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Subject: RIFC AAA#1 Draft Discussion #2
Posted by: Trip
- Leader [13961611] Sun, Aug 26, 2007, 12:37
Tonight I will move the time limit to 4 hours per pick. We need a couple of strong days from everyone to pick the pace up here. Currently we're on pace to finish the day the season starts.
I have placed all players selected through round 10 on their teams for those managers who have not been doing so themselves. Please pick up your players in AOL after you have made your selection in the future. This will also allow you to search available players at the AOL site.
We have been doing a good job with the rationales. Please keep up the good work. If there are no objections, I am proposing we stop rationales after round 18. Any notes you would like to pass on about the final rounds can be done in your draft summary. |
1 | TB Sherpa
ID: 031811922 Sun, Aug 26, 2007, 13:01
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That all sounds great. I do wish we could have sped the draft time up during the weekend versus during the work week when access sometimes an issue for me, but I can work some queues.
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2 | deepsnapper Leader
ID: 017103420 Sun, Aug 26, 2007, 13:43
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Thanks Trip, I went to do pick them up early this AM and they were all there. I later went to check my Yahoo acct. & I'd turned on the option in AOL to notify me of adds/drops and I had like 200 messages. I first thought I had a spam bomb or something. Yikes! lol
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3 | I_AM_CANADIAN Donor
ID: 1361448 Sun, Aug 26, 2007, 13:46
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Just gave Hubble a call... he'll be picking in ~30 minutes.
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4 | Hubble
ID: 9313716 Sun, Aug 26, 2007, 14:04
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Sorry for the hold up all.. i left home at 9am this morning... never would i have thought it would be my turn by the time i would come back. Rookie mistake from me. Though i'm kinda glad i got to see the last 7 picks it definitly changed my mind on my choice.
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8 | TB Sherpa
ID: 031811922 Sun, Aug 26, 2007, 19:00
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Hey Pete, I just saw you were putting your rationales in, so I will wait to add mine and go ahead and make my pick first.
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9 | Peter N.
ID: 426242722 Sun, Aug 26, 2007, 19:10
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TB, cool thanks for waiting.
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10 | TB Sherpa
ID: 031811922 Sun, Aug 26, 2007, 19:15
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Actually, I was making placeholders and after posting saw you were updating. Had to do some quick deleting.
=)
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14 | TB Sherpa
ID: 031811922 Sun, Aug 26, 2007, 19:37
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The round 1-6 rationales won't be able to be moved until probably tomorrow. Something is screwy with the html in that thread and it's getting fixed.
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17 | loki SuperDude
ID: 4211201420 Sun, Aug 26, 2007, 20:08
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Trip-I forgot that AOL was different than Yahoo, and we could enter our players. Thanks for entering those that you did.
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18 | Trip Leader
ID: 13961611 Sun, Aug 26, 2007, 22:14
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Calling it a night early tonight. My queue has been disabled, I want to sleep on my options tonight and see what has happened in between picks.
I'll change the draft clock first thing in the AM.
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21 | Trip Leader
ID: 13961611 Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 10:46
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1. What time does Da Bomb time out?
2. Who can I send my Kafenatid sign in info to skip his second pick when he does?
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22 | deepsnapper Leader
ID: 017103420 Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 13:28
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posting placeholders up to my rationale for Chris Hope in 3 min. ;)
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23 | Trip Leader
ID: 13961611 Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 13:33
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One of you Dallas homers please select DeMarcus Ware, LB, DAL for me.
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24 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 13:34
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Trip, just give someone commish privs and they can help you through the draft if need be.
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25 | Trip Leader
ID: 13961611 Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 13:36
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I checked but I don't think Kafenatid allows for multiple commissioners.
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26 | deepsnapper Leader
ID: 017103420 Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 14:14
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I noticed Da Bomb hasn't posted a single Rationale. I don't mean to call him out, but I don't want to have to post 15 rationales between now and Friday for 1 team. I've got better things to do and so does TB (work). There's no reason not to put something down on each player as you draft them. Most web browsers have tabs - open one to Kaffinated & one to Rotoguru!
The delays just add extra work on the Mods moving the rationales over. If we weren't in the draft, you wouldn't be able to do the "placeholder", you'd have to post each time you drafted a player. Care to guess what round of rationales you'd be in?
I've already fat-fingered HTML text in the first rationale thread and needed TB & Dave fix it yesterday, I don't want to make another error trying to get them all done by Friday because as of Friday, I'm done, other than drafting & doing my own rationales. I'm on the road to my parents 57th Anniv. & it's Labor day weekend too.
Sorry for the rant, but rationales are part of the RIFC format and have been all 4 years we've played. It's understood going in they're required and no-one's exempt. Other than Doug, we're all a little guilty of being a little lazy in our player analysis, but it's AAA and not the big leagues so that kind of stuff happens at times. (Props Doug).
That's no excuse for not doing them or keeping fairly current. It's safe to say we're all in multiple drafts and other than a couple of us old guys, everyone has to make a living or go to school or both.
Again sorry for the long post, I should be happier, Fredo resigned this AM! ;)
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27 | Trip Leader
ID: 13961611 Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 14:31
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Deepsnapper, I'm the mystery mod who has been moving the rationales over as well.
Taxman and Da Bomb have been the laggards on the draft and in the rationales. FYI guys, as the league commissioner guru will consider my recommendations when putting together the RIFC next year.
Da Bomb, if you time out again you will be moved to a 3 hour clock.
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28 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 14:33
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DS,
It is frustrating when a person or two don't pull their own weight in which they've agreed to do. IMM there needs to be a happy medium and it starts with the clock. We don't want to penalize otherwise attentive managers who have a pick or two they jsut cna't get to or their Q gets picked clean. Yet when the same manager(s) consistently use up time it slows us all down.
Since we can't use a cumulative clock here and we are slipping farther behind schedule, I propose we look to adjust the clock downward again to 3 Hrs in a day or two if we can't make progress. Then we cut it again to two hours. I'd really hate to see it ever go less than that unless we're at Tues or so of next week.
There is no way we can possibly get done if we are using up our clock the way we are. Since we are asked to have a Q when possible, this seems like it would help. Bottom line, when most players are faced with the possibility of timing out, it's amazing how easy it is to get a Q. And when Qs are made and people are selecting in timely manners it assists managers to be able to leave shorter Qs as well.
DS has really slaved over these threads and this draft as well as a few others and a BIG THANK YOU goes out. There is so much work that goes on that the average manager has no clue about.
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29 | deepsnapper Leader
ID: 017103420 Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 15:17
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Trip - I suspected you had mod powers, and you can understand what I'm talking about.
Ref - thanks, but I just appreciate the draft and try not to hold things up. Heck, if we didn't want to be here, we wouldn't do this. I remember drafting with strangers. ugh.
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30 | loki
ID: 59620209 Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 15:40
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I would prefer to keep the clock at 4 hours. If most managers keep up with the draft, this allows for the unforeseen holdup that can happen to any of us.
