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0 Subject: Gurupie 24 '06 Pre-season Discussion II

Posted by: Ref
- Donor [539581218] Tue, Aug 15, 2006, 16:13

Been asked to start a new thread, so here goes. Here is the first thread.
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57Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Mon, Aug 21, 2006, 15:52
no, just don't include anyone from your team. Leave your team blank nad add the draft pick(s) in the offer line.

I just got an email from Go saying he won't be home tonight. I'm going to see what I can do to assist him , but don't think I can accept it for him. Might have to do it manually.
58skinneej
      Leader
      ID: 040625911
      Mon, Aug 21, 2006, 16:01
Post 51 confirmed.

Driver and 2.06 for 1.05 and 5.02.
59Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Mon, Aug 21, 2006, 16:18
Go will have to accept the trade himslef tonight. He thinks it will be done by 9pm.
60Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Mon, Aug 21, 2006, 16:23
OK 58 is approved on the site. Holy smokes trades/offers are flying into and out of my inbox in basebal and football right now--not to mention other people's trades that have draft picks that stl and I are scrambling to enter into the rules and approving. Wild day today!
61StLCards
      Leader
      ID: 31010716
      Mon, Aug 21, 2006, 17:24
Attention anyone making trades.

Make sure to modify your keepers both in the league thread and by clicking the appropriate players as keepers on the league site.
62Great One
      ID: 523121411
      Mon, Aug 21, 2006, 18:20
Home and accepted. I need to drop someone - please drop Dorsey.

A few names I am considering moving for picks.

Rex Grossman
Chad Pennington
Priest Holmes
63Great One
      ID: 523121411
      Mon, Aug 21, 2006, 20:08
I'd likely move my #1 next season for a top 10 pick this season.
You surely know that'll be another top 5 pick looking at my pathetic squad!

I'd package that pick with one of the above players. Only a few hours left...
64skinneej
      Leader
      ID: 040625911
      Mon, Aug 21, 2006, 21:20
Addendum to the Browns-Packers trade (post 58):

Please allow the Browns to retain their pick at 5.02. Somehow with all the traded picks today, I lost track and thought that he had an extra pick and that I was short one. My current picks should be 1.01, 1.05, 2.05, 3.06 and 5.06.
65skinneej
      Leader
      ID: 040625911
      Mon, Aug 21, 2006, 21:23
Also I noticed that on the site, the pick SF recieved in the trade for ATL def should be 4.06 not 4.05. That is all...
66Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Mon, Aug 21, 2006, 22:55
I wouldn't mind moving porter, toomer, or suggs.
67Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Mon, Aug 21, 2006, 23:11
SJ, I'll look into your post, but normally what goes down in the official trade is final. If there is an issue where you trade a pick that you don't have, etc. that is another thing.
68Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Mon, Aug 21, 2006, 23:18
Re: 65 Changed. Sorry, must have been looking at the trade above it.

Re: 66, sorry but the trades stand. You can get around it by trading that draft pick for a guy you're not going to keep. We all know what you're doing and we won't veto it. Just don't want to set a precedent--esp. with an easy fix.
69Perm Dude
      ID: 17252111
      Mon, Aug 21, 2006, 23:23
skineej, just threw a corrective trade offer your way if you are still around.
70Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Mon, Aug 21, 2006, 23:40
PD, we can do it manualy perhaps if SJ is not around. We already know he wants it dont.

