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Subject: Nov 7th- Nov 13th Trades
Posted by: The Bandwagon
- Donor [479521116] Fri, Nov 09, 2007, 11:40
We need some life around here. You guys are 3 days late on the thread ; )
I am happy this morning so far. I avoided Haywood on my "On-time" teams despite all the gains, and took Darko instead. After one game the points are in my favor, but the $ isn't. I felt I had to try something different, and take some early chances to hopefully make up for my horrible start.
Anyway I've got the Mempho cheap connection Gay/Darko, and avoided the Turks, Dunleavy's and the Haywoods. We'll see how it shakes out.
I still have Aldridge and AK-47, I guess I'll hold until there is a clear way out. |
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| 125 | Soulman
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Mon, Nov 12, 2007, 17:19
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Same here, no Lakers for me right now.
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| 126 | Gescom
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Mon, Nov 12, 2007, 17:27
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I really miss RSF's ownership numbers. No way to see if a player is about to escape gravity or not.
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| 127 | Usual Suspects
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Mon, Nov 12, 2007, 17:36
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Anyone considering Wright with the latest info on Vince? Wright is almost assured a start tonight and with Carter's track record, who knows how long he may be out for. At 2.29 and G/F flex, I can see him making a lot of money out of the Bogans/Webster/Brewer sellers. Thoughts?
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| 128 | Gescom
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Mon, Nov 12, 2007, 17:45
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Wright was already a decent option with RJ and VC in. Without one of them, he's even more interesting.
Disclaimer: he's been on my teams since 11/03.
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| 129 | Soulman
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Mon, Nov 12, 2007, 18:03
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Wright is intriguing for sure but who knows how long VC will be out. I think I read one report saying it *could* be one game only. Anyway, my fear is a quick price gain and an ever quicker selloff to conserve it, so I think I have to force myself to resist temptation this time.
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| 130 | Usual Suspects
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Mon, Nov 12, 2007, 18:15
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I see your point SOulman, however, as Gescom pointed out, he was a solid option even when VC was healthy...I have an hour to decide but leaning to
Haywood & Bogans - Harrington & Wright.
How much do you think Haywood and Bogans lose this week, because I would love to hold?
Do you think Haywood will stop losing money on Wednesday because as of then his schedule is the best in the league and I'm thinking of holding.
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| 131 | deejay
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Mon, Nov 12, 2007, 18:22
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low trading could be a big hit tonight.
haywood>harrington 3x for me.
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| 132 | Senator Urine
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Mon, Nov 12, 2007, 18:22
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I'm with you Soulman on Wright.
I'm planning on picking up Harrington, and possibly Baron also. I'm still debating whether I should get Kobe or Baron, or even both somehow but Baron late.
The thing I don't like about it is that no matter what the only way I can get Harrington is by selling either Aldridge or Kirilenko. If this were February I wouldn't make this move 99 out of 100 times, but it's feeling necessary this early and already being so behind in RV. Not only that, but in order to maximize the gains (Harrington could easily be up around 400k in three days) I'd have to sacrifice a game 3 Aldridge games for 2 Harrington's.
There's no good way to swing it I think.
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| 133 | Soulman
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Mon, Nov 12, 2007, 18:29
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#130
Yeah, I admit that if I had Bogans, my temptation for Wright would be even greater. Luckily, I only have Haywood to ditch and his replacement clearly is Harrington so I don't have room for Wright anyway.
As for the losses, I see Haywood drop a combined -300k today, tomorrow and on Wednesday (when the already tradeless managers have 4 new to blow). After that the bleeding will stop provided he performs OK on Wednesday. Another 'Haywood'- performance like we are used to from previous seasons and the exodus will continue.
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| 134 | Soulman
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Mon, Nov 12, 2007, 18:35
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Senator, what about moving Iverson>Harrington tomorrow and then getting Baron from AK later? Sure you miss out on some initial gains but at least you're not sacrificing games.