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31 | Doug
ID: 113132214 Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 16:28
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I'm heading out now and will be on the road for much of the next couple weeks. I expect to have my laptop with me, so should be able to track things that way. I should also be able to check in online once or twice a day to set up queues.
However, it will be really helpful if I can have one or two people who will be my phone contacts for the remainder of the draft. I may be unable to get online for hours at a time, etc. so if I have a queue expire, I'll need someone to give me a ring and make my pick for me.
Please drop me an email if you think you're available for phone contact. Thanks!
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37 | Hubble
ID: 19792721 Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 22:30
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Thanks guys for moving this for me. I have little time and little access lately... i should post the rest tomorrow morning while i get awake. I forgot my cheet sheet at my office today :(... so i cant prepare a Q. I'll pick before 8:00am if it comes to me tonight.
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38 | Trip Leader
ID: 13961611 Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 22:48
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[rant] Guys, I'm not sure everyone here realizes how behind we are.
RIFC started 3 days before us and are 9 rounds ahead of us.
AA is 1 round from being completed.
We are keeping pace with AAA#2 but they aren't projecting to finish in time either.
If you are going to compete in this league, you need to be prepared, especially in the later rounds. If you are prepared, making your queues is a lot easier. It can also help you a ton by projecting players and knowing which players might disappear when.
In other words, by making queues, not only are you doing the rest of the league a favor, you are doing yourself a huge favor as well. [/rant]
Hubble, why not make it easier for yourself and store your queues in Kafenatid?
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40 | Athletics Guy
ID: 31658719 Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 23:12
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Thanks Trip for moving all the rationales.
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41 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 23:33
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Who are Doug's phone contacts?
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42 | Trip Leader
ID: 13961611 Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 23:41
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I sent him a note with my cell. I'm not good as a phone contact with a 1.5 year old at home and cubeville during the day.
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43 | TB Sherpa
ID: 031811922 Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 23:42
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I emailed him as well and said I would help. He has me as a DP, but nobody is in the queue.
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44 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Mon, Aug 27, 2007, 23:52
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RE:30
loki, while four hours seems like the logical number, we have collected a lot of data about time since we started a cumulative clock a few years ago in G20 Baseball, G20 Basketball and G24 Football. Even though there is an occassional manager or two who fall behind or don't do what is expected of them, we have amzing progress for having so many managers and so many trades to try and track.
What we've found is that is extremely rare for someone who eclipses the three hour mark to not also time out. In fact, it is so rare that we've taken all of our per pick times down to three hours from the get-go. There are a handfull of times where a manager will go over two hours though. But normally picks are made less than two hours. In our current draft, we've had only one manager take over two hours and not time out. Only 4 managers have taken three hours.
It is similar in our other leagues. This allows us to start very late and have the most current information on starters, etc. for our drafts.
In conclusion, if 24 different managers with picks and trades all over the place can do it, most any league who cares should be able to do it. Cutting the clock may indeed cause an extra time out or two, but w/o a running or cumulative clock to make a manager more responsible for the time elapsing overall, it's the only way to help speed up the laggers.
The four hours haven't put a dent in things the first day--and in fact we may have lost more time. I am not upset yet, but I will be if we don't get the draft done in time for us to be able to hit the WW/FA wire before the season starts to fix a broken pick. As long as we get back on schedule, I don't think most care where that clock sits.
OK...working on my Q now...;)
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45 | Hubble
ID: 19792721 Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 08:56
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Re: 38, i use Kafenatid Q system a lot... at least 5 of my picks have been pick by a DP using my Q.
Yesterday i just didnt have time to "update" my Q.
well... it didnt really matter did it? i'm not even up.
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46 | deepsnapper Leader
ID: 017103420 Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 10:50
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Ditto sending Doug my cell. I didn't get a response yesterday though.
My only problem is losing Internet service sometime last night. I found out at 5:00am CT. I got up at little early to check out the lunar eclipse and when I came in about 5:05 - no service.
Not the best help from Verizon @ 5am. reboot, unplug, etc, etc. after an hour of that they called back after 7am with a real tech. and mysteriously after a couple hours more - green lights!
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47 | StLCards Dude
ID: 31010716 Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 10:59
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In #44 ref indicated he was updating his queue, but all I see is Queue unavailable/empty so he must have not turned it on.
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49 | Letter_J
ID: 353551013 Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 11:12
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Trip, just a heads up...you're on the clock.
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50 | Trip Leader
ID: 13961611 Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 11:18
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Please select Andra Davis, LB, CLE for me.
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51 | Hubble
ID: 25332812 Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 11:19
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done... good pick
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52 | Hubble
ID: 25332812 Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 11:20
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woooo. 4 picks in 17 minutes!!! we can take at least 2 days off now.
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53 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 11:24
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Actually I did leave a Q but Delhomme was taken right before me and apparently in my hurried effort to get out and turn off the computer I didn't click on the button properly to enter Schaub (was still sitting waiting to be added to Q). I had told Peter that I had a meeting and didn't know when I'd be able to get in so just wish you could have skipped me earlier. Don't like people waiting that long on me. That's what Qs are for.
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56 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 11:51
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Just an FYI while double checking on how many rounds we have (24), here are the rules as stated in post 70.
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58 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 12:31
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mjd isn't in this league.
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60 | StLCards Dude
ID: 31010716 Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 12:49
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I am unable to pick up my players as they are all on claim status
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61 | Letter_J
ID: 353551013 Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 13:06
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Re post 60,
I'm in the same boat, StLCards
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64 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 13:45
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Re: 60, 61
I picked-up my last guy fine just now.
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65 | Trip Leader
ID: 13961611 Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 13:49
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Re: 60,61,64
I didn't do anything.
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66 | Doug
ID: 441251914 Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 14:14
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Back online (for now at least)... I sent some emails to a couple of you late last night (midnight PST) but I don't think they actually transmitted until a few minutes ago.
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67 | StLCards Dude
ID: 31010716 Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 14:24
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RE: 65 I think I figured it out now. If you search for a player through the players link, then they are shown on claimer status.
If you go to "Transactions/Drop-Add" then you can add them.
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68 | loki
ID: 59620209 Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 14:27
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Re: 60...
Unable to pick up my last draft pick.
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69 | Trip Leader
ID: 13961611 Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 14:47
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Try going to Transactions, then Drop/Add Players
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70 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 14:54
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Doug feel free to add me to your Q.
Your G24 Q was picked at pretty good but you still have some players available. Looks like you only have 6 draft picks there too.
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71 | deepsnapper Leader
ID: 017103420 Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 15:10
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Doug, got your email.
Give me a couple to peruse the pile.
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72 | Letter_J
ID: 353551013 Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 15:18
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Trip, you're on the clock again...
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73 | Trip Leader
ID: 13961611 Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 15:46
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Please select Wes Welker, WR, NE for me.
