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Subject: Poker Part X
Posted by: ChicagoTRS
- [344311322] Tue, Sep 11, 2007, 21:42
Time for a new poker thread...
Poker seems alive and well...bigger online tournaments than ever. WSOP concluded with only slightly smaller fields than last year.`
Hoping for regulation and legitimacy some day... |
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| 94 | biliruben
ID: 33258140
Thu, May 01, 2008, 19:52
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Cool. Thanks.
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| 95 | beastiemiked
ID: 402141714
Fri, May 02, 2008, 17:52
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I like the change. It's going to be a huge pubicity stunt and something a lot of people will be talking about. Even non poker players could watch it if they hype it enough.
It does hurt the final tablers that already know a ton about the game. Presumably, they can't get much better but the weaker players could vastly improve. Still, I doubt many of those that final table event will be complaining about it since endorsements, publicity, and fame will be much easier to come by with the live final table airing.
If I made the final table I'd do something to stand out, like not shave my beard for the 4 months wait.
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| 96 | R9
Leader
ID: 02624472
Fri, May 02, 2008, 18:12
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I like the change. Not sure if that long a wait is neccessary, but whatever. The final table does get somewhat lost in the shuffle of the WSOP crazyness. Having it be a whole event onto itself, like the Superbowl or World Series, will give it alot more exposure.
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| 97 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 30471016
Tue, Jun 03, 2008, 15:25
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Anyone headed to the WSOP this year? I am still debating whether I should make a trip...I have been running pretty well lately so I am considering spending 4-5 days out there just to play cash tables.
Headed to San Jose next week for a week...I am in a CCNA boot camp so I am not sure how much time I will be able to devote to poker but hopefully can play a night or two at Bay 101.
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| 98 | beastiemiked
ID: 402141714
Wed, Jun 04, 2008, 23:20
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I'm out here until July. It's pretty crazy. Played in 2 events already but busted with typical bad beats for a lot of chips :)
Rio is way better organized this year compared to last.
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| 99 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 30471016
Tue, Jun 10, 2008, 23:26
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Played at the Bay 101 tonight. Did not plan on it but went out for dinner and some how I found my way to the Bay 101 ;-) ate dinner there and figured I would play for 1.5 hours.
Table was very loose aggressive right from the start...lot of reraises with garbage hands...~4 players capable of this at any point and lots of callers. I decided to play tight since I knew I did not have the time to get involved a lot and was not in the mood to bleed off a lot of money. The cards pretty much dictated how I played anyway as I never had anything for the first hour. I decided to take advantage of hopefully the image I had built and try to steal a pot from the cutoff...on a raggedy flop a very loose player to my left bet $20 on the flop...I raised $60 with K6 nothing...unfortunately I got two callers. Turn was another garbage card...figure the only way I win the pot is to bet...players check to me and I go all-in for around 100...both players hem and haw saying they know I have aces. One player calls...I figure I am cooked. Ready to muck my cards on the river...river is a blank...do not really even want to show my hand...flip up the King high and the caller cannot beat a king...lol...straight draw...and I scoop a $400 pot. Listen to that player cry for 20 minutes about the hand. I win another 100 or so with pockets KKs later and end the short stay at Bay 101 up $300.
Works for me...going to the SF vs Oakland game Saturday night...compliments of a K high.
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| 100 | Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Wed, Jun 11, 2008, 11:55
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LOL......nice TRS. That doesn't surprise me about the loose aggressive play. Did you like the facility?
Freddy Deeb's ex-wife (and not exactly a 'nice' split from what I could tell in my 1 minute conversation) works as a floor man there.
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| 101 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 30471016
Wed, Jun 11, 2008, 12:06
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I really liked the facility...second time I have played there. I wish I had access to that type facility where I live...everything is pretty good about it...good food served right at the table...a lot of tables...loose players...good parking, do not have to walk far...etc...
I would say the only negative is that it is not true NL...but from what I have seen it plays pretty much like NL with a max $200 bet...at least at the lower tables...might be more of a problem at bigger limits. I also do not like the plastic/rubber-y chips...they get kind of sticky...though they are better than when I was there a month or so back...seems like they had all new chips this time.
