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0 Subject: RIFC AAA - 1 2011

Posted by: jseth333 - Dude [24100310] Mon, Aug 08, 2011, 22:23
The home of all league discussion going forward.

The RIFC will be voting this week on potential rules changes. Any changes will be incorporated into this league.

I will use the randomizer built into the mfl draft system to set the order for managers to choose their draft position.

This league will use a "banzai" order, which is the same as a traditional snake except that the 3rd round is reversed. Therefore, the team picking #1 overall will pick last in rounds 2, 3, & 4 so it will look like 1-14, 14-1, 14-1, 14-1, 1-14, 14-1, etc. Please keep that in mind when you make your selection.
1Toral
      ID: 5464267
      Tue, Aug 09, 2011, 14:43 		I received an email invitation to the "RotoGuru Invitational Football Challenge - AA" -- is that the one?
2damoose
      Dude
      ID: 181042723
      Tue, Aug 09, 2011, 14:49 		toral, thats probably not the right one...when i was entering the players into the AA league, i forgot to change one of the email addresses from last year before sending out the invitations.

my apologies.
4jseth333
      Dude
      ID: 24100310
      Thu, Aug 11, 2011, 10:20 		Still need a couple of people to accept the league invite.
5jseth333
      Dude
      ID: 24100310
      Thu, Aug 11, 2011, 22:04 		Need to hear again from Pancho Villa and twilson
6Pancho Villa
      ID: 597172916
      Fri, Aug 12, 2011, 01:20 		I'm in.
7jseth333
      Dude
      ID: 24100310
      Fri, Aug 12, 2011, 16:10 		Still waiting to hear again from twilson and then we can move to selecting draft order, etc.
8Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Fri, Aug 12, 2011, 18:04 		My experience with twilson is that he sometimes needs a lot of pestering before he responds. Be diligent!
9twilson
      ID: 266581621
      Sat, Aug 13, 2011, 09:50 		Sorry everybody, I had gone to the league website the very first day it was available, but apparently did not log into my team. I have done so now.
10TB
      Sherpa
      ID: 031811922
      Sun, Aug 14, 2011, 12:31 		When does the draft start and when are we going to figure out the draft order?
11 jseth333
      Dude
      ID: 24100310
      Mon, Aug 15, 2011, 09:26 		Rules for this year - note no team def this year and some other changes...plan accordingly...

Rules for 2011, as amended by RIFC league vote.


Draft
“Banzai” format: Same as a traditional snake, except the third round is reversed. Thus, the team with the first overall pick has the last pick in rounds 2, 3, and 4.

Roster
1 QB
2 RB
2 WR
1 WR/TE
1 TE
1 K
2 DL
2 LB
2 DB
1 additional IDP (flex)
9 bench
24 Total

Decimal scoring is applied for all categories.

Offense Category Points
(apply to all players, including IDP)
Passing TD 4
Other TD 6 (all TDs, whether on offense, defense, or special teams)
Passing-2pt conv 1
Other-2pt conv 2
Passing yard 1/25 (i.e., .04 per yard)
Rushing yard 1/10 (i.e., .10 per yard)
Receiving yard 1/10
Punt return yard 1/10 (also applies to IDP)
Kick return yard 1/25 (also applies to IDP)
Kick return 0 (no deduction)
Int, fumbles lost -2

Kicking Points
(apply to all players, including IDP)
Extra point made 1
Extra point missed -1
FG under 40 yards 3
FG 40-49 yards 4
FG 50+ yards 5
Missed FG <30 -1
Missed FG 30+ 0

Indiv Defensive Player Points
(apply to all players, including offensive players and kickers)
Solo Tackle 1
Asst Tackle 0.5
Tackle for loss 2
QB hit 1
Pass defensed 1
Sack 1 (half sack=0.5)
Interception 3
Fumble forced 2
Fumble recovery 2
TD 6 (all TDs, whether on offense, defense, or special teams)
Safety 3
Blocked kick (FG, XP, punt) 2

Unlisted players
During the draft, any player may be drafted, regardless of whether or not the player is listed at the hosting game site. Once the draft is completed, unlisted players may not be added to any roster. This applies for any post-draft waiver processing as well.

In the event that a drafted player is not listed after the draft has completed, a placeholder player will be assigned to the drafting team, to be replaced by the drafted player as soon as he is available.

Position eligibility
Except as defined below, a player's position eligibility will be that assigned by the league hosting site.

If a player is listed at one position when drafted and that position is subsequently changed by the hosting site, the manager drafting that player may elect to retain the original position. In this event, that player will keep the drafted position eligibility until he is dropped or traded, at which time the eligibility will revert to the hosting system's default position.

Priority Claiming
All free agents (any players not on a current roster) are subject to a weekly claiming process at noon on Wednesday. Following each of the first 6 weeks of the season, the priorities will reset weekly based on the reverse of W/L percentage (with applicable tiebreakers). After that, priorities will not be reset during the regular season. Throughout the season, when a player is claimed, the claiming team moves to the end of the claiming priority list. Following the final regular season game, priorities will be reset based on playoff seed, with the top seed getting the top priority. Thereafter, throughout the playoffs, priorities will again adjust only when a claim is awarded.

Starting at 3:00pm on each Wednesday, all free agents may be picked up by any team "first come, first served" without any change in priority status. Dropped players will be subject to a one day waiver period, subject to processing rules administered at the hosting site. Managers may not “cycle” though a series of free agents solely for the purpose of blocking them from availability. In such instances, the Commissioner will take appropriate corrective action.

Immediately following the draft, undrafted players will be subject to a priority claiming process, with priorities equal to the reverse of the first round draft order.

Starting five minutes prior to the scheduled start of each NFL game, no player in that game may be dropped, regardless of whether the player is an active or bench player.

Schedule
13 week round robin
Doubleheaders all weeks 1-13 (play each team twice)
Single elimination playoffs, weeks 14-16

Trades and trade deadline
During the draft, trades may include draft picks. Trades will normally be approved immediately by the Commissioner, assuming they are reasonably balanced. If league managers believe an announced trade is unbalanced, they should protest the trade ASAP.

After the draft, trades will be subject to a review period. For the first 24 hours following a trade, managers may protest a trade by posting a message at the RotoGuru forum, or by sending an email to the Commissioner. If at least 3 managers protest a trade within 24 hours of its announcement, then all managers will be polled within the next 24 hours. If seven or more managers vote to veto a trade, then it will not be approved. If a proposed trade is announced less than 24 hours before the earliest freeze for any player involved, then the entire trade will not be processed until the following week.

If a trade does not receive at least 3 protests, then it will be effective 24 hours after it is announced. If a trade receives at least 3 protests but the protests are not upheld in a full league vote, then the trade will be processed 48 hours after it is announced.

The trade deadline is the weekend following the final week with byes.

Stat corrections
Official stat corrections will be automatically applied. This typically happens on Thursday morning. In the playoffs, this can lead to an issue if a team is suddenly “back in the game”, but that team was unable to make roster moves the prior day. If a stat correction changes a playoff matchup at the last minute, then any impacted team will be given the opportunity to make a last minute roster move, if needed. The Commissioner will attempt to ensure that this provision is enabled as fairly as possible under the circumstances.

During the playoffs, once the first game of the week has started, no stat corrections will be allowed thereafter.

Playoffs
8 teams, single elimination
The 8 teams will be those with the top 6 W/L records plus the two other teams with the most points
The top four seeds will be based on W/L record (including applicable tiebreakers)
Seeds 5-8 will be based on total points for the other four playoff teams
Teams with equivalent W/L records are ranked based on head-to-head first (regardless of the number of teams tied), then total points.
Bracket is fixed (no reseeding after each round)

Players at the primary skill positions (QB, RB, WR) may not be added for any reason during the playoffs. Free agents at these positions will be locked out after the final regular season game. You may drop a player at one of these positions, but once dropped, that player cannot be added later.

Players at the other positions (TE, PK, IDP) may be added or dropped according to normal regular season guidelines, subject to playoff claiming priorities, if applicable.

If a playoff game ends in a tie score, the team with the better seed shall advance.

Teams which are not still active in the Championship playoffs may not make any transactions - adds or drops - even if they are still competing in the Consolation bracket.
12jseth333
      Dude
      ID: 24100310
      Mon, Aug 15, 2011, 09:28 		We can start the draft August 22 but I will probably open it at least by next Sunday for some early weekend drafting.
13 jseth333
      Dude
      ID: 24100310
      Mon, Aug 15, 2011, 09:42 		Email sent by MFL...

Your league commissioner has generated the draft order for your league - you can view the entire order on your Reports > League > Draft page.
Round 1 Draft Order:

TB
Juking Safety
Frick's IR List
Team 8
Holt Institute
supernovas
Nerfherders
Panchovians
Slackjawed Yokels
Da Bomb Squad
VampireWeekend
Wheatfarmers
Donkey Hunters
3 and Out

This draft order was randomly generated by the MyFantasyLeague.com site, ensuring no commissioner bias when determining your draft order.

This order is for everyone to pick their draft slot...copy and paste - and note one more time that the 3rd round - and only the 3rd round - will be reversed - all other rounds will be 'traditional' snake...

TB - the first choice is yours...


