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Subject: Gurupie 24 2007 Supplemental Draft Recap
Posted by: Ref
- Donor [539581218] Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 02:09
G24 Managers - You are each invited (although not required) to post your general reflections on the completed draft. Comments may be as detailed or as general as you wish. As a catalyst, free free to comment on any of the following:
1. What was your plan/strategy entering the draft? Were you able to execute as you had planned?
2. What were your favorite picks? Which do you wish you could do over?
3. Looking over all of the teams, which ones do you like the most (other than your own)?
4. What surprised you most about the draft?
5. If you could start over, would you do anything differently?
Non-managers are also welcome to post general comments on the draft, and to raise questions.
Draft Thread
Draft Discussion Thread
IDP Draft Recap |
| 1 | Twarpy
ID: 53443916
Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 02:31
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1. What was your plan/strategy entering the draft? Were you able to execute as you had planned?
I figured with the 2nd pick that DS was going to take Peterson and that my 2nd pick would decide my whole draft. If I went with Lynch I would be taking what I thought were solid short term results, versus Calvin who probably will give longer term results but at a position which has more depth to it. In ultimately deciding on Lynch I tried to put together a team that could compete this year, which ultimately lead to drafting a player like Gostkowski, rather than some of the long shot solid players for next year.
2. What were your favorite picks? Which do you wish you could do over?
After passing on a few of the 'future' WR's in Meachem and Ginn in round 2, I was ecstatic when Sidney Rice was around for my third round pick. I think he can provide a little this year, and possibly be a keeper next year given depending on what he does this year, which is exactly what my team needs.
Time will only tell if I would have been better off grabbing more youthful/higher ceiling guys with my 2nd round pick, but other than that I was happy with my picks.
3. Looking over all of the teams, which ones do you like the most (other than your own)?
I assume were talking purely about draft picks here. I thought bj21 picking up Hackett, as well as some of his other picks (Kolb) were guys that I had targeted for the draft from the onset as a mix of value now, and good future value.
4. What surprised you most about the draft?
Other than the David Boston Pick;)? Where Meachem, Ginn, Stanton etc went, don't get me wrong I love those picks but I thought I was being over eager on those guys when considering them in the early part of the 2nd round (only to have them all go just before or after me)
5. If you could start over, would you do anything differently?
Nothing, I think the draft went very smoothly and I'm glad it finished well ahead of the long weekend.
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| 2 | Slizz
ID: 21733916
Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 11:10
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1. What was your plan/strategy entering the draft? Were you able to execute as you had planned?
My Supplemental Draft strategy differs slightly from the IDP draft strategy due to supply and demand. My initial plan with my 1st round pick was to take the best available player…aka the Ozzie Newsome/Baltimore Ravens blueprint to success. Since our keeper #’s are very limited, there is a chance that likely that the person who I would take at this pick might not make my roster in 2008/09. Therefore, position was not a factor in my choice. I looked at who could potentially have the most trade value, while still helping my team move forward into the playoffs and that player was Tavaris Jackson.
Considering that I already had 2 QB’s on my roster (Favre & Clemens), this pick came as a surprise to some. Here was my rationale: Tavaris Jackson will be the starter in Minnesota all season, has tremendous upside, and would give me two starting QB’s for the next 2-3 seasons, at least. He plays behind an offensive line that features 3 pro bowlers (McKinnie, Hutchinson, Birk), two pro bowl caliber running backs and they are a dome team. In addition to all that, a successful running game will open up the passing game for seasons to come.
Immediately after picking Tavaris Jackson, I started negotiating with two squads for his rights. A deal was almost struck, but we could not come to terms on draft pick compensation. I wanted to give up Jackson & my 3rd round pick in exchange for their 1st and 2nd round picks. They felt it was too much, I felt it was fair value per the NFL Trade Value Chart*. The other team I was in negotiation with wanted to hold off until their 2nd round pick and in the end, each team got their guys. Additionally, I received two offers via email which I did not check to the following morning. One was a 1st round pick, a WR, and a 4nd round draft pick. Unfortunately, I did not get back to them in time…otherwise, I would have jumped on it. The other offer I received was immediately deleted and not even worth considering.
