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0 Subject: 2006 NFL Draft Action Thread

Posted by: Great One
- [523121411] Sat, Apr 29, 2006, 08:28

The Houston Texans opted instead for defensive end Mario Williams, pulling one of the biggest shockers in recent history. They signed the North Carolina State standout to a six-year, $54 million contract, with $26.5 million guaranteed Friday night, hours before the start of the draft Saturday.
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40Myboyjack
      ID: 5354818
      Sat, Apr 29, 2006, 14:37
Miami was supposed to go D here - but Chad Jackson would be a good value here.
41GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Sat, Apr 29, 2006, 14:56
Jackson could make it to SD or, they'll go DB

Cliff
42Myboyjack
      ID: 5354818
      Sat, Apr 29, 2006, 15:06
Chargers would be pretty happy with Jackson.

Cowboys with a surprise, but a hell of a player in Carpenter. Prolly move him inside eventually.

Please keep falling Manny Lawson!! No way he gets by KC though (unless they go WR with Holmes or Jackson)
43rockafellerskank
      ID: 180352016
      Sat, Apr 29, 2006, 15:08
3 Buckeye's in top 18 and a chance for 6 1st rounders. How'd they ever lose a game?
44GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Sat, Apr 29, 2006, 15:13
Other thought would be that SD goes with Cromartie.

Wouldn't be surprised.

Cliff
45Myboyjack
      ID: 5354818
      Sat, Apr 29, 2006, 15:13
They didn't lose many. How'd FSU lose with 3 of the top fifteen?

KC going to take Lawson - dangit! (please take Hali)
46Myboyjack
      ID: 5354818
      Sat, Apr 29, 2006, 15:15
Yeah - i think Cromarie's the right pick for SD.

If lawson's gone - I hope the bengals trade down with someone wanting a WR or maybe with the Texans wanting a RB or WR or possibly Winston Justice. How 'bout Texans #2 and #3 for Bengals #1 - Texans take Winston Justice. Sound sgood to me.
47GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Sat, Apr 29, 2006, 15:15
Or SD goes Winston Justice - I really hope not.

Cliff
48GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Sat, Apr 29, 2006, 15:16
Also forgot Holmes is there and SD could go that route.

Cliff
49GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Sat, Apr 29, 2006, 15:17
I'm sure they are looking at one of those 4.

If it is anybody else, I'm shocked.

Cliff
50GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Sat, Apr 29, 2006, 15:18
Cromartie
51Myboyjack
      ID: 5354818
      Sat, Apr 29, 2006, 15:21
Cromartie could be a steal. That's who I had the Bengals getting at 24.

Now I'm hoping for Manny Lawson or Jimmy Williams or even better a trade down.
52Myboyjack
      ID: 5354818
      Sat, Apr 29, 2006, 15:29
KC going to take Lawson - dangit! (please take Hali)

LMAO. It worked. Hali isn't strong enough to play on the line. Keep dropping Lawson! Bad pick for KC. Good for NE and Cincy.
53Myboyjack
      ID: 5354818
      Sat, Apr 29, 2006, 15:46
I knew it was too good to be true. Lawson goes to SF. Now I'm hoping for Jimmy Williams, but am afraid we'll pick a TE. ugh.
54Great One
      ID: 523121411
      Sat, Apr 29, 2006, 15:51
Anyone know of a site that lists the best available players? I woul like to have a visual of who is currently on most people's boards.
55Species
      Leader
      ID: 07724916
      Sat, Apr 29, 2006, 15:55
49ers doing VERY well in this draft. Things fell perfectly into place. Woo hoo.
56Myboyjack
      ID: 5354818
      Sat, Apr 29, 2006, 16:01
Please God take Jimmy Williams!
57Great One
      ID: 523121411
      Sat, Apr 29, 2006, 16:13
Don't the Giants need some CB's?
58Ktx
      ID: 10353818
      Sat, Apr 29, 2006, 16:15
Winston Justice Free falling...

trend for the Trojans this year =(

Ah what has happened!
59Ktx
      ID: 10353818
      Sat, Apr 29, 2006, 16:15
yea i thought Giants needed a CB, but espn is talking about WRs... shrug
60Ktx
      ID: 10353818
      Sat, Apr 29, 2006, 16:21
5 smallwhirled
ID: 43338280
Sat, Apr 29, 2006, 11:49 I think the Steelers are going to move up 10 spots or so if Santonio Holmes is there to get him. They have 10 draft picks from some suplementals that they picked up and they are ready to use them if the right guy is there.

