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Subject: 2007 RIFC AA LEAGUE #4

Posted by: judy - [7771722] Fri, Aug 24, 2007, 23:02

WE ARE ALMOST FINISHED!

judy
ID: 7771722
Fri, Aug 24, 2007, 23:07

I will take care of DavePyros picks this weekend.

Also, I am out ~10 am to 12:30, ~2 to 10 pm (?), but will try and
check in during the afternoon.

For my Q's, I will leave instructions here or in an email. Please
check first as I have a few positions yet to fill, and thus do not want
to just roll through my Q picks.

Thanks.

judy
ID: 7771722
Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 06:10

Toral --

My Q is fine for round 21 -- it should last until my pick.

Will reset for round 22 - 24.

I know how to do the link, it just doesn't want to work!

judy
ID: 7771722
Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 09:13

You have been great putting your players into AOL.

Pops would you like me to do it for you since AOL is so crappy
for you?

Once all the players are in, I believe there is a "free" preseason
for drop/adds. For us, this could be as early as Monday, once I
know that all rosters are complete on AOL.

Please wait for an official announcement to proceed with drop/
adds after the draft finished.

From the rules:

During the preseason, league members are allowed to make
their own free agent acquisitions: Always

During the preseason, dropped player becomes available:
Immediately

Toral
ID: 575542418
Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 09:53

Pops: let me know if you want to trade this pick in round 20 for Thomas Howard. If so, I will tell you who to pick for me here. If not, pick the player you want.

Pops
ID: 5923858
Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 11:17

We're all set for the trade. Let me know who you want.

Toral
ID: 575542418
Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 12:02

Pops: I'll be back with my pick for you in 10 minutes or so.

Toral

Toral
ID: 575542418
Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 12:05

Pops: Pick Mathias Kiwanuka, DL, NYG

Toral

SwinganaMiss
ID: 1472415
Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 12:24

I've made my pick for Rd 20. I haven't seen Slowhand, so I don't know for sure if his queue is setup the way he wants it. So, I'll hold off making a pick for him.

I will be out for the afternoon, so I'm setting a small queue for round 21 only.

Thanks

Pops
ID: 5923858
Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 12:31

Great pick w/ the LB downs he'll get this year.

Toral
ID: 575542418
Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 12:36

Pops: I've dropped Thomas Howard. I don't know if you can pick him up immediately or if there is some waiver process or something.

judy
ID: 7771722
Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 13:16

Swinganamiss

He left a message/checked in at 0:45 this am, so I am pretty sure
his Q is valid.

I'll pick for him to keep us going.

judy
ID: 7771722
Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 13:25

I am out for a couple of hours.

I will pick for Davepyro's #21 as he left specific instructions -
hopefully by 4 - 5 pm.

Pops - see #3 above

Toral
ID: 575542418
Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 13:59

Queue now available for round #21.

Slowhand
SuperDude
ID: 056744223
Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 14:09

Yup, queue was good; thanks.

judy
ID: 38792514
Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 15:17

Jackhammer - don't panic. I am on a slow internet connection (for searching etc) and could not find Thornton on my lists so I made him a DL. It'll be correct on AOL.

I'll check back in a hour or so for DAvepyro's #21 pick.

BoNkA
Donor
ID: 019742310
Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 15:19

He's a linebacker.

judy
ID: 38792514
Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 15:20

oh well

judy
ID: 38792514
Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 15:24

psychos --your Q is empty!

weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 17:07

The manager of the team who drafted the player can always change the position in Kafenatid.
Just click an your manager name then click on the player you want to update the position.

judy
ID: 38792514
Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 17:20

Davepyro wanted a Wr so I am going back one pick to change it if I can...

judy
ID: 38792514
Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 17:25

It worked!

Now whoever is DPing for Dave pyro - he wants a LB in round 22, DB in round 23, and DL in round 24. I erased Madieu somebody and Davepyro's Q only has one person in it now, so pick that person and I'll figure out the position and we will go from there!

