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Game sites:     Football Pickoff     TSN Football     CBS Sportsline     Fanball Commissioner     Onion Fantasy Football     RotoHog     Sandbox     Yahoo Football     Yahoo Football Plus     Yahoo Survival Football 0 Subject: REGGIE WHITE INVITATIONAL Posted by: barilko6 - [36197] Thu, Aug 07, 2008, 08:29 Here is the new thread, for our newly named league. I will copy and paste posted keepers to this thread. 1 barilko6       ID: 36197       Thu, Aug 07, 2008, 08:31 KEEPERS DECLARED SO FAR: RussellDL Tom Brady QB Eli Manning QB Willie Parker RB Marion Barber RB Joey Galloway WR Sarge: B Westbrook RB S Jackson RB J Cutler QB J Delhomme QB D Bowe WR Golffreak: LaDainian Tomlinson (SD - RB) Torry Holt (StL - WR) Santonio Holmes (Pit - WR) Rudi Johnson (Cin - RB) Tony Gonzalez (KC - TE) JTSerb Peyton Manning Steve Smith Larry Fitzgerald Marshawn Lynch Matt Leinhart 2 barilko6       ID: 36197       Thu, Aug 07, 2008, 08:34 Draft Order: 1. Frick 2. Electroman 3. Fighting Seabees (Dwfffan) 4. Sarge 5. Wiggs 6. JTSerb 7. Chuck 8. Doug 9. Golffreak 10. Promize 11. RussellDl 12. Barilko 3 dwfffan       ID: 4068192       Thu, Aug 07, 2008, 08:45 Randy Moss (NE - WR) Brandon Marshall (Den - WR) Clinton Portis (Was - RB) Michael Turner (Atl - RB) Kellen Winslow (Cle - TE) 4 Frick       ID: 23117516       Thu, Aug 07, 2008, 09:02 Doug, send me an e-mail. I'm curious if you are interested in trading one of you WRs. 5 Electroman       ID: 12638144       Thu, Aug 07, 2008, 13:37 Keepers: Joseph Addai (IND - RB) Philip Rivers (SD - QB) Anquan Boldin (ARI - WR) Roy Williams (DET - WR) Aaron Rodgers (GB - QB) 6 wiggs       ID: 356191618       Thu, Aug 07, 2008, 16:14 Keepers Drew Brees Larry Johnson Laurence Maroney Terrell Owens Chad Johnson 7 Frick       ID: 23117516       Fri, Aug 08, 2008, 08:16 Frick's Keepers Donovan McNabb, QB Tarvaris Jackson, QB Reggie Wayne, WR Frank Gore, RB Ronnie Brown, RB 8 Promize       ID: 8857295       Fri, Aug 08, 2008, 17:25 Promize Keepers (guess I need to hurry, willing to trade some picks for RB's) Derrick Anderson (QB) Tony Romo (QB) Antonio Gates (TE) and....? 9 Promize       ID: 8857295       Fri, Aug 08, 2008, 17:29 By the way, are we sweeting the pot this year? We talked about it all time last year before the season but then no one ever collected money... 10 Promize       ID: 8857295       Fri, Aug 08, 2008, 17:31 BTW sorry on the delay guys.. Just made a new move as well as new job as well as trying to move out of the old place. 11 barilko6       ID: 57724816       Fri, Aug 08, 2008, 17:34 Promize, I sent you an email 12 barilko6       ID: 57724816       Fri, Aug 08, 2008, 18:06 Chuck's Keepers Carson Palmer Matt Hassleback Jason Whitten Brandon Jacobs Willis McGahee Barilko's Keepers Ryan Grant Jon Kitna Adrian Peterson Ben Roethlisberger Andre Johnson 13 barilko6       ID: 57724816       Fri, Aug 08, 2008, 18:10 *************TRADE ANNOUNCEMENT!!!************** Promize Trades: 2nd Round Pick Barilko Trades: Reggie Bush 5th Round Pick 14 Doug       ID: 53937413       Fri, Aug 08, 2008, 20:38 Braylon Edwards WR Marques Colston WR TJ Houshmanzadeh WR Calvin Johnson WR Seriously no takers on any of these guys? I did send an email Frick. 15 Doug       ID: 53937413       Sat, Aug 09, 2008, 00:52 QB David Garrard RB Maurice Jones-Drew RB Selvin Young WR Braylon Edwards WR Marques Colston 16 JTSERB       Donor       ID: 481020120       Sat, Aug 09, 2008, 03:58 Please Edit My Keepers To.. Peyton Manning Steve Smith Larry Fitzgerald Marshawn Lynch Lendale White 17 wiggs       ID: 356191618       Sat, Aug 09, 2008, 11:58 did promize leave official keepers somewhere? 18 barilko6       ID: 12717911       Sat, Aug 09, 2008, 12:17 Yep... He emailed them to me last night, but I am just getting back in now, so here are Promize's keepers: Derrick Anderson (QB) Tony Romo (QB) Antonio Gates (TE) Reggie Bush (RB) Edgerrin James (RB) 19 wiggs       ID: 356191618       Sat, Aug 09, 2008, 12:25 cool, thank you. 20 Electroman       ID: 12638144       Sun, Aug 10, 2008, 08:24 When was the draft starting? 21 sarge33rd       ID: 76442923       Sun, Aug 10, 2008, 09:16 dont think it has yet. 22 russelldl       ID: 466412420       Sun, Aug 10, 2008, 10:32 the previous thread said we are starting monday. 23 GolfFreak       Leader       ID: 01730209       Sun, Aug 10, 2008, 11:27 where is draft? here? On the Clock? If OTC would be nice to start putting Q in? 24 sarge33rd       ID: 76442923       Sun, Aug 10, 2008, 11:43 shrit...I'm in Dallas at a conference all day tomorrow. wont be back until late in the evening. Went to Kafenbatid site and the league doesnt show as being there yet, so cant put in a queue. 25 barilko6       ID: 52612922       Sun, Aug 10, 2008, 12:06 Yeah, I will need to set up Kafenatid and get everyone in first, and I can't do that until tomorrow, so lets move the start time back to Wednesday. That will give everyone a chance to get signed up and ready to go. If we get everyone in before then, we can always start without a clock, starting with Frick. Sound good? I will also have to enter all the keepers in as well. 26 sarge33rd       ID: 76442923       Sun, Aug 10, 2008, 12:12 *sigh of relief goes here* :) 27 barilko6       ID: 52612922       Sun, Aug 10, 2008, 12:20 Sarge, I am all about making sure everything is good for you. Now just trade me your first round and 8th round picks for my 3rd and 6th. 28 sarge33rd       ID: 76442923       Sun, Aug 10, 2008, 12:30 did you say my 6th and 8th for your 1st and 3rd? Deal! :) 29 JTSERB       Donor       ID: 481020120       Sun, Aug 10, 2008, 20:59 Wednesday sounds good for me. I finsihed moving today and will be a couple days before settling in and the new comp comes.. JT 30 barilko6       ID: 52612922       Mon, Aug 11, 2008, 11:18 Alright, I have requested a draft from Kafenatid. Will let you all know when it comes up. As for draft pick trades, this is what I have: Sarge gets Barilko`s 4th Round Pick Barilko gets Sarge`s 19th Round Pick Barilko gets Promize`s 2nd Round Pick Promize gets Barilko`s 5th Round Pick 31 barilko6       ID: 52612922       Mon, Aug 11, 2008, 13:05 Kafenatid is up! To sign up for the league draft, please go to http://www.kafenatid.net/on_the_clock/index.php and click on the "Register For a Draft" link. League ID: 244 League Password: mod 32 barilko6       ID: 36197       Tue, Aug 12, 2008, 09:49 Just missing Sarge, JTSerb, and Golffreak on Kafenatid. Once everyone is in I can start inputing the keepers. 33 sarge33rd       ID: 99331714       Tue, Aug 12, 2008, 10:14 well shoot....league ID/password? :) 34 sarge33rd       ID: 99331714       Tue, Aug 12, 2008, 10:18 found the League Name/pw in the other thread, but the system wont take that. Its looking for a number for league ID. 35 wiggs       Sustainer       ID: 04991311       Tue, Aug 12, 2008, 10:20 league number is 244 36 sarge33rd       ID: 99331714       Tue, Aug 12, 2008, 10:23 thanks wiggs. :( now it doesnt like the password of "ministerofdefense" from post 220 in this thread: link 37 wiggs       Sustainer       ID: 04991311       Tue, Aug 12, 2008, 10:24 pw mod 38 sarge33rd       ID: 99331714       Tue, Aug 12, 2008, 10:40 *in* thanks again wiggs. lol 39 GolfFreak       Leader       ID: 01730209       Tue, Aug 12, 2008, 19:18 In 40 Electroman       ID: 12638144       Wed, Aug 13, 2008, 05:12 I don't know what time the draft is starting, but I am off for work now, and won't be back till this afternoon, 2:30. No internet access. So if my turn comes up, I don't want to time out and be skipped. Thanks. 41 barilko6       ID: 48747137       Wed, Aug 13, 2008, 08:48 I can't enter keepers or set a draft order until we get JTSerb signed up into Kafenatid, so I guess its just a waiting game at this point. 42 Frick       ID: 23117516       Wed, Aug 13, 2008, 08:53 I'm ready with the first pick if you want to start the draft with or without a clock. 43 barilko6       ID: 48747137       Wed, Aug 13, 2008, 09:12 We can make the first 5 picks here without a clock, and then wait on JT with pick number 6. Just make sure to bold it up and CTRL-F this thread to see if he is a keeper. Anyways, if you want to go, pick away Frick!!! Get this baby started! 44 barilko6       ID: 48747137       Wed, Aug 13, 2008, 09:24 FINAL LIST OF KEEPERS RussellDL Tom Brady QB Eli Manning QB Willie Parker RB Marion Barber RB Joey Galloway WR Sarge: B Westbrook RB S Jackson RB J Cutler QB J Delhomme QB D Bowe WR Golffreak: LaDainian Tomlinson (SD - RB) Torry Holt (StL - WR) Santonio Holmes (Pit - WR) Rudi Johnson (Cin - RB) Tony Gonzalez (KC - TE) JTSerb Peyton Manning Steve Smith Larry Fitzgerald Marshawn Lynch Lendale White Promize: Derrick Anderson (QB) Tony Romo (QB) Antonio Gates (TE) Reggie Bush (RB) Edgerrin James (RB) Doug: QB David Garrard RB Maurice Jones-Drew RB Selvin Young WR Braylon Edwards WR Marques Colston Chuck's Keepers Carson Palmer Matt Hassleback Jason Whitten Brandon Jacobs Willis McGahee Barilko's Keepers Ryan Grant Jon Kitna Adrian Peterson Ben Roethlisberger Andre Johnson Frick's Keepers Donovan McNabb, QB Tarvaris Jackson, QB Reggie Wayne, WR Frank Gore, RB Ronnie Brown, RB Wiggs: Drew Brees Larry Johnson Laurence Maroney Terrell Owens Chad Johnson Electroman: Joseph Addai (IND - RB) Philip Rivers (SD - QB) Anquan Boldin (ARI - WR) Roy Williams (DET - WR) Aaron Rodgers (GB - QB) Dwfffan Randy Moss (NE - WR) Brandon Marshall (Den - WR) Clinton Portis (Was - RB) Michael Turner (Atl - RB) Kellen Winslow (Cle - TE) Draft Order: 1. Frick 2. Electroman 3. Fighting Seabees (Dwfffan) 4. Sarge 5. Wiggs 6. JTSerb 7. Chuck 8. Doug 9. Golffreak 10. Promize 11. RussellDl 12. Barilko 45 Frick       ID: 23117516       Wed, Aug 13, 2008, 09:42 1.01 Darren McFadden 46 barilko6       ID: 48747137       Wed, Aug 13, 2008, 09:47 Is it just me, or is there a lot of really nice players available? 47 Electroman       ID: 12638144       Wed, Aug 13, 2008, 14:43 1.02 Ernest Graham, RB, TB 48 dwfffan       ID: 4068192       Wed, Aug 13, 2008, 18:06 1.03 Jonathan Stewart, RB, CAR 49 sarge33rd       ID: 99331714       Wed, Aug 13, 2008, 18:23 1,04 Matt Leinart QB AZ 52 dwfffan       ID: 4068192       Wed, Aug 13, 2008, 18:46 I don't see Leinart being kept by anyone? 54 sarge33rd       ID: 99331714       Wed, Aug 13, 2008, 19:07 No, actually he didnt. Had him down up above, but not in his final list....deleted ammended pick and stuck with first choice: Leinhart 55 wiggs       ID: 356191618       Wed, Aug 13, 2008, 20:28 1.05 TJ Housmanzada WR CIN 56 JTSERB       ID: 527291320       Wed, Aug 13, 2008, 22:12 Hey guys im back up and running on the net again. finally moved in. I have to go to work now, but will get caught up with everything in the morning and make my pick. Thanks for the patience JT 57 GolfFreak       Leader       ID: 01730209       Wed, Aug 13, 2008, 22:38 Sarge / Wiggs Since we cant get into OTC to make a Q Can i send you a 4man Q for my next pick. I have to goto Green Bay for a internal in the morning and not sure when Ill have a chance to get online. 58 wiggs       ID: 356191618       Wed, Aug 13, 2008, 22:39 send away 59 GolfFreak       Leader       ID: 01730209       Wed, Aug 13, 2008, 23:00 Thanks will send before I crash for the night. Changed it twice all ready. 