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Subject: Super Bowl XVII
Posted by: Pancho Villa
- [47161721] Sun, Jan 20, 2008, 22:35
Anyone like the G-Men straight up?
Probably not, but that's why there's point spreads. San Diego beat the spread today, which I thought was too high(14 in my morning rag).
I'm thinking the opening line will be around 9 or 10, O/U around 47.
Then there's always the ridiculous bets that only the Super Bowl offers. A few years ago I bet that Kobe Bryant would score more than the SB final.
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| 70 | Ref
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Sun, Feb 03, 2008, 22:55
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The Pats were a great team, but I always saw them as beatable. I guess now every team (save 72 phins) were beatable. Still love the 85 Bears as the best of all time.
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| 71 | Frick
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Sun, Feb 03, 2008, 23:03
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RE:69
Are you really surprised that the Arizona Cardinals' clock operator couldn't operate the clock effectively. It isn't like Bidwell is known for paying for the best. And with past experiences for the Cardinals, would anyone ever notice that the clock wasn't operating correctly.
Congrats to the Giants, you have done a great service to humanity.
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| 72 | Tree
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Sun, Feb 03, 2008, 23:16
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this is what i said in this thread:
Giants win 24-21.
not too far off.
in an email to my old college buddies who are Patriots fans (but weren't in the early 90s), this is what i said earlier in the week:
the Giants have been on a roll. the Pats have been struggling - in their last 6 regular season games, three of them were decided by a field goal.
i think the Giants D shuts down brady like they did Romo and Favre. i think Manning continues to play a perfectly coached game.
i wasn't too far off there either...
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| 73 | Ref
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Sun, Feb 03, 2008, 23:20
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RE: 69
I thought that the clock was stopped for a measurement for the possible first down. The clock actually ran to 1:22 and had to be reset to 1:28. Then the clock doesn't start again until the referee's signal. They actually didn't have to measure, but it was close enough that they had to stop the clock to assertain that.
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| 74 | Toral
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Sun, Feb 03, 2008, 23:32
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It worked! I jinxed them!
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| 75 | J
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Sun, Feb 03, 2008, 23:40
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Tom Brady, early this week, "We're only gonna score 17 points?"
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA F-You you cocky piece of sh!t!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Go G-MEN!!!!! )There's a LOT less beer in my fridge too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 76 | J
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Mon, Feb 04, 2008, 00:47
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Ok, I've sobered up a little :)
So what were the results of the prop bets?
The National Anthem seemed LONG
I think I saw 12 shots of Peyton, only saw dad in the postgame.
Gatorade was clear color
Didn't hear if Eli thanked God or not
What else???
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| 77 | Bond, James Bond
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Mon, Feb 04, 2008, 00:54
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The Giants D was absolutely stupendous tonight. Guess all the Pat's fans will blame this loss on the supermodel, right? :)
Just wondering...if you're Tiki Barber....LOL
Congrats Giants fans! Beating T.B., Dallas, Green Bay and New England in succession shows what kind of mettle this team is really made of.
Guess this means that the 2008 NFL kickoff game will be in Giants stadium this year. Sweet!!!
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| 78 | Da Bomb
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Mon, Feb 04, 2008, 01:01
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Re: 75 Good Point, J.
Plax's prediction
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| 79 | Ref
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Mon, Feb 04, 2008, 01:48
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My MVP vote would have been for David Tyree, though Eli certainly had a great case and as we all know the QB generally wins the MVP--at least lately.
I kept thinking about that prediction--esp. the later it got. You didn't even score 17, Tom!
The Giants D-Line were able to pressure Brady all night...something that I hadn't seen all season.
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| 80 | Ref
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Mon, Feb 04, 2008, 01:56
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Btw, I know Tyree was on 3 for 43 and a touch, but that catch chagned the game. If NE had won, I'd also have looked hard at voting (if i had one) for Welker over Brady.
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| 81 | Da Bomb
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Mon, Feb 04, 2008, 02:04
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Because Tyree only had 3 catches, and only had 47 yards, he would not have gotten my MVP vote. Plus, Eli accomplished an equally impressive feat as Tyree's catch on the same play by somehow not only not getting sacked, but made a throw that gave his receiver a chance to make a play.