Anybody know Madieu's last name -- I erased it without really looking at it! oops.

BoNkA
Donor
ID: 019742310
Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 17:26

Madieu Williams

judy
ID: 38792514
Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 17:27

I forgot - no IDP's with bye = 8 for Davepyro.
Thanks.

judy
ID: 38792514
Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 17:27

what does he play?

Toral
ID: 575542418
Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 19:10

DB Cincinnati

judy
ID: 7771722
Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 21:17

POPS

I added all your players except Mathias Kiwanuka to your AOL
roster for you. He is not on the board as I think you traded him to
Toral??? So whatever player you got in exchange, you will need to
add. Also, please check that I added the correct players!

judy
ID: 7771722
Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 21:47

I am going to assume that all the available Q's I see are

GOOD TO GO for rounds #22, 23 and 24

unless you indicate otherwise in this thread -- for me and your
DP's.

If you are my DP, please check here for Rounds #23 and 24.

Thanks.

wolfer
ID: 247581719
Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 21:52

For the record, I will be around for at least the next hour and a half, just in case donkeyhunter makes is pick shortly.

I would also be remiss if I did say that in terms of the flood, the only problem that we had (if you discount the extra 10+ miles to work everday this week) was water in the basement. So we were pretty much unscathed, compared to others in my county.

judy
ID: 7771722
Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 21:59

Wolfer -- wow, those pictures were amazing. Is the forecast for it
to begin to dry out this week?

wolfer
ID: 247581719
Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 22:05

For the most part, yes.

Toral
ID: 575542418
Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 23:11

My queue is good for rounds 22 and 23, but not 24.

Toral

SwinganaMiss
ID: 1472415
Sat, Aug 25, 2007, 23:56

I'd like to move up earlier into round 22. If anyone's willing, we can swap 22nd and 23rd round picks.

BoNkA
Donor
ID: 019742310
Sun, Aug 26, 2007, 02:31

My queue is available for round 22.

Toral
ID: 575542418
Sun, Aug 26, 2007, 08:44

Correction: my queue is good only for round 22.

judy
ID: 7771722
Sun, Aug 26, 2007, 08:52

nice pick Bonka -- Cole is a good player -- I had him last year and
he got me some good points. I took Gaither this year instead of
him when Trot was released. According to the AOL site, I am the
only manager who has Gaither! I think he'll be great for the Eagles.

judy
ID: 7771722
Sun, Aug 26, 2007, 09:24

My Q is only good for #22. Will reset after that pick.

Toral
ID: 575542418
Sun, Aug 26, 2007, 09:44

I have a mental bet with myself who your next pick is, judy.

judy
ID: 7771722
Sun, Aug 26, 2007, 12:41

game on!

judy
ID: 7771722
Sun, Aug 26, 2007, 13:01

psychos - you around?

judy
ID: 7771722
Sun, Aug 26, 2007, 13:28

A CHANGE:

My Q is good for both #22 and #23.

I'll reset for #24.

E'ville Destiny
Leader
ID: 29017810
Sun, Aug 26, 2007, 13:28

Toral...He's not an Eagle is he????? I've noticed a little fondness there. Took Gaither from me as a matter of fact.

judy
ID: 7771722
Sun, Aug 26, 2007, 13:42

Hey guys, I bleed green -- just like Trotter -- who I think will
be back as an ambassador like Hugh Douglas was a few years
ago. Gaither is going to be a good one --8+ points per game I
am guessing, esp now that he is the starter. The fun with the
Eagles is that they can be leading by 21 points in Q 4 and still
find a way to lose -- it makes it so exciting! You don't rest until
that FAT LADY sings!

Also bleed Phillies red and am bleeding a lot now -- they are
playing crappy - the bullpen is killing us -- Meyers gave up 2 PH
HR in the 9th and we lost by 1. We win by scoring runs and we
are not doing that either! Howard is floundering at the plate.
Hopefully Utley will be back tomorrow, but the Iguchi fill in did a
great job -- good D and ~.300 for us at the plate -- good little
player -- we gotta teach him to play 3rd -- our choices there
are no field but hit (dobbs, helms) or field but no hit (Nunez).

