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Subject: Post Christmas 12/26 Trading
Posted by: Great One
- Donor [141172214] Wed, Dec 24, 2003, 13:34
I got all kinds of holes to fill and not enough trades to address it all... I am sure we are all in the same boat...
I pumped out a month long schedule breakdown which I will use as my pool of players, looking for some long term holds to help catch up on trades.
courtesy of Kafenatid.net
From 12/26 to 1/26 Best #s of games include
Team Total
CAR 17
PIT 17
NAS 17
DAL 17
NYR 17
TAM 17
COL 17
BUF 17
MIN 17
STL 16
SAN 16
OTT 16
NJD 16
LOS 16
CGY 16
VAN 16
CBJ 16
NYI 16
EDM 16
ANA 16
PHI 16
WAS 15
Obviously some of these teams have holes here and there in their schedules... but it gives me a starting point.
I know I gotta move any ATL players left, as well as Red Wings soon thereafter...
just wanna get the discussion fired up for Post holiday roster positioning. |
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| 40 | smallwhirled
Donor
ID: 4411541616
Tue, Dec 30, 2003, 11:50
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With the trades in your bank, I would move Ilya to just about anyone for RV purposes alone, he is guaranteed as a top loser today.
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| 41 | bookie
ID: 364442220
Tue, Dec 30, 2003, 11:54
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I only have 9... ;->
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| 42 | smallwhirled
Donor
ID: 4411541616
Tue, Dec 30, 2003, 12:16
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Oh, you held him bookie. Your call, but no wing IMO is worth a 120K drop with that many trades in the bank.
Even Nagy or Tanguay could've gotten you out of that loss.
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| 43 | bookie
ID: 364442220
Tue, Dec 30, 2003, 12:20
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He'll likely lose a little tomorrow on game day too.. The thing was, no one really jumped out at me as a must have that was in my price range (couldn't afford Forsberg)... I considered Guerin, but it was pushing the noon deadline, so I went with Guru's if in doubt rule... I had two of the top 5 losers today and still went up 130 in total.... Not too bad considering...
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| 45 | bookie
ID: 364442220
Tue, Dec 30, 2003, 12:22
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IMHO... It'll be worth it if he scores 80+ tomorrow... it's at Detroit, so odds are long, but he's a very dinamic player who can score at any point of a game...
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| 46 | smallwhirled
Donor
ID: 4411541616
Tue, Dec 30, 2003, 12:23
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I never mention Hossa because he's on my never again list.
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| 47 | bookie
ID: 364442220
Tue, Dec 30, 2003, 12:24
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Schmacky, the problem with the Sens is the balance that they have within there attack... It seems no matter which one I pick up, it's one of the others that scores...
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| 48 | Shmacky
ID: 1111522911
Tue, Dec 30, 2003, 12:24
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Ottawa has been a very hot team lately and are looking very good. I realize they have a 2 day break sun/mon but after that their sched rocks. Last I heard, they had a couple pretty good wingers.
(Sorry smallwhirled, had to edit thread 'cause I spelled Ottawa wrong. Don't want my citizenship revoked.)
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| 49 | Shmacky
ID: 1111522911
Tue, Dec 30, 2003, 12:28
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8th ranked wing and the 14th ranked wing on a stud team who have been underachieving all year, who look to be finally finding their groove.....
Maybe everyone's unwillingness will open the door to some gains. Then again, maybe all of you are right.
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| 50 | bookie
ID: 364442220
Tue, Dec 30, 2003, 12:33
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I actually traded out of Hossa yesterday to get Tkachuk.....
Seriously, Over the years, I've picked up Hossa, Bonk and Alfie and sometimes 2 of the three.. Without fail the one that I have is the lowest scorer of the three during the period that I hold them...
I don't have a never again list, but maybe I should start one...
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| 51 | smallwhirled
Donor
ID: 4411541616
Tue, Dec 30, 2003, 12:33
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No, they are tremendous players and tremendous TSN players, but Hossa is on my never again list which includes guys like Orlando Hernandez and stuff...players who just tend to suck when I have them.