60 barilko6       ID: 457211322       Wed, Aug 13, 2008, 23:49 JT...Make sure you also sign up in Kafenatid. Draft Number 244 Password MOD 61 JTSERB       ID: 527291320       Thu, Aug 14, 2008, 08:57 1.06 Vince Young, QB, TEN 62 barilko6       ID: 52612922       Thu, Aug 14, 2008, 09:04 Alright, just entering keepers. Kafenatid should be ready to go in a little bit. 63 barilko6       ID: 52612922       Thu, Aug 14, 2008, 09:34 Alright, everything is entered. Two draft pick trades have been entered. I am not going to start the clock right away, just giving everyone a chance to see we are moving. Make all your picks on Kafenatid from here on in. 64 russelldl       ID: 466412420       Thu, Aug 14, 2008, 09:58 I left a cue in case it gets to me. I gotta run out for work and may not be back until this afternoon. Please only use the cue for one pick. Thanks russelldl 65 barilko6       ID: 36197       Thu, Aug 14, 2008, 12:30 I sent an email to Chuck to let him know we are rolling. I will start the 6 hour clock tomorrow, 10:00 EST. Clock will normally run: Weekdays: 8:00 AM - 11:00 PM EST Weekends there will be no clock, which may change depending on our drafting speed, but based on last year I think we will be ok. 66 barilko6       ID: 36197       Thu, Aug 14, 2008, 12:47 Chuck has picked and we are on to Doug. Chuck was the first one to take a player from the ex-champion Barilko squad! Instant Karma!!! 67 barilko6       ID: 36197       Thu, Aug 14, 2008, 12:58 Golffreak is up, for whoever he sent his Queue to. 68 wiggs       Sustainer       ID: 04991311       Thu, Aug 14, 2008, 13:24 i have a queue, but am not a DP-= i sent it to you 69 barilko6       ID: 36197       Thu, Aug 14, 2008, 13:27 Entered. Promize has been emailed as to it being his pick now. 70 barilko6       ID: 36197       Thu, Aug 14, 2008, 16:42 Alright, I have locked in a queue for my pick. Feel free to use it as long as its there. Heading out for a camping trip, will be back in the AM. 71 russelldl       ID: 466412420       Thu, Aug 14, 2008, 22:32 Just want to clarify for the record. The guy I picked, Matt Forte of the Bears, is a running back, not a qb as listed on kafenatid. I'm going to email them and get it cleared up but I just wanted to make sure we were all on the same page. 72 Frick       ID: 23117516       Fri, Aug 15, 2008, 08:26 I apologize for the delay, I didn't take my spreadsheet home last night. I promise to be more prompt with my following picks. 73 Khahan       ID: 547561418       Fri, Aug 15, 2008, 10:37 My 2 Man que is set. Im going to get some sleep. JT 74 Doug       ID: 306152020       Fri, Aug 15, 2008, 11:45 russelldl you can change the position yourself... just click on your name in the draft queue, which brings up your list of players. Then click the name of the player who's position you want to switch. Done. 75 russelldl       ID: 466412420       Fri, Aug 15, 2008, 12:08 Thanks Doug, Fred changed it for me. I'm going to be gone until 5pm. I'll leave a queue and hopefully it wont be empty by my turn. Please only use it for one pick. Thanks. 76 barilko6       ID: 52612922       Fri, Aug 15, 2008, 15:44 Dang...late last night I was thinking I should offer my two second round picks to Frick for his second and 5th or 6th rounder so that I could pick up Mendenhall. Unfortunately he had JUST picked when I finally got on to see if I could swing a deal. Schaub or Mendy was a tough choice for me, hopefully it works out. 77 Frick       ID: 23117516       Fri, Aug 15, 2008, 16:36 I see Wiggs took Marvin. I had his name entered into the pick selection, but couldn't pull the trigger. I'm a Colts fan, but having both WRs didn't seem rationale. Assuming Marvin is fully back and healthy and Manning doesn't miss any time, this could be a huge steal, but there is also a fair amount of risk, overall a great pick in my mind. 78 wiggs       ID: 356191618       Fri, Aug 15, 2008, 18:35 i hesitated on taking him because i am already loaded at WR, but he was too good to pass with pick 90 in my opinion. 79 russelldl       Sustainer       ID: 466412420       Sat, Aug 16, 2008, 00:02 I've got a queue set. Please only use for one pick. 80 Frick       ID: 23117516       Sat, Aug 16, 2008, 11:10 My queue is set if it should make it back to me, please feel free to use it. 81 sarge33rd       ID: 99331714       Sat, Aug 16, 2008, 11:46 top 5 names in my queue...went away in the last 6 picks. :( 82 sarge33rd       ID: 99331714       Sat, Aug 16, 2008, 12:21 dmmt...there went nr 6. ( 83 wiggs       ID: 356191618       Sat, Aug 16, 2008, 12:25 well dont be stealing my players 84 Electroman       ID: 12638144       Sat, Aug 16, 2008, 12:30 Is it just me, or is this draft really moving? 85 sarge33rd       ID: 99331714       Sat, Aug 16, 2008, 12:31 just you. lol I think its dragging azz. Course, that might be due to my leaving on vacation in 4 hours, and wanting to get my picks in before my access becomes spotty at best. 86 sarge33rd       ID: 99331714       Sat, Aug 16, 2008, 12:33 FTR Electroman...your last 2 picks, were the top name on my "next" list. Just to save you some time with your next pick, its Eric Dickerson. ;) 87 Electroman       ID: 12638144       Sat, Aug 16, 2008, 12:43 Wierd, I tried to put him in my Q, but he isn't there. I sent a note for his name to be added in the player list:) 88 sarge33rd       ID: 99331714       Sat, Aug 16, 2008, 12:45 shhhhhhhhhhh its a secret. 89 Electroman       ID: 12638144       Sat, Aug 16, 2008, 13:00 Just thought of something else, since I am takning players that you are targeting, does this mean that my team will suck? 90 barilko6       ID: 52612922       Sat, Aug 16, 2008, 13:00 I probably reached on Chris Johnson, but having traded away my next two picks, I wasn't sure if he would be there 3 rounds later, in round 11. I like his potential, and hope LenDale eats more cheeseburgers. 91 sarge33rd       ID: 99331714       Sat, Aug 16, 2008, 13:04 he wouldnt have been. lol He was the top name on my list when you took him, then Driver moved to the top and Frick took him, That put Cooley at the top, and Electro took him. 92 sarge33rd       ID: 99331714       Sat, Aug 16, 2008, 13:58 3 more hours and I'm unavailable until midday tomorrow. I put 6 players in a que, and named everyone as a DP. Only the first name is available to view. If its after 4pm, feel free to make my next 2 picks (1.12 and 10.4) from that queue. Else, I'd ask you to wait until I can get back. Thanks!!!! 93 russelldl       Sustainer       ID: 466412420       Sat, Aug 16, 2008, 16:00 I left a queue. Please only use it for one pick. 94 sarge33rd       ID: 99331714       Sat, Aug 16, 2008, 16:05 *tap tap tap* waiting, waiting.... 95 sarge33rd       ID: 99331714       Sat, Aug 16, 2008, 16:41 OK, 15 minutes and I'm out of the loop. 6 names in my queue: IF it comes aorund for the traded pick with Barilko (9.12) use the queue.. On pick 10.4 IF the position showing in the queue is the same as that taken in 9.12...do NOT use the queue. Wait for my return please. 96 GolfFreak       Leader       ID: 01730209       Sat, Aug 16, 2008, 20:40 Made 2 man Q. Heading to buddy's house for the game! GopackGo! Made Stray Doug & promize Designated Pickers. 97 Doug       ID: 15733617       Sun, Aug 17, 2008, 11:16 Use my queue for this round (10) only please. 98 sarge33rd       ID: 14716188       Mon, Aug 18, 2008, 09:18 STOP EVERYTHING See post 95 above. Pick 9.12 was a RB and I said if pick 10.4 was for the same position do NOT use the queue....... I'll be back later this afternoon if I can find anothe i-net connection 99 russelldl       Sustainer       ID: 466412420       Mon, Aug 18, 2008, 09:23 Please use my queue for round 11 only 100 sarge33rd       ID: 14716188       Mon, Aug 18, 2008, 09:34 round 11....better not come around until we redo round 10.4 onward........I left clear instructions above, NOT to take 2 guys playing the same position. 101 Electroman       ID: 12638144       Mon, Aug 18, 2008, 09:41 but it is not for the same position. I don't get what the problem is. Is it the 11th round pick? 102 Doug       ID: 15733617       Mon, Aug 18, 2008, 10:20 9.12 = RB 10.04 = TE Like Electro said, is it the 11th round pick that's problematic, not the 10th? 103 barilko6       ID: 52612922       Mon, Aug 18, 2008, 10:44 Sarge, your post was pretty clear, and it looks as though whoever made that pick for round 11 followed your instructions perfectly. Round 9 was a different position than Round 10. Round 11 came and a new player was picked, as no specification was made for that round's selection. For everyone: I think there is some danger letting everyone be your designated picker if you want to include a list of qualifications with your picks. Please just have 1 or 2 pickers, and leave very specific instructions with them so that there is less chance of miscommunication. 104 sarge @ myrtle beach       ID: 107131813       Mon, Aug 18, 2008, 14:16 you're right Brarilko, my bad. 11.04 was the same position as 9.12 and I misread it this morning. To all....my apologies. So my next question becomes, why was 11.04 picked for me instead of waiting??? Too late now, but another RB most certainly would NOT have been my pick there, when I have no backup WR's yet. *shrug* 105 sarge @ myrtle beach       ID: 107131813       Mon, Aug 18, 2008, 14:41 a bit frustrated...1 pick Fri, 1 on Sat and then 3 come around on Sunday?????????? I planned for 2. Yea, I'm irritated atm. 106 barilko6       ID: 52612922       Mon, Aug 18, 2008, 14:59 That's ok, I still only have 2 WR's and I'm not worried yet! Is your queue ok for this round Sarge? 107 russelldl       Sustainer       ID: 466412420       Mon, Aug 18, 2008, 15:18 Sarge, be thankful you aren't in the RIFC AA league I'm commish of. We've already had to delete half a round, we waited about 36 hours for a pick, and we're still in the first of 24 rounds. Our estimated finish time is around Halloween right now! So those guys in that league would kill for that extra RB right now. In all seriousness, I know how frustrating it can be. Its the one tough part of kafenatid, which is otherwise awesome. But it happens to all of us and your squad looks pretty good right now. (I assume they'll all be injured sometime this week). Good luck. 108 GolfFreak       Leader       ID: 01730209       Mon, Aug 18, 2008, 19:47 Ugh! Sorry to hear that Sarge. 109 Electroman       ID: 12638144       Tue, Aug 19, 2008, 05:33 Left a Q, use it for this round only. 110 russelldl       Sustainer       ID: 466412420       Tue, Aug 19, 2008, 08:52 Left a queue for round 13. Back around 1pm 111 sarge @ myrtle beach       ID: 10755198       Tue, Aug 19, 2008, 09:56 just a word of advice...*IF* you are an "A" type personality? Do NOT go to the beach for a vacation...B-O-R-I-N-G as hell. ( Honestly, I'd rather be at work. 112 russelldl       Sustainer       ID: 466412420       Tue, Aug 19, 2008, 15:46 I'm going out until tonight. I left a queue for this round (13). 113 barilko6       ID: 52612922       Tue, Aug 19, 2008, 19:35 As per Electro's post in 109, don't use his queue for Round 14. 114 Promize       ID: 8857295       Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 07:50 If a kicker in my queue comes up back to back picks, just pick one for one round please... 115 JTSERB       ID: 547561418       Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 12:50 Que Set if it runs out I should be home around 10 PM Central 116 Electroman       ID: 12638144       Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 15:51 Sorry about the delay guys. 117 sarge3rd       ID: 42782015       Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 16:09 queue is good for 1 pick only please. 118 barilko6       ID: 52612922       Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 16:20 Guys, make sure you state which round your pick is good for so that there isn't any confusion should the draft hit a fast spot. Sarge's queue is good for Round 15 119 Frick       ID: 23117516       Wed, Aug 20, 2008, 18:29 I actually didn't mean for my queue to be used past round 11, but the players I had in it were never picked. I'm not sure that's a good sign for my team. I just put in some more players so feel free to use it for the next round. I doubt we make it through 1.5 rounds before tomorrow morning. 