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Subject: Big Brother 8
Posted by: Ref
- [24733521] Sun, Aug 05, 2007, 22:33
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| 60 | RecycledSpinalFluid
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Thu, Aug 23, 2007, 18:16
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Had a LOL moment with my wife (who like BB), while watching "Las Vegas". Jenn was on the show as a extra in a "by the pool" scene. My wife says "Hey, look, its the Nanny". I thought it was funny as hell, and chuckle every time they show Jenn on BB with "Nanny" as her job.
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| 61 | angryChair
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Fri, Aug 24, 2007, 00:05
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Jen is HOT!!
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| 62 | Species
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Fri, Aug 24, 2007, 00:24
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Jen just has a rockin' body. Nice to see a ho with some meat/tone to her as opposed to being a waif. Nice rack, great ass and legs. Yum.
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| 63 | blue hen
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Fri, Aug 24, 2007, 00:34
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She should have stood up to Dick. Should have said "Yeah I got rid of em, what are you going to do about it? Come on, hit me!"
Instead, she just reached, allowing him to burn her subtly. She really got under his skin today, and you saw how he reacted.
If I were Jessica, I'd put D&D up for sure.
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| 64 | Species
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ID: 07724916
Fri, Aug 24, 2007, 11:56
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This is the turning point of the show for Jessica and Eric. They can stick to their agreement with D&D and perhaps coast to the Final 4 (but be in it with 2 players who have proven superior in challenges, IMO) or they can look to whack them and make amends with Amber and Jameka (but risk those 2 cutting their throats by aligning with Zach later to get the numbers).
Tough call as to the best strategy.
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| 65 | blue hen
ID: 16322314
Fri, Aug 24, 2007, 12:42
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I think Zach would side with Jessica. Especially if she makes a deal with him this week. He is generally loyal, excluding the first deal with Kail.
In fact, there haven't been any serious negotiations lately, other than Daniele's with Amber. Amber is an idiot. Daniele asked for a dollar and Amber gave her 20.
Species is right - Jesseric has to get rid of a Donato this week. Dick almost won HOH this week, and I bet he'd have put up Eric and Jess. Why? Because Donatos do not keep their word. Ever.
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| 66 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Aug 30, 2007, 02:34
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The Donatos agreed on the show that they need to get rid of Jess. Jess was right that she probably needed to backdoor Dani. This stupid America's Player thing is really screwing this game up. I'm going to be pissed if Eric or Jess go home next week. Eric really needs to win HOH.
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| 67 | blue hen
ID: 16322314
Tue, Sep 04, 2007, 14:40
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I love Zach.
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| 68 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Tue, Sep 04, 2007, 18:49
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Zach is a loser. Dick and Dani are going to flip on Jess and vote her out now--you watch. Zach will encourage this (as he should) so then Eric can go after d/d and let him coast to the finals. Not bad for a floater. Of course he won't win against anyone.
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| 69 | blue hen
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ID: 710321114
Tue, Sep 04, 2007, 21:08
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Probably with that is that Eric won't win HOH. A Donato will.
Idiots. Twice they coulda gotten a Donato. I bet CBS is fixing this season.
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| 70 | tastethewaste
ID: 1688419
Wed, Sep 05, 2007, 21:23
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cbs fixes every season. Youd be a fool to think otherwise.
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| 71 | Peter N.
ID: 426242722
Fri, Sep 07, 2007, 04:59
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As much as I like Dick and Danielle, that was a bad episode to watch. Both Jess and Eric elminated. I wasn't sad to see Eric go, but it came after Jess. That sucked. How in the hell is dumbass Zach still there!?!? What an idiot. He doesn't deserve it. Watch him win the entire thing. That would then make this the worst season ever.
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| 72 | blue hen
ID: 16322314
Fri, Sep 07, 2007, 09:50
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Dick played this perfectly. He got to team up with his daughter, and he's in the final four with two of the worst players of everyone. Daniele should easily win HOH this week (bye bye Zach) and Dick the week after. Then, it's the two of them in the final 2, and Daniele wins.