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| 82 | sarge33rd
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Mon, Feb 04, 2008, 08:12
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I actually ried to time Jordans rendition...I saw it at 1:52 in length.
While they showed Peyton on camera frequently, they said "Peyton Manning..." 6 times I believe. (3 were in one sentence though. lol)
The dousing was water I think? It was clear, whatever they used.
I LOVED the Victorias Secret ad. Otherwise, I REALLY liked the talking baby e-trade ones.
And Tom Petty, did none of the things listed above. He was superb!!
Had NE won, I'd agree entirely with Welker for MVP. Else, I think the entire NYG D deserves it. Eli got it, I think largely based on the sheer determination he displayed on that last drive, in not getting sacked. Regardless of all else in the game, had he gone down on that one play; it was game over.
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| 83 | Slizz
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Mon, Feb 04, 2008, 09:46
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Stevie Spags made a lot of money for himself last night...
David f'n Tyree, how on earth!?!? That might be the biggest catch in Super Bowl History. Definitely the play of the year. Prothro who?
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| 84 | Great One
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Mon, Feb 04, 2008, 09:59
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Did anyone else have someone in the room ask who Tom Petty was? Sometimes I don't realize how truly out of touch some people are.
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| 85 | Farn
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Mon, Feb 04, 2008, 10:00
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re: #71
Are you really surprised that the Arizona Cardinals' clock operator couldn't operate the clock effectively. It isn't like Bidwell is known for paying for the best. And with past experiences for the Cardinals, would anyone ever notice that the clock wasn't operating correctly.
I believe the officials, timekeepers, etc are all provided by the NFL. So its a bit hard to blame it on the Cardinals owner.
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| 86 | Perm Dude
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Mon, Feb 04, 2008, 10:02
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I thought Petty might have gotten it only because he's old and he voices a character on another FOX show. I thought the show was OK for an oldies show, but the "lighters" (actually, lighter-like flashlights) being waved by the "crowd" (actually, hired extras told to wear dark clothing) in front of the stage was making me gag.
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| 87 | Farn
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Mon, Feb 04, 2008, 10:05
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PD, those people on the field in front of the stage were not hired. They were local people being honored in some way or another.
I know this because my girlfriend was invited as a local teacher. They were inviting quality poeple from the local areas.
But yes, those flashlights were awful.
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| 88 | Perm Dude
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Mon, Feb 04, 2008, 10:08
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Thanks, Farn. I was told by someone down there that the crowd was essentially hired movers (to move the staging, etc., on & off the field) and that extras were hired to fill in the space. They must have included others, then, which is kind of cool.
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| 89 | Kyle
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Mon, Feb 04, 2008, 10:12
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Budweiser had the highest rated TV ad. It was the dog training the Clydesdale.
Also Tom Petty didn't curse, but Terry Bradshaw dropped an f-bomb during the last 5 minutes of pre game. It was when Howie was trying to put on a hat and Terry said something about "his huge f---ing head"
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| 90 | C1-NRB
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Mon, Feb 04, 2008, 10:20
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RE: 84 Did anyone else have someone in the room ask who Tom Petty was?
Yes. The answer from someone else was, "I think he's, like, an '80s guy." I weep for the future.
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| 91 | ChicagoTRS
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Mon, Feb 04, 2008, 10:42
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I think we can safely remove the greatest team off all time tag from the 07 Pats...they really did not play great the second half of the season. The Giants showed a strong pass rush could do to the Pats offense.
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| 92 | Toral
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Mon, Feb 04, 2008, 10:53
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89 Kyle
According to Colin Cowherd, who claims to have checked, Bradshaw said "buckethead".
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| 93 | sarge33rd
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Mon, Feb 04, 2008, 12:03
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Couple years ago, Moss was villified for leaving the field with time still on the clock. I'm more than a little surprised that no one has lambasted Beli for doing the same thing last night.
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| 94 | Ref
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Mon, Feb 04, 2008, 12:15
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Beli is a sore loser, period.