120 Electroman       ID: 12638144       Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 05:40 Left some players in my queue, hope there are still some when it gets to me. 121 GolfFreak       ID: 477352021       Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 10:23 Someone around? That I can make a DP for just my next pick? 122 barilko6       ID: 417311911       Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 10:23 I am around GF 123 GolfFreak       ID: 477352021       Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 10:25 Just for round 16 please. In meeting for 3-4 hours. THanks 124 sarge33rd @ Wilmingt       ID: 167142111       Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 12:15 queue should be good. 125 barilko6       ID: 52612922       Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 22:11 I do have Sarge's queue, but there is a Defense listed. Not sure if he wants a third defense, so I think we have time to wait. 126 Electroman       ID: 12638144       Thu, Aug 21, 2008, 22:27 Man am I happy that there were players in my queue. Had one of those days, my car locked the keys inside, seriously. 127 Electroman       ID: 12638144       Fri, Aug 22, 2008, 05:48 use my queue for this round. 128 sarge33rd       ID: 34723226       Fri, Aug 22, 2008, 07:30 yep....3rd D. Gonna try playing 'matchups' and see if it isnt 'easier' to pick the right "D" vs trying to second guess which WR is gonna 'go off' that week. All stems from that 11.4 debacle. Had I picked then vs the queue, I'd have gone either WR or D. Was debating 'starting' the D-run vs coming into the middle of it. Had I started it, I'd have afar stronger D than I got and would have held to the more traditional approach of multiple WRs and RBs to play matchups. Since I got 5 RBs early, it meant being a little behind on the WRs. So I have my 'core' grp which barring disaster, wont much change week-to-week. The D, is likely to change on any given week. 129 Electroman       ID: 12638144       Fri, Aug 22, 2008, 15:10 So this draft is over, sweet! Now I can focus on one draft. 130 GolfFreak       Leader       ID: 01730209       Fri, Aug 22, 2008, 15:13 Heading out for the weekend camping w/family and NO CHEETSHEETS!!! So barilko6 if you send out 50+ trade offers I wont see them till Sunday nite. ;) 131 barilko6       ID: 387192122       Fri, Aug 22, 2008, 15:17 I know you really want Ryan Grant... 132 Frick       ID: 23117516       Fri, Aug 22, 2008, 15:51 I only think I picked one player for myself. Good job everyone on a speedy draft overall. Do we have open waivers until the start of the season? I would prefer not to. 133 sarge33rd in wilming       ID: 287132210       Fri, Aug 22, 2008, 16:47 agreed Frick. We just drafted our rosters and I personally oppose any F/A moves until after game 1 is in the books. 134 barilko6       ID: 387192122       Sat, Aug 23, 2008, 15:28 I have most of the rosters entered. Will finalize things either tonight or Monday morning. 135 JTSERB       ID: 547561418       Sun, Aug 24, 2008, 01:44 I think we should be allowed to add/drop players before week 1. There are still preseason games to be played. Injuries happen 136 barilko6       ID: 52612922       Sun, Aug 24, 2008, 08:52 Reading through some of the comments for last year, we had a couple of managers asking for waivers to be open before the first game of the week, and ultimately we ended up allowing pickups before that first game. (Ironically, Frick was one of two managers asking for waiver pickups to be allowed! Frick, why the turn in opinion this year?!?) I think going on precedent is what we need to do here. If we allowed it last year, there might have been the presumption that it would be allowed again this year. Last year we submitted claims on the Wednesday before the season began in reverse draft order, and then closed off the waiver wire until the waiver claim period the following Wednesday. So...Waiver claims may be submitted to me until noon on Wednesday September 3rd. Claims will be processed in reverse draft order. Then all players will be made available until the start of the first game on Thusday, September 4th. After the start of that game, all players will be locked until the following Wednesday waiver claim. Does this seem fair to everyone? (This is how it was done last year) 137 Promize       ID: 8857295       Sun, Aug 24, 2008, 09:45 Hey Bariko, why not let us start placing our players on our teams for Yahoo.. Once the teams are completely full you can go through and make sure everyone has correct players they picked. 138 Frick       Donor       ID: 3410101718       Sun, Aug 24, 2008, 10:39 Barilko, perfect. I wasn't advocating for no waiver moves. I just didn't want open moves. Drafting a player, finding out he got hurt in a preseason game and then seeing someone has poached his back-up because they happened to hear the news before you isn't what I care for. 139 barilko6       ID: 4730249       Sun, Aug 24, 2008, 10:57 I was just yanking your chain Frick! Promize, I have finished off everyone's roster entry. I was just waiting to complete the entry of the results until we have an idea of what we want to do with the waiver wire for that first week. The moment I click enter the results, we have only 2 days to decide, as then all players become available, so I was holding back until we get a true sense of what we want to do. I could start the league as it is, lock rosters and say open claims begin at a certain time, but I want to see if we want: A. Open Claims at an exact starting time. B. Waiver Claims as detailed in Post 136 C. No Adds at all until after week 1. I guess we can vote here. I would vote B. 140 Electroman       ID: 12638144       Sun, Aug 24, 2008, 12:13 If b is what we did last year, I vote for the status quo. 141 Promize       ID: 8857295       Sun, Aug 24, 2008, 12:33 I usually like option C 142 Frick       Donor       ID: 3410101718       Sun, Aug 24, 2008, 13:07 I vote for B. But I could live with C. 143 sarge on Topsail Isl       ID: 537132412       Sun, Aug 24, 2008, 13:15 "C" 144 russelldl       Sustainer       ID: 466412420       Sun, Aug 24, 2008, 13:25 B 145 chuckt       ID: 2726916       Sun, Aug 24, 2008, 14:59 B 146 dwfffan       ID: 4068192       Sun, Aug 24, 2008, 15:00 B 147 barilko6       ID: 52612922       Sun, Aug 24, 2008, 19:04 So far the voting: B - 7 C - 2 I have included JTSerb in the B vote based on his comment in post 135. If this stands, we have a majority. I will start the league, you can all look at your rosters, and email me your waiver claims before Wednesday noon. I am working away from my computer Wednesday until about 2, so I will open waivers at 3:00 EST. If I have a claim, I will email it to Frick as he is first on the list. 148 sarge on Topsail Isl       ID: 137482421       Sun, Aug 24, 2008, 22:49 my team on yahoo shows no players 149 barilko6       ID: 52612922       Sun, Aug 24, 2008, 23:16 Should be there now Sarge... I was holding back to see if there were any strong objections to post 147 150 sarge on Topsail Isl       ID: 5729256       Mon, Aug 25, 2008, 07:39 ndeed they are there Barilko. I had 2 live drafts slated for yesterday, and both went straight to hell on me. 1, the commish changed the host site, and fox sports wouldnt allow me to log in sing a hotmail account. Called it a "reserved domain" name so I'm s.o.. on that one. The other, at yahoo, was a 20 team w/IDP. Commish set that up with only 90 seconds for your picks, and when yahoo loaded for me, not a single IDP showed on my draft board. 3 autopicks later, I said to hell with it. When it was all said and done, the site had auto selected for me, 3 defensive "starters", that dont even have contracts to PLAY in the NFL this year. That one, I also put squarely on the commish. So, I was sorta "ready", for this to go all to hell too, since it seemed to be one of those kinds of days. lol Glad to see that such isnt the case. :) 151 Promize       ID: 8857295       Mon, Aug 25, 2008, 17:50 Little off topic, but Sarge have you checked your email lately about the Golf League... Deadline coming up. :) 152 sarge33rd       ID: 76442923       Mon, Aug 25, 2008, 22:00 lol, to be honest? No I havent. Been on vacation all week and jumped in to do some drafting and then was gone again. Got home tonight, so will be catching up on everything tomorrow/Wed. 153 barilko6       ID: 52612922       Tue, Aug 26, 2008, 07:34 So, I was sorta "ready", for this to go all to hell too You have that little of faith in me?!? Just a note. The free agent waiver claims will be processed NEXT Wednesday, Sept. 3, not tomorrow. 154 sarge33rd       ID: 99331714       Tue, Aug 26, 2008, 10:27 lol no Barilko...I have that pessimistic an outlook. Afterall my friend, have you ever tried to disappoint a pessimist? It aint easily done. ;) As further proof of: 1) how wrong it can go and 2) Challengers 50-50-90 rule which states: Any time you face a 50-50 proposition, there exists a 90% probability you will make the wrong choice: Predraft, Barilko had asked me about QB trades and I said I wasnt sure though Warner was a viable trade option with the questions surrounding AZ and Leinart. So, I drop Warner, take Leinart with my 1st draft selection and Warner is getting the starting gig. :( 155 barilko6       ID: 45829121       Tue, Sep 02, 2008, 08:33 A reminder... All waiver claims are to be submitted to my listed email address above by noon. Do not submit them through Yahoo as there has often been a delay using yahoo messaging. To eliminate and delaying problems, any yahoo claims will not be considered! 156 barilko6       ID: 45829121       Tue, Sep 02, 2008, 08:43 And just for the record, I have already sent a waiver claim list for my team to Promize, as he was the only one who had sent me a claim yet. 157 barilko6       ID: 3783328       Tue, Sep 02, 2008, 09:34 Just an added note to 155...Claims are not due until noon tomorrow!!! I thought today was Wednesday.... If you have sent me a claim, remember it can be changed at anytime up until tomorrow. Just mark in the subject line which email to open first, as they will all remain unchecked until then. 158 wiggs       Sustainer       ID: 04991311       Tue, Sep 02, 2008, 14:57 Barilko. just wanted to make sure you got my claims 159 barilko6       ID: 4681210       Tue, Sep 02, 2008, 15:09 I see an email from you, will open it tomorrow at noon with the others. 160 barilko6       ID: 52612922       Wed, Sep 03, 2008, 12:07 WAIVER CLAIMS 1. Barilko: Claim Flacco Drop Sorgi 2.Promize: Laurent Robinson for Kevin Curtis 3. JTSerb: Claim Chris Taylor, Drop Chris Henry 4. Barilko6: Claim Sage Rosenfelds, Drop Chris Brown Waivers will be open around 12:30. 161 barilko6       ID: 4681210       Thu, Sep 04, 2008, 09:45 I can't remember what the protocol was from last season. Do I lock the all waivers as of the start of tonight's first game, or do waivers stay open until Sunday, with only players who played tonight locked? 162 wiggs       Sustainer       ID: 04991311       Thu, Sep 04, 2008, 09:59 I believe only players who play tonight are locked. 163 barilko6       ID: 52612922       Sun, Sep 07, 2008, 07:58 Alright, since no other comments were brought forth, that is definitely what we will do, as that is what I had thought as well. I will not be around at noon to lock add ons for teams today, so remember, you may not claim any player who is in a game that has already started, even if its only by one minute. Yahoo time stamps all adds, so it will be easy to tell who is eligible, and who was late. Good luck to all this week! (Except Wiggs) 164 russelldl       Sustainer       ID: 466412420       Sun, Sep 07, 2008, 15:34 wiggs, why do you only have 1 QB playing? 