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Subject: Gurupie 24 '05 Discussion V
Posted by: Ref
- Donor [539581218] Mon, Nov 21, 2005, 16:22
We continue on...
As far as the poll goes for the Keeper dilemma, there is not a majority--as often happens when there are three choices. Two of our managers did not participate. Since it was on the site, it is annonymous and people can not change their vote.
Currently 8 of our 24 managers (1/3) wish to cut the Keepers from 9 to 8 immediately. 5 more want to cut the Keepers from 9 to 8 but not until after next year. 9 wish to keep them where they are. Nothing can be done because there is no mandate short of having a vote with only two choices. However, that can be tough as those 5 will be forced to not being able to vote to reduce keepers at all or be forced to do so immediately. One can read it like 13 want to reduce keepers or that 14 do not want to do it right now--both majorites. We are well past our halfway point on the year so forcing a vote may cause some people to vote for something they ultimately don't want. My guess is that we should wait until next year to vote and I'm one of the ones that voted we should change it immediately. |
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| 122 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Fri, Jan 20, 2006, 09:08
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I'd like to ditto what STL said about RFS.
Have really enjoyed interacting with him and playing with and against him in the three leagues.
Cliff
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| 123 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Jan 30, 2006, 15:16
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Without rfs' vision we wouldn't have any of our G20/24 leagues. To lose him hurts on a personal level. But he's been wanting to leave for a long time and I had kept talking him into staying. After awhile, I've understood that he really doesn't want to continue and I've had to accept that. I know others have done the same and have come to the same conclusion.
In an unprecendented move, StL and I have awarded rfs' team to him immediately. GO was the first runner up to get a franchise this year and the same for baseball. Since GO is so active and we know of no other immiment team leaving, we are giving his team to him now rather than waiting until the season begins in case he has off season moves he wants to make.
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| 124 | Great One
Sustainer
ID: 053272014
Mon, Jan 30, 2006, 22:27
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Glad to be apart of the league and to take over for such a good player in RFS. Thanks for the consideration and invitation.
I have never used CBS before, so I am still kind of sifting through the site trying to understand everything. I do like what I have seen so far.
I am interested in trading draft picks for any players you don't plan on keeping - so please send me offers. I attached my work email here - I can be reached at this immediately during EST business hours. Merrill Lynch will gladly pay for me to negotiate football trades!
Secondly, I would also look at moving Priest if anyone is interested in him.
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| 125 | Great One
Sustainer
ID: 053272014
Mon, Jan 30, 2006, 22:30
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work email...
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| 126 | StLCards
Leader
ID: 31010716
Mon, Jan 30, 2006, 23:28
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Welcome aboard Great One! If you have any questions about the league format feel free to ask.
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| 127 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Jan 31, 2006, 16:24
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I've also approved the changing of franchise names for GO. He's a Jets fan and ironically enough, they are one of the few teams unowned and happen to be in the same division of our league, AFC East.
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| 128 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Tue, Jan 31, 2006, 16:34
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Hey GO,
Welcome aboard.
Hmm, maybe JBL and Jamal for Priest....
Wait dangit, I already traded you JBL.
Cliff
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| 129 | Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Tue, Jan 31, 2006, 17:11
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LOL... so that means the Steelers are now available if anyone wants to jump on the bandwagon? Cool... act quick and you might win a Superbowl!!! =-p
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| 130 | Great One
Sustainer
ID: 053272014
Tue, Jan 31, 2006, 17:32
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I will package Rey Mysterio with Priest :)
Sure will be cool to be the Jets, hopefully both this team and the real squad can turn things around sooner than later - at age 26, I am probably way too old to actually coach on the real staff, so I guess this will have to do!
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| 131 | rockafellerskank
ID: 49136120
Fri, Feb 03, 2006, 16:24
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RE: #109 $40 to Guru for bmd and $35 to Guru for StLCard was sent today.
Sorry for the delay, I made the transfer to Pay Pal, then had a senior moment and just now moved it along to Dave.
I picked up the placque today. I have acamera phone and will try to take apacture to post. What took so long... the trophy place dropped and cracked the original one (lamanent) and replaced it with a walnut one.
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| 132 | StLCards
Leader
ID: 31010716
Fri, Mar 03, 2006, 12:48
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I see Mike Anderson was released by the Broncos. At least I got one good year out of him :)
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| 133 | Doug
Leader
ID: 02730280
Fri, Mar 03, 2006, 14:53
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LOL, well, I think it was a result of the screwed up $$$ situation in the NFL right now. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Anderson resigned and in the mix at DEN RB next year.
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| 134 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Fri, Mar 03, 2006, 22:49
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Is trading allowed year round?
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| 135 | StLCards
ID: 10212322
Fri, Mar 03, 2006, 23:13
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Yes, trading is year round. It just needs to be done through the boards and not through the site. So if you have a trade to make, just announce it here and have the other person confirm.