1.
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.
14wiggs
      Leader
      ID: 04991311
      Mon, Aug 15, 2011, 09:59 		I will be away from the 21-28, but if you open the league on Sat, I will be able to get some picks in on Sat and Sunday. I will see if I can get someone to draft for me while I am away. I dont think it will be a problem.
15 jseth333
      Dude
      ID: 24100310
      Mon, Aug 15, 2011, 11:03 		Wiggs - I will plan on doing that.

Team 8 is twilson
16wiggs
      Leader
      ID: 04991311
      Mon, Aug 15, 2011, 11:11 		Farn will be taking care of my picks while I am away- he is a broncos fan so please keep an eye on him. I do not want broncos :)
17Frick
      ID: 5310541617
      Mon, Aug 15, 2011, 11:24 		So we can plan on Tebow being a 2nd round pick, 3rd at the latest?
18wiggs
      Leader
      ID: 04991311
      Mon, Aug 15, 2011, 11:27 		he said 1st round- but i am hoping to pick my 1st pick myself to avoid this issue :)
19TB
      Sherpa
      ID: 031811922
      Mon, Aug 15, 2011, 16:34 		My bad. I saw the email earlier and thought it was our actual order or would have checked in here. I was excited to have the first pick, because that never happened before, but now that that has worn off, think I will pick 5th.

1.
2.
3.
4.
5. TB
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.
20jseth333
      Dude
      ID: 24100310
      Mon, Aug 15, 2011, 17:28 		Juking Safety - pick your spot
21s R
      ID: 43647261
      Tue, Aug 16, 2011, 02:48 		1.
2.
3.
4. Juking Safety
5. TB
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.

Frick is up
22Frick
      ID: 5310541617
      Tue, Aug 16, 2011, 08:39 		1.
2.
3.
4. Juking Safety
5. TB
6.
7. Frick
8.
9.
10.
11.
12.
13.
14.
23twilson
      ID: 221142214
      Tue, Aug 16, 2011, 11:01 		1.
2.
3.
4. Juking Safety
5. TB
6.
7. Frick
8.
9.
10.
11. twilson
12.
13.
14.
24holt
      ID: 566231915
      Tue, Aug 16, 2011, 11:48 		1.
2.
3.
4. Juking Safety
5. TB
6.
7. Frick
8.
9.
10.
11. twilson
12.
13.
14. holt
25 jseth333
      Dude
      ID: 24100310
      Tue, Aug 16, 2011, 12:10 		Wiggs up next
26wiggs
      Leader
      ID: 04991311
      Tue, Aug 16, 2011, 12:22 		1.
2.
3.
4. Juking Safety
5. TB
6.
7. Frick
8.
9.
10.
11. twilson
12.
13. wiggs
14. holt
27Nerfherders
      ID: 2829613
      Tue, Aug 16, 2011, 13:29 		I only have access from my iPhone so just gonna say give me spot #10. Thanks
28 jseth333
      Dude
      ID: 24100310
      Tue, Aug 16, 2011, 13:44 		1.
2.
3.
4. Juking Safety
5. TB
6.
7. Frick
8.
9.
10. Nerfherders
11. twilson
12.
13. wiggs
14. holt
29Pancho Villa
      ID: 597172916
      Tue, Aug 16, 2011, 14:01 		1.
2.
3.
4. Juking Safety
5. TB
6. Pancho Villa
7. Frick
8.
9.
10. Nerfherders
11. twilson
12.
13. wiggs
14. holt
30TB
      Sherpa
      ID: 031811922
      Tue, Aug 16, 2011, 14:44 		1.
2.
3.
4. s R/Juking Safety
5. TB
6. Pancho Villa
7. Frick's IR List
8.
9.
10. Nerfherders
11. twilson/Team 8
12.
13. wiggs/supernovas
14. Holt Institute


Slackjawed Yokels
Da Bomb Squad
VampireWeekend
Wheatfarmers
Donkey Hunters
3 and Out
31Slackjawed Yokel
      ID: 6710121
      Tue, Aug 16, 2011, 21:20 		1.
2.
3. Slackjawed Yokel
4. s R/Juking Safety
5. TB
6. Pancho Villa
7. Frick's IR List
8.
9.
10. Nerfherders
11. twilson/Team 8
12.
13. wiggs/supernovas
14. Holt Institute
32Da Bomb
      Donor
      ID: 487112814
      Tue, Aug 16, 2011, 21:47 		1. Da Bomb
2.
3. Slackjawed Yokel
4. s R/Juking Safety
5. TB
6. Pancho Villa
7. Frick's IR List
8.
9.
10. Nerfherders
11. twilson/Team 8
12.
13. wiggs/supernovas
14. Holt Institute

VampireWeekend
Wheatfarmers
Donkey Hunters
3 and Out
33jseth333
      Dude
      ID: 24100310
      Tue, Aug 16, 2011, 22:17 		1. Da Bomb
2.
3. Slackjawed Yokel
4. s R/Juking Safety
5. TB
6. Pancho Villa
7. Frick's IR List
8.
9. VampireWeekend
10. Nerfherders
11. twilson/Team 8
12.
13. wiggs/supernovas
14. Holt Institute


Wheatfarmers
Donkey Hunters
3 and Out
34Toral
      ID: 5464267
      Wed, Aug 17, 2011, 04:21 		1. Da Bomb
2.
3. Slackjawed Yokel
4. s R/Juking Safety
5. TB
6. Pancho Villa
7. Frick's IR List
8.
9. VampireWeekend
10. Nerfherders
11. twilson/Team 8
12. Toral/Wheatfarmers
13. wiggs/supernovas
14. Holt Institute

Donkey Hunters
3 and Out


35Donkey Hunters
      ID: 54726178
      Wed, Aug 17, 2011, 09:26 		1. Da Bomb
2. Donkey Hunters
3. Slackjawed Yokel
4. s R/Juking Safety
5. TB
6. Pancho Villa
7. Frick's IR List
8.3 and Out
9. VampireWeekend
10. Nerfherders
11. twilson/Team 8
12. Toral/Wheatfarmers
13. wiggs/supernovas
14. Holt Institute

36 jseth333
      Dude
      ID: 24100310
      Wed, Aug 17, 2011, 09:44 		Good work...I will enter into MFL and reverse the third round. I will probably go ahead and open the draft tomorrow or Friday for those that need to set up and/or for those at the top who want to start early...
37jseth333
      Dude
      ID: 24100310
      Wed, Aug 17, 2011, 10:57 		I will also be setting up another thread for draft rationales. I like to do them in groups of 5. They are required. Failure to submit them will go on your permanent record.
38Da Bomb
      Donor
      ID: 487112814
      Wed, Aug 17, 2011, 11:34 		I'll be taking Arian Foster if that can be added automatically when the draft is opened.
39jseth333
      Dude
      ID: 24100310
      Wed, Aug 17, 2011, 18:45 		I was hoping he was going to fall to nine but I will make your pick...
40jseth333
      Dude
      ID: 24100310
      Wed, Aug 17, 2011, 22:20 		I have opened the draft and made the first pick for Da Bomb. There is no obligation and no timer at this point...
41wiggs
      ID: 497411815
      Thu, Aug 18, 2011, 16:42 		Does donkey know he is up and just waiting or should we email him. I am not trying to rush anyone. Just want to know if I should continue to check hourly or wait a few days
42Donkey Hunter
      ID: 53751821
      Thu, Aug 18, 2011, 22:05 		I was going to wait until after this weekends games to make sure AD didnt blow out a knee or something, but the Vikes don't play until Saturday at 10 EST so if we are aiming to finish the first round over the weekend then I will just take him now.

I will probably need an email for my next pick though as it will probably be a week from now.
43 jseth333
      Dude
      ID: 24100310
      Sun, Aug 21, 2011, 17:10 		Ref is up -

After one round, the clock will be set at 6 hours, with a moratorium from 1am-7am EDT. The clock will continue to run on weekends.
44Ref
      ID: 33757623
      Sun, Aug 21, 2011, 19:24 		Just got to a computer. Gimem a few...
46jseth333
      Dude
      ID: 24100310
      Mon, Aug 22, 2011, 10:04 		twilson up - would be nice to finish the first round before midnight...
47jseth333
      Dude
      ID: 24100310
      Mon, Aug 22, 2011, 12:36 		Supernovas then Holt to complete the first round...
48Farn @work
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Mon, Aug 22, 2011, 15:51 		I was trying to give wiggs a chance to make his first pick but it seems as though he's lost cell reception. I'll make the pick in about an hour when I get home from work.
49jseth333
      Dude
      ID: 24100310
      Mon, Aug 22, 2011, 16:37 		Excellent - I was just starting to try to track you down...
50holt
      ID: 40711121
      Mon, Aug 22, 2011, 19:43 		just got home from work. need some time to look things over.
51holt
      ID: 40711121
      Mon, Aug 22, 2011, 22:02 		trying to figure out how to make my picks. no idea.
52holt
      ID: 40711121
      Mon, Aug 22, 2011, 22:07 		Is there somewhere to select the players I want? On the draft page I click my team name but it just takes me to my useless team home page. I want McFadden and Mendenhall but I'd like to know how to pick them on my own for future reference. MFL just has too many links all over all the place.
53holt
      ID: 40711121
      Mon, Aug 22, 2011, 22:15 		nvm - I found it. up under the "for owners" thing at the top.
54jseth333
      Dude
      ID: 24100310
      Mon, Aug 22, 2011, 22:26 		Farn up for Wiggs...