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| 135 | Senator Urine
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Mon, Nov 12, 2007, 19:03
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Yeah I think I'm going to do something like that - view it as Baron games instead of Harrington games but still move from Aldridge.
I'll grab either Baron or Harrington tomorrow from Iverson (whichever one I think will make more money, as of now probably Harrington) and then move Aldridge for the other, and in theory take "2 Baron games + a lot of money over 3 Aldridge games". Or I could wait if I want to play it conservatively.
The only downside is no Kobe. That's never fun, but I don't think I can get him without giving up Kirilenko or passing on Harrington, without the games lost total being too much.
I think I'm going to sacrifice Maxiell's Tuesday game. Given the more attractive options (who I'm probably not taking today, I'm going to go for a sleeper instead), Maxiell could lose a lot tonight and then more tomorrow too. This early in the season and after my rough start, I think I have to make the sacrifice, given I've officially declared Maxiell as poop.
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| 136 | deejay
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Mon, Nov 12, 2007, 19:10
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Maxiell is going today for me, he sucks.
Leaning towards Udrih...
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| 137 | deejay
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Mon, Nov 12, 2007, 19:14
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other possibility is a trip to the Moon.
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| 138 | Soulman
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Mon, Nov 12, 2007, 19:18
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Which like a real trip to the moon could either give you glory or nausea... ;)
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| 139 | deejay
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Mon, Nov 12, 2007, 19:21
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its a cheap trip and i cant lose any money :)
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| 140 | C. Bird
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Mon, Nov 12, 2007, 19:24
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I moved Webster for Wright yesterday. Wright was doing fine with VC in the lineup and VC's track record makes me think he will be out a while.
I have also been against moving Haywood until today. Losing 50K on a day he plays coupled with a light trading day has convinced me to move him. I also think that $$ is going to play a bigger roll this year than it has in years past due to the way TSN priced players.
I am moving Haywood > Harrington x 5
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| 142 | Soulman
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Mon, Nov 12, 2007, 19:27
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True that, deejay. Have a good trip and take some photos when you're up there! :)
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| 143 | qwert
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Mon, Nov 12, 2007, 19:28
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Moon is the true risk/reward player. His athleticism and defence is such that he will likely perform when he gets playing time, in the way of rebounds, blocks and steals...but the depth of toronto and glut of swingmen that should be ahead of him on the depth chart means that he could DNP-CD you in a heart beat.
I think udrih is safer...i THINK
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| 144 | deejay
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Mon, Nov 12, 2007, 19:28
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not sure if i am going heh soulman. :)
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| 145 | deejay
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Mon, Nov 12, 2007, 19:30
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143
toronto has the better sked tho, and if udrih doesnt pan out, then it will be a short stay.
but still seem to prefer udrih.
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| 146 | reebbertxx2001
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Mon, Nov 12, 2007, 19:33
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The -190k is going to hurt tonight on Haywood, but I'm going to hold. He is the best C option in his price range and can be held until 12/02. I picked up Harrington from other players(Maxiel/Webster) so that should at least dampen the rv hit.
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| 147 | Pica
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Mon, Nov 12, 2007, 20:56
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I'm starting to shaken a bit with all the Haywood talks. My RV is already horrible and can't stand another massive hit. Conventional wisdom says the return of Jackson will likely push Azubuike back to the bench but Nelson as we all know is anything but conventional.
2 hours to make up my mind.
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| 148 | qwert
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Mon, Nov 12, 2007, 21:07
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I've already been shaken into submission.
I think it's crazy, but I traded Haywood...with almost two hours to undo. Still have 400K in profits to protect...even after the last couple days of losses.
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| 149 | Pica
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Mon, Nov 12, 2007, 21:16
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who did you get for Haywood qwert? Harrington or Bynum?
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| 150 | The Bandwagon
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Mon, Nov 12, 2007, 21:22
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I think I'm taking that trip to the moon after Martells game tomorrow if Beno does well tonight.
