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0 Subject: Week 6 trades

Posted by: smallwhirled
- [171046162] Wed, Nov 16, 2005, 16:43

You know it, you love it, post your moves.
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82urkel
      ID: 289950
      Tue, Nov 22, 2005, 09:44
Thanks for that, tuques.

Shields is looking better and better as a replacement for Markkanen.

If he can be ANY improvement at all over Berkhoel, he will pick up wins in Atlanta, with the way Kovalchuk and Co. are playing, and he should have a lot of kicks at the can with the dense schedule Atlanta has over the next few weeks.

One caution's got to be Lehtonen's status though, wasn't he slated back around now? He'll have to play a couple of AHL games first I imagine, but it could make for a short-lived stint at #1.
83urkel
      ID: 289950
      Tue, Nov 22, 2005, 09:45
short-lived stint at #1 for Shields I mean.
84J
      Leader
      ID: 049346417
      Tue, Nov 22, 2005, 10:17
As a Thrashers fan, seeing Sheilds play 3 times this season, I would completely advise against it!!!!

Berkhoel is gonna get starts mixed in, and as bad as he's been (well, I shouldn't say he's bad, he's just not NHL-ready yet) I don't think Shields is any better.

He may win some 6-5 games, but he may also lose some 6-5 games.
85Ira
      ID: 401017811
      Tue, Nov 22, 2005, 12:07
man oh man...

Both my goalies (Kipper & Markkanen) got benched last night, and both their backups played excellent.

And I have Staal.

And I have 1 trade left.
86CrazyClowns
      ID: 5195166
      Tue, Nov 22, 2005, 12:50
IMHO, Kipper is a Keeper.

I have Markannen and if there were other cheap interesting options out there, he would be gone.

And Staal, well. I still advocate throwing him overboard, but since he's playing tonight, you probably will not see a huge selloff.
87chipsnbeer
      ID: 55721617
      Tue, Nov 22, 2005, 12:59
I traded away Kiprusoff after owning him since the streak started. They have two more home games then off to the road again for another stretch. He doesn't play nearly as well on the road and one reason Sutter went with Sauve last night. I went to Vocoun.
88Ira
      ID: 401017811
      Tue, Nov 22, 2005, 13:32
I went Staal>Demitra...

Once I get my new trades, I'll send Markkanen packin.. I just can't see him getting many starts in the near future with Morrison playing so well, and Conklin set to return.
89Tuques@formation
      ID: 3910562112
      Tue, Nov 22, 2005, 14:20
I just can't convinced myself that Demitra will outpoint Staal tonight, there is no dought in my mind that Demitra is going to make much more money gain, but Staal can outproduce Pavel....

I'll probably do the move with my last trade and one reason that would force me to do so is the fact that I have Hasek....

Tuques
90ny studs
      ID: 610502120
      Tue, Nov 22, 2005, 14:39
Given a choice of these Ducks, who would you choose: Lupul or Rob Niedermeyer?
91Die_Habs
      ID: 26211512
      Tue, Nov 22, 2005, 14:49
The question I want to ask is how else do you guys have @ centre?

On most of my teams I have demitra, savard and staal. I wanted to hold onto staal until his atl games, but now I don't really want to lose the RV.
92CrazyClowns
      ID: 5195166
      Tue, Nov 22, 2005, 15:30
Demitra
Thornton
Lecavalier
93caribou
      ID: 291027310
      Tue, Nov 22, 2005, 15:46
Conroy
Connolly
ConLecavalier

I like the con....
94Rick007
      ID: 23151226
      Tue, Nov 22, 2005, 16:11
Demitra
Thornton
Datsyuk
95The Beezer
      Leader
      ID: 191202817
      Tue, Nov 22, 2005, 17:17
Conroy
Connolly
ConSavard

I like your thinking caribou...
96Ira
      ID: 401017811
      Tue, Nov 22, 2005, 17:51
Demitra
Thornton
ConSavard :)
97smallwhirled
      ID: 3010352217
      Tue, Nov 22, 2005, 18:37
Forsberg
Savard
Demitra
98smallwhirled
      ID: 3010352217
      Tue, Nov 22, 2005, 18:42
For Markannen, I have a pegged sell after his @cgy game on the 25th. I don't really have much of a use for him anymore after that game, his sked kinda goes downhill from there.
99The Dienasty
      ID: 132591
      Tue, Nov 22, 2005, 19:35
Bergfors
Vardsav
Roycon
100J
      Leader
      ID: 049346417
      Tue, Nov 22, 2005, 19:48
Conmetra
Convalier
Conezza
102walk
      ID: 61049120
      Tue, Nov 22, 2005, 21:51
Oh! I just watched the best shootout ever. Rangers beat Buffalo 3-2 in which every shooter scored except the last one. Buffalo even changed goalies (Noronen to Biron) during the shootout due to injury. It was sooo very cool.

