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0 Subject: Week 8 Trades

Posted by: Ira
- [401017811] Thu, Dec 01, 2005, 00:01

Kiprusoff>Vokoun
Thornton>Staal
Svatos>Jagr
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93smallwhirled
      ID: 111129214
      Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 12:46
Right now I have Ilya > Gagne pegged for the 12th FWIW, hopefully.
94urkel
      ID: 33950610
      Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 14:05
Darn, I figured people would be talking about dumping Gaborik. Just can't see doing it on a week that he plays Pittsburgh, Philly with their backup goalie, and then Buffalo.

If Gagne was playing with Forsberg still I could see it, but as it is, I just don't know.
95urkel
      ID: 33950610
      Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 14:06
Oh, I went

Pitkanen > Zidlicky

NAS with a very nice schedule through first week of January
96ny studs
      ID: 24113358
      Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 15:54
no games will be played in the nhl between 2/13 and 2/27 because of the olympics. during that time there are 2 wednesdays (aka trade refreshes). i read the game rules but was unsure if we will receive 10 trades over that period. does anyone know for sure? if so, i/we think i/we can be much more agressive with our trades. not only that, but just 2 days later (3/1) comes another refresh.
97smallwhirled
      ID: 111129214
      Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 17:06
Taking another risk. Pitkanen > Redden.
98Joelis
      ID: 389331817
      Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 17:09

Gotta choose between Gagne and Gionta today. I'm leaning toward Gionta because he is less owned and has two extra games in the next 2 weeks.
99smallwhirled
      ID: 111129214
      Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 17:19
With Foppa out, I don't see a huge reason to get Gagne just yet....the 2 extra games for Gionta probably make him worth it here. I'm going to get Gagne, just not yet.....
100samuli
      ID: 4593715
      Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 17:43
Leaning towards holding Gaborik for now... There's still no way I could possibly make room for Gionta even if I wanted to (I don't). But different strokes for different folks etc. etc., now watch him go for b2b hat-tricks. :O)
101CrazyClowns
      ID: 37924214
      Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 18:42
Dont jinx it Samuli...
102Ira
      ID: 401017811
      Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 19:40
Just my luck..

Eric Desjardins left the game and won't be returning because of a 'partial shoulder seperation'
103CrazyClowns
      ID: 37924214
      Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 20:52
ouch.
another trade down the drain.
104The Dienasty
      ID: 132591
      Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 20:54
Splendid.
105walk
      ID: 57118411
      Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 21:08
I have desjardins on all three teams, one of which is tradeless...two of three had him before this injury, and one had him for the one freakin period before his frail buttocks got hurt. Nice one.

I'm moving him to Chara on one team and anyone who is not likely to get hurt on the other.

- walk
106The Dienasty
      ID: 132591
      Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 21:15
My teams trade situation is going to be dire almost immediately after the refresh... Call it poor trade management or just plain bad luck, but i may have to eat significant losses next week on at least one LA King forward and potentially both of my Thrasher players.

Not pleased.
107R9
      Leader
      ID: 02624472
      Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 21:42
Woohoo! 156 TSNP for Niitty, finally got my 1st goalie shutout of the year. Needed that like you wouldn't believe...

Next week, I might just end up holding both my LA forwards. (Demitra/Frolov) They do have a 3-day break, but their schedule picks right back up again after that. Its not a pts or schedule move imho, just a money-saving one because everyone will sell for the 3-day break. At this point I'm probably leaning sell one/hold one, but we'll see. My trade situation has been crap for weeks, I'd really like to change that.
108urkel
      ID: 289950
      Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 21:43
Yikes. This has to be one of the worst weeks I can remember for me in this game. Had both Pitkanen and Desjardins. Plus of course 2 LA forwards and 2 ATL forwards who did squat and lost money.

