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Subject: week 4 trades
Posted by: smallwhirled
- [41057112] Thu, Nov 03, 2005, 07:07
Post them if you want to...
Selling at some point this week:
Heatley
Spezza
Selanne
Still not sure on the exact day or who I want yet. |
| 1 | samuli
ID: 4593715
Thu, Nov 03, 2005, 07:32
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Sens' effort last night definitely made it difficult for me to pull the trigger on Heatley --> Gagne and Spezza --> Forsberg today as originally planned... Too bad that's practically the only way to fit those Flyers in in time for their bout against the Caps today. Hmmm... Might get Gagne as that's where the money is and leave Spezza be for a couple more matches.
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| 3 | The Dienasty
ID: 132591
Thu, Nov 03, 2005, 07:35
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Legace -> Os-hopehesreal-good
Spezza -> Forsberg
Heatley -> Gagne
No date on those yet. As great as Forberg and Gagne have been as a combination, Heatley-Spezza-Alfredsson looks like the second coming of Lemieux-Francis-Jagr.
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| 4 | The Beezer
Leader
ID: 191202817
Thu, Nov 03, 2005, 07:39
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Heatley -> Ovechkin
Selanne -> Gagne
Sticking to the plan. C'mon, it's the Flyers vs the Caps for crying out loud! Ovechkin will still get his 50pts or so but Philly might put up 10 goals of their own tonight against that awful defense.
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| 5 | walk
ID: 236779
Thu, Nov 03, 2005, 08:08
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Team A:
Chouinard > Forsberg (today)
Heatley > Gagne (TBD)
Spezza > Sakic/Staal/Lecavalier/Crosby (TBD)
Team B:
Heatley > Gagne (TBD)
Spezza > Sakic/Staal/Lecavalier/Crosby (TBD)
Prospal is on both teams; he's on the bubble for someone else like Tanguay/Hejduk/Ovechkin if TB slumps.
- walk
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| 6 | Tuques
ID: 57854126
Thu, Nov 03, 2005, 08:14
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No move for me, even if this means getting hit money wise, I can't convinced myself of selling someone who's playing tonight... I'll wait until tomorrow morning to sell my Sens guys... I don't see why you would go to Ovechkin tonight from Heatly, I would skip tonight and sell Heatly for Ovechkin tomorrow morning....
Tuques
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| 7 | He Shoots, He Scores
ID: 306162515
Thu, Nov 03, 2005, 08:31
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Holding off until Saturday to trade out of Spezza & Alfie. After last night it's hard to justify trading until Sat. I'm in the free league and only have 2 trades from this week so the longer I hold off the better.
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| 8 | urkel
ID: 289950
Thu, Nov 03, 2005, 08:35
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Was going to go
Spezza > Forsberg
Heatley > Gagne
today, but after last night (in fact, after the last 3 games) I'm going to hold until tomorrow. TB is for sure harder than WAS but Grahame wasn't exactly stellar in the last game, allowing 5 goals on 28 shots. Looking for this trio to continue their brutalizing of goalies in the new NHL.
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| 9 | Wild Vikings
ID: 339472112
Thu, Nov 03, 2005, 10:26
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Anyone else still got Hasek?
Really, Really hoping I can hold off on him till after his Saturday game. That way I can go Hasek->Legace.
The others are gone tonight after the games
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| 10 | chipsnbeer
ID: 35957301
Thu, Nov 03, 2005, 11:37
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I made the trades from Spezza, Heatley, Vorobiev to Gagne, Forsberg, Ovechkin
Lightening doesn't often strike twice, you might see 100pts in total from Ottawa's big three tonight
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| 11 | ny studs
ID: 577423110
Thu, Nov 03, 2005, 12:04
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keep telling yourself that chipsnbeer. lightning hasnt struck once. it strikes every game. just look at the last 3 games for these guys.
heatley: 154, 58, 127
spezza: 72, 64, 142
alfie: 111, 61, 252
together they average 6 points per game. why trade them now for some money?