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| 102 | biliruben
ID: 33258140
Wed, Jun 11, 2008, 14:01
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I gotta find time to sneak away from the in-laws next time I'm in Mountain View. Sounds like a house I would do well in.
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| 103 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 4110481415
Mon, Jun 30, 2008, 12:08
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Trip report...Majestic Casino Gary, IN...
Not a very long session...got to the casino around midnight and played until 3am. Couple interesting hands. 2-5 NL $500 max buy-in.
First hand...I had just been moved from the must move table to a regular table. Not even in a hand yet. It is the turn...the board is 5 - J - 9 - K rainbow. There is around $150 in the pot. An older gentlemen who seems very drunk but has a lot of chips in front of him...~$2500. He stands up and says "screw it...I have been drinking I am all-in". Next player to act goes into the tank...he has ~$1500 and is like WTF? after 5 minutes he finally folds (he had a set of 5s). Next player has around $500...and he is also like #$%#$%! He flips up pockets Kings for a set of kings and goes into the tank for like 5 minutes plus...finally someone calls clock and he ends up folding a set of Kings. Drunk guy mucks his cards...and then needles the set of Ks for the next hour..."I had a straight...nope I did not have it...I had it...no I didn't...can't believe you folded a set...etc"
Big fold...I would have called with the Kings and not even thought about it much especially with a not very deep stack...I could see the set of 5s folding since he was so deep...even if he has the straight you have FH outs. After the fact I think the drunk guy had the straight and I also think the "drunk guy" was a little bit of an actor. He never really got out of line in future hands and I think while he was drinking he was acting a lot more drunk than he actually was. Just an interesting hand.
I won one big pot with pockets Qs...made a standard preflop raise ($20) and got reraised ($80) by a player who I already had a read on as someone making a lot of preflop steals with marginal cards. I called, another player called. Flop came 10-7-3. Reraiser opened for about half the pot. I felt I was good and was playing the hand out...called...did not want to reraise and scare off his future bluffs. Player after me raises...nearly putting me it. First player/bluffer folds...and I think for awhile...only likely hand that probably beats me here is a set...I am getting around 4 to 1 and I push all-in...which is only like $100 more to his raise...he looks displeased but calls...board bricks out and I take the pot. Not sure what he had...either a 10 or flush draw would be my guess.
Played another hour or so and went home...doubled my buy-in plus some gas money.
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| 104 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 4110481415
Mon, Jun 30, 2008, 12:10
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Anyone tracking WSOP 08?
A lot of big name pro winners...won't post any names to avoid spoilers.
Should probably start a new thread.
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| 105 | Farn
Leader
ID: 451044109
Mon, Jun 30, 2008, 14:15
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So as not to stumble across spoilers while digging, can anyone tell me when they will start airing some of the events?
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| 106 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 4110481415
Mon, Jun 30, 2008, 14:25
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They have been airing a lot of the final tables live on ESPN360...
For users who do not get ESPN360...can use this link:
bwin wsop video
I don't expect ESPN to start broadcasting WSOP08 until ~late Aug/beginning of Sept...but I am not 100% sure. I know the Main event final table will take place live in November.
Not sure if you heard...but the main event final table while decided in July will not actually be played until November so no worry about spoilers. I think the table will take place one day and be broadcast the next.
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| 107 | DMAN
ID: 420562310
Wed, Jul 09, 2008, 17:08
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Episodes Begin Premiering July 22 and Will Continue on Tuesday Nights
Tuesdays just got that much more exciting, as ESPN recently announced the 2008 World Series of Poker television schedule, and beginning July 22, “Tuesday night is poker night on ESPN.”
Every Tuesday night from July 22-Sept. 2 a new episode of the WSOP will premiere from 8-10 p.m. ET. The first episode appropriately starts with event No. 1, the $10,000 buy-in pot-limit hold’em championship.
The $10,000 buy-in main event is scheduled to premiere on Sept. 2 from 8p.m.-10 p.m. ET and will continue airing on Tuesday nights from Sept. 9 to Oct. 28, but at 9-11 p.m. ET. ESPN will show the action all the way down to the final table of nine. On Nov. 4 at 8 p.m.-10 p.m., a final-table preview show will air.
