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Subject: American Idol 2010
Posted by: JeffG
- Leader [01584348] Tue, Jan 12, 2010, 16:02
Season 9 gets underway tonight with those sometimes painful audition episodes.
A few already pretty well publicized changes in store. This will be Simon Cowell's last year on the judges panel. Paula Abdul is not returning. The show will have a guest judge during the audition shows, with Ellen DeGeneres joining full time beginning with the Hollywood week shows.
They are going back to a final 24 format with separate performance episodes for guys and girls eliminating two a week until they are down to a final 12. No word on whether they'll have a 'judges save' this year like they introduced last year.
After a year off, "Idols Gives Back" is scheduled for April. |
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| 83 | TB
ID: 183351417
Wed, Apr 14, 2010, 18:35
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I thought Tim did a pretty good job, but that's compared to his body of work thus far. Lee or Casey's worst performance is still miles ahead of Tim's best.
I thought Lee was best of the night with Mike and Katie both giving good performances. Casey and Crystal were okay. Siobhan wasn't that good and hasn't done anything I've liked lately. The worst two for me were Aaron and Andrew and I hope they both go this week. I took a peek at dial-idol and it looks like they predict Mike, Crystal, and Casey as safe and the other 6 to be in the unsafe range.
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| 84 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Apr 16, 2010, 12:54
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I think Garcia was by far the worst. I figured he was gone for sure. I figured the next to worst was Aaron. I really wish they would only put the bottom four vote-getters in the bottom three. If not, they might as well release the votes for each player and that will never happen.
I thought Katie has been better than Siobhan. Didn't think it was her turn to go, but she's not a contender so not big deal that she's gone.
I think Lee and Crystal are probably the front-runners right now but Casey could be a darkhorse. I'm sure women dig his vibe and he has shown he can sing. Siobhan could get back in it if she could change things immediately. Mike is a longshot, but you just never know. The other two need to go forthwith.
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| 85 | sarge33rd
ID: 280311620
Sat, Apr 17, 2010, 07:31
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I think Lee and Crystal are probably the front-runners right now but Casey could be a darkhorse. I'm sure women dig his vibe and he has shown he can sing. Siobhan could get back in it if she could change things immediately. Mike is a longshot, but you just never know. The other two need to go forthwith.
What he said. :)
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| 86 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Apr 21, 2010, 17:48
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Dial Idol predictions suggest that Casey might go tonight.
To the extent that people vote via text messaging, this sampling technique is missing significant data. But it has still been a reasonably accurate predictor in recent weeks.
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| 87 | weykool
ID: 351422416
Wed, Apr 21, 2010, 19:11
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Tim was by far the worst last night.
Dont know if enough of the non VFTW votes have been consolidated at this point but we can only hope.
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| 88 | sarge33rd
ID: 280311620
Wed, Apr 21, 2010, 19:53
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I have to disagree WK. Tim has improved by quantum leaps since the seasons beginning.
Casey, Mike and possibly Shioban could be in trouble. (Though I think Aaron SHOULD be the one to go after last nights performances. His song choice was IMO, horrid. WAY too big for him and regardless what Randy says, he doesnt have the pipes for that tune AT ALL.))
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| 89 | Texas Flood
ID: 7101698
Thu, Apr 22, 2010, 08:17
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That cover of Stairway to Heaven was the worst performance of the
Idol season. Not even Vai could save it. Bilge not Blige!
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| 90 | sarge33rd
ID: 280311620
Thu, Apr 22, 2010, 08:24
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We quit watching it last night, about an hour in. The show had turned into the "Jerry Lewis Telethon meets PBS Telethon meets Homeless Guy on the Street".
More self-aggrandizing, I can barely imagine.
So...who got booted? lol
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| 91 | GoatLocker
ID: 568552610
Thu, Apr 22, 2010, 08:59
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Bottom 3 was:
Casey, Tim, Aaron
Aaron was sent back.
Tim was sent home.
And yes, my wife watched every agonizing minute of it.
I kept going to the computer.