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| 12 | chipsnbeer
ID: 35957301
Thu, Nov 03, 2005, 12:12
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there are leaders and there are followers in this game
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| 13 | smallwhirled
ID: 41057112
Thu, Nov 03, 2005, 12:23
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I think both moves are justified in this case. I'm still not sure what I'm going to do. Both have pros and cons.
These are not perfect schedule transitions, that is why there is the guessing game.
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| 14 | walk
ID: 236779
Thu, Nov 03, 2005, 12:42
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Right, well said SW. chipsnbeer, you may make a bit of money today on Gagne, but the bet you are making is that Philly will outscore Ottowa tonight. A valid bet, but it's almost a crapshoot. It's also a possibility that Gagne or someone on Ottowa gets hurt, and if it's a Gagne, I'd be awfully pissed that I traded into someone who got hurt from someone who also had a game on the very same day (and it's happened to me before). Many factors here.
- walk
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| 15 | Ira
ID: 568281417
Thu, Nov 03, 2005, 12:51
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I think I'll hold on to Spezza and Heatley through tonight..
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| 16 | chipsnbeer
ID: 55721617
Thu, Nov 03, 2005, 14:36
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walk ... it's always somewhat of a crapshoot when it comes to points ... an educated guess at best. What is certain is forcasting roster value increases ..... I wish investing in my RRSP's or my wife's 401k's were so easy.
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| 17 | chipsnbeer
ID: 55721617
Thu, Nov 03, 2005, 14:38
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oh and as far as injuries I won't touch that cause i think I pulled my groin reaching over the keys
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| 18 | walk
ID: 236779
Thu, Nov 03, 2005, 14:47
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Funny, chipsnbeer....Yes, it's a crapshoot for a single game's points, for sure. I guess I don't get a feeling that Gagne is going to soar tonight, but more like a decent pop, but I'd be surprised if it were 6 figures. So, I'm not compelled by the monetary gains, and I don't think the senator forwards are going to lose much, if any, $, so the trade is about "some" $ and a potentially higher score from Gagne vs. Heatley or Forsberg vs. Spezza. 50-50, I guess, so I'll hold. I could miss out on points and money if I'm wrong, but it's a conservative approach...for now.
thx, - walk
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| 19 | walk
ID: 236779
Thu, Nov 03, 2005, 17:00
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On the record...I moved Heatley to Gagne on one team and left Heatley as-is on the other...the wishy-washy approach.
- walk
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| 20 | smallwhirled
ID: 41057112
Thu, Nov 03, 2005, 18:00
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More deliberating, I am down to 2 ideas....
1)
Gagne > Heatley (today)......vs was, atl
Selanne > Hejduk (Nov 7).....@col, sj, min
2)
Heatley > Hejduk (Nov 6)......vs tb, nyi
Selanne > Gagne (Nov 5).....@col, sj
Gagne game vs atl
Both options are 5 games. I guess option number 1 makes more cash? Both are 5 game situations through Nov 7. I am sold on my "enders" of Gagne and Hejduk, I just have to figure out which combination I want.
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| 21 | The Dienasty
ID: 132591
Thu, Nov 03, 2005, 18:32
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I don't think the gains from Option 1 are enough to be a determining factor alone. I can't see a clear advantage in either case, so flip a coin ;)
Like most others im still debating wether or not to pull the trigger on one or both of my OTT players. Gagne's got more RV gain potential over Forsberg, making a Heatley trade more likely than one with Spezza if i do go with one move now and one later. But like i mentioned, i don't think it's enough of a gain to base the trade on that alone. Ownership of the two players (Gagne/Heatley) is about 500 apart, so trading for one night of differentiation is also a posibility. Then again, Heatley could go off for 3 goals or 6 the way he's been... But Gagne has big game potential too... Headache.
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| 22 | samuli
ID: 4593715
Thu, Nov 03, 2005, 18:40
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There's still like what, 20 minutes to come to a decision. I think I'll go ahead and grab both of the Philly-guys now, then cry later if need be.