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*Assigns a value to each draft pick and in order to trade up, you would have to come up with that point total. http://www.profootballtalk.com/draftchart.htm
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In the end, I still have 9.375% of the starting QB’s (assuming Clemens starts) in the NFL on my squad. In the event someone goes down, a deal can always be reasonably struck for one of them, if the price is right. At the end of the year my worst case scenario is that I get zero compensation when Lord Favre walks away, and I can live with that.
In the 2nd round, I was going best available runningback no matter what. Considering that the learning curve for a rookie at that position is the quickest in the NFL, I felt that I could secure someone who will not only contribute, but also be a potential keeper for the 2008-09 season. The target in that round was none other then Brian Leonard from Rutgers. I have a feeling that Leonard can and will put up Larry Centers type #’s as a rookie (300-400 rushing yards and 40+ receptions for another 400+ yards). You’re probably thinking I’m a tad crazy for thinking that way but consider this: Scott Linehan wants to significantly reduce Stephen Jackson’s touches per game to ensure longevity and freshness come playoff time (good for the Rams, bad for fantasy owners).
In the 3rd round, I was going with the best available WR and another RB. I was looking at WR’s who offered me boom/bust type success. If they hit, great, if not, I’ll cut them no love lost. I searched the Free Agent database to find out if there were any players who A) were young, never lived up to their hype, and still had upside and/or B) candidate for a bounce back season due to reasons out of his hands (bad QB throwing to him, starting QB went down, etc.) After seeing what was out there, it came down to Eric Moulds or Roddy White.
I think it’s safe to say that Moulds was in a terrible situation at Houston last year with the crappy and god awful David Carr throwing the ball to him. Remember, two seasons back in Buffalo he was one of the few WRs in the NFL that was double & TRIPLE TEAMED on almost every play! His skill set was not meant for those 3-5 yard slant patterns and short passes from the vomit inducing play of David Carr (typical David Carr game, 18-23 150 yards 1 TD 2 INT). So my initial thought was: “Maybe now with a new QB throwing the ball to him, he would see more success with Vince Young”. While I still do think Moulds will be one of the biggest beneficiaries to have that “bounceback” season, I elected to go with Roddy White instead because of the upside factor.
Roddy White’s production (or lack thereof) over the past 2 seasons can be attributed to the fact that Michael Vick really wasn’t that great of a QB. In my opinion, Vick was nothing more then a RB who happened to throw the ball. The Falcons have two 1st round WRs (2004 – Michael Jenkins, 2005 – Roddy White) and brought in the highly touted WR Peerless Price. Despite all that, their vertical game still stunk…coincidence??? I think not. It was either run or dump the ball off to Alge Crumpler in the flats (great for Crumpler’s fantasy owners, bad for everyone else who had a piece of the Falcons vertical attack.)
My belief is that White really is a quality WR with upside still (4.3 40 and 42 inch vertical) and his sub-par production over the past two seasons can be attributed to the QB/RB throwing the ball to him, like Moulds. However, unlike Moulds, he still has a lot of upside to him…thus making him a great fit for my squad.
For my other pick in the 3rd round, I wanted to go with Lorenzo Booker. I really didn’t have a queue of players set up, so like poker, I was all aboard on the Booker train. I was hoping that people were buying into the Jessie Chatman hype and he would fall to me at that pick. It’s no secret that in today’s NFL that even day 2 rookies contribute their first year. Therefore, you don’t draft a RB on day 1 to stash him on the bench. In 2002, Booker was the #3 recruit in all of HS, behind only Vince Young & Haloti Ngata. However, unlike Young & Ngata, Booker never lived up to his hype in college. SW (FSU Alum) will agree with me that it can partly be attributed to a porous offensive line, bad play calling, and absolutely zero QB play. I know the Dolphins say that Booker isn’t the #2, but with athletic talent like Booker’s combined with the fact they drafted him on day 1, there is no way he wont get touches his rookie year. I envision Leon Washington (another FSU back) type production his first year.
4th round my goal was to draft a kicker with a week 4 bye to mesh with the Jaguars’ bye week. So, like GO, that way I can just take my D/ST & K lumps in one week and be done with. That left me two options: Rob Bironas and Shaun Suisham. Fortunately for me, Bironas was still there and I handed in my card as soon as I was notified of it!