Which is a shame because the one thing she did was make promises and break them. But she's no idiot. Just like in life, where everything's been handed to her on a platter, so it is here, and why shouldn't she take advantage of both?
The other saving grace is that Eric only had to be apart from Jessica for about 45 minutes, and now they get two weeks together in paradise.
I wonder if America will get to sway Eric's vote in the finals.
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| 73 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Sep 07, 2007, 10:00
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Since Jameka will honor her vote and that's exactly what the Donatos are taking advantage of, the ebst case scenario would be that Zach wins HOH and sends Dani home. In fact, I'm predicting that. While everyone else has been lazy and bad-mothing people, Zach has constantly worked on his endurance in the fitness room. Everyone else is worn down but he is turning it on. Anything with endurance is going to be Zach's comp. to lose. Dani needs to go home this week. I'm hoping then Jameka wins something to get to the finals as I can't stand anyone else left.
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| 74 | blue hen
ID: 16322314
Fri, Sep 07, 2007, 10:27
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True. Zach won the teacups and the ball fall this week.
He's still my favorite, but I don't think he'd beat Dick or Daniele in the finals.
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| 75 | Species
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ID: 07724916
Fri, Sep 07, 2007, 11:07
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Eric and Jess have nobody but themselves to blame. Jess could have nominated D&D or Eric could have backdoored Dani w/POV. Stupid stupid stupid! At the very least, if I was Eric, I would have given Dick a taste of his own medicine and cussed him out for turning on his promise.
Dick and Daniele have been THE best players though.....they have earned their spot through their gameplay and a lot of luck that Eric had to vote Dustin out via America's Player. Daniele in particular has manipulated well (using Zach like toilet paper when he was HOH), using her charms like most hot chicks. Damned women! ;-)
Zach I think gets an unfair edit. I don't think he's that stupid.....he just took D&D's deal because it was presented to him on a silver platter and it was his best chance to make it further. He successfully kept to the side of any fights despite not having a single ally in the house - that takes something, even if it's ONLY the smarts to shut up and stay out of the way. He has a real chance at the final 2 because D&D should still honor his good deeds by NOT sending him home next week, and then he can win the final HOH and send someone (Daniele if he had a brain) home.
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| 76 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Sep 07, 2007, 11:59
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W/o America's player, Dick and Danielle would not even be around to win things.
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| 77 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Sep 07, 2007, 17:40
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Really from now on, the only thing that matters is the POV winner. That person has all teh power to say who stays and who goes--save the HOH.
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| 78 | blue hen
ID: 16322314
Fri, Sep 07, 2007, 17:48
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Yeah, true. I agree - Zach isn't as stupid as they portray him. I think he's a decent shot to win. And really, the only way Dick OR Daniele can win is to both be in the final two. Zach and especially Jameka will have most of the jury votes.
Eric is an idiot. We saw it the whole time. He never stood up and said what he so easily could have. "We had a deal to go all the way. I kept you around twice against my better judgement. And your first chance to get rid of me, you jumped on it."
He always shut up when he should have talked, and talked too much when he didn't need to. Even on the way out he wouldn't stop talking. And he lost Amber's trust very quickly - that's not easy to do.
If it does come down to Dick and Daniele, which it very well might, my vote goes to Dick. Mostly because I want to see what happens when he beats Daniele.
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| 79 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Sep 07, 2007, 18:54
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Dani is an evil person. She should be called ED not her father. There is no way in HELL she would ever have given the veto to her father. In fact when she was up against him and won she used it on herself. I can't stand her whining and I don't think she is very smart at all. Without her father, she would have been gone a long itme ago. Every other player in BB history has had a time when their partner or alliance sold them out (with the exception of last year with Will and Boogie) and there is no way that Dick would ever do that to his daughter. he gives her unconditional love and she could care less about him except as a means to get herself paid. She also knows that if he wins, she's going to see a lot of that money. He was never a good father and he is trying to make up for that. It's truly tragic.