Sam Mitchell loves defense, Moon is full of it, and Kapono/Juan Dixon lack it. Everything I've read on Moon is positive, and I just watched some highlights. The kid looks good, and he tries to pattern his game after Scottie Pippen. I think he gets real minutes from here on out for the Raps.
Without taking Moon, my options from Aldridge/Martell look awful. By taking Moon from Martell, Aldridge can turn into Kobe or Baron.
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| 151 | qwert
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Mon, Nov 12, 2007, 21:23
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Harrington.
Not sure his production will be any better than Haywood's, but he'll get more minutes than Bynum and has the best schedule of the three.
...like I'll actually hold him for 4 weeks
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| 152 | Pica
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Mon, Nov 12, 2007, 21:26
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Man, looks like everyone is bailing on Haywood. I'm guessing a +350k swing from Haywood to Bynum or Harrington tonight.
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| 153 | Headless Gunners
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Mon, Nov 12, 2007, 22:17
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I was hangin' on to Haywood but you've all scared me off, sold x3
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| 154 | Rubalamp
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Mon, Nov 12, 2007, 22:20
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why is everyone selling Haywood????
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| 155 | jedman
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Mon, Nov 12, 2007, 22:22
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I also was going to hold Haywood, but it seems crazy now as we try to build RV. I'm 80k short of getting Harrington from Webster and don't think moving Granger just to hold Haywood makes any sense. Those are my options short of moving Howard, which I don't plan on doing.
Lebron>Kobe tomorrow and hope Webster can do a little better and avoid the selling.
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| 156 | Rubalamp
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Mon, Nov 12, 2007, 22:27
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I think I am stuck with him...everyone sells tonight. I might as well
hold him for the duration of his schedule and hope he kicks butt to
make you lemmings pay...;-)
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| 157 | qwert
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Mon, Nov 12, 2007, 23:10
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Haywood down 180...Bynum up 170, Harrington up 150.
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| 158 | Rubalamp
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Mon, Nov 12, 2007, 23:54
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Yep...Lot of panic sellers I think...I thought I was bad.
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| 159 | qwert
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Tue, Nov 13, 2007, 00:02
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not sure it was all panic sellers. panic sellers got the ball rolling on saturday and sunday, but i think most people posting on this thread just weren't willing to take the $ hit.
when there are big profits to lose, patience at the beginning of the game has to be used carefully. it can be just as detrimental as a quick trigger.
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| 160 | Pica
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Tue, Nov 13, 2007, 00:55
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Thanks AI for the nice goodbye gift. Going to package with Gibson for a combination of GS and Memphis guys.
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| 161 | JMISA
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Tue, Nov 13, 2007, 03:35
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160:
the only MEM player worth taking is rusy gay IMO and with the GS guy i would jus pick harrington as a solid pick .... i'd pass on Kelinzu Aifidfiasdhfiu since stephen jackson is comin back and likely to take his spot and i feel like baron davis is too whack to lock 10 million into for that long .. there are so many other options if your going to trade tommorrow ... like kobe, d howard if you don't have him for some reason or even KG if you can afford him
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| 162 | Pica
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Tue, Nov 13, 2007, 04:39
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161: Thanks for the tip...
I'm deciding on the following combo:
A. Wright Kobe
B. Gay Baron
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| 163 | Florian
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Tue, Nov 13, 2007, 09:57
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Will be trading Iverson today. Don't have enough money to upgrade to Kobe. My plan was to trade to Baron Davis, but considering he always seems to get hurt I am considering buying Rudy Gay (or Bynum) instead and using the money to upgrade someone else next week (not sure whom).
Today's Contra Costa Time reports:
Notes: Davis did not practice for a third consecutive day, working with strength and conditioning coach John Murray instead. Nelson revealed that Davis had been suffering from swelling in his left knee after taking a hard fall during Thursday's loss to the Mavericks. "If it hadn't have been for these five days off, I don't think he could have played probably until maybe (Tuesday) anyway," Nelson said, who hopes Davis can practice today. Team spokesmen had said previously that Davis was being held out to afford him some rest after playing all but four seconds Thursday. After Nelson's comment, athletic trainer Tom Abdenour said through a spokesman that Davis suffered a contusion to his knee and that the swelling was "nothing out of the ordinary." Davis said that he would be available to play 48 minutes, if necessary, on Wednesday.