For my final two picks, I wanted to secure more RB depth and a backup TE for Marcedes Lewis over his bye week. The reason why I went so heavy on RB is that in a league like this, they can be very valuable especially if one starting RB happens to go down. The last RB spot came down to Dwayne Wright of Buffalo or Kenneth Darby of Tampa Bay. Wright drew rave reviews during OTA’s, Minicamp, and Training Camp…but we all know that he will be playing second fiddle to Marshawn Lynch, and possibly Anthony Thomas (Dick Jauron favorite). Darby, without a question is the unheralded #2 in Tampa Bay. With Michael Pittman moving to Fullback, Tampa has no continuity plan other then Darby. If Caddy gets banged up again…he might be able to provide me with a couple productive weeks and be the difference between the playoffs and looking in.
Last but not least, we come to my final pick in my first supplemental draft, Jerramy Stevens. It was between him or Alex Smith, the other Bucs TE. Stevens got the nod b/c he’s 6’7 and during a bye week, I liked his odds better for TD’s then I did Alex Smith.
In conclusion, I believe I maximized value by consistently taking the best player available and significantly improved my team for the short and long term. I now have 3 potential starting QB’s (assuming Clemens starts), 5 RB’s who all will see action in 2007, 3 solid WR’s (two potential pro bowlers & White), and a pass-catching TE in an offense chock full of receivers who can't (Marcedes Lewis) to go along with my D/ST. The Bills have finally turned the corner and we aren’t looking back!
2. What were your favorite picks? Which do you wish you could do over?
My favorite pick(s) came in the 3rd round: Roddy White & Lorenzo Booker. I really think White is going to be very productive under Bobby Petrino and have a bounceback season. Another pick I really liked is Lorenzo Booker, I think he is primed for a good career, and in my case I hope I see some return on my investment this season. Then again, so did FSU and they were let down...but I'll remain optimistic! :)
Believe it or not, I was able to obtain everyone I had targeted pre-draft.
3. Looking over all of the teams, which ones do you like the most (other than your own)?
I will repost on this question once I am able to thoroughly look over everyone’s draft.
4. What surprised you most about the draft?
I could give the most obvious answer: 1.05 – David Boston, but what surprised me the most was Stephen Gostkowski pick combined with the run on kickers in the 2nd round. Don’t get me wrong, I think Gostkowski will be a good kicker in the NFL, but to pick a kicker in the 2nd round, especially when there were more impact rookies or players that could contribute at that juncture (Ted Ginn Jr., Robert Meachem, Brian Leonard, etc.) surprised me a lot. Credit to Twarpy though for hitting a homerun with Sidney Rice in the 3rd and Moulds in the 4th where I believe kickers should have gone.
5. If you could start over, would you do anything differently?
SW knows my answer to this: I would’ve avoided swapping the 10 for 11 picks in the trade for Kellen Clemens. That way, I could have gotten my hands Anthony Gonzalez (my #4 rated rookie – this year only) instead of Tavaris Jackson. I most note that if I chose Anthony Gonzalez, I would have avoided choosing Roddy White in the 3rd round…so I can’t totally regret making that trade.
Another thing I have thought to myself about doing differently now would be cutting Marcedes Lewis and keeping Stephen Gostkowski. I did not anticipate the Bull market on kickers early on in the draft. That way, instead of drafting Bironas in the 4th round, I still could have got an impact TE such as Marcedes Lewis or Visanthe Shiancoe! Only time will tell who will be a better kicker: Bironas or Gostkowski? Preseason, I am giving the nod to Stephen Gostkowski, but we’ll revisit this at the end of the season.
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| 3 | Action Figure
ID: 420372221
Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 14:29
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...but what surprised me the most was Stephen Gostkowski pick combined with the run on kickers in the 2nd round.
I wanted Gostkowski and I was going to take him in the second round. Needless to say I was disappointed when Twarpy took him and I wasn't going to let my "number 2" kicker get away.
I liken the run on kickers to looting, once the window is broken, grab what you can and run like hell.
If you look at that round as round 2 then that means over half the kickers were already gone in rounds -7 through zero.
I look at round 2 as round 10 and I got a dome kicker on what should be a fairly high scoring team.
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| 4 | Slizz
ID: 21733916
Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 15:23
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...I liken the run on kickers to looting, once the window is broken, grab what you can and run like hell.
You can say that again. I was seeing these guys get picked up left and right and thats when I immediately thought to myself that it was a mistake to hold on to Lewis instead of Gostkowski. Looking back, I can see the market for TE's is not nearly as hot as the market for K's. I should have done my homework and realized that if Scheffler was a FA at the end of the season, odds are Marcedes Lewis would've fell to me regardless.
