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Subject: Gurupie 20 '06 Season Discussion II
Posted by: Ref
- Donor [539581218] Fri, Dec 08, 2006, 11:32
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201 | blackjackis21
ID: 12381014 Thu, Apr 19, 2007, 09:58
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Congrats to bmd for winning, and to Species for the last second sprint to take second place! Frankly, I didn't see that coming.
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202 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Thu, Apr 19, 2007, 10:23
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Nice job bmd!
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203 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Thu, Apr 19, 2007, 12:50
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Standings - Overall Rank Team Overall Pts Change 1 beastiemiked 137.0 1.0 2 Species 132.0 2.0 3 blackjackis21 131.0 -2.0 4 Extreme Basketball 129.0 1.0 5 Can't Beat the Refs 128.0 2.0 6 KnicksFan 121.0 0.0 7 RSF 103.0 -2.0 8 coldwater coyotes 103.0 0.0 9 RotoGuru Talaxians 97.0 0.0 10 Skinnee Soldiers 97.0 0.0 11 Peter N. 94.0 -2.0 12 Tosh 88.5 -0.5 13 slackjawed yokel 88.5 2.5 14 Twarpy 83.0 0.0 15 Great One 76.0 -1.0 16 Perm Dude 73.0 0.0 17 Blurred Crusaders 70.0 0.0 18 Frick 62.0 -1.0 19 CCRider 39.0 0.0 20 GoatLockers Kids 38.0 0.0
VI Prizes
A fine plaque will be engraved and shipped to the winner courtesy of the previous year's winner. The trophy will be yours to proudly display with your other cherished mementos for 1 year. It will be the winner’s responsibility to engrave it and ship it to the winner. There will be an added nominal fee to help cover expenses related to the engraving and shipping of the plaque.
A separate cash prize pool has also been established. It is strictly voluntary. Only those who participate will be eligible for this prize. $15 USD entry must be paid by the season opener. The exact method of prize distribution will vary from year to year depending on participation. We focus payouts so it will NOT be winner take all. Six owners will have a chance to “win something.” Prize pool funds are due by Opening Night.
2006-07 Payout has 17 managers paid: 1st $100 2nd $60 3rd $35 4th $25 5th $20 6th $15 Total Payouts is 17 X $15 = $255
Ineligible for prize pool: PD, Pistol Pete, Mike D
If any of the non-participants qualify, the prizes will be reallocated by the commissioners. Managers will move up payout position(s) and any remaining funds will go into the trophy fund.
2006-07 Payout: 1st $100 bmd 2nd $60 Species 3rd $35 bj21 4th $25 Ref 5th $20 KF 6th $15 trophy fund
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204 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Thu, Apr 19, 2007, 12:51
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Lots of ties. The Lottery and draft order is going to be interesting.
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205 | Great One Sustainer
ID: 053272014 Thu, Apr 19, 2007, 12:57
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I am a kind of proud I got from a distant dead last when Gasol returned... all the way up into 15th and within spitting distance of a few more spots.
A full season with some of these guys will be fun! Hopefully Kidd leaves sooner than later and its the Marcus Williams show... and I can steal one fo the top 2 draft picks. Now THAT would be nice :)
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206 | RecycledSpinalFluid Dude
ID: 204401122 Thu, Apr 19, 2007, 13:01
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Oh man...I just disappeared (never to be heard from again) after mailing the trophy without insurance to bmd.
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207 | Peter N.
ID: 333491512 Thu, Apr 19, 2007, 13:02
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Congrats BMD! Well done.
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208 | Guru
ID: 330592710 Thu, Apr 19, 2007, 13:03
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Prize winners: please send me an email and let me know how you would like to be paid.
Options are: 1) I can send a check (provide mailing address in that case). No cost involved. 2) I can send via Paypal. If there are any fees, they will be assessed on your end. 3) I can retain all or a portion for next year's dues.
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209 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Thu, Apr 19, 2007, 13:16
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My team overachieved but I had a chance tow in or at least finish 2nd if my players had maintained down the stretch and not gotten hurt. I also messed up by benching nice players because I was so far over GPs and ended up falling short in games--esp Guard. Injuries were problematic but I was able to compensate by living on the wire--esp the NOK players. That was huge and jetted me up. Tyson Chandler was a beast for me after a slow start.
Inconsistencies hurt me too, esp from JWill and Granger. All my trades backfired. I gave up on assists and 3s way too early. Took too many chances on scrubs that wasted games too. But even though my 61 transactions were moe than needed, I don't know how some of you guys have single digit moves. I just can't function like that. I still firmly believe we need to up our GP limits so the the teams who have an insane top 6 or 7 players need to use their whole teams instead of their core players.