Plus I also have a bias towards going with anyone other than a Naslund/Forsberg combo regardless of how cold they are. I'm just saying I like the chances of them beating the other options.
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| 52 | bookie
ID: 364442220
Tue, Dec 30, 2003, 21:17
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Schwabb hurt again, all the more reason not to sell Broduer....
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| 53 | J
Leader
ID: 49346417
Tue, Dec 30, 2003, 21:30
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why do they even HAVE a backup???? ;)
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| 54 | KWizard
ID: 308112720
Tue, Dec 30, 2003, 21:47
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Guys who have earned a spot on my never again list due to their ability to produce very little when I've picked them up over the past few seasons: Roenick, Amonte, Jokinen, Parrish, Lindros, Friesen, Havlat, Ryan Smyth, and any Hurricane player not named Weekes.
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| 55 | Irish Red
ID: 23112586
Wed, Dec 31, 2003, 11:35
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Doan to Datsyuk this morning.
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| 56 | Great One
Donor
ID: 141172214
Wed, Dec 31, 2003, 13:38
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that Datsyuk move could only be for a week... you have a lot of trades laying around?
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| 57 | Irish Red
ID: 269311812
Wed, Dec 31, 2003, 14:44
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I do plan to move out of Datsyuk next week, into Sundin for another short time, and then into Savard on the 8th. I then plan to hold Savard into February. My other slots are already holds until at least the 25th, with the exception of Gary Roberts, who will become Kovalchuk.
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| 58 | smallwhirled
Donor
ID: 4411541616
Wed, Dec 31, 2003, 15:16
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I'm a little screwed with Kippy now, got my money tied up into Sundin, Lang, Sakic, Forsberg, Naslund, Tkachuk, and Broduer, not much wiggle room there.
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| 59 | Great One
Donor
ID: 141172214
Wed, Dec 31, 2003, 18:39
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i think Datsyuk > Savard would work at the end of the week... wouldn't it?
I am moving Draper to Savard, thats why I mention it...
I took a flyer on Cheechoo (sounds like a moneyTrain) from SJ to free up some major $$$ and am happy so far. Just thought I would throw his name out there, I know we are always looking for new names.
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| 60 | Irish Red
ID: 23112586
Wed, Dec 31, 2003, 22:40
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Great One - Datsyuk to Savard would work, except that I am trying to avoid any dollar loss that Datsyuk will absorb after his B2B; and Sundin's games are against Pittsburgh and Nashville - hoping for big points. I do realize that the extra trade I am using might be wasted here, but I just have a hunch on those Sundin games.
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| 61 | Irish Red
ID: 23112586
Thu, Jan 01, 2004, 09:41
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I have slept on my planned Datsyuk - Sundin - Savard moves, and I have come to the same conclusion as you. The trade in and out of Sundin is not a good use of trades; I will be holding Datsyuk all the way to Savard. Thanks for the input!
Irish Red
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| 62 | Great One
Donor
ID: 141172214
Thu, Jan 01, 2004, 11:44
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you say that now - til Sundin goes off for 100+ points and you find my home address to come kill me! :) good luck, happy new year...
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| 63 | smallwhirled
ID: 4411541616
Fri, Jan 02, 2004, 11:51
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Lang > Datsyuk on all teams.
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| 64 | Richard
ID: 5410352713
Fri, Jan 02, 2004, 12:20
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I went Lang->Datsyuk and at the same time added Lang to my "never again" list. Don't know what I'll do later in the week when Detroit's schedule gets a bit light. Perhaps, I'll just ride out Datsyuk's price changes and keep him as a fixture at center.
Richard
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| 65 | smallwhirled
ID: 4411541616
Fri, Jan 02, 2004, 12:26
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Dastyuk > Savard sets up nicely IMO. I was actually pretty happy with Lang when I had him a month ago. He gets one more shot before he's in Hossa's class.
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| 66 | Shmacky
ID: 1111522911
Fri, Jan 02, 2004, 13:23
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SW, I was watching your team the other night when all your studs played. Ouch! They are definitely due.
