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Subject: RIHC 2006-07: Draft discussion
Posted by: Guru
- [330592710] Wed, Oct 11, 2006, 17:43
I will activate the draft momentarily. The clock will not start until Thursday morning, and any picks tonight are strictly optional. You can, however, begin to set up a queue if you expect timing conflicts tomorrow.
We will start with an 6 hour clock, but if too much clock is being used, we may have to shorten it during the draft (though I doubt that will be necessary). The draft clock will continue through weekends. There will be a clock moratorium each night from 11pm until 7am Eastern time. Picks can continue to be made during the moratorium period, but the clock will be paused. Those picking at the endpoints do not get a double clock. In addition, if anyone is already in arrears for a pick when their next pick is due, they do not necessarily get a second clock period. This will be subject to Commissioner discretion.
The draft is configured for only G, F, and C. Our league does have single slot requirements for PG, SG, PF, and SF, but I did not think it was helpful to include those distinctions in the draft grid, since many players would be eligible at multiple slots and their designation would often be arbitrary. If you draft someone who is eligible for both GF or FC, just pick the one that you think is the best fit for your team. Again, this is only for the purposes of displaying the draft results.
Our roster configuration will be as follows:
PG, SG, G, G
PF, SF, F, F
C, C
Util, Util
3 bench
2 DL
Yahoo position eligibility will be used throughout the season. You are advised to check the Yahoo league site prior to selecting any player to ensure that you know that player's position eligibility at the start of the season.
You do not need to draft a completely valid roster.
Following the draft, all undrafted players will be placed on waivers, and waiver priorities will start out in inverse draft order.
You may draft a player who is not currently listed at Yahoo. If you do so, you will be assigned a placeholder player at Yahoo until the drafted player is made available, at which time you must pick up that player as a free agent (without using a waiver priority). After the 15 rounds of the draft are completed, you can no longer claim an unlisted player.
This league will have a limit of 84 games per position. Since there are 2 slots for each of G, F, C, and U, those position slots will be subject to a combined limit of 168 games.
Here are my ground rules for selecting from a queue: If you have a queue and make it available, and it is your turn to pick, I will make your pick if I'm around. Therefore, do not make (or leave) your queue available if you do not want it used.
You can specify that only the top name on your queue is to be displayed, or that the entire queue is to be shown. If you make the entire queue visible, I'll first check for any emails that might provide additional instructions.
Regardless, be aware that your queue is not visible to me or to any other designated picker until it is your turn to pick.
Please refrain from mentioning any undrafted player in this thread. You can use this thread to alert others about your availability, to request volunteers to accept a queue, to raise questions about draft rules or mechanics, to solicit trade offers or announce trades, etc.
After two rounds have been completed, I will start a separate thread for draft rationales. We will then try to keep the rationale thread on a 2 round delay. |
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| 150 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 041831612
Thu, Oct 19, 2006, 21:53
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Stand on your head, and trade me Brand. Seems like adequate punishment.
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| 151 | Uptown Bombers
ID: 35616416
Thu, Oct 19, 2006, 22:23
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Hmmmm. I tried, but was unable to hit the send trade button while upside down, so I gave up on the punishment all together. ; )
On a side note, Endy Chavez just made a ridiculous play to keep the Mets alive.
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| 154 | lionprideguy @work
Leader
ID: 906204
Fri, Oct 20, 2006, 14:21
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Hey everybody - I have to duck out to a lunch meeting for the next 3 hours (including travel time) and will be away from the computer. I've left a 3-player queue for Guru's use to keep things moving. This way at least the 9.11 pick can be made to move things on to FootWedge, and possibly 10.02 as well. If my queue is busted by the 10.02 pick I'll get to it ASAP when I get back. I'd also be willing to trade it while I'm away to Uptown for Damon Stoudamire or to anybody else for a player they drafted in rounds 1-7. You know, just to help out and keep things moving.
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| 155 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 41831612
Fri, Oct 20, 2006, 14:27
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What a guy. ;)
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| 158 | Uptown Bombers
ID: 35616416
Fri, Oct 20, 2006, 21:27
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LOL at Guru's rationale for Nocioni. Wait until you see mine for the Granger pick that came two picks later. Keeping in line with posts 145 & 147 above, I just say this for now: I lost sleep over that pick! The rest of the story will have to wait.