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| 23 | smallwhirled
ID: 41057112
Thu, Nov 03, 2005, 18:41
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I did option 1 and went with Gagne early, we'll see.
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| 24 | The Dienasty
ID: 132591
Thu, Nov 03, 2005, 19:03
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Decided to hold off.... That and i forgot to make the trade and he's frozen. :|
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| 25 | urkel
ID: 33950610
Thu, Nov 03, 2005, 19:14
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I did the Heatley => Gagne trade on 1 of my teams, left him in there until tomorrow on the other.
That's why we have multiple teams, right? :)
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| 26 | smallwhirled
ID: 41057112
Thu, Nov 03, 2005, 22:09
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round 1, gagne wins this matchup. We'll see the next game.
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| 27 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Thu, Nov 03, 2005, 22:33
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but Staal beat the $h!T out of Spezza to counter
:(
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| 28 | CrazyClowns
ID: 37924214
Thu, Nov 03, 2005, 22:53
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Went
Kovalev = > Gagne and
Legace (aaaaaaaaaaargh) = > Auld
before the game
Spezza and Heatley must go saturday, looking at Forsberg and Crosby at Center. Not sure on wing, maybe Hedjuk.
Chouinard => Staal next wednesday, maybe sooner if Chouinard still sucks.
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| 29 | The Beezer
Leader
ID: 191202817
Fri, Nov 04, 2005, 00:50
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Well, Desjardins leaves with a concussion and keeps the pressure on trade-wise. The AP states he'll be evaluated Friday - stay tuned. Might see a lot of moves to Pitkanen or maybe even Staios if there's an issue.
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| 30 | walk
ID: 236779
Fri, Nov 04, 2005, 08:30
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Dang, I have Desjardins on two teams...have had for a while, and that's just a waste of a trade...I wanted to upgrade my D-men but not THAT d-man. Concussions do not bode well...the players are usually out longer than the estimates, not shorter (and rightfully so...). Desjardins has increased enough $-wise that this trade would need to be made if the prognosis is any missed time.
aaargh, - walk
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| 31 | The Dienasty
ID: 132591
Fri, Nov 04, 2005, 09:10
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Pitkanen looks like he could step right in and contribute, seeing that hell pick up whatever Desjardins left behind, PP time and all.
Worse for me, i may be out of trades come Saturday... At least i don't have to worry about getting "Legace'd"... Although there's always the chance of getting "Jagr'd", but the hockey gods wouldn't do that to me, would they?
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| 32 | Tuques
ID: 480492816
Fri, Nov 04, 2005, 09:34
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This morning I had to trade, this is what I've done...
Heatly => Ovechkin
Spezza => Koivu
Desjardins => Jovanosky
This leaves me with 3 trades, and I have to sell Selanne and Lupul tomorrow....
Tuques
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| 33 | Eric
ID: 1984422
Fri, Nov 04, 2005, 09:58
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So, Desjardins > ? Not enough money to Visnovsky, Pitkänen could be the one to consider.
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| 34 | Die_Habs
ID: 26211512
Fri, Nov 04, 2005, 10:40
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So it looks like no one is holding the ottawa players for the NYI game?
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| 35 | ny studs
ID: 577423110
Fri, Nov 04, 2005, 11:07
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i am
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| 36 | Joelis
ID: 389331817
Fri, Nov 04, 2005, 11:10
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Looks like we have some educated poolers here. Nice to see.
Anyway, I don't mind to see a little RV hit tomorrow, if that means less people will profit from Spezza and Heatly points against the Islanders.
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| 37 | C.SuperFreak
Sustainer
ID: 053771616
Fri, Nov 04, 2005, 12:33
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I'd just like to VENT for 1 second.
my team: 4 trades remaining.
Forsberg
Spezza
Crosby
Jagr
Prospal
Gagne
Heatley
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LEGACE!!!!!!!!!
How did I not catch that. Now I'm unsure if I should trade him or keep him.
thanks for allowing me to vent.
