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0 Subject: RIFC 2006: pre-season discussion

Posted by: Guru
- [330592710] Mon, Jul 10, 2006, 11:36

I am pleased to announce the 14 managers for the 2006 RIFC:

Guru
Motley Crue
Leggestand
Doug
IAMCANADIAN
Oaktown Raiders
Goatlocker
Valkyrie
youngroman
Beezer
Culdeus
Hubble
TB
s_R

This list includes me, the top-6 non-me seeds from last year's RIFC, 3 teams from each AAA league, and the (playoff) winner of the AA league. The winner of the AAA2 league (Mike V) declined the invitation, so I selected the next best team from that league.

Although it is still early, there are several things that we can start on:

1. Sign-ups for qualifying leagues. I will start a separate thread for this.

2. Discussion of possible rules changes. I will begin a separate post for this.

3. Discussion of any other issues that should be resolved before the start of the draft.

I expect that the draft will start sometime around August 18. If we decide to expand roster sizes, we may need to push that up a few days.

I plan to draft using kafenatid.net software once again. For those who may not have used this before (or since last summer), there have been some significant enhancements, particularly in the handling of queues. One consequence is that the recent drafts for baseball moved faster than in prior years, as people were more able to effectively manage and submit queues.

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182youngroman
      ID: 43441182
      Fri, Jul 28, 2006, 18:33
I take #10.
183Doug
      ID: 196442711
      Fri, Jul 28, 2006, 20:09
I'll pick a dozenth. (read: 12th)
184Doug
      ID: 196442711
      Fri, Jul 28, 2006, 20:20
FYI, I am on family vacation August 18 - 27... right in the heart of draft season.

I should be able to keep up reasonably well and I'm pretty comfortable / reliable with queues.

I'll also probably leave my phone # with people picking ahead/behind me or who are otherwise watching like hawks ('hawks being appropriate since I'm heading to Seattle). =-p We'll deal more with this when the time comes, but just wanted to give you all a heads up now.
185s R
      ID: 861898
      Sat, Jul 29, 2006, 01:17
#14
186Motley Crue
      ID: 432501119
      Sat, Jul 29, 2006, 01:26
I'll take lucky 13.
187Doug
      ID: 31655290
      Sat, Jul 29, 2006, 01:56
Good choice.
188Doug
      ID: 31655290
      Sat, Jul 29, 2006, 01:57
To recap:

1 Hubble
2 Goatlocker
3 Leggestand
4 IAC
5 Athletics Guy
6 Beezer
7 Culdeus
8 Valkyrie
9 TB
10 youngroman
11 Guru
12 Doug
13 Motley Crue
14 s_R
189culdeus
      ID: 21658420
      Sat, Jul 29, 2006, 10:08
We are drafting on Kafe no?
190Motley Crue
      ID: 2192327
      Sat, Jul 29, 2006, 14:30
Yeah.

It's gonna be fun to steal players from Guru and Doug right before they pick each time we come out of the turn.
191Doug
      ID: 50747319
      Sat, Jul 29, 2006, 18:44
And vice versa in the odd rounds. =-p
192Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sat, Jul 29, 2006, 19:31
[was thinking the same thing...]

I just emailed the draft registration info to each of you for kafenatid.net.
193Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sat, Jul 29, 2006, 20:51
I believe these are the final rules. Hopefully, they are clear and correct:

Roster
1 QB
2 RB
3 WR
1 TE
1 K
1 Team def
1 DL
1 LB
1 DB
3 additional IDP (flex)
9 bench
24 Total

Decimal scoring is applied for all categories.

Offense Category Points
(apply only to QB, RB, WR, TE, and K unless otherwise noted)
Passing TD 4
Other TD 6 (all TDs, whether on offense, defense, or special teams)
Passing-2pt conv 1
Other-2pt conv 2
Passing yard 1/25 (i.e., .04 per yard)
Rushing yard 1/10 (i.e., .10 per yard)
Receiving yard 1/10
Punt return yard 1/10 (also applies to IDP)
Kick return yard 1/25 (also applies to IDP)
Kick return 0 (no deduction)
Int, fumbles lost -2

Kicking Points
(apply only to QB, RB, WR, TE, and K)
Extra point made 1
Extra point missed -1
FG under 40 yards 3
FG 40-49 yards 4
FG 50+ yards 5
Missed FG <30 -1
Missed FG 30+ 0

Team Defense Points
(the following points apply only to team defenses)
Sack 1
Interception 2
Fumble recovered 2
TD 6 (excludes TDs on kick or punt returns)
Safety 3
Blocked kick 2
Shutout 10
1-6 defensive points allowed 7
7-13 defensive points allowed 4
14-20 defensive points allowed 1
21-27 defensive points allowed 0
28-34 defensive points allowed -1
35+ defensive points allowed -4
Defensive points allowed exclude TDs scored by the opposing special teams or the opposing defense (i.e., TDs on turnovers, kick/punt returns, or blocked kicks).