This is the first year that no one will know the results of the main event months before the airing of the episode. In May, ESPN and Harrah’s Entertainment announced that the main event will not conclude on July 16 as originally scheduled, but instead, after taking nearly a four-month break, the final table will reconvene Nov. 9. The remaining nine players will play down to heads up. On Nov. 10, the final two players will play for the more than $9.1 million first-place prize and a permanent place in poker history as a WSOP champion. Television audiences will be reintroduced to the final nine on Nov. 11, when the final table episode airs from 9 p.m.-11 p.m. ET.
The following is the schedule of premieres:
Tuesdays on ESPN Date Time Event
July 22 8-10 p.m. ET $10,000 pot-limit hold'em world championship
July 29 8-10 p.m. ET $1,500 no-limit hold'em
Aug. 5 8-10 p.m. ET $1,500 pot-limit hold'em/$5,000 mixed hold'em
Aug. 12 8-10 p.m. ET $1,000 no-limit hold'em with rebuys
Aug. 19 8-10 p.m. ET $50,000 H.O.R.S.E. world championship
Aug. 26 8-10 p.m. ET $10,000 pot-limit Omaha world championship
Sept. 2 8-10 p.m. ET $10,000 no-limit hold'em main event
Sept. 9 9-11 p.m. ET $10,000 no-limit hold'em main event
Sept. 16 9-11 p.m. ET $10,000 no-limit hold'em main event
Sept. 23 9-11 p.m. ET $10,000 no-limit hold'em main event
Sept. 30 9-11 p.m. ET $10,000 no-limit hold'em main event
Oct. 7 9-11 p.m. ET $10,000 no-limit hold'em main event
Oct. 14 9-11 p.m. ET $10,000 no-limit hold'em main event
Oct. 21 9-11 p.m. ET $10,000 no-limit hold'em main event
Oct. 28 9-11 p.m. ET $10,000 no-limit hold'em main event
Nov. 4 8-10 p.m. ET Main event final-table preview show
Nov. 11 9-11 p.m. ET $10,000 no-limit hold'em main event final table
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| 108 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 344311322
Sun, Jul 13, 2008, 12:06
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Trip report...
Played at Majestic in Gary, IN last night...2-5 NL.
One interesting hand...I have A-10 clubs on the button. Couple limpers to me I make a standard raise of $20. One caller. Flop comes all low cards with one club. I make a continuation bet of $30...get called. I am pretty much done with the hand. Turn is a club so I decide to make a semi-bluff since I have the nut flush draw....$65 bet and get called. River is the Q of clubs....giving me the nut flush/nuts. Player leads out $190...woohoo..I stall around a bit. I have ~$300 behind after I call. I finally go all-in...get insta-called...lady jumps out of her seat and slams down a king high flush..."I CALL! FLUSH!"...I calmly flip over the A-10 clubs for the nut flush and the lady lets out around a 100 decibal scream of "FU#%!!!!" the entire room looks at her, her chair slams on the floor. Nice ~$1200 pot...obviously lucky...wish I had more money as she had ~$700 more behind and she would have stacked off...no way she could put me on the flush. Actually conversed with the lady for awhile after the hand...she was a regular there and was very shocked by the hand...very friendly...gave me a ton of compliments...heheh allowed me to bluff her a few times later.
One guy at the table had ~8K in front of him...had been in the same seat for over 36 hours and had been at the casino since Wednesday...84+ hours...and I thought I was a sick gambler.
Played 3 hours about tripled my buy-in...worked for me.
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| 109 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 4110481415
Tue, Jul 15, 2008, 09:26
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Final table set for the WSOP main event...take a break for 4 months...
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| 110 | Rendle
ID: 59638810
Tue, Jul 15, 2008, 16:21
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ChicagoTRS, what limits you playing online now? I'm playing 50NL and mixing in some 100NL when I'm trying to not be a nit. I moved back over to Full Tilt when they offered me rakeback and it's really added a boost to my bankroll.