I agree that Tyree's line is hard to give him the MVP, just that the catch was the game. Let's face it, Eli managed to get out of the sack, but he just winged it. Again, I don't have an issue with Eli getting it, but there are others who should have (and may have been in) consideration. As Sarge said, the whole D-Line as a unit were sensational.
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| 95 | sarge33rd
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Mon, Feb 04, 2008, 12:18
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On another forum, a poster said (and I have to agree 100%)...The NYG Def Co-Ord should get that MVP award.
That D last night was relentless, obsessive, determined...whatever favorable adjectives you want to apply to them....they displayed 10 times over.
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| 96 | Perm Dude
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Mon, Feb 04, 2008, 12:24
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Regarding Coach B, at least he had the decency to shake Coughlin's hand before trotting off.
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| 97 | TB
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Mon, Feb 04, 2008, 12:39
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Congrats to the Giants and all their fans. Great ending. Eli showed a lot of guts on that final drive, especially when I felt like he was starting to make some bad throws. When he escaped that pass rush and made that unbelievable throw and catch with Tyree, it's like you knew they were going to finish the drive with a TD.
Welker had a great game for the Pats. Best FA addition for any team this year. Moss might have gotten all the attention, but Welker just keeps drives alive.
I wasn't that impressed with many commercials this year and some of them were just bad. Bad enough that I don't even remember what they were for, but I do remember thinking "Who gave the thumbs up to pay suberbowl advertising prices for this crap?"
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| 98 | TB
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Mon, Feb 04, 2008, 12:41
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Yeah, my spelling was great in that last post.
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| 99 | Perm Dude
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Mon, Feb 04, 2008, 12:57
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I thought a few ads were good (the Bud Light "Fire" ad was a great way to start) but the Dell ad was just stupid. I said "who cares?" at the end.
Will Ferrell always cracks me up.
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| 100 | Ref
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Mon, Feb 04, 2008, 13:48
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RE: 96
Yeah Beli has taken a lot of heat for refusing to shake the Colts hands after two defeats last year. Still, Beli's ego gets the ebst of him. I mean why else would you forgo a very makable 49 yard FG and go for it on 4th and 13?!?! I'd easily give up 7 yards if he missed to take that opportunity with my K and his history. The conditions were ideal.
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| 101 | Tree
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Mon, Feb 04, 2008, 14:46
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not attemping a 49 YD FG, indoors, at that point in the game, at 4th and 13, will go down as one of the biggest coaching mistakes in the history of football.
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| 102 | TB
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Mon, Feb 04, 2008, 15:32
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But Beli is a genius coach. I've heard it said a lot these last few years.
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| 103 | Toral
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Mon, Feb 04, 2008, 18:10
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sarge 93 Couple years ago, Moss was villified for leaving the field with time still on the clock. I'm more than a little surprised that no one has lambasted Beli for doing the same thing last night.
Well you got your wish today. I've listened to and watched a number of sports talk shows, and Belichick's walkoff gets more air time than any other one feature of the game, and the attitude of hosts and callers was indignation. If I heard correctly, Wilbon just suggested on PTI that he should be suspended for it.
Toral
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| 104 | Toral
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Mon, Feb 04, 2008, 18:12
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The "Tom Brady is the greatest QB of all time" stuff also seems to be dead.
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| 105 | Slizz
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Mon, Feb 04, 2008, 21:30
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hey, if Asante Samuel wasnt too busy thinking about his money...Pats would be Super Bowl Champs.
David Tyree...seriously, that might be the greatest super bowl moment these eyes have witnessed.
Best Ads - T-Mobile's Fave 5 w/Charles Barkley and Dwayne Wade and the Audi R8 commercial (play on the Godfather).
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| 106 | Ref
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Mon, Feb 04, 2008, 23:51
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Tom Brady and Randy Moss pulled out of the Pro Bowl on Monday, a day after the New England Patriots were beaten in the Super Bowl.
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| 107 | Farn
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Tue, Feb 05, 2008, 00:04
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Moss must have gotten hurt in the locker room because he cerainly was just fine through the game and walking off the field.
