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Subject: Week 7 Trades
Posted by: Ira
- [401017811] Wed, Nov 23, 2005, 23:41
well, that Pitkanen drop totally caught me off guard.. I guess I wasn't paying enough attention to expect it.
I guess I'll go Pitkanen>Visnovsky for long term.
Jagr>Hossa on Sunday (Or do we make in Saturday?)
Jagr has a 4 day break, but then the Rangers have a 6 in 10...
Prospal>Gaborik on Sunday
Prospal will have 4 in 16, and Gaborik will have 11 in 21.
Ottawa has a 1 in 5 stretch next week, so I'm movin Markkanen to Labarbera.. |
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| 55 | The Beezer
ID: 16913307
Sat, Nov 26, 2005, 08:17
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Differentiating from the world by going for higher priced goalies. Kipper -> Belfour along with Vokoun. Hopefully some options will clear up before both of these guys have to go. 7 trades left.
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| 56 | Tuques
ID: 480492816
Sat, Nov 26, 2005, 09:13
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Legace => Belfour
Prospal => Frolov
Tuques
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| 57 | Destroy*
ID: 35958308
Sat, Nov 26, 2005, 12:30
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I missed the lunch deadline yesterday and was obliged to do around 6h30pm :
Jagr-->Svatos (instead of Gagne or Heatley) got lucky in points but not in $$$
And had to go
Cloutier-->Belfour (Instead of hasek do not know te result yet in points and not good in $$$)
Beginner's mistake...tabarn%?$?%//"(...
maybe good long term...we will see...
I still have Prospal but only 1 trade left...what should I do?
(I have Svatos, Kovalchuk, Bertuzzi and Prospal)
Anybody knows if labarbera is going to play more then Garon?
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| 58 | urkel
ID: 289950
Sat, Nov 26, 2005, 12:40
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43:
I too got screwed by PHI and OTT early games. I also went Jagr > Tanguay. What a horrible situation, ended up with less than 100 TSNP on all my teams last night. :0
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| 59 | samuli
ID: 4593715
Sat, Nov 26, 2005, 14:30
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With 7 minutes to play in the 1st, Forsberg hasn't been on the ice yet.
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| 60 | chipsnbeer
ID: 55721617
Sat, Nov 26, 2005, 17:36
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Good news all 5 of the teams I had to start the season with are in the top 50 in the world, inc. 3rd & 6th.
bad news I have Legace on all of them with no trades left.
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| 61 | samuli
ID: 4593715
Sat, Nov 26, 2005, 17:50
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Being 1 goalie short for 5 days won't make much of a difference as far as your TSNP is concerned. You'll take a hit in RV but that doesn't seem to be your top-priority anyway. I wouldn't worry about having to keep Legace.
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| 62 | chipsnbeer
ID: 55721617
Sat, Nov 26, 2005, 18:04
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I agree about rv not making that much of a difference. In years past to get to that critical 70-75m (to be able to field any team you want)it took a good player to reach it in March. This year most should make it by New Year.
I have had amazing luck with goalies this year, I usually get them with a "gut feeling" and the luck just takes off. 28 wins and 8 shutouts later I feel my luck has run its limit. Now if I could only figure out how to get points from my defence.
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| 63 | Dr. Doom
ID: 232152517
Sat, Nov 26, 2005, 18:21
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I've had amazingly bad luck with goalies, now I am 700 points behind chips but I have no Legace and 4 trades, it's still a long way to the end we'll see what shakes out.
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| 64 | C.SuperFreak
Sustainer
ID: 053771616
Sat, Nov 26, 2005, 18:47
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My 3 teams where beginning to look very similar. I have decided to throw out my cookie cutter approach and go with 3 different goalies for the Legace cast-off. Vokoun, Hasek, and Garon. Each goalie should get 4 starts in the next 10 days.
I took my lumps earlier when Legace went down and wasn't about to get burned a second time.
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| 65 | chipsnbeer
ID: 55721617
Sat, Nov 26, 2005, 19:13
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Take care guys I am meeting some friends at Shanks on MacLeod
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| 66 | The Dienasty
ID: 132591
Sat, Nov 26, 2005, 22:49
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Went Legace -> Garon.
Instinct move at the last second... I figure if LA's going to rotate in goal, then Garon gets both Chicago games while Labs is saddled with Detroit.
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| 67 | chipsnbeer
ID: 55721617
Sun, Nov 27, 2005, 13:21
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Yep Doom it's a long way, and fyi One year I had a 2500pt lead in my division by the midway point and blew it so you can catch me in no time.