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| 111 | Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Tue, Jul 15, 2008, 17:15
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Funny seven-deuce story:
I'm in Reno Sunday into Tuesday this week. Monday was golf/client stuff in nearby Lake Tahoe so I decided to head up to Reno to gamble and catch a shorter drive to Tahoe. I went to my normal casino in Reno....they were only spreading a 4/8 half kill.
The game was looser than a Mustang Ranch veteran courtisan. Combo of a few locals/regulars and travelers. A lot of callers on many flops and turns and even multiple showdown callers. This one guy was really funky (okay, stupid is a better word) - on more than a couple of occasions he would 2, 3 or 4 bet 2 pair or a set with a board showing either 4 to a flush or 4 to a straight. Or he would raise the straight with a flush or pair on the board - crazy stuff.
So, I had won two in a row, so it was a kill pot and the limits went up to 6/12. As the kill pot winner, I had a forced 6 dollar blind....as luck would have it, I was also the big blind. Loose maniac to my left raises to 12, and there are THREE callers. I have 7-2 off, but with $54 in the pot I'm getting 9-to-1 so I call. Flop comes 2-2-10 rainbow. I'm first to act and of course check.
It checks around to the last player to act, who bets. I raise it up, not wanting a pocket pair to fill up on me. One person calls the whole 12 while the bettor calls, so three way action to the turn. Turn is a 5c. There are two clubs on the board now. I bet out the 12, and one guy folds. The guy who bet the flop rolls his eyes and reluctantly calls. To pour salt into the wound, river is a 7c to give me deuces full of sevens. I bet and he calls. As he is calling I already start to make light of the subject, apologizing and quoting pot odds....he turns over KK and throws his hands into the air with his eyes rolling into the back of his head upon seeing my seven-deuce.
He proceeds to ask how I could play that. I quote my 9-1 odds, and the guarantee that it couldn't be raised again as I was last to act. He barked about it off and on a few times before busting out and leaving.
........to make it even funnier, after golf and whatnot I make my way down to the poker room again at 6:00pm-ish, and my friend is there. I sit down and he points at me, exclaiming "THAT'S HIM!!". I laugh and ask the table "is he telling the seven-deuce story?!?" and they all laugh and nod their heads, so we all had a good laugh about it. Even the guy I put the beat on and I had laughs about it and had a good time.
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| 112 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 4110481415
Tue, Jul 15, 2008, 17:29
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Rakeback is tremendous...
I play mostly 200PLO & 400PLO. Some NL at the same limits. But mostly PLO these days. Was playing 1000 and 2000PLO for the last few months until I took a major 3 day downswing (TILT) to my bankroll. Grinding at the lower limits until I can recover. PLO has a lot higher variance...something I need to mentally adjust to and also must adjust my bankroll requirements so I can withstand bad sessions.
Online NL lately is getting tough, I can barely beat it especially when multi-tabling...if I concentrate on just one table I generally do very well...play is just better across the board...cannot really survive playing in a robotic fashion anymore. Plus I think after playing strictly NL for the past 4 years I am just bored of the game...PLO is so much more interesting...so many more dynamics to the game.
Live I am playing NL and having very good success in limited play.
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| 113 | rockafellerskank
Dude
ID: 27652109
Wed, Aug 06, 2008, 21:59
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I have been playing on PS and Absolute to varying degrees the past 6 months. I'm playing all over the board.. from .50/$1 NL to $10/$20 NL and I am discovering the level of play is much better than 12 months ago. I can't beat any of the games consistently. I'm "break even" plus rake + plus bonus, so my hourly rate has gone way down. The fish who used to play/reload are all gone. I was hoping to see an up tick with the start of WSOP, but so far, no new fishes.
I'm considering a change:
1) Play "live" only
2) play S N G's
3) play tourneys.
Anyone else ready for a change?
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| 114 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 344311322
Thu, Aug 07, 2008, 13:36
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1) live is good...my win rate live has been much better than online recently.
2) SNGs...played out...they are just as tough as NL ring games.
3) tourneys...tough to make consistent money unless you make a big score.