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| 136 | StLCards
Leader
ID: 31010716
Mon, Mar 13, 2006, 12:47
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Mike Anderson signed with Baltimore now. At least he won't have to compete with Bell now and still lands with a running team. Still, leaving that great Denver running team is going to hurt somewhat I would think, but at least he's not a backup.
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| 137 | Myboyjack
Dude
ID: 014826271
Mon, Mar 13, 2006, 15:27
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but at least he's not a backup.
Well, if he beats out Jamaal Lewis, that is. The Ravens have resigned Lewis to a 3 year deal.
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| 138 | StLCards
Leader
ID: 31010716
Mon, Mar 13, 2006, 15:36
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D'Oh! Just assumed he was gone. My Bad.
Also saw that Brandon Lloyd was traded to Washington so now I have two Redskin receivers since I have Moss. Not looking good so far :(
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| 139 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Mon, Apr 03, 2006, 20:16
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G.O., I just saw your offer and sent a counter. You can always hit me back on email too.
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| 140 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Apr 17, 2006, 09:53
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GO, I just saw that I have a trade from you as well. Not sure how long it's been there, but apparently trade notifications don't work in the offseason so we don't get an email when we get it. That is a VERY interesting proposal and it will take some time to digest it.
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| 141 | Great One
ID: 23355177
Mon, Apr 17, 2006, 09:55
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I am just trying to get the discussions rolling along... There is no offseason in football!! :)
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| 142 | Great One
ID: 32312209
Thu, Apr 20, 2006, 11:12
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I am thinking I want to move some of these names I have been given for draft picks as part of my 3-year master plan.
I have guys I would say are worthy of some top picks such as Muhammed and Chambers available, among others.
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| 143 | Great One
ID: 523121411
Fri, Apr 21, 2006, 00:18
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Are the draft picks posted somewhere? I thought I remembered somebody saying I had an extra draft pick of some sort. Curious to see what I have before I make any moves.
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| 144 | StLCards
Leader
ID: 31010716
Fri, Apr 21, 2006, 15:38
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All of the the traded draft picks are listed under the league rules near the bottom. There aren't that many so I will just post them here as well.
XIV Traded Draft Picks:
*8/10/05 Saints receives Vikings 1st round pick in the Foster/Smith/Stallworth for K.Jones deal
*8/26/05 Skineej gets TB's 2nd round pick as part of the 2005 draft pick upgrade allowing him to get O. Smith
*8/28/05 Steelers get Vikings 4th rounder in '06 (draft exchange during '05 draft)
*10/27/05 Steelers get Cowboys' 3rd round pick in the Chargers DST for Blake deal
*11/19/05 Rams get Mike McMahon and 49er's 5th round pick in 2006 and the 49er's get Stephen Alexander and the Rams 3rd pick in 2006.
*11/22/05 Toral receives thk's 2nd rounder for his 4th round pick in the Smith/Barber for McAlister/Clark deal.
Last updated 12/15/05
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| 145 | Great One
ID: 523121411
Fri, Apr 21, 2006, 18:53
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Thanks... looks like I have two 3rds and two 4ths. I am going to look to package these with players I guess to get a couple more 1st and 2nd rounders, just need to figure out how to do all this.
And if anyone has an offer that'll help steer me in the right direction - that would be great - guess I need to go through old drafts etc. to get a grasp on value, and don't really have a handle on what everything is worth yet.
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| 146 | FRICK
Donor
ID: 3410101718
Fri, Apr 21, 2006, 20:28
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If there are going to be any openings for next year I'm interested.
Sorry for the interuption.
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| 147 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sat, Apr 22, 2006, 11:33
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As of now there hasn't been anyone else that has let me know they will not continue. GO was the first alternate and took rfs' team after last season. Generally, managers don't tell us they aren't returning until we start to solicit that info before the season.
Frick, I know you were considered last season too. I can't remember who all we looked at, but I do know that if there were enough openings, you would have gotten a team, so you were given a good recomendation by all that knew you. Leave your contact info so we can contact you if a need arises.
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| 148 | FRICK
Donor
ID: 3410101718
Sat, Apr 22, 2006, 14:59
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Fair enough.
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| 149 | Myboyjack
ID: 5354818
Tue, May 02, 2006, 21:24
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Do we have a reverse order of finish list somewhere?
I'd like to move up a bit in the 1st round. anyone interested in Patrick Ramsey or Chris Henry?
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| 150 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, May 02, 2006, 21:48
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They are in our rules. But remember the lottery will determine the non-playoff order (we pick 4 then reverse order of finish).
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| 151 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Tue, May 02, 2006, 22:19
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SF drafting Vernon Davis (Eric Johnson), Favre announcing he is coming back (Aaron Rodgers), Schaub not getting traded, and Onterrio Smith not being reinstated has deflated the value of several guys I was trying to trade or looking at as keepers. I sure wasted this years 2nd round pick on the Smith gamble. So much talent, so little self-control.
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| 152 | StLCards
Leader
ID: 31010716
Tue, May 02, 2006, 23:25
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KC Chiefs and SF 49er's have agreed to a trade.
KC gets Brad Johnson and Santana Moss and SF 49ers gets Terell Owens.