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74 | Trip Leader
ID: 13961611 Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 15:48
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Scratch that.
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75 | Trip Leader
ID: 13961611 Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 15:49
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Please select Jacoby Jones, WR, HOU for me.
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77 | deepsnapper Leader
ID: 017103420 Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 16:35
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Links to Rationale Threads. Please check them to ensure the accuracy of the rationales (or lack thereof).
RIFC AAA#1 2007: Draft Rationales #3 (Round 13-18)
RIFC AAA #1 2007: Draft Rationales #2 (Round 7-12)
RIFC AAA#1 Draft Rationales (Rounds 1-6)
As they say on the Closer: Thank you very much!
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80 | StLCards Dude
ID: 31010716 Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 18:55
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Glad you're worried about the health of my running back ;)
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81 | StLCards Dude
ID: 31010716 Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 19:17
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Pete had a queue for the 1st pick but it is now empty.
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83 | Athletics Guy
ID: 31658719 Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 19:28
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There I fixed it! LOL now I'm disappointed. I really thought I had Lewis!
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84 | TB Sherpa
ID: 031811922 Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 19:39
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I have to step out, but I set up a queue with a couple players and have Doug and Pete as DP. I will make some more people DP too so I don't hold this up.
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85 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 20:44
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well crap. My q was picked clean again. Gimme a few to figure out which way to go.
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86 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 21:50
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I'm a little furstrated for again spending so much time on my q and it's picked clean yet again.
Some of the guys who might have been:
Freddy Keiaho Charles Tillman Troy Williamson Matt Jones Brian Dawkins E.J. Henderson
Was prepared to take Keilaho last time but the picks before me too so long that it game me time to switch him and buckhalter around. I seriously doubt Buckhalter would have made it back to me either.
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87 | TB Sherpa
ID: 031811922 Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 22:20
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Hey Ref, I even mentioned you in my rationale for that pick. Can't post it until I make my next picks, but I really didn't expect him to make it back down after I passed on him in the 14th.
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89 | StLCards Dude
ID: 31010716 Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 22:32
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I had that Keiaho kid at the top of my q but rearranged it and took Henderson instead. Only reason was I already had the Indy guy in G24.
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90 | TB Sherpa
ID: 031811922 Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 23:09
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Thanks for making my picks from my queue and for the placeholders.
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91 | loki SuperDude
ID: 4211201420 Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 23:18
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I cannot open Kafenatid.net. Anyone else having a problem?
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92 | TB Sherpa
ID: 031811922 Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 23:21
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Yes and I just got a notice that I was up in another draft.
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93 | loki SuperDude
ID: 4211201420 Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 23:24
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Hopefully it will be back on by the AM.
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94 | deepsnapper Leader
ID: 017103420 Tue, Aug 28, 2007, 23:40
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Kaffinated is up. Current pick is letter_j 16.12
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96 | Peter N.
ID: 426242722 Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 03:18
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Long day here fellas. School has started and its going to be rough. I'll be sure to keep my queue filled. Thanks to those that have covered for me.
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97 | Trip Leader
ID: 13961611 Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 07:53
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It looks like the clock never stopped last night. I have stopped the draft until the skipped picks get caught up.
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98 | Letter_J
ID: 353551013 Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 07:56
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I arrived at the office this morning and I had been skipped and the clock was at Da Bomb...oh well, I immediately selected D.J. Williams, LB, DEN and right after I did so, a "DRAFT STOPPED" message appeared. Kafenatid is acknowledging that I have selected D.J. Williams.
Hopefully, we can keep this moving...we made good progress yesterday.
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99 | Letter_J
ID: 353551013 Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 07:57
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Thanks Trip,
I have selected (see post 98)...That now puts Taxman on the clock.
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100 | TB Sherpa
ID: 031811922 Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 08:56
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I don't think anyone can access the draft with it stopped to make picks. I know that I cannot.
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101 | loki SuperDude
ID: 4211201420 Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 09:02
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I do not have access either. I will be away from a computer for part of the day, but I think that I left my queue active. If so, please use it for my next pick only. Thanks!!
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102 | Trip Leader
ID: 13961611 Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 10:05
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I do have e-mails out to KKB, taxman, and Da Bomb. I'll try to let you guys know more as soon as I do.
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103 | deepsnapper Leader
ID: 017103420 Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 11:27
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All relevant rationales have been moved to their appropriate threads and deleted from this one.
This downtime is a good time to catchup on your rationales. ;)
5 managers owe rationales in Rationale Thread Rounds 1-6
Numerous Managers owe rationales in Rationale Thread Rounds 7-12.
Links to the threads are in post #77
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106 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 12:20
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The draft did pause last night I can assure you. j was on the clock and am not sure how much time he had left. Again I spent a good deal of time preparing a long Q and a little frustrated it didn't get back to me since I had to be gone all morning. Maybe I'll hear some news and chagne my pick and it will work out for the better!
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107 | Letter_J
ID: 353551013 Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 12:36
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I do not know what's going on with the draft, but 36 minutes ago, I received this message:
letter_j, You are receiving this e-mail because you are a Designated Picker for Taxman and it is their turn to pick in the RIFC AAA #1 League Draft!
To make the pick for Taxman, go to http://www.kafenatid.net/on_the_clock/index.php
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108 | Da Bomb Donor
ID: 487112814 Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 12:40
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I started the draft back up using Trip's login however I am in a hurry now and can't figure out how to delete the last couple picks. Taxman should pick JUST his 16.15 then I will pick two, then Taxman's 17.02. I will be back in an hour.
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109 | Trip Leader
ID: 13961611 Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 12:49
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Sorry guys, I have no response from anyone. I am going to restart the draft here in a minute. Who can do the honors for me? You will need to restart the draft, and skip DaBomb's and Taxman's picks. I haven't heard from them either. (I'll send you my kafenatid login info)
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110 | Letter_J
ID: 353551013 Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 12:49
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Re post 106,
The draft pauses nightly from 11:00 pm - 7:00 am ET. jtserb drafted 16.11 Robert Meachem WR NOR at 11:01 pm ET (during the draft pause). I drafted 16.12 D.J. Williams LB DEN at 07:52 am ET.
I am unaware of how I could have timed out if the clock did pause as I spent only 52 minutes on the clock. Yet, when I arrived this morning, I had timed out.
It's all good...I selected before the draft was stopped. I just do not understand how I could have timed out if the clock did indeed stop from 11 to 7.
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111 | Trip Leader
ID: 13961611 Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 12:53
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The draft didn't pause. I am waiting to hear KKB's response.
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112 | Letter_J
ID: 353551013 Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 12:59
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Trip,
Just so you are aware, the clock is now running at 17 (of 24) 2 226 Taxman with 3:36 remaining, as per Da Bomb's post of 108.
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113 | deepsnapper Leader
ID: 017103420 Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 13:00
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Left message for Taxman about the draft.