I think the most profitable opportunities are live (though even the live players I know are complaining that their games are getting tougher)...PLO a lot of players are moving to the game and are still not playing it well...mixed games same thing, the interest is up but hard to get excited playing limit poker.
Just becoming a tougher landscape...probably will not change until the government loosens the online restrictions or hopefully one day joins the party...then the game will be very good.
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| 115 | biliruben
ID: 52561217
Thu, Aug 07, 2008, 14:32
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I haven't played much lately, but I occasionally play live - get a decent 2-40 spread game, and if I time it for after a ball game, that usually brings in some fish. I hadn't played a tourney in a long time, but did a small midnight tourney last night at one of the local casinos, and I realized how much I miss it.
But the players were generally of much higher quality than I remember. I was the only one kinda drunk, but that can work to your advantage in a tourney if you aren't too drunk and its a reasonably short tourney, because you are a bit more aggressive, which is necessary, and people underestimate you a bit. Plus it's fun.
Got down to final 4 medium stack, then pushed with A 10, and got 2 callers with lesser hands, probably because I was drunk and had played lots of hands when the blinds were small. Of course the K J caught his J on the river and I was done, but that's how those tourneys work.
In Vegas, I was surprised how hard it was to find a decent tourney. I can generally find bigger ones here.
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| 116 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 344311322
Sun, Aug 10, 2008, 23:24
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Trip report...Horseshoe Hammond, IN...grand opening weekend. Had heard a ton of great reviews regarding this new casino and I was not disappointed. Simply awesome poker room. 36 tables...tons of action...room was as nice as the best Vegas rooms...very comparable to Bellagio or the Venetian. Nice leather chairs...high ceilings...all wood paneled room...big pics of poker greats...50" plasmas everywhere...seperate high limit area...and seperate nose bleed room modeled after Bobby's room at the Bellagio...all first class. The casino itself was huge and reminded me of being in Vegas with a huge open floor...center casino bar...wall to wall people.
As for poker they were spreading a ton of games from 1-2 NL to 100-200 NL...2-5 and 5-10 PLO...Limit Holdem...etc...the wait for 1-2 NL was 60+ people deep. Phil Gordon was there playing 25-50 NL...also saw Antoine Walker hanging in the poker room...did not catch if he was playing. I played 2-5 NL for 3 hours and there was just sick/bad action from a few players...tons of gambling going on. I lost $100 on the night which I was ok with considering I was down a lot more early in the evening. Would have stayed and I am sure I would have had some great chances to win but was with a friend and he had a "curfew".
Example of some of the play...preflop...AK makes it 25...AQ calls...A7 calls...JJ pushes in for 200...AK then pushes 460...AQ calls 460...and A7 pushes his remaining 400. Of course the flop comes 77X and A7 wins a monster pot. I only had one real hand the entire evening when I had 87o and rivered a fullhouse and doubled up. The PLO action was supposedly even better.
Probably one of the top 5 poker rooms in the country and easily the best in the midwest...a lot of really poor players...I feel like I found a new home. Decent comps...scan your player card right at the table and they pay you $2 hour in food comps. I can't believe I have a vegas comparable poker room within a 45 minute drive.
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| 117 | Rendle
Donor
ID: 014815714
Tue, Aug 12, 2008, 10:08
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ChicagoTRS, I've started to play PLO online starting at the bottom with PLO25. It's obviously pretty bad at the bottom but the action is great. I've watched some videos at Deuces Cracked and I think I'm learning. Unfortunately I have to play less tables because there's so much more thinking compared to hold em.
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| 118 | beastiemiked
ID: 06411813
Tue, Aug 12, 2008, 14:36
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have been playing on PS and Absolute to varying degrees the past 6 months.
Stop playing at Absolute. They let superusers/cheater play on their site and only stopped them after guys from twoplustwo caught them. Even if they are legit now doesn't change the fact that you are giving rake to a shady company.
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| 119 | R9
ID: 21721142
Wed, Aug 13, 2008, 06:24
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Agreed, Absolute and Ultimate Bet deserve nothing but to DIAGF.
