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Subject: Oct 31 - Nov 6 Trading Thread
Posted by: CJ
- Sustainer [499271021] Thu, Nov 01, 2007, 08:13
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| 115 | Masa
ID: 58105564
Tue, Nov 06, 2007, 06:04
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Anyone Armstrong -> S.Williams tomorrow
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| 116 | CJ
Sustainer
ID: 499271021
Tue, Nov 06, 2007, 08:37
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Keeping armstrong till I see a solid train....otherwise I find myself jumping off of every ship in the harbor and left with no trades. Can't losemoney on him or Douby so I am keeping them as they are safe on cash and anything they get me I am fine with.
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| 117 | Dilo
Donor
ID: 30912294
Tue, Nov 06, 2007, 08:38
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@115
Yea, I will give it a try!
Bass -> Williams for me
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| 118 | threespleens
Leader
ID: 00795541
Tue, Nov 06, 2007, 08:46
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bass going belly up last night did not impress me
holding him and armstrong for now
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| 119 | qwert
Donor
ID: 2910242819
Tue, Nov 06, 2007, 09:15
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not even waiting for one game out of williams? gutsy
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| 120 | Jeddi
ID: 91156614
Tue, Nov 06, 2007, 10:25
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Got Haywood, Maxiell, Garcia and Salmons from Kirilenko Aldridge Greene and Armstrong
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| 121 | The Bandwagon
Donor
ID: 479521116
Tue, Nov 06, 2007, 10:35
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Like many, I too started off with Hilton and Foyle, but I was going to be smarter than the rest and save myself a trade for the following week by starting off with Rudy Gay even though Gay only had 2 games the first week. I just knew he would average 28-30+ TSNP's, but he rewards me with 14 per game.
I also thought people would pass on Aldridge with his 3 games in week 1, and I knew he'd be a bargain at 6 mill. Wrong again, he rewards me with 26 per game, and $$ losses.
Jameer is a player I took at the last minute over Granger because at the time, Jameer was playing for a contract. Shortly after I had my roster set, and off to work, Jameer signs a new contract. He was a player I absolutely didn't want on my team unless he was playing for a contract. He rewards us with medicore play, and $$ losses as well.
Now I feel trapped with Jameer's good schedule. Do I continue to lose money for a good schedule and medicore play, or do I lateral, and gain money and probably more points?
Oh yea, I wasted a trade on Hilton to Priz for 2 games and 50K, and missed Priz to Wilkens on Sunday, 220K and 38.5 TSNP's later.
This is easily my worst start to a TSN season. Every pre-season I tell myself I'm going balanced this year, but always get tempted by the fruit of another sub 2 million player. lol
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| 122 | Dilo
Donor
ID: 30912294
Tue, Nov 06, 2007, 10:39
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@119
Not sure if it takes that much guts from me to go bass williams. Made about 200.000 from Bass (think thats what he loses in the next two days). Williams will play some, has a good schedule, costs the minimum and I have still 3 trades left.
If someone knows more about bass or williams he can still try to talk that trade out of me.
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| 123 | Jeddi
ID: 91156614
Tue, Nov 06, 2007, 10:45
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i think Nelson to Kyle Lowry will be a good trade in a day or two...
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| 124 | Dave R
SuperDude
ID: 3010361110
Tue, Nov 06, 2007, 11:12
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Rotoworld doesn't think to highly about Williams. Keep in mind Troy Murphy is do back shortly as well.
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| 125 | angryChair
ID: 100501014
Tue, Nov 06, 2007, 15:59
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Yes, that rotoworld report sounds grim.
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| 126 | Soulman
Donor
ID: 016105313
Tue, Nov 06, 2007, 16:20
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#123
Jeddi, you really sure you want to swap the clear-cut starting PG of an uptempo team with the best schedule for a piece of the Grizzlies' logjam at PG? Not the best plan from my point of view.
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| 127 | Rubalamp
ID: 367351922
Tue, Nov 06, 2007, 18:20
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As a Pacer fan, I think Williams will get the time to contribute. He
can get steals and blocks too, so he doesn't have to score to be
effective.
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| 128 | qwert
Donor
ID: 2910242819
Tue, Nov 06, 2007, 18:43
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I don't think the issue is his ability, but rather whether he will get enough PT. I at least need to see a game or two before I hop onto the next hilton armstrong.
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| 129 | qwert
Donor
ID: 2910242819
Tue, Nov 06, 2007, 19:43
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126:
different story now with nelson inactive tonight
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| 130 | Soulman
Donor
ID: 016105313
Tue, Nov 06, 2007, 20:13
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Perhaps. His status of being held out for "precautionary reasons" made me think it's a one-game thingy so I held. I'll re-evaluate tomorrow.