Maybe I'll propose 90 as that would have gotten it done two years ago whereas 92 was defeated by just a vote or two. At least four of those people said they would vhae voted for 90 but couldn't go 92. I was very unhappy with NBA's site. Will definitely look again for another site and could always go back to Yahoo if need be. Guess NBA would have to REALLY improve and be ready well before the season before I'd even consider going back. I just can't see that happening.
This is my least favorite of our trilogy of deep Gurupie games so to finish "in the money" was definitely a huge treat for me. I know I overachieved, but that's fine. That's what we all hope to do if you don't have the players. After winning g24 twice and G20 baseball three times, this finish is like a win for me. Maybe I've got my core players now to make a run--but of course I did trade my first pick away but do have two or three guys I can't keep that should be kept so maybe I can deal them away.
BMD is on a rampage. He takes G20 baseball for the first time and after a runner-up finish last year in this league, comes from way down to take the title. He also was runner-up two years ago in G24, so he is on a mission. Grats again!
This league has had a different winner each year so it is definitely competitive with some parity.
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210 | Species Dude
ID: 07724916 Thu, Apr 19, 2007, 13:28
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Congrats beastiemiked. Very impressive two-fer wins in a very tough league.
Re: Me - WHOA! Where the hell did THAT come from?!?!? Sweet! I didn't think my team had the ability to makeup that many points!! I am shocked but extremely pleased to post a 2nd place finish. Thank you J-Rich, Bibby, Hughes and Mo Will for your barrage of 3's on the last night. Hell I nearly passed bj21 last night in that cat, too.
Thanks to everyone for a great year.
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211 | Mike D Leader
ID: 041831612 Thu, Apr 19, 2007, 16:49
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Who knows, but thanks for passing me. I'd rather have the better draft pick since once again my money goes elsewhere (booooo!).
Some great competition at the top these last few weeks and months. Masterfully done, BMD. We all saw it coming and were helpless.
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212 | Tosh Leader
ID: 057721710 Thu, Apr 19, 2007, 19:02
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Congrats beastiemiked. Way to finish strong!
blackjackis21 - Maybe you should have traded me Wade after all! ;-)
And now I am going to complain. I played this game hard all the way to the end, and was able to finsh tied for 12th. Twarpy had 110 fewer GP than me. On Nov. 30, he told the league his activity would increase ... yet he made only one (1) add/drop since then, and only six (6) lineup changes since then.
There were a few other teams with low game totals, but at least they were active in their add/drops and lineup changes.
It is an injustice if Twarpy is allowed to get an earlier draft pick than me. This needs to get discussed by the league and resolved.
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213 | Mike D Leader
ID: 041831612 Thu, Apr 19, 2007, 21:49
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Agreed.
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214 | KnicksFan
ID: 551391816 Sun, Apr 22, 2007, 21:37
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Thank you Leandro.
Smush, your days are numbered.
Hermann...you have Sanjaya-esque hair, so I will have to take that into consideration when I make my final decision.
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215 | RecycledSpinalFluid Dude
ID: 204401122 Sun, Apr 22, 2007, 22:01
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I was thinking more "Fabio-esqe"
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216 | Great One
ID: 201155199 Sun, Apr 22, 2007, 23:23
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Somebody get that story about Herrmann again... you can't drop a guy who has been through that much heartache!
On a side note, I purposely only have 5 definite keepers. So if you wanna get ahead of the curve and start offering me your extras for a pick, you know where to find me.
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217 | beastiemiked
ID: 3101646 Mon, Apr 23, 2007, 00:57
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Thx all. I was lucky enough for my full team to be healthy the last month and a half to make the run. Species, bj, Mike D, and Ref all could've just as easily been up at the top.
I've got 7 keepers right now. Looking to trade one of TJ Ford, Rajon Rondo, or Antawn Jamison. Doubt I'll make any moves right away but thought I'd get the word out.
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218 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Wed, Apr 25, 2007, 15:50
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I have grabbed all of the Stadings (including all cats), Transaction info, Games used info, activity info, etc. and put it in a .xls file and placed it on our anglefire G20/24 web site.
I am not even sure where we stand with our plaque. Last I heard rsf finally was able to get one made but he said it was junk and was going to have them redo it but that's been awhile ago. RSF was supposed to get funds from Twarpy to make it but Twarpy said that hadn't happened yet. So we need to know where we stand. Twarpy has accepted responsibility on his end and is willing to send the money for the plaque via paypal to whomever ultimately makes it. Not sure if that needs to be RSF, bmd or someone else at this point.
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219 | Great One
ID: 201155199 Sun, May 20, 2007, 11:23
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Ref - do we have a draft lottery? (I assume so).