165 barilko6       ID: 52612922       Mon, Sep 08, 2008, 09:10 I think its because he didn't draft another guy to start. Alex Smith lost his job. 166 wiggs       Sustainer       ID: 04991311       Mon, Sep 08, 2008, 10:50 barilko is right- I had smith- at the time he was starting, and there are no more left. I have sent out numerous trades but no one is biting. I really think we need to rework this league- I was just looking and WRs are basically useless in this league. 100 and no td is 5 points. Also we have 12 teams and there are only 32 possible qbs- 2 per team start- that is 24 that leaves 8 remaining- with bye weeks there arent even enough qbs to start 2 qbs every week. Also because it is so slim no one will trade a qb. 167 barilko6       ID: 52612922       Mon, Sep 08, 2008, 10:58 While I do agree that we need to possibly look into getting our WR's more valuable, I love the fact that we start 2 QB's each week, as it makes this league much different than any other. Everyone calls the NFL a QB driven league, and I think our league mirrors that by placing a premium on our QB's. But as stated, I do think our WR's are a little undervalued. (And this coming from a manager who has weak WRs!) 168 Frick       ID: 23117516       Mon, Sep 08, 2008, 13:47 I don't have a problem with upping WR values, and by default TE values. I love being in a 2 QB league, it helps break up the monotony of RB/RB drafts, except for the 1 daredevil who went RB/WR or maybe the crazy who went WR/RB. Since QB is arguable the most important player on the field, is it realistic that a winning team should wait until round 9 to draft a starting QB? I do agree that it makes fighting for QBs tough, but there are more than 32 QBs in the league, but the randomness in picking the right back-ups is open for debate. 169 wiggs       Sustainer       ID: 04991311       Mon, Sep 08, 2008, 13:59 well right now for week 1 I did not have a 2nd QB because of Alex Smith losing his job and there is not anythnig to pick up. I realize that QB is important position and all, but it just makes it impossible to compete when there arent enough players at that position. 170 russelldl       Sustainer       ID: 466412420       Mon, Sep 08, 2008, 16:32 well, now that brady is done I'm in the same boat Wiggs. But I still like the 2 QB league. Its a great challenge. Plus, if QBs are so important, how come no one drafted Flacco? Its a keeper league. You had to figure he had a decent shot to start this season if not in the future. Anyway, I need a QB!!! 171 barilko6       ID: 52612922       Mon, Sep 08, 2008, 17:52 I have a starting QB to trade for a RB, or maybe a WR. My starting QB's are: Big Ben Jon Kitna Matt Schaub Joe Flacco Of course, what you offer me will determine which QB I am willing to give up!!! Wiggs...as for having no QB's, I am guessing that it was partly due to your own draft choices. 1st Round Picks: Vince Young Mark Bulger Matt Schaub Bret Farve Second round picks: Jason Campbell Trent Edwards JaMarcus Russell Kurt Warner Third round picks: Brodie Coyle (who is now of course injured) Chad Pennington 4th Round: Matt Ryan 6th Round: JT O'Sullivan 8th Round: Kyle Orton And then of course a guy like Flacco went undrafted. Anyways, it shows that there were lots of QB's out there to be drafted, of course we overpaid to get them, but that is the fun of the QB draft. Do you pick up a true WR2 or an average QB to help the team? Some guys stockpiled the QB's while others waited. That being said, there were some injuries that happened, and now there are QB's once again available. I emailed my own personal waiver claims to a non Reggie White gurupie early this morning before any waiver claims came in. Deadline is Wednesday noon to get your claims in, and it goes from last place team to first place team. Anything past noon will be deleted. Once again, do not rely on the unreliability of Yahoo to send your claims, rather use my direct AOL EMAIL to ensure it gets in. 172 russelldl       Sustainer       ID: 466412420       Mon, Sep 08, 2008, 19:28 if were gonna discuss any rule changes for next year,my suggestion would be not resetting the waiver list until a couple of weeks in. 173 JTSERB       Donor       ID: 481020120       Mon, Sep 08, 2008, 21:11 Without a doubt the only problem I have with this league is the WR is valued so low. Need to go standard 10 Rec Yards = 1 Point. I love the 2 QB system though. 174 russelldl       Sustainer       ID: 466412420       Mon, Sep 08, 2008, 21:44 First, Brady and now Burleson. I think I've got Sarge's team. 175 wiggs       Sustainer       ID: 04991311       Mon, Sep 08, 2008, 22:18 i am not saying there werent qbs available, just saying i had 1 when the draft took place. 176 barilko6       ID: 1785822       Mon, Sep 08, 2008, 23:08 Oh I agree Wiggs, and my list was just to point out that anyone could have drafted one of those guys to add, you could have added any of them to the Wigginator Team!!! re: 172 I never thought about that waiver wire thing Russell, but it makes sense, as it would help the lower teams. In your example though, would the first place team from last year have top waiver claim for those first couple of weeks? 177 russelldl       Sustainer       ID: 466412420       Mon, Sep 08, 2008, 23:19 yes, the first place team would have the first waiver claim for the first couple of weeks. RIFC does it that way (although its a random draft order and its also snaked, no keepers). I personally think it makes more sense to give the people with low draft picks some help (really only one claim because you go back to the end of the list once you pick someone up). As opposed to the team that has the slow start in the first weeks. I understand the argument that it lends to parity in the league but with only a couple of weeks into the season, do we really know who will be the weakest team. With that reasoning we could just set the order everyweek based on who scored the least amount of points the week before. Anyway,Just my opinion. And actually, I think you (barilko) have the best perspective because you've been on both ends of the draft, right? 178 barilko6       ID: 4681210       Tue, Sep 09, 2008, 09:11 Yeah, I have to admit, drafting last year at the top of each round was much more pleasurable than drafting down at the end. I thank AP for that! That being said, I found I was able to get some quality players down at the back of each round, surprised Schaub dropped to me, surprised at some of the other guys I was able to get, but it is a huge disadvantage being at the end of each round, and I think I will be hard pressed to repeat this year. Which I think is good for the league. I would be ok with the scenerio you put forth Russell, provided it lasts for no more than 3 weeks total, and maybe more ideally, just 2 weeks. But taking into account that once you make a claim you go back down to the bottom of the claiming priority, that helps a lot too. It looks like there is interest in bumping up the value of the WR's, so we will have to keep that in mind for future years. 179 wiggs       Sustainer       ID: 04991311       Tue, Sep 09, 2008, 09:19 Russell, I think your idea is great, but i think we need to wait til next year to do something like that. From last season 61 Doug ID: 441251914 Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 19:42 Remind me, does waiver priority reset or carry over week-to-week? Too many leagues to keep track of, LOL... thanks in advance! 62 barilko6 ID: 128511121 Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 22:55 it resets to the last place team each week 180 barilko6       ID: 4681210       Tue, Sep 09, 2008, 09:28 Definitely agreed that we can't change things from how it is already set up for this year, which is how it was set up for last year. (Last to First claiming) 181 barilko6       ID: 4681210       Tue, Sep 09, 2008, 09:36 Guys... I just noticed that two managers picked up players without going through the waiver claiming. I am going to delete both pickups. ALL PLAYERS ARE LOCKED AFTER THE START OF THEIR GAME. We can't let Yahoo do the waiver processing, as that would mean we would have to pay for the Plus league. Please email all waiver claims to my AOL address. And shame on Doug and Sarge, you guys should know better. Double shame. 182 wiggs       Sustainer       ID: 04991311       Tue, Sep 09, 2008, 09:38 my claims should be in. Please confirm. 183 barilko6       ID: 4681210       Tue, Sep 09, 2008, 09:40 Yep, got your email Wiggs. And a reminder, my claims were sent in to an anonymous Gurupie early Monday morning, prior to receiving any claims at all. 184 russelldl       Sustainer       ID: 466412420       Tue, Sep 09, 2008, 10:17 I also agree completely we should wait until next year for any changes. And I'm cool with WR adjustments. 185 barilko6       ID: 4681210       Tue, Sep 09, 2008, 13:19 I have sent out a bunch of trade offers, but in case I missed you, I am looking to deal a QB for a WR. Of the offers that are out there, first come first serve. 186 Electroman       ID: 12638144       Tue, Sep 09, 2008, 17:55 Just so I get my 2 cents in while the topic is up, next year would be good to adjust the WR's. 187 GolfFreak       ID: 35832420       Tue, Sep 09, 2008, 18:55 Maybe a vote for next year you can only keep a max of... 1 QB 2 RB 2 WR 2 TE 2 Def 2 K ;) I do love starting 2QB even though mine suck. Wish I keep Farve and not Rudi... Make up you mine BRETT!!! 188 russelldl       Sustainer       ID: 466412420       Tue, Sep 09, 2008, 21:45 I'd be against just keeping 1 QB. I'm all for minor tweaks but this league was designed to be QB heavy. Its better to adjust our strategies to the rules rather than adjust the rules to the normal strategy. 189 Promize       ID: 8857295       Tue, Sep 09, 2008, 22:04 Yah, I think that would be unfair considering some teams have done their keepers based on QB's... BTW tweaking and balancing is dangerous in a keeper league... You can ask Sarge about that... People have already started building teams, and to change rules now wouldn't exactly be fair. Plenty of QBs were available, and their backups before the season started, planning ahead should of been in the back of your minds with a two QB league. 190 GolfFreak       ID: 35832420       Tue, Sep 09, 2008, 22:19 Well then no WR points changes either! 191 Promize       ID: 8857295       Tue, Sep 09, 2008, 22:43 Yah, I don't blame yah, just think it really needs to be discussed... Actually Sarge is very good at figuring out balancing scoring... 192 russelldl       Sustainer       ID: 466412420       Wed, Sep 10, 2008, 01:00 just a correction on posts 172 and 177. RIFC does the waivers the opposite of what I described. Worst to first ranking, reset each of the first 6 weeks, then it stops resetting and you go to the back of the line when you make a claim. I should have known that considering I'm commissioner of one of the leagues. Anyway, not sure how that affects my argument but there it is. 193 dwfffan       ID: 4068192       Wed, Sep 10, 2008, 05:35 I played all last year juggling 4th and 5th rate QB's and no rules were changed then, I say keep as is. I don't think WR values should change either, hell you can start at least 3 of them every week. 194 barilko6       ID: 52612922       Wed, Sep 10, 2008, 09:57 Yes, I wouldn't want to change anything with the QBs. Reminder that waiver claims are due before noon today. 