Just couldn't set there and watch it.
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| 92 | weykool
ID: 351422416
Thu, Apr 22, 2010, 12:24
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#89....what about #77?
Have to agree with your MJB critique though.
I have heard of the Blackeye peas but had never heard them.
I will be forever scarred from this day forward.
Underwood was fantastic as always and Elton didnt dissapoint.....but everyone else was somewhere between bad and horrid.
Even Alicia Keyes was off key on some of her notes.
Tim has improved but not to the point of being idol worthy.
The only person who is really enjoying this season has to be Taylor Hicks....A very good chance someone will take away his title of "Worst American Idol winner Ever".
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| 93 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Apr 22, 2010, 17:37
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Not if Bowersox wins. Maybe not even if Lee wins.
If it's any of the others, then Hicks may be in a horserace.
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| 94 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Fri, Apr 23, 2010, 13:33
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Thank goodness I DVRed the show. Luckily, I started watching it before it was over and as soon as I heard it was running long was able to go in and record the ending.
Most of the singing was horrid. I kept skipping so much that I almost caught up with the live show. I'm fine with Tim going home. Yes he was leaps and bounds better, but the guy he replaced was so good that he may have been the AI winner. He truly got a bad deal. He even proved he wasn't under contract but AI said, sorry too late. But I digress. Point is, he should have never made the show in the first place but he seems like a great individual and has done better than I ever imagined. He had no chance of winning.
Best thing that happened to Casey was being in teh bottom three as he should get enough votes now to stay for at least another couple weeks now. I am so over Siobhan. Aaron is similar to Tim with a little better voice so his 15 mins is up for now. I'm still on the Lee and Bowersox bandwagon. I think Lee may be more commercial right now, but if Crystal can get around the right people, she could do wonders with her talent.
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| 95 | weykool
ID: 351422416
Wed, Apr 28, 2010, 20:43
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Very unimpressive night.
Bowersox and Lee were not very good at all.
If they keep up the current pace even they could give Hicks a run for his money.
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| 96 | JeffG
Dude
ID: 01584348
Thu, Apr 29, 2010, 09:06
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The theme weeks that they are coming up with are certainly not helping us see how potentially current and relevant the remaining contestants are. We've had Stones, Beetles, inspirational and Elvis already. Next week Sinatra.
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| 97 | Texas Flood
ID: 7101698
Thu, Apr 29, 2010, 23:07
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Well at least the screamer is gone! The theme weeks suck. They
were all great in their time but are no longer relevant to whats
going on in music today. Sinatra, what next Bing Crosby or Andy
Williams week, gag.
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| 98 | sarge33rd
ID: 280311620
Wed, May 05, 2010, 09:06
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after last nights performances, I wouldnt be terribly surprised to see Casey go. Sinatra just is NOT in his wheel-house.
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| 99 | Balrog
Dude
ID: 02856618
Wed, May 05, 2010, 10:47
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I'm starting to get the impression that Bowersox doesn't want to win if it means working for "The Man". She looked horribly uncomfortable in that dress.
She probably doesn't have to worry about it, though. I think Lee takes the win.
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| 100 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Wed, May 05, 2010, 15:25
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Re: 98 and 99
Agreed.
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| 101 | Texas Flood
ID: 7101698
Fri, May 07, 2010, 11:48
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It's pretty obvious that AI is about half way through the Shark
Jump. When Simon leaves next season it's over.
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| 102 | sarge33rd
ID: 280311620
Fri, May 07, 2010, 21:50
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agreed, 100%.
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| 103 | weykool
ID: 351422416
Fri, May 07, 2010, 22:04
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The shark Jump?
What exactly are they doing that is so outrageous?
Perhaps the show has run its course....but that is 100% different than looking towards outrageous gimmicks to keep viewers interested.
100% disagree with your take.
As long as millions of viewers like you keep turning in to "not watch" each week the show still has life.