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| 131 | Pica
Sustainer
ID: 161141312
Tue, Nov 06, 2007, 22:17
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If Felton's injury is serious, McInnis will be another option
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| 132 | jedman
Dude
ID: 315192219
Tue, Nov 06, 2007, 22:19
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I'm about ready to blow up my whole team and start over. I'll have 7 trades tomorrow and I could conceivably use about 4 of them. Another great performance from Foyle, Delfino back to earth and I don't expect much from Douby. One or two of my studs just may need to go.
End of rant.
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| 133 | V-2
ID: 21731510
Tue, Nov 06, 2007, 22:30
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Ridnour getting minutes early in the 1st Q...that Wilkins kid will drop like a potato pretty soon (RV wise)
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| 134 | Rubalamp
ID: 367351922
Wed, Nov 07, 2007, 07:16
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ok...
I think after tonight, I am going to trade LeBron down to Deron
Williams (change Brewer to Forward), Bass to Maxiell, and Diawara
to Antoine Wright...also considering Nelson to Bonzi if we have
another DNP.
I currently have 5 trades, and this would definitely be one of those
"Can I Right the Ship NOW" moments...
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| 135 | qwert
Donor
ID: 2910242819
Wed, Nov 07, 2007, 08:07
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trading into Deron Williams on a short schedule situation doesn't seem the way to right the ship to me.
I don't love the other moves either. Bonzi Wells and Maxiell, it seems you are just evaluating based on their last game, because before that they were nothing special.
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| 136 | Soulman
Donor
ID: 016105313
Wed, Nov 07, 2007, 08:38
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#134
Agree with qwert. Trading into schedules such as DET, HOU or UTA doesn't feel like righting the ship. You'll find yourself in need of righting the ship again by the weekend of 17/18 Nov. Only problem then is that none of us has the trades to right the ship every week... ;)
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| 137 | ki @ work
ID: 2836246
Wed, Nov 07, 2007, 09:10
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Rubalump,
Lebron has 4 games in the next 6 days... I think you will kick yourself if you miss out on those points this week... I would suggest you figure out your "Right the Ship" plan for 11/13, not today!
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| 138 | Headless Gunners
ID: 12723167
Wed, Nov 07, 2007, 10:15
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Utah's Sked not that bad - 8 games next 13 days
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| 139 | qwert
Donor
ID: 2910242819
Wed, Nov 07, 2007, 10:49
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not saying utah's schedule is bad, but rather that it is short in terms of using trades to try to right the ship.
realistically, their schedule is only good for a couple days longer than cleveland's.
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| 140 | Rubalamp
ID: 367351922
Wed, Nov 07, 2007, 13:02
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I am looking at other options...But it looks like it will only further
polarize my team...
Wells, Wright, and Maxiel seem like the best options...I may be able
to get those three without losing leBron...It will be tight, and
trading Nelson, Diawara, Bass to those three will be close money
wise...
I need to check if I can swing it today even, because it may be so
close, that it won't work tomorrow...
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| 141 | qwert
Donor
ID: 2910242819
Wed, Nov 07, 2007, 13:21
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why do you see Wells as such a good option? as many single digits as 30+ and a pretty bad schedule.
i have maxiell and don't even see him as some kind of must have.
trades made in haste just lead to making more trades down the road.
I would start at square one and decide who HAS to go, which likely excludes Nelson, who sounds like he'll play tonight.
Anyway, just my opinion. I will now leave you to trade in peace.
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| 142 | ki @ work
ID: 2836246
Wed, Nov 07, 2007, 14:45
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sage advice qwert,
Yesterday I though going Armstrong to Maxiell today looked like a pretty sure move... but today after a mere mediocre game from Hilton; I think I'm opting to keep the trade!
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| 143 | angryChair
ID: 100501014
Wed, Nov 07, 2007, 15:13
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Will Harrison get minutes with Diogu out?
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| 145 | Skip To My Lou
ID: 538101711
Wed, Nov 07, 2007, 15:40
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Re: 143 ... this is my question. With Ike out, does that meaningfully enhance Harrison's value or does Shawne Williams become even more attractive?
I thought the Williams movers were a bit premature, but if Ike's injury opens up minutes for him, I think he could produce.
Does this change anyone else's opinion of Williams/Harrison/Indiana minutes?
One more caveat: Troy Murphy is also set to return.
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| 146 | qwert
Donor
ID: 2910242819
Wed, Nov 07, 2007, 15:40
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nope...wait and see how the minutes pan out tonight, at the very least.
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| 147 | Soulman
Donor
ID: 016105313
Wed, Nov 07, 2007, 15:40
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Absolutely agree with everything that qwert says in #141. Deciding on who HAS to go is way. And I also think that neither Nelson nor Armstrong do.
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| 148 | Soulman
Donor
ID: 016105313
Wed, Nov 07, 2007, 15:44
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#145
Again exactly what qwert says. Let's wait at least until after tonight before committing to any of the cheap Pacers.