195 barilko6       ID: 23831011       Wed, Sep 10, 2008, 12:19 Waivers Processed: Chuck: Add Matt Cassel Drop Jabar Gaffney Doug: Add Kerry Collins Drop Derek Hagan Wiggs: Add Damon Huard Drop Ben Watson Barilko6: Add Anthony Fasano Drop Mercedes Lewis Sarge: Add Michael Jenkins Drop Seattle Def Chuck: Add Carolina Def Drop Washington Def Barilko6: Add Greg Lewis Drop Ernest Wilford Chuck: Add Sammy Morris Drop Brandon Jackson I sent my claims to Great One prior to receiving any claims from other managers. If anyone notices anything wrong with the listing above, contact me ASAP. Otherwise I will open all players at 1:00 PM EST 196 russelldl       Sustainer       ID: 466412420       Wed, Sep 10, 2008, 12:23 Mine weren't processed. I'm resending the email I sent you last night. 197 barilko6       ID: 4681210       Wed, Sep 10, 2008, 12:27 Russell...I totally missed yours. Added claim: Russell: Add Hank Baskett, Drop Nate Burleson 198 russelldl       Sustainer       ID: 466412420       Wed, Sep 10, 2008, 12:29 No prob. It didnt have any effect on anything. Damn you QB vultures! Ok, I STILL need a QB. I was holding off until after waivers but that didnt help. All offers will be considered. 199 barilko6       ID: 4681210       Wed, Sep 10, 2008, 12:32 You should have accepted my offer to you Russell!!! 200 JTSERB       Donor       ID: 481020120       Wed, Sep 10, 2008, 12:48 Hey B6, I sent in my waiver claims last night through Yahoo. I wanted to add Cassell and Kerry Collins. I had waiver position #2. I am not sure if Chuck had #1 waiver for this week, but at the least I should have got Collins. Can you check if you got the mail please? 201 barilko6       ID: 4681210       Wed, Sep 10, 2008, 12:58 JTSerb.. The waiver priority resets each week, from last place team to first place team. This is how it worked out last year as well. Sorry, I thought I had sent you an email following up on your claims from last week explaining that. 202 wiggs       Sustainer       ID: 04991311       Wed, Sep 10, 2008, 12:59 JT ur priority is 6th. 203 barilko6       ID: 4681210       Wed, Sep 10, 2008, 13:00 Just checking things... I did send you an email last week! A reminder to all: Every week whoever is in last place gets first waiver priority and then it goes up the rankings. 204 Frick       ID: 23117516       Wed, Sep 10, 2008, 13:08 Just to be clear, I would have been 8th on the priority list after the first week? 205 JTSERB       Donor       ID: 481020120       Wed, Sep 10, 2008, 13:09 Just A little confused B6 because it said I was wavier #2 and I still am as per yahoo. Did you get my email I at least want to confirm it sends through yahoo. 206 JTSERB       Donor       ID: 481020120       Wed, Sep 10, 2008, 13:10 Also if you could change the waiver position on Tuesdays based on standings, I know yahoo allows that. It would make things a little easier 207 barilko6       ID: 15881013       Wed, Sep 10, 2008, 14:11 Waivers are from last place to first place. Start at the bottom and work your way up, that will show you your waiver standings. I could change the waiver positions on Tuesday, but that seems like creating work that isn't all that necessary, as you can just look at the last place and go up from there. I did get your claims JT, they made it through. 208 barilko6       ID: 15881013       Wed, Sep 10, 2008, 14:13 After week 1 Frick, you are 9th. 209 barilko6       ID: 52612922       Sun, Sep 14, 2008, 12:22 Just a reminder that the waiver wire is locked as of 13:00 EST today. 210 Electroman       ID: 418231318       Sun, Sep 14, 2008, 18:54 I wasn't too sure about keeping Aaron Rodgers, but after 2 weeks, I am liking the decision. 211 barilko6       ID: 458511418       Sun, Sep 14, 2008, 19:51 I wasn't too sure about keeping Ryan Grant, but after two weeks....um...no comment. 212 Electroman       ID: 418231318       Sun, Sep 14, 2008, 21:14 Is it just me, or was the officiating terrible today? The Chargers should have won the game, but were denied because of an early whistle. On the third down play before the game winning field goal for Indy, there was an obvious false start, yet they did not call it. Those are the two that stand out, and really affected the outcome of the game. That should never happen. 213 barilko6       ID: 52612922       Mon, Sep 15, 2008, 11:45 Here's hoping that Brian Westbrook stubs his toe pre-game and sits this one out tonight... 214 wiggs       Sustainer       ID: 04991311       Mon, Sep 15, 2008, 11:48 I was better off without a qb- empty space is 0 points- Huard is negative. 215 barilko6       ID: 52612922       Mon, Sep 15, 2008, 11:49 lol...too funny 216 barilko6       ID: 4681210       Tue, Sep 16, 2008, 14:37 Just a reminder that waiver claims are due tomorrow by noon. Waiver Priority is from Last Place team to First place team. Mine have once again already been emailed out. I have not yet received any other claims. 217 barilko6       ID: 4681210       Wed, Sep 17, 2008, 10:07 I will open the waivers at 3:00 PM EST today. 218 GolfFreak       ID: 268521710       Wed, Sep 17, 2008, 11:56 Can I place bids on 4 players? So if I dont win the 1st one bids goes to the 2nd and so on ? 219 barilko6       ID: 4681210       Wed, Sep 17, 2008, 12:46 Yes...always. You can bid on 18 players and only list one player to drop 220 barilko6       ID: 4681210       Wed, Sep 17, 2008, 12:51 Golf...just checking your claim now. You are trying to drop someone you don't have and claim someone who is already on a team. Send me a quick email so I can process everyone's claims. 221 GolfFreak       ID: 268521710       Wed, Sep 17, 2008, 13:03 SoRrY wrong league. ;P 222 GolfFreak       ID: 268521710       Wed, Sep 17, 2008, 13:05 Sent the right one now! 223 barilko6       ID: 4681210       Wed, Sep 17, 2008, 13:10 Alright... Since you are claiming someone that nobody else put a claim in on, I can't see any harm in processing it! Here are this week's claims: Chuck Adds Amani Toomer, Drops Kevin Boss Golffreak adds Gus Frerotte, drops Rudi Johnson Barilko6 adds Ahmad Bradshaw, drops Kevin Curtis JTSerb adds John Carlson, drops Greg Olsen I will make these changes and the waivers will unlock at 3:00 pm EST. 224 barilko6       ID: 4681210       Wed, Sep 17, 2008, 13:12 A note to the above posting. Had Golf tried to claim anyone that was in someone else's claiming queue, I would not have processed it for his team. Just for future claiming references. Seeing as how nobody else had Gus, the claim was made. 225 GolfFreak       ID: 268521710       Wed, Sep 17, 2008, 13:22 Thanks... 226 barilko6       ID: 4681210       Wed, Sep 17, 2008, 13:33 No worries...I just included that in case anyone questioned that move. 227 JTSERB       Donor       ID: 481020120       Fri, Sep 19, 2008, 07:45 Anyone in need of a WR im your man. Come talk to me. 228 wiggs       Sustainer       ID: 04991311       Sun, Sep 21, 2008, 22:41 negative out of my qb again, unreal 229 Frick       ID: 23117516       Tue, Sep 23, 2008, 08:45 Dwfffan is winning the bad match-up award this season. Highest number of points scored and a 1-2 record. I'm normally on the losing side of the top 2 scoring teams facing each other so I feel you pain. I know that I don't want to face your team again if I make it to the play-offs, hopefully you catch a few breaks the rest of the season. 230 sarge33rd       ID: 99331714       Tue, Sep 23, 2008, 14:22 OK, something has gone HORRIBLY wrong here. Hell has frozen over, or I dont know what...but I'm 3-0!!!! roflmao 231 barilko6       ID: 4681210       Tue, Sep 23, 2008, 14:31 Yeah, its interesting to see how teams evolve each year. I went from last to first, and now I am thinking this year will turn things right back over again. 232 sarge33rd       ID: 99331714       Tue, Sep 23, 2008, 14:40 just emailed you (via the yahoo league home page), my waiver picks for this week. 233 barilko6       ID: 4681210       Tue, Sep 23, 2008, 14:45 Yep...got it. Yours is the first one I have got. And like the other weeks, I sent mine away yesterday. 234 GolfFreak       ID: 68532111       Tue, Sep 23, 2008, 23:38 Sent 1 to AOL thanks 235 russelldl       Sustainer       ID: 466412420       Wed, Sep 24, 2008, 11:19 sent mine to AOL also. 236 barilko6       ID: 388592410       Wed, Sep 24, 2008, 12:04 Lots of claims this week: 1. Wiggs claims Trent Green drops Donte Stallworth 2. Dwfffan claims Buckhalter, drops D. Jarrett 3. Barilko claims Byron Leftwich, drops Gage 4. BaltimoreDopesmokers claims Rudi Johnson, drops Ledell Betts 5. Sarge claims Fred Jackson, drops Hixon 6. Dwfffan claims Brandon Lloyd, drops Utrect 7. BaltimoreDopesmokers claims Ike Hilliard, drops Alge Crumpler 8. Baltimore Dopesmokers claims Roscoe Parrish, drops Rex Grossman. If any of this looks wrong, send me an email ASAP, otherwise waivers will open at 1:00 EST today. 237 Electroman       ID: 418231318       Wed, Sep 24, 2008, 15:09 Bye weeks are starting, that is probably why there was more claims. I have a question about the claims order. I cna't remember if I saw it, but when does it reorder. Is it last to first every week? It would also be nice to now the order, I don't think that the yahoo order is right. 238 barilko6       ID: 388592410       Wed, Sep 24, 2008, 15:11 It is first to last every week. Almost everyone had a claim in on Trent Green. How many leagues can say that?!? 239 Electroman       ID: 418231318       Wed, Sep 24, 2008, 20:46 You must mean last to first, because if it was first to last, I should have had my guy. 240 barilko6       ID: 388592410       Wed, Sep 24, 2008, 21:00 Right...last to first. My bad 241 barilko6       ID: 48563014       Wed, Oct 01, 2008, 12:01 Waiver Claims: 1. Chuck claims Lance Moore, drops Ryan Fitzpatrick 2. GolfFreak claims Justin Gage, drops Donald Lee 3. Doug claims Sammy Morris, drops Cincy Def. 4. JTSerb claims Steve Breaston drops David Patton 5. Russell claims Cedric Benson, drops Denver Def. 6. Sarge claims Josh Scobee, drops Josh Brown If you think anything looks incorrect, send me an email, otherwise all players will be open at 1:00 pm EST. 242 Electroman       ID: 418231318       Wed, Oct 01, 2008, 20:19 Why are free agents locked???? 243 barilko6       ID: 58133021       Wed, Oct 01, 2008, 23:06 Sorry...I forgot to unlock them. They are open now 244 barilko6       ID: 58133021       Mon, Oct 06, 2008, 10:44 I will not be sending out my own personal waiver claims until about 1:00 pm on Tuesday, so if that matters to you, keep it in mind! 245 barilko6       ID: 48563014       Wed, Oct 08, 2008, 12:10 I have all the claims in, just waiting on some needed info for one of the claims. If I don't hear back by 12:30, I will just process the ones I have. (GolfFreak, check your email ASAP) 246 barilko6       ID: 48563014       Wed, Oct 08, 2008, 12:57 Alright, I didn't hear back from GolfFreak, changes were made. This week everyone got the player they put a claim in for!!! (The guy Golf wanted wasn't claimed anyways, so hopefully he can still snag him up.) All players will be unlocked at 3:00 PM EST today. 247 Electroman       ID: 418231318       Sun, Oct 12, 2008, 16:43 Pissed off at myself, in two leagues I put Kevin Curtis in, and he is not starting. But I forgot to check, was busy watching a game. 248 barilko6       ID: 23911511       Wed, Oct 15, 2008, 12:14 Roster claims entered. Too many to list here thanks to RusselDl dropping half of his team. Check them on the site, and let me know if I missed anything. Will open up all players at 2:00 pm 249 sarge33rd       ID: 99331714       Wed, Oct 15, 2008, 12:53 this weeks waiver request sent thru Yahoo. :) 250 barilko6       ID: 48563014       Wed, Oct 15, 2008, 12:59 Sarge, your claims came in at 12:52, so it wasn't processed. I gave a warning about making waiver claims through Yahoo in posts 155 and 171. All players will be open as free agenst at 2:00. 251 sarge33rd       ID: 99331714       Wed, Oct 15, 2008, 13:07 np..should be OK with it all the same 252 barilko6       ID: 48563014       Wed, Oct 15, 2008, 13:22 Sounds good Sarge. Someone just emailed me and told me I should give you a $5 penalty, whatever that means. 