I am starting the clock...
55Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Mon, Aug 22, 2011, 22:57 		That took me 15 minutes to figure out for my first pick too.

Pick made for wiggs. 2 picks down, he can officially hate me. :)
56Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Tue, Aug 23, 2011, 08:49 		Is there a place where the clock is counting down or do you just have to do the math in your head based on the last pick?
57Toral
      ID: 5464267
      Tue, Aug 23, 2011, 09:34 		You can see it in the "Draft Status" module on the home page.
58TB
      Sherpa
      ID: 031811922
      Tue, Aug 23, 2011, 19:12 		Yawn...
59Jseth333
      ID: 4929168
      Tue, Aug 23, 2011, 20:42 		Just wait until we get to the excitement of the 19th - 23rd rounds...
60Ref
      ID: 33757623
      Wed, Aug 24, 2011, 13:36 		just got to a pc...gimme a min...
61TB
      Sherpa
      ID: 031811922
      Wed, Aug 24, 2011, 20:59 		How come it keeps showing the Commissioner logging in? Is the Commissioner Lockout at yes or no?
62Pancho Villa
      ID: 597172916
      Wed, Aug 24, 2011, 21:22 		Don't know how I timed out. I had 3 players in que and only 1 was taken. Can I pick now?
63jseth333
      Dude
      ID: 24100310
      Wed, Aug 24, 2011, 22:20 		yes - you can pick at any time
64Pancho Villa
      ID: 597172916
      Wed, Aug 24, 2011, 22:45 		I have tried several ways to try and pick, and it only sets me up for the next round. Help please.
65jseth333
      Dude
      ID: 24100310
      Wed, Aug 24, 2011, 22:57 		Sent you an email
66Nerfherders
      ID: 417531814
      Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 11:07 		MFL might be solid as far as features, but it's user interface has left a lot to be desired. Every time I have to make a pick I actually have to sit there for about a minute and try to remember which set of buttons to press to get to that place.
67Frick
      ID: 387512315
      Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 11:18 		I agree, lots of features, but all buried under different menus and no good guide on how to get around.
68Khahan
      ID: 373143013
      Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 11:50 		PV, I'm having the same problem in the AA league. One of my picks the que worked just fine. For the pick we're on now, I've set my draft list and I've set a round 4 specific que. Right now I'm not showing a pre-selected draft note like others are.
69TB
      ID: 77112512
      Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 13:19 		How come it keeps showing the Commissioner logging in?

Is the Commissioner Lockout at yes or no?
70jseth333
      Dude
      ID: 24100310
      Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 13:22 		I am not logging in an out - I am just moving around the site to re-familiarize myself with the features, etc as I am out of practice. I typically do not turn on the lockout until after the draft.
71TB
      ID: 77112512
      Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 13:22 		Commissioner Lockout is under setup/abilities. If it is at Yes, the commish cannot see our queues. If it is at No (and this is where my concern is) then anyone with commish password can see who other players have queued.
72TB
      ID: 77112512
      Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 13:23 		Sorry, was double-posting there and didn't see you replied. I have it locked in another league and only turn it on when needed then turn it right back off.
73Nerfherders
      ID: 417531814
      Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 16:09 		Is there a way to have MFL send you an email when your pick is up?
74jseth333
      Dude
      ID: 24100310
      Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 16:33 		Have not fully re-explored but I think there are options under Franchise Setup - Contact Info and choose the Email Tab
75holt
      ID: 566231915
      Thu, Aug 25, 2011, 18:15 		Something came up and I have to go watch my brother's kids for 3-4 hrs. Take your time on these picks here. I'll pick as soon as I get back home. I can't log in to set up a queue from where I am right now. Sorry if I hold things up. I don't like doing that.
76Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Fri, Aug 26, 2011, 09:24 		If nobody ejects I'd like to wait a couple of hours. Wiggs is supposed to get smartphone reception today. I'm not exactly sure when but if its in the next couple of hours I'd like to have him have a chance to make his next pick.
77jseth333
      Dude
      ID: 24100310
      Fri, Aug 26, 2011, 10:55 		Why not just grab Tebow now?
78Pancho Villa
      ID: 597172916
      Fri, Aug 26, 2011, 11:12 		I have a senior golf qualifying tournament today in an hour. I have a short que set, which might be gone. Although cell phones are banned on the course during play, I can check email on the turn and text a pick if I'm holding things up or timing out.
79Nerfherders
      ID: 417531814
      Fri, Aug 26, 2011, 11:16 		Shouldn't it be time to start rationales?
80Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Fri, Aug 26, 2011, 11:46 		[76] If nobody ejects...

heh, heh
81Toral
      ID: 5464267
      Fri, Aug 26, 2011, 11:50 		Should we start rationales now, or a round or two after the 5th round has ended (sometimes it's too revealing of future plans to give a full rationale right after you pick....)
82jseth333
      Dude
      ID: 24100310
      Fri, Aug 26, 2011, 11:55 		Let's start after the completion of round 7...I will set up a different thread.
83Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Fri, Aug 26, 2011, 12:26 		Oh Guru.... :)

Ok, wiggs hasn't appeared. The league site is blocked at school. Jseth, could you give wiggs Steve Johnson, Buff, WR?
84Toral
      ID: 5464267
      Fri, Aug 26, 2011, 12:28 		No he can't because Johnson was drafted at 5.04.
85jseth333
      Dude
      ID: 24100310
      Fri, Aug 26, 2011, 12:39 		Tebow it is then...
86jseth333
      Dude
      ID: 24100310
      Fri, Aug 26, 2011, 12:49 		Need a pick - the timer will run out shortly...
87jseth333
      Dude
      ID: 24100310
      Fri, Aug 26, 2011, 12:57 		Temporarily shut-off timer in an effort to sort this out.
88Farn @ work
      ID: 377472411
      Fri, Aug 26, 2011, 12:58 		ooop. No idea how I mised that. Kenny Britt was next on my list I believe.
89jseth333
      Dude
      ID: 24100310
      Fri, Aug 26, 2011, 13:12 		Kenny Britt is it - turning timer back on...
90jseth333
      Dude
      ID: 24100310
      Fri, Aug 26, 2011, 15:07 		Not sure where everyone is - please speak up if you may experience Hurricane impacts this weekend...
91Frick
      ID: 387512315
      Fri, Aug 26, 2011, 16:33 		The nearest ocean is 700 miles away, so I should be good.
92Da Bomb
      Donor
      ID: 487112814
      Fri, Aug 26, 2011, 17:03 		I'm in hurricane territory, but have a smartphone, so I think that should be ok, I think.
93Farn @ work
      ID: 377472411
      Fri, Aug 26, 2011, 17:24 		I can't remember where wiggs was going but I want to say it was somewhere down south. Hopefully he becomes available today. I will probably try to take the full time tonight to give him a chance to check in.
94twilson
      ID: 221142214
      Fri, Aug 26, 2011, 17:55 		I live in Hoboken, but will be going to my parent's house in NW NJ on Saturday to ride the storm out. They have a generator, but if the telephone lines get knocked out, I will lose computer internet access. Also have a smartphone, so hopefully at least one of cell towers and phone lines survive.
95 jseth333
      Dude
      ID: 24100310
      Fri, Aug 26, 2011, 18:59 		If you run into trouble let me know via email or posting here if you can...with the obvious understanding that this draft may not be the most important thing you are dealing with - be careful out or in there...I will monitor the draft for any needed time adjustments and we will work through it...
96Toral
      ID: 5464267
      Sat, Aug 27, 2011, 08:48 		Draft pause doesn't seem to be set to run on weekends. Wiggs timed out in middle of night.
97jseth333
      Dude
      ID: 24100310
      Sat, Aug 27, 2011, 09:24 		Arghhhh...When I paused the timer yesterday to clear up the confusion over Steve Johnson who had already been drafted, I failed to set the pause properly when I turned the timer back on. I am going to turn the timer off again until I hear from wiggs or farn...
98Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Sat, Aug 27, 2011, 09:27 		I'm awake now. I still have not heard from wiggs. Let me take a couple of hours to see if he appears so he can make both picks. If not I'll make both picks.
99TB
      Sherpa
      ID: 031811922
      Sat, Aug 27, 2011, 10:01 		You should make both picks now. He should be getting skipped for missing his last pick. You don't get another 6 hours to burn.
100TB
      Sherpa
      ID: 031811922
      Sat, Aug 27, 2011, 10:25 		Just read above that the clock never paused during the time it should have, but that mistake was caused because it was paused for this team the last time they missed a pick. Which begs the question, why even have a clock if we are going to pause it when people miss their pick? Even though this team is averaging 4 hours per pick through 7 picks, I probably wouldn't mind so much because I have played with both Farn and Wiggs for years, but we have 9 managers averaging over an hour per pick with five of those managers averaging 3-7 hours per pick. That is insane. We started out fast, but have been passed by the RIFC (by 2+ rounds) and the AA league who both started drafting after us. A couple of you need to step your draft game up.
101Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Sat, Aug 27, 2011, 10:31 		TB, the clock was paused yesterday when I posted from work asking to pick a guy who had been picked. My mistake. But..... I did not take more than 6hrs with the repick. When I came back to the board and saw my mistake I made another pick, which still fell under the 6hr window. So no, we didn't go over the timeslot.