SuperFreak I think I will do some of the same mixing on my teams after the next set of trades.
Dienasty thats not a bad idea at all. I haven't had great luck with goalies lately so I will keep my eye on that one.
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| 68 | Ira
ID: 401017811
Sun, Nov 27, 2005, 14:51
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I'm really sinking in the standings, went from top 300 to 450+....
And price changes are brutal for me in the past week. I still have Prospal. But after the game tonight he's going to Gaborik. I just couldnt trade him to Gaborik until tomorrow, it just wouldnt have made sense.
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| 69 | Destroy*
ID: 35958308
Sun, Nov 27, 2005, 14:58
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Ira, I agree with you regarding Prospal...
will move him to gaborik too after tonight...
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| 70 | smallwhirled
ID: 171046162
Sun, Nov 27, 2005, 16:34
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I decided on Forsberg > Staal today. I'm just not 100% sure that Forsberg is okay right now. I can be aggressive, rather than passive, right now for the first time in a while. Carolina's sked is about as good as you can get this side of obviously Atlanta and still LA.
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| 71 | Ira
ID: 401017811
Sun, Nov 27, 2005, 22:44
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After a really crappy week I finally have a good night.
348 TSNP and Svatos is still playin...
I'm glad Prospal got a couple points, atleast he wasnt a total loss...
AND WE WON THE GREY CUP!!
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| 72 | caribou
ID: 291027310
Mon, Nov 28, 2005, 07:31
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What a great Grey cup game...double OT...and the Als lost.
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| 73 | C.SuperFreak
Sustainer
ID: 53771616
Mon, Nov 28, 2005, 16:05
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Barring an injury, my last move of the week:
this afternoon: Prospal > Gaborik
I'll start the feeding frenzy.
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| 74 | The Beezer
Leader
ID: 191202817
Mon, Nov 28, 2005, 17:22
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Prospal -> Gaborik for me too. That should do it for this week for me.
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| 75 | caribou
ID: 51062721
Mon, Nov 28, 2005, 18:12
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So many moves for me since this week end, had 6 trades....and they are all gone....Am I Tradeholic...no wonder I'm doing so poorly this year. For once I had kept my trades....not any more. I traded according to this weeks schedule.
Lecavalier > Spezza
Prospal > Heatly
Cole > Frolov
Brisebois > Vishnovsky
Legace > Biron (very hard to pick Goalies, i've been looking at goalies all day)
Jagr > Palfy
was looking at Gaborik early sunday morning, but considering he was only playing next wednesday, I did not trade for him. Last time, i picked him on his comeback and he got injured that game !
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| 76 | walk
ID: 4110372512
Tue, Nov 29, 2005, 07:48
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Oy, this has been an awful week for me. The injuries just killed me, killed me. Legace, Turgeon and now Forsberg for sure. Even he plays Saturday @ Nashville, that translates to a 1 in 7...blah. I am selling Forsberg on at least one team, with my last trade to Spezza, who has a 4 in 7. I am either going to have subsequently move Spezza for the 1 in 6 and lose the FLA game to avoid his losses (I'd expect about $400k drop from wherever he ends up over the next 3 games/4 days based on previous Ottowaian/Spezzian sell-offs this year) or just eat his losses. The losses would be preferable to Forsbergian losses that also accompany a complete lack of points. No good.
On this one team, I had already acquired Gaborik. On my other team, which has but 1 trade (thanks to have Legace, Turgeon and Foppa), I have to [b]decide between moving Forsberg to Spezza or holding Foppa and moving Gagne to Gaborik.
This week this game has just killed me. I was in very good shape trade-wise, too, and the injuries. The great and evil equalizer.
- walk
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| 77 | Caper
ID: 3510101810
Tue, Nov 29, 2005, 13:04
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Moved Zetterberg to Iggy today. Sitting on Auld and Graham in the nets with 1 trade left. I think I will wait and watch a little........
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| 78 | smallwhirled
ID: 171046162
Tue, Nov 29, 2005, 15:56
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With the injury to Foppa (decline in value of Gagne)....
Gagne > Gaborik (11/30)
Alfreddson > Jagr (12/3)
2 days late for money gains on Jagr but I get 2 Alfie games vs. what would be 1 Gagne and 1 Jagr. Had Foppa not gotten hurt I probably would've taken the money.
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| 79 | Caper
ID: 3510101810
Tue, Nov 29, 2005, 16:08
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I will be going:
Heatley to Jagr on the 1rst for the money and points. I would rather have 2 Heatley games and then Jagr but I want the easy money. It is not a smart thing to do as it costs me a game.....
