round for this kind of high upside pick/ he might be dropped soon to fill bye issues.
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337 | BoNkA
ID: 12811114 Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 17:18
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I think Motley got me confused with Kev in his recap. I didn't take Pitt in the 8th round. If you'd like to give them to me in exchange for the Chiefs, I'd be glad to do so. I'd have all Pennsylvania defenses(I live in PA).
I'll eventually get a recap done. I'll get to criticize myself for the RB and WR groups I drafted and could kill my season.
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338 | Doug Leader
ID: 02730280 Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 19:03
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MC wrote: "Oh, and Doug, when one of your Big 3 go down, and Henry, Anderson, and Mewelde are tearing it up for their respective teams… make your offer real good. It should include at least a pint of blood or a minor bodily organ."
Big 3!?!? I thought I had a Big 2!?!? And a small-but-servicable 1 to go along with...
Ah well, if the unlikely scenario occurs that one of my studs suffers a 5-week-or-more injury while you've simultaneously got 3+ starters "tearing it up for their respective teams", I shall count myself lucky that I still retain my appendix, and thus can include it in my offer it to satisfy the minor bodily organ requirement... I think it qualifies. I didn't read the fine print though.
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339 | TB Sherpa
ID: 031811922 Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 21:11
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Athletics Guy, At QB, I selected Tom Brady. The fantasy manager in me says "This is great!" The Raiders fan says "Why?!" I don't know how I can root for this guy every week. I guess if he helps me win my matchups, I'll be happy. And if he stinks it up real bad, I'll be happy too. So, it's a win/win situation.
LOL- I think I am going to just copy and paste that into my draft recap. I still shake my head left and right that I drafted Brady as my starting QB. It was a fumble.
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340 | Ender
ID: 406351010 Thu, Sep 01, 2005, 21:33
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19.13 Al Wilson LB DEN I felt compelled to have a 3rd LB at this point. I was looking for a guy who gets his share of tackles. Big Al's name stuck out to me because he was solely responsible for one of my losses in another league last year. He had a monster game with a TD return (on a Monday night IIRC), it was absolute torture watching him get the pick and score.
20.02 Josh Brown K SEA IIRC I drafted Jeffy last season as well. I have no particular affinity towards him. It's just that if you wait forever to take a kicker and your one rule is that they have to play in a dome your likely to end up with him I guess.
21.13 Rosevelt Colvin LB NE I was at school. My lists were at home. Colvin went to Purdue. That about sums it up. OK, OK, OK the thought that he may step it up a notch this year with a couple holes in the NE D did pass threw my mind, but that was pretty much a manufactured reason. I just thought it would be cool to have a Boilermaker on both sides of the ball.
I type these up and I just shake my head and laugh. Not because I think I'm a hilarious kind of guy, but because I marvel at how some of you guys can come up with actual analysis and real thought for guys taken beyond the say 17th round. I know, Motley, you took Gates in the 18th round last year (how many times have you slipped that into one of these rationales, we GET it ;)
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341 | Athletics Guy
ID: 87513016 Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 04:38
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LOL TB, that was a tough pick for me. I know how you feel. As much as I love the Raiders, I think Brady is going to have a HUGE game against our defense in the season opener. Hopefully, it will be something like Oakland 42 New England 35. That would be a nice beginning for the Moss Era. :)
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342 | Ender Donor
ID: 013443221 Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 10:36
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Bandos, I totally forgot that my homer post was written under the wrong handle. I was relieved to see someone else forget to change hteir handle back just the other day. I'm not saying I'm not a dork sometimes, it's just a relief to see that I'm not the only one :)
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343 | Motley Crue Dude
ID: 439372011 Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 11:13
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Yeah, I waltzed in and out of threads calling myself "for leggestand" one whole day last week. As if that doesn't sound totally gay.
Not that there's anything wrong with that. But I'm not gay, and I'm not for leggestand.