If any of us were in that house, there would be flaws tht would be magnified. Something we do would just irriatate the crap out of a some people. It is what it is. (Man I hate that phrase!)
Zach had played an awful game. He didn't socialize. He spent all of his time working out to build up his endurance. He hadn't won a single competition. No one feared him and he was allowed to slide in. People wanted Jameka out, but turns out that here 5 weeks of no HOHs actually allowed her to slide through as well. Now she is just a POV win or two away from the finals. She or Zach MUST WIN POV this week.
Eric knows his stuff but as hen said, talked way too much. He rubbed people the wrong way. He threw early competitions (as was his strategy to not piss people off) then couldn't win when he had to. Not athletic at all so all he had was his brain and he couldn't win those contests either. But with all that, he still would have done well if he hadn't been AP. Jessica was too manipulative. She changed her mind based on whoever last talked to her. But she could win contests. I thought she was a dumb blond, but I think she was actually one of the brightest but needed more self-confidence. She had a great chance to win it all but Eric AP task destroyed her. She should have won it and I'm sad that she didn't as she seems like a genuinely nice person.
Zach seems book smart but incredibly naive and lacks street smarts. However, he is now making the most of things. I think he could be in the final 2 with Jameka if things go right. If he wins HOH he will put up D/D but it doesn't matter as whoever wins POV sends one fo the 2 nominees home with the single vote. Same goes for next week when the HOH sends one person (non POV winner) home.
I'm going to watch it, but it is a lot more boring now. No strategies as everything is black and white and I am not a fan of anyone left. Pulling for Jameka to somehow pull it out I guess. If Zach keeps winning though, he'll deserve it. If Dick wins POVs, Dani is the guaranteed winner--not him.
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| 80 | Peter N.
ID: 426242722
Sat, Sep 08, 2007, 05:53
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As I have stated before, I like Dick, Danielle, and Jameka. As long as one of them wins, I'll be happy. I hated to see Jessica go, but thats the way the game works. If Zach(the dumbass) wins, all hell should break loose. In fact, if Zach wins, I'll accuse CBS of rigging the show and never watch again. He's not deserving at all. Danielle really should win. She's been a great game competitor. She reminds me of Janelle(who is my all-time favorite BB houseguest)
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| 81 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sat, Sep 08, 2007, 12:15
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Btw, this is the last POV.
Zach has slid through as has Jameka as they weren't a threat, bt Zach stopped his evictions by winning and he continues to win. If he keeps it up, it will be hard to deny him--as much as I dislike him. Still I dislike the Donatos more. Zach constantly played the DD vs Jeric so they could get each other out and he'd continue to slide through. He sucked up to the HOH and promised him his vote so he could continue to slide and not be a threat. He might not have had any strategy early on, but he certinaly stepped it up the past few weeks and not putting his money where his mouth is and winning. In fact, unless DD gets a POV win or win the HOH in the enxt two weeks to stop it, Zach will be in the final 2. No one wants to go against Jameka and Jameka can't win competitions. If Zach or Jameka win this week (HOH and POV) Dani is going home. Therefore, it will likely be Zach and Dick in the finals--though I'm rooting for Zach and Jameka I guess--UGH! I'm going to watch it, but not as interested anymore.
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| 82 | blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Sat, Sep 08, 2007, 14:18
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Rigged if Zach wins? I'd say it's rigged if Dick or Daniele win. They're only still around because of CBS.
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| 83 | angryChair
ID: 459171622
Sun, Sep 09, 2007, 20:53
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BH---
They're only still around because of CBS.
Where's the evidence?
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| 84 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Sep 09, 2007, 22:55
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The evidence is that Eric would have voted them out instead of having to keep them in because of AP. That's Allison Grodner and CBS' thing to help their ratings by keeping in who America wanted in as long as possible. That is outside influence right there.