While I agree the games have gotten tougher overall, there is still a ton of money to be made imho. The opportunities are just different. The 1/2 and 2/4 NL tables see way too much 3-betting maniacs, but alot of them play very poorly post-flop. In essence they put more money in preflop into a pot they lose more often then not. Alot of top players 3-bet a ton, but they know what they are doing post-flop...
I wouldn't give up the cash games rfs, unless you really don't have alot of time. The adjustments needed can be learned by reading a few good books (Harrington's new two volume on cash games is a great start) and by watching videos at Cardrunners and other sites. (Brian Townsend's CR vids are great.)
The tournies at PStars are still great too imo. I'm cashing in their small buy-in rebuys (5$ at 6pm, 3$ at 8pm, 11$ at 10pm) at about a 40% clip since early June, while usually playing 3 cash game tables at the same time. Basic aggressive tourny strategy is easy to follow. Just steal, steal steal. Some guy named Snyder has a couple great tourny books out. But I agree with TRS that you can go a while between scores, which is why I like playing cash games at the same time.
Oh, and I'd always put playing live ahead of online. Its just more fun. :) If you're getting sick of online a bit, try running live more often.
GL! and give us an update.
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| 120 | biliruben
ID: 38751812
Wed, Aug 13, 2008, 13:55
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DIAGF = Die In A Gruesome Fire?
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| 121 | DWetzel at library
ID: 347481312
Wed, Aug 13, 2008, 14:08
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Grease fire, I believe. Very close though!
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| 122 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 4110481415
Tue, Aug 26, 2008, 09:59
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Trip report...Horseshoe Hammond IN...went to the Chicago Cubs game Friday afternoon...bleh rotten game. Headed to the Shoe after the game...sat at the 2-5 PLO game...bought in for the table max of $500. My first live PLO experience. Right from the start figured this table for a bunch of gamblers. So I played pretty tight...saw cheap flops when I could...had reloaded $100 early on...was pretty card dead the first 3 hours or so but still managed to work up to ~$850. Our table then got moved to the high limit area which was nice as they serve food at the tables in the high limit area. Enjoyed a sandwich and then I finally started getting some cards. Flopped a nut straight and got paid off...hit a fullhouse and got paid off...before you know it I was sitting with nearly 2K.
Most interesting hand of the night...I had 7 8 9 9 with suited spades. Called a small raise from the dealer position and saw a flop with 4 players...flop came 10-4-5...2 spades but not much else. Older guy at the table led out from the blinds, calling station called...and I decided to call just to float and with the thought I could take the pot away at some point. Turn is a 9...now my hand looks a lot better...set of nines...low spade flush draw...open ended straight draw. Old guy leads out again nearly the full pot...calling station calls...action comes to me and I am not sure how I cannot raise here but the old guy has been the tightest person at the table and looking at him he looks very strong...I can just sense he is itching to reraise...I just think to myself...he has a set of 10s...the only hand he is going to play this way. He has around $600 sitting behind and any raise I make he will be able to push in...I just call. The river brings a J completing the low end straight for me...check...check...I think about betting but a little worried about the calling station...do not think I am going to get a worse hand to call much money so I just check. Sure enough old guy has a set of 10s...calling station has the same low end straight...I show my low end straight and split the pot. Old guy was a bit annoyed I did not pop the turn with my hand...It would have worked out for me as I would have likely called his reraise and then stacked him when I hit the straight but would have been the wrong move as he was ahead 65-35 on the turn.
Cashed out 2K around midnight for a nice win. Nice sitting in front of a mountain of red chips.
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| 124 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 344311322
Sat, Sep 06, 2008, 15:46
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Trip report...Horseshoe Hammond IN...poker room is jumping...they have a promotion where quads pays $500, straight flush 1K, royal 1.5K...and this includes PLO. This is sick +EV for PLO as it is not very uncommon to see those hands...thus some NLHE players have made their way to PLO to take their shot at the high hand jackpots...NLHE = yum yum for regular PLO players. Played 8 hours of 2-5 PLO...Only 1 high hand hit at our table the entire night...other 2-5 PLO table has like 10 hit.