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114 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 13:12
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letter j, you didn't time out. You were showing as up and the draft was paused when I left. Your post indicates your clock didn't even start until 7am. All I was saying is that the draft did pause (as oppose to the theory that teh clock never stopped) and you were up. I didn't look to see how much time you had remaining as it just showed paused.
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115 | Letter_J
ID: 353551013 Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 13:16
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Re post 114,
The clock should not have started until 7 am...yet, when I arrived this morning, Kafenatid indicated that I had timed out, as I had been skipped (and so had Taxman) and Da Bomb was on the clock.
How is that possible, if the clock stopped properly?
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116 | deepsnapper Leader
ID: 017103420 Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 13:29
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Letter_J - I think that's why Trip contacted KKB and is waiting for his response (#111)
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117 | Letter_J
ID: 353551013 Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 14:02
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I understood that ds...I was just trying to respond to this:
letter j, you didn't time out in post 114.
I know I timed out 'cause I had been skipped and so had Taxman.
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118 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 14:07
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I see what you are saying letter j. I thought the confusion was in post 97 in that the thought was the draft did not pause and kept going. Then when you said you had timed out, I didn't know how much time had elapsed before it started up at 7 am. Obviously, there was a hiccup and it skipped you when it restarted at 7 am. Then the other guy after you didn't pick by 10 am I'm guessing so it skipped again? I don't know.
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119 | Trip Leader
ID: 13961611 Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 14:07
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Who can I send my kafenatid ID to that will skip taxman and da bomb's picks.
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120 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 14:26
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send it to me trip
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121 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 14:27
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please send instructions too if it comes to me.
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122 | Letter_J
ID: 353551013 Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 14:35
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All right, I'm back on the clock, so I assume that I should pick as soon as possible as both Da Bomb and Taxman have been skipped?
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123 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 14:38
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uhmmmm...
I skipped taxman and da bomb twice, but now it has skipped down. I didn't do that. letterj was up when I wsa done skipping but now it shows Trip up. What is going on????
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124 | Letter_J
ID: 353551013 Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 14:38
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I've picked and the computer has now skipped ds and has Trip on the clock with an empty queue.
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125 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 14:41
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OK DS was skipped and should'nt have been. He is out mowing his lawn and should be back at any time. So Trip, don't select until ds is able to. Looks like it skipped an extra spot. I hit skip 4 times so am wondering if da bomb's two picks are both skipped with one skip and it was my fault afterall. Anyhow, we're moving again at least.
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126 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 14:43
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Or if the missed picks were already skips and I should have only hit skip twice...
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127 | Hubble
ID: 25332812 Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 14:45
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U should have hit skip 2 more times... now it would be my turn to pick :)
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128 | loki SuperDude
ID: 4211201420 Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 14:56
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I just got home and cannot log into Kafenatid.net.
I get the following error message: ERROR: Could not connect to database.
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129 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 15:01
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Same here now. Looks like it has another hiccup.
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130 | Taxman SuperDude
ID: 029463114 Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 15:02
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I have been trying to get in and draft for past while...my selections for when I was skipped are
16.13 Craig Davis WR SD
17.02 Will Smith Movie Star..(DE) Saints
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131 | Trip Leader
ID: 13961611 Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 15:04
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ref, can you input those picks for me
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132 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 15:04
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It was working fine until just a few mins ago and it had taxman on the clock with his last pick and dabomb slot able to be picked up after timing out.
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133 | Letter_J
ID: 353551013 Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 15:06
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Given the chaos, perhaps I should post that I selected Owen Daniels, TE, HOU with pick 17.03.
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134 | loki SuperDude
ID: 4211201420 Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 15:09
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It is not working now.
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135 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 15:10
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The site is down. I have a meeting--hopefully it's a short one and the site will be back up when I get back to input those picks.
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136 | Taxman SuperDude
ID: 029463114 Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 15:12
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BTW...I am 100% delinquent (as in none) in posting rationals. I have been on the road since wed of last week, now that I am back home i am covered up at work. Hopefully, I can get the first dozen picks or so up by the weekend. My apologies to the league in general and to the commish specifically.
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137 | Trip Leader
ID: 13961611 Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 15:59
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It appears to be back up.
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138 | deepsnapper Leader
ID: 017103420 Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 16:16
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back in from mowing the yard. give me a couple mins. to stop the dizziness & ketchup.
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139 | Letter_J
ID: 353551013 Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 16:21
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ds,
you might want to call the Taxman and advise that he can enter his picks.
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140 | Letter_J
ID: 353551013 Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 16:33
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Trip on the clock
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141 | deepsnapper Leader
ID: 017103420 Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 16:35
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cool beans
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142 | Trip Leader
ID: 13961611 Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 16:43
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Please select Giants, DEF, NYG for me.
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143 | Trip Leader
ID: 13961611 Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 16:44
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by the way, Culpepper is a Raider now
= p
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144 | deepsnapper Leader
ID: 017103420 Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 16:49
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can't change the team...... just the position. lol
we'll have to discuss the matter with Yahoo or KKB.
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145 | Letter_J
ID: 353551013 Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 16:50
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Unfortunately Trip your status is Queue Unavailable/Empty. It does not seem to allow for a DP...unless you have designated someone else other than me.
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146 | Trip Leader
ID: 13961611 Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 16:55
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Letter_J, I sent you my log on as well. While you're at it, please make Taxman's picks.
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147 | Letter_J
ID: 353551013 Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 17:02
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Trip,
I have entered your pick, as well as both of Taxman's. Hubble on the clock.
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148 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 17:28
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I am back. So much for a quick meeting.
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149 | Letter_J
ID: 353551013 Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 17:38
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Hub picked so ref's on the clock
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150 | Letter_J
ID: 353551013 Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 18:07
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Just a heads up,
Ref you have a filled queue but it's not available.
I'm leaving the office soon and as I've stated before, I do not have net access at home (by choice). That said, I have left a message with Hubble to ask my brother (I_A_C) to give me a call in the event that this draft wraps back around to me. I have also left the same message at my brother's e-mail address.
As we have lost most of the day, I'll try not to stagnate the draft any more.
Good night all.
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151 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 18:12
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yeah I turned it off while i was making sure the Q i made last night was still good. Upon further review, I just left it. Now gotta figure out position of next pick so I left it off for now...
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152 | loki SuperDude
ID: 4211201420 Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 19:45
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TB-Good pick of Osi. He was #1 on my queue, but I waited one round too long. I think that he will be at LB, not playing on the DL this season.
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153 | TB Sherpa
ID: 031811922 Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 20:17
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He's been near the top of my short list for a while, but there is always another position I wanted to get. The Woodson pick, on the other hand, was an out of nowhere pick. Never had him in my queue. I just noticed that he scored 154.20 points in this format last year, liked his bye week to round out my IDP, and decided why not? Heck of a rationale there, eh?