TB, you need to delete your original post of your keepers. Also, only 16 people have posted their keeps. We're not going to be too strict on posting htem in this forum but we want everyone to post them. However, CBS will wipe sometime at or after midnight and obviously you need to have your keepers marked before then. If you've made trades, you had better marked your new keepers at CBS as well as reposted your keeps in our keeper thread for history purposes. Also, not all of us have access to CBS from work and people are going to be using our keeper thread and drafted players to draft.
71skinneej
      Leader
      ID: 040625911
      Mon, Aug 21, 2006, 23:45
PD, I'm around to accept.
72Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Mon, Aug 21, 2006, 23:58
Need teh accepted trade right now in order to approve it before the deadline.
73Perm Dude
      ID: 17252111
      Mon, Aug 21, 2006, 23:59
I sent it!
74Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 00:07
If I had to guess, I'd say that CBS will wipe the Non-Keeps at 1:00 am EST as that's the time that trades seem to be approved in baseball along with WW pickups etc.
75skinneej
      Leader
      ID: 040625911
      Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 00:08
Accepted. Please drop Bryson from my team after is is approved.
76Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 00:12
Re: 75 approved. SJ, I'm just going to let CBS wipe the extra players.

PD, you are only keeping 8? ALso please list the players you're dropping.
77Perm Dude
      ID: 17252111
      Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 00:17
Good catch, ref. Forgot to check him off, and so didn't notice I needed to list him! Will put in the drops in just a sec.
78Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 00:27
This is hard for us. Wish that CBS let us wipe these guys ourselves. We could make everyone drop their own, but then everyone wants to wait until the last second to post. We can evaluate this and determine what we will do for next year. But that did save PD a player for instance, just easier to me with a firm time so we can move on to the draft.
79Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 12:34
This keeper thing was a pain in the ass. There is a thing where we an change it from managers check to commish and we can clear them ourselves. Or we can go back to the old way of you drop your own. Either way, it's imperative that each manager makes enough time to double check who they have kept and to make the posts as we asked. It's our fault as well as first there were no posting then there was again. But, still we gave plenty of notice so we're disappointed. Anyhow, moving forward, we need to get Dan and one other, Turley's Cards perhaps--I'll have to double check to post their keeps and see if anyone else can remember who they dropped if they didn't post them.

I saw that SW only kept 8 right before the non-keeper wipe, but didn't see him on AIM and knew he wouldn't make it even if I emailed him, so he is short a player. Perhaps it was intentional. Luckily PD was on when I saw that he only kept 8 initially so he could fix it.

The main thing, what we were trying to avoid was people putting off announcing their keepers until the last minute and then something coming up and then the commishs would have had to pick theirs for them. Every year at least one person misses the deadline. At least we were able to be proactive and continue to email these people until they had boxes checked. It doesn't take that much time to look in on the league and your team and I'll admit that it gets frustrating for us when we have to continuously repeat things and hold some people's hands, but would rather do that than to have a team's whole team wiped out and have to figure out what to do then.

Moving forward, Cards and I will prepare today for the draft. Obviously you may continue to trade up until the deadline. We have to go through some settings and re-order the draft to account for the recent draft pick trades and get the draft set up. As soon as the draft room opens the first manager will be on the clock immediately. We plan to have that done somewhere around Noon ET and we will email the first three managers when we are about ready to open in. I will also prepare the cumulative clock chart. We're starting a bit later this year since we got almost a whole round in by this time last year. I also need to find some time to START preparing for my own draft and figuring out what I need. A BIG THANK YOU to all of you who worked with us to get this going and for all of your kind words and suggestions via email about the desire for a Keeper thread, etc. Makes it a lot easier when most of the 24 managers really do their part to make the whole league better. Also want to thank all the people I have been dealing with as far as trades go. Had a good time with the back and forths.
80Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 12:37
My apologies to Turley, it's Dan and sw who haven't posted their keeps in our keeper thread yet.
81StLCards
      Leader
      ID: 31010716
      Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 12:47
If someone assembles all the traded picks since the last chart (since post 4) then it will be easy for me to udate it.
82Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 13:10
Cards, I've got all of them in the league rules. Just pick-up where you left off.
83Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 13:15
Just to clarify, You may trade all year long except from the trading deadline through the end of the championships. The Keeper deadline has no bearing on trading except for the fact your team from which you may trade from is obviously smaller.
84smallwhirled
      ID: 3211112519
      Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 13:19
my situation:

Ref alerted me last week to go onto the cbs site and declare keepers. So I went ahead and quickly picked keepers, as I picked my 9. I saw something on the site, in the yellow box above my lineup that said that you needed to pick 8 keepers to have an active lineup. At the point I just picked 8 keepers and let everything stand.