Points are assigned for yardage allowed according to the following table:
500+ yards allowed: 0 points
400-499 yards allowed: 1 point
300-399: 2
275-299: 3
250-274: 4
225-249: 5
200-224: 6
175-199: 7
150-174: 8
125-149: 9
under 125: 10


Indiv Defensive Players Points
(the following points apply only to DL, LB, and DB)
Solo Tackle 1
Asst Tackle 0.5
Pass defensed 1
Sack 3 (half sack=1.5)
Interception 3
Fumble forced 2
Fumble recovery 1
TD 6 (all TDs, whether on offense, defense, or special teams)
Safety 3

Unlisted players
During the draft, any player may be drafted, regardless of whether or not the player is listed at the hosting game site. Once the draft is completed, unlisted players may not be added to any roster. This applies for any post-draft waiver processing as well.

In the event that a drafted player is not listed after the draft has completed, a placeholder player will be assigned to the drafting team, to be replaced by the drafted player as soon as he is available.

Priority Claiming
All free agents (any players not on a current roster) are subject to a weekly claiming process at noon on Wednesday. Following the first 6 weeks of the season, the priorities will reset weekly based on the reverse of W/L percentage. After that, priorities will not be reset. Throughout the season, when a player is claimed (either via "free agent priority claim" or a waiver claim), the claiming team moves to the end of the claiming priority list. Following the final regular season game, priorities will be reset based on playoff seed, with the top seed getting the top priority. Thereafter, throughout the playoffs, priorities will again adjust only when a claim is awarded.

Starting at 1:00pm on Wednesday, all free agents may be picked up by any team "first come, first served" without any change in priority status.

When a player is dropped from a roster, the player will go on waivers for 48 hours. At the end of the 48 hour period, if any team has placed a claim on the player, the team with the highest claiming priority will receive the player. If no claims are submitted, the player becomes a free agent at that time. If a player is dropped within 48 hours of his game freeze, he may not be claimed until the following week's free agent claiming process.

Starting five minutes prior to the scheduled start of each NFL game, no player in that game may be dropped, regardless of whether the player is an active or bench player.

Schedule
13 week round robin
Doubleheaders all weeks 1-13 (play each team twice)
Single elimination playoffs, weeks 14-16

Trades and trade deadline
During the draft, trades may include draft picks. Trades will normally be approved immediately by the Commissioner, assuming they are reasonably balanced. If league managers believe an announced trade is unbalanced, they should protest the trade ASAP.

After the draft, trades will be subject to a review period. For the first 24 hours following a trade, managers may protest a trade by posting a message at the RotoGuru forum, or by sending an email to the Commissioner. If at least 3 managers protest a trade within 24 hours of its announcement, then all managers will be polled within the next 24 hours. If seven or more managers vote to veto a trade, then it will not be approved. If a proposed trade is announced less than 24 hours before the earliest freeze for any player involved, then the entire trade will not be processed until the following week.

If a trade does not receive at least 3 protests, then it will be effective 24 hours after it is announced. If a trade receives at least 3 protests but the protests are not upheld in a full league vote, then the trade will be processed 48 hours after it is announced.

The trade deadline is 11:30pm EST on November 10.

Playoffs
8 teams
Top 6 W/L records are seeded 1-6
Top remaining total points are seeded 7-8
Teams with equivalent W/L records are seeded based on head-to-head first, then total points
Bracket is fixed (no reseeding after each round)

Players at the primary skill positions (QB, RB, WR) and team defenses may not be added for any reason during the playoffs. Free agents at these positions will be locked out after the final regular season game. You may drop a player at one of these positions, but once dropped, that player cannot be added later.

Players at the other positions (TE, PK, IDP) may be added or dropped according to normal regular season guidelines, subject to playoff claiming priorities, if applicable.

Team which are not still active in the Championship playoffs may not make any transactions - adds or drops - even if they are still competing in the Consolation bracket.

194Letter_J
      ID: 33501914
      Sun, Jul 30, 2006, 11:37
Regarding post 193,

First, sorry to intrude... but, IIRC, there was a maximum number of players that could be drafted at any one position (For instance, I believe at the RB position, it was 7). I do not see this anywhere in the final rules...Does this restriction still apply? Or perhaps my memory is failing me and this rule never existed.
195Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Jul 30, 2006, 12:21
Never had any maximum in this league.
196Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Jul 30, 2006, 12:43
I had said in an earlier post that the initial waiver priorities were the reverse of the opening round sequence.