253 sarge33rd       ID: 99331714       Wed, Oct 15, 2008, 14:39 roflmao...thats from the Auction League. Golffreak I'd wager. 254 barilko6       ID: 48563014       Wed, Oct 22, 2008, 13:17 Sorry guys, was away from my computer, but will process claims now. Free agents will be available at 3:00 EST. 255 Electroman       ID: 399402216       Wed, Oct 22, 2008, 18:37 Quite a competitive league this year. Over half the league is over .500. 256 barilko6       ID: 58133021       Thu, Oct 23, 2008, 10:54 Yeah, with only 4 getting in, this thing is going to be close! 257 wiggs       Sustainer       ID: 04991311       Thu, Oct 23, 2008, 11:27 thats because my team is so bad :) 258 barilko6       ID: 58133021       Thu, Oct 23, 2008, 11:30 Start watching the college games Wiggs!!! Prep for that first overall pick! 259 wiggs       Sustainer       ID: 04991311       Thu, Oct 23, 2008, 11:33 I am ready for the pick, with the 1st overall selection in the 2009 draft Wiggs will pick a QB :) 260 barilko6       ID: 58133021       Sat, Oct 25, 2008, 09:04 Looking at this weekend's schedule, after this week its possible that 10 out of 12 teams are at .500 or better. That is NFL-like parity!!! 261 Electroman       ID: 47928246       Sat, Oct 25, 2008, 17:57 Just wondering, is Frick still active? Seems that his team is missing starters the last couple of weeks. 262 sarge33rd       ID: 76442923       Sat, Oct 25, 2008, 22:56 QBs!!! We need more QBs!!!!! 263 Electroman       ID: 47928246       Sun, Oct 26, 2008, 13:48 Funny, I have 4 on my roster. Had 3 at the beggining of the week, 2 were on a bye, and I picked one up. There are QB's there, just have to want to take a risk on a guy like Thigpen, and he is off to a good start today. 264 barilko6       ID: 15912277       Mon, Oct 27, 2008, 09:56 Yeah, I had 5 on my roster, but since dropped Seneca Wallace who was nabbed real quick. Guess I dropped the wrong one...lol Sent an email to Frick to see what is up. 2 weeks in a row he had bye week starters with options on the bench. We shall see if he is still around. 265 barilko6       ID: 48563014       Wed, Oct 29, 2008, 12:15 Waivers processed... Promize, JTSerb and Barilko all get players added. Free agents will open at 2:00 pm EST. 267 Electroman       ID: 47928246       Tue, Nov 04, 2008, 06:43 I am guessing that had Orton finished the game, I would have had enough points to win. Disappointing loss this week. Wiggs is on a run, 2 in a row. 268 barilko6       ID: 48563014       Tue, Nov 04, 2008, 09:31 Some rule change thoughts. Discuss: 1. QB Waiver Claim Priority With this being a 2 QB league, we obviously realize the importance of our QB's. Thought: If one of your QB's goes down with an injury during a game, and his immediate backup is on the waiver wire, your waiver claim goes to the top of the list at the next claiming process. If his backup is already on another manager's roster, you do not get him. 2. Toilet Bowl Playoff: With Wiggs' team making a great push the past two weeks, it stands to be noted that he could have just laid down and taken a guaranteed Number 1 pick. KUDOS WIGGS! What if we were to create a 4 way toilet bowl playoffs, with the winner of that playoffs getting the number 1 overall pick the next year. A lot of leagues are doing this, and this would create interest and involvement among the bottom teams, REWARDING the bottom team who goes all out and tries to claim that pick. The last place team, should they not be the winner, would still get a nice consolation of the number 2 overall pick. After the winner of the playoffs, the draft order would then be reverse order of finish. Thoughts on these two items? Would love to get some discussion going. 269 sarge33rd       ID: 99331714       Tue, Nov 04, 2008, 10:12 I like both ideas. :) 270 barilko6       ID: 48563014       Tue, Nov 04, 2008, 12:09 Also, following our conversation about adding more value to WR's, what about the thought of changing their points from 20 Receiving Yds/1 point to 15 Recieving Yds/1 point. I don't see adding PPR as a viable option, as that will affect some of the RB's in our league more than the receivers. With this change a WR who goes: 105 yds and 1 Touchdown will change from 12 to 14 points. 271 sarge33rd       ID: 99331714       Tue, Nov 04, 2008, 12:20 I'd like to see PPR. A guy who catches 5 passes for 72 yards, vs 1 for 72 yards...the first is getting you 1st downs on 3rd down more than liekly and THAT has clear value to a team. Maybe something like .5 PPR. 272 barilko6       ID: 48563014       Tue, Nov 04, 2008, 12:34 I thought about that, but that directly affects our RBs as well, and maybe even moreso than the WRs. I just traded away Reggie Bush last year, and would never have done that knowing this rule was on the horizon. I want something that affects the WR's more than it does the RBs. 273 Electroman       ID: 47928246       Tue, Nov 04, 2008, 12:34 What if the backup is Brad Johnson or Brooks Bollinger?:) Idea #2 is great. The first one, I am not too sure. I will have to think about it. I am in favor of the WR thing also, but I would love to see it .10 points per yard, making it basically 1 point per 10 yards. Or we keep put it at what you said, plus something for PPR. 274 Frick       ID: 441042411       Tue, Nov 04, 2008, 12:42 I would rather see receiving be 1 pt for 10 yards than adding PPR, but I'm open to debate. As for the QB, I have mixed feelings. I think it would really complicate the drafting of QBs. We already value them highly, which is a nice change from all of normal 2RB then WR drafts. But I drafted Kevin Kolb based on the fact that Donovan McNabb hasn't played a full season in 5 years. I've been reluctant to drop Kolb due to the fact I think he could be a keeper next year. I did the same with Brady Quinn last year. Sarge do you remember being in a league with someone who had picked up all of the waiver wire QBs and trying to trade scrubs for first round RBs? 275 sarge33rd       ID: 99331714       Tue, Nov 04, 2008, 12:57 lol yes I do. And I was royally PO'd too. IIRC, I was contending for a playoff spot, his team was in the basement, and my QB went down. Suddenly, the only QBs out there, were holding clipboards and had NO shot at play time. 276 Frick       ID: 54105412       Tue, Nov 04, 2008, 13:05 I believed up to "I was contending for a playoff spot" ;) Hmm, at least Tavaris Jackson isn't starting. Otherwise I would have the wonderful choice of Tavaris, Jamarcus Russel or Brady Quinn trifecta. 277 barilko6       ID: 48563014       Tue, Nov 04, 2008, 13:07 Frick, my idea for the QB claims, is that you can still hold onto prospective starters, and so long as they are on your roster, you can never lose them. If McNabb goes down, then his owner gets first priority at Kolb IF he is on waivers. If you own him, then the McNabb owner is out of luck. I would definitely be more open to increasing the points per yard than I would be adding a PPR. Just finding the right PPY would be key. 278 sarge33rd       ID: 99331714       Tue, Nov 04, 2008, 13:08 c;mon now..I am often contending for a playoff spot...until a specific key injury occurs, (which seems to happen on an annual basis virtually w/o exception, in any and all leagues I'm in......) and my team goes from 70-80% W-L to 50-50 overnight. 279 Electroman       ID: 47928246       Tue, Nov 04, 2008, 17:02 Which email is good for the waiver claims? 281 barilko6       ID: 48563014       Tue, Nov 04, 2008, 17:29 Here 282 russelldl       ID: 1890298       Tue, Nov 04, 2008, 17:36 I say leave the rules as they are. Change the way you draft next season. 283 barilko6       ID: 48563014       Wed, Nov 05, 2008, 12:24 Claims processed. I am surprised there weren't more teams putting in a claim on the QB's out there. Waivers open at 3:00 pm Russell...of the rules above, the Toilet Bowl and I believe the QB one doesn't really affect how a team would draft, so I don't see a problem with rule changes with those. The WR one definitely would have merti to be looked at as putting off until after next season, as people drafted with current rules and point systems in mind. 284 russelldl       ID: 1890298       Sat, Nov 08, 2008, 02:15 Hey everyone, My internet access for the next week may be shaky because I'm moving tomorrow. I will be sure to check my email often so if you need me, contact me there. 285 JTSERB       Donor       ID: 481020120       Mon, Nov 10, 2008, 13:48 I personally like the challenge of the 2 QB league. It makes it different. Like B6 said its not just RB RB RB RB RB RB. WR must be fixed. They are almost worthless in this league. I would like to see 10 yards = 1 point JT 286 Golffreak@library       ID: 111091019       Mon, Nov 10, 2008, 20:17 I also love the two QB league. But would like to see WRs fixed as well. And then maybe in the next year or two.... would like to see where we can only keep 1 QB, 2,RB, 2,WR, 2 TE, etc.... Just a thought 287 Electroman       ID: 47928246       Mon, Nov 10, 2008, 20:45 Would it be fair to add a .5 point per year per receiving yard in the next two years. Also, what about the rushing yards, it is 20 yards per point also. Just putting it out there. 288 Frick       ID: 3410551012       Tue, Nov 11, 2008, 09:17 .5? So 1 point every 2 yards for receiving? Wouldn't that make receivers the gods of the league? Or do you mean an extra .5 every 10 or 20 yards? I like the restrictions on keepers, you have some flexibility and hard choices to make. Do you keep a mediocre QB or a second stud WR. 289 Electroman       ID: 47928246       Tue, Nov 11, 2008, 11:47 Sorry, I meant the .5 per 10 yards, my bad. Basically, right now it is 1 point per 20 yards. People seem to want 1 point per 10. If we go to 1 point per 15 next year, then 1 point per 10 the year after. Ease it in to the league. Just an idea. 290 barilko6       ID: 48563014       Tue, Nov 11, 2008, 11:51 I would think we could go to 1 point for 15 yards, pending a vote. Because its a pretty big change based on the way we drafted, I would want a 75%+ approval. Otherwise I would suggest at looking to change it for the following season. So these will be voted on in the offseason: 1. Toilet Bowl Lottery (50% majority?) 2. Increasing Receiving Yardage (75% majority?) 3. Automatic First Dibs on the backup to your QB, should your QB get injured, and should the backup be on waivers. (50% majority?) Anything else we want to discuss? 291 Electroman       ID: 47928246       Tue, Nov 11, 2008, 11:54 What about the running backs? Would we up their yardage points to? Or is that too much change? 292 JTSERB       Donor       ID: 481020120       Tue, Nov 11, 2008, 15:36 I like the 1st 2 b6, but the 3rd one seems like to much work, and takes out the advantage for people that plan better. 293 JTSERB       Donor       ID: 481020120       Tue, Nov 11, 2008, 15:36 re 291: I am for going the standard 10 yards rec/rush = 1 point 294 sarge33rd       ID: 99331714       Tue, Nov 11, 2008, 15:56 takes the advantage away from people who plan better???? What does planning, have to do with picking up the 2nd string QB to a team you dont have the starter from, when the starter goes down? It isnt planning that puts that 2nd stringer on a team other than the onw holding the starter, its luck of the draw in who gets to go first in reverse order of sdtandings for FA OR, who gets to their computer the quickest once FA is opened up. Sorry, but I dont consider planning on being in last place as necessarily deserving of recognition for planning success, nor do I count not being at work when FA opens and thus having first access, as 'planning'. In a league starting 2 QBs, with 12 teams, that makes 24 of the 32 starters taken. That means at the most, 8 teams could have 3 starting QBs on their rosters. (At least 4 of which probably arent much worth having except as an injury or bye replacement.) Injuries to QBs are devastating in a 2 QB league. If you have the starter for an NFL team, his backup is available and the starter goes down...you should most certainly have 'right of refusal' as for putting that backup on your team. You may not want him, lol...re B Johnson in Dallas this season for ex 295 barilko6       ID: 48106118       Tue, Nov 11, 2008, 16:32 We can also talk about adding to the value of RBs if needed. Re: 292: You can still have someone else's backup QB on your roster to block another manager from getting his backup, so I think it would actually add to the strengths of those that would plan better, no? Or at least create a different thought process when adding a backup QB and just stashing him on your roster to block another manager. 