This is messed up! I used to worry about the center position but now I'm staying put with Weight, Sakic and Morrison not knowing how I'm going to get Savard in that mix over the next 2 1/2 weeks. I guess the boys better buckle down, show up and score points or I won't hesitate to send 'em down. On team Smackrat we won't accept anything but their best!
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| 67 | Dr. Doom
ID: 3010331822
Fri, Jan 02, 2004, 13:28
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Thanks to Smackrat and a couple other I am stuck in 4th place in my division with a 72WWR team. I am much closer than a while back though, so keep an eye for me. Funny thing, I wanted to go to Datsyuk from Spezza today, but couldn't afford him, had to take Marleau.
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| 68 | bookie
ID: 364442220
Fri, Jan 02, 2004, 22:34
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Stupid job interview this morning... I missed out on the clarity of the how nicely Datsyuk -> Savard sets up... I did trade out of Lang, but went to Marleu.. Could have also traded Spezza for Datsyuk, but as I said, i didn't see it.. I made a whopping 10k today.
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| 69 | Shmacky
ID: 5411563021
Sat, Jan 03, 2004, 10:50
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Doooooooooooom, 2nd place and closing fast!
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| 70 | Dr. Doom
ID: 2203332
Sat, Jan 03, 2004, 10:59
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Must be something in the water here in Calgary this year.
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| 71 | Hershy
ID: 15033111
Sun, Jan 04, 2004, 11:53
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smallwhirled: Savard may not be the nice pickup anymore since he left yesterday's game early. Keep your ears open.
Savard left Saturday's game against the Canadiens in the second period after suffering a mild concussion, reports the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. The Thrashers hope that Savard won't miss any significant time but as is the case with concussions, you can never really tell.
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| 72 | bookie
ID: 364442220
Sun, Jan 04, 2004, 12:47
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Oohh that could be a blow for trading scheme....
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| 73 | R9
ID: 35111
Sun, Jan 04, 2004, 12:53
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Was wondering why he wasn't out there for the 3rd. The Habs were pounding him all night with big hits, in retaliation of Savard's elbow to Koivu.
He does have 4 days off now though, so he should have time to recover. Even if he doesn't, he'll just be that much more cheaper when he gets back. Those of you planning on Datsyuk -> Savard are hurt though obviously. My Sundin or Morrison -> Savard can be postponed a while though...
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| 74 | tommyd
ID: 21119279
Sun, Jan 04, 2004, 15:16
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Just saw reports Sakic will miss today's game and is day to day with a fractured bone in his jaw or something to that extent. Probable for Tuesday's game. Don't ask for a link because I don't have one just saw it on TSN. Apparetnly he took a puck to the face Friday.
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| 75 | MagicAbe
ID: 5091489
Sun, Jan 04, 2004, 15:32
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http://www.coloradoavalanche.com/news/currentdetails.asp?ID=95
Sakic Sidelined with Jaw Injury; Larsen Recalled
(1/4/2004)
Colorado Avalanche captain Joe Sakic will be sidelined day-to-day with a fractured jaw sustained Wednesday night in Calgary. He is listed as probable for Tuesday’s game against the Columbus Blue Jackets.
A further examination performed by the Avalanche medical staff revealed the need for a procedure to take place, which Sakic underwent on Saturday.
In a related move, forward Brad Larsen has been recalled from the Club’s American Hockey League affiliate, the Hershey Bears. In 21 games with the Bears to date, Larsen has notched four goals and 12 assists with 40 penalty minutes and a +9 plus/minus rating.
This marks the second recall of the season for Larsen, who played eight games in his previous stint with the Avalanche. He recorded no points on his prior recall and was forced to miss 10 games due to a groin injury.
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| 76 | Great One
ID: 141172214
Sun, Jan 04, 2004, 15:36
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Sakic> WHO?... ugh.