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| 159 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 041831612
Fri, Oct 20, 2006, 22:20
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I'm here and will pick soon.
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| 161 | skinneej
Leader
ID: 040625911
Sat, Oct 21, 2006, 00:31
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Sorry, Uptown. I just checked in before heading off to bed and saw my turn was up. I didn't check to see what time your pick was made. I didn't want to hold up the rationales while I was off in dreamland. Now, I am off...
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| 164 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Sat, Oct 21, 2006, 09:26
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I set up a new rationale thread to use when we get to round 9.
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| 169 | Pacers Rule
ID: 58919227
Sun, Oct 22, 2006, 11:07
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Uptown:
Just read your draft rationale on Granger. Don't worry, he'll get the minutes. He made huge gains throughout the season last year - as a rook - and he's headed toward mini-marion status. Granger is a very versatile player who is coachable and hard-nosed on defense, as well as developing increasing confidence in his offense (with the whole team and coaching staff behind him). Indiana is short on outside shooting this year, and with J.O. and Harrington hogging the post, guess who's going to be putting up more threes from the corner?
He can play at the SF or PF and even SG in a pinch, and with all the nonsense and injuries going on with the Pacers, which so far shows no signs of diminishing this season, he looks to see upwards of 35 m/g. Since Granger is a "Jehovah's Witness" he's pretty unlikely to take weapons and drugs to strip clubs at 3 am, which should help to keep him on the floor while others spend time in the doghouse or the courtroom.
It's higly likely he'll start at SF, as Indiana looks to go small and uptempo, with a potent front court of J.O, Harrington & Granger at the 5,4, and 3 respectively. With Tinsley pushing the break, finally unshackled from Carlisle's over-controlling ways (he's promised- and also been told from on top), the new offensive approach can only help everyone's fantasy numbers.
I took him a little early by some projections in the AAA East draft (8.02) because I watched him play all last season and I could not bear the thought of sleeping too long on him and missing out this year. Considering the state of mind you were in when selecting this pick, I'd say you're going to come out a winner here. Thought you'd want to know.
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| 170 | Florian
Sustainer
ID: 034815289
Sun, Oct 22, 2006, 11:41
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Going to be out for about 3 hours. Not sure who I want to pick, so I'm not leaving a queue. Will make my pick then (though lionprideguy probably won't pick much before me as he's on the West Coast)
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| 171 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 041831612
Sun, Oct 22, 2006, 12:38
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PR, seems like only a year ago you were in this league, posting the same type of stuff. ;)
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| 172 | Pacers Rule
Sustainer
ID: 910311210
Sun, Oct 22, 2006, 12:44
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Yeah, we'll see if I make it back next year. Feels like I've had a very weak draft this year. Last year I got the rotowire projections, and this year I did not. Last year, on Camby-power, until I made some lousy trades and got too busy to keep up the final month or two, I was looking to finish strong. Unfortunately, I ran out of time and energy, and a few other categories ;-)
If only I knew the other 29 teams like I know the Pacers....
I see you're still up to your tradin' ways. Sounds like you all are off to a great start for another great year of RIHC.
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| 173 | Uptown Bombers
Donor
ID: 35616416
Sun, Oct 22, 2006, 12:44
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Thanks Pacers Rule. Good to know someone else thinks he's primed to break out. I do hope you are right about the boost in three's. That would be especially useful. He did play well last night. I still think I would have rather gone with Chandler, but I'll survive if I am proven wrong.
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| 174 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 041831612
Sun, Oct 22, 2006, 12:47
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From what I heard the Rotowire projections were pretty whack. I don't think you missed much.
A good trade never dies.
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| 175 | lionprideguy
ID: 32357261
Sun, Oct 22, 2006, 14:51
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Wow, almost overslept my pick this morning. Sorry about the delay for anybody waiting, we're back up and running again. I'll be gone for 6-7 hours but since I probably won't pick again until tomorrow night, I doubt this will make any difference.