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| 104 | TB
ID: 2417810
Sat, May 08, 2010, 11:17
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I continue to record and watch the show, but I don't even bother to listen to judges comments anymore and often fast forward through any singer who annoys me. This week, I watched both the Tue and Wed show in about 20 minutes. Horrible week for me.
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| 105 | sarge33rd
ID: 280311620
Sat, May 08, 2010, 19:32
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WTF do you call Lady Gaga if NOT outrageous????
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| 106 | Texas Flood
ID: 7101698
Sat, May 08, 2010, 19:48
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A Madonna Clone, but with less talent.
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| 107 | Skidazl
ID: 280401016
Sat, May 08, 2010, 23:45
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actually this was one of my favorite weeks in a while, minus the psycho madonna wanna be and the fact that siobhan is gone(i liked her sound when she didn't scream). Harry Connick is an absolute genius with incredible talent and a great sense of humor, not to mention a smokin' hot wife...
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| 108 | weykool
Leader
ID: 41750315
Sun, May 09, 2010, 02:55
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You can hardly blame AI for the popularity of Lady Gaga.
The fact that AI can still book popular acts like Gaga/Keyes/Twain/Black eye Peas is proof that they are nowhere near their shark jump.
When they start bringing on juggling acts or something equally outrageous then we can all agree they have run out of ideas and have reached the bitter end.
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| 109 | sarge33rd
ID: 280311620
Sun, May 09, 2010, 13:33
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who said I blamed AI for that? Doesnt mean they needed to book her on the show. Black Eyed Peas, pretty much blows too. Havent heard from anyone who watched/heard them, who thought they were worth a tinkers damn that night.
The show, and certainly Seacrest, have gotten WAY too full of themselves. With Ryan and Randy trying every week to proves "whose is biggest" so they can be the new alpha-male next season; has gotten REALLY old.
Ellen, has done a fine job of imitating Paula, in telling everyone, every week, how wonderful they are.
Kara, is still trying to justify her even being on the panel.
While Simon has this look in his eyes every week like, "isnt this season over with YET?"
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| 110 | TB
ID: 2417810
Sun, May 09, 2010, 14:11
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Add one more name onto the list who thinks the Black Eyed Peas should stick to making music in the studio and not play live, ever.
Lady Gaga has a nice voice but the stupid costumes and on-stage craziness detract from hersinging. A Madonna Clone, but with less talent. - lol, sounds about right
Kara I liked last season, but this year she is really the reason I can't listen to the judges anymore. She is so annoying and her "advice" is so erratic with each contestant. I think she talks just to talk.
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| 111 | Skidazl
ID: 280401016
Sun, May 09, 2010, 17:11
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"You can hardly blame AI for the popularity of Lady Gaga.
The fact that AI can still book popular acts like Gaga/Keyes/Twain/Black eye Peas is proof that they are nowhere near their shark jump.
When they start bringing on juggling acts or something equally outrageous then we can all agree they have run out of ideas and have reached the bitter end. "
Or having Adam Lambert as a mentor!!! It's over, IMO.
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| 112 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, May 09, 2010, 19:49
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I think all mentors should have to do what Connick did--or similar. You're not a mentor if you're Miley at 17 or one year removed from AI and not even winning the show. Loved what Connick did. Incredible. A real musical genius.
I am so tired of Secrest and the judges. Kara continues to try and prove to the world that she belongs and I dislike her more each week--if that's possible at this point. I'm tired of the lip synching on Wed. nights. There is a lot about Idol I don't like, but I watch it mainly because we DVR it and watch it quickly and skip a lot of it. If I missed a week, I wouldn't be upset at all. Kinda over it. Simon's show might be better next season.
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| 113 | Bond, James Bond
Leader
ID: 04352469
Tue, May 11, 2010, 23:04
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Casey has got-to-go...now! For some reason, he has regressed the last couple of weeks and his confidence is certainly no longer there.
The song selection tonight was wretched but this whole season is extremely subpar in that regard anyways.
By default, Crystal won tonight and should be safe. Lee showed some serious chink in his armor but compared with Casey and Big Mike, he should stay at least another week IMO.