Genius SW, GENIUS...
61Myboyjack
      ID: 5354818
      Sat, Apr 29, 2006, 16:33
The Bills are insane.
62smallwhirled
      ID: 43338280
      Sat, Apr 29, 2006, 16:33
Bills worst draft ever.

Carolina got a steal, wow.
63Boxman
      ID: 29322295
      Sat, Apr 29, 2006, 16:41
What are the terms of the trade the Bears made with the Bills in the first round? ESPN passed right over it in their coverage.
64Great One
      ID: 523121411
      Sat, Apr 29, 2006, 16:45
Loving the Mangold pick to go with D'Brickashaw - top C in the draft, building depth from the inside out. Hoping for a good RB with the Jets pick 6 picks later..
65Myboyjack
      ID: 5354818
      Sat, Apr 29, 2006, 16:48
yeah the Jets with a couple of sure things on the line. Great way to build a team.
66Boxman
      ID: 29322295
      Sat, Apr 29, 2006, 16:50
Answered my own question, looks like my Bears got a second and third round pick this year for their first rounder #26 overall.

Not bad at all. Let's see if they can capitalize on it.
67Great One
      ID: 523121411
      Sat, Apr 29, 2006, 17:08
I was thinking I wanted Lendale White for the Jets 3 picks from now, but now I don't know. Jimmy Williams, Youbouty... wouldn't mind a WR like Chad Jackson or Sinorice Moss (Coles/Moss II?!).
68Great One
      ID: 523121411
      Sat, Apr 29, 2006, 17:18
and they traded the pick the Redskins... hmm... imagine if the Skins pick the OTHER Moss?!
69Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Sat, Apr 29, 2006, 17:18
Bill Polian is the best GM in the league. If he thinks this Addai guy is a better bet than White, than who am I to argue.

ESPN was talking about many many issues that has scared teams away. Some I hadn't heard until today.
70Great One
      ID: 523121411
      Sat, Apr 29, 2006, 17:35
Javon Walker traded to Denver for their 2nd Round pick.
71Taxman
      SuperDude
      ID: 029463114
      Sat, Apr 29, 2006, 17:45
answer to post #54 Great One... TSN War Room
72Great One
      ID: 523121411
      Sat, Apr 29, 2006, 17:49
Didn't even realize Winston Justice was still available. Thats what many mock drafts had the Eagles taking in the 1st round... for them to get him in 2nd! well done.
73Taxman
      SuperDude
      ID: 029463114
      Sat, Apr 29, 2006, 17:51
Does anybody have a link that reports the draft day trades of picks/players/wives?

74beetski
      ID: 483211122
      Sat, Apr 29, 2006, 22:26
I believe the Jets blew it in the third round. Haven't heard anybody talk about this yet but Brian Calhoun should have been the pick, they traded down and probably thought no one would pick the RB, Schlagel was a reach.
75G
      ID: 329361323
      Sun, Apr 30, 2006, 04:16
Nice call SW - #5.

It was nice to see Steelers get one of the top WR's in the draft. A.RE was a decent role player but he would not have been a starter on most teams.

I know WR's are usually one of slowest positions to make an impact in the NFL but I guess I am still a little surprised that the first WR didn't go until Pitt picked. Was it really that weak of a draft for WR's this year?

To the Vikes, you never know on draft day, but is this one of the worst draft teams there is? Most of the folks I talked to are in disbelief at their choices yet again. One staff writer said after their second pick in round two, "if this was a fight, they would have to throw in the towel". Now that is funny. Who are these guys and how can you reach for a player at 50 something that isn't in the top 100 for most boards. Then they trade two number 3's for Pitt's second round pick. MN is not a player or two away from the big game. They need bodies to come in and make the team and hopefully start in a couple years from now. Your third round picks should make your squad. Giving up two thirds just didn't make sense to me especially for who they went with.
76Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Sun, Apr 30, 2006, 09:53
Apparently Washington disagrees with your assessment on AR-El!

Lendale White going at 45 is telling. Either a HUGE steal or a wasted 2nd rounder. He had more TDs than Bush. If he gets his act together he could be a very good pro.
77Mike ECfnW D
      Leader
      ID: 041831612
      Sun, Apr 30, 2006, 10:30
Real happy with the Philly picks. I even like the Div. 1-AA guy in the 3rd, as he projects at strong side LB, not DE.
78barilko6
      ID: 63312113
      Tue, May 02, 2006, 12:01
Some very interesting stats regarding the draft "experts":



John Lund, AM Drive host at 1270 WXYT in Detroit, with help from Mike Sando of the Tacoma News Tribune, looked at 17 mock drafts and came up with these odd stats:

• The only consensus pick was Reggie Bush #1 to Texans...all missed.