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154 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 20:32
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I don't have a list--just a general idea of what I'm trying to do and I consult some cheet sheets to help me rememebr players, etc. It's amazing how many times players were picked and I get mad at myself because I forgot about them! But on the other hand, my Q had been getting picked pretty clean until this time when NO ONE on my Q was taken. Starting to think I might be reaching! ;)
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155 | loki SuperDude
ID: 4211201420 Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 20:42
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I am a NYG fan which is why I was interested in Umenora. Woodson was also on my queue, but obviously no longer.
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156 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 21:18
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I was so happy to see Winfield was still available. Or so I thought. I go to pick him up and he was gone. Further search indicates TB got him several rounds ago. I like him a lot.
Apparently a couple of my earlier rationales didn't get copied over to the rationale thread so I will redo those and my last one asap.
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159 | Trip Leader
ID: 13961611 Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 23:04
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We appear to be having issues with the draft pause again. I will not stop the draft tonight, I will just extend the time limit. Message to KKB has already been sent. I'll update as soon as I know anything.
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160 | Trip Leader
ID: 13961611 Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 23:28
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I have gone through rosters and I think we are up to date in AOL as well.
Please visit your team and check that everything is correct.
Please try to keep your roster up to date with the draft as well.
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161 | Trip Leader
ID: 13961611 Wed, Aug 29, 2007, 23:46
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looks like the draft paused has kicked in.
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162 | Taxman SuperDude
ID: 029463114 Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 00:12
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Good luck to us tonight..we are exactly where we were last night before the implosion.
My queue is filled and turned on.
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163 | Letter_J
ID: 353551013 Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 08:04
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I've picked this morning (LaRon Landry, DB, WAS). It came around to me last night. However, it must have been too late for my brother to give me a call. I apologize.
Taxman had a queue (Chad Greenway, LB, MIN) and I selected Greenway for him.
Da Bomb on the clock.
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172 | Hubble
ID: 19792721 Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 09:26
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Once again sorry for not having post these when i was drafting, as for most of time i used Q/or couldnt spend much time online. Big thanks to the rationale helpers.
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176 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 10:42
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Per post 27, I thiught that Da Bomb timed out after 3 hours now? Maybe Trip meant he woudl go in and skip him after 3 hours had elapsed.
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177 | Trip Leader
ID: 13961611 Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 10:45
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That was only if he timed out again. He will be on a 3 hour clock from now on if he times out here.
If he doesn't make his selection in the next 15 minutes, please go in and skip his next pick.
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178 | Trip Leader
ID: 13961611 Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 11:12
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Please skip Da Bomb. He is now on a 3 hour clock.
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179 | Letter_J
ID: 353551013 Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 11:22
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We've moved quickly again...ds on the clock
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180 | for Athletics Guy Leader
ID: 017103420 Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 11:48
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just checking before picking as I my count was off.... no fuse on da bomb this AM?
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181 | Trip Leader
ID: 13961611 Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 11:51
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please select Michael Pittman, RB, TB for me.
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182 | for Athletics Guy Leader
ID: 017103420 Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 11:54
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Pittman confirmed.
loki up.
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183 | deepsnapper Leader
ID: 017103420 Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 11:54
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oops!
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184 | Letter_J
ID: 353551013 Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 12:06
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Hub on the clock
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185 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 12:22
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We'd be done already if it weren't for the top part of the draft. I propose a 2 hour clock for Da Bomb moving forward. In fact, with Labor Day Weekend fast approaching, the last thing we need to do is hang out by the computer the whole time. If we can set Qs--even if you're here and know who you want, that would help. With the Qs and DPs, things should be moving a lot faster.
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186 | Da Bomb Donor
ID: 487112814 Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 12:42
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Really sorry about holding up the draft. I did have connection issues this morning so that was the reason for the hold up today, but from now on you can just give me a 1 hour clock as I will be leaving long queues from here on out.
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187 | deepsnapper Leader
ID: 017103420 Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 12:45
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I'm going back to posting my rationale before my pick. ;)
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189 | StLCards Dude
ID: 31010716 Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 14:14
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I made Pete's first pick from his queue, but it is obvious he had not intended the queue to be used for his subsequent pick as he had two team D's queued up and as of now has 2 D's on his squad already, so I'm not going to make this pick for him.
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190 | Peter N.
ID: 426242722 Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 14:16
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Yeah, thanks for waiting StL. I didn't expect both defenses to make it back to me. I made my pick and also picked for TB. Doug is now up.
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192 | loki
ID: 59620209 Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 14:35
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Re: 185- I agree with going to a 2 hour clock with the goal of finishing before Saturday.
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193 | Letter_J
ID: 353551013 Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 15:05
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19.03 Oakland Raiders, DEF, OAK
A second defense, ugh!...But necessary.
Last year, Oakland finished the season as the 21st ranked defense, allowing 134 rush yds/g (25th), 150.8 pass yds/g (1st) and 20.8 PPG (18th). They also finished top 10 in INTs. This was despite a very tough schedule.
This year, their schedule is soft, loaded with games against numerous teams that finished in the bottom half of the NFL offensively last year. I'm crossing my fingers that Lane Kiffin gets the Raiders moving in the right direction offensively, thereby keeping the Raiders defense fresh. If that happens, this defense could surprise.
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194 | deepsnapper Leader
ID: 017103420 Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 15:16
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I'm out for a while (rest of the afternoon) getting ready for our trip. I set up a 10 player queue for Rds 20 & 21. Please don't take a player in Rd 21 from the same position as Rd 20. Thx.
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195 | Letter_J
ID: 353551013 Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 16:29
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Just in case,
Doug on the clock.
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196 | Taxman SuperDude
ID: 029463114 Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 17:32
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I am gone for the next four hours. I have a queue posted. Please only take 1 player from each of the positions...another words players picked at my 20.13 and 21.02 must be at different positions
thank you
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197 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 18:04
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This waiting all day to pick is beyond annoying--esp. when I have a Q. Guess I can start working on next round's Q now...
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198 | TB Sherpa
ID: 031811922 Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 18:17
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You made your last pick like 5 hours and 10 picks ago. We made a quick turn on the corner. I'm betting a much faster turn than we'll see at the top of the board. 17 picks in the last 6-7 hours. Not a shabby run, but we've yet to hit a real rhythm in this draft. I'm guessing A's guy never expected the draft to get back to him before 8PM. I'm just hoping it doesn't spend 13 hours at the top of the order again.
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199 | deepsnapper Leader
ID: 017103420 Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 20:14
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m'back and will make my pick
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200 | deepsnapper Leader
ID: 017103420 Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 21:01
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thanks for not waiting, off on another tangent. ;)
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201 | TB Sherpa
ID: 031811922 Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 21:39
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Sorry about that. I just happened to come upstairs to see if Sludge had picked in another draft. He did, so I made my pick. I saw you were up in the other draft and left me as a DP, so made the pick and went back to finish watching my movie. I should have checked the board first, especially knowing there is no rush with the draft more than likely stopped at letter j for the evening.