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| 149 | qwert
Donor
ID: 2910242819
Wed, Nov 07, 2007, 16:04
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thanks for validating my rants Soulman.
now let's see if I can take my own advice and bank some trades.
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| 150 | V-2
ID: 21731510
Wed, Nov 07, 2007, 16:17
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Can McInnis be a solid contributor now that Felton's out?
I'm thinking of moving Nelson to McInnis or Webster. Any suggestions?
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| 151 | deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Wed, Nov 07, 2007, 16:22
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Felton doesnt sound like he will be out for long V2.
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| 152 | Blooki
Sustainer
ID: 449292712
Wed, Nov 07, 2007, 16:24
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Am I the only one not feeling the Shawne Williams love?
What am I missing here guys?
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| 153 | deejay
Sustainer
ID: 501182710
Wed, Nov 07, 2007, 16:26
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No Blooki you're not alone.
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| 154 | Soulman
Donor
ID: 016105313
Wed, Nov 07, 2007, 16:36
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You're definitely not, Blooki.
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| 155 | Rubalamp
ID: 367351922
Wed, Nov 07, 2007, 17:19
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Bass seems like a must go and so Diawara...but to do that with
any meaningful improvement, means downgrading somewhere,
Nelson, Lebron, Chris Paul, Boozer, or Howard are the only
options. Nelson is the one that seems easiest to move.
Maxiel and Wright look like must haves to me...they seem to be
getting real minutes, being productive, without depending on
injuries. With the money left I could get Webster, Azubuike,
Delfino, or Telfair...I am waiting to see what happens tonight,
but tomorrow I want both Maxiel and Wright...
I feel good about williams...
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| 156 | qwert
Donor
ID: 2910242819
Wed, Nov 07, 2007, 17:57
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alright...i think you probably used similar logic to convince yourself to pick up Bass and Diawara, but I've given my opinion, so chaque un son gout.
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| 157 | skill
Donor
ID: 030105013
Wed, Nov 07, 2007, 18:02
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What do you think, will Kyle Lowry get out of gravity tonight?
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| 158 | Rubalamp
ID: 367351922
Wed, Nov 07, 2007, 18:39
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Thanks Qwert
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| 159 | angryChair
ID: 100501014
Wed, Nov 07, 2007, 18:46
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Rub writes: Maxiel and Wright look like must
haves to me
Must haves! Seriosly?
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| 160 | Soulman
Donor
ID: 016105313
Wed, Nov 07, 2007, 18:52
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I'd say there are at max 3 players who qualify as must-haves at this point of the season. But neither of them is named Maxiell or Wright.
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| 161 | jedman
Dude
ID: 315192219
Wed, Nov 07, 2007, 19:07
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After tonight's games I'm thinking
Kiri>Wright
Foyle>Haywood
I'll miss tonight's money, but I don't want to give up two games, even if one is from Foyle. That leaves me with Douby, but he showed a little life last night and Paul,Lebron, and Howard have been just too solid to get rid of.
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| 162 | CJ
Sustainer
ID: 499271021
Wed, Nov 07, 2007, 21:37
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158 Rubalamp
Hey brother..unlike most...I am with you with having no problem getting Utah players and holding for two weeks. Also New Orleans players are easy for me to have...although Paul has been with me.
I have A wright already and at Center...I drafted Ming and sold him after last nights game and on some teams I went with Howard and Haywood
I have drafted some players I am not proud of but at 500k I am not moving them... Douby, Hilton. Other roster spots that I am okay with are Gibson, and Brewer.
Here is one of my teams:
Gibson, Daniel 31 $3.36M
G Williams, Deron 0 $8.82M
G Douby, Quincy 24.5 $.50M
G Paul, Chris 65.5 $9.73M
F Brewer, Ronnie 0 $1.62M
F Boozer, Carlos 0 $9.51M
F Armstrong, Hilton 12 $.50M
F Wright, Antoine 34 $2.14M
C Haywood, Brendan 0 $4.08M
C Howard, Dwight 52.5 $10.16M
Keep in mind you DO NOT HAVE TO sell. If you can not decide then Hold brother till somethign good comes to you. By the way I solf Nelson on one team yesterday and now I see he is playing.
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| 163 | Gescom
Leader
ID: 520461315
Thu, Nov 08, 2007, 04:15
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Definitevely no love for Shawne Williams but like my Bogans and Wright more and more everyday.
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| 164 | Rubalamp
ID: 367351922
Thu, Nov 08, 2007, 07:31
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15 points out the gate at 500K...what do you guys expect from
these guys? He already outscored Armstrong for the season, right?
I only made 2 trades...See what Bass does tonight. have 2 mil left
to upgrade...and I kept Lebron.
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| 165 | Captain @ work
ID: 28250320
Thu, Nov 08, 2007, 22:03
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Do you think that Tyrus Thomas is eating up Deng's stats this year a bit? He is underperforming a fair bit for what I thought he was worth and I'm wondering whether it's worth persisting with him this year at all.
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