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| 178 | Uptown Bombers
Donor
ID: 35616416
Sun, Oct 22, 2006, 23:38
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I'll be up for another hour or so in case my pick comes up. Otherwise, my queue will be set up for tomorrow. In regards to round 13, I will leave some guys in the queue, but probably not enough to cover the total number of picks. I simply don't have that many guys on my radar right now. If any players remain in the queue, feel free to use for round 13. If my queue runs out, I'll be able to check in around 3:30 pm or so.
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| 179 | Florian
ID: 32840258
Mon, Oct 23, 2006, 10:12
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Does anyone have a link to last years final RIHC standings? I'm mainly interested in the actual number of points, rebounds, assists, etc. accumulated by the various teams rather than any relative rankings.
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| 180 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Oct 23, 2006, 10:17
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Click on the RIHC icon on the blurb page.
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| 181 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Mon, Oct 23, 2006, 10:18
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or just click here
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| 183 | RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Mon, Oct 23, 2006, 10:55
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What if I have no rationale for picking Pau??? :)
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| 185 | Florian
ID: 32840258
Mon, Oct 23, 2006, 12:27
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Thanks for the link Guru.
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| 188 | Uptown Bombers
Donor
ID: 35616416
Mon, Oct 23, 2006, 14:52
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Home early from work and will make my next pick when it is up.
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| 189 | coldwater coyotes
ID: 31554112
Mon, Oct 23, 2006, 14:54
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sorry... Ford should be 7.09
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| 193 | Uptown Bombers
Donor
ID: 35616416
Mon, Oct 23, 2006, 17:28
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I am suddenly unable to get into Kafenatid. Is this just me or are others having problems?
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| 194 | skinneej
Leader
ID: 040625911
Mon, Oct 23, 2006, 17:34
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I was having trouble for a few minutes getting in, but seems to be back up now. It went down right after my McDyess pick. Omen??
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| 195 | Uptown Bombers
Donor
ID: 35616416
Mon, Oct 23, 2006, 17:36
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Nevermind, I am big in. I figured the system finally recognized my superior drafting advantage and attempted to even the playing field for the rest of you guys. ;-)
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| 196 | Uptown Bombers
Donor
ID: 35616416
Mon, Oct 23, 2006, 17:37
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Yeah skineej, I saw you post your rationale so figured you pick and then I couldn't get in. And as to the cause of the crash, I like my theory better.
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| 197 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 041831612
Mon, Oct 23, 2006, 19:24
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Awesome----was out for a couple hours, popped back in before going out again, and I was on the clock. AND I was able to get in. Now THAT's mojo.
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| 198 | lionprideguy
ID: 32357261
Tue, Oct 24, 2006, 04:03
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I'm done for the night and since I'll probably still be asleep in the morning when the next picks are made, I've left a queue for overnight. I'll check in tomorrow morning when I wake up, but if FootWedge has already made his two picks go ahead and use the list to keep things going.
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| 201 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Oct 24, 2006, 13:14
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Yee haw! I've snared the two headed monster for my second center slot: Nene and Primo!
Victory is mine! Resistance is futile!
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| 202 | RecycledSpinalFluid
Dude
ID: 204401122
Tue, Oct 24, 2006, 13:21
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Wow. You really did punt blocks. Those two combined might equal Earl Boykin's numbers.
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| 204 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Tue, Oct 24, 2006, 13:29
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A punt that would make Ray Guy proud!
I got to a point when I could have gone after a shot blocker or two, potentially picked up 1-2 points in blocks, and butchered some of my other cats. I decided that if it's hopeless, don't pay up for any shot blockers.
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| 207 | Pacers Rule
ID: 17982315
Tue, Oct 24, 2006, 18:53
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Footwedge, if you're needing a little fodder for your 12.01 rationale, here's my contribution:
Tinsley has created a few smiles of his own with his recent play, racking up 17 assists against three turnovers in the last two preseason games, both victories.
"It's just a different approach," Tinsley said. "In the offseason, I dedicated myself to taking care of my body, hiring a chef, lifting weights and being focused and just more dedicated."
With the shift to a faster-paced offense, Tinsley's role has become even more critical because he has his hand on the throttle, and that's been evident in the preseason. In the two games he missed, the Pacers were outscored 35-28 on fast-break points and lost both. In the four games he played, they've outscored their opponents 84-33 and gone 3-1.