I'd be happy to consider any advice.
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| 164 | Pica
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Tue, Nov 13, 2007, 10:16
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I'm in the same situation as well, and leaning towards the Rudy Gay, Baron Davis combo, as I think both would gain more money than Kobe and Wright. In the above quote "Davis said that he would be available to play 48 minutes", so I'm taking it on face value and assume he'll play and hold my breath.
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| 165 | ki @ work
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Tue, Nov 13, 2007, 11:11
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I think I'm making the money moves today out of Lebron and Gibson... I think they are decent points holds next week but this weeks 2 games in 7 days is going to kill them money wise! I can do Kobe and get to pick from another sub $5.0M guy.... Since the Harrington (GS) and Gay (Mem) money trains have already left the station; and I added Troy Murphy yesterday; I think I'm leaning toward Haslem today.. wish me luck!
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| 166 | ki @ work
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Tue, Nov 13, 2007, 11:22
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I think Wright is going to be very good with Carter out.... I would go Kobe/Wright over Baron/$5M(pick-em?)!
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| 167 | Rendle
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Tue, Nov 13, 2007, 14:01
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I had some trades lying around and some guys who needed to go so I blew my team up:
Gibson -> Gay
Boozer -> Shawne Williams
Maxiell -> Murphy
Ilgauskas -> Harrington
Then I looked and realized I had some extra cash I didn't want to sit on so, for Blooki, I went Armstrong -> Garnett
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| 168 | deejay
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Tue, Nov 13, 2007, 14:06
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warning:
some so called managers are gonna sell brewer today.
bah.
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| 169 | Blooki
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Tue, Nov 13, 2007, 14:44
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Taking a page from Rendle's playbook.
Brewer => Garnett x15
Best of luck to the holders.
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| 170 | deejay
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Tue, Nov 13, 2007, 14:49
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something else, I found this today...
At this minute Stephon was not at practice and his whereabouts are unknown. He went AWOL and will be fined.
Says the organization is no longer staying behind him.
Isiah says they want him on the team and he'll be fined.
Marbury is probably not starting and may not even be at the game. Says if Marbury doesn't start then he might cause a lot of problems.
IT also said Curry might not start based on performance.
Randolph will not be at the game.
Mardy Collins will start at PG tonight.
Oh my Knicks....
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| 171 | jedman
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Tue, Nov 13, 2007, 16:35
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70K short of going Webster>Gay, should have thought about doing that last night.
Lebron>Kobe has been done. I suppose I could get Baron instead of Kobe, but I don't trust his health with the minutes Nellie has been playing him. I guess I'll just stick it out with Webster for now. Granger>Gay seems lateral.
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| 172 | JMISA
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Tue, Nov 13, 2007, 23:13
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can i ask why noone has given consideration for theo ratliff 26+ pts/gm 1.9m and greg bucner 900k (21pt/gm) they hava decent schedule if u pick it up tommorrow
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| 173 | qwert
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Tue, Nov 13, 2007, 23:28
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given big time consideration
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| 174 | Rubalamp
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Wed, Nov 14, 2007, 00:11
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I have been watching Buckner...but I am wondering why people are
selling out of Brewer.
I am thinking my purchase of David Waste was a bad move. May
spread his money out or up...I don't know. Could get Buckner for
Bass if I move Brewer to Forward.
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| 175 | JMISA
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Wed, Nov 14, 2007, 00:28
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idk bout buckner ... espn.com has him as a 3rd stringer but theo ratliff seems prety solid and his pts/cost ratio is unmatched except for brewer im almost positive of goin webster > ratliff tommorrow even if i lose a game this week i jus wish more people would know about it so i can make that $$$$
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