296 sarge33rd       ID: 76442923       Tue, Nov 11, 2008, 21:31 right, but if you drafted that backup...then by definition he isnt available for the owner of his starter to take. Right? To be available, means he isnt on a team, wouldnt it? 297 barilko6       ID: 4410491119       Tue, Nov 11, 2008, 21:37 right...at no time would you be allowed take a player that is already on someone else's roster, even if he is the backup to your injured QB. 298 sarge33rd       ID: 76442923       Wed, Nov 12, 2008, 00:18 exactly....so how does 'planning' fit into it? lol I doubt anyone, in any league who took Cassel preseason, did so with any intent of playing him. If you take so-n-so's backup in the preseason draft, unless so-n-so is shakey health/history wise to begin with, it isnt 'planning' that he ends up starting. Its dumb luck that his starter went down. How many drafted Cassel or Thigpen, or Orton or Collins or Hill or... 299 sarge33rd       ID: 76442923       Wed, Nov 12, 2008, 00:19 as a post script...I even said pre-draft to you Barilko...Warner may be a better keeper than Leinart. Should have listened to my own damn self. :( 300 Electroman       ID: 47928246       Wed, Nov 12, 2008, 06:43 I drafted Orton. 301 Frick       ID: 3410551012       Wed, Nov 12, 2008, 09:39 I drafted Quinn and Kevin Kolb, granted I own McNabb so I was handcuffing myself. But, I drafted Kolb long before I really wanted to, looking at McNabb's history of injuries it was a pick I needed to make. I wouldn't vote for the 2nd-string QB rule, I might support an injury priority rule, but only if it applies to all positions. 302 barilko6       ID: 48563014       Wed, Nov 12, 2008, 10:30 Alright, well since there seems to be some strong opinions on the QB rule, I am going to say we need 75% to pass this rule. 303 barilko6       ID: 48563014       Wed, Nov 12, 2008, 12:05 Waiver claims processed. (Only I made any claims!) Just a reminder that the trade deadline is coming up very soon. Free agents will open at 3:00 pm EST. 304 Electroman       ID: 47928246       Wed, Nov 12, 2008, 12:23 When are we going to vote, after the season, before the draft??? BTW, I am looking to make a move at RB. Addai is on the block, and so would Orton, Roy Williams. I have an offer out there, but there has been no feedback, so, I throw it out to the league. 305 barilko6       ID: 48563014       Wed, Nov 12, 2008, 12:45 Yeah, we will vote in the offseason 306 Graham Sims       ID: 571021219       Wed, Nov 12, 2008, 20:02 ji2mn6hcrfop0zqq 307 Bruce Hays       ID: 910311222       Wed, Nov 12, 2008, 23:31 939hvglig23o84d8 308 Marilyn Barron       ID: 3910351222       Wed, Nov 12, 2008, 23:35 402x8bvab1eje9wf 309 Rhoda Sampson       ID: 31035132       Thu, Nov 13, 2008, 03:35 omc3h6jjmdujk9oa 310 Donkey Hunter       Leader       ID: 916288962       Thu, Nov 13, 2008, 08:59 Are these coke reward codes? 311 barilko6       ID: 58133021       Thu, Nov 13, 2008, 09:00 Those are my intergalaxian fans cheering me on in their native languages. 312 barilko6       ID: 48563014       Fri, Nov 14, 2008, 08:56 Just a reminder... All NY Jets and New England players are locked until the waiver claims, and may not be added to your team rosters. 313 JTSERB       Donor       ID: 481020120       Sat, Nov 15, 2008, 01:01 RE 294 Plan was a bad choice of words. What I meant is in this league you can either carry a flier WR or RB that you think might play in the future weeks or keep backups of other QB's. Even that doesn't sound good lol. I don't know I just like starting 2 QB's. It just makes it such a tougher and more diverse league. 314 barilko6       ID: 32215117       Sat, Nov 15, 2008, 08:31 Hey, nobody is talking about changing away from 2 QBs at all... I would never support that 315 Doug       ID: 561026194       Wed, Nov 19, 2008, 05:39 I think this whole "you automatically get the backup, but only if someone else doesn't already have him" idea is horsesh!@#. Either (a) draft "team QB" rather than players, or (b) determine whether it's worth the risk to carry the backup QB on your squad and roll those dice. If people feel our bench is too short to carry a backup QB, then so be it. But this notion of "free dibs" on a backup makes no sense, especially when coupled with the only-if-someone-else-doesn't-have-him randomness. 316 russelldl       ID: 4110471823       Wed, Nov 19, 2008, 10:14 I agree with Doug. 317 barilko6       ID: 48563014       Wed, Nov 19, 2008, 12:01 Wow...tell us what you really think Doug! :) No waiver claims made, free agents will open at 3:00 EST. 318 JTSERB       Donor       ID: 481020120       Wed, Nov 19, 2008, 23:55 RE: Post 315 Thank you, Someone posted the words I was trying to say :) I feel exactly the same. 319 dwfffan       ID: 591052249       Wed, Nov 26, 2008, 09:27 Commish, waiver claim sent via e-mail. 320 barilko6       ID: 48563014       Wed, Nov 26, 2008, 12:18 Changes made. I messed up with my claims. I wanted Derek Anderson, but thought he would still be available so I made Leon Washington my first claim, Pierre Thomas my second, and DA my third. Bad move me. 321 barilko6       ID: 48563014       Wed, Nov 26, 2008, 12:45 Oh...and players will be unlocked at 3:00 pm 322 barilko6       ID: 48563014       Tue, Dec 02, 2008, 18:21 Wow...4 teams battling it out for the last two playoffs spots. I have to say, with Dwffan and Frick playing each other, I really like my chances of getting one of those spots. If I win and Dwwffan wins, I have to score 6 more points than Frick to move into the playoffs. If I win and Frick wins, then I am in no matter how many points I get. If I lose, I am out. I also need to not have Chuck outscore me by more than 30, which I think is (hopefully) safe. 323 barilko6       ID: 48563014       Tue, Dec 02, 2008, 18:22 Guys...I can't remember. What do we do about Free Agents during the playoffs? Some leagues are totally open. Some leagues are totally closed. Some leagues allow replacement TEs and Ks, but only in the event of injury. I can't remember what our past precedence has been. 324 Electroman       ID: 47928246       Tue, Dec 02, 2008, 21:17 Post #142 from last years thread: Just a reminder that just before Sundays game, all rosters will be locked from pickups for the playoffs...plan accordingly!!! So this would be the last week we can pick up players. 325 barilko6       ID: 48563014       Wed, Dec 03, 2008, 11:51 Fair enough. I would assume that would mean kickers and TE's and all the rest are frozen during the playoffs as well? 326 barilko6       ID: 48563014       Wed, Dec 03, 2008, 12:32 JT Serb has the only claim for this week. Free Agents will be open at 3:00 EST. 327 barilko6       ID: 58133021       Mon, Dec 08, 2008, 13:45 Looks like things are set: 1 Electro's Eagles vs. 4. Barilko's CFL Super Argos 2. JT Serb's Chicago Serbs vs. 3. Dwfffan Good Luck to all! 328 wiggs       Sustainer       ID: 04991311       Mon, Dec 08, 2008, 13:47 Not only did my team not give up, we made quite a run at the end. Not enough to make the playoffs, but enough to be respectable. Unfortunately now I do not have the 1st pick. 329 Electroman       ID: 47928246       Mon, Dec 08, 2008, 17:34 Hey Barilko, if I assume right, this will be another in a long line of Montreal/Toronto rivalry games:) 330 barilko6       ID: 48563014       Tue, Dec 09, 2008, 10:00 Yeah! Isn't this where we have to make some sort of territorial food wager here? Your poutine and smoked meat sandwich against my Thai Food and some beverages from the Mill St. Brewery! Good luck though man, I hope that you have a great week and manage to get one less point than me. 331 barilko6       ID: 48563014       Tue, Dec 09, 2008, 10:12 Wow...just checked into the site, and I didn't see this coming, but JTSerbs out of nowhere, posted a 52 point night last night to steal first place from the hands of Electro!!! WOW! So...Electro plays Dwfffan and JTSerb unfortunately played himself into a matchup with the eventual champion, Barilko6! So its Pizza and Sausage against Poutine, Beer, and Beaver Tails! 332 barilko6       ID: 48563014       Tue, Dec 09, 2008, 10:19 Dang...I just looked at matchups, and Serb, you have much better opponent matchups this week than I do! My QBs have to face Tennessee and Baltimore?!?! And yours get Detroit and Atlanta? Ouch! 333 Frick       ID: 3410551012       Tue, Dec 09, 2008, 11:14 Congrats to the play-off teams, I thought I was going to make it, but came up short in a couple of ways. Just a note before next season, it looks like I might have a surplus of RBs. 334 Electroman       ID: 47928246       Tue, Dec 09, 2008, 17:02 I guess that we will have to wait for the finals for the food switch;) As for the food, one of the best poutines I have had is in Quebec City. After reading your post, I feel like a smoked meat. BTW, I never knew that Toronto was known for the Thai food? 335 barilko6       ID: 48563014       Tue, Dec 09, 2008, 17:17 haha...Toronto isn't really known for anything. (I realized this as I was trying to figure out what to bet!) Mill St. Brewery is a great little brewery here in Toronto, so that was in. And Toronto's large asian population has afforded us some very good Thai restaurants in the downtown core, so I included that! Its sad, every big city seems to have their thing: Chicago Pizza, Philly Cheesesteak, Montreal Smoked Meat, New York Apples...haha Toronto doesn't really have anything that I can think of... 336 JTSERB       Donor       ID: 481020120       Thu, Dec 11, 2008, 20:10 re: 332 Good Planning hopefully leads to success :) 337 barilko6       ID: 48563014       Fri, Dec 12, 2008, 10:09 haha...not that I want to start trash talking you JT, (actually I totally do) but the only guys you are starting this weekend that you drafted this year that has a good matchup is DeAngelo Williams. Now when you say good planning, do you mean you knew 2 or 3 years ago when you drafted guys like Peyton, Steve Smith, LenDale White and Marshawyn Lynch that they would have good matchups 2 or 3 years later in the first week of our playoffs? :) 338 barilko6       ID: 58133021       Sun, Dec 14, 2008, 23:26 Crap. I had Ryan Fitzpatrick in my starting lineup until about 12:45 today, at which point I chickened out and decided to go with Big Ben. That was costly. 339 Electroman       ID: 47928246       Mon, Dec 15, 2008, 07:29 Well, another RB blew a tire this week, and his replacement was on the other side, and put up good points. Addai not playing really hurt me this week. I need an amazing night from the Eagles D and Desean Jackson. 340 JTSERB       Donor       ID: 481020120       Mon, Dec 15, 2008, 13:53 re: 337 Message originally was supposed to read Bad planning hopefully leads to success. Bad as in your matchups :) I was very lucky to win this week. I almost didnt make it home in time from work to pull out Garcia. I literally made it it home at 1150 to put in Griese. Whew! 341 Electroman       ID: 47928246       Tue, Dec 16, 2008, 12:28 Well, the Philly D did its job, Jackson didn't. Dwfffan also has a chance to win the championship for the second time in three years. 