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344 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 11:25
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Looks like all rationales are in except for several rounds from each of Challenger, leggestand, and Taxman.
Thanks!
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345 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 11:28
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Bandos is the only team with an incomplete roster at Fanball. He still needs 6 players.
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346 | Ender
ID: 26852210 Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 11:55
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Can someone please email a copy of Draft Dominator. I am trying to get on a laptop for a draft tonight. I can't just download to the laptop so I need to receive it via email.
Thanks in advance.
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347 | TB Sherpa
ID: 031811922 Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 12:08
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It is in the send mode right now. 5 MB, so taking a minute to send.
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348 | Ender
ID: 1710131316 Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 12:27
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Thanks, TB. Now all I need is for our network server to come back up :(
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349 | TB Sherpa
ID: 031811922 Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 12:35
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It sent ok. If it doesn't come through or you need anything else, hit me back at my gmail addy and not the one I sent from. I rarely open that email and only use it when sending large files.
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350 | Ender
ID: 1710131316 Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 12:37
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Thanks again. I can access the internet from my desktop, but I have to have server acces first on the laptop. If the server stays down, then I'm hosed. Not that I can't draft without DD, it just tracks everything so well.
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351 | Ender
ID: 1710131316 Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 12:58
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It's there. The server still is not.
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352 | FRICK@Work
ID: 220211 Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 13:45
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Ender, does the laptop have a USB port that you can plug a Memory Stick into?
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353 | Ender
ID: 16856212 Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 13:57
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Frick, I'm allove that option right now :)
I just need it resent to the new address in this post. If someone could resend it I would appreciate it.
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354 | Ender
ID: 16856212 Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 14:09
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What a royal pain in the arse this whole thing has been. It should have been as simple as downloading the file from their site, but that was blocked. That's fine. I half expected that. I didn't expect not being able to download it from the first email address.
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355 | Ender Donor
ID: 013443221 Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 14:28
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OK, duh, just forwarded it to myself from the other address. I'm so annoyed that I can't even think straight. I gave up my whole lunch to get this done.
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356 | Ender Donor
ID: 013443221 Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 14:29
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CRAP! Firewall blocked the stinking email :( I'm still in need of someone to send it to me. It should work as long as it isn't coming from a web email address (like my other one).
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357 | GoatLocker Sustainer
ID: 060151121 Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 14:38
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OK, just sent it. You will need to change the extension from .ppt back to .exe
Looks like it went okay.
Cliff
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358 | Ender Donor
ID: 013443221 Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 14:39
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Thanks, I'll give it a look.
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359 | Ender Donor
ID: 013443221 Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 14:43
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Cliff, it bounced like that too. It appears I am up a creek. I'll have to go with cheat sheets.
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360 | GoatLocker Sustainer
ID: 060151121 Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 14:45
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Hmm, don't know what else to try. I guess I could try to zip it to make it smaller.
Let me see.
Cliff
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361 | GoatLocker Sustainer
ID: 060151121 Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 14:47
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Here's the problem.
This is an automated message from the St. Bernard Software ePrism Email Security Appliance at host lceprism.lakecentral.k12.in.us.
A mail from you (clifford.dilling@navy.mil) to (bgray@lakecentral.k12.in.us) was stopped and Rejected because it contains one or more forbidden attachments.
Summary of email contents:
Queue ID: 6F5C6FFD68 DRAFTD60l_Setup.ppt forbidden attachment (detected as .exe)
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362 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 14:51
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Rather than haranguing Bandos about it, I simply added the 6 missing players to his roster. It now appears that all rosters are full (except for leggestand, who skipped one pick.)
As such, I have now locked out the ability to pick up free agents. If you notice an incorrect player on your roster, please notify me ASAP, and I'll make the substitution.
The list of free agents at Fanball should therefore be accurate. If you want to claim one of those players as part of the post-draft claiming process, you must send me an email stating the player to be added, and the player to be released. The priority order for this process is listed in post 290. I must receive your claim by midnight, Sunday, Sept. 4th.