That said, if you don't care that wiggs gets a chance to draft as many of his players as possible I'm sorry. I'm trying to be fair. Considering I went to bed and it wasn't my pick, and then I timed out while sleeping, which wasn't fair, and then had 2 picks made after that by someone who didn't recognize the clock error, I'd say I'm being pretty fair by saying nothing.

All I'm asking for is a little consideration for wiggs. Its early on a Saturday (730am where I live) so I don't think its too much to ask to wait another hour and see if wiggs, who may be effected by the hurricane, appears and has some input.
102jseth333
      Dude
      ID: 24100310
      Sat, Aug 27, 2011, 11:18 		I am heading out - I am turning the timer back on and hopefully re-setting the pause properly...
103Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Sat, Aug 27, 2011, 11:33 		jseth, hold on. Not sure I can make the pick that it skipped.
104Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Sat, Aug 27, 2011, 11:34 		Stop draft please.

It will not let me make the Round 7 pick. I want Julius Peppers with the other pick but there is no option to make that pick.
105Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Sat, Aug 27, 2011, 11:57 		I inserted Peppers for 7.13

Carry on...
106Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Sat, Aug 27, 2011, 12:05 		Thanks Guru.
107TB
      Sherpa
      ID: 031811922
      Sat, Aug 27, 2011, 12:16 		Farn, we go back a ways and I am just using this situation to have my annual rant about the slow draft. I want Wiggs to draft his team and understand the situation. I'd just like to see more than half the league step up and get their picks done in a timely manner.
108Farn
      Leader
      ID: 451044109
      Sat, Aug 27, 2011, 12:19 		Yeah, I totally understand. Wiggs and I are always going back and forth about slow drafts. So I definitely get your point. I just received a text from wiggs so he's back in cell reception. We (and soon he) should no longer cause any delay when drafting.

Thanks for your patience guys.
109TB
      Sherpa
      ID: 031811922
      Sat, Aug 27, 2011, 21:05 		Read the commish email. Let's get real. These are the managers that need to pick up their draft pace:

Franchise Avg. Wait Time
Donkey Hunters 2 hours, 59 minutes
Slackjawed Yokels 6 hours, 19 minutes
Panchovians 1 hour, 31 minutes
Frick's IR List 1 hour, 24 minutes
3 and Out 5 hours, 30 minutes
twilson's Milchian Magicians 4 hours, 26 minutes
supernovas 4 hours, 41 minutes


Hell, let's get even more real. Five of the seven managers resonsible for slowing this draft down to a snails pace aren't even using the queue system.

Donkey Hunters- currently 3+ hours in to his draft pick
Frick's IR List - no queue pending
3 and Out - no queue pending
twilson's Milchian Magicians - no queue pending
supernovas - no queue pending


We are now four full rounds behind the RIFC and we were ahead of them 2 days ago.
110Frick
      ID: 52182321
      Sat, Aug 27, 2011, 21:54 		I hadn't realized I had been such a hold up, but when I looked at my picks times for the first few rounds, I obviously was. The queue system at MFL, like the rest of the site, has a steep learning curve. I'll try to have a queue for the rest of my picks set up.
111Slackjawed Yokel
      ID: 6710121
      Sat, Aug 27, 2011, 22:21 		dude. the clock didn't officially start until monday, so you shouldn't count the times for last weekend - else my average is an hour. Nobody said this was going to be a fast draft. It is a slow live draft.
112TB on Evo
      ID: 27782314
      Sat, Aug 27, 2011, 23:52 		I just rant/sperg about the draft being slow. It's my thing.
113TB
      Sherpa
      ID: 031811922
      Sun, Aug 28, 2011, 00:23 		Home now and have a good buzz. Slackjawed Yokel, I just copied what was available, but I am with you. The 2 days it took you to select Charles really screws your average draft time up. I did see that you had been using queues since and had continued to drop your ADT down quite a bit.


FWIW, if we all use our 6 hours we'd get 4 picks in a day. While some people might think they are entitled to using the full clock every pick it's more like a fall-back plan for when you are busy as shit and just can't pick right away every now and then.
114wiggs
      ID: 497411815
      Sun, Aug 28, 2011, 08:21 		I will guarantee u my picks will be quicker now that I am back in the states. I informed the group I would be away last week and farn did the best he could and I totally appreciative all he did for me. I think that the 1 round taking so long messed us up too. He was waiting to see who I wanted to pick for round 1 and it never got to me for the 1st 5 days. Anyone who has drafted with me knows I am a quick drafter
115Donkey Hunter
      ID: 54315821
      Sun, Aug 28, 2011, 10:57 		Hell, let's get even more real. Five of the seven managers resonsible for slowing this draft down to a snails pace aren't even using the queue system.

Donkey Hunters- currently 3+ hours in to his draft pick

Before the skipped pick yesterday and not counting the 24 hours to take Adrian Peterson, I have made 6 of my 7 picks by autodraft and the one I did not make that way took 13 minutes.

In fact up until the point you made your post I would guess I was probably one of the fastest drafters out there and was obviously using the queue system.
116TB
      Sherpa
      ID: 031811922
      Sun, Aug 28, 2011, 12:01 		Sober now. Ranting about the draft is still my thing. Good to see people a little fired up about it.

I am going shooting with my friends for a couple hours. I will pick when I get back if it gets to me by then.
117TB
      Sherpa
      ID: 031811922
      Sun, Aug 28, 2011, 14:40 		I checked my email from the shooting range, saw I was up, and tried to make my pick from my evo, but he wasn't listed on my draft list and I couldn't figure out how to make it scroll to find him (the entire page was scrolling instead of player list).

The good news is the new S&W M&P 15-22 that I bought is accurate, works perfectly, the ammo is dirt cheap, and it is fun as hell to shoot. Great addition to my collection.
118holt
      ID: 40711121
      Mon, Aug 29, 2011, 01:01 		Yep I ended up buying a Beretta Neos .22 just to extend how many rounds I can blow off in one outing. Cheap ammo is good. Bought a .22 rifle for my nephew a few months ago too.

I put a red dot sight on the Neos and it's unreal how accurate it is. Nothing like throwing a can out in front of you and seeing how far you can move it back with just 11 rounds. Good times. I'm lucky to hit a can once with my .40

Sorry - back to football... TB got me started.
119Frick
      ID: 387512315
      Mon, Aug 29, 2011, 08:09 		I apologize, I took some cold medicine last night and just woke up. Good to see that our draft pace appears to have picked up.
120Nerfherders
      ID: 417531814
      Mon, Aug 29, 2011, 11:39 		Is it permissible to do 6-10 rationales now?

This is my last day at home. Starting tomorrow I will be on the road but should have reasonable internet access.
121Toral
      ID: 5464267
      Mon, Aug 29, 2011, 12:03 		And should we put them in the same thread or will we have a new thread for them?
122jseth333
      Dude
      ID: 24100310
      Mon, Aug 29, 2011, 12:27 		Yes - post away. I am open to one long thread unless I hear objection.
123TB
      ID: 77112512
      Mon, Aug 29, 2011, 15:52 		I am going to a live draft for a few hours. Should be home by 7pm to make my pick if the draft comes back around to me.
124holt
      ID: 40711121
      Tue, Aug 30, 2011, 21:55 		I hate the idea of this dragging into labor day weekend. RIFC started after us and they're already finished. This is just tooooooo slow.
125jseth333
      Dude
      ID: 24100310
      Tue, Aug 30, 2011, 22:27 		Sent an email to everyone - this draft is sucking the life out of me...going to move to a 3 hour timer on thursday - which is still too long

Let's finish this thing!!!!
126Da Bomb
      Donor
      ID: 487112814
      Wed, Aug 31, 2011, 01:20 		To get emails when you are up in the draft:
For owners ->franchise setup->contact info->check "when I'm on the clock for my draft"
127holt
      ID: 566231915
      Wed, Aug 31, 2011, 11:03 		I'm here - making my picks shortly
128Da Bomb
      Donor
      ID: 487112814
      Wed, Aug 31, 2011, 14:39 		I think TB has a case for biggest homer on the boards ;)
129TB
      ID: 77112512
      Wed, Aug 31, 2011, 17:26 		lol, yeah. Having fun picking a bunch of players I want to actually root for. This might be my last year playing the slow-draft RIFC format anyway so thought I'd have a bit of fun. The truth is I expect each one drafted to perform well for their draft position, especially Boss. Dude is going to have Miller-like numbers in Oakland as long as he is healthy.
130Frick
      ID: 52182321
      Wed, Aug 31, 2011, 19:48 		Ahh, the sweet taste of kool-aid, right before it kills you.
131TB
      Sherpa
      ID: 031811922
      Wed, Aug 31, 2011, 20:39 		I've been drinking that Kool-aid the last seven season. I am immune to it's poisons.
132holt
      ID: 40711121
      Thu, Sep 01, 2011, 00:09 		damn it I can't believe the draft moved this fast. I apologize to everyone. was visiting a relative and kind of got stuck there all evening, unexpectedly.
133wiggs
      ID: 6772010
      Thu, Sep 01, 2011, 00:33 		Something happened with my pick- I had terrell thomas Giants DB at the top of my queue and it took bailey. Thomas is still sitting in my queue. Can this be changed?
134holt
      ID: 40711121
      Thu, Sep 01, 2011, 00:42 		go check his news. I don't think you want him anyway.
135wiggs
      ID: 6772010
      Thu, Sep 01, 2011, 00:47 		good to know, maybe there was something blocking him from my pick. I have been out of the country for 10 days and I missed this. Nevermind- I do not want him anymore.