342 barilko6       ID: 58133021       Mon, Dec 22, 2008, 08:38 I don't know if Dwfffan is waving the white flag just yet, but I think I might be willing to declare JTSerb as our 2008 Champion... 343 dwfffan       ID: 591052249       Mon, Dec 22, 2008, 10:28 Yes I am waiving the white flag, and Congrats to JTSERB. 344 Electroman       ID: 47928246       Mon, Dec 22, 2008, 11:00 Congrats to JTSERB. Quite a year. It was a good league this year, very tough. Not putting in a claim for Pierre Thomas really bit me in the butt at the end of the year. While we are still around, and have the year fresh in our minds, should we put in writing what changes could be made for next year? 345 JTSERB       Donor       ID: 481020120       Mon, Dec 22, 2008, 19:09 Thanks, my team really turned it around mid season and have been on fire ever since. I ended up winning 3 leagues this season. 2 of of them for a pretty good sum of money, yet I feel most satisfied with this one. I think its because the competition. I know we have to rename the league after a player not in the NFL, but if I could name it anyone I think it would have to be Deangelo Williams. He carried me to the championship no doubt. 346 Doug       ID: 491150242       Wed, Dec 24, 2008, 04:01 gratz JT... now let's do the same thing in GLB :) 347 Promize@Parents       ID: 5711432414       Wed, Dec 24, 2008, 15:50 Absolutely embarrassing horrible year... don't even want to talk about it lol :) See you all next year though. 348 barilko6       ID: 55527217       Sun, Jun 21, 2009, 08:28 Alright, we are coming back! Just putting this out there to get an idea of if we need to replace a manager. JTSerb, as last year's champion, will get to pick the former player that will be the namesake of this year's league. So far we have had: Mike Singletary (Barilko6) Pat Tillman (Dwfffan) Reggie White (Barilko6) So post here your intentions, and please note my new email address. 349 sarge33rd       ID: 37544219       Sun, Jun 21, 2009, 10:44 gonna have to pass unfortunately. RL getting in the way of things atm. 350 russelldl       ID: 1890298       Sat, Jun 27, 2009, 17:10 Im in again this year. 351 Electroman       ID: 565182111       Sat, Jun 27, 2009, 21:18 I am back too. 352 wiggs       Leader       ID: 04991311       Sat, Jun 27, 2009, 23:42 in 353 PromizeParents       ID: 46552288       Sun, Jun 28, 2009, 09:52 Yep, in. I'll let ChuckT know also, but I know he is probably 100% coming back. 354 barilko6       ID: 305542817       Sun, Jun 28, 2009, 18:54 Sarge...sorry to hear that you are stepping down. Best of luck in your other stuff and keep checking in to see if we need to fill a hole in the future. So 1 new manager for sure... 355 chuckt       ID: 175302818       Sun, Jun 28, 2009, 19:30 IN 356 Electroman       ID: 565182111       Sun, Jun 28, 2009, 20:57 I might know someone. 357 barilko6       ID: 156297       Mon, Jun 29, 2009, 08:06 I have one gurupie who has expressed interest as well. 358 joey       ID: 535472912       Mon, Jun 29, 2009, 13:47 i'm seious and interested .... i'm electroman's buddy. 359 sarge33rd       ID: 565142919       Mon, Jun 29, 2009, 20:19 thanks barilko....not stepping away cause I want to....but have to trim some obligations in order to be fair to all. 360 Doug       ID: 3630123       Thu, Jul 02, 2009, 00:30 In 361 barilko6       ID: 1165438       Fri, Jul 03, 2009, 09:59 Alright... We have: Barilko6 Russell Electroman Wiggs Promize Chuck Doug Out: Sarge MIA: JTSerb Dwfffan Frick Golffreak Also we need to vote on: A. Changing receiving yards from 1 point for every 20 Yds to 1 point for every 15 yards. B. Changing receiving yards from 1 point for every 20 Yds to 1 point for every 10 yards. C. Leaving it as is. (1 point for every 20 yards) 362 barilko6       ID: 1165438       Fri, Jul 03, 2009, 10:10 Also, I have: Ryan Grant Adrian Peterson Pierre Thomas Chris Johnson And I can only keep 2 of them. I am pretty set at my other keepers, however I would be willing to package 1 or 2 of those guys with Ben Roethlisberger or Matt Schaub to get an upgrade at QB. Or I would deal any of the RB for draft picks. 363 barilko6       ID: 1165438       Fri, Jul 03, 2009, 11:13 My email so that you guys can send me your many trade offers. 364 Doug       ID: 3630123       Fri, Jul 03, 2009, 13:01 Your way ahead of me right now, I don't even know who's on my team. :) Not quite yet in football mode. 365 Electroman       ID: 565182111       Fri, Jul 03, 2009, 15:01 Are we going to change some of the point for RB's as well??? Also, my buddy Joey who posted was wondering if he will get the spot? 366 dwfffan       ID: 56629319       Fri, Jul 03, 2009, 20:30 I am in. 367 russelldl       ID: 1890298       Fri, Jul 03, 2009, 21:58 Did I really end up in last place??? Here's the link from last year's league if anyone needs it: http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/archive/nfl/2008/211212 Also, I've got Kerry Collins if anyone wants to trade. I'll only take WRs or draft picks. 368 JTSERB       ID: 5864860       Mon, Jul 06, 2009, 01:49 I am in B6. I would like to name this years league. Walter Payton Invitational. 369 JTSERB       ID: 5864860       Mon, Jul 06, 2009, 01:51 My Vote 1. Receiving Yards: 1 Point for 10 Yards 370 wiggs       Leader       ID: 04991311       Mon, Jul 06, 2009, 12:38 I vote for 1 point per 10 yards as well- too many times a wr would go for like 100 yards and get 5 lousy points Also there is an option to have bonus points if you break a certain number- say 3 points extra if you get to 100 yards? 371 russelldl       ID: 1890298       Mon, Jul 06, 2009, 16:31 I vote for leaving it the same. 372 Frick       ID: 4945458       Tue, Jul 07, 2009, 09:16 I'm in. I vote for B. I would also be in favor of changing the RB scoring yards, the league is to TD heavy IMO. 373 Doug       ID: 3630123       Wed, Jul 08, 2009, 00:56 I vote for A... I feel B creates too big of a discrepancy between Rushing and Receiving yards (2:1 ratio). Obviously that vote would change if we're going to modify rushing yards as well, but then it should be a vote for combined options (rather than 2 separate votes), since the result of one would impact my vote on the other. I think the simplest thing to do is more-or-less leave things as is but make a bit of an adjustment for receiving yards (option A increases yardage points by 33% over the status quo). 374 Electroman       ID: 565182111       Wed, Jul 08, 2009, 12:32 I like A as well. But I would also like the RB's to follow suit. 375 barilko6       ID: 156297       Wed, Jul 08, 2009, 14:05 I like A, leaving RB yards as they are. WR's have been way undervalued for far too long in my eyes, and the small bump would be a move towards making them a little more value to the RBs. I don't think we need to add more to the RB yards, as it seems the RBs have been far outscoring our WR's. (Just my opinion though, and would be open for conversation) 376 Electroman       ID: 565182111       Thu, Jul 23, 2009, 15:13 When are we looking at drafting? Has anyone heard from Golffreak? 377 barilko6       ID: 86162410       Fri, Jul 24, 2009, 11:18 Yeah, no word from Golf. I will send him an email after my meeting. If there are no objections, we will go with Joey as our new manager. I think setting a draft date of mid August would be good. Last year we sailed through things. Electroman, send me an email, I would like to revist some of our trade talks. 378 russelldl       ID: 1890298       Fri, Jul 24, 2009, 16:02 I'm going to be out of town the weekend of Aug 21 but I should have access. If not I'll take the necessary precautions to make sure I don't slow things down. 379 Electroman       ID: 565182111       Fri, Jul 24, 2009, 16:24 I'll be on the road the 21 and 22 of August, but should have access in the evening. I'll be sure to set things up as well. Joey is going to be happy, he has been asking me about it for a couple of weeks. 380 Electroman       ID: 565182111       Fri, Jul 24, 2009, 21:28 For the Flacco owner. Quite the display of accuracy 381 joey       ID: 2762250       Sat, Jul 25, 2009, 01:02 i'm ready when you are! :) thx Electroman! 382 barilko6       ID: 31639288       Tue, Jul 28, 2009, 09:40 alright...work has ended for the summer, so I can devote more time for this league and get things running. Joey, here is your roster of players. You keep 5 players, but no more than 2 at any 1 position. This is a QB heavy scoring league, as passing TD's are worth 6, and we start 2 QBs each week, so most teams do hold onto 2 QBs. Dwayne Bowe (KC - WR) 0 0 0 0 0 1022 7 0 0 0 93.10 Jay Cutler (Chi - QB) 4526 25 18 200 2 0 0 0 2 2 226.52 Rashied Davis (Chi - WR) 0 0 0 14 0 445 2 0 0 0 40.95 Jake Delhomme (Car - QB) 3288 15 12 21 2 0 0 0 0 3 138.81 Fred Jackson (Buf - RB) 0 0 0 571 3 317 0 0 0 1 60.40 Steven Jackson (StL - RB) 0 0 0 1042 7 379 1 0 0 3 113.05 Julius Jones (Sea - RB) 0 0 0 698 2 66 0 0 0 2 46.20 Matt Leinart (Ari - QB) 264 1 1 5 0 0 0 0 0 1 7.53 Santana Moss (Was - WR) 0 0 0 27 0 1044 6 1 0 1 93.55 Jerious Norwood (Atl - RB) 0 0 0 489 4 338 2 0 0 1 75.35 Visanthe Shiancoe (Min - TE) 0 0 0 0 0 596 7 0 0 0 71.80 Jeremy Shockey (NO - TE) 0 0 0 0 0 483 0 0 0 2 20.15 Nate Washington (Ten - WR) 0 0 0 18 0 631 3 0 0 0 50.45 Brian Westbrook (Phi - RB) 0 0 0 936 9 402 5 0 0 1 148.90 Carnell Williams (TB - RB) 0 0 0 233 4 43 0 0 0 0 37.80 Reggie Williams (Jac - WR) 0 0 0 0 0 364 3 0 0 0 36.20 Fan Pts Phil Dawson (Cle - K) 0 10 12 5 3 18 119.00 Fan Pts Arizona (Ari - DEF) 420 31.0 0 13 17 5 2 123.00 Tampa Bay (TB - DEF) 305 29.0 0 22 8 5 2 145.00 383 barilko6       ID: 31639288       Tue, Jul 28, 2009, 09:44 Everyone should have received an invite email. If you didn't get yours, please send me an email. Voting so far for changes on Yardage: A. Changing receiving yards from 1 point for every 20 Yds to 1 point for every 15 yards. (3 in favor) B. Changing receiving yards from 1 point for every 20 Yds to 1 point for every 10 yards. (3 in favor) C. Leaving it as is. (1 point for every 20 yards) (1 in favor) 384 barilko6       ID: 31639288       Tue, Jul 28, 2009, 09:46 Also... I am looking to package Ryan Grant, Pierre Thomas and Big Ben Roethlisberger for an upgrade at QB. Grant started very slow last year, was hurt, and still put up 1200 yards. If you would prefer to take Grant and/or Thomas for just a slight pick upgrade, I would do that too. But if you have a QB and need another RB and don't want to lose out on a pick, I will send you Grant, Thomas, and Big Ben for your QB. 385 chuckt       ID: 175302818       Tue, Jul 28, 2009, 19:24 I vote for A. 386 joey       ID: 535472912       Thu, Jul 30, 2009, 13:28 do i post my keepers in here or in yahoo ? 387 Electroman       ID: 565182111       Thu, Jul 30, 2009, 16:07 Here. There will be a limit date that will be given. You can also make some trades of others to get draft picks, or players. 388 Promize       ID: 551462816       Fri, Jul 31, 2009, 20:14 A And can we do a new thread since we have a new league name please. 389 dwfffan       ID: 56629319       Fri, Jul 31, 2009, 20:29 I vote A also. 390 Doug       ID: 8744316       Mon, Aug 03, 2009, 18:08 On the block QBs - Jason Campbell and David Garrard WRs - Antonio Bryant, Marques Colston, Braylon Edwards, and Lee Evans Either looking for a RB, or else a QB upgrade. Willing to package multiple players (like a QB and a WR, or 2 of the WRs, etc.) if they can help your keeper list. 391 Barilko6       ID: 4273448       Tue, Aug 04, 2009, 09:34 I will start a new thread. Please use that thread from here on in. 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