Only positive for me (outside of Ellen's personal knowledge that she has loved a woman...LOL) was that the duets were hot.
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| 114 | TB
ID: 2417810
Wed, May 12, 2010, 01:02
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I only caught the latter part of the show. DVR decided not to record it for me tonight. I did get to see Crystal perform, it was okay, and the duet with Casey and Mike, which was pretty good. From the end of show summary, Casey sound okay to me. Lee didn't sound so good and Big Mike went back to a type of song that got him voted off the first time.
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| 115 | sarge33rd
ID: 280311620
Wed, May 12, 2010, 08:00
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The Lee-Crystal duet I thought was amazing. Their voices blended exceptionally well IMHO.
Too bad, but the duets were the high point of the show last night.
Flip a coin between Mike and Casey for who goes home this week. I dont think it matters much, because the other one should go home next week.
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| 116 | Nuclear Gophers
ID: 7115138
Wed, May 12, 2010, 17:52
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I dvr it also. The first thing I thought of when casey sang was Tiny Tim.
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| 117 | TB
ID: 2417810
Thu, May 13, 2010, 04:09
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I watched the results show in about 10 minutes. Watched the intro until the music. FF through the judges intro/babble and Sucktasia. Hit play when I saw Casey getting hugs to confirm he was safe. I was pretty sure Mike was going home already so that confirmed it. FF to Daughtry. Listen to his crappy balad for 20 seconds. FF to middle of song to see if it got better. It didn't. Play at end of song to hear him talk. Dude has such a great voice but wants to keep playing mello crap songs. Meh. FF to see Lee is safe. FF to Bon Jovi. Listen for 30 seconds. Bon Jovi sounds like crap. FF to see Mike is voted off. Play to watch his journey film. FF a little to get past the part where he is talking about his kid being born...way overplayed. Listen to him sing for five seconds. Delete and turn off TV.
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| 118 | Bond, James Bond
Leader
ID: 04352469
Thu, May 13, 2010, 23:41
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116.......LOL....Tiny Tim was exactly my first thought too.
117...Way to suck out ALL the enjoyment of results night! LOL This season is just wretched and I can't wait for it to end. When Simon is gone next year, over half the audience will be gone too. But I thought I read somewhere that Idol has already been signed up for a number of years. Does anyone know exactly for how long?
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| 119 | Texas Flood
ID: 7101698
Sat, May 15, 2010, 13:45
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Is it me or does Lee always look like a "Deer in the Headlights".
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| 120 | TB
ID: 2417810
Sat, May 15, 2010, 22:32
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It's not just you. Lee has that angsty look, like he is singing with passion when it's just how he looks. Caey sings with a big smile most of the time, so he obviously doesn't connect with songs because he should have that angsty look. Pain, anguish, and tearful are also acceptable looks to show how much you have really connected with the song.
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| 121 | Texas Flood
ID: 7101698
Mon, May 17, 2010, 20:06
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TB I was thinking more about when he's being interviewed than his
singing. He's seems to have this blank look all of the time. I
guess he just might be shy or just not have a lot of personality. I
kind of like his singing.
The whole show is off this year IMO, just not much chemistry.
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| 122 | Texas Flood
ID: 7101698
Wed, May 19, 2010, 15:38
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Lee stepped out of the headlights and delivered a great
performance of "Hallelujah" last night. Over the years I can
distinctly remember only two "Moments" on Idol. David Cook's
rendition of "Billie Jean" and Adam Lambert's "Mad World". Lee
may have topped both of those and sealed up the competition this
season.
Tonight say goodbye to Casey James.
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| 123 | weykool
ID: 351422416
Wed, May 26, 2010, 13:47
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Hallelujah was a good performace but it was nothing close to "A Moment".
I would take Jason Castro's rendition any day of the week and I didnt much care for anything else he did.
Could it be a case of so many so-so performances that when there was finally a good performance we want to make more of it than we should?
Normally on Idol there is a building of excitement but it seems mediocrity has let all the air out of the room.