Just to round out the field, I bleed not at all for the 76ers or the
Flyers...

BoNkA
Donor
ID: 019742310
Sun, Aug 26, 2007, 13:58

I live in PA but am a Miami fan :D

Good luck with Philly's bye week though!

judy
ID: 7771722
Sun, Aug 26, 2007, 14:22

Oh, I am OK for that -- I planned my choices to cover it. I am just
praying that McNabb and Westbrook stay healthy...

The Jets (Pennington and L Washington) play the Jints in week 5, so
I should be Ok there. I'll pick up a DEF somewhere for that game
and hope for the best. Then I am fine for the rest of the season
with byes.

Slowhand
SuperDude
ID: 056744223
Sun, Aug 26, 2007, 14:28

small queue but I'll check back in 4-5 hrs if it runs out.

Toral
ID: 575542418
Sun, Aug 26, 2007, 16:55

My queue should be good for the rest of the draft now.

Toral

judy
ID: 7771722
Sun, Aug 26, 2007, 19:24

Toral -- did you guess right?

judy
ID: 7771722
Sun, Aug 26, 2007, 19:29

pops -- you there? Give us a timeline if you are!

davepyro
ID: 22742121
Sun, Aug 26, 2007, 21:21

I am back now and connected finally and will make my picks from now on as soon as I update my que.
Great Veterans Appreciation Fireworks Show: 580 mortars shells, 400+ cakes plus a 10 minute display show to 6" shells. We collected boxes and boxes of stuff and $620 for the Marines in Iraq. Did not even catch the wheat field on fire. Cost me about 10 grand, all up in smoke.
Thanks Judy, picks looked good. Sorry you had to do all the fixes. Sorry Weykool that I did not let you know.

Toral
ID: 575542418
Sun, Aug 26, 2007, 21:25

judy -- my guess was dumb. I thought you were planning on Akers, and didn't even check and notice that you already had a PK!

Toral

judy
ID: 7771722
Sun, Aug 26, 2007, 22:12

Toral -- no problem -- I decided to go with Mare as he'll kick over
half his games indoors and the Saints score a lot of TD's. I figure
he's good for 4-7 points per game.

Saw on the scroll that Hester hurt his shoulder in game #3. Lovie
says he'll be OK for the opener -- I sure hope so, counting on lots
of points from that guy...

Davepyro -- I had some nice LB and Dl lined up for you in 23 and
24 -- shoot me an email if you want to know who they were!

judy
ID: 7771722
Sun, Aug 26, 2007, 22:13

I guess Pops and Psycho are out for the day...
37 more min for Pops...

judy
ID: 7771722
Sun, Aug 26, 2007, 23:18

Ok we are done for Sunday. Hopefully, Psychos and Pops will come
home and fix their picks so we can keep on going...

I'll be checking in to DP around 8 am EDT. We should be finished
by Monday night.

davepyro
ID: 22742121
Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 01:56

I have updated my que and made it available. Take the next player available half an hour after I am on clock. I will adjust my que as I have time. Judy, please email the list to me. I watched no games and heard no news this weekend so did any of my picks get injured??

judy
ID: 7771722
Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 08:11

I am out today 8:30 to about 2, but it looks like Psycho might take
a while again.

My Q is good for #24 if we get there.

davepyro
ID: 22742121
Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 09:19

So the draft stops while we wait on Psychos missed pick?? Can we put in a place holder like Michael Vick so we can continue??

Slowhand-at work
ID: 16532417
Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 11:55

I understand your frustration Dave but I think he gets his full 6 hrs. It is inconsiderate and does not bode well for their level of particpation in the league to continually time out.
However overall I think this has been a great draft and I'm looking forward to a great season.
A special thanks to our commisioner judy who has done an outstanding job and I really appreciate her efforts.