If there are any claims, I will process them early Monday morning (Sept. 5th). At that time, I will re-enable everyone's ability to pick up free agents on a first come, first served basis. The claim priorities, after adjustment for any awarded claims, will be applied to any waiver claims for the rest of the week. Waiver claims would only be applied to any players who are dropped during the week.
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363 | Ender Donor
ID: 013443221 Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 14:51
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Yeah, I thought we could get around it somehow, but obviously not.
Oh well, I (and you guys) tried.
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364 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 14:56
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Ender, I have a copy as well. I can try putting it on my server, and then send you a URL to access it. I assume you can access rotoguru1.com, since you are posting here.
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365 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 15:08
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Ender - email with URL sent to the lakecentral email address. Is that the proper one to use?
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366 | Ender Donor
ID: 013443221 Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 15:45
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It's actually a fellow teachers due to the server trouble, but it'll work.
I just tried it and it's throwing back any page with a .exe extension. Thanks again for all the help guys. It's a shame I can't get it done. I'm confident in my ability to draft without it, but it would have been a help to our commish to track all the teams easily.
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367 | Bandos Sustainer
ID: 279492419 Fri, Sep 02, 2005, 17:47
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no haranguing was necessary - I was actually at the screen twice and ...
sorry.
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368 | leggestand
ID: 17744278 Sun, Sep 04, 2005, 20:00
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Back in town guys. Thanks for getting my pick(s) in. I will have the missing rationales and pick in tonight, and my draft recap tomorrow.
And post 343 made me laugh.
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369 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Sun, Sep 04, 2005, 21:31
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So far, I have received three emailed claims for undrafted players. I will process them (and any others) tomorrow morning, probably between 8-9 am, and then release all free agents, after which you can pick them up, first come, first served.
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370 | leggestand
ID: 17744278 Sun, Sep 04, 2005, 21:44
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Since I skipped my last pick, am I putting a waiver claim in for someone if I want to drop "Skip Pick?" If so, I will wait until everyone is a free agent to add a player.
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375 | holt
ID: 26810414 Mon, Sep 05, 2005, 00:42
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hey guru - any plans to do a hockey invitational league?
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376 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Mon, Sep 05, 2005, 08:47
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holt[375] - no
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377 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Mon, Sep 05, 2005, 08:53
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The following three claims were processed this morning:
Motley: waive RB Ciatrick Fason MIN and pick up PK Todd Peterson ATL
Bandos: waive Marcus Robinson, WR, MIN and pick up Ben Watson, TE, NE BoNkA: waive David Boston, WR, MIA and pick up Marty Booker, WR, MIA You should now be able to add/drop players. It's not clear whether dropped players will go on waivers this week (prior to the start of the season) or not. I guess will find out if/when someone is dropped. (It may be that waivers start after the first lockout.)
I can't find any link to set up waiver priorities or to claim players, which causes me to suspect that this feature may not activate until after the first freeze.
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378 | Ender
ID: 406351010 Mon, Sep 05, 2005, 11:00
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Does that mean we will handle that manually or that dropped players (including the 3 above) are up for grabs?
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379 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Mon, Sep 05, 2005, 16:19
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I suppose that we should administer it manually, although I rechecked our league settings, and dropped players in the preseason are supposed to go on waivers. I'll submit a ticket to see what's up.
Meanwhile, if you want to claim a dropped player, send me an email.
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380 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Mon, Sep 05, 2005, 17:05
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Fanball responded that the waiver system is not activated until after the first weekend.
I did, however, code up the rules to say that during the preseason, dropped players may not be added for 48 hours. So, supposedly, if you try to add a dropped player during the first 48 hours after he is dropped, you will be prevented from doing so.
Assuming this is true, send me an email if you want to claim one of these players, and I will administer manually.
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