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| 38 | smallwhirled
ID: 41057112
Fri, Nov 04, 2005, 12:41
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Hold Legace, it may be too late. Sellers are Heatley and Spezza....Be more on top of things next time around. ;)
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| 39 | chipsnbeer
ID: 55721617
Fri, Nov 04, 2005, 13:43
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Forsberg and Gagne outpointed Spezza and Heatley by 131points last night. Their values increased them by 160k. If one was going to make that trade earlier or later it looks like earlier was the smartest move.
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| 40 | samuli
ID: 4593715
Fri, Nov 04, 2005, 14:03
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Personally, I'm glad I took the early route out. Of course things can change tomorrow but I'm still liking my odds with Flyers going against the Thrashers & Steve Shields.
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| 41 | J
Leader
ID: 049346417
Fri, Nov 04, 2005, 15:15
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Mike Dunham is back, so no more Steve Shields...hopefully!
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| 42 | samuli
ID: 4593715
Fri, Nov 04, 2005, 15:22
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Dunham today, Shields tomorrow.
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| 43 | The Beezer
Leader
ID: 191202817
Fri, Nov 04, 2005, 17:48
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Desjardins -> Pitkanen, best schedule, best opportunity, best $$$, plus his ownership is really low. Every other position is good schedule-wise so I'll take a D-train since I've got to move anyway.
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| 44 | Die_Habs
ID: 446102223
Fri, Nov 04, 2005, 18:51
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Chipsnbeer - or you could be someone who held onto your OTT players but never dropped your philly players. That = me.
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| 45 | The Dienasty
ID: 132591
Fri, Nov 04, 2005, 22:48
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Man... i KNEW i should have gone with Markennan instead of Osgood... It never fails...
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| 46 | smallwhirled
ID: 11012421
Sat, Nov 05, 2005, 10:37
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Selanne > Hey duke
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| 47 | Little M
ID: 46881516
Sat, Nov 05, 2005, 14:40
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I am wondering what to do with Spezza tomorrow. I already have Forsberg and Lecavalier. I would like to move to Staal, but with three days off, his schedule is not much better than Spezza's. I could make a short term move to Horcoff or Stoll and then to Staal on Wednesday, but I don't know if their points for two games would be worth the extra trade.
Anyone else in a similar position?
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| 48 | urkel
ID: 289950
Sat, Nov 05, 2005, 14:51
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How about Crosby?
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| 49 | Ira
ID: 421052513
Sat, Nov 05, 2005, 14:53
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Holy crap
-340K
why oh why did I hold on to Heatley, Spezza & Desjardins?
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| 50 | Little M
ID: 46881516
Sat, Nov 05, 2005, 14:57
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Re 48: I really want to move into Staal on Wednesday. Carolina has a great schedule starting then, with seven games in 12 days. I don't know if one game from Crosby would be better that two from Hercoff/Stoll.
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| 51 | Little M
ID: 46881516
Sat, Nov 05, 2005, 15:02
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Re 49:
The reason for holding Heatley and Spezza is the hope for big points tonight against NYI.
Desjardin? Sorry can't explain that one. You do know about his concussion, right?
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| 52 | samuli
ID: 4593715
Sat, Nov 05, 2005, 15:05
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Too many enticing centers, too few center-spots... I honestly wouldn't know what to do in that situation Little M, but I think getting rid of Spezza is essential. I think I'd turn him into Staal either today pre-freeze or if you want to play it "safe", tomorrow. I'm yet to figure out how I'll be able to get Staal, might have to boot Williams which I'd hate to do.
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| 53 | R9
Leader
ID: 02624472
Sat, Nov 05, 2005, 15:56
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Spezza -> Lindros (for his two games in Wash) -> Staal could work. That was my original plan, but I scrapped it when I didn't know who would be the #1 center in Toronto. Maybe take Sundin if you're feeling lucky...