I think both constestants will put out a decent album and have some sucess but I'm not seeing huge careers for either.
I dont really have a strong preference for either constestant.
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| 124 | Texas Flood
ID: 7101698
Wed, May 26, 2010, 16:17
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of course you would.
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| 125 | Bond, James Bond
Leader
ID: 04352469
Thu, May 27, 2010, 00:56
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Lee wins Idol..............ugh! America got it wrong again IMHO!
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| 127 | weykool
ID: 351422416
Thu, May 27, 2010, 12:35
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Bond:
Do you really think Bowersox was that much better than Lee to say America got it wrong?
I thought they were very close and can see arguments on both sides that either one deserved to win.
I thought most of the music last night was pretty decent....lots of big stars.
I would have loved to be in the room when they told Lee they were going to have Chicago play and we need you to sing some lead vocals.
Bringing Paula back to remind everyone why she is no longer a judge was probably the worst bit of the night.
Should be very interesting next season without Simon.
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| 128 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, May 27, 2010, 13:48
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I think Lee needed to win more than Bowersox.
She should do well, regardless.
I think his future career success is much more dependent on having the "Idol" title on his resume.
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| 129 | Bond, James Bond
Leader
ID: 04352469
Thu, May 27, 2010, 15:05
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127....perhaps not that much better per se but when you consider a contestant's body of work from beginning to end (at least the parts that Idol actually lets us see) then yes, I do believe that Crystal deserved/earned it more than Lee. Now, was there a huge chasm of talent between the two? No, I can't say that. At least not in the Adam/Kris vein of AI 8 where Adam got completely shafted from his due reward. But Crystal was better overall than Lee, at least to my ears anyway.
I harbor no ill feelings either way. Both are good and they may have a great careers. But I think it's just as likely that neither one of them pans out for an elongated career.
As far as Paula coming back.....my gawd, I had forgotten what a wonderful drunken stupor she was always in. Can't say I missed her at all this season.
As far as Simon is concerned, in my book, he's simply irreplaceable and his spot should remain empty. No matter who they get, that person will always be compared to Simon and that's just not right. Love him or hate him---and there's hardly any middle ground there---he has become a big part of American reality T.V. lore and in spite of his caustic, persnickety, snobbish and pretentious ways, he was the judge whose opinion was always held in the highest esteem.
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| 130 | TB
ID: 2417810
Thu, May 27, 2010, 18:31
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I really enjoyed the finale even though most of the older stars don't have much singing talent remaining. It was a nice trip down memory lane. Great send-off for Simon. I was a little disappointed for Crystal that she didn't win. It may not be a huge gap between her and Lee, but there is a gap. I agree with most of Bond's post. Now I am hoping they don't bring in a fourth judge for next season and just drop back to three judges.
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| 131 | Ref
Donor
ID: 539581218
Sun, Jun 06, 2010, 10:17
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128: This.
I wanted Lee to win. I like his style better. I think Crystal did better in the finale but she wasn't always better. I thought Lee had a lot of nice weeks and several better than Crystal overall. Crystal also had seveal weeks better than Lee. Being totally objective, I felt that the final week, tipped the scales ever so slightly for Bowersox--but I still liked Lee better.
The finale was great, esp. for us older people. The problem is that their largest target audience probably thought it was horrible because they're young and didn't know who anyone was.
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| 132 | Bond, James Bond
Leader
ID: 04352469
Fri, Jul 30, 2010, 00:12
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Looks like lots of changes will be made with Idol for the upcoming season. Not only has Simon left the building but Ellen will not return either.
Ellen leaves Idol
Supposedly, a major announcement will occur Monday and I wouldn't be surprised if the PTB'S just clean house and start over with a new slate of judges altogether.
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| 133 | GoatLocker
Leader
ID: 060151121
Sun, Aug 01, 2010, 13:04
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Most consistent rumors are:
Kara and Ellen both gone
Nigel Lythgoe back as producer
New panel
Randy Jackson
J-Lo
Steven Tyler
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