As for your point of view, I generally try to avoid drafting kickers until the dregs of the draft. Last year with the 16.10 pick (or somewhere around there), I got Robbie Gould and he turned out to be pretty damn good for me...All in all, everyone values their players/positions differently. I know next year I can expect to see a run on kickers in the 2nd...lol.
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| 5 | Perm Dude
ID: 19758307
Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 15:26
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That's probably a wise strategy. I held onto Elam as a keeper myself, mostly because my keeper possibilities were just so bad! I'm glad, however, to avoid the run on kickers. In fact, knowing that there would, at some point, be a run on kickers by other managers helped me to look at a number of players closer while everyone else was grabbing a kicker.
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| 6 | Twarpy
ID: 53443916
Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 15:28
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Slizz great review, the way I look at Gostkowski is that he is a top 5 kicker, and would be a sure single or double while Meachem, Ginn, Leonard etc could be homeruns they also could be strikeouts this year. We can only keep 8 offensive players so I went with more of a sure thing.
Kickers can have value in this league especially when we are stretched so thin with the starting RB's and WR's, I fully expect Gostkowski to get more fantasy points than any of the three guys mentioned.
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| 7 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 15:59
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The difference between a top kicker and a bottom kicker when averaged over the course of the year isn't that much. I wouldn't have held Graham if Houston hadn't left the Jets and the NFL. Like PD, I didn't have other options. Now Graham is dinged up but I was able to get a Kicker at 7.16. Last year Robbie Gould was picked up as a free agent.
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| 8 | smallwhirled
ID: 5378169
Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 17:26
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I think Sydney Rice might be the best pick in the whole draft. I was going to pick him at 1.10 if Gonzalez didn't slip through.
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| 9 | Toral
ID: 575542418
Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 18:17
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Just 2 comments here, not a full recap.
1. Obviously the Rice pick was great. he was the last guy left on my rookie sheet and wouldn't have passed me in round 3. However I prob sghould have picked him in round 2 over San Fran DST. I view SF DST as a potentially good upgrade over New Orleans GST, a good value pick for a team in contention; but I don't expect to contend so I should have picked Rice.
2. Drew Carter (permdude) was a damn good value pick in the last round.
Toral
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| 10 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 18:24
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I think AP was the best pick in the entire draft.
;)
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| 11 | Perm Dude
ID: 19758307
Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 19:53
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Toral, you really surprised me with that SF pick. I was looking at them, but didn't think anyone would be looking at a DST for at least another round. You actually scrambled my list a bit with that pick--SF was the only defense I was looking at, for the next round!
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| 12 | Great One
ID: 201155199
Fri, Aug 31, 2007, 11:43
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I was just cracking up reading Slizz's recap... and remembering my discussions with Ref and Cards during the nomination process and them saying "we just want to make sure we are going to have an active contributor" and now he posts entire novels lol...
Thanks for handling my picks everyone. I'll write up a recap once I figure out who is on my team!
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| 13 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Aug 31, 2007, 17:01
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Let me first just give a BIG THANK YOU to all league members for picking so quickly. On avg. it took just 29 mins for us to pick in the IDP draft and 31 mins to pick in the S draft. The S draft was actually at 29 mins too until the very end. So a half hour each is pretty incredible when you consider 24 individuals on different life schedules and time zones. I always think a lot of our West Coast managers who have an odd challenge with the nightly blackout. This is the fastest we've ever drafted and we added two rounds onto our normal S Draft. Pretty incredible. 168 picks in 6 days. Add in 96 picks in 3 days for the IDP draft before that and well, that's the best slow drafts I've ever been a part of.
1. What was your plan/strategy entering the draft? Were you able to execute as you had planned?
I posted before my mock draft of the first 10 picks and I had trade offers that would have allowed me to move up into the top 10 and 13. BUt after a lot of timeand analysis I determined that my biggest need was a QB and the guy I targeted, Tavaris Jackson, should be available at #20. I had picks 16 and 20 and was still prepared to take him at 16. A funny thing happened on the way to my pick though...