Did you see how fast Daniells tried to sel our her own father to Zach? I can't stand her.
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| 85 | wazaaap_guy
ID: 25832712
Mon, Sep 10, 2007, 13:51
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What happens when there's 3 left? Is Zach not eligible to win HOH? And when there's 3 people and HOH has been won, is there still a PoV? If one nominee wins, are they taken off the block and the other nominee automatically goeshome?
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| 86 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Mon, Sep 10, 2007, 13:54
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Well I already know who has won POV this wek so I won't spoil it.
Zach is eligible to cpmpete for HOH this time even though he is HOH this time. There will be a three-part competition to get HOH and the winner evicts the one he/she doesn't want to compete against in the finals for votes.
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| 87 | blue hen
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ID: 710321114
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 01:11
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I love Zach. I hate Daniele. You knew that.
Zach was really just trying to make some friends. So what if he's a little socially awkward - aren't we all? Good that he stood up to the bullies. And I really hate Daniele - born on 3rd, thinks she got a triple. I can't wait till they have the reunion and she hasn't talked to Dick.
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| 88 | wazaaap_guy
ID: 25832712
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 08:55
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Would it have been any different if Zach just put up Jameka and one of D+D? In that scenario, either Jameka or Zach wins POV and they take Jameka off the block and backdoor the other D. In the current scenario, if Jameka or Zach wins they keep D+D on the block. Ultimately I guess it didn't matter which way Zach went...even if he placated D+D by putting Jameka up, what good would that have done?
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| 89 | blue hen
ID: 16322314
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 14:16
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None. Good to see those two on the block. I wish they could get reamed out by someone. I hate Daniele.
Zach has to eliminate a Donato or else they eliminate him. If it doesn't happen here, and Jameka goes, Zach can still win the next HOH.
Either way, if Zach wins HOH and Jameka is still around, he has to eliminate her because he won't beat her in the finals. Odds of a Donato making the finals are pretty good.
Zach beats Dick or Daniele in the finals, right? I can't imagine Jess, Eric, Jameka, Jen or Amber would vote for a Donato. And Dustin probably wouldn't either. It'd be 5-2 or 6-1.
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| 90 | wazaaap_guy
ID: 25832712
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 17:52
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What if Zach pulls a Colby from Survivor and takes Jameka to the final 2 anyway?
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| 91 | blue hen
ID: 16322314
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 19:07
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If they beat up on Jen for surrendering prize money to win a competition, then why aren't they getting on Jameka for giving up 5 HOH's in the same competition? Jen's prize money makes no difference, but if Jameka had won an HOH in there, we'd probably still have America's Player.
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| 92 | wazaaap_guy
ID: 25832712
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 20:43
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What if Eric had let slip about America's Player? Or was just such a jerk that he got voted off in like week 2?
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| 93 | blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 23:42
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My only consolation is that either Zach wins or we get an all-Donato final, which would sure be interesting to see how the jury votes. Would people abstain? And how fast will Daniele drop her dad if she wins?
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| 94 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Sep 12, 2007, 00:28
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Danielle is so phony. YOu think she'd take her dad off the block if there were any chance she'd go home? This is the same person who tried to sell her dad outjust a few days ago.
Dick cussed Zach out all weekend after the POV played out and I jsut saw on You Tube where he has continued to cuss Zach out the entire 1st endurance comp.
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| 95 | blue hen
ID: 16322314
Wed, Sep 12, 2007, 10:21
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The Bunny Jump is a great competition. I have a feeling Zach will win - Daniele did NOT look happy.
I love how both Donatos said Zach went back on all his agreements. You know what? I don't recall a single Donato agreement that didn't get broken.
"We have an alliance. You're not going to break the alliance, are you?"
"Kail, I swear to you I won't put you up."
"Amber, I'll let you off the hook if you don't put me up."