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| 54 | The Dienasty
ID: 132591
Sat, Nov 05, 2005, 23:44
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Anger rising... Gagne goes crazy and im the only fool who hasn't moved Heatley for him yet... Goalies keep losing... Soon no trades left... Injuries sure to follow... *Head explodes*
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| 55 | smallwhirled
ID: 11012421
Sun, Nov 06, 2005, 09:23
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Desjardans injury may have been a blessing to my team. That trade was probably going to be used to upgrade Gleason. So now, while I'm stuck with him, I have a lot of extra cash, and can easily go to Legace when needed. If I would've made the upgrade, it would've been really close.
Sitting on 2 trades and I like my team a lot.
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| 56 | Little M
ID: 46881516
Tue, Nov 08, 2005, 17:55
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Salo to Whitney.
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| 57 | Caper
ID: 45458119
Tue, Nov 08, 2005, 18:31
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Naslund to Gagner
Nobody to Pitakonen
I honestly don't remember the name of the Florida defenceman I moved and I have another to go....
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| 58 | Ira
ID: 401017811
Tue, Nov 08, 2005, 19:15
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It was probably Van Ryn
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| 59 | urkel
ID: 33950610
Tue, Nov 08, 2005, 22:55
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WED
Lecavalier > Staal x3
Allison > Spezza
THU
Shannie > Alfie
Recchi > Heatley
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| 60 | urkel
ID: 33950610
Tue, Nov 08, 2005, 23:05
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one team is a dilemma, want to pick up Alfie or Heatley but would have to give up Zetterberg or Ovechkin to do it (Jagr and Gagne are staying no matter what!). Tough one! May need to go with Zetterberg.
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| 61 | R9
Leader
ID: 02624472
Wed, Nov 09, 2005, 00:32
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Wednesday I'm likely going to Visnovsky from my 500k cheapie-has-yet-to-play-an-NHL-game-but-still-on-my-roster-because-I-never-had-a-free-trade-to-move-him. (Now say that really fast!)
Thursday:
Shanny -> Heatley
Recchi -> Alfie
Williams -> Spezza
Later in the week:
Grahame -> Legace whenever he comes back.
Note: I'm 200k short to make these moves, what are the chances I make it up in all these spots before I have to move everyone? :( If I can't I have to bail on one of them, either Visnovsky or Legace. Of course Visnovsky is tomorrow, so I'm hoping some news is out on Legace to help me decide...
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| 62 | smallwhirled
ID: 14104579
Wed, Nov 09, 2005, 04:49
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Crosby > Spezza (11/10 I think)
Prospal > Heatley (11/12)
Cujo > Legace when the time is right after Legace has made his appearance
Gleason > Visnosky/Liles after I get Legace
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| 63 | samuli
ID: 4593715
Wed, Nov 09, 2005, 04:57
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Sens' schedule (3-3-3-2) remains very light up until crimbo, but I guess picking up a few is still imperative for one's success.
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| 64 | smallwhirled
ID: 14104579
Wed, Nov 09, 2005, 04:59
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These aren't set in stone at all, but I think I'm gonna go with a couple of them to continue the binge for RV. I would guess that they make a decent amount of cash.
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| 65 | The Dienasty
ID: 132591
Wed, Nov 09, 2005, 05:30
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Williams -> Spezza
Zetterberg -> Heatley
Osgood -> Labarbera/Legace
Grahame -> LaBarbera/Legace
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| 66 | chipsnbeer
ID: 35957301
Wed, Nov 09, 2005, 11:59
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even though the Sens have a light schedule their values will still skyrocket, it's what happened to Staal over the last couple of weeks
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| 67 | Ira
ID: 401017811
Wed, Nov 09, 2005, 12:32
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I'm not liking this Ottawa thing one bit..
I almost feel obligated to go to Spezza & Heatley (11 in 23) instead of Zetterberg & Datsyuk (11 in 20)
I'll probably go Grahame>LaBarbera on Friday..
As far as the Wings situation, isn't Osgood playing well enough that he won't sit out every game in the next 2-3 weeks?
Wouldnt LaBarbera be a safer bet, who has outright earned the job?
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| 68 | chipsnbeer
ID: 35957301
Wed, Nov 09, 2005, 13:20
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no Legace will get more starts than Labarbera guaranteed.
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