First, Slizz--who has a man crush on WR AGonz--traded SW and flip-flopped his pick. AGonz miraculously fell to SW and instead of taking Michael Bush--Slizz took Tavaris as trade bait. He already had this years QB and his QB of the future (maybe both QBs). He knew I was taking Tavaris (anyone who studied my team should have known) and immediately offered him to me. I like Tavaris, but after considering how much Im needing to rebuild, I didn't want to give up my first and second to move up 5 spots for a QB ho was battling and has inept WRs. I knew I could still get Croyle or if I absolutely had to--Frye. So I turned down that trade. I had two other QB offers in the meantime but both were rentals and I was looking for longer term. I took Croyle at 1.16--then he immediately lost the job--but I still think he will eb the starter at some point this year.
With 1.20 I wanted an impact young WR with huge upside. I looked at so many guys--mainly rookies. Jarrett, Rice, Jacoby Jones, James Jones, Stovall--made an offer to get AGonz, etc. I also looked at Brian Leonard and he became my runner-up pick. But in the end, Bowe has what I'm looking for. He's a burner, a big play receiver who also has the starting job locked down. I still took some time though because KC's O-Line isn't what it used to be and teh QB situation is iffy at best. Add to that LJ's unreadiness and possible keying on the pass made me pause. But the upside was just too much to ignore. Hopefully my Croyle-Bowe combination will be great in future years.
Demetrius Williams also has tremendous upside. I had looked at him but he wasn't in my top 4 initially until someone asked me about him. When I looked harder and read what some of the reporters who witnessed his training camp were saying, he immediately came ino the mix. I looked hard at Marcel Shipp here as well. Furrey, Kennison, Rice and Roydell Williams. I felt Furren and Kennison were rentals. I compared Demetrius to the others and just liked him better than them. I thought about getting Rice or Shipp here and see if Demetrius made it back to me, but in the end, I didn't want to chance it. All my guys ended up going off the board pretty quickly except for Shipp, so I started looking and reading more and saw that JJ was playing well and could get a few touches too. I decided that I'd take a chance on Battle and see if Shipp fell to 3.22. He did and I got him there. Shipp should get a lot more touches this year and will be the short yardage-GL back. I'm so RB depleted that I may have to use that this year at times. I kept wanting to get a backup QB but I didn't. Still having contacts about QBs trades so I just held off and tried to cover bye weeks and pickup trade chips.
2. What were your favorite picks? Which do you wish you could do over?
I'd feel a lot better if I got Tavaris. Slizz told me later that if he traded Tavaris to me he was going to take Bowe and he also took my second choice of Leonard in the 2nd so at least we're on the same page--just got our books intermingled!
3. Looking over all of the teams, which ones do you like the most (other than your own)?
DS really helped himself by winning hte lottery and getting his hands on AP. He also has some solid keepers and could be a big contender this year. I thought PD had a couple good drafts, though really thought he'd take Quinn with that first pick to get his QB. He didn't do bad at all in Jackson though. SW just had a sensational draft--getting Russell and AGonz. Not sure how much they will help this year but good for his franchise. Twarpy made some very nice picks. Yokel reloaded. Slizz could have a good team moving forward with Leonard and Booker.
4. What surprised you most about the draft?
The Supp draft always has surprises for me as I'm not always well-read on some of the NFL teams or the rookies and each G24 team has different needs and short/long term goals that may differ from mine.
That being said. The David Boston pick was just out of nowhere. I mean he was good for a minute but that has been a few hours ago. I like Stovall much better on the Bucs and with his team rebuilding and all of he rookie talent and potential still on the board I was just shocked. I had him pegged for Jackson and I'm sure he did too, but when PD took him, I assumed Pete would nab Quinn or Russell and try to move Leftwich. SW really lucked out as this allowed him to get his QB he coveted and another hot WR. SW said he would have taken Olsen over AGonz nd almost didn't take AGonz afterall and that would have menat Tavaris slipped.
Which leads meto my next surprise: GO taking Charlie Frye at 1.14. The a bigger surprise was how much he got for him when Quinn should take over that role soon. I started wondering why PD didn't jsut take Quinn? GO said he would have taken Tavaris and traded him. At least that would have made more sense to me. At least it allowed Croyle to fall to me who is in line to be the future of the KC QB slot. At least Frye is starting so he does have some value for now.
Another big surprise to me was Doug taking Drew Stantion at 2.02. This guy is on IR and will miss the year. To me that is a huge reach and made zero sense. He will get no practice time I'm assuming and it won't even be like a red shirt year--almost like being a rookie again next year but w/o the year experience. This guy should be very good and he is the heir apparent of the QB slot--and he wanted him bad--I just felt that he could have gotten him at the end of the draft or even off the FA wire during the year--but I could be wrong. What's more is that he traded his DST prekeeper's for that pick. But to each their own. He could be the one laughing later on.