Thanks Holt.
136holt
      ID: 40711121
      Thu, Sep 01, 2011, 00:51 		np - They must block guys on IR from being picked. not a bad feature.
137wiggs
      Leader
      ID: 04991311
      Thu, Sep 01, 2011, 00:58 		Great feature
138TB
      Sherpa
      ID: 031811922
      Thu, Sep 01, 2011, 02:04 		What is up with Ref drafting my kicker?
139PV On golf course
      ID: 18621911
      Thu, Sep 01, 2011, 18:09 		If it gets to me and I have mo que just skip me
140TB
      Sherpa
      ID: 031811922
      Fri, Sep 02, 2011, 16:29 		AAA Goofy Draft Stats

Put all this together on excel, but here are some numbers.


Biggest Homers:
Holt Institute (STL) - 5
Nerfherders (KCC) - 5
TB (OAK) - 5

Nerfherders (DET) - 4

3 and Out (JAC) - 3
3 and Out (OAK) - 3
Donkey Hunters (WAS) - 3
Frick's IR List (PIT) - 3
Holt Institute (ARI) - 3
Juking Safety (CAR) - 3
Nerfherders (PHI) - 3
Slackjawed Yokels (WAS) - 3
supernovas (NEP) - 3
TB (BUF) - 3
VampireWeekend (ATL) - 3
VampireWeekend (HOU) - 3
VampireWeekend (JAC) - 3


No more than 2 players per any NFL team:
Da Bomb Squad
Juking Safety
Panchovians
twilson's Milchian Magicians
Wheatfarmers



Number of times more than one player per NFL team:
Da Bomb Squad (8)
Frick's IR List (7)
Panchovians (7)
Nerfherders (6)
Slackjawed Yokels (6)
supernovas (6)
twilson's Milchian Magicians (6)
VampireWeekend (6)
Wheatfarmers (6)
3 and Out (5)
Donkey Hunters (5)
Holt Institute (5)
Juking Safety (4)
TB (4)

NFL Team Data

Number of players drafted per team
14 - OAK
13 - IND, NEP, PIT, STL
12 - ARI, ATL, CHI, DET, GBP, HOU, WAS
11 - BAL, CLE, DEN, PHI
10 - CAR, DAL, KCC, MIN, NOS, SFO
9 - BUF, JAC, SDC, SEA
8 - CIN, MIA, NYG, NYJ, TEN
6 - TBB


Most Drafted by Least Managers
KCC - 10 players by 5 managers (2.0)
OAK - 14 players by 7 managers (2.0)
STL - 13 players by 7 managers (1.9)
JAC - 9 players by 5 managers (1.8)

Least Drafted by Most Managers
TEN - 8 players by 8 managers (1.0)
CLE - 11 players by 10 managers (1.1)
SDC - 9 players by 8 managers (1.1)
CIN - 8 players by 7 managers (1.1)
NYG - 8 players by 7 managers (1.1)


Biggest Equal Opportunity Employer to Least (Number of different teams drafted from)
19
Juking Safety

18
Donkey Hunters
twilson's Milchian Magicians
Wheatfarmers

17
3 and Out
Panchovians
Slackjawed Yokels
supernovas

16
Da Bomb Squad
Frick's IR List
TB

15
Holt Institute
VampireWeekend

12
Nerfherders



Lastly, this caught my eye during the draft. Chad Ochocinco was drafted 85th by Da Bomb Squad. Maybe a good omen for his team.
141Frick
      ID: 52182321
      Fri, Sep 02, 2011, 18:18 		I'm curious why Oakland ended up with the most drafted players. Was it due to the uncertainty of their WRs?
142TB
      Sherpa
      ID: 031811922
      Fri, Sep 02, 2011, 19:42 		Yeah, WR situation for sure. There is also a good chance Schilens or Hagans, both undrafted, turn out to be two of the higher producing WR from that squad instead of anyone drafted.

1 QB Campbell (bye week QB)
1 Kicker Seabass (starter)
1 TE Boss (bye week/possible starts)
1 LB McClain (starter)
1 DL Shaughnessy (starter)
2 DB Branch & Huff (starters)
3 RB McFadden (starter), Bush (RB3/bye week), Jones (dark horse if McFadden gets hurt - potential)
4 WR Ford (starter), Moore (PR & camp sensation - potential), DHB (dark horse to produce 3rd season), Murphy (been most consistent WR last couple seasons, guessing play time drops with Moore, Hagan, and Schilens).

Wouldn't be surprised to see the already mentioned Schilens or Hagan on rosters this season, along with Houston, Kelly, or Seymour (if someone needs some DL for a week or two), Wimbley (if he starts racking up sacks again), and one of our young DB's if Routt or Johnson get hurt. Them young guys can't cover yet so will get picked on a lot if called into action which will mean lots of tackles and some PD. Van Dyke (probable CB3), Chekwa (raw) , McFadden (raw - expecting he gets cut), Sterling Moore (may be best of the bunch but was undrafted so no idea if he makes team), and Ware.
143Toral
      ID: 5688310
      Sat, Sep 03, 2011, 11:09 		Don't neglect to check out the "Draft Recap" (League/Draft). It's a hoot.
144TB
      Sherpa
      ID: 031811922
      Sun, Sep 04, 2011, 23:50 		I am not logging in an out - I am just moving around the site to re-familiarize myself with the features, etc as I am out of practice. I typically do not turn on the lockout until after the draft.

Draft is over. Time to turn it on.
145Judy
      ID: 54203110
      Mon, Sep 05, 2011, 18:52 		Toral you and I matched up a bit in the beginning of the draft. Good luck!
146Donkey Hunter
      ID: 53751821
      Mon, Sep 05, 2011, 22:07 		I picked someone up off the free agent list but it looks like I was the first move. I vaguely remember getting an email about when it was allowed and don't remember what day I could start doing pickups. So if it was not allowed yet, please reverse it.
147jseth333
      Dude
      ID: 24100310
      Tue, Sep 06, 2011, 08:54 		Supposed to only be waivers until tomorrow morning...I have reversed the move
148TB
      Sherpa
      ID: 031811922
      Tue, Sep 06, 2011, 19:35 		Ref made a free agent move today before waivers are scheduled to run.

Looking at the league calendar, looks like the problem is there isn't a "No Free Agent Moves" currently listed prior to waivers being ran.

Then again, I don't know if I am reading it correctly and it is saying waivers will run at 8pm tonight.
149jseth333
      Dude
      ID: 24100310
      Tue, Sep 06, 2011, 22:13 		I attempted to match Guru's calendar entry for entry so I am not sure exactly where things went wrong...free agents are supposed to begin in the morning...
150wiggs
      Leader
      ID: 04991311
      Fri, Sep 09, 2011, 00:10 		OMG- I really blew this- I submitted an illegal line up because I didnt start 2 DBs, now I missed my brees start. SOB
151TB
      Sherpa
      ID: 031811922
      Fri, Sep 09, 2011, 18:52 		I went and checked and my second DB, Morgan Burnett, wasn't in my starting line-up either. I just dropped Jacquizz Rodgers to pick up Antoine Bethea, who I originally dropped to pick up and start Burnett. I didn't plan on carrying more than two DB all year and I am pretty damn sure I set and triple-checked all my line-ups. I just took a screen-shot of my starting line-up confirmation this time.
152wiggs
      Leader
      ID: 04991311
      Fri, Sep 09, 2011, 19:17 		I have never been in a league that doesnt allow you to submit a line up if you are missing a guy. I know you couldnt if you had an extra.
153Toral
      ID: 5688310
      Fri, Sep 09, 2011, 19:22 		wiggs: RIFC changed its rules (post 160) this year to allow incomplete lineups. If those rules apply here, as I think they are supposed to, you should get your points if the commish can manage to convince the game platform.
154jseth333
      Dude
      ID: 24100310
      Sat, Sep 10, 2011, 00:13 		Wiggs

According to what I see on the site you did not submit your first lineup until after the Green Bay - New Orleans game started - Thu Sep 8 11:28:32 p.m. ET 2011 according to the system. Dalton, Andy CIN QB, Gore, Frank SFO RB, Green-Ellis, BenJarvus NEP RB, Branch, Deion NEP WR, Britt, Kenny TEN WR, Jackson, Vincent SDC WR, Gonzalez, Tony ATL TE, Buehler, David DAL PK, Peppers, Julius CHI DE, Beason, Jon CAR LB, James, Bradie DAL LB, McClain, Rolando OAK LB, Bailey, Champ DEN CB

Thu Sep 8 11:30:26 p.m. ET 2011 you submitted an invalid roster because you had selected 4 WR (Max 3).