BoNkA
Donor
ID: 019742310
Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 13:19

Yes, it's frustrating to have people time out multiple times, but the draft has gone pretty well despite that. It's almost over and there's no point trying to speed things up with 1.5 rounds left. Hopefully he comes back before he times out a third time :/

judy
ID: 7771722
Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 14:26

Sorry guys -- I was out til now. Got an email from Mike that I could
have passed over both Pops and Psychos for their second time out.
I did not know that I could "legally" do that. I probably would have
put Vick in if he timed out for a third time, just on principle. Again,
sorry.

I think we did well and hope we will be finished tonight, get all
players in AOL and start the free agency process.

judy
ID: 7771722
Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 14:32

Pops and Psychos,

Please put a Q in place for Round #24 and make it available to the
people above and below you. Because of excessive delays from you
over the weekend, I will put a placeholder into your slots if you do
not leave a Q or make a pick within 30 minutes.

Thanks for your understanding.

Judy

wolfer
ID: 24148211
Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 17:25

I am leaving work shortly and will try to make my last two picks at roughly about kickoff tonight.

judy
ID: 7771722
Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 17:42

thanks for the timeline Wolfer.

judy
ID: 7771722
Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 17:55

If you have not already done so, please add your picks to your AOL
roster. Once the draft is completed, I will ask for confirmation that
your AOL roster is complete. At that time, we will begin the pre
season drop/adds, using the AOL website.

As I read the rules, preseason drop/adds are first come first served.
Right?

Toral
ID: 575542418
Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 19:46

I don't think so, judy. See post 57 in this thread. I can't get the link to work -- it's called "RIFC:pre-draft discussion".

It says "Following the draft, all undrafted players will be subject to a "waiver-like" priority claiming process, with the priorities equal to the reverse of the first round draft picks.

So, the team selecting 14th in round 1 will have the top priority in post draft claiming."

I don't know how long this waiver period lasts or what happens after it.

Toral

davepyro
ID: 22742121
Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 20:07

#56 Sorry guys (especially Psychos) I did not see any clock running when the draft came back to his previously missed pick. So I thought the clock and draft was totally stopped until he made his pick(s). It seemed that reading last year's threads for RIFC that frequently they put in a placeholder so draft could continue. I am glad we are still going.
Kudos to Judy for an outstanding job as a freshman commish. We are way beyond schedule, and I am just a little impatient to get the guys I want, and they ALWAYS seem to disappear right before I pick.
#64 Do we as a league pick the times for this post-draft draft?? Can we wait until after the final preseason game?

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 20:16

Toral, I believe that applies to the claims process, once the season starts. That is, Wednesday at noon after the first week of games and every Wednesday thereafter. Claims priority must be manually reset by Judy, worst to first, for the first 6 weeks only. After the 6th week she no longer resets.

After the draft, wavers are run for 48 hours (players frozen), then free agents may be picked up first come, first served until 5 minutes before the scheduled kickoff of that player's game.

The waver and claims systems are rules unique to the RIFC that can be a little complicated to fully comprehend.

mjd
Sustainer
ID: 501381415
Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 20:30

Check that. In post 70 of that same RIFC thread it says: "Immediately following the draft, undrafted players will be subject to a priority claiming process, with priorities equal to the reverse of the first round draft order."

So there is a priority claims process after the draft.

Sorry for the confusion. I told you it was complicated.

judy
ID: 7771722
Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 20:30

OK - regarding the waiver wire etc stuff. (See #64 above.) I need to
read up on that on the AOL site to figure it all out, so it will be a
few days until I sort it all out. There was a suggestion to wait until
a few more games are played anyway.

Maybe Guru will email me with some helpful hints...

I will keep you posted -- as always.

judy
ID: 7771722
Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 21:13

Thanks to Mike, I found some stuff from last year --

hopefully GURU will kick in with the OK.