5. If you could start over, would you do anything differently?
Yeah, I probably would have traded for a QB or at least accepted one of the offers to move up in the draft. But a few of my picks ahve tremendous upside so we shall see what happens.
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| 14 | Perm Dude
ID: 52737319
Fri, Aug 31, 2007, 17:16
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I thought PD had a couple good drafts, though really thought he'd take Quinn with that first pick to get his QB. He didn't do bad at all in Jackson though
Thanks. I worked my butt off in research for these two drafts. I was tired of seeing my team at the bottom and I knew there is virtually no way to move up through the waiver wire.
That said, GO and I had a rash of emails early on, as he was looking to make some moves and knew I wanted to make some noise this year. He was going to take Tavaris for me, in fact, then Slizz picked him up (I would have never guessed he would have taken Tavaris).
With Tavaris gone, I directed GO to get Frye, then made the trade with him. While Quinn is very good, there's no way he's going to start unless Frye falls on his face (or gets injured). I need a starter right now, not next year. That said, I believe the Cleveland offense has taken a small, but significant qualitative step this year and if they do as well as I expect Frye will continue to hold the reins. It wouldn't surprise me if Frye ended up as a very good second-tier QB this year, which is a significant step up for my team, what with no starting QB at all for about half of last season.
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| 15 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Aug 31, 2007, 17:24
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PD, if that happens, you will be rewarded.
What confounds me is that I could have moved up to #13 or #10/#11 and I just didn't think that any team above me would take Tavaris. Even after Slizz took him, I could have had him but took what ended up being Croyle, Bowe and Demetrius W. over him. Just when you think you have it figured out, you don't!!! ;)
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| 16 | StLCards
Dude
ID: 31010716
Fri, Aug 31, 2007, 18:08
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1. What was your plan/strategy entering the draft? Were you able to execute as you had planned?
My plan was to take Anthony Gonzalez at #22 so I guess I wasn't even close to executing that. My other plan was to not take a K in round 1 this year and be scoffed at, so I kept my kicker instead ;) I was debating whether to drop my kicker or to drop Demetrius Williams. Wilkins is a top kicker and Williams is battling for the 3rd WR spot with a QB that can't throw deep, and I didn't have a 2nd or 3rd draft pick to get another kicker with, so I think I made the right decision. Once I dropped Williams I only had 1 WR so that was my target in round 1. I didn't bother researching as anyone I came up with would be gone anyway. Jarrett caught my eye as someone that might be an endzone target and they are always good. Colbert is still ahead of him on the depth chart though so he is more of a longer term project similar to what Lloyd and Williams were for me in previous years, so I don't hold out much real hope, but maybe the third time is the charm.
With my 2nd pick in the 4th round I still needed a WR that would start and when it came my turn Marty Booker said take me, so I did. I really didn't care about all the rookie RBs buried on the depth chart or the 4th WRs that may play one year down the road as the bench is too thin to carry those guys for long anyway if you want to compete by covering bye weeks. So with my next picks I took all young unproven guys that will likely be dropped soon anyway.
2. What were your favorite picks? Which do you wish you could do over?
Don't know yet, but it could be the undrafted RB Selvin Young. Anyone that has ever owned a Broncos' RB knows how tenuous that job is and I'm already seeing Young as the #2 on some depth charts with Mike Bell being bumped down.
3. Looking over all of the teams, which ones do you like the most (other than your own)?
Well, I don't like my own team and didn't like my draft, so it's hard to say. I guess DS getting Adrian Peterson or Promize getting Calvin Johnson would be my picks.
4. What surprised you most about the draft?
The Boston pick for sure.
5. If you could start over, would you do anything differently?
Not sure what I'd do any different.
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| 17 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Aug 31, 2007, 19:01
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Oh great, I had Garrard typed into my draft and just couldn't pull the trigger. Have two backups and no starters meant I still would have to trade for one and then I'd have 3 QBs. My luck this year has been the worst ever. Oh well. Maybe some of these youngsters will pan out.