Thu Sep 8 11:31:51 p.m. ET 2011 you submitted another invalid roster because you had selected 4 WR (Max 3)

Fri Sep 9 12:00:05 a.m. ET 2011 you submitted a valid lineup - Dalton, Andy CIN QB, Gore, Frank SFO RB, Green-Ellis, BenJarvus NEP RB, Branch, Deion NEP WR, Britt, Kenny TEN WR, Jackson, Vincent SDC WR, Gonzalez, Tony ATL TE, Buehler, David DAL PK, Peppers, Julius CHI DE, Suggs, Terrell BAL DE, Beason, Jon CAR LB, James, Bradie DAL LB, McClain, Rolando OAK LB, Bailey, Champ DEN CB, Godfrey, Charles CAR S

A lineup of only 1 DB would not be invalid and I do not see anything to indicate that you submitted a lineup with only 1 DB. The only lineups the site said were invalid included 4 WR - the site allows a 'short' lineup but will not allow a 'over max' lineup but again I do not think that was the case in this instance.

If something does not match some information you have let me know.
155jseth333
      Dude
      ID: 24100310
      Sat, Sep 10, 2011, 00:22 		TB - none of the 4 lineups that the system shows that you submitted included Morgan Burnett
156wiggs
      Leader
      ID: 04991311
      Sat, Sep 10, 2011, 00:39 		I believe the 1st line up I submitted was on Wednesday and the message I got said something like you must start 7 defensive players or something like that. Then I messed with putting in 4 lbs and it still didnt work. Finally I thought it went through, but apparently not. Its ok. I will not argue this because it was probably something that I did wrong. I am not use to this site. Thanks
157TB
      Sherpa
      ID: 031811922
      Sat, Sep 10, 2011, 01:23 		jseth, I am guessing I submitted the line-up with Bethea and then after hearing early injury reports and replacing him with Burnett I either didn't submit a new line-up or didn't make sure he had the check mark when I tried to resubmit it. It's irks me because I rechecked every one of my rosters one more time Wednesday night to make sure they were all valid and don't know how I missed it.
158Nerfherders
      ID: 417531814
      Tue, Sep 13, 2011, 10:50 		It looks like my luck with matchups is holding from last year. I was 5-5 when scoring 140+ last year, including 1-1's with 154 and 161 points.
159 Toral
      ID: 5688310
      Tue, Sep 13, 2011, 10:55 		You mean you may have the NerfSked (TM) again?

Terrible start for me, but no obvious grabs with the #2 waiver pick. If anyone has any odeas, let me know -- better for you that the guy goes to me than to some better team!
160Frick
      ID: 387512315
      Tue, Sep 13, 2011, 13:20 		I'm sorry Nerf, I was positive that it was going to be in your position though. I checked the box scores before heading to bed and between the time that I checked and the time I got the game back on, Brady threw is 99 yard TD pass to Welker. I fell asleep certain that I was going to lose despite being at 160. Tough loss, but we do have the final 2 play-off spots going to points scored, not record to help prevent someone from having a string of bad luck.
161Nerfherders
      ID: 417531814
      Tue, Sep 13, 2011, 15:54 		Yeah that's what I kept telling myself last year, except I was 6th in scoring last year (with an 8-18 record) and the two teams who took the 7th and 8th spots were also top 5 in scoring. I think I lost 8th by 3 points.

So yeah, it's unlikely that will happen again, but it has happened.

I wonder how many teams who have Brady lost last week?
162TB
      Sherpa
      ID: 031811922
      Tue, Sep 13, 2011, 22:35 		How is the waiver priority set-up? I noticed I have 11th priority, but am listed in 8th place at 1-1? Even if it is based on record and then points scored, there are two teams at 2-0 with a higher priority.

163TB
      Sherpa
      ID: 031811922
      Tue, Sep 13, 2011, 22:44 		All free agents (any players not on a current roster) are subject to a weekly claiming process at noon on Wednesday. Following each of the first 6 weeks of the season, the priorities will reset weekly based on the reverse of W/L percentage (with applicable tiebreakers).
164TB
      ID: 318221411
      Wed, Sep 14, 2011, 12:22 		Glad I got who I wanted even though the waiver wire order was incorrect.
165Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Sep 14, 2011, 12:30 		TB - I'm trying to figure out what (if anything) went wrong in the waiver priorities. I used the default setting, which I thought was the reverse of the standings.

Your claims do see to be out of synch with that. I guess I'll have to look at this a little more closely next week when priorities reset.

166Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Sep 14, 2011, 12:32 		...although TB is the only team that seems to have been processed out of order.
167Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Wed, Sep 14, 2011, 12:37 		Looks like maybe the priorities defaulted to points only, and not W/L. Will have to make sure that's corrected before next week.
168TB
      ID: 318221411
      Wed, Sep 14, 2011, 12:39 		In RG14 it was off in a couple places as well. I fixed it in the Custom Waiver Order Setup, but then I went to Waiver Request Setup and had to make some changes:

Waiver Request Sort Order - I had to change it to Each round of waivers is the same order as the first round.
Waiver Wire Sort - W/L is first and I changed second to Total Points Scored (shifting H2H to third).

I am hoping it will be good to go for next week.
169jseth333
      Dude
      ID: 24100310
      Fri, Sep 16, 2011, 21:48 		I did not think my first move was going to be getting a new kicker...

Set those lineups!!!!
170TB
      ID: 318221411
      Tue, Sep 20, 2011, 12:27 		I believe the waiver order should be updated to:

VampireWeekend
Da Bomb Squad
Slackjawed Yokels
Wheatfarmers
Juking Safety
3 and Out
Panchovians
twilson's Milchian Magicians
Donkey Hunters
Holt Institute
supernovas
TB
Nerfherders
Frick's IR List
171holt
      ID: 566231915
      Tue, Sep 20, 2011, 17:23 		wow I went from 133 to 146 since last night. qb hits mostly, I guess. it looks like if a game is remotely close, you'll never know the winner til late in the week.
172Nerfherders
      ID: 417531814
      Tue, Sep 20, 2011, 19:53 		From what I've seen it updates most of the Def stuff shortly after a game ends.

If you cant wait, you can always look at the gamebooks on NFL.com and see how many qb hits or TFL should be added.
173jseth333
      Dude
      ID: 24100310
      Tue, Sep 20, 2011, 21:20 		Guru has been setting the waivers, but I think it is correct at the site.

W/L records plus applicable tie-breakers...head to head, then points

So...4 teams at 1-3 with wheatfarmers beating juking safety in the only head to head match-up and juking safety scoring more points than the other 2...

174Guru
      ID: 330592710
      Tue, Sep 20, 2011, 21:26 		I just reversed the posted standings. The first tiebreaker is head-to-head, which creates some unusual effects midseason - but we have no rule that says that waivers should use a different tiebreaker criteria.

So while there is a case to be made that TB's approach makes more intuitive sense (he is strictly using points as the tiebreaker), that's not what our current rule states.

Perhaps this is something to review as a rule adjustment next year. I was actually hoping that the HTH tiebreaker would go away this year, but when put to a vote, it was retained.
175Nerfherders
      ID: 417531814
      Wed, Sep 21, 2011, 12:10 		I can't say I ever liked the HTH rule. It could get really complicated down the stretch. And also I seem to remember it not being applicable in a multiple team tie-breaking situation, although I think we changed that cumulative HTH record.
176TB
      ID: 318221411
      Wed, Sep 21, 2011, 14:00 		Not sure how H2H applies when we are talking multiple teams with the same record who haven't all played each other.
177Ref
      ID: 34731299
      Wed, Sep 21, 2011, 15:17 		This is crazy. I didn't get any waiver requested either week. Had a long list too. The ones I requested weren't even at the top of the points scored, projections or anything. Winning that first week might actually screw me for the rest of the season.
178Toral
      ID: 5688310
      Wed, Sep 21, 2011, 15:39 		A more sensible rule would be to have total points be the tiebreaker for standings for waiver purposes, using HTH only when it comes to figure out the end-of-season standings and playoffs. Especially if it is not possible to program our platform to set waiver order according to our rules. Is this not possible? Even Fantrax could do that and it was the worst mess of a fantasy platform imaginable.
179TB
      ID: 108221922
      Wed, Sep 21, 2011, 19:54 		Ref, how long was your list? I just counted and only seven people were taken in the first "round" of waivers. Two were taken in the second round, and then one each in the third and fourth rounds for a total of 11 waiver claims. Are you sure you are setting the claims up correctly?
180Ref
      ID: 34731299
      Thu, Sep 22, 2011, 12:38 		Yes. Can't remember how many I had last week, but had 3 or 4 this week. None made it to me. I had them set up in each round and in the right priority. It's just that they were snapped up with higher priorities.
181 wiggs
      Leader
      ID: 04991311
      Thu, Sep 22, 2011, 18:10 		Ref- did you set up your 1st round queue with all 4 guys, then set up your 2nd round queue with 3 and so on or did you do 1 player in each round. I made that mistake last season. Not sure if that makes sense, but if it didnt email me and I will see if I can help you more.
182Ref
      ID: 34731299
      Thu, Sep 22, 2011, 21:58 		No. I guess I messed it up afterall. Btw, I am not a fan of MFL.
183Toral
      ID: 5688310
      Thu, Sep 22, 2011, 22:12 		Here's the way you do it. Let's say you are interested in acquiring Able, Baker, Charlie and Denver in that order. For simplicity sake we'll assume that the firs of preference player you're going to drop is Mr. I.R.
no matter whom you pick up is Mr. I.R.