One positive note... on my Basic team I picked up Niittymaki (sp?) from Gerber on the weekend, pretty happy with tonight's result... wish I'd picked him up on my ultimate teams! Although his run will be shorter than I'd hoped, since Esche will be back soon.
109urkel
      ID: 289950
      Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 21:50
97: I considered that same move myself! In the end I chickened out because I just haven't had luck with my just-back-from-injury guys. Went instead to someone who's in gravity - Zidlicky. But he's been pretty consistent lately and he's got a wicked schedule right through until the first week of January. Hopefully some other managers will see the potential upside with him and pick him up so he escapes gravity.
110Ira
      ID: 401017811
      Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 21:57
Desjardins> Kim Johnsson or Meszaros?
111Joelis
      ID: 389331817
      Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 22:26

Oh well, at least we will make decent cash on him tonight before getting rid of him tomorrow.
112Joelis
      ID: 389331817
      Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 22:29

At least there is some good news tonight...

The Victoria Secret Fashion Show is on right now.

:)
113C.SuperFreak
      Sustainer
      ID: 53771616
      Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 23:09
...bad news Joelis. Tyra Banks calls it a career after her 3rd and final walk down the runway.

Time to trade out of her.

Heidi Klum has the experience but being married to a Seal worries me.

I'm thinking more about the rookie Izabel Goulart. That star is on the rise.
114The Beezer
      Leader
      ID: 191202817
      Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 23:15
Desj -> Zidlicky for me. Leaves me just enough for Ottawa buy day and Zid's schedule looks good. And here I was thinking a few days ago that maybe I had saved too many trades to be useful. Trade hoarders of the world unite - our time has come!
115TT
      ID: 52715301
      Tue, Dec 06, 2005, 23:26
You and me both Beezer, you and me both. I actually love it when highly owned players get injured (even though I have them). Those fools near the top who always use their trades by thursday or friday are getting what they deserve.
116urkel
      ID: 289950
      Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 03:08
on my ultimate teams I have trades (at least 4 on each team) so I'm good there despite having both Pitkanen and Desjardins. On my basic team, for the first time all year, I used up all my trades on Saturday. Of course the only time that ever happens is the time that 2 of my guys get injured within 1 day of each other; I have both Pitkanen and Desjardins so I'll be out of trades the first day of next week. Oi!

Then I have to hope and pray that no one gets hurt, and that my Saturday acquisition, Niittymaki, does well enough to keep playing for another week even if Weekes comes back. Ugh I just realized, I have Jagr on that team too. Whoa am I ever in trouble on that one. Could take a long time to recover there.

Thank god I played more conservatively in ultimate.
117urkel
      ID: 289950
      Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 03:09
re Niitty, I meant "...even if Esche" comes back, of course. Yikes, this trade situation has addled my brain. :)
118urkel
      ID: 289950
      Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 03:12
Woohoo, Gaborik didn't go down nearly as much as I feared. Looks like I'll be OK to keep him against 3 soft teams this week. Actually make that 2 I guess... Niitty is maybe not so soft. :)
119walk
      ID: 57118411
      Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 07:25
One team, turgeon, forsberg, pitkanen, desjardins and legace = 5 injury-related trades used in last 2 weeks. Other team = same except for turgeon.

This has truly ficked me up royally!

- walk
120smallwhirled
      ID: 111129214
      Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 08:47
118,
Like I said, people have bigger fish to fry. It's hard to trade a guy like Gaborik when players are dropping like flies.

I may move Ilya today. He has flat out sucked lately, and he has a 2 day hole now....have plenty of time to think about it.
121Caper
      ID: 3510101810
      Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 13:56
I may move Ilya to Kariya or Sullivan today. Decent schedule, stable price and possible points...... We will see.
122Caper
      ID: 3510101810
      Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 13:59
More likely Kariya if I move..........
123smallwhirled
      ID: 111129214
      Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 14:49
I think Ilya > Sullivan for me.
125Die_Habs
      ID: 26211512
      Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 15:46
I really want the ATL vs Blue Jackets game. Dammit! I feel that most of the trading that is going on is in frustration rather then looking at schedules and matchups. I would trade my entire team right now but my existing players are just as likely to produce points as anyone.
126smallwhirled
      ID: 111129214
      Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 15:50
Ilya pisses me off, I'm tired of eating so many money losers. The entire situation has gone to hell because I had originally planned on ATL > PHI. Now that doesn't work because Foppa is such a freaking wild card. Center sucks, so Savard isn't going to be as much of a risk as Ilya in terms of money loss.....there are no centers I want right now anyways.

Ilya > Sully > Nagy for me.