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| 18 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Fri, Aug 31, 2007, 23:00
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I wasn't in the league from the beginning, but I think it's safe to say that the overall knowledge of the majority of fantasy footballers (everywhere, not just this league) has increased quite a bit with the information available on the internet. I used to see tons of my sleepers still as FA in most of leagues with no room on my bench for them. Unless you join a random yahoo league with a bunch of yahoos (how fun can that really be?), you just don't see that anymore.
What was your plan/strategy entering the draft? Were you able to execute as you had planned?
No plan for me. I gave away my top two picks in this years draft last season acquiring Tiki Barber and the Miami Defense for my play-off run. I watched the Titans lose way too many games for my team in this league. I was happy to get Miami even though I started the wrong defense in my first play-off match-up which cost me the championship. Had I reversed that decision, I could have been drafting last this year. Tiki was a dumb trade, but sometimes you have to do dumb trades, especially in this league, if you want any kind of value.
What were your favorite picks?
1.13 Michael Bush - Will turn out to be the 2nd best RB from this draft
1.21 James Jones - I have to wonder how high he would have gone had we started drafting two weeks ago. I lucked out getting Parker in the 2nd round a couple years ago and was really sweating it as the games were being played. I would have never forgiven myself for not taking him in the first if he blew up and someone else drafted him.
2.11 Zach Miller - I was trying to trade up to get him. Yes, Raider bias kicking in but I think he's going to be a top TE before long.
3.04 Sidney Rice - Already been talked about. Honestly, I don't think he's going to be worth much as long as TJ is throwing the ball (garbage, yes I said it) but I did expect to see him taken much sooner.
5.13 Dwayne Wright - The Bills offense sucks (outside of Evans), but I think this kid has a shot to make an impact whether it's this year or down the road. With Lynch getting all the hype I really did expect to nab this kid a couple picks later.
There are more picks I liked, but I wanted to talk about those.
What surprised you most about the draft?
That GO didn't tell Slizz that kickers get drafted in the first round. Believe me Slizz, it's going to happen every year and it threw me off the first time I drafted as well. Heck, most teams have kept a kicker in the past and you see them drafting their 2nd kicker early. Wait till you try to trade for one to cover a bye week and they want Lendale White and a 2nd round pick next year. Suck up the zero for the week. Oh yeah, and draft a kicker early.
5. If you could start over, would you do anything differently?
Every top new rookie was gone before I even thought about picking in the bottom of the third. Still, I had a few guys I wanted and should have grabbed them right away. I was all set to take Eric Moulds, but noticed he'd been falling in all of my drafts. On a whim, I took Michael Clayton thinking he might get traded and get a fresh start somewhere else. Dumb. Even though I had two more picks just a few away, I should have grabbed who I wanted in that spot. It screwed me up and between that dumb mistake and trying to draft from work, I wasn't very happy.
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| 19 | Slizz
ID: 2574307
Sat, Sep 01, 2007, 20:18
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I am just going to suck it up week 4 TB...Although I am not too worried b/c the difference between a good kicker and average is 20 points, not much over the season. I must note that I did get worried after they were getting signed left and right though!
As for your top picks TB, I only passed on Michael Bush b/c he is an even fatter, lazier lenwhale white. God knows I need two of them on my team!!! Maybe I'm wrong and he'll turn out to be a star in the NFL. I just know you gotta work your ass off to stay on top of your game, and I there had to be a reason Petrino passed on the guy multiple times. Its widely known that he barely conditions, even when he was scoring all those TDs @ Louisville. Speaking of...if he does do what he did at Louisville, I made the bonehead pick of the draft :)
As for Sidney Rice, I think his rookie impact will be minimal, as it is for most WR's. However, hes a guy who will have to be held on to for a couple seasons before you'll see dividends.
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| 20 | Perm Dude
ID: 5381919
Sat, Sep 01, 2007, 22:28
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That dividend will only come when his team starts passing the ball!
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| 21 | TB
Sherpa
ID: 031811922
Sat, Sep 01, 2007, 22:29
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As for Sidney Rice, I think his rookie impact will be minimal, as it is for most WR's. However, hes a guy who will have to be held on to for a couple seasons before you'll see dividends.
Exactly. There are only so many rookies who make an impact and very few of them are at the WR position.
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| 22 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Sep 06, 2007, 11:49
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Passing on Garrard is haunting me. Also passed on McCown thinking they'd assuredly go with Daunte and with Russell in the offing...oh well.
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