- walk
103The Dienasty
      ID: 132591
      Tue, Nov 22, 2005, 22:00
Ok, i need Pavol Demitra on my team. I was 30K from glory... Just 30-stinkin'-K... Ugh.
104R9
      Leader
      ID: 02624472
      Tue, Nov 22, 2005, 22:20
Nice shootout in Mtl too, Theo stoned 3 straight Thrashers and Pierre Dagenais scored to win it. Lets repeat that, PIERRE DAGENAIS scored. Wtf was he doing in the shootout? was all I could ask, right up until he scored. Guess thats why I'm not an NHL coach... ;)
105 bar
      ID: 3710351811
      Tue, Nov 22, 2005, 22:49
Created a goal estimation calculator maritechnologies.com/hockey Based on average goals for and opponent's average goals against.
106CrazyClowns
      ID: 37924214
      Tue, Nov 22, 2005, 23:04
Dagenais has got a hell of a shot. Problem is that he just cant skate and he cant use his big body. I mean when the zamboni is clearing the ice after the game, they have to zig zag around him. He had a good season two years ago, but he's no longer able to keep up with the new rythym.
107The Dienasty
      ID: 132591
      Tue, Nov 22, 2005, 23:46
I think I'm going to have to move Forsberg for Demitra when we refresh. Demitra's got stupid money coming his way from all sorts of Centers... Foppa's just taking up too much of my funds right now.

That means ill be running with 4 Kings, possibly 5 if LaBarbera factors himself into the mix. I don't think that's too many conisdering the type of high scoring team LA has. They also have a favorable schedule until 12/10. It'll feel almost like old times where one hot team would command 5 or even 6 of your teams spots at any given time.
108Ira
      ID: 401017811
      Wed, Nov 23, 2005, 00:31
I'm hopin LaBarbera gets back so I can move Markkanen to him, and then upgrade Vorobiev (yes, I still have him).


Although with Garon's play lately, I can't see LaBarbera getting the majority of the starts in the near future..
109Ira
      ID: 401017811
      Wed, Nov 23, 2005, 01:00
Geez. Every day I have a real high price gainer, and then had a real high price loser to even it out.

eg. Tonight: Demitra +160K, Markkanen -90K, Kiprusoff -30K.

If I only had my gainers, my team would have gained 300K. But nooooo, I end up with 150K.
110samuli
      ID: 17925182
      Wed, Nov 23, 2005, 06:03
I'm not in a hurry to get rid of Staal, seeing how the previous "mass-hysteria" (dumping Jagr in the middle of his sweet stretch of schedule) worked out for those who did it (I aknowledge that individual situations might vary and that some managers might have gained points as well as $ as a result of that trade, but looking at the numbers, Jagr has accumulated 472 TSNP in his last 6 games).

I have Savard and Demitra, and see no one I'd like to replace Staal with. But if push comes to shove, I might move back to Spezza or Forsberg eventually.
111Die_Habs
      ID: 26211512
      Wed, Nov 23, 2005, 07:43
Moved into Ray Emery from Abesicher(bum), going with the cheap d-men approach except in my goalie slot.

I was able to upgrade Ehrhoff to McCabe. I have more confidence in this approach then trying to find a goalie.

Holding Staal. Not making any money the last week or so for some reason.
112Tuques@formation
      ID: 3910562112
      Wed, Nov 23, 2005, 09:14
This morning after baching my head into the wall for 45 minutes, I decided to go from Staal to Demitra, if I could have done it yesterday instead, I would have got the money and the pts, at least Staal procuded a little....

Tuques
113urkel
      ID: 289950
      Wed, Nov 23, 2005, 09:49
I also had Staal, Demitra, and Savard, and will also be holding Staal. No compelling alternatives at the moment, especially when Staal is doing fine.
114urkel
      ID: 289950
      Wed, Nov 23, 2005, 09:57
I wonder if Grahame is still the #1 in TB?

I hate the goalie slot this year. I might end up going to Emery also.
115urkel
      ID: 289950
      Wed, Nov 23, 2005, 09:57
Markkanen > Emery that is.
116CrazyClowns
      ID: 5195166
      Wed, Nov 23, 2005, 11:04
Burke is getting more and more starts and he's doing rather well. Cookie Graham has been on my roster 3 times so far this year, and I hope I wont make the stupid mistake of taking him another time.

Anybody thinking about Joseph? He's not a very sexy pick, but he gets most of the starts and gets the job done.