They are a couple of bullies, and I'm not kidding. I will be so fun to see Zach beat a Donato 6-1, or to see both Donatos up there and get reamed out.
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| 96 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, Sep 12, 2007, 12:52
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Yeah Danielle and Dick said they were completely honest the entire game. What liars. It's jsut strategy. Nick. Kail. Amber. Jen. Jess. Eric.
They wre going to do it to Zach too before he won HOH last week. What hypocrites.
I did watch some of the competition via you tube and round one is over. The round one winner now gets to sit out of round two while the others battle it out.
Strategies (so not to spoil). If Zach wins, which Donato throws round 2 to face off against Zach in Round three endurance? I mean why go through a comp against your own teammate? My guess is that Dick would throw it and let Danielle play since Zach would take Dick to the finals anyway.
If either Donato wins, then they seal the final two if the other one wins. Then they can throw part 3.
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| 97 | tastethewaste
ID: 37871020
Thu, Sep 13, 2007, 22:18
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ugh...worst..final...HOH...competition...ever
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| 98 | blue hen
Leader
ID: 710321114
Thu, Sep 13, 2007, 23:00
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It was worth the ending to see Daniele yelping in the shower. I'm voting for Dick.
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| 99 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Thu, Sep 13, 2007, 23:14
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This was by far the worst season ever. I'm done with that show after this year.
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| 100 | Peter N.
ID: 426242722
Fri, Sep 14, 2007, 00:14
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LOL. I thought it was a great season. Give the Donatos credit. America with the assist. CBS has gotta love that.
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| 101 | Peter N.
ID: 426242722
Fri, Sep 14, 2007, 00:26
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Also, Danielle is the clear winner. I hope the Jury votes for her. I'm sure they will considering how big of a prick Dick has been. I think it would've taken a backdoor to get Dani out of the house. POV champ right there with Janelle. Say what you want about her, but the girl can compete. Congrats to the Donatos.
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| 102 | blue hen
ID: 16322314
Fri, Sep 14, 2007, 10:45
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I hope Dick wins. Because if Daniele wins he won't see a cent of the cash.
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| 103 | tastethewaste
ID: 37871020
Fri, Sep 14, 2007, 18:00
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I guess I just dont get it. Youre playing for $500,000. Why would the final competition be 6 questions with only 2 options? I guess they do it every season but it is so anticlimactic.
I actually found this season god awful. I blame the producers for letting dick do whatever he pleased without reprimand just for ratings. He will now get rewarded with watching his daughter win. I find myself actually hoping, once out of the house that Danielle stiffs him and she blows through the money and both end up really suffering.
Out of the 2 however I do want dick to win. Someone needs to give Danielle a stern talking to about how to be an adult.
PS I also read that the Donatos knew about the "twist" of being "surprised" that they were both competing on Big Brother. In fact, from what I've read they actually took a limo together just prior to the show.
link
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| 104 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Sep 14, 2007, 18:31
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Nice link.
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| 105 | blue hen
ID: 16322314
Fri, Sep 14, 2007, 18:37
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Yeah, very nice read. I agree. I hate them both (I'd rather have anybody win than those two, even Nick). But they each have one thing going for each of them...
1. Daniele won a lot of competitions. A boatload. And you have to give her credit for that. Shame on CBS for putting questions ahead of the bunny jump (best challenge ever, until the bunny stopped - also shame on CBS), but admit it: Daniele won. And won and won and won.
2. Dick genuinely wants to reconcile with Daniele. As soon as he thought one of them was leaving, he made sure she stayed. She would never have done that for him if there was even a small chance she'd go. If she wins, he won't ever see him again. If he wins, she'll cling to him like glue. Which is fitting, because she was two-faced to everyone else in the house; why not Dick too?
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| 106 | tastethewaste
ID: 37871020
Fri, Sep 14, 2007, 19:14
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Daniele definitely played the game. But it is hard to really appreciate the gameplay when so much of it is manipulated by CBS. If what that article is saying is true, then we have to assume everything that could be rigged was rigged for ratings.
