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0 Subject: RIFC 2013: Getting started

Posted by: Guru
- [330592710] Tue, Jul 16, 2013, 15:09

I am pleased to announce the 14 managers for the 2013 RIFC:
Holt
Bonka
youngroman
Wiggs
TD
Khahan
Smth32
s R
twilson
Judy
IAC
Kyle
Promise
Guru

This list includes the top-6 seeds from last year's RIFC (including the playoff winner), the playoff winner from each AAA league, all other AAA teams ranked in the top 3 for the regular season (including ties), and the (playoff) winner of the AA league. Although this comprises 15 teams, one manager declined the invitation. So the 14-team league is full.

Next steps:
1. Sign-ups for qualifying leagues. I will begin by notifying all of last year’s managers by email. Please check the address that you provided for your league last season. Those emails should go out shortly.
2. Discussion of possible rules changes. (We can use this thread for that. I'll post a recap of the 2012 rules momentarily.)
3. Discussion of any other issues that should be resolved before the start of the draft.

Once again, I plan to have the RIFC and all qualifying leagues hosted at myfantasyleague.com. The drafts will be held at MFL as well.

RotoGuru will pay the cost of all RIFC leagues. A voluntary donation of $5 per manager is suggested to help defray the cost. (Managers who have already contributed this year are exempted.) If you wish to donate to the cause, please see the instructions on the GuruPatron info page .

Last year, the draft began on August 26, and was completed in 7 days. This year, I would expect to draft under a similar time frame – starting on either August 25 or 26. The first game of the NFL regular season is on Thursday, September 5.
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44twilson
      ID: 7729914
      Fri, Aug 09, 2013, 15:29
Sorry guys, I didn't expect us to kick off the draft order draft so early this year.


1) twilson
2)
3)
4)
5)
6) s R
7)
8)
9)
10)
11) Bonka
12)
13)
14) Wiggs



5 Smth32
6 Judy
7 Holt
8 youngroman
9 Kyle
10 IAC
11 promize
12 Guru
13 Khahan
14 TD
45Smith32
      ID: 577451015
      Sat, Aug 10, 2013, 16:46
I would like the 9 spot but I am having trouble copying and pasting the summary with my phone. Could someone please help?
46wiggs
      Leader
      ID: 04991311
      Sat, Aug 10, 2013, 16:51
1) twilson
2)
3)
4)
5)
6) s R
7)
8)
9)Smith 32
10)
11) Bonka
12)
13)
14) Wiggs




6 Judy
7 Holt
8 youngroman
9 Kyle
10 IAC
11 promize
12 Guru
13 Khahan
14 TD
47Judy
      ID: 54203110
      Sat, Aug 10, 2013, 17:01
1) twilson
2)
3)
4)
5)
6) s R
7)
8) Judy
9)Smith 32
10)
11) Bonka
12)
13)
14) Wiggs


7 Holt
8 youngroman
9 Kyle
10 IAC
11 promize
12 Guru
13 Khahan
14 TD
48wiggs
      Leader
      ID: 04991311
      Sat, Aug 10, 2013, 17:07
Do we have a potential start date for this? I only ask because I know I will be moving into a new house hopefully next weekend, fingers crossed, and we have twins due on Sept. 9. I will have access but not really sure how much :)
49holt
      Donor
      ID: 308491916
      Sat, Aug 10, 2013, 18:38
1) twilson
2)
3)
4)
5)
6) s R
7)
8) Judy
9)Smith 32
10)
11) Bonka
12)
13) Holt
14) Wiggs


8 youngroman
9 Kyle
10 IAC
11 promize
12 Guru
13 Khahan
14 TD
50youngroman
      ID: 3913664
      Sat, Aug 10, 2013, 18:50
1) twilson
2)
3)
4)
5)
6) s R
7)
8) Judy
9)Smith 32
10) youngroman
11) Bonka
12)
13) Holt
14) Wiggs


9 Kyle
10 IAC
11 promize
12 Guru
13 Khahan
14 TD
51Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sun, Aug 11, 2013, 09:47
I've consistently been suggesting a start date of Aug 25. No one has yet pushed back against that.

Expectation is that the draft will take about a week.
52Bonka
      Sustainer
      ID: 019742310
      Sun, Aug 11, 2013, 11:18
Yeah, 25th is good for me. Just going to be busy with 4 drafts starting that day, one of them a live draft. Should be interesting.
53Kyle
      Sustainer
      ID: 052753312
      Mon, Aug 12, 2013, 16:12
25th is good for me.

I'll take pick 12.

1) twilson
2)
3)
4)
5)
6) s R
7)
8) Judy
9)Smith 32
10) youngroman
11) Bonka
12) Kyle
13) Holt
14) Wiggs


10 IAC
11 promize
12 Guru
13 Khahan
14 TD
54I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 14615220
      Mon, Aug 12, 2013, 17:51
25th is fine for me.