I may change my mind by then
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| 80 | smallwhirled
ID: 171046162
Tue, Nov 29, 2005, 16:43
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Not worth it, that is a direct loss of games that is not being picked up somewhere else. I'd only consider money trades if you get equal stud games. In this case, you don't, so don't do it.
12/3 is your date.
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| 81 | Caper
ID: 3510101810
Tue, Nov 29, 2005, 16:57
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That is probably where I will end up. Thanks for the input....
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| 82 | smallwhirled
ID: 171046162
Tue, Nov 29, 2005, 17:10
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If you had Gagne AND an Ott player, with a little extra cash in the bank.....
Ott > Gaborik (11/30)
Gagne > Jagr (12/1)
will net the most amount of RV and both be worth 8 player games. Food for thought, I have this combo, but I'm going with more Alfreddson games with the absence of Foppa.
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| 84 | The Dienasty
ID: 132591
Wed, Nov 30, 2005, 08:54
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Gagne -> Gaborik 11/30
Heatley -> Jagr 12/3
I'm thinking potential gains north of $200,000 for Gabs tonight... And although i don't like giving up the Gagne game, Philly plays New Jersey who's won 3 in a row allowing 2 or fewer goals in each game. If anyone's going to stiffle a Forsber-less Flyer team, it may be them. Gagne's price has nowhere to go but down, either. Mo money. I'll miss out on two days of Jagr gains, but i want those Heatley games too.
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| 85 | Tuques
ID: 301044298
Wed, Nov 30, 2005, 08:54
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I don't see why you would trade Heatly today, he has 2 games comming before the long break and only one day before there 2 games, I can understand after the B2B....
So far this morning I did Bondra => Gaborik and I'll probably dump Frolov to Jagr tomorrow morning and dump Heatly on Sat for I don't know who... I've just notice that I could go Heatly to Jagr on Sat in the morning but I can't miss on the easy money...
Tuques
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| 86 | The Dienasty
ID: 132591
Wed, Nov 30, 2005, 09:02
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Tuques, if you were referencing the post i deleted, don't worry, i gained some sence am preparing to take an alternate approach.
Forecasting even farther ahead, i think ill be going to Hasery/Emerasek when the time comes too.
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| 87 | Joelis
ID: 389331817
Wed, Nov 30, 2005, 10:12
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Wow, you guys have some tough choices there.
I must have set myself up well for this week, since I was able to go Zetterberg -> Gabby yesterday, and tomorrow I'll go Gagne -> Jagr, just like it was set up to be.
:)
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| 88 | walk
ID: 236779
Wed, Nov 30, 2005, 11:54
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Yeah, I went to Gaborik on one team earlier in the week (from Bertuzzi), but on my other, I have to wait until 12/3 as I had to burn 3 of my trades on injured players leaving me tradeless to make a Gange --> Gabby today (which was in the works until I felt I had to unload Forsberg yesterday). And, tomorrow does not represent an optimal day to acquire Gaborik from Gagne; Jagr from Gagne makes more sense...
Gaborik from Alfie/Heatley on Dec 3rd for my other team.
- walk
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| 89 | Ira
ID: 401017811
Wed, Nov 30, 2005, 12:20
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12/02
Thornton>Staal
12/03
Svatos>Jagr
Kiprusoff>???
I'll have approx. 8.1mil left for a goalie, and Calgary doesn't have a good schedule, after Pittsburgh, they have 3 in 13, and 2 of those teams are Phi & Ott.
Who's my best option for the next few weeks? Gerber? Dipietro? Vokoun? Osgood?
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| 90 | chipsnbeer
ID: 55721617
Wed, Nov 30, 2005, 15:09
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Vocoun is the way to go
I already own him and Legace too. I am really not wanting to trade Legace because there aren't too many options.
I have to trade Svatos and Liles tomorrow, I think I might go
Svatos ---> Gionta
Liles ---->Rozsival
But if I do use another trade on Legace, I could go with a cheaper goalie.
Svatos ----> Jagr,Frolov, Gaborik
Liles -----> Zidlicky
Legace ----->Labarbera
Still have to tade Spezza and Heatley later on so I hate to use all my trades.
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| 91 | Dr. Doom
ID: 387231512
Wed, Nov 30, 2005, 15:17
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I was supposed to get Vokoun yesterday, but alas work got in the way. Oh well, next.
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| 92 | smallwhirled
ID: 171046162
Wed, Nov 30, 2005, 15:23
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Lidstrom > McCabe last night
Gagne > Gaborik today
Alfreddson > Jagr 12/3
nothing else planned.