• On average the "expert" was 4 for 32 in right team / right player picks.

• On average "expert" picked 26 of the 32 players picked in the first round regardless of team.

• Every mock had Winston Justice in first round. He went 39th to Philly in 2nd round. Jarrett Bell of USA Today and Don Banks of SI.com had him 8th to Buffalo.

• Every mock had Chad Jackson, WR Florida in the first round. He went to the Patriots in the 2nd round, pick 36th overall. Most had him going to Denver at # 15.

• Frank Croyle of Dratfinsiders.com (Ha!) and Chris Colston of USA Today picked 1 player/team combos correctly. Croyle picked Nick Mangold to the Jets at #29. He was the only expert to go 0 for the first 10 picks. He went 0 for the first 28 picks. Colston picked Vernon Davis to the 49ers at #6 and missed 26 straight.

• The draft God, Mel Kiper picked 5 correctly and had 26 of the 32 players in the first round in his mock.
79Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, May 02, 2006, 13:12
Good stuff!
80WiddleAvi
      ID: 5470911
      Tue, May 02, 2006, 13:39
The guy on NFL network, can't remember his name, had it right up to pick 11 (Thats when I stopped watching so it may be a lot more then that) aside from the Mario Williams/Reggie Bush picks.
81barilko6
      ID: 63312113
      Tue, May 02, 2006, 13:50
Really? He called the Bills picking Donte Whitner at pick 8?!? That is incredible, becauase as a huge Bills fan that totally threw me for a loop. Even the radio guys on AM550 went "Who?" when they made the pick...lol
82Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, May 02, 2006, 14:58
I am so glad Vick didn't get drafted.
83biliruben
      Leader
      ID: 589301110
      Tue, May 02, 2006, 15:08
The Bills are insane.

Agreed.

They are always a bit unconventional, and they do need some different personnel to go with a new scheme, but that's no reason to throw away obvious value, picking dudes 10 picks (at least) too early.

They needed linemen. They got DBs. Maybe they can stack them on eachother's shoulders.
84Frick@Work
      Donor
      ID: 3410101718
      Tue, May 02, 2006, 15:52
Re: 78


Does anyone know if anyone has compiled a team's "grades" and compared it to their record over a certain time period?

It doesn't take into accout free agency, but good or bad drafting should have some relationsip to a teams record.

I'm a Colts fan so I'm biased,but the Colts usually get a low draft grade. Granted they haven't won a SuperBowl, but they have had a good record over the last 4-5 years.

The Colts and Polian have been mocked for not making the "smart/expert" pick, but I have to think they have turned out ok i.e. Manning/Leaf, Edge/Ricky, Freeney/whoever.

85Myboyjack
      ID: 5354818
      Tue, May 02, 2006, 16:33
HaHaHA - I did better than Kiper - again.
86WiddleAvi
      ID: 3022278
      Tue, May 02, 2006, 17:56
Mike Mayock Mock Draft

He got the first 8 right. Missed at #9 but had Leinhart at #10 and Cutler at #11 but to the rams.
87barilko6
      ID: 24419110
      Tue, May 02, 2006, 21:06
re 86...Wow, that is incredible!

re 83...The Bills did reach a bit on their first pick, but got GREAT value on their later picks that made up for it. I would have liked to see a good OL picked up somewhere, but I am generally pleased with what they did.

I heard today on the radio that it would make the most sense to Grade Drafts 5 years later...and I agree...it takes some players longer to develop than others, and who can really tell who is going to be good before they actually take to the field, that is why there are busts and sleepers!
88TB
      Sherpa
      ID: 031811922
      Tue, May 02, 2006, 22:06
#86- He got the first two picks wrong. Williams went first, not Bush.

I don't think the Bills reached on Whitner. He is definite first round value and should be an excellent playmaker for them, but I do think they could have traded down and still got him. I read specualtion that they thought Detroit or another team was looking at Whitner so they didn't gamble on trading down.
89TB
      Sherpa
      ID: 031811922
      Tue, May 02, 2006, 22:12
I meant to add this to the last post.
In the ESPN's 2006 NFL Draft First Round Forecast there were several people who got 12 of the first 13 picks correct, with the only wild-card being Whitner. Lots of people guessed Bunkley was going in that spot.
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