I was wondering if it we've ever considered using the "real" lottery for our league. Like we all get associated with a team based on final standings... i.e. Goat is Memphis Grizzlies. Then we could all watch the real draft lottery (Tuesday 8:30 PM on ESPN!)
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220 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Sun, May 20, 2007, 15:33
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Yes.
No, we use the same formula as the NBA so we will wait to see who our managers are before we run those. We will have some turnover apparently.
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221 | Great One
ID: 201155199 Sun, May 20, 2007, 16:37
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Well it would still be the "team" not the "coach", right? Determining draft order shouldn't really matter.
I don't know. I just thought it would be kind of fun to have our lottery live on ESPN! :) lol...
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222 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Sun, May 20, 2007, 22:18
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Problem is that we have ties the NBA doens't and vice versa. So it's not going to be exactly the same.
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223 | Great One Sustainer
ID: 053272014 Mon, May 21, 2007, 11:27
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I guess I'll propose it for next season when the time comes. I'm not really understanding why it would be complicated.
It's not like in football where we have the "real" team names... i.e. the Jets could have the Giants draft pick. I could see how that would be confusing. Plus they don't have a lottery anyway. "Goatlockers Kids" team (or whoever takes it over) gets Memphis' ping-pong balls and so on. I guess you are saying you'd like to know which manager has which team first. But in a normal year we shouldn't have too much turnover anyway, right? And they are pretty much getting the same pick regardless (outside of the chance that the top 3 get shuffled). And its not like the new guy can pick his team anyway. And then we'd have our lottery on ESPN? that would be awesome! Plus less work of setting up the simulator and all that junk.
for example... G24 Team = NBA Team Goatlocker = Memphis CCRider = Boston Frick = Milwaukee Blurred Crusaders = Phoenix via Atlanta Perm Dude = Seattle Great One = Portland Twarpy = Minnesota Slackjawed = Charlotte Tosh = Chicago via NY PeterN = Sacramento SkinneeJ = Atlanta via Indiana Guru = Philly Coldwater = New Orleans RSF = LA Clippers
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224 | Species Dude
ID: 07724916 Mon, May 21, 2007, 12:35
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Wow I forgot PHO got ATL's pick. How off the hook would THAT be to see a front line of Amare Stoudamire, Shawn Marion and Greg Oden......or Kevin Durant!
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225 | Great One Sustainer
ID: 053272014 Mon, May 21, 2007, 12:44
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I gotta say, I'm pulling for Boston here. They missed out on Duncan all those years back... if they miss out on #1 or #2, you can't help but feel bad for them.
Yeah, any of those guys (or that 7-foot Asian guy who's name escapes me) would be ridiculous on Phoenix.
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226 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Mon, May 21, 2007, 23:26
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Maybe I'm not communicating all the ties and stuff we have. Perhaps Guru would be better at explaining.
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227 | rockafellerskank
ID: 51281619 Mon, May 21, 2007, 23:39
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#224 Species: ATL pick is top-3 protected.
... now back to your regularly scheduled thread....
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228 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Tue, May 22, 2007, 00:58
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Indiana's pick is top 3 protected as well.
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229 | Species Dude
ID: 07724916 Tue, May 22, 2007, 01:16
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lol........the former G20 man slips in for a hit-and-run post!
Thanks though rfs....didn't know that. I guess they're hoping for no surprises then eh?
Only 9.5 more months until Spring Training!
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230 | Great One
ID: 201155199 Tue, May 22, 2007, 21:35
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I would have won the lottery! lol... thats incredible.
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231 | RecycledSpinalFluid Dude
ID: 204401122 Wed, May 23, 2007, 12:28
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beastiemiked, you check your Yahoo email lately? Need your address to send the plaque too. Maybe my email is getting stripped as spam or something. Send your address to RecycledSpinalFluid at Gmail.com. Thanks.
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232 | RecycledSpinalFluid Dude
ID: 204401122 Fri, May 25, 2007, 23:52
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bmd, got your email on Wednesday, unfortunately I've been off on training in Seattle and am just getting back. I'll get it shipped off tomorrow. Thanks.
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233 | RecycledSpinalFluid Dude
ID: 204401122 Sun, May 27, 2007, 21:40
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Mailed it off late day on Saturday. USPS 2 Day Priority (with 75$ insurance...). I imagine it will get there on Wednesday at best. Let us know when it does.
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234 | RecycledSpinalFluid Dude
ID: 204401122 Fri, Jun 01, 2007, 06:46
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Any word, bmd?
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235 | beastiemiked
ID: 3101646 Fri, Jun 01, 2007, 22:16
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Yeah, my parents said a "package" came on Wednesday. I'm out of town until late June so haven't seen it.