I'll give Brady a pass because we all knew he was hurt.
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| 108 | Bond, James Bond
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Tue, Feb 05, 2008, 00:43
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106
From what I understand, during the Super Bowl both Brady and Moss contracted a case of what can only best be described as "both-hands-around-the-throat" syndrome. ;)
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| 109 | holt
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Tue, Feb 05, 2008, 03:21
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I was going to make fun of Hoody for going for it on 4th and long rather than trying the 50 yarder but I see that's already been taken care of.
Way to go Giants. Most football fans thank you! The Eli to Tyree play will go down as one of the greatest plays in Super Bowl history. I mean I was already amazed that Eli broke free and got a pass off. The catch just made the whole thing unbelievable.
I made fun of Citizen watches for their "Eli, unstoppable" commercials earlier this season. Now it's time to retract those statements.
Tiki Tiki Tiki.
Tiki.
haha
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| 110 | Tree
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Tue, Feb 05, 2008, 06:55
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Moss must have gotten hurt in the locker room because he cerainly was just fine through the game and walking off the field.
yea. from what i'm hearing, he hurt his v@gina.(shockingly, this board censors that word...i wonder if i can say breasts)...
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| 111 | walk
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Tue, Feb 05, 2008, 10:13
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Parade doesn't start for another hour, but man, you can really here the "Let's go Giants" chant outside my office window. I am 18 floors up and a block away. It's gonna be really something. Mild out today, so I think lots of folks will attend. I'm gonna head on out around 11-ish.
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| 112 | walk
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Tue, Feb 05, 2008, 13:37
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Wow that was fun. So many freakin people, and so much paper. A blizzard of paper, everywhere, all the time. Great turnout; mild 50F weather. Great support. Lotsa cheers, including the obligatory "boston sucks." It was a lot of fun. So many people, kids, too!
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| 113 | sarge33rd
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Tue, Feb 05, 2008, 13:40
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On another forum, it was posted that the NE O had a new line blocking scheme for this past game. They called it "LOT". When the ball was snapped, they stepped aside and hollered:
Look
Out
Tom!!
roflmao
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| 114 | Great One
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Tue, Feb 05, 2008, 13:52
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Strahan isn't gonna make any friends in New England after that speech lol...
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| 115 | walk
Dude
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Tue, Feb 05, 2008, 16:12
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What did Strahan say?
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| 116 | Great One
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Tue, Feb 05, 2008, 16:27
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Here's a summary. It doesn't sound that bad when I read it here, but they way he said it, he made it sound like they stomped on New England just like you'd stomp a little bug or something... thats how it came across to me anyway.
Fans chanted "one more year!" when Strahan took the podium, begging the veteran defensive end to return for another season.
Strahan contemplated retirement prior to the season and even sat out training camp.
"One more year?" Strahan asked the crowd with a large smile. "We'll see."
Strahan then shared the Giants' pregame "stomp you out" cheer, even stomping on the stage after declaring his team "stomped the New England Patriots out".
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| 117 | J
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Tue, Feb 05, 2008, 16:40
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Apparently its just a pregame ritual. Not specifically geared towards the Pacheatriots
Michael Strahan led the crowd in a “Family Circle”, which is how he pumps up his fellow defensive lineman before a game. Strahan showed how in the circle, his defense asks “What are we gonna do?” to which he replies “Stomp them out!”, which is exactly what the Giants did to the New England Patriots. The crowd chanted “One more year!” for Strahan who responded “One more year? We’ll see.”
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| 118 | Weykool
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Wed, Feb 06, 2008, 10:36
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14:05... beer in the fridge..
15:17... NYG not only cover...they win it straight up.
My guess is the beer is no longer in the fridge?
How much beer WAS in the fridge?
:-/
Sorry I didnt get around to this sooner....I had some other helpings of crow to eat but now I can get my come-uppins here as well.
Good call Sarge.....and now I crawl back into my hole.
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| 119 | sarge33rd
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Wed, Feb 06, 2008, 11:29
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roflmao WK...not an issue. I've been wrong with predictions FAR too often, to gloat too terribly openly on this one. :)
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