I declared on the site but wasn't around that much and forogt to post in the keeper thread on rg. Only today I realized that I should have picked 9 keepers because I haven't participated in draft pick trades because I was satisfied with my drafting position.

I wanted 9 keepers all along is what I'm trying to say, I guess.

I declared the 8 that are already on the site and the 9th with a star in the declaration thread. When I quickly declared my keepers, I just kept Paul Edinger assuming he was still on Minnesota. That's not the case anymore, so I have declared my other kicker as my final keeper if this is allowed.
85StLCards
      Leader
      ID: 31010716
      Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 14:25
Re:#82, I was just wanting to make sure we didn't miss anything and that everything is right. I know there have been a few picks that weren't listed correctly so I just want to verify them all again. I'll do it when I put the new chart together. Hopefully I can get to it later on today.
86Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 14:40
I've been talking to sw and Cards and here is our thinking. We will not allow him to change Edinger as a Keeper since it is past the deadline. To do that would be to allow everyone in the league to change a current keeper.

I think what messed with sw's mind was teh yellow warning flag addressed that he may only have 8 ACTIVE players in his lineup--has nothing to do with Keepers. Wish he would have asked. I try to pride myself in being firm but fair and Cards has the same ideals which is probably another reason we work so well together. Like last night when we knew what PD and Skinneej wanted to do and agreed to it but the site didn't get the trade to us until technically after the deadline. Bid deal, it had nothing to do with Keepers really. Same for giving PD a heads-up on his 8 Keepers to get them to 9. Would have done the same thing with SW if he was around. So Cards and I feel we should allow sw to re-add Bryant as his 9th Keeper. If there are any objections, please speak up now and tell us why. Will check back in here later to see your comments.
87StLCards
      Leader
      ID: 31010716
      Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 16:53
New Draft Chart
Round 1 Round 2 Round 3 Round 4 Round 5
     
1 Packers Jets Jets   Ravens   Jets
         
2 Seahawks Browns Browns Browns   Browns  
     
3 Jets Seahawks Seahawks Seahawks Seahawks
4 Giants Bills Bills Bills Bills
               
5   Packers   Packers   Ravens   Rams   Ravens
               
6 Bills   Browns   Packers   49ers   Packers
           
7 Ravens Jaguars Jaguars Jaguars Jaguars
8 Jaguars Eagles Eagles Eagles Eagles
9 Eagles Bengals Bengals Bengals Bengals
10 Bengals Chargers Chargers Chargers Chargers
11 Chargers Broncos Broncos Broncos Broncos
12 Broncos Bears Bears Bears Bears
13 Bears Giants Giants Giants Giants
     
14 Saints Saints Saints   Vikings   Saints
     
15 Falcons Falcons Falcons Falcons Falcons
16 Cardinals Cardinals Cardinals Cardinals Cardinals
     
17 Rams Rams   49ers   Rams Rams
     
18 Chiefs Chiefs Chiefs Chiefs Chiefs
               
19   Saints   Saints   Vikings   Jets   Vikings
               
20 Colts Colts Colts Colts Colts
21 Raiders Raiders Raiders Raiders Raiders
     
22 Cowboys Cowboys   Ravens   Cowboys Cowboys
     
23 Texans Texans Texans Texans Texans
     
24 49ers 49ers 49ers 49ers   Jets  
     
88GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 19:21
OK all,
A real quick idea of what is up.
My new cardiologist did a stress test a week ago yesterday.
He said it is hard to tell what he is seeing, but doesn't like it.
Looks like part of the heart is getting no blood.
I go in for an angiagram and whatever is required on Fri.
Hopefully if all goes well, will be back sometime Fri nite.
Will leave a long queue with somebody.
If things look any different later in the week, will try to find somebody to complete the draft.