Just a heads up to anyone that has me as a DP during the day. I do not normally have access to the forum from work so it's probably better off to not have me as a DP if you don't want me to pick the name showing in the box.
That wasn't the case with your pick DS and I'm sorry about that. If you want to work a trade for Morgan I'd be willing to take him off your hands. I'll give you my next two picks (21 and 22) for him and your 23rd rounder.
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202 | Taxman SuperDude
ID: 029463114 Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 21:52
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post 150
I'm leaving the office soon and as I've stated before, I do not have net access at home (by choice). That said, I have left a message with Hubble to ask my brother (I_A_C) to give me a call in the event that this draft wraps back around to me. I have also left the same message at my brother's e-mail address.
Does anybody know how to reach Hubble or Letter_J's brother. If some/any-one will send me a phone number I will gladly make the call.
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203 | I_AM_CANADIAN Donor
ID: 1361448 Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 22:22
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I made the pick for Letter_J... IF you guys can make the turn within the next half hour, then I'll get his next pick in as well... otherwise... it'll be the morning again.
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204 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Fri, Aug 31, 2007, 00:23
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da bomb said he had his q loaded--but not to me. Maybe he has Trip listed as a DP. Let me check...
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205 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Fri, Aug 31, 2007, 00:26
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Nope.
First his Q is unavailable and it hasn't been filled either.
That is contrary to his post in 186 where he said just give him an hour as his Q would be filled from here on out.
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206 | Kyle Donor
ID: 052753312 Fri, Aug 31, 2007, 00:47
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Trip, I need some help. I am trying to set up the schedule for the RIFC AAA #2 and I was wondering if you had a site or a spreadsheet to help set it up. If you do that'd be great thanks!
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207 | Trip Leader
ID: 13961611 Fri, Aug 31, 2007, 08:40
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Kyle, it's been a while since I did the schedule. It has carried over since I first set the league up. I tried to dig up any information I had for someone last year and didn't have any luck. I recommend sending Guru an e-mail.
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208 | Trip Leader
ID: 13961611 Fri, Aug 31, 2007, 08:41
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I will be traveling all day today.
Ref is in charge.
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209 | Hubble
ID: 19792721 Fri, Aug 31, 2007, 09:24
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I'm travelling until noon... i'll pick then if it comes to me.
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210 | Letter_J
ID: 353551013 Fri, Aug 31, 2007, 12:06
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ref on the clock.
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211 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Fri, Aug 31, 2007, 12:23
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For a couple mins anyhow.
5 picks in about 10-15 mins.
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213 | Letter_J
ID: 353551013 Fri, Aug 31, 2007, 15:11
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20.12 Dallas Clark, TE, IND
This former Colts first rounder has produced consistent numbers (borderline TE1) for a TE when healthy. He is a very good pass catching TE, is not afraid to go across the middle and Manning seems to target him in the red zone. Although I have some reservations that rookie WR Anthony Gonzalez will cut into some of Clark's numbers in the slot, in the 20th round, Clark seemed like a good throw at the dartboard.
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214 | Letter_J
ID: 353551013 Fri, Aug 31, 2007, 15:21
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21.03 Bobby Wade, WR, MIN
My fifth WR drafted and he so happens to be the #1 WR for the Vikings...ho hum. Unbelievably, the Vikes signed Wade as a free agent this offseason at a 5-year $15 million contract. I'm hoping to use Wade as a spot starter. Hopefully, Wade earns some of that money on the weeks that I start him.
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216 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Fri, Aug 31, 2007, 17:08
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Pete, you know you can only start ONE QB and one DST, right? ;)
Trip shouldn't have left me in charge today. Without the couple delays, we'd be done already. ;) Nice work guys!
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217 | Hubble
ID: 19792721 Fri, Aug 31, 2007, 17:32
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Just got back.. will pick in 5 minutes
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218 | loki SuperDude
ID: 4211201420 Fri, Aug 31, 2007, 18:23
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20.08 Neil Rackers, K, AZ
Assuming that Rackers can adjust to his new holder, he should once again be one of the top PKs. I am also hopeful that his off season training will enable him to regain leg strength for a better >50 yard percentage this season.
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219 | Da Bomb Donor
ID: 487112814 Fri, Aug 31, 2007, 19:06
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I'm here and will pick shortly.
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220 | TB Sherpa
ID: 031811922 Fri, Aug 31, 2007, 22:24
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I plugged 5 kickers into my queue (in case Pete decides to draft 3 of those as well...lol) and set a bunch of people up as my DP. I am taking a draft break the rest of the night.
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221 | StLCards Dude
ID: 31010716 Fri, Aug 31, 2007, 22:51
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I'm taking a quick last look and then will make my last pick.
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222 | StLCards Dude
ID: 31010716 Fri, Aug 31, 2007, 23:10
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My draft is done and I picked from queue's so it is up to Doug.
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223 | StLCards Dude
ID: 31010716 Sat, Sep 01, 2007, 01:00
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Finished adding the rest of my players at AOL and got my lineup set for week 1. Let's play some football!
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224 | Trip
ID: 11250227 Sat, Sep 01, 2007, 09:26
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Depending on when we finish this thing, I will add remaining players and lock out teams from being able to pick up free agents. We will then be in the post-draft claiming period. At noon (ET) on Tuesday, all submitted claims for undrafted players will be processed, using even numbered draft round priorities. If you wish to claim an undrafted player (along with dropping one of your drafted players, of course), you must submit your claim at the AOL site. You may submit as many claims as you wish. If you do, prioritize them appropriately.
After the claims have been awarded and I have confirmed that everything seems to have run properly, I will enable free agent pickups.
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225 | Taxman SuperDude
ID: 029463114 Sat, Sep 01, 2007, 12:27
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I am trying to pick a player whose name is in neither kafenatid or AOL
Kenton Keith, RB, IND
Untill Keith is added to AOL, I am going to use a place holder...Michael Vick. I understand that if I drop Vick before Keith is added, I will lose my claim on Keith.
I will wait 30 minutews before I pick Kieth in case someone has a problem with my plan.
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226 | Letter_J
ID: 353551013 Sat, Sep 01, 2007, 12:36
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Taxman,
I requested Kenton Keith through kafenatid. Yesterday, Fred processed Selvin Young in a matter of a couple of hours of the request to add the player...I would assume he does the same with Keith.
I'm in the same boat as you concerning AOL...we'll have to let Trip take care of that.
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227 | Taxman SuperDude
ID: 029463114 Sat, Sep 01, 2007, 12:41
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Letter J
Did you alreadt pick Keith in this league??
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228 | Letter_J
ID: 353551013 Sat, Sep 01, 2007, 12:42
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Taxman,
Da Bomb has a queue and its filled...so maybe you want to wait a while to see if Keith gets added to kafenatid? Just a suggestion, it's only the two of you left (and jtserb, who has timed out) who are left to complete the draft.