Desjardins: Jump aboard? He should be good for a 500k plus gain, even if Philly schedule is not the most exciting. Might trade Redden out, which would allow me to free some money to move out of Markannen tomorrow.
117Tuques@formation
      ID: 3910562112
      Wed, Nov 23, 2005, 11:20
What is the big deal about Emery?? Ottawa's sched is not the best for the next couple of weeks, so why would people jump a backup goaly with a bad schedule???

Tuques
118Die_Habs
      ID: 26211512
      Wed, Nov 23, 2005, 12:12
Tuques - Its a place holder right now, forunately Emery will get some starts and he is undefeated to date.

The strategy and thinking is that since it has been more difficult to find pts out of goalies this year, to utilize one goal spot for a cheapy 500k player (in this case emery) and spend the dollars elsewhere to gain more points.

119Tuques@formation
      ID: 3910562112
      Wed, Nov 23, 2005, 12:38
This strategy reffers to what I was saying before the beggenning of the season... See this thread : link

Tuques
120caribou
      ID: 291027310
      Wed, Nov 23, 2005, 14:05
Tuques, you had it all planned out right from the beginning !
121Die_Habs
      ID: 26211512
      Wed, Nov 23, 2005, 14:06
Tuques - you are correct. I had read that thread but did not remember that you started it. Going to test this out and see what happens, emery is the best 500k option out there.
122R9
      Leader
      ID: 02624472
      Wed, Nov 23, 2005, 14:30
Just made this move:

R9 -> smallwhirled

I like the longterm production better, and the track records obviously makes this a no-brainer.







!!!
123walk
      ID: 236779
      Wed, Nov 23, 2005, 14:37
Yeah, except you'd have to tolerate a few hangovers here and there...aaaar. Nice trade!

I guess, for now, I'm holding.

- walk
124smallwhirled
      ID: 3010352217
      Wed, Nov 23, 2005, 18:08
I think I'm also doing the Emery plan. I'm in no man's land in too many places with any other combination, and believe me, I've worked out a ton of them. This makes the most sense for me, it will be a trade saver too. Once I get tired of Gerber, which may be soon, hopefully I'll be able to get something pretty decent from that point. At least I'll be able to go 3 stud Dmen now, real stud Dmen (getting rid of over the hill Lidstrom).
125Ira
      ID: 401017811
      Wed, Nov 23, 2005, 19:43
Once Labarbera returns, wouldn't he be a better version of Emery?

He's around the same price, and will like twice as many games...
126CrazyClowns
      ID: 37924214
      Wed, Nov 23, 2005, 20:47
Gaborik is back, already 1g, 1a throught the first period.

Starting next wednesday, is schedule gets pretty hot, while a lot of other team's go downhill. For 5M$, he should be a very nice pickup.

127Ira
      ID: 401017811
      Wed, Nov 23, 2005, 21:16
Jagr>Hossa on Sunday
Jagr has a 4 day break, but then the Rangers have a 6 in 10...

Prospal>Gaborik on Sunday
Prospal will have 4 in 16, and Gaborik will have 11 in 21.


Ottawa has a 6 day break next week, so I'm movin Markkanen to Labarbera
128The Beezer
      ID: 16913307
      Wed, Nov 23, 2005, 21:51
Important note: due to the hurricane reschedule, Ottawa does not have a 6 day break, since they play Florida on 12/3. FYI.
129Ira
      ID: 401017811
      Wed, Nov 23, 2005, 21:54
1 in 5 is still brutal..
130C.SuperFreak
      Sustainer
      ID: 053771616
      Wed, Nov 23, 2005, 22:35
An ugly night pointwise, not a good way to end to Week 6. In no particular order here are my decisions for Week 7:
- Which goalie to move into
- What to do with Jagr
- Ottawa or Philly
131CrazyClowns
      ID: 37924214
      Wed, Nov 23, 2005, 23:25
Jagr is easy:
Out and In, since it will likely be a 500k loss, especially when you consider that you dump him on a saturday. At this point, I'm willing to sacrifice a trade for the RV. He's gonna represent a whole chunk'o'trades come sunday and monday.

Ottawa and Philly? I would say neither, unless you currently have some on your roster, which I doubt. Too much volatility for too few games. I could see hanging on to Pitkanen, but at the first sign of trouble, he's gone (or would be since he's not on my team). I just picked up Desjardins for the $$$ and maybe decent cheap-d points.

Goalies? Beats me. I'm even looking at Joseph at this point...
132smallwhirled
      ID: 3010352217
      Thu, Nov 24, 2005, 10:06
How crazy is a team goalie situation? Emery + Hasek is 7.61 right now, but that would pretty much lock in goalie letting me play around with my other 10 spots more frequently.....
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