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| 77 | Filthy Rich
ID: 4946223
Sun, Jan 04, 2004, 17:35
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kariya might play tonight
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| 78 | MagicAbe
ID: 5091489
Sun, Jan 04, 2004, 17:54
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Sakic-->Tkachuk
Otherwise my team:
Team: MagicAbe Manager: MagicAbe
Total TSNP: 7428 World Rank: 8,084 ( 949) out of 230,322
Franchise Value Change: 290,000 League Rank: 3 ( 0)
Cash Left: 2,060,000 TSND Roster Value: 39,440,000 TSND
Trades Remaining: 1 ... buy more As low as 83 cents per trade! Next Trades Added: Wed 01/07
Your Team Trade History Finan. Report
Center Team Bought Cost Sell For: Change* Profit/Loss TSNP/G
Sakic, Joe COL 12/26 7.53M 8.25M 40,000 720,000 41
Winger
Recchi, Mark PHI 12/05 6.30M 5.99M -40,000 -310,000 34
Tanguay, Alex COL 01/04 6.78M 6.91M 130,000 130,000 38
Defenseman
Blake, Rob COL 12/26 6.12M 6.21M 20,000 90,000 32
Souray, Sheldon MON 12/05 2.29M 4.07M 20,000 1,780,000 28
Goalie
McLennan, Jamie CAL 01/01 1.04M 1.49M 80,000 450,000 45
Extra Attacker
Weight, Doug STL 12/27 6.08M 6.52M 40,000 440,000 42
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| 79 | Great One
ID: 24018320
Sun, Jan 04, 2004, 18:10
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I can work the Sakic-->Tkachuk move...
possible.
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| 80 | walk
Leader
ID: 32928238
Mon, Jan 05, 2004, 09:28
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Rotoworld says that Sakic intends to play tomorrow with a football style helmet and cites the Denver Post. However, when I go to the Denver Post, I don't quite see that story. Here is what is printed in today's Denver Post:
Sakic's Jaw
- walk
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| 81 | walk
Leader
ID: 32928238
Mon, Jan 05, 2004, 09:30
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Check that, Rotoworld cited the Rocky Mountain News, which indeed confirms that Sakic and the coach expect him to play tomorrow:
Rockey Mtn News Rpt on Sakic's Jaw
- walk
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| 82 | bookie
ID: 364442220
Mon, Jan 05, 2004, 09:55
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Pretty sure, I'm going Sakic -> Sundin to avoid tha sure losses, even though he'll play tomorrow
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| 83 | Die_Habs
ID: 53346218
Mon, Jan 05, 2004, 10:24
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Sticking with Sakic there is going to be A LOT of C trades lately if people play by the schedule.
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| 84 | bookie
ID: 364442220
Mon, Jan 05, 2004, 10:31
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I'm looking to make 3 this week due to schedules..
Sakic -> Sundin today
Marleue -> Comrie tomorrow, should be a huge money maker
Sundin/Spezza -> Weight on the 9th/10th
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| 85 | Little M
ID: 16593012
Mon, Jan 05, 2004, 11:50
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I'm going to stick with Sakic, because I don't like any of the alternatives. I already have Sundin and Weight. Lang is no longer scoring. Datsyuk has a bad long term schedule. Doan, Thornton and Roenick don't play the next two days. Savard and Modano are injured. I'll take the money loss if there is any from holding Sakic.
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| 86 | R9
ID: 35111
Mon, Jan 05, 2004, 11:51
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I'm going to hold Sakic. Next game is at Columbus, and the only guy I'd want to trade into is Comrie, and he's off for two days. (Already have Sundin.) I'll eat the losses.
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| 87 | Meik,kis
ID: 17036419
Mon, Jan 05, 2004, 11:57
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No need to trade Sakic. He´s playing and nice sched. Next games against columbus and nashville.
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| 88 | Little M
ID: 16593012
Mon, Jan 05, 2004, 12:07
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Sakic +70k when he is injured, then -160k when it is announced that he will play the next game. I'm never going to understand this game.
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| 89 | R9
ID: 35111
Mon, Jan 05, 2004, 12:12
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He plays tomorrow so his losses should be done. With Kariya coming back soon (maybe even tomorrow) he could end up being a great hold.
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| 90 | bookie
ID: 364442220
Mon, Jan 05, 2004, 12:36
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with as much as he lost today.. i would be surprised if he doesn't lose a little more tomorrow... Than even if he plays, he'd better score a few points to stop further losses the next day
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