127TT
      ID: 481125715
      Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 16:29
Why not hold out a little longer and go Ilya to one of the OTT wingers. That was my original plan.
128smallwhirled
      ID: 111129214
      Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 16:31
I have ins to them.
129samuli
      ID: 4593715
      Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 16:32
A quick question: Why is J not in our league? I'm guessing you should know something about this, smallwhirled.
130smallwhirled
      ID: 111129214
      Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 16:50
Because he likes to win auto divisions......wheras I, think I can win ESDNHL every year. ;)

Seriously, he always just plays in the autos, that's just his thing. I just go with 1 team and put it in the big divsion because the competition outweighs the auto division prize.
131TT
      ID: 581157716
      Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 18:08
Hmmmm I have a few mil left in the bank. Was gonna use it for Gerber ---> Hasek. Or I could also use it to upgrade Desjardan and possibly Frolov ---> Heatley.

What do you guys think?
132Ira
      ID: 401017811
      Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 19:47
Nice calls on the Zidlickys

he's so pricey...

I dont know if I want to move to him for the schedule, or get a cheapie in Meszaros for the long-term..
133urkel
      ID: 33950610
      Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 19:51
Woohoo Zidlicky with 1G, 1A already through 1 period of play. I was worried about him because he was in gravity when I picked him up but he made money today and from the points he's getting tonight, he should make more tomorrow.

In a sense though I'd almost be happier if the bare minimum of managers needed to avoid gravity picked him up... that way his price would be stable and I could keep him without any worries of RV loss through the first week of January.
134urkel
      ID: 33950610
      Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 19:57
Ira, I got both. Went

Pitkanen > Zidlicky -- Tuesday
Desjardins > Meszaros -- today

saved money on both trades that will come in handy for picking up OTT forwards.
135smallwhirled
      ID: 111129214
      Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 21:27
Zidlicky is going nuts.....jeez.

Sullivan had a penalty shot. Almost a hatty. Still some time to go.
136Die_Habs
      ID: 511121118
      Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 21:27
Nice pickup on Zidlicky guys. I didn't do any moves at this time. I am going to suck up the RV loses and hope the tide turns. When I don't see any options, I figure I might as well save trades. Gaborik and Ilya need to turn there games around sometime. Moving Jagr into SENS and nylander in Spezza.
137urkel
      ID: 33950610
      Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 21:50
I wasn't expecting anything like Zidlicky's performance tonight, that's for sure. I was just hoping for a nice steady 30-35 TSNP/game like he's been doing for awhile. He got almost that from penalties alone tonight. :D

But yeah he's looking good, and between today and January 15, Nashville plays 21 games - the most of any team in the NHL, so he could conceivably be a 2 month hold.

I won't go so far as to say the Pitkanen thing was a blessing in disguise, but it sure goes a long way to easing the pain.
138CrazyClowns
      ID: 37924214
      Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 21:59
went Desjardins => Meszeros with my last trade earlier today. I like the long term hold and prefer the cheap option than the mid-prices one at D for a couple TSNP/G difference. Gives me more cash to play around with my wingers and less volatilty of their price, which doesnt force me to use up trades.
139urkel
      ID: 33950610
      Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 22:00
I just realized something... with his fight near the end of the game, Zidlicky completed a Gordie Howe hat trick! I wish that was worth something in this game!
140The Beezer
      Leader
      ID: 191202817
      Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 22:32
Ditto what urkel said about Zid. I'd love to hold him into 2006 and plan to barring injury, then I can turn him into a top-3 D guy assuming I can keep up a decent RV gain overall until then.

SW called Sullivan and he put up a monster game as well. Too bad Vokoun had a seat tonight but then again with his recent play I can't complain too much.
141Dr. Doom
      ID: 232152517
      Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 22:35
I really wanted to get Zidlicky, but couldn't pull it off with one trade.
142The Dienasty
      ID: 132591
      Wed, Dec 07, 2005, 22:55
Well, im sold. Desjardins -> Zidlicky, once i get my precious trades.
143Caper
      ID: 3510101810
      Thu, Dec 08, 2005, 12:54
Glad I actually did go Sullivan afterall. Between him, Zildiky and Iggy, I finally had a decent night. Iggy to Gaborik today for me.
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