KC to confirm
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| 153 | smallwhirled
ID: 3211112519
Tue, May 02, 2006, 23:27
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Confirmed.
Thanks for nothin Kerry Collins, way to put the Cheifs in a bind. :(
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| 154 | Myboyjack
ID: 5354818
Tue, May 02, 2006, 23:28
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They are in our rules. But remember the lottery will determine the non-playoff order (we pick 4 then reverse order of finish).
Ref - Waht i saw in the rules looked like last years draft order. I must have been looking at he wrong thing?
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| 155 | Myboyjack
ID: 5354818
Tue, May 02, 2006, 23:30
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Ah, I see it now. i have the 9th overall pick, right?
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| 156 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, May 03, 2006, 00:02
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Not nec. mbj, you could have the first pick or as low as the 13th pick theoretically. Odds are that you will have somewhere around the 9th pick though after the lottery.
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| 157 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, May 03, 2006, 00:14
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Just saw that we have to renew the league by June 26th. Is that like way early or what? With that in mind we should look to start getting our stuff together by around the first of June or so.
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| 158 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, May 03, 2006, 00:35
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Also remember that there WILL be a league vote on our keeper number. Based on an informal poll on the CBS site, a majority of owners favored lowering the number of keepers. There has been proposals for 7 and for 8 in lieu of our current 9. We can discuss the merits of both.
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| 159 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Wed, May 03, 2006, 01:02
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Crap, forgot about the keeper issue.
I will once again comment on the fact that I am firmly behind staying with 9.
All the changes I have made have been based on that number.
Cliff
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| 160 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, May 03, 2006, 01:22
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Well I am sure that a change wouldn't go into effect until next year so we all have time to prepare. I don't see it passing if the proposal was immediate. In fact, we asked that very question in our informal poll and while several wanted it now, more wanted to wait. Combine that with those that want to keep it at 9 and there is no way IMM that it comes close.
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| 161 | THK
ID: 33328819
Wed, May 03, 2006, 09:29
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Holy smokes on the TO trade!
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| 162 | THK
ID: 33328819
Wed, May 03, 2006, 11:25
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*8/10/05 Saints receives Vikings 1st round pick in the Foster/Smith/Stallworth for K.Jones deal
*11/22/05 Toral receives thk's 2nd rounder for his 4th round pick in the Smith/Barber for McAlister/Clark deal.
wow...that KJ deal hurt BAAAD.
Foster
Stallworth
Duece
Clark
1st and 2nd round pick
for
Smith
KJ
Barber
4th round pick
Well, to me it doesn't look too bad when I lay it out like that but I really got rocked on that first part. I still think KJ will be great and Duece has Bush and a bum knee to deal with. Foster is decent but will never be a huge producer. Smith is obviously a stud. I will miss my 1st round pick and Stallworth though.
A trade like that just made makes we want to get back into the swing of things. Too bad I have 2 more weeks of hell.
THK
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| 163 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, May 03, 2006, 14:03
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Been talking on AIM to a few members who have some strong views about the Keeper issue. I must admit that I am solidly on the fence and really want some discussion so I can figure out how I'm going to vote when it comes to that. I am guessing that others are in the same boat. So if those of you who have strong feelings one way or the other can post, perhaps we can come to some sort of a consensus. I'd like to play devil's advocate on a few issues on either side just to figure out how 7, 8 or 9 affects the league and if a change will even help the league at all.
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| 164 | Great One
ID: 4249313
Wed, May 03, 2006, 15:09
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I abstain from voting as I don't really have a concept of the difference that 7, 8 or 9 keepers would make due to my rookie status.
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| 165 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, May 03, 2006, 15:17
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Not even clsoe to calling for a vote yet but hoepfully by then we will all have an idea. Again this year will still have 9 keepers. We would be voting for the future after all of our 24 managers are accounted for.
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| 166 | Peter N.
ID: 36458315
Wed, May 03, 2006, 18:38
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Damnit 'Cards! You just had to go trade for TO didnt ya? :-) I was planning on rooting for TO this year, oh well. ;-)
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| 167 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, May 04, 2006, 23:20
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SW, let me know who you will drop and I will approve this trade.
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| 168 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, May 05, 2006, 10:53
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OK I processed the trade as SW gave me the name of the guy to drop. Also, since our records from last year have been archived, I went ahead and changed GO's team from the Steelers to the Jets.
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| 169 | Great One
ID: 13447510
Fri, May 05, 2006, 12:47
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Jets, cool... you can also go ahead and skip that little lottery thing you had planned and just award me Reggie Bush instead. Thanks. :)
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| 170 | GoatLocker
Sustainer
ID: 060151121
Fri, May 05, 2006, 16:34
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No way, I'm winning the lottery.
And not taking Bush.
(Fingers crossed)
Cliff
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| 171 | Great One
ID: 523121411
Fri, May 05, 2006, 21:22
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Let me just say, I don't believe I have ever won a draft lottery or picked #1 ever in any league - in any sport. So I don't see why my luck would change lol...
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