Earlier in this thread Ref linked to a youtube video where jen is complaining of being influenced by the producers on who to vote for. This is the same allegation that got survivor in trouble in their very first season. Do we really know (and i have a hard time believing) that america actually liked Dick and Danielle and wanted to see them through? The first season of Big Brother america voted everyone out. They voted out controversial players first because they were the most well known. Do we believe that america has changed that much in 7 years that we now root for the bully? How do we really know that America wanted to see Jameka or Dustin voted out before someone who constantly berates other people, pours ice tea over peoples heads, makes fun of other peoples religion and bodies and sexual preferences. And if that was rigged and the producers nullified americas input than shame on CBS who not only duped people, but took their money in the process. That texting your vote stuff aint free.
Dick and Danielle were great for ratings. Much moreso than two former lovers who may or may not have given each other gonorrehea and way moreso than middleschool chums who had a falling out over 5 bucks. CBS milked it for all it was worth. As we have seen over the past few months messing with the integrity of a game shouldnt be taken lightly, (ask Tim Donaghy and Bill Bellichek) And of course there is much more wrong in the world then a reality tv show being fixed but I still somehow feel like a sucker for even watching the show and investing 3 months of time into something that was so obviously rigged for ratings and money for CBS when it should be a competition of strategy, and social skills like it was intended.
End rant.
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| 107 | Peter N.
ID: 426242722
Fri, Sep 14, 2007, 21:25
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tastethewaste, thats an interesting perspective. I know I'm in the minority on these boards, but I thought Dick and Danielle were fun to watch. While they both are not people I'd ever want to associate with personally, they were very entertaining and great TV. That is the main reason why I liked them. They had a compelling story and maybe I'm a sucker for believing that they can repair a broken relationship. Either way, it was very enjoyable to watch and I'm happy for the both of them. I just can't wait to see their reaction when they find out about America's Player. :-) This was another enjoyable BB season. My only disappointment is that Zach made it so far. I was really hoping Jess could make it further.
Can't wait for next season!
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| 108 | C.SuperFreak
ID: 42481919
Fri, Sep 14, 2007, 23:35
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Just the fact that the live feeds cut out er are censored during some "sensitive" moments indicates that not everything is on the up and up with this show.
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| 109 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sat, Sep 15, 2007, 10:38
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When I'm watching a reality show, I want it to be legit. From what I've read that because it is not a game show, legally it can be rigged. Hinky things can go on. We don't even know if the AP names wre actual votes or what CBS wanted. It makes sense if they were real as they were trying to help ratings in the guise of "we're doing waht you want," even though there is supposed to be no outside influence on the house.
So Dick and Dani road to the show together. Dick broke the rules against verbal abuse but CBS allowed it because it made for good tv. Dick's son Vincent sent him a letter for his HOH which Dick admitted in the house (of course they didn't show it on TV--only on the feeds) that it was coded on who to trust and who to target, etc. Vincent wrote on his blog that they had conspired with about a dozen other codes in there but his Dad forgot them. When Exec. Producer Allison Grodner and CBS was cornered with this they said there is no proof and Dick could have been just boasting--though he only told Dani about it. He read the letter and was showing her the code and what it meant, etc.
This finale means nothing. Both of their arogant personalities will be roaring their ugly heads. The Donatos thing America loves them, but I have a feeling (like that link) most do not. Every time I hear Dani talk my stomach turns. That whiny way she ends her sentences finds me running for the bathroom. She tells everyone that it's her dad and not her but as everyone finally saw on TV that she encourages it. Dad go distract him so he can fall off. The whole season she just laughed when he would go off on people. Then if it didn't suit her she'd say ok back off for a few and he would stop immediately. I just don't want to watch a show (even if it's not totally predetermined) that is rigged or has some fishiness going on. I'm "pot committed" this year and really want to see what people say about the AP on Tuesday, but as for future shows--blech.
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