ROUND 1:

Add Able; DROP Mr I.R.
Add Baker: DROP Mr I.R.
Add Charlie; DROP Mr I.R.
Add Denver; DROP Mr I.R.
-------------------------

Hopefully you'll get one of these players, the highest of your preferences available when your turn comes up. But you don't know which one. What you know is that in Round 2 the only one of these players you know can't still be available is Able, because either you got him or someone else did. So you remove him from the top of the list and set up Round 2. We'll assume that in Round 2, who you drop will depend on the position of the player you pick up; it gets a little more complicated.

ROUND 2

ADD Baker; DROP WR5
ADD Charlie; DROP WR5
ADD Denver; DROP IDP7

You complete the process in the same manner, win Round 3 having 2 requests, for Charlie and Denver; and in Round 4 one request, for Denver.

This IMO is the way up-to-date platforms do it, and is much better than, say, CBS, where you have to make waiver requests guessing who other managers are going to take beflore you (because only one ADD request can be made for each player you are willing to DROP.)

Toral
184TB
      ID: 108221922
      Thu, Sep 22, 2011, 22:55 		Well explained, Toral. =)
185jseth333
      Dude
      ID: 24100310
      Mon, Sep 26, 2011, 14:40 		Let's start over...
186Da Bomb
      Donor
      ID: 487112814
      Mon, Sep 26, 2011, 14:57 		Seconded. Let's turn off injuries in the new league.
187Ref
      ID: 34731299
      Thu, Sep 29, 2011, 13:33 		unreal. lost out on all waivers again.
188Da Bomb
      Donor
      ID: 487112814
      Tue, Oct 04, 2011, 18:21 		Wow my team is terrible. Never been in a AA league but I'm certainly on my way.
189Donkey Hunter
      ID: 53751821
      Sun, Oct 09, 2011, 22:12 		I thought I made a trade with Da Bomb Squad on Friday but I have been out of town all weekend and it doesn't seem to have gone through. Anyone know why? Also he dropped one of the players involved this morning.
190Da Bomb
      Donor
      ID: 487112814
      Sun, Oct 09, 2011, 22:41 		Woa, that was accepted? I checked the trades and there was nothing there so I assumed it was rejected, but it was weird that I didn't get an e-mail saying it was, so it was as if it disappeared. That sucks.
191Donkey Hunter
      ID: 53751821
      Sun, Oct 09, 2011, 23:26 		Yeah I didnt get an email or anything also. I wasnt positive it was accepted correctly until I checked the transaction log this evening.
192Da Bomb
      Donor
      ID: 487112814
      Mon, Oct 10, 2011, 01:12 		Worthy to note that I (and assume we) had recieved emails for the counter offers.

jseth-any idea how this happened?
193Donkey Hunter
      ID: 0925100
      Mon, Oct 10, 2011, 01:25 		As did I. Got a rejected email immediately followed by new trade offer email as we went back and forth. Only thing that I can think of is that it never asked me to drop a player since it was a two for one.
194Da Bomb
      Donor
      ID: 487112814
      Mon, Oct 10, 2011, 01:43 		The 2-1 aspect might be it. Pretty dumb though that the site didn't tell you to drop someone after accepting it and just seemingly automatically nuked it because it was an uneven number of players.
195jseth333
      Dude
      ID: 24100310
      Mon, Oct 10, 2011, 21:45 		I am not sure what happened. I do not see any sign of a trade.
196Donkey Hunter
      ID: 53751821
      Mon, Oct 10, 2011, 21:52

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197jseth333
      Dude
      ID: 24100310
      Mon, Oct 10, 2011, 22:44 		For some reason it never made it to the league page that I can see if I am logged in as commissioner or as vampireweekend.




198Nerfherders
      ID: 417531814
      Tue, Oct 11, 2011, 12:04 		Ive already won as many games as I did all of last year, so that's a change in the right direction!
199Da Bomb
      Donor
      ID: 487112814
      Tue, Oct 11, 2011, 14:52 		Did the trade go through now?
If not, jseth can you please do it for us if possible?
Rex Grossman for Curtis Lofton.
200jseth333
      Dude
      ID: 24100310
      Tue, Oct 11, 2011, 17:17 		Da Bomb - Have you accepted the trade at the site? That part is not showing at the site...I only see the offer - which is not a major concern since you are accepting it...but still...
201Da Bomb
      Donor
      ID: 487112814
      Tue, Oct 11, 2011, 17:53 		Yea I accepted it. I have no pending trades now, like it vanished again, but do have a similar screen as to the one posted above for my team page. Pretty weird.
202jseth333
      Dude
      ID: 24100310
      Tue, Oct 11, 2011, 22:44 		Donkey Hunters / Da Bomb Squad Trade
Donkey Hunters gave up Lofton, Curtis ATL LB
Da Bomb Squad gave up Grossman, Rex WAS QB
Tue Oct 11 10:43:27 p.m. ET 2011
203Donkey Hunter
      ID: 53751821
      Sun, Oct 16, 2011, 21:39 		Sure am glad I traded for Grossman. That really solved my bye week problem nicely.
204Da Bomb
      Donor
      ID: 487112814
      Mon, Oct 17, 2011, 14:32 		Yea pretty unfortunate he chose that game to fall flat on his face. I do feel some of your pain though as I started him in another league.
205Nerfherders
      ID: 417531814
      Mon, Oct 24, 2011, 11:39 		Well that sucked. A perfect storm of byes and last minute outs. I really wanted a top three this year. Maybe next year!
206TB
      ID: 108221922
      Tue, Oct 25, 2011, 01:05 		I have a lot of good running backs and am looking to get much better at WR.
207Frick
      ID: 387512315
      Tue, Oct 25, 2011, 08:11 		Tough loss PV. Only 2 teams over 140 points this week and we faced each other. I've been on the other side of that loss a number of times.
208Pancho Villa
      ID: 597172916
      Tue, Oct 25, 2011, 10:35 		Conflicted last night. Had Ngota in another league in a close contest. He didn't help me enough there, but you only needed a couple points. Game was hard to watch; thankfully the World Series provided some decent sports drama for the night.
209Frick
      ID: 387512315
      Tue, Oct 25, 2011, 13:55 		I also had Ngota on my G24 team and ended up losing by .22 points. I couldn't stop watching the game. It was like watching a train wreck happen, I just couldn't turn away.
210jseth333
      Dude
      ID: 24100310
      Mon, Nov 07, 2011, 16:51 		I was so close to putting in the right 2 running backs this week...
211 holt
      ID: 108501712
      Tue, Nov 08, 2011, 19:04 		TB - I'd be interested in Michael Bush, since I have DMC. I looked at it and didn't see any obvious offer to make. I don't have any depth at wr, doubt you need V Davis. anyway, if you see something, lemme know.
212TB
      ID: 451028614
      Tue, Nov 08, 2011, 23:36 		I looked over your roster and don't see a 1 for 1 either, but will shoot an offer.
213Frick
      ID: 387512315
      Fri, Nov 11, 2011, 08:05 		Big match-up this weekend as Holt and I play again. I need a win to have a chance in the tie-breakers as he won our first meeting.

Looking at my points against, of course I'm playing the team that is starting Moore.

Good luck to everyone this weekend.
214TB
      ID: 451028614
      Fri, Nov 11, 2011, 09:55 		Denarius Moore made a couple great grabs last night. It's extra special when the player is on both your favorite team and your fantasy team and has a game like that.

The silver lining for your team is that a trade with Holt for Bush didn't work out and at the last minute I decided to go ahead and stick with Fred Jackson over Bush this week.
215Nerfherders
      ID: 310111515
      Tue, Nov 15, 2011, 01:26 		This has quickly become a lost season for me, but I do have the excuse of getting married 10 days ago.

A bad combination of injuries and bye weeks, with zero depth did me in. Now I'll be in Europe for two weeks and will have very few chances make changes from my regular lineup. Looks like that will be it for me.
216Frick
      ID: 387512315
      Tue, Nov 15, 2011, 10:44 		Glad I went 2-0 this week. Next week looks rough with Byes and injuries. Interesting play-off landscape shaping up. Twilson and Nerfherders are in the 7th and 8th spots atm. But, 3 strong weeks might be enough to get any team into the play-offs at the moment.
217holt
      ID: 108501712
      Tue, Nov 15, 2011, 11:20 		good game frick. I was just happy to put up a solid week. looking forward to McFadden coming back sometime this season. McCluster's name starts with "Mc" but that's where the similarity ends.
218Toral
      ID: 010321615
      Wed, Nov 16, 2011, 16:32 		Holt:

Antoine Winfield is out for the season.