During the preseason, there is no such thing (in the Fanball/AOL
software) as waivers. That's because waivers are available based
on ranking-based priorities, and there are no preseason
rankings. Therefore, during the preseason, anyone dropped is
just held in statis for 48 hours, after which he is released and
available first-come, first served.

HOWEVER -- In the past, all undrafted players were frozen for at
least 48 hours, after which time there would be a one-time,
preseason waiver process, in reverse order of the first round of
the draft. (This needs to be done manually, via email to the
commish). After those are processed, all unclaimed players are
released to free agency, first come, first served.

At the very least we will have 48 hours after the draft ends
before anything important happens. Good thing, too -- I need a
break!

judy
ID: 7771722
Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 22:25

weykool/rob -- you there?

We've got Q's all lined up behind you!

weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 22:43

Pick completed.

Thanks for the great job Judy.

judy
ID: 7771722
Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 23:05

swing and slow,

you guys ready? I am timing Pops out at ~10:30 EDT so you will be
next and then we are all finished!!

TADA!

Slowhand
SuperDude
ID: 056744223
Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 23:16

just got home ...ready to go

judy
ID: 7771722
Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 23:38

oops I meant 11:30 EDT...

judy
ID: 7771722
Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 23:42

Pops

When I did the search for your placeholder, Scott Player appeared in
the box, so I picked him. I have no idea what he plays, and didn't
feel like looking him up. You will need to do that. If you don't like
him, choose someone else before noon tomorrow/Tuesday. Post
that pick here so everyone can see who it is.

Also, please let me know if I need to put your players in to AOL
again. Give me a list of who needs to be placed there.

judy
ID: 7771722
Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 23:46

slow -

if swing times out wanna leave a Q for me for tomorrow am?

Slowhand
SuperDude
ID: 056744223
Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 23:47

yup.... just did

judy
ID: 7771722
Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 23:48

great! thanks!

judy
ID: 7771722
Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 07:12

And we are finished our draft! Thanks to you for your great
cooperation. All players are frozen for 48 hours. I will send
email details about the waiver process for requesting drops/
adds before we go to an open drop/add period.

NOw one more request. (I will also send an email.)

Please do two things:

1) Add all yourplayers to your AOL roster.
2) Check your season schedule and make sure that you play
each team twice. I am pretty sure that the schedule is accurate,
but would love to have confirmation of that before the season
begins.

Once you have done this, let me know HERE in this manner:

Team name:

AOL: yes

Schedule check: yes

Thanks.

EvilleDestiny
Leader
ID: 29017810
Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 08:51

Team name: EvilleDestiny (footwedge)

AOL:yes

Schedule check: yes

Thanks for all the work Judy and everyone for a smooth draft. I will be away from computer access for 3-4 days starting tomorrow evening so I'm really glad we got this draft in before I had to leave.

dror
ID: 5283329
Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 09:01

Team name: The red Scorpions (dror)

AOL: yes

Schedule check: yes

Slowhand
SuperDude
ID: 056744223
Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 09:01

Slowhand

AOL: Yes

Schedule check: Yes

Toral
ID: 575542418
Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 09:17

I won't be able to check this till tonight, judy.

Thanks for your hard work; the draft went pretty well flawlessly I think.

Toral

judy
ID: 7771722
Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 11:45

We are now in the waiver/claims part of the preseason. It is the
first chance you will have to �fix� any �oops� players on your
team. The order is a reversed draft order, so Wolfer goes first.

You do not have to do this; you can wait until the free agent
drop/add period. (I do know of someone who has a player who
got cut today, so I expect at least one waiver/claim transaction
request.)

Use the AOL player list -- we are finished with Kafenatid. This is
why is it so important for you to place your players on your AOL
roster NOW!