It now occurs to me that waivers are not processed before the opening game of the season. Therefore, unless we implement a manual process, there is no priority system for adding free agents (or dropped players) after the draft but prior to the end of the first weekend.

I think I can make all free agents subject to an initial claiming process 48 hours after the league is activated. Thereafter, I think we'll just do without the waiver process until after the season starts.
197Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Jul 30, 2006, 12:59
I've attempted to set up all of the league rules at Fanball. Here is a pdf listing of those rules:

http://rotoguru1.com/foot/RIFC/2006/RIFC2006-rules.pdf

Most of the rules are carried over from last year's league, and I have assumed that they are still correct. I have updated the rules that have changed, and also added some details in the Custom rules section regarding playoff roster limitations, trade approval process, and a few other clarifications.

All league managers are encouraged to review these and question anything that looks incorrect.

Commissioners of qualifying leagues are also encouraged to use this as a resource when setting up those leagues.
198Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Mon, Jul 31, 2006, 11:46
As a heads up on our draft process, I plan to start the draft on the morning of Wednesday, August 15. The clock will initially be set at 6 hours, with a moratorium from 11pm-7am EDT. If the clock expires, the next person in line will get to draft, and the skipped drafter will make up his skipped pick whenever he can. The clock will continue to run on weekends.

People at the endpoints of the draft have only one single time limit to make their consecutive picks.

Last year, we started the draft on August 17 and finished on Sept. 1st. I did not activate the clock until August 19th, but I am planning to activate it at the start of the draft (i.e., August 15th) this year, since we have 3 extra rounds to complete.

Since last year, KKB has added some very nice queue capabilities, and I expect the draft to proceed with fewer/shorter delays because of that. This was certainly the case in the baseball draft held in the spring.

As before, I will set up a script on rotoguru1.com that displays the results of the draft in progress, both sequentially and in grid form. If you do not have access to kafenatid.net (at work, for example), this script should allow you (and outsiders as well) to follow the details of the draft. I can also set up the same viewing program using a different domain, if there are those of you who mayu lack access to both rotoguru1.com and kafenatid.net at the same time. Let me know if that would be useful.

200leggestand
      Leader
      ID: 451036518
      Tue, Aug 01, 2006, 15:33
As I have told Guru, I am going out of the country from Aug 4-15th, and will not have internet access while I am gone. I should make it back to the draft on time, though.

Guru, August 15th is a Tuesday, so, did you mean: Wednesday August 16 or Tuesday August 15th?
201Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Aug 01, 2006, 16:41
Sorry, I meant Wednesday, so the start date is really August 16.
202culdeus
      ID: 21658420
      Wed, Aug 02, 2006, 09:23
I have access to kafe. Don't expect any delays there.
203Trip
      Leader
      ID: 13961611
      Thu, Aug 03, 2006, 11:39
Guru, can you please set up the "draft in progress" scripts for the other leagues for those who do not have access to kafenatid at work.
204Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Aug 03, 2006, 12:06
Yep. The program should automatically work for all RIFC leagues. The URL for the RIFC will be:
http://rotoguru1.com/cgi-bin/kpeek.pl?93

For other leagues, just replace the 93 with the appropriate kafenatid.net league ID. AAA#2 is 94.
205Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Aug 03, 2006, 12:17
Actually, I now see that AAA#1 is league 95, although it's labeled RIBC, not RIFC.
206Hubble
      ID: 1549114
      Sat, Aug 05, 2006, 10:23
I will be out of town monday to wednesday night, since i have first pick, should i just post it right away? or wait thursday?
207 TB
      Sherpa
      ID: 031811922
      Sun, Aug 06, 2006, 17:50
Hey Guru, can you forward the OTC league ID and password to my home email? Thanks
208I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 3579513
      Mon, Aug 07, 2006, 16:49
FYI - Hubble gave me the OK to give his #1 pick as of Wednesday (with restrictions: ie. should said pick break his leg), should you guys want to start drafting early. Just post if you want to get the draft started or not?
209culdeus
      ID: 376401719
      Mon, Aug 07, 2006, 21:10
meh, rather wait till after the weekend.
210leggestand in London
      ID: 21744146
      Mon, Aug 14, 2006, 07:50
Found an internet cafe in London...My flight for tomorrow is currently on schedule, but it has been cancelled 2 of the past 3 days. Security at Heathrow is still pretty tight, so, only about 70-80% of flights are getting out. Our same flight for today did make it out, though, so, I am still hoping to be back before the draft. My British Airways flight is at 11 am (GMT) and is flight number BA0217, so, if I am stuck at the airport with no internet access, you guys may be able to find info about my departure there. Just to put it in perspective, my sisters were booked on a flight last Friday, and have been cancelled all the way up until this Wednesday.