Toral
219Da Bomb
      Donor
      ID: 487112814
      Thu, Nov 17, 2011, 21:49 		Is there another way to pick up a player that was dropped besides waivers? I put in a waiver claim for David Nelson but saw he was picked up as a FA today.
220holt
      ID: 108501712
      Fri, Nov 18, 2011, 02:41 		lol, toral, that would explain why no one else claimed him. was a little shocked to find I needed to replace 3 idp's this week. that's 100 times better than having to find 2 rb's to cover for mendenhall and mcfadden though.
221jseth333
      Dude
      ID: 24100310
      Fri, Nov 18, 2011, 13:13 		Dropped players are subject to a one day waiver period but then become subject to first come - first served free agency.
222Da Bomb
      Donor
      ID: 487112814
      Fri, Nov 18, 2011, 18:44 		Yea I put in a waiver claim but it didn't work. Put in a similar claim in Rotogurupie Keeper league and it worked fine. Combine this with the botched trade attempts from before and my team is obviously cursed here.
223jseth333
      Dude
      ID: 24100310
      Tue, Nov 29, 2011, 10:25 		Almost playoff time - Rules Reminder - Take Note

8 teams
Top 6 W/L records are seeded 1-6
Top remaining total points are seeded 7-8
Teams with equivalent W/L records are seeded based on head-to-head first (regardless of the number of teams), then total points.
Bracket is fixed (no reseeding after each round)

All teams should be preparing their rosters for the postseason during this week given the limitations on add/drops.

Players at the primary skill positions (QB, RB, WR) may not be added for any reason during the playoffs. Free agents at these positions will be locked out after the final regular season game. You may drop a player at one of these positions, but once dropped, that player cannot be added later.

Players at the other positions (TE, PK, IDP) may be added or dropped according to normal regular season guidelines, subject to playoff claiming priorities, if applicable.

Following the final regular season game, claiming priorities will be reset based on playoff seed, with the top seed getting the top priority. Thereafter, throughout the playoffs, priorities will again adjust only when a claim is awarded.

If a playoff game ends in a tie score, the team with the better seed shall advance.

Teams which are not still active in the Championship playoffs may not make any transactions - adds or drops - even if they are still competing in the Consolation bracket.
224Frick
      ID: 387512315
      Tue, Nov 29, 2011, 10:59
Play-off Seed Franchise W-L-T PF
1  Frick's IR List 22-2-0 1834.06
2  Holt Institute 18-6-0 1715.88
3  TB 15-9-0 1687.64
4 Juking Safety 14-10-0 1552.5
5 Donkey Hunters 13-11-0 1606.72
6  supernovas 13-11-0 1564.56
7 Slackjawed Yokels 11-13 1596.92
8  twilson's Milchian Magicians 9-15 1588.72
  Nerfherders 12-12 1580.2
  VampireWeekend 13-11 1533.86
   Wheatfarmers 8-16 1513.1
  Panchovians 7-17 1447.7
  3 and Out 5-19 1418.12
  Da Bomb Squad 8-16 1409.78
225Frick
      ID: 387512315
      Tue, Nov 29, 2011, 11:10 		Sorry for the sloppy table. Basically, Holt and I are in.

TB is in with a win or a loss by Donkey Hunters, Supernovas, or Vampireweekend.

Juking Safety is in with 2 wins and 2 losses by Donkey Hunters, Supernovas, or Vampireweekend.

The H2H picture for the 5th and 6th slots are Donkey Hunter, Supernovas. Vampireweekend is on the outside looking in. If TB or Juking Safety end up tied, it was going to take more time then I wanted to put into it trying to figure out who was in.

The 7th and 8th spots go by points. So Slackjawed Yokels and Twilson get in, but both than TB, so TB is most likely in. Juking Safety and Vampireweekend need to get in on record or they are likely out.

Nerferherders has a chance of grabbing the 7th or 8th spot as they are with 16 points of Slackjawed Yokels.

Good luck to everyone! And even more luck trying to figure out your specific play-off scenario!
226holt
      ID: 108501712
      Tue, Nov 29, 2011, 13:52 		i just want mcfadden back already! no more starting mccluster!
227jseth333
      Dude
      ID: 24100310
      Tue, Nov 29, 2011, 14:03 		I had hopes that I was going to be able to sneak in after my disasterous start, but it is not looking good...
228TB
      ID: 451028614
      Thu, Dec 01, 2011, 20:34 		Frick, awesome season. 22-2 through 12 weeks is pretty great.
229Frick
      ID: 387512315
      Fri, Dec 02, 2011, 09:08 		Thank you. I've been insanely lucky. Injuries haven't been a huge concern, only a minor issue. I've also seen to gotten everyone's best shots, I think I'm 3rd or 4th on points against.

Looking at past RIFC leagues, I'm sure that I'll lose in the first round of the play-offs, but it has been a great season and this weeks games should be interesting and as I said above, there are a ton of scenarios out to be played out.
230jseth333
      Dude
      ID: 24100310
      Tue, Dec 06, 2011, 13:52 		So here is how I see it...

For the Championship bracket, the teams will be the top 6 in the standings plus the other two teams with the highest point totals.

This gives us top 6

Frick
Holt
TB
Donkey Hunters
Juking Safety
Supernovas

Plus...
Slackjawed
Twilson - who takes the last spot narrowly beating out Nerf...those honeymoons will kill ya every time...

The top 4 teams will be seeded 1-4.

The other four teams will be seeded based on total points giving us...

Slackjawed
Twilson
Juking
Super

I will perform a reset of the custom waiver order. The top 8 teams are ordered by seed, 1-8 (the top seed has the top waiver priority). They will not reset again.

Remember - No team can add any QB, RB, or WR.

Teams who are not still alive in the Championship bracket can't make any add/drop transactions.

For the rest of us...I will be setting up a Consolation bracket.

If anything does not look right, please let me know...
231Nerfherders
      ID: 161121811
      Thu, Dec 08, 2011, 12:21 		Last year I missed the 8th spot by three points, this year by 28 points. At least I was 13-13 this year, which should be enough to stay in AAA. Grats to the three at the top for moving on!

Just not enough games started by my top players this season. I only have two players out of my top 8 picks that played all 13 games this season. Best, Maclin, Moss, and Harrison missed significant time, and Grant was not worth even drafting, much less drafting 4th. The key to winning fantasy football is to have your top 5 picks healthy and producing. It just didnt happen for me.
232holt
      ID: 108501712
      Sun, Dec 11, 2011, 18:14 		Starting to look like I'm going to have the worst week of my season this week. Not good timing! Meanwhile, Juking Safety gets 72 from his IDP's. Thankfully I think second seed qualifies for RIFC, so I can't grumble too much.
233holt
      ID: 108501712
      Mon, Dec 12, 2011, 15:26 		update - 84 pts from idps's for juking safety. I'm guessing that's a record.
234Nerfherders
      ID: 161121811
      Mon, Dec 12, 2011, 16:37 		Frick seemed to have correctly called his own demise this week. ;)
235DWetzel
      ID: 53326279
      Mon, Dec 12, 2011, 16:41 		Re: 233 -- sure, it's the record... in AAA. Not the weekly high for all RIBC leagues though! :)
236Frick
      ID: 387512315
      Tue, Dec 13, 2011, 08:23 		I could have won my game, I hate Miles Austin for being out for 4 weeks, being questionable and then getting 12 points. Hard to believe that Big Ben had more points on 1.5 legs then Flacco did against the Colts. Actually, that isn't that surprising. And Polamalu having enough playing and putting up enough points to make it close after being questionable with a concussion. Not sure why I hesitated with a Steeler player with a concussion, never stopped Pittsburg before.

Gronkowski wasn't able to carry me to a win as he did so many times this year. Overall, great times and good luck next week to everyone.
237Toral
      ID: 010321615
      Tue, Dec 13, 2011, 08:38 		Hey, no love for the Wheatfarmers, 164.5 points, just a mite behind top score this week? Guyz coming around, finally putting it out, right in time for the playoffs.

Unfortunately, we aren't *in* the playoffs :)
238holt
      ID: 108501712
      Fri, Dec 16, 2011, 01:44 		lol Toral.

good season Frick.
239jseth333
      Dude
      ID: 24100310
      Sun, Dec 18, 2011, 18:44 		177 points and counting this week - where was this during the season?

Good luck to those fighting for the championship...
240Nerfherders
      ID: 161121811
      Mon, Dec 19, 2011, 16:06 		Same here. My team is healthy again now that I missed the playoffs.
241Pancho Villa
      ID: 597172916
      Sun, Dec 25, 2011, 12:09 		You can add Panchovians to the list of teams making a meaningless high point showing after a dismal regular season. Almost 160 points with Michael Turner yet to play.
242TB on Evo
      ID: 27782314
      Tue, Dec 27, 2011, 01:28 		Congrats supernova.
243wiggs
      ID: 497411815
      Tue, Dec 27, 2011, 15:01 		Thanks tb
244judy
      Dude
      ID: 7771722
      Sat, Dec 31, 2011, 11:12 		Here is the link for the MFL PLAYOFF CHALLENGE:

http://rotoguru1.com/cgi-bin/read.pl?board=foot&thread=5429#1325351358

You can enter one or two teams. Please join us! Just for fun!
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