Dang, I'm becoming a hazard to drafts this year.

Will figure it out one way or another.
Doing all the workups for surgery now.

And of course, my brains are mush once again.

And, when do we start the draft????

Cliff
89Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 20:16
Draft begins Thursday sometime around Noon ET. For some reason I was thinking today was Wednesday earlier. The draft will not open early. The whole Keeper thing threw me off by a day.
90Toral
      ID: 52621719
      Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 20:19
Do you think you could encourage the players who didn't list their drops to do so before Thursday?

Toral
91Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Tue, Aug 22, 2006, 22:03
I've asked them all to do so.
92smallwhirled
      ID: 31759511
      Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 11:47
Alright, I've added Bryant to a new post in the other thread, and I posted the drops. Sorry about not doing it before.
93Doug
      ID: 441251914
      Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 12:08
FYI, I'm out all day... fortunately my pick isn't until end of round 1 so I'm assuming I won't be a significant holdup.
95Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 15:39
Have had many inquiries about when the draft starts. Rememebr to look on CBS commish msg and ticker for notices as well as this thread...But just to make sure everyone is aware...

Draft will begin around Noon ET tomorrow (Thursday) August 24th.

We say around because it will officially start when we open the room and we will give a heads up to the first three drafters as we get ready to launch the draft thread. Once the draft thread is open we will need another post or two until it is ready for drafting.
96GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 16:18
Are we doing the draft on RotoGuru or on CBS?

Cliff
97StLCards
      Leader
      ID: 31010716
      Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 16:23
We'll do it on Rotoguru as in the past. Hope everything goes well on Friday for you Cliff!
98Myboyjack
      Dude
      ID: 014826271
      Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 18:00
What is this "draft room" to which you are referring? I think that may confusing a few people (like me) . Id it just the draft thread, like we've always had, or some new feature?
99Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 18:03
Sorry, draft THREAD like always. Got lots on my plate in rl as well as here so apologize for any confusion, but that's been my middle name lately.
100Myboyjack
      Dude
      ID: 014826271
      Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 18:08
heh. join the club.
101Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 19:56
rifc aa draft has just started and needs a replacement manager/ post in the thread in football leagues forum if you want it. better hurry.
102Promize
      ID: 141018197
      Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 20:03
I'll be at work tommorow when the draft starts, but hell, my queue is pretty simple... Either The RB or the other RB :)
103GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Wed, Aug 23, 2006, 21:05
Wish my queue was as simple.
Ya ever tried to do 106 player queue before.
I'm going to drive my Designated Picker nuts if I don't make it home in a reasonable time.
And trying to figure out the first half of the first round is simple.
It's the other 4 rounds that are tough.

Back to it.
This isn't getting it done.

Cliff
104Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, Aug 24, 2006, 00:07
As a reminder, the draft and the discussion thread during the draft will be held in the football leagues forum.
105 skinneej
      Leader
      ID: 040625911
      Thu, Aug 24, 2006, 09:26
I'll be ready to make the first pick whenever the thread is available. While there will be no surprise at #1, and I have a pretty good idea who the 2nd and 3rd picks are, my 1.05 pick may be available depending on who the fourth pick is.

If I trade 1.05 it would be for a Top 15 Starting QB or to move down a few spots in 1st round for other considerations. Those could include a player or draft pick combinations. E-mail me at this addy with any offers.
106GoatLocker
      Sustainer
      ID: 060151121
      Thu, Aug 24, 2006, 10:12
skinnej,
Email sent

Cliff
107Ref
      Donor
      ID: 539581218
      Thu, Aug 24, 2006, 12:31
The draft has begun. Please move all discussion to the leagues forum until the draft concludes.
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