I'll take pick 03.

1) twilson
2)
3) IAC
4)
5)
6) s R
7)
8) Judy
9)Smith 32
10) youngroman
11) Bonka
12) Kyle
13) Holt
14) Wiggs


11 promize OTC
12 Guru
13 Khahan
14 TD
55Bonka
      Sustainer
      ID: 019742310
      Mon, Aug 12, 2013, 17:57
Jamaal Charles' foot may be ruining my strategy here.
56Promize
      Leader
      ID: 06757148
      Tue, Aug 13, 2013, 06:38
25th is fine for me.

I'll take pick 02.

1) twilson
2) Promize
3) IAC
4)
5)
6) s R
7)
8) Judy
9)Smith 32
10) youngroman
11) Bonka
12) Kyle
13) Holt
14) Wiggs


12 Guru
13 Khahan
14 TD
57Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Aug 14, 2013, 09:38
I'll pick 4th.
Khahan is up

1) twilson
2) Promize
3) IAC
4) Guru
5)
6) s R
7)
8) Judy
9) Smith 32
10) youngroman
11) Bonka
12) Kyle
13) Holt
14) Wiggs


13 Khahan
14 TD
58I_AM_CANADIAN
      Sustainer
      ID: 01361448
      Wed, Aug 14, 2013, 09:46
Doh! I was hoping to avoid Bonka/Guru in this draft!
59Khahan
      Donor
      ID: 39432178
      Wed, Aug 14, 2013, 09:52
1) twilson
2) Promize
3) IAC
4) Guru
5) Khahan
6) s R
7)
8) Judy
9) Smith 32
10) youngroman
11) Bonka
12) Kyle
13) Holt
14) Wiggs

14 TD


I'll let TD have the pleasure/honor of filling in his own name.
60Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Aug 14, 2013, 10:16
IAC - I'm sure we'll drive each other crazy a few times...
61Judy
      ID: 54203110
      Wed, Aug 14, 2013, 14:36
Shoot -- right next to TD. I know he'll take at least 2-4 of the guys I want. Phooey! But a challenge.
62I_AM_CANADIAN
      Sustainer
      ID: 01361448
      Wed, Aug 14, 2013, 14:57
RE 61: I'd be more worried about watching the other side... Smith32 <-Seasoned Vet
63Khahan
      Donor
      ID: 39432178
      Wed, Aug 14, 2013, 15:08
Well, just make the draft process easy - you guys all email me who you want and in what round. That way I'll know if I'm going to take somebody you want and can apologize ahead of time.
64I_AM_CANADIAN
      Sustainer
      ID: 01361448
      Wed, Aug 14, 2013, 15:12
:P
65TD
      Leader
      ID: 036331011
      Wed, Aug 14, 2013, 21:08
1) twilson
2) Promize
3) IAC
4) Guru
5) Khahan
6) s R
7) TD
8) Judy
9) Smith 32
10) youngroman
11) Bonka
12) Kyle
13) Holt
14) Wiggs
66Judy
      ID: 54203110
      Wed, Aug 14, 2013, 21:43
62: not sure if I have been in a league with smith32?
67I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 14615220
      Wed, Aug 14, 2013, 21:48
RE 66: Don't say you weren't warned! ;)
68Smith32
      ID: 39749157
      Thu, Aug 15, 2013, 08:49
Re:[66] I feel like we may have both played in the AA league to help fill it last year. Apparently I was not a memorable participant. :)
69I_AM_CANADIAN
      Sustainer
      ID: 01361448
      Thu, Aug 15, 2013, 09:36
A quick check of the old Draft Recap threads, re-enforces my opinion. Especially in 2008/2009 did Smith32 get a special acknowledgment for his drafting prowess.
70I_AM_CANADIAN
      Sustainer
      ID: 01361448
      Thu, Aug 15, 2013, 09:57
BTW. That's one of the big things I tend to like about RotoGuru.

It's always had a focus on documenting (Rationals/Recaps). That makes it interesting to look back even a few years later to see "what's changed" and "what's the same".
71Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Aug 15, 2013, 10:41
I set up the draft order at mfl.com. Feel free to check my work.
72Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Aug 15, 2013, 10:45
Just a thought -

Does it make sense to use the MFL draft page to post our rationales (in the comment column)? The advantage is that it allows everyone to directly post in the proper spot without having to use placeholders - so it would significantly simplify my work! I'm not sure if the format would make things look to stretched - but I'm inclined to give it a shot.

If the formatting is unsatisfactory, I could probably copy it over to a traditional thread at some point for archival purposes.
73Khahan
      Donor
      ID: 39432178
      Thu, Aug 15, 2013, 10:55
I actually did this last year in the AAA a bit. Quite a few people did.