I pretty much suck all night. The table is much stronger than my last trip here...3 very strong players...~7-10K total on the table throughout the night. I am not catching any cards and in my first 5 hours of play I am stuck $1200. I make one last rebuy and 2.5 hours later and I am still stuck ~900...just hoping to get one decent pot and escape only down 500 or so. A lot of raising/reraising preflop. Not uncommon for someone to make it $25 preflop and then get 5 or 6 callers...even reraised $75 pre you might get 4 callers. Table is playing big...I lost a buy in set over set and another with top set vs a big wrap draw.
End of the night and this hand happens...have about 850 stack...I have 7-8-10-A double suited in mid position. Call a 25 raise...6 people see the flop. Flop 6-9-10...bingo! Early position raiser pots it...150...I am next to act and decide to just call...I have no redraw and decide to see another card before jamming...plus there is action behind me...2 more players call...big pot. Turn is a perfect card...2 of hearts which gives me the nut heart redraw. Early position player pots again and is all-in for 450...I push in for ~650. Strong player to my left takes some time...he has a spade draw and eventually folds. Last player has me covered and calls. We all flip them up for the river...last player has same straight....early player had a set of 9s. River is dealt...please do not pair the board...calling for a heart...river K of hearts...woohooo...huge pot and now I am up a buyin+ for the night.
Played a little longer but was ready to go. I was out of position to two of the stronger players that had me covered and was not ready to play that deep. Ran into a good friend, drank a beer or two and went home happy.
I realized tonight I still have a lot of room to improve in this game especially live (and deep)...the 3 very strong players had me intimidated all night. They made some big laydowns and bluffs I do not think I could make but are definitely critical in PLO.
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| 125 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 4110481415
Mon, Sep 22, 2008, 15:08
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Another session at the Shoe Friday...not too interesting. Played 2-5 NL as we could never get enough interest in PLO. Made enough to fill my gas tank, wash the car, and get something to eat...I guess better than losing.
Was a weak tightish table...allowed me to steal a lot but never got in a position to win any big pots...biggest pot I was in all night I lost. AQ...flop was KQx with 3 hearts...I had A of hearts...player (smallish stack) with a king moved all-in...I called and could not catch A/Q or heart. I was actually a little ahead ~coin flip...
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| 126 | Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Mon, Nov 03, 2008, 23:00
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Got through the final 9 on ESPN's coverage. Were there some BRUTAL beats on the river in tonight's episodes or WHAT?!?!?
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| 127 | Rendle
ID: 10738277
Tue, Nov 04, 2008, 00:33
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Thank god Tiffany Michelle and Brandon Cantu didn't make it. It was brutal watching them.
Ivan Demidov came in 3rd in the WSOP Europe Main Event so he's on quite a roll. He's my pick to win. Phillips can't get hit with the deck forever.
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| 128 | Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Tue, Nov 04, 2008, 12:43
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I didn't like Tiffany's call for a clock pretty quick into one all in decision. Maybe it was a lot longer than it seemed on TV, but that was pretty F-d up.
To Phillips' credit, he has played his good hands well. He seems to have the composure to make bold moves with nothing as well. Rheem is ballsy but too reckless, IMO.
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| 129 | Rendle
Donor
ID: 014815714
Tue, Nov 04, 2008, 12:55
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Tiffany Michelle posted this on the 2+2 poker message boards:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29/news-views-gossip/my-turn-tiffany-michelles-post-wsop-thoughts-332348/
Most of it probably isn't worth reading but Craig Marquis' response was great. (post 19) She responds in post 41 and comes off bitchy again.
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| 130 | ChicagoTRS
ID: 4110481415
Tue, Nov 04, 2008, 14:42
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I agree...total bitch...and thinks she is far better than she actually is. Sort of perfect that she is sponsored by Ultimate Bet...
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| 131 | Seattle Zen
ID: 49112418
Fri, Nov 07, 2008, 14:27
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I didn't like Tiffany's call for a clock pretty quick into one all in decision. Maybe it was a lot longer than it seemed on TV, but that was pretty F-d up.
Completely agreed. Wow, did she ever go from "smoking hot" to "ugg, go away" in a heart beat.
I've really enjoyed watching the ESPN coverage this year, the decision to postpone the final table was a great one, in my mind.