"Our season is really going to depend on how well we're able to keep up with Jamaal as a team and how well he runs the show," said Jermaine O'Neal. "He's a prime-time factor. The way he has approached the game this year, the way he's worked out, his mental approach, the leadership he's bringing as a point guard has been phenomenal. He's going to set the pace for us the entire year."
After missing nearly half of the regular-season games the last three seasons with a variety of injuries, Tinsley set two primary individual goals for 2006-07: to appear in at least 80 games and keep his turnovers down.
Sounds pretty good for a twelfth round pick. Now, he just has to play the games :-o
Pacers Daily Digest
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| 208 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 041831612
Tue, Oct 24, 2006, 18:56
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He still looks fat.
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| 209 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 041831612
Tue, Oct 24, 2006, 18:56
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Uh, Tinsley that is. ;)
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| 210 | Pacers Rule
ID: 17982315
Tue, Oct 24, 2006, 20:38
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yeah, babyfat on that babyface...
I read he's smiling a little this year. That's a good sign.
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| 212 | Swish City
Dude
ID: 0931275
Wed, Oct 25, 2006, 12:13
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Woohoo, check those centers flying off the shelves in the last round - 5 in a row counting Mike D's pick!
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| 213 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 41831612
Wed, Oct 25, 2006, 12:24
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Beware the Damp.
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| 214 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Oct 25, 2006, 12:42
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I have entered the draft picks into Yahoo (except for the final 4 picks, which have yet to be selected). Please review your team to make sure I haven't goofed. Use this link: Yahoo draft results for RIHC
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| 215 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Oct 25, 2006, 12:44
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Instructions for your remaining rationales:
Unless yours happens to be the next one due in the rationale thread, please post your remaining rationales in THIS thread. I'll move them over in the proper sequence.
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| 216 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Oct 25, 2006, 12:49
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I will plan to activate the league at Yahoo tomorrow, probably around noon. At that point, all undrafted players should be on waivers. Initial waiver proprities will be in reverse draft order. Waivers should clear some time on Saturday.
If you have players who are already eligible for an injury slot, you may pick up an additional player via waivers or free agency without dropping a player. If none of your players are injury-eligible, then you must leave your 2 injury slots empty.
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| 217 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Wed, Oct 25, 2006, 12:50
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After the draft has completed, I will set up a separate thread for your comments on the overall draft.
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| 220 | lionprideguy @work
Leader
ID: 906204
Wed, Oct 25, 2006, 14:52
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And we're done! Thanks everybody - the draft is always one of the most fun parts of the year. Even if it sounds like Mike D is writing taglines for bad horror movies about killer fog.
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| 221 | Mike D
Leader
ID: 41831612
Wed, Oct 25, 2006, 14:59
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Muhahahahaha!
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| 226 | Uptown Bombers
Donor
ID: 35616416
Wed, Oct 25, 2006, 15:29
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re:214
My team looks good Guru.
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| 227 | lionprideguy @work
Leader
ID: 906204
Wed, Oct 25, 2006, 15:47
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re:214
Guru, my team doesn't look good, but it looks correct :) Thanks for your help!
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| 228 | coldwater coyotes
ID: 31554112
Wed, Oct 25, 2006, 17:05
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re 214
correct..tks
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| 236 | lionprideguy
ID: 32357261
Thu, Oct 26, 2006, 03:52
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Thanks for the recap thread, Guru. I won't be able to do this until Friday evening probably, but I won't forget.
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| 237 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Oct 26, 2006, 10:32
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Rationales still pending:
Footwedge:
11.12 Grant Hill
12.01 Jamaal Tinsley
13.12 Kenny Thomas
14.01 Bobby Jackson
15.12 Ruben Patterson
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| 238 | Guru
ID: 330592710
Thu, Oct 26, 2006, 12:00
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The league has been activated. You can find your players listed for 10/27 or later. Undrafted players will clear waivers after 2 days. (They are all listed as 10/29, so maybe 2.5 days)
We'll continue to use this thread for discussion until all of the missing rationales are collected. After that, I'll start a regular season discussion thread.
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