It was nice and convenient and easy to use. Though, admittedly it made looking at the draft results page a little sloppy sometimes. But that's purely an aesthetic issue as it throws off the size of the different boxes.
74Smith32
      ID: 39749157
      Thu, Aug 15, 2013, 11:32
Re 62,67,69 - Thanks IAC. I think you and I tend to approach the draft similarly (and/or use similar sources for our research), because your team always looks good to me post-draft. So I am glad we are not too close in the order.

I also went back and saw that I drafted beside Judy in AA last year and then went 20-6, so maybe that is a good omen. I probably stole everyone she wanted.
75Bonka
      Sustainer
      ID: 019742310
      Thu, Aug 15, 2013, 14:13
Can also set up a spreadsheet on google docs and allow people to edit. Can copy the draft order in then let people fill in the player and comments once they make their picks.
76holt
      Donor
      ID: 308491916
      Thu, Aug 15, 2013, 16:02
The disadvantage to doing rationales at MFL is that people outside the league might be less inclined to read them. And they also might be more difficult to go back and read a year or two down the line. Kind of nice having rationales archived here on the forum. Would there be any simple way to copy the rationales to the forum when the draft is done?
77Judy
      ID: 54203110
      Thu, Aug 15, 2013, 16:29
How about what we did in AAA and do them in groups of five players/rounds. I thought the mfl ones were way too brief. I like the thought that most people put into their rationales and that doesn't really fit into the mfl format. Some people ke to write short stories and they are much fun to read!

That way guru would not have to do the placeholder, copy/paste stuff. Groups of five gives a story too as you can see the thought process in the sequential picks. Guru would just have to nudge the missing folks to get cracking!
78I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 14615220
      Fri, Aug 16, 2013, 08:22
Do we have any decisions on rule changes for this year (sorry if I missed)?
79Khahan
      Donor
      ID: 39432178
      Fri, Aug 16, 2013, 08:59
I think post 76 is most compelling factor to keep the rationales here on the boards. But maybe modify them as judy suggested. Put rationales up for rounds 1-5 and to cut down on the work people can post them in clumps.

Or if you'd want to keep them organized I can help w/ the transfer from here to the rationale thread.
80Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Fri, Aug 16, 2013, 17:49
The only rule change is that blind bidding will be conditional.

We didn't vote on that. Decided by Guru fiat.
81Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Fri, Aug 16, 2013, 17:57
I don't like the five-round grouping. We'll still have multiple laggards, especially when we are blasting through 3-4 rounds per day, and I think it flows better when it's all in sequence.

I could fairly easily copy from the MFL format into a forum thread - certainly after the draft ends, maybe even during the draft on occasion.

Maybe I could have people draft each rationale in a forum thread (out of sequence, as they come), and paste those into sequence at MFL, as the draft progresses, and then copy the entire draft back into a forum thread at the end. While that may seem like a circuitous route, I'm quite sure it would simplify my effort. At a minimum, it eliminates the task of setting up placeholders, which gets to be a real pain.
82The Beezer
      ID: 5226248
      Fri, Aug 16, 2013, 19:31
81 - That sounds like a pretty good approach. Worth a shot.
83I_AM_CANADIAN
      ID: 14615220
      Fri, Aug 16, 2013, 20:05
RE 80: OK, wasn't sure if PPR had gotten any traction or not?
84Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sat, Aug 17, 2013, 09:54
[83] PPR discussion never seemed to get much traction this year, and has been voted down several times in the past. So I never bothered putting it up again. There is some value in year-to-year consistency.

85mjd
      Dude
      ID: 501381415
      Tue, Aug 20, 2013, 15:46
Guru, will there be a link to follow all the drafts? Looks like AAA #1 starts today.
86Frick
      ID: 432501512
      Tue, Aug 20, 2013, 15:54
AAA#1 started yesterday, we're midway through round #4.
87Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Aug 21, 2013, 08:53
AAA#1 draft

There are links on that page to toggle between grid format and full format (vertical list).

88Judy
      ID: 54203110
      Wed, Aug 21, 2013, 20:59
Is our draft now open untimed?
89Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Aug 22, 2013, 18:10
Not that I know of. I'll probably open it on Saturday untimed.
90Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Thu, Aug 22, 2013, 18:11
But I don't expect any picks to be made until Sunday. Openings a day early just gives people a chance to set up queues, etc.
91Bonka
      Sustainer
      ID: 019742310
      Thu, Aug 22, 2013, 18:54
You can set queues and other pre draft stuff now.
92I_AM_CANADIAN
      Sustainer
      ID: 01361448
      Fri, Aug 23, 2013, 09:23
FYI - I'm going to be out of town for the next couple days, but will be back at some point on Sunday. I'll try to check-in periodically, but my access will be spotty PRIOR to the 25th.
93Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Fri, Aug 23, 2013, 16:12
[91] True. I'll probably just wait until Sunday to go live, then.
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