Here is the procedure:
1) E-mail me with the player(s) you want to drop, in the
order you want them processed. Have a priority list of each
player you want to add. You may do as many transactions as
you wish (although last year we did not have any...) You must
drop a player before you can add one...
2) The deadline for me to receive these e-mails is
Thursday night at 9 pm EDT.
3) I will process the requests Thursday night and post the
results on the thread, hopefully by midnight EDT.
4) After your drop/add is approved, you need to
immediately do a drop/add on your AOL roster (or you risk
losing your guy during the free D/A period -- and THAT will be
your problem for not being prompt!)
5) Dropped players become free agents 48 hours after
they are dropped.

Please wait for the official announcement of the free agent drop/
add period. (I expect it will be midnight Friday.) I will post it on
the thread and send you an e-mail. At this point it is probably a
good idea for you to check the box in AOL that notifies you of all
transactions so you can see who has done what with the players.

IF YOU HAVE NOT ALREADY DONE SO, PLEASE BRING YOUR AOL
ROSTERS UP TO DATE.

Thanks.

Judy

judy
ID: 7771722
Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 15:00

no problem Toral -- thanks for the heads up.

BoNkA
Donor
ID: 019742310
Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 18:16

Team name: Bonka

AOL: yes

Schedule check: yes

wolfer
ID: 247581719
Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 19:39

Team name: The fighting joe carsons (Hey its either characters from the Simpsons or 60's TV)

AOL: YES

Schedule check : yes

SwinganaMiss
ID: 1472415
Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 19:48

Can't add my players:
Claims are currently closed. Pre-Season claims feature will be available soon.

AOL: NO

Toral
ID: 575542418
Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 20:19

AOL: yes

Schedule check: yes

I really hate the schedule check. We'll play anyone you want to put us up against. Once, twice, 3 times, 4 times, not at all, we don't care. And if it was wrong, we won;t complain.

But since you asked me to do it, I did it :)

Toral

davepyro
ID: 22742121
Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 20:39

#89 It is not under claims. I started there and then found the add/drop player section.

Team: Thunder Bunnies

AOL: YES

Schedule: YES

SwinganaMiss
ID: 1472415
Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 22:20

Alright, I'm YES and YES now.

weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 22:39

Team name: weykool

AOL: yes

Schedule check: yes

Donkey Hunter
ID: 12671919
Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 02:22

AOl yes
schedule yes

judy
ID: 7771722
Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 09:22

Pops -

Where are you? Please check in so we can continue on AOL.

Thanks.

judy
ID: 7771722
Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 21:48

Here is a new thread for the optional draft recap.

http://rotoguru1.com/cgi-bin/read.pl?
board=footst&thread=846&lastpost=1188524875

Someone can add a link here.

Toral
ID: 575542418
Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 21:54

Link to Draft Recap

BoNkA
Donor
ID: 019742310
Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 22:12

We can freely pick up and drop players now that the claims period is over?

100

Jack Hammers
Donor
ID: 236482918
Fri, Aug 31, 2007, 13:26

re: 99 According to post 85 that will begin sometime tonight. I'd like to see some kind of update on this. Leaving town for a few days after tomorrow

101

judy
ID: 7771722
Fri, Aug 31, 2007, 22:44

Free agency drop/add began at 9:00 Pm EDT August 31, 2007

I sent everyone an email at 11:49 pm on August 30.

So, yes, drop/add free agency is now open, until the start of the
season on Thursday, Sept 6th.

102

judy
ID: 7771722
Mon, Sep 03, 2007, 21:46

here is the thread location for the regular season:

http://rotoguru1.com/cgi-bin/read.pl?
board=footst&thread=851&lastpost=1188870228

Would someone please add the link? I cannot get my computer to
do it! Thanks.

103

Slowhand
SuperDude
ID: 056744223
Tue, Sep 04, 2007, 00:02

Here is the link to the new thread.

104

davepyro
ID: 22742121
Thu, Sep 06, 2007, 09:23

Does someone know an Internet site where the starting lineups are listed?? I am very concerned about my IDP's, and would like to see defensive starters before the games.

105

judy
ID: 7771722
Thu, Sep 06, 2007, 15:59

try this one:

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/

ot this one:

http://www.nfl.com/

or check each individual team page for depth charts.

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