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236 | Great One Sustainer
ID: 053272014 Mon, Oct 01, 2007, 11:24
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So when is the lottery? :)
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237 | Perm Dude
ID: 5093716 Mon, Oct 01, 2007, 11:33
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LOL! I was just looking over my roster this morning. Last season I was chasing you about all season, GO.
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238 | Great One Sustainer
ID: 053272014 Mon, Oct 01, 2007, 12:04
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If we need any new blood, I know this guy at work, I promise he'd be active lol... :)
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239 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Mon, Oct 01, 2007, 13:56
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Tosh and I have been working on this for awhile. Tosh has worked hard on this and should get major props. I copied all the info from last year and made a SS. I asked Tosh to go over everything and asked him to head up re-invites. I haven't done much on the site yet but Tosh has some good news for us. All of that will be talked about in a new thread.
I know for sure that 2 or 3 managers will not be returning. There is a proposal for contraction from 20 to 18 teams as well. When we send out re-invites we will be able to know for sure how many managers we have and how many we need to recruit (once we figure out if that proposal passes). I posted in the RIFC QL thread to email me for anyone interested in joining. So we definitely would like nominations for replacements.
Re-invites should go out soon. If you haven't already gotten an email from Tosh asking you about last year, then it's safe to assume you will be getting asked back. I will start a new thread when re-invites are going out.
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240 | rockafellerskank
ID: 450122417 Mon, Oct 01, 2007, 17:11
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Hey fellow G20'ers. I'll toss this out....
My schedule will allow me to play some fantasy sports for the first time in a few years. If you have me back, I'd humbly accept any team that might be available. Send me an e-mail if you are interested. I promise to be competitive and active. :)
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241 | Species Dude
ID: 07724916 Mon, Oct 01, 2007, 17:32
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I'd buy active....
But competitive?!?
;-)
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242 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Mon, Oct 01, 2007, 17:42
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obviously, rfs would get first chance to come back. After all, he's only the co-creator of this league in the first place!
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243 | Species Dude
ID: 07724916 Mon, Oct 01, 2007, 17:44
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Might as well start my ad campaign:
I have 8 guys who are legitimate keepers: Mike Bibby Mo Williams Jason Richardson Larry Hughes Mike Miller Chris Wilcox Elton Brand Marcus Camby
I am definitely too guard-heavy and wouldn't mind packaging a couple solid guards for a big man. You have Bibby and Miller who are going into "Phoenix-style" uptempo offenses who could garner some interest.
Anyone short legit keeps should drop me a line!
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244 | Mike D Leader
ID: 041831612 Mon, Oct 01, 2007, 21:43
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I have too many already......I just can't remember who they are.
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245 | Frick Donor
ID: 3410101718 Mon, Oct 01, 2007, 22:52
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I'll probably be looking to do some dealing.
Anyone interested in Shaq?
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246 | RecycledSpinalFluid Dude
ID: 204401122 Mon, Oct 01, 2007, 22:52
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I sent Tosh a complete list since the one Ref had was missing people. I'll dig it up and post the final rosters later.
And after debating whether I was coming back or not, one look at my keepers reminded me I'll take the league by 20 points, so it was really no choice at all.
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247 | Tosh Leader
ID: 057721710 Mon, Oct 01, 2007, 23:16
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All teams are available via the nba.com fantasy game site. www.nba.com/fantasy
I know that most of us had some complaints about the nba.com format last season. They have done a lot of work on the issues, and seem to have a solid product. I think we should consider staying with them, rather than switching back to yahoo.com.
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248 | Perm Dude
ID: 5093716 Mon, Oct 01, 2007, 23:29
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Jannero Pargo Rafer Alston DeShawn Stevenson Raja Bell J.J. Redick Jason Terry Maurice Evans Rasual Butler Caron Butler Joe Smith Jeff Foster Andrew Bynum
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249 | Mike D Leader
ID: 041831612 Mon, Oct 01, 2007, 23:55
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Man, my team sucks. Wait, that's not my team, it's PDs! Whew. Now mine, well, we get 10 keepers, right?
Baron Davis - GSW [G] Shaun Livingston - LAC [G] Raymond Felton - CHA [G] Luol Deng - CHI [G, F] Matt Carroll - CHA [G, F] Ricky Davis - MIN [G, F] Vince Carter - NJN [G, F] Andrei Kirilenko - UTA [F] Chuck Hayes - HOU [F] Paul Millsap - UTA [F] Ike Diogu - IND [F, C] Mehmet Okur - UTA [C]
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250 | Ref Donor
ID: 539581218 Mon, Oct 01, 2007, 23:59
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2007 Pre-season thread
Invites have started to go out...
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