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| 93 | Die_Habs
ID: 26211512
Wed, Nov 30, 2005, 15:45
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Gagne > Gaborik x3 today.
Healthy/Affie > Jagr 12/3
Like smallwhirled, I don't have any more moves planed. OMG maybe i can bank some trades now!
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| 94 | walk
ID: 236779
Wed, Nov 30, 2005, 16:07
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Gagne > Jagr x2, 12/1
Alfie > Gaborik, 12/3 (already have Gaborik on other team)
Considering holding Spezza and Heatley for 1 in 6, but not sure.
Can't get into TSN right now to see my teams...down for anyone else?
- walk
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| 95 | Die_Habs
ID: 26211512
Wed, Nov 30, 2005, 16:11
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not working here either.
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| 96 | TT
ID: 1810143015
Wed, Nov 30, 2005, 16:18
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I elected to go Alfredson --> Gaborik today. And then Gagne --> Jagr tomorrow.
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| 97 | walk
ID: 236779
Wed, Nov 30, 2005, 16:43
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Wow TT, trading 2 Alfie games for 2 Gaborik games, one of which is Minn at Nashville, all for the $. Interesting.
- walk
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| 98 | walk
ID: 236779
Wed, Nov 30, 2005, 16:43
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back in at TSN, by the way...,
- walk
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| 99 | smallwhirled
ID: 171046162
Wed, Nov 30, 2005, 17:18
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Walk, I was gonna do that trade until Foppa went out with injury. Maybe Gagne will go nuts again tonight....
But it is still the same number of games either way, with more RV for the sequence of trades TT is doing. Same thing, just different players.
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| 100 | smallwhirled
ID: 171046162
Wed, Nov 30, 2005, 17:21
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What I mean by different players is different players playing the games.
Whichever combo he does, gives him 6 games, regardless, from the 2 spots. Thru 12/3, which is the relevant sample because both scenarios have the same players by 12/3.
Haven't we gone over this already, at another place. ;)
His:
1 Gagne
2 Jagr
3 Gaborik
Ours:
3 Gaborik
2 Alfie
1 Jagr
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| 101 | walk
ID: 236779
Wed, Nov 30, 2005, 17:52
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Funny, yeah, I see it. Different situation for each individual manager are going to dictate that kinda wash-out for the $ gains move. For me, I was the under the presumption that Gagne would be stifled without Foppa. GONG! [I also did not think Emery would lead to many points, so what do I know?!?]
Then, that kinda move (the Alfie for Gaborik move) is based on how many trades one has. I got killed this week with 3 injuries to one team and 2 to another...now I am gunshy about overly aggressive moves (and had I not taken an early week trade that I thought was total "surplus" -- well, it was before knees and groins went kaput) like bum D-men for Desjardins, I would have been able to move Gagne to Gaborik today and reap some potential nice gains ($100k yesterday has to be like $200k on game day against Columbus).
Sooo, I will personally play it gunshy moving Gagne to Jagr, and then consider moving my Senators to someone else on 12/3 even though, aside from maybe a returning Forsberg, I cannot see anyone I'd move into during the Ottowa 1 in 6 at either center (for Spezza) or Alfie/Heatley (at wing).
Sorry for the stream of consciousness.
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| 102 | chipsnbeer
ID: 35957301
Wed, Nov 30, 2005, 18:40
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Don't you think it is a bit of a gamble to go with Gaborik?
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| 103 | smallwhirled
ID: 171046162
Wed, Nov 30, 2005, 18:45
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No because he has the best schedule. He would have to suck pretty bad for it to not be worth it.
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| 104 | urkel
ID: 33950610
Wed, Nov 30, 2005, 21:36
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I picked up Gionta on one of my teams instead of Gaborik. NJD has the same # of games as MIN in December, and Gionta has been on fire (until tonight, that is). And he's not the injury risk that Gaborik is.
I wasn't going to do the Gaborik move at all because of his injury history, until I saw the 100K increase yesterday... I figured tonight's increase should be huge. So I thought even if he gets injured within the next few games, I'll get a nice RV bonus and he'll probably still put up some nice TSNP before he goes down again. And if I'm lucky, he won't go down and I can ride his great production great schedule for a month. So on my other 2 teams I went Tanguay -> Gaborik today.
Tomorrow, Gagne -> Jagr x3
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| 105 | Ira
ID: 401017811
Wed, Nov 30, 2005, 22:19
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Aw man
I hate Sydor... another -10 tonite, and he loses like 10-20K every night..
He's just not significant enough to use a trade on..
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