Please don't post any spoilers!
I'm pulling for Ylon Schwartz, I just like that guy.
Anyone watch The Grand? I thought it was hilarious, though there were a few times at the table where the hands played were just stupid. I mean, come on, you've got Phil Gordon involved, didn't someone have him read the script to point out the errors? That said, it was really funny, though my wife cannot even fathom watching a movie about poker and laughing. That's like peeing in your own wetsuit... (just watch the movie).
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| 132 | Rob J
ID: 27754322
Mon, Nov 10, 2008, 15:51
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In ref to Post 52:, I think that sounds like a great idea. I think I
could learn a thing or two from all the quality players on here. We
would have to decide on a time of course...
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| 133 | Rendle
Donor
ID: 014815714
Mon, Nov 10, 2008, 16:16
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I was weak and ended up listening to the live broadcast yesterday. Still can't wait to watch it on ESPN tomorrow.
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| 134 | beastiemiked
ID: 5310301021
Mon, Nov 10, 2008, 22:30
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I listened to it and glad I did. I know Espn will only end up showing 10% of the hands.
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| 135 | tastethewaste
ID: 351042811
Tue, Nov 11, 2008, 10:31
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i cannot believe i watch the whole thing on espn and was looking forward to tonight and then on yahoo they post the final 2 and to click here who the winner was. then im watching sportscenter to see who won the cardinal game and at the bottom of the screen they post the winner!! WTF!?
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| 136 | Da Bomb
Donor
ID: 487112814
Tue, Nov 11, 2008, 10:38
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The sports ticker ruined it for me too. Don't watch espn today if you cared to not know who the winner was beforehand.
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| 137 | Rendle
Donor
ID: 014815714
Tue, Nov 11, 2008, 10:39
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The winner is mentioned at the top of the page at rotoworld too.
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| 138 | Species
Dude
ID: 07724916
Tue, Nov 11, 2008, 12:08
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Yahoo front page screwed me. WTF!
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| 139 | Seattle Zen
ID: 358591721
Wed, Nov 12, 2008, 01:41
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Wow, I guess I was lucky to remain in the dark.
There were some really poor pushes in this game that made the final two uncompetitive.
Three cheers for never having to hear "Phil Helmuth is the youngest to ever win the Main Event" again!
I listened to it and glad I did.
Was the audience in the dark, or were the hole cards broadcast? How long did the final table take?
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| 140 | Seattle Zen
ID: 358591721
Wed, Nov 12, 2008, 02:11
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After reading a blog, Eastgate had a $79M to $57M chip lead going heads-up, not a dominate lead. That's the problem with watching the ESPN synopsis, they only showed a few hands, gave it maybe ten minutes.
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| 141 | Donkey Hunter
Leader
ID: 916288962
Wed, Nov 12, 2008, 08:40
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The heads up was close to 4 hours. The first hand they showed on the broadcast heads up was actually like hand 80.
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| 142 | beastiemiked
ID: 5310301021
Wed, Nov 12, 2008, 14:39
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Hole cards weren't broadcast to anyone. Everyone had to wait until the ESPN broadcast to see just how badly Phillips played :) It sucks that only 2 hands were shown of the Eastgate/Demidov battle. They were the best 2 at the table and I'm sure there were a lot of interesting hands in situations during their heads up battle. I think it's funny that ESPN was spilling the news. I can understand other websites and tv programs spoiling it for ESPN but having PTI and Sportscenter have headlines on it is kinda funny. It reminded me of the Moneymaker year. That year during commercials of the main event broadcast they had Moneymaker promoting some website as the 2003 main event champion.
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| 143 | Seattle Zen
ID: 49112418
Wed, Nov 12, 2008, 14:46
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It takes a serious poker fan to listen to an audio broadcast of a 15 hour final table without the hole cards!
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| 144 | beastiemiked
ID: 5310301021
Wed, Nov 12, 2008, 20:14
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I didn't listen to the heads up part and that was 4-5 hours of the 15 hours. Plus, I was playing online poker at the same time. It actually allowed me to get in more hours than I'm used to playing/working.
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