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229 | Letter_J
ID: 353551013 Sat, Sep 01, 2007, 12:44
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Taxman,
No...I had Selvin Young on my radar, made the request yesterday to Fred and within a couple of hours, he had added Young.
Keith's all yours...I think that you have indicated that he is who you want to select so I believe that you're covered...it's just a matter of doing so on kafenatid.
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230 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Sat, Sep 01, 2007, 12:55
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i looked for young and another player who weren't there so i picked someone else. didnt think to ask them to be added mid-draft. thought i'd have to hit the WW for them.
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231 | TB Sherpa
ID: 031811922 Sat, Sep 01, 2007, 13:36
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Donny, I like your Vick plan. We do something similar every year.
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232 | Taxman SuperDude
ID: 029463114 Sat, Sep 01, 2007, 13:51
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Thanks Lette_J...TB.
Done
TB...how goes it? Where is home these days?? We need to catch up some time.
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233 | TB Sherpa
ID: 031811922 Sat, Sep 01, 2007, 14:06
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KC, and I just called you like two days ago...lol...but yeah we mostly talked about this draft.
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234 | Trip
ID: 11250227 Sat, Sep 01, 2007, 14:29
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for jtserb's last pick, he gets a randomly selected player from me so that he can't select a player who was recently named to a starting job or who was upgraded due to another player's injury. Please add your players in AOL ASAP. I will review rosters late tonight and lock things down shortly thereafter.
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235 | Trip Leader
ID: 13961611 Sat, Sep 01, 2007, 22:58
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Everybody, please check your picks.
The number of players whom I had to manually enter is ridiculous.
I've been happy to commission AAA up until this year, but this league is trying my patience.
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236 | Doug
ID: 441251914 Sat, Sep 01, 2007, 23:01
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I am still unable to access my account... I can log on to AIM, but not the AOL website I emailed their tech support a day or two ago but no reply yet.
Trip can you see if I'm I officially signed up for the league? If not, perhaps I can just create a new account and see if that will work.
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237 | Trip Leader
ID: 13961611 Sat, Sep 01, 2007, 23:19
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Doug, sorry but this is not the time to be asking me these questions. You've had plenty of time to figure out the AOL site and this is the first I've heard of your access issues.
If you need help, you need to be asking AOL, not me. I'm too busy this week to offer any help.
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238 | TB Sherpa
ID: 031811922 Sun, Sep 02, 2007, 00:37
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This isn't the first time he's brought it up. I understand the sress of commishing a league, but take a breath. This is supposed to be fun.
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239 | TB Sherpa
ID: 031811922 Sun, Sep 02, 2007, 00:42
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Doug, The team name is Dougs of War and the email addy listed is doug@reprazent.com
Maybe you can go to the main AOL page and try to request that the password be mailed to you. Hmm, I logged off and then went to log back on and got this link for forgotten password: TRY THIS LINK
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240 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Sun, Sep 02, 2007, 01:12
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Trip you going to start the recap thread?
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241 | Trip Leader
ID: 13961611 Sun, Sep 02, 2007, 01:15
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TB...I've sent him help via e-mail before. I have sent e-mails trying to help him out within the past 2 hours.
I haven't had any requests for help before this thread started.
I am not his excuse for not being able to set a lineup and I want to make that very clear.
My main point is that he's had more than two weeks to sort out any accessibility issues and he would have plenty of support during that time.
I have offered support, and have offered support recently.
This is not a problem of commissioner support, the issue is him not asking for help earlier.
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242 | Letter_J
ID: 353551013 Sun, Sep 02, 2007, 11:01
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Trip,
I was able to select Selvin Young at kafenatid during the draft, but he is not yet available at AOL. I do not have a full roster at AOL. Not that it's a problem, I am able to have a team rostered without Young; in any event, he was not selected with week one in mind.
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243 | Letter_J
ID: 353551013 Sun, Sep 02, 2007, 11:03
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ahhhh...
I see what has been done...Morten Andersen...LOL
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244 | Doug
ID: 441251914 Sun, Sep 02, 2007, 17:01
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Re: 237... I did first mention the login issue back on August 20th in our first draft thread. I tried periodically to log on and later received an email saying it was some ongoing problem and to try in a few days, but it never cleared up. Honestly, with 3 slow drafts going on simultaneously, I felt keeping up-to-date on Kafenatid was much more important than logging on to the website... that could be done the week after the draft (i.e., now).
So when it still hadn't resolved a couple days ago I did follow up AGAIN with AOL and finally got another reply from AOL at 12:30 EST today saying "we don't know when it will be fixed, don't email us again" (nice customer service). In the meantime I had simply come her to ask whether my team was already registered in the league because I assumed if so, I wouldn't be able to re-register with a different ID. Basically I was just trying to think of a creative possible solution since AOL was struggling to get their act together and the clock was starting to tick a little louder.
As it turns out, AOL must have finally fixed whatever the issue was about the same time they sent me that email, because when I got into the office around 3:00 EST today, it was finally working.
Re: 241... this had nothing to do with commissioner support, and I don't believe I ever said or implied that it di. It was an AOL support issue. And when yesterday it still wasn't resolved by them I decided to try a creative solution (creating a new ID, in case the problem was somehow specfic to my login ID)... and so I simply asked a question of whether my team was registered already to make sure I wouldn't be wasting my time by doing that. I don't see how/why asking if I was already registered was such a big deal. I wasn't accusing anyone of anything... just... asking a simple question.
Re: 239... thanks for the info. FWIW, AOL's "forgot password" system wasn't working either, I had tried playing with that the previous week. But the point is, I hadn't forgotten my password... I just couldn't log in. I checked the password several times logging off/on AIM so I knew it was correct. In the end it appears it was just some weird AOL website login glitch that took them two weeks to fix. *sigh* Three cheers for AOL... that stands for "America Offline", right? :p
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245 | TB Sherpa
ID: 031811922 Sun, Sep 02, 2007, 21:17
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Good to see you are squared away.
Now let's all grab a few cold beers come game day and enjoy the football season.
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246 | Taxman SuperDude
ID: 029463114 Sun, Sep 02, 2007, 23:18
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Trip..
Kenton Keith is now available on the AOL game site. Will you please place him on my roster and remove Michael Vick.
Thank you for all your efforts to make our draft a success and get us underway.
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247 | Da Bomb Donor
ID: 487112814 Mon, Sep 03, 2007, 02:16
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I'm trying to set up a claim but can't find where to do so (maybe it hasn't been set up?) I went to transactions but the only options are to set a lineups, drop/add free agents, and trade.
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248 | Letter_J
ID: 353551013 Mon, Sep 03, 2007, 09:48
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Trip,
Re post 246...
RB Selvin Young(r), den Free Agent is also now available at AOL.
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249 | TB Sherpa
ID: 031811922 Mon, Sep 03, 2007, 12:56
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It doesn't look like the claim system is set up, but I could be wrong. You guys should try to add those players to your roster manually and see what happens.