In efforts to get the draft started, I am sending a 3 man queue to Guru, but if I am stuck for a bit the next couple days without internet access, I would appreciate a lax approach for rounds 2 and 3 (assuming I can't find internet access). Thanks guys, and I will hopefully be back stateside tomorrow.
211Motley Crue
      Dude
      ID: 439372011
      Mon, Aug 14, 2006, 09:27
Jeez, legge. You would go and get yourself stuck in London right before our hugely important fantasy draft! ; )

Be safe, man.
212Doug
      ID: 277531115
      Mon, Aug 14, 2006, 19:19
You should take the ferry.
213Hubble
      ID: 185332620
      Mon, Aug 14, 2006, 19:25
lol @ 212
214GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Mon, Aug 14, 2006, 21:42
Best of Luck legge, hope you make the flight.

Cliff
215culdeus
      ID: 21658420
      Tue, Aug 15, 2006, 08:03
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
216I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 59652217
      Tue, Aug 15, 2006, 09:07
Once the clock gets turned on... I'll start configuring my DP's and try to get my 1.04 in queue as well.
217Motley Crue
      Dude
      ID: 439372011
      Tue, Aug 15, 2006, 09:22
Oooh, maybe I'll make a queue for my 1.13.

Are we starting today? If so, someone should let me know if I come up. I'm sure they would anyway. It's just that I can't view Kafenatid from this computer. Anyway, yeah.
218TB
      Sherpa
      ID: 031811922
      Tue, Aug 15, 2006, 09:26
It doesn't start until tomorrow. It doesn't look like we can set up a queue until the draft is opened.

You know what's crazy is that I can't get to rotoguru from work, but can get to kafenatid. Other than being out of town Friday and Saturday for work, I should be able to have your back as a DP.
219Motley Crue
      Dude
      ID: 439372011
      Tue, Aug 15, 2006, 10:11
It's funny how we both work for the same rich uncle, yet his policies differ so strangely between here and there. It sort of makes no sense.

Why aren't you at work?!
220TB
      Sherpa
      ID: 031811922
      Tue, Aug 15, 2006, 10:13
I hurt my shoulder over the weekend. I have a follow-up appt tomorrow, so am just chilling out today. Ice back and pain meds. I need a football draft right now....woohoo!
221Motley Crue
      Dude
      ID: 439372011
      Tue, Aug 15, 2006, 10:25
I'm psyched. I have a live in-person draft on Saturday, and it should be a blast. Well, unless Team B trades up for the first pick in every round and gets Huggies.

Oops, I named an undrafted player. Heh.
222I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 3579513
      Tue, Aug 15, 2006, 12:01
RE 218: We aren't starting today? Darn... I was really hoping we were. I was all stocked when I saw on Kafenatid:

"RIFC 2006 Proposed Start Time
08/15/2006 07:00 AM Not Started"
223I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 3579513
      Tue, Aug 15, 2006, 12:02
nm... just saw post 201. :(
224Athletics Guy
      ID: 167191017
      Tue, Aug 15, 2006, 12:08
Is there anyone picking 6th through 10th who wants to swap draft spots with me (for rounds 1-24)?
225Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Aug 15, 2006, 12:20
Sorry, per post 201 we are starting on 8/16. I'm obviously calendar-challenged.
226I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 3579513
      Tue, Aug 15, 2006, 12:21
Can we start drafting but not be on the clock till morning? I'm pretty sure that the Top4 have there picks locked up.
227Athletics Guy
      ID: 167191017
      Tue, Aug 15, 2006, 12:33
Too bad the guy with the #5 pick ia going crazy with no clue what to do!
228I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 3579513
      Tue, Aug 15, 2006, 13:49
I don't mind if you wanna use your clock (for research/potential trades)... I think the first 4 can get our picks in right away though?
229holt
      ID: 22726517
      Tue, Aug 15, 2006, 15:30
haha - I have the 5th pick in AAA#1. I made my pick earlier today but it was difficult. not nearly as easy as I thought it would be.
230Valkyrie
      ID: 313182621
      Tue, Aug 15, 2006, 16:08
Athletics Guy- I have #8 I'll trade rounds 3-24 with you after we each keep our first two picks.
231leggestand
      ID: 426542419
      Tue, Aug 15, 2006, 17:57
Thanks for the good luck wishes, and I am now back home in the states. Loooooooong flight...2 hours of delays + 8 hour flight. Going to take me some time to get completely up to speed on some things, so, I am glad I am locked in at the 3 pick and won't have to make another choice for another 22 picks.
232Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Aug 15, 2006, 18:11
I have activated the draft, although the clock will not start until tomorrow. Please move to the draft discussion thread for continuing comments.

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