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250 | Letter_J
ID: 353551013 Mon, Sep 03, 2007, 13:09
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Yup,
I was able to drop the placeholder [Morten Andersen, PK, fa] and pick up Selvin Young, RB, DEN.
Thanks TB.
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251 | deepsnapper @ folks
ID: 13818311 Mon, Sep 03, 2007, 13:22
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I'll be home later today and clean up my stuff and do the recap tomorrow. My 2x roster is set.
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252 | TB Sherpa
ID: 031811922 Mon, Sep 03, 2007, 20:32
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All the rationales for rounds 1-18 have been moved over and the posts above deleted. There is no place to put rounds 19 and later so I left them here. I am going to make a list of which rationales are still due.
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253 | TB Sherpa
ID: 031811922 Mon, Sep 03, 2007, 20:49
| Revised & completed rationales moved
Outstanding Rationales as of 09/06:
Da Bomb and Taxman Every single draft pick, rounds 1-18.
JTSerb Appreciate the first four rounds, but you are missing rounds 5 through 18.
Trip 5.06 Jerious Norwood, RB, ATL Rounds 14-18
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255 | loki SuperDude
ID: 4211201420 Mon, Sep 03, 2007, 23:36
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When will preseason waiver claims be open?
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257 | Doug
ID: 441251914 Tue, Sep 04, 2007, 18:55
| edited to remove picks prior to rounds 19
19.11 Rodney Harrison DB NWE - Seems really good value here, although now he's going to miss the first 4 games. He should come back strong though, since it's not an injury-induced absence.
20.04 Tony Hunt RB PHI - Goal line back could provide occasional value even as the #3 RB... and the two backs ahead of him both have injury histories. I don't think he'll be much value unless one of those injuries strike again (which I don't wish on anyone... except maybe Mike Vick)... but the upside seemed worth a pick here.
21.11 Atlanta Falcons DEF ATL - D seems to vary a lot from one year to next and I just have the feeling they have an outside shot of surprising this year. Denver faces Indy in week 4, whereas Atlanta faces Houston, so they might be a good matchup play that week.
22.04 Nate Burleson WR SEA - The WR situation in SEA is cloudy, but I think at some point this season he could provide value, not to mention the return yardage. Likely to ride the pine unless one of my top 3 gets injured, but I like the potential depth he provides along with Northcutt. One or the other should be good enough to start most weeks.
23.11 Demorrio Williams LB ATL - I like my flex IDPs, but figured it was worth taking one more guy with upside... I'd need a spare IDP for bye weeks anyway, but wanted to put "dibs" on this guy. Didn't feel I had any other lineup holes that needed filling.
24.04 Josh Scobee K JAX - Figured I oughtta draft a kicker. *shrug*
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258 | Peter N.
ID: 426242722 Tue, Sep 04, 2007, 20:36
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19.13 New York Jets DEF
Mangini is a defensive-minded coach. I have the NYJs D ranked in top 15. Not bad for a backup D.
20.02 Patrick Clayton, WR, DAL
Slight homer pick, but also insurance on Glenn who is still not 100%. Clayton was a sleeper for me anyway going into this year. If he starts, he could be huge. Glenn better get healthy quick.
21.13 Tampa Bay DEF
Not an intended pick here. I forgot to clear my queue. Moving along.
22.02 Josh Brown, K, SEA
I still needed a kicker and Brown is a top 10 kicker. Seattle's offense is still solid as well. Should be plenty of opps.
23.12 Dunta Robinson, CB, HOU
At this point, I only have Roy Williams at DB. Figured I'd go there with my last two picks. Robinson is a play-maker in a defense that should be improved for next year.
24.02 Deangelo Hall, CB, ATL
Another playmaker added to my secondary. Hall was a stud at Va Tech and I think his reputation of being a shutdown corner hurts him some fantasy wise. However, I didn't like anything else out there and wanted to go with another guy that can make plays when given the opp. I expect his INT numbers to increase.
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259 | Taxman SuperDude
ID: 029463114 Tue, Sep 04, 2007, 22:14
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Repeat of # 246
Trip.. before waiver claims start
Kenton Keith my final draft pick (see #225 above) is now available on the AOL game site. Will you please place him on my roster and remove Michael Vick (the placeholder).
Thank you for all your efforts to make our draft a success and get us underway.
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260 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Tue, Sep 04, 2007, 22:31
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Did you read post 249?
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261 | TB Sherpa
ID: 031811922 Tue, Sep 04, 2007, 23:56
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Donny, see if you can pick him up real quick.
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262 | deepsnapper Leader
ID: 017103420 Wed, Sep 05, 2007, 11:41
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It was my understanding that we stopped Rationales after RD 18 based upon the subject in this thread posted by Trip. Unless that changed, why is everyone still posting rationales? I thought the last rounds were going to be done as a summary?
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263 | Hubble
ID: 25332812 Wed, Sep 05, 2007, 11:57
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I prefer read draft recap than last round rationale... I hope everyone will post one!
If people have time for rational of round 18 and up, it great... but i don't think they were mandatory.
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265 | deepsnapper
ID: 3676299 Thu, Sep 06, 2007, 09:52
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FYI - I moved the pertinent Rationales in this thread and updated post #253 for those with outstanding ones & deleted the completed ones.
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266 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Thu, Sep 06, 2007, 11:47
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Since opening night is tonight, there are a few managers who have a lot of work to do this afternoon to live up to their commmitments to play in the RIFC Series league.
Many of the outstanding rationales are complete but a couple have still done nada. Many recpas have not been done. Let's get caught up.
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267 | Da Bomb Donor
ID: 487112814 Sun, Sep 09, 2007, 15:49
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Trip, does the claim system still need to be set up?
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268 | Letter_J
ID: 353551013 Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 09:03
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Trip,
This is what is found at fanball.
View Team Ranking For Claim Requests Order Team 1 PeterN 2 Da Bomb Squad 3 The Dougs of War 4 Sunday Trippers Why are no other teams listed?
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269 | Trip Leader
ID: 13961611 Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 09:14
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I contacted AOL last Monday about setting this up. I haven't heard back, despite a follow-up. I was hoping that things might straighten out once the first week's games were final. That doesn't appear to be the case.
I am going to lock managers from making claims and ask that they be submitted by me via e-mail.
I am considering making the switch back to fanball commissioner as I haven't had a response to 3 tickets so far this year.
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270 | loki
ID: 59620209 Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 09:49
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What is the time frame for sending email claims to you?
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271 | Trip Leader
ID: 13961611 Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 09:59
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Wednesday at noon.
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272 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 12:51
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aol claims are working now.
time for a new thread?
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273 | Trip Leader
ID: 13961611 Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 13:42
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AOL claims are not working until I can set the proper waiver/claim ranking order.
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274 | Trip Leader